tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post1322345490311708372..comments2024-03-26T13:03:49.523-07:00Comments on justice4nifong: Dr. Christena L. Roberts – the newest addition of conspirators against MangumNifong Supporterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comBlogger323125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-37095053504068874842012-12-28T09:41:27.680-08:002012-12-28T09:41:27.680-08:00Any update on the Bar's communication with you...Any update on the Bar's communication with you and your brilliant response?<br /><br /><br />As a matter of fact, I just concluded my response, and the court documents should be posted here within 48 hours.<br /><br />December 16, 2012 12:40 PM<br /><br />Well? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-3276334297153280902012-12-27T08:49:02.098-08:002012-12-27T08:49:02.098-08:00KENHYDERAL:
"Many anonymous posters,here, ju...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Many anonymous posters,here, jumped to the defence of Prof. Johnson when Dr. Harr criticized him. When I made an effort to defend Dr.Harr, against your sarcasm, you call me a troll and a hypocrite. Correct,yes??"<br /><br />SIDNEY HARR attacking KC Johnson is like a canoe attacking the Yamato.<br /><br />In any event, SIDNEY did not attack Professor Johnson. He published rather pitiful attempts to have Professor Johnson notice him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-16068681740471812542012-12-27T08:11:19.914-08:002012-12-27T08:11:19.914-08:00Many anonymous posters,here, jumped to the defence...Many anonymous posters,here, jumped to the defence of Prof. Johnson when Dr. Harr criticized him. When I made an effort to defend Dr.Harr, against your sarcasm, you call me a troll and a hypocrite. Correct,yes?? kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-78849489696777479482012-12-26T22:23:33.518-08:002012-12-26T22:23:33.518-08:00KENHYDERAL,
You know very well what I'm talkin...KENHYDERAL,<br />You know very well what I'm talking about. You called me cruel. etc. because I poked fun at Sidney. Yet you find his attempted mockery of KC Johnson perfectly acceptable. I can only assume you're either a troll or a hypocrite -- perhaps both.guiowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11904401455585682885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-16557930469021618792012-12-26T09:55:30.541-08:002012-12-26T09:55:30.541-08:00KENHYDERAL:
Before presuming anyone guilty of a c...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />Before presuming anyone guilty of a crime, you have to establish a crime took place. You have not even remotely come close to establishing that Crystal was raped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-17406443122847402582012-12-26T08:39:46.310-08:002012-12-26T08:39:46.310-08:00Guiowen said: "Remember, also, that you criti...Guiowen said: "Remember, also, that you criticized me -- quite harshly I might add -- for what, done by your principal, you found perfectly acceptable. Would you care to comment on that?<br />Do you feel that "bad things done by my friends are not bad because my friends are so good"?" ......... I'm not sure what you are referring to here? Can you quote my criticism?kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-48788382599157367012012-12-26T04:32:19.198-08:002012-12-26T04:32:19.198-08:00KENHYDERAL:
"Seligman and Finnerty has no ri...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Seligman and Finnerty has no risk as they quickly proved they had been mis-identified."<br /><br />You lie. In spite of irrefutable evidence of their innocence, corrupt DA NIFONF was determined to prosecute and convict them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-9545010667828718062012-12-26T04:29:59.928-08:002012-12-26T04:29:59.928-08:00KENHYDERAL:
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Seligman and Finnerty has...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"<br /><br /> Seligman and Finnerty has no risk as they quickly proved they had been mis-identified. They were not even eye witnesses to the crime. When they were charged they needed to hire Lawyers anyway. Non-involved Players, who were witnesses, could only, possibly, be charged with failing to come forward, an easy charge to defend against simply by insisting you saw nothing. Only the conscience of a witness or of a perpetrator will cause this to happen."<br /><br />There were no witnesses. There were no perpetrators. There was no crime.<br /><br />How about you prove a crime happened before you presume guilt on the part of anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-49354043220589678862012-12-25T22:26:21.324-08:002012-12-25T22:26:21.324-08:00Kenhyderal,
