tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post3017482264148019277..comments2024-03-26T13:03:49.523-07:00Comments on justice4nifong: Public response to injustice against Crystal MangumNifong Supporterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-61674950096780223132012-07-02T13:24:59.176-07:002012-07-02T13:24:59.176-07:00Nice going Sid. Woody Vann basically stood up in ...Nice going Sid. Woody Vann basically stood up in court and said "I haven't had an opportunity to review these motions"<br /><br />You just need to stop. Honestly. You are NOT helping Crystal Mangum. Let her attorney do his job. If she asks you to submit another motion, tell her to give it to her lawyer.<br /><br />Were it my courtroom, I'd make you pay for everyone's wasted time.Lance the Internnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-12550380487394804982012-07-02T11:27:56.915-07:002012-07-02T11:27:56.915-07:00Crystal's hearing was supposed to be at 12:30 ...Crystal's hearing was supposed to be at 12:30 this afternoon...That's 2 hours ago by my clock.<br /><br />Anyone have an update?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-40026823232750795102012-07-02T07:30:13.143-07:002012-07-02T07:30:13.143-07:00I can tell if Sid wrote the new Mangum motions (as...I can tell if Sid wrote the new Mangum motions (as, I'm sure, most of you can).<br /><br />This would explain his reluctance to post them here.Lance the Internnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-19936260579891231232012-07-02T07:15:24.250-07:002012-07-02T07:15:24.250-07:00People awaiting trial do not typically file their ...People awaiting trial do not typically file their own motions in court......they go to their attorney and ask them to file, IF their counsel thinks it is appropriate. To file motions, after you were already warned about your behavior by the NC Bar, is just, well, stupid. If you think the practice committee is going to buy your explanation that all you did was carry papers, you are mistaken. Your hands are all over this, Harr. Don't make it even more obvious by trying to distort the truth. <br />Vann is Mangum's attorney....at least today.....and you should stay out of it. Period. If Mangum asked you to file a motion, the appropriate response would be, "No,you discuss this with your attorney and let HIM handle it!!! Idiotic to behave otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-86087078949884607022012-07-02T07:09:58.111-07:002012-07-02T07:09:58.111-07:00Mangum did NOT want Vann a year ago. She got Shel...Mangum did NOT want Vann a year ago. She got Shella, who she said she wanted. You interferred and Shella withdrew. Now she has Vann again. No way that mess can be construed as helpful to Mangum.<br />Shella was conducting his preparations for Mangum's defense without involving you...which was completely appropriate. You interferred, for your own publicity reasons, and caused a fine attorney to leave the case....which he absolutely should have done.<br />Because Vann has called in a hired gun, who is not board certified and who has laughable experience, compared to Nichols and the team of trauma physicians at Duke.....I would not consider this move by Vann to be particularly useful or helpful to Mangum. You complain constantly about people being bought up by the non-existent conspiracy. How long will it be before you start whining about Vann's incompetence for bringing in a marginal lightweight who is clearly in the business of being a professional witness?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-18829074828326549202012-07-02T06:49:59.001-07:002012-07-02T06:49:59.001-07:00Anonymous said...
One question, harr......why dont...<i><br />Anonymous said...<br />One question, harr......why dont you stay out of mangum's case and leave it to her lawyer? Seems to me if you really gave a damn, you would mind your own business and let the attorney handle her case. Your interference is asinine and causing her trouble. Its obviously not about mangum.....otherwise you would respect the law and the legal process and stay out of the way. I cannot see ONE good that has come to mamgum from your mucking in her affairs. And dont say you are only doing what she asks........we all know better. Mangum needs a lawyer, not a buffoon.<br /></i><br /><b><br />I am staying out of Mangum's case, and allowing her attorney to conduct it as he sees fit. If Mangum wants to file a motion with the court, I am not interfering with her lawyer's representation of the case by filing her motion on her behalf. I believe that a lot of good has come from my support of Ms. Mangum's case, and from the support she receives from other member of the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong. <br /><br />Specifically, one good thing that has come from my involvement is that she is now represented by an attorney who has at least contacted a forensic pathologist to review the Autopsy Examination Report of April 14, 2011. Do we agree on that?