Monday, September 17, 2012

As far as the media’s concerned, when it comes to Crystal Mangum domestic violence is acceptable

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Print and broadcast media have been carrying the tragic story about Kathleen Bertrand, the 41 year-old mother of three who fell victim to domestic violence. She was murdered outside of her workplace in Cameron Village Shopping Center by her ex-husband who traveled from his residence outside of the state in order to end her life. And after accomplishing this deed, he went on to take his own life just miles away.

The News & Observer, which heavily covered the story, published an editorial about the tragedy titled, “Everyone’s Duty: Domestic violence is a community problem, too often a deadly serious one.” “Shops go purple for slain employee” read another newspaper article the following day which covered the successful fundraiser for the three orphaned children.

I have no problem with the coverage of this horrific incident by the mainstream media, and, in fact, I applaud it. However, I believe the media is doing a great injustice to the public by covering up the fact that Crystal Magnum, the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser, was a victim of domestic violence on April 3, 2011. She fought to defend herself against her intoxicated assailant Reginald Daye, and the stab wound she inflicted did not even have anything to do with his demise. That Daye was the provocateur is without doubt as a reasonable person would easily surmise that Mr. Daye had punched Mangum, pulled out her hair, kicked in the bathroom door prior to being stabbed once by Ms. Mangum… her final act before grabbing her purse and fleeing.

The media, from the git-go, has been successfully misleading the masses into believing that Crystal Mangum got into an argument with Daye, and due to this verbal disagreement became enraged enough to stab him with a kitchen knife… stealing money before leaving. This fantasy, which the majority of people