Remember, also, that you criticized me...Kenhyderal,<br />Remember, also, that you criticized me -- quite harshly I might add -- for what, done by your principal, you found perfectly acceptable. Would you care to comment on that?<br />Do you feel that "bad things done by my friends are not bad because my friends are so good"?guiowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11904401455585682885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-13512366075961484512012-12-25T22:24:33.311-08:002012-12-25T22:24:33.311-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.guiowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11904401455585682885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-6212755968285006652012-12-25T21:30:33.151-08:002012-12-25T21:30:33.151-08:00Seligman and Finnerty has no risk as they quickly ...Seligman and Finnerty has no risk as they quickly proved they had been mis-identified. They were not even eye witnesses to the crime. When they were charged they needed to hire Lawyers anyway. Non-involved Players, who were witnesses, could only, possibly, be charged with failing to come forward, an easy charge to defend against simply by insisting you saw nothing. Only the conscience of a witness or of a perpetrator will cause this to happen. kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-43779767332580011162012-12-25T06:29:36.829-08:002012-12-25T06:29:36.829-08:00Kenny,
Thanks again for confirming my 11:32am pos...Kenny,<br /><br />Thanks again for confirming my 11:32am post. You refrain from engaging in meaningful debate.<br /><br />While you may "respond" to posts directed to you, you seldom provide reasoned answers. Your six-year "wall of silence" in which dozens of players, including the three defendants, covered up for mystery rapists is grounded entirely in innuendo. Only an absolute moron could believe that the defendants would spend millions of dollars on their defense, have their names dragged through the mud in the national media and risk long prison terms to cover up crimes committed by others.<br /><br />When questioned, you refuse to answer, responding that people sometimes don't act in their own interest.<br /><br />You are a troll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-42594791177878748712012-12-25T04:49:02.924-08:002012-12-25T04:49:02.924-08:00KENHYDERAL:
You have made it obvious again how p-...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />You have made it obvious again how p---ed off you are at men who are better off and more accomplished than you are.<br /><br />Now, show again you can provide no evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, that Crystal was raped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-46039725352695734422012-12-25T04:46:30.972-08:002012-12-25T04:46:30.972-08:00KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous said: "You seldo...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Anonymous said: "You seldom answers questions directed to you. If you were willing to engage in meaningful debate and to make an honest attempt to convince others, the conclusion would be difficult".... You are wrong, I answer every post directed at me. You just don't like the answers I give because they suggest alternate conclusions to the conventional wisdom, that's been skillfully propagated by supporters of the accused."<br /><br />You have never responded to challenges to provide proof that Crysta was raped. You have always dodged. What you cal "alternate conclusions to the conventional wisdom" is your unreasonable presumption of guilt by ignoring the overwhelming evidence of innocence. The only propaganda propagated in the case was the propaganda propagated by those who, like you, unreasonably presumed guilt on the part of the innocent men Crystal falsely accused. Now again I challenge you, provide proof, not propaganda, that Crystal was raped.<br /><br />"Now that the civil suits have "gone down the toilet" perhaps there will be less peer pressure to keep the wall of silence and blogs like The Duke LaCrosse Liestoppers alive."<br /><br />I say again, don't count on it. There was no wall of silence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-39166746500757960282012-12-24T21:04:28.872-08:002012-12-24T21:04:28.872-08:00Anonymous said: "You seldom answers questions...Anonymous said: "You seldom answers questions directed to you. If you were willing to engage in meaningful debate and to make an honest attempt to convince others, the conclusion would be difficult".... You are wrong, I answer every post directed at me. You just don't like the answers I give because they suggest alternate conclusions to the conventional wisdom, that's been skillfully propagated by supporters of the accused. Now that the civil suits have "gone down the toilet" perhaps there will be less peer pressure to keep the wall of silence and blogs like The Duke LaCrosse Liestoppers alive. kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-17202098620167411352012-12-24T18:16:10.336-08:002012-12-24T18:16:10.336-08:00Kenny complains: Not much logic here.