<br /></b>Nifong Supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-17769475949037053732012-07-02T06:49:21.650-07:002012-07-02T06:49:21.650-07:00Isn't it peculiar that Harr conveniently forge...Isn't it peculiar that Harr conveniently forgets that the prime offenders for overcharging and keeping people in jail, awaiting trial, appear to be Cline and her best pal, Nifong.....<br />Wonder why harr doesn't admit to his hypocrisy....????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-32249878666730175502012-07-02T06:29:25.565-07:002012-07-02T06:29:25.565-07:00Seems to me the public response to Mangum's si...Seems to me the public response to Mangum's situation, her current one, is basically "bleeech"....as in, when it is time for her day in court, let it be a fair trial, with competent counsel, and let the jury determine her fate, based on the evidence". I sure as hell have not heard any "public" outcry of angst about mistreatment of this lady. In fact, what I have heard is just the opposite.....she gets more breaks than a hip hop dancer. I would not count one convicted felon, drug seller, robber and overall scummy man, as the "PUBLIC". The outcry for justice for Mangum that harr whines about is himself, peterson the homophobic racist, and preacher kenny. that's about it.....oh, I forgot....one or two other folks who don't fork over bail money either.<br />so, lets just remind harr that he cannot get away with false statements about the PUBLIC response to Mangum as he describes it. He is a liar when he makes these kinds of statements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-89169797954760894192012-07-01T17:27:25.502-07:002012-07-01T17:27:25.502-07:00One question, harr......why dont you stay out of m...One question, harr......why dont you stay out of mangum's case and leave it to her lawyer? Seems to me if you really gave a damn, you would mind your own business and let the attorney handle her case. Your interference is asinine and causing her trouble. Its obviously not about mangum.....otherwise you would respect the law and the legal process and stay out of the way. I cannot see ONE good that has come to mamgum from your mucking in her affairs. And dont say you are only doing what she asks........we all know better. Mangum needs a lawyer, not a buffoon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-67069780412783809072012-07-01T13:06:50.367-07:002012-07-01T13:06:50.367-07:00Anonymous said...
http://www.nccourts.org/County/D...<i><br />Anonymous said...<br />http://www.nccourts.org/County/Durham/<br />Documents/dccms_070212.pdf<br /></i><br /><b><br />Thank you for the info, which is the site for the court schedule. I'll try to provide a link below.<br /><a href="javascript:void(0);" rel="nofollow">Durham Court Schedule</a><br /></b>Nifong Supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-80035822112121018062012-07-01T12:45:30.677-07:002012-07-01T12:45:30.677-07:00Ken, you are absolutely correct. The NC justice sy...Ken, you are absolutely correct. The NC justice system's flaws have been exposed for all to see. Minorities are the most frequent vicims of that flawed system.<br /><br />The NC justice system does not assure a speedy trial despite the constitutional right for one. The case management system allows prosecutors to delay and pick the judge. Defendants indicted before an arrest are not entitled to a probable cause hearing. No record is kept of grand jury proceedings, permitting witnesses to lie at will. There is no obligation to present exculpatory evidence. The "open discovery" law has no teeth. Prosecutors can delay providing discovery until shortly before trial. The prosector's ability to delay puts pressure on defendants to agree to pleas, particularly defendants unable to make bail.<br /><br />The Duke frame offered a real opportunity to work for reform. Affluent and middle class Americans saw for the first time the unfairness of the system. Few prosecutors have attracted as much attention as Nifong even as they attempt a deliberate frame. <br /><br />Those who claim to seek justice for the victims of an unfair system squandered that opportunity. They apparently thought it more important that affluent defendants should suffer all of the injustices of the system than they enlist new allies for reform. They complain that the defendants spent no time in jail. They propose preposterous theories and insist that something could have happened.<br /><br />They only seek justice some of the time.Harr Supporternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-42487800731140946442012-07-01T12:40:41.651-07:002012-07-01T12:40:41.651-07:00Anonymous said...
You obviously are not proud of t...<i><br />Anonymous said...<br />You obviously are not proud of the motion you filed in your appeal of the dismissal of your lawsuit against Duke. You filed it on April 10, but have failed to mention it except in short responses to other comments.<br /><br />I suspect you made no worthwhile legal arguments once again.<br /></i><br /><b><br />Au contraire, Mon ami. I am quite proud of my motion on appeal, however, I've been concentrating on issues surrounding Ms. Mangum.<br /></b>Nifong Supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-18792507561180119822012-07-01T12:36:10.465-07:002012-07-01T12:36:10.465-07:00dhall said...
