tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post3976547005595616024..comments2024-03-26T13:03:49.523-07:00Comments on justice4nifong: Turncoat defense attorneys help convict their clientsNifong Supporterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00893537130835998222noreply@blogger.comBlogger399125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-89667136240155423222014-09-15T12:18:10.128-07:002014-09-15T12:18:10.128-07:00Kenhyderal wrote: "At present I can not prove...Kenhyderal wrote: <i>"At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can."</i> No, there are not. Everyone present at the party has been identified and interviewed. The evidence overwhelming shows that Crystal lied about what happened. In fact, no rape took place on the night of March 13-14, 2006. <br /><br /><i>"At least by sworn deposition. Then the charges need to be re- laid against the actual persons who committed specific crimes. The statute of limitations has run out on some, but not all, of these crimes."</i><br /><br />What would those be? Be careful, this is a trap question for the uninformed. <br /><br />Walt-in-DurhamWalthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16064038481537517025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-74866737578776306272014-06-26T14:29:24.331-07:002014-06-26T14:29:24.331-07:00Absent a lawsuit, or criminal charges, why would t...Absent a lawsuit, or criminal charges, why would there be sworn depositions? No one cares enough about the case except the few loons here who think it is the be-all/end-all to want to talk about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-11228352447423952742014-06-26T07:37:55.525-07:002014-06-26T07:37:55.525-07:00Kenhyderal -- Where can we find these sworn deposi...Kenhyderal -- Where can we find these sworn depositions?Lance The Supreme Poster of Enlightenmentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-18635370850448976062014-06-25T10:40:45.830-07:002014-06-25T10:40:45.830-07:00KENHYDERAL:
Here is a definition of contrived fro...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />Here is a definition of contrived from the web:<br /><br />"deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously.<br /><br />created or arranged in a way that seems artificial and unrealistic."<br /><br />Reade Seligman can document via hard evidence that he was not at the party house when the alleged crime allegedly happened. You and DA NIFONG and willie cohan all describe his alibi as contrived.<br /><br />But your mystrery unidentified rapist hypothesis, you have just admitted, you can not backup with evidence.<br /><br />Do you even know what contrived means?<br /><br />Well, I have tried to enlighten you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-59461460741804746082014-06-25T10:16:43.851-07:002014-06-25T10:16:43.851-07:00KENHYDERAL:
"At present I can not prove it b...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can. At least by sworn deposition. Then the charges need to be re- laid against the actual persons who committed specific crimes."<br /><br />You obfuscate again, trying to dodge the issue that the evidence compiled in the case showed no crime bad happened.<br /><br />"The statute of limitations has run out on some, but not all, of these crimes. Nevertheless, deceits need to be exposed and reputations restored."<br /><br />The only deceit in the Duke phoney rape case was the deceit which corrupt DA NIFONG tried to perpetrate, that Crystal was raped. <br /><br />I don't ascribe to William Cohan's assertion that we will never know."<br /><br />Neither do I, because we know nothing happened in there.<br /><br />"There are people who do know and,"<br /><br />Yes there are, the people who know nothing happened in there".<br /><br />"in the long run, the truth has a way of coming out."<br /><br />More than eight years have passed since Crystal falsely accused Lacrosse players of raping her. That has been a pretty long run. No credible, factual evidence has emerged that Crystal was raped.<br /><br /> "Kilgo has most likely been silenced."<br /><br />Unlikely since no one would go to any great trouble to silence a witness who has demonstrated over and over again he is not credible, except to guilt presuming racist KENHYDERAL.<br /><br />"The person who now posts as Kilgo is an imposter."<br /><br />Unlikely.<br /><br />"Probably one who has posted here under Anonymous for years. My question to him/her is what is your motive for clouding the issue by engaging in deceit and mischief."<br /><br />What you call mischief and deceit is Kilgo's failure to back up the claim that he told you he had a Lacrosse player friend who witnessed a sexual assault on Crystl at the party, perpetrated by non Lax player attendees.<br /><br />You have wasted a lot of bandwidth admitting you have no credible factual evidence of any anonymous party attendees/rapists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-67267932265324258842014-06-25T09:54:43.105-07:002014-06-25T09:54:43.105-07:00At present I can not prove it but there are people...At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can. At least by sworn deposition. Then the charges need to be re- laid against the actual persons who committed specific crimes. The statute of limitations has run out on some, but not all, of these crimes. Nevertheless, deceits need to be exposed and reputations restored. I don't ascribe to William Cohan's assertion that we will never know. There are people who do know and, in the long run, the truth has a way of coming out. Kilgo has most likely been silenced. The person who now posts as Kilgo is an imposter. Probably one who has posted here under Anonymous for years. My question to him/her is what is your motive for clouding the issue by engaging in deceit and mischief. kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-43703020257716958992014-06-25T08:42:40.631-07:002014-06-25T08:42:40.631-07:00KENHYDERAL:
When the Lacrosse case started, both ...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />When the Lacrosse case started, both the Prosecution and Defense agreed that every party attendee had been identified.<br /><br />You came back with, the only non Lacrosse players had been identified were two who were photographed.<br /><br />Then you claimed Kilgo told you he had a friend, an anonymous Lacrosse player who told him that he had witnessed a sexual assault at the party perpetrated by non Lacrosse player attendees.<br /><br />You can not document that Kilgo ever told you any such thing. Kilgo has recently left posts on this blog but has not corroborated your story.<br /><br />Ergo, you did assert that there had been unidentified party attendees who raped Crystal. What you did not do, what you have never done is provide factual, credible evidence to support your allegation.<br /><br />I say again, your claim that no one can provide evidence there were not is meaningless, since you have the obligation to prove. The fact that you say that shows you have no factual credible evidence to offer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-82180588411833940412014-06-25T06:22:01.337-07:002014-06-25T06:22:01.337-07:00"... Where is there credible factual evidence...<i><b>"... Where is there credible factual evidence that there was not.</b></i><br /><br />Kenhyderal -- You realize there's at least 1 logical fallacy here, right?Lance The Supreme Poster of Enlightenmentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-56910333774512475552014-06-25T05:51:52.966-07:002014-06-25T05:51:52.966-07:00KENHYDERAL:
You have said that DA NIFONG thought ...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />You have said that DA NIFONG thought Reade Seligman's alibi was contrived.<br /><br />Something contrived is something like your claim that there were unidentified party attendees who raped Crystal Mangum.<br /><br />You have provided no factual, credible evidence of this. In a recent comment, even though you did not realize it, you admitted you could not provide credible factual evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-37202563707546700992014-06-25T04:24:35.149-07:002014-06-25T04:24:35.149-07:00KENHYDERAL:
Now I ask again.
1) At the time the ...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />Now I ask again.<br /><br />1) At the time the innocent Lacrosse players were indicted, who knew of the non Lax DNA found on Crystal?<br /><br />2) Who revealed to the public that DNA found on Crystal did not match any member of the Lacrosse team.<br /><br />FInally, since you have asserted that there were unidentified party attendees at the Lacrosse party, YOU provide factual credible evidence that there indeed were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-17139118743879486742014-06-25T04:12:43.103-07:002014-06-25T04:12:43.103-07:00KENHYDERAL:
Since you try to duck the evidence, c...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />Since you try to duck the evidence, check this out:<br /><br />From: http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2006/12/11/gathering-storm<br /><br />"Other developments have been frightening, especially Dr. Brian Meehan's Dec. 15 admission that he conspired with District Attorney Mike Nifong to conceal exculpatory DNA evidence from the defense".<br /><br />DNA Security provided DA NIFONG with the finding of non Lax player DNA in April of 2006. That evidence came out in a hearing in which Defense Counsel Brad Bannon cross examined Brian Meehan and got him to admit that he and Nifong conspired to conceal that result. That was in December of 2006.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-31277403343428536972014-06-25T03:43:20.354-07:002014-06-25T03:43:20.354-07:00KENHYDERAL:
"Dr.A. said: "Where is the ...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Dr.A. said: "Where is the credible factual evidence that there were unidentified party attendees"........ Where is there credible factual evidence that there was not."<br /><br />YOU are asserting that there were unidentified party attendees. It is incumbent upon YOU to back up that assertion with credible factual evidence. YOU have just admitted you can not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-3167108154820739332014-06-25T03:40:52.694-07:002014-06-25T03:40:52.694-07:00KENHYDERAL:
"I'm ducking nothing."
...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"I'm ducking nothing."<br /><br />You are ducking. You duck any and all evidence which does not buy into your presumption of guilt.<br /><br />"I want names."<br /><br />If you demand the answers to who had the evidence of the non lax DNA on Crystal and who made the evidence pubic, you are ducking. The answers are on the internet. You will find them if you google Duke rape Case or DNA evidence in the Duke Rape Case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-840508607120383092014-06-24T21:01:44.231-07:002014-06-24T21:01:44.231-07:00Dr.A. said: "Where is the credible factual ev...Dr.A. said: "Where is the credible factual evidence that there were unidentified party attendees"........ Where is there credible factual evidence that there was not. kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-9790058849681235332014-06-24T20:54:43.561-07:002014-06-24T20:54:43.561-07:00Dr. A. said: "You know the answers to those q...Dr. A. said: "You know the answers to those questions".... I'm ducking nothing. I want names.kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-60139802366333092932014-06-24T17:45:15.794-07:002014-06-24T17:45:15.794-07:00KENHYDERAL:
Where is the credible factual evidenc...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />Where is the credible factual evidence that there were unidentified party attendees?<br /><br />You have quoted Kilgo. Kilgo is not a credible witness to anything that happened at the Lacrosse party. His claim of an anonymous Lacrosse player friend was supposedly made years after March 13/14 2006. You can provide any corroboration that Kilgo ever made that claim, which suggests strongly you fabricated the claim.<br /><br />Which in turn suggests you want to substitute uncorroborated allegations for facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-23220008167782770062014-06-24T17:23:38.406-07:002014-06-24T17:23:38.406-07:00KENHYDERAL:
"Dr. A said: " The facts ar...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"Dr. A said: " The facts are known"....... So whose DNA was found? Which persons were at the Party. Which persons claim in statements to the Police that Crystal "arrived" in an intoxicated condition?"<br /><br />You know the answers to those questions. You reject them because they do not buy into your presumption of guilt. Your guilt presuming hypotheses do not change the facts.<br /><br />And you are ducking the questions.<br /><br />Who knew about the DNA found on Crystal at the time the innocent Lacrosse players were indicted?<br /><br />How did it become public that non Lax player DNA was found on Crystal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-9425093640894924052014-06-24T17:00:38.811-07:002014-06-24T17:00:38.811-07:00Dr. A said: " The facts are known".........Dr. A said: " The facts are known"....... So whose DNA was found? Which persons were at the Party. Which persons claim in statements to the Police that Crystal "arrived" in an intoxicated condition?kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-72056162519832036442014-06-24T16:56:21.724-07:002014-06-24T16:56:21.724-07:00Care to put your name to that accusation?Care to put your name to that accusation?kenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-10901758472193423902014-06-24T11:09:52.944-07:002014-06-24T11:09:52.944-07:00Kenny's thinking on the rape hoax is not disor...Kenny's thinking on the rape hoax is not disordered. It is dishonest. He is simply a liar. If facts do not exist to support his position, he will make up facts that do. If there exist facts and evidence in opposition to his position, he will lie about them.<br /><br />Kenny lies. He is not to be trusted about anything.<br /><br />Never debate with a liar about his lies. It lends legitimacy to their lies. Whether it be Kenny or any other liar, the best approach is to simply point out and expose the lies. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-28460671050860979782014-06-24T10:14:15.339-07:002014-06-24T10:14:15.339-07:00KENHYDERAL:
Your thinking on the rape case is dis...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />Your thinking on the rape case is disordered. You contend that there were unknown men at the party who raped Crystal Mangum, and that a shoddy police investigation failed to identify those men><br /><br />So answer the questions.<br /><br />Who conducted the police investigation?<br /><br />Who had custody of the evidence of Crystal's sexual encounters with other men?<br /><br />Who concealed that evidence?<br /><br />Who brought that evidence out of concealment and into the light?<br /><br />The answer to the first two questions is CORRUPT DA MIKE NIFONG.<br /><br />The answer to the third was the Lacrosse defendants' lawyers. If not for them, you would have no mystery rapist hypothesis to argue.<br /><br />What that suggests is, again, corrupt DA NIFONG knew there had been no rape but wanted to prosecute and convict members of the Lacrosse team anyway.<br /><br />Ergo, in spite of your calling yourself an advocate for justice, you advocate for injustice.<br /><br />I ask again, why is it so important to you to believe Crystal had been gang raped?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-86168240801561535362014-06-24T10:07:26.627-07:002014-06-24T10:07:26.627-07:00KENHYDERAL:
I should point out I said YOU, not Cr...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />I should point out I said YOU, not Crystal, fear a complete comprehensive investigation into what happened to Crystal.<br /><br />I say this because facts are known which beyond any reasonable doubt that Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party. You are trying to purvey as facts things for which you can provide no credible factual evidence.<br /><br />Ergo, I say again, you are the one who fears the facts about Crystal.<br /><br />And I ask again, what do you find so onerous about the fact that Crystal was not raped?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-69433779082790381542014-06-24T09:40:18.813-07:002014-06-24T09:40:18.813-07:00KENHYDERAL:
"You are wrong. Crystal has noth...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />"You are wrong. Crystal has nothing to fear from having all the facts known because the truth will support her allegation and refute the lies being spread about her, both in the Duke Lacrosse case and the Reginald Daye case".<br /><br />Two problems here:<br /><br />1) The facts are known.<br /><br />2) The facts support that she was not raped and that she murdered Reginald Daye.<br /><br />What you call facts are your fantasies, which are a product of your attitude that Crystal should have been given a pass for murdering Reginald Day, just like she got passes for her earlier crimes(stealing a cab, trying to run down an officer, filing a false police report, committing arson in Milton Walker's apartment).<br /><br />Whatever facts there are, you are trying to suppress for Crystal's benefit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-12624304940737352752014-06-24T09:29:08.491-07:002014-06-24T09:29:08.491-07:00You are wrong. Crystal has nothing to fear from ha...You are wrong. Crystal has nothing to fear from having all the facts known because the truth will support her allegation and refute the lies being spread about her, both in the Duke Lacrosse case and the Reginald Daye casekenhyderalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840949337424645023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3773293499407151140.post-69669203011050347412014-06-24T04:37:34.272-07:002014-06-24T04:37:34.272-07:00KENHYDERAL:
In your seemingly willful ignorance a...KENHYDERAL:<br /><br />In your seemingly willful ignorance as to why the men who were the sources of the non Lax player DNA found on Crystal's person were never identified, you show that YOU are someone who fears a full and comprehensive investigation as to what happened to Crystal. It does not buy into your racially motivated presumption of guilt on the part of innocent Caucasian men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com