We ignore t...Kenny complains: <i>Not much logic here.</i><br /><br />We ignore the chanter and racist. They are obvious trolls. <br /><br />You only pretend to make substantive comments. <br /><br />For example, you ignored the substance of my 11:32am comment. <br /> <br />You seldom answers questions directed to you. If you were willing to engage in meaningful debate and to make an honest attempt to convince others, the conclusion would be difficult. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-50831067384901726552012-12-24T16:56:58.519-08:002012-12-24T16:56:58.519-08:00KENHYDERAL:
"Lance is wrong. Every post I...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Lance is wrong. Every post I've ever made on this blog was a response to what another person had posted. Have you noticed the chanters and the racists don't elicit any displeasure from him but someone who, in the main, agrees with Dr.Harr's views has got to be a troll. Not much logic here."<br /><br />Where's the logic of presuming innocent men guilty of a crime when there is no evidence that said crime ever happened?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-41515300634124338372012-12-24T15:42:28.844-08:002012-12-24T15:42:28.844-08:00Lance is wrong. Every post I've ever made on t...Lance is wrong. Every post I've ever made on this blog was a response to what another person had posted. Have you noticed the chanters and the racists don't elicit any displeasure from him but someone who, in the main, agrees with Dr.Harr's views has got to be a troll. Not much logic here.kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-13043950543993095382012-12-24T11:44:20.562-08:002012-12-24T11:44:20.562-08:00". I am amazed, though, that whenever I expre...<i><b>". I am amazed, though, that whenever I express an opinion that doesn't conform to the conventional wisdom about the Duke LaCrosse case I get accused of being a troll.</b></i><br /><br />Kenhyderal - I consider you a troll because you repeatedly post<br />off-topic messages to this blog, with the primary intent of disrupting normal on-topic discussion.<br /><br />I stopped counting your posts at 20, but of the 20 I DID count, precisely 1 of them (the very first one) had anything to do with the substance of Dr. Harr's blog entry.<br /><br />The rest -- trolling. Unfortunately, I and many others get caught up in it. <br /><br />In the past, I stated that I will no longer respond to you, but here I am, guilty of following you down rabbit holes again. <br /><br />No longer. This will be my last response to you. Enjoy your trolling at someone else's expense.<br /><br />To Sid and all J4N readers, Merry Christmas.Lance The Internnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-24111915281031603112012-12-24T10:12:39.384-08:002012-12-24T10:12:39.384-08:00KENHYDERAL:
With regard to Dr. Julie Manly's ...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />With regard to Dr. Julie Manly's finding of a whitish fluid in Crystal's genital tract:<br /><br />As you say, she did not do a definitive test to prove the fluid was semen. Ergo, medicolegally, the finding of whitish fluid was evidence of nothing, circumstantial or otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-62268818681762047742012-12-24T10:04:00.462-08:002012-12-24T10:04:00.462-08:00KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 5:25 said: "It...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Anonymous @ 5:25 said: "It is commonly used as a boastful claim of dominance over the intended listener".......... I was not aware of this expression but it brings to mind the observation of Theophrastus; " I would define boastfulness to be the pretension to good which the boaster does not possess"<br /><br />Theophrastus describes you and SIDNEY exactly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-71928999942113888982012-12-24T10:01:55.754-08:002012-12-24T10:01:55.754-08:00KENHYDERAL:
@ Anonymous @ 11:32 AM: I find it tot...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />@ Anonymous @ 11:32 AM: I find it totally naieve that so many believe the propaganda they have been fed that the Duke LaCrosse spring break party was a completely benign affair attended by young gentlemen whose innocent life was high-jacked by a scheming femme fatale bent on extortion."<br /><br />People do not believe in any propaganda. The truth is that Crystal lied about being raped. The only propaganda that was spread was spread by DA NIFONG, beginning on March 27, 2006 when he announced that a crime had happened, that members of the Lacrosse team had been the perpetrators, and that it had been racially motivated.<br /><br />"The person who drove Crystal there gave evidence that she was not impaired when he dropped her off."<br /><br />Two party attendees gave evidence that Crystal was impaired when she arrived at the party. Crystal admitted taking Flexeril on top of drinking 44 ounces of beer. The preponderance of the evidence is that Crystal was already impaired when she arrived at the party.<br /><br />"A jury needed to resolve the conflicting claim that she arrived impaired."<br /><br />No it didn't, once the forensic testing of the rape kit confirmed she had not been raped.<br /><br />"Was her noted impairment a delayed reaction to an earlier ingested intoxicant or was one involuntarily ingested after her arrival and if so what was it's purpose."<br /><br />She got impaired before she ever arrived at the Lacrosse party.