From someone SO involved in Crystal&...<i><br />dhall said...<br />From someone SO involved in Crystal's case, you must be aware of her court appearance scheduled on July 2.<br /></i><br /><b><br />As a matter of fact, yesterday, Saturday, June 30th, I did hear late in the day that there was a court appearance scheduled for Monday, July 2nd. I believe that it will cover a bail reduction and release of the mysterious SBI forensic experiment that took over a year to complete.<br /></b>Nifong Supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-42427830719128432002012-07-01T08:35:59.121-07:002012-07-01T08:35:59.121-07:00How to respect North Carolina's justice system...How to respect North Carolina's justice system when innocent people can be incarcerated for months on end, without the right to a speedy trial. It's a system where prosecutorial abuse allows for extreme over-charging. In hopes that it will end their interminable inprisonment, desperate defendents, reluctantly, agree to plead guilty, even if they are innocent, to reduced charges. This seems to happen to minorities more often then not.kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-53403575060095350132012-07-01T04:17:44.422-07:002012-07-01T04:17:44.422-07:00SIDNEY HARR:
Your proclivity to dictate to the co...SIDNEY HARR:<br /><br />Your proclivity to dictate to the court what the court should decided shows, again, you believe you are above the law, that you have no respect for the law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-72138222837370483692012-07-01T04:15:34.272-07:002012-07-01T04:15:34.272-07:00SIDNEY HARR:
"What caused Mr. Daye to die af...SIDNEY HARR:<br /><br />"What caused Mr. Daye to die after being removed from life support was that he was electively removed from life support. That's no great mystery."<br /><br />It is no great mystery that Reginald Daye was placed on life support because of complications resulting from the stab wound inflicted on him by Crystal Mangum.<br /><br />That is, no great mystery except to SIDNEY HARR, which says very little about SIDNEY's judgment as a retired physician.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-78774301098646772812012-07-01T01:23:55.596-07:002012-07-01T01:23:55.596-07:00No white man would ever want to have sex with Crys...No white man would ever want to have sex with Crystal Mangum and I don't know why any black man would either.Poor Mr.Daye.I feel very sorry for him and the people who cared about him even though the person who writes this crap does not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-25630762861997217692012-06-30T20:08:29.208-07:002012-06-30T20:08:29.208-07:00SIDNEY HARR:
"What caused the problems with ...SIDNEY HARR:<br /><br />"What caused the problems with Mr. Daye's intubation is that the tube was placed in the esophagus instead of the trachea."<br /><br />What did not cause problems was that Reginald Daye's intubation. The tube, according to the documents illegally posted by SIDNEY HARR, was properly placed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-53545348603312606412012-06-30T12:42:48.339-07:002012-06-30T12:42:48.339-07:00http://www.nccourts.org/County/Durham/
Documents/d...http://www.nccourts.org/County/Durham/<br />Documents/dccms_070212.pdf<br /><br />7/2 12:15pmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-32703502810594862102012-06-30T12:24:35.493-07:002012-06-30T12:24:35.493-07:00SIDNEY HARR:
"To me it is more important tha...SIDNEY HARR:<br /><br />"To me it is more important that an expert have integrity than experience or credentials. What good is a report from an expert if it is filled with lies and misleading statements and conclusions?"<br /><br />This assumes facts nt in evidence.<br /><br />First you are not a man of integrity since you do not know the meaning of the word.<br /><br />Second, who you believe credible. It is the court, not you, who rules on credibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-75644390174255947332012-06-30T10:14:02.433-07:002012-06-30T10:14:02.433-07:00It speaks volumes that mangum and harr , once agai...It speaks volumes that mangum and harr , once again, acted without counsel's involvement and, again, to her detriment. I would hope that Vann withdraws and that there an injunction obtained to bar Harr from contact with Mangum. As lousy a person i think Mangum is, she is entitled to effective counsel and Harr is behaving in a reprehensible manner. Shame on him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-48557192735488158552012-06-30T09:59:17.203-07:002012-06-30T09:59:17.203-07:00No the reason why i did not make a long critique o...No the reason why i did not make a long critique of your long response was this: your writing reveals a very disturbed individual, with early dementia and clear signs of paaranoia. If i were your family member, I would be doing my best to get you some help. Thats why i said it was both embarrassing and sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-70746261305678010342012-06-30T09:42:02.202-07:002012-06-30T09:42:02.202-07:00From someone SO involved in Crystal's case, yo...From someone SO involved in Crystal's case, you must be aware of her court appearance scheduled on July 2.dhallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04706552504466843702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-73786632777097962622012-06-30T08:37:39.364-07:002012-06-30T08:37:39.364-07:00You obviously are not proud of the motion you file...You obviously are not proud of the motion you filed in your appeal of the dismissal of your lawsuit against Duke. You filed it on April 10, but have failed to mention it except in short responses to other comments.<br /><br />I suspect you made no worthwhile legal arguments once again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-70735067700533287212012-06-30T08:13:23.123-07:002012-06-30T08:13:23.123-07:00Interesting. The ridiculous letter from Jones meri...Interesting. The ridiculous letter from Jones merits a blog, but Mangum's motions do not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com