<br /><br />"The DNA extracted from sperm found on Crystal's person needed to be identified and that required confirming the sexual history she provided."<br /><br />Why did DA NIFONG conceal the finding that the only DNA found on Crystal did not match any member of the Lacrosse team?<br /><br />"DNA of those she identified was found but unidentified DNA was also present."<br /><br />The DNA of the men she identified as her assailants was not present.<br /><br /> <br />"Crystal had no motive to not give an accurate account of her sexual history."<br /><br />Yes she did. She was lying about being raped.<br /><br />"The unidentified DNA was not submitted to any DNA data base."<br /><br />Why did DA NIFONG fail to do that? One reason is that it was determined definitively that the DNA WAS NOT deposited at the time of the alleged rape.<br /> <br /><br />"There never was a definitive list of all who were there present compiled."<br /><br />Yes there ws.Your allegation is based on the presumption that the DNA fpund on Crystal had been deposited at the time of the alleged rape.It was established definitively that no rape had occurred.<br /> <br /><br />"Players known to be out of Durham submitted DNA. Only two non-players gave DNA and both of them happened to appear in photographs taken during the dancers performance. After being taken to the intake centre, without any treatment Crystal made a sudden recovery The intake centre did not think Crystal was impaired by alcohol nor did Duke University Hospital."<br /><br />Crystal made her rapid recovery when she realized she was about to be committed to a detox facility.<br />"She was tested for opioids, cocaine, GHB, methamphetamines and cannabinoids. At that time there was no available test for chloral hydrate a fast acting and short lasting hypnotic, well known to be the least likely drug to be identified date rape drug."<br /><br />Crystal's behavior was not consistent with that of a victim of a date rape drug. Chloral Hydrate is not readily available, nor is it easily synthesized by someone with no training in chemistry.<br /><br />"An examining Doctor saw what she assumed was semen on her examination of Crystal but failed to do a confirmatory test."<br /><br />Subsequent testing of the rape kit determined semen was not present.<br /><br />"Reasonable doubt that she was not raped, yes. Circumstantial evidence that she was,also.<br /><br />Thhere was no evidence she was raped.<br /> <br />"The truth must await any person, there present, claiming to be an eye-witness to break the "wall of silence" and come forward. This we look forward to."<br /><br />No eyewitness will come forth because there was no eyewitness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-15650922828659591402012-12-24T06:59:19.928-08:002012-12-24T06:59:19.928-08:00Kenny,
Thank you for confirming my post (Anonymou...Kenny,<br /><br />Thank you for confirming my post (Anonymous @11:32am).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-9804829373053367332012-12-23T21:00:17.929-08:002012-12-23T21:00:17.929-08:00Ken - there was no wall of silence because no rape...Ken - there was no wall of silence because no rape ever happened.Gang rape in a bathroom,lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-18155062834649165732012-12-23T20:25:17.596-08:002012-12-23T20:25:17.596-08:00@ Anonymous @ 11:32 AM: I find it totally naieve t...@ Anonymous @ 11:32 AM: I find it totally naieve that so many believe the propaganda they have been fed that the Duke LaCrosse spring break party was a completely benign affair attended by young gentlemen whose innocent life was high-jacked by a scheming femme fatale bent on extortion. The person who drove Crystal there gave evidence that she was not impaired when he dropped her off. A jury needed to resolve the conflicting claim that she arrived impaired. Was her noted impairment a delayed reaction to an earlier ingested intoxicant or was one involuntarily ingested after her arrival and if so what was it's purpose. The DNA extracted from sperm found on Crystal's person needed to be identified and that required confirming the sexual history she provided. DNA of those she identified was found but unidentified DNA was also present. Crystal had no motive to not give an accurate account of her sexual history. The unidentified DNA was not submitted to any DNA data base. There never was a definitive list of all who were there present compiled. Players known to be out of Durham submitted DNA. Only two non-players gave DNA and both of them happened to appear in photographs taken during the dancers performance. After being taken to the intake centre, without any treatment Crystal made a sudden recovery The intake centre did not think Crystal was impaired by alcohol nor did Duke University Hospital. She was tested for opioids, cocaine, GHB, methamphetamines and cannabinoids. At that time there was no available test for chloral hydrate a fast acting and short lasting hypnotic, well known to be the least likely drug to be identified date rape drug. An examining Doctor saw what she assumed was semen on her examination of Crystal but failed to do a confirmatory test. Reasonable doubt that she was not raped, yes. Circumstantial evidence that she was,also. The truth must await any person, there present, claiming to be an eye-witness to break the "wall of silence" and come forward. This we look forward to.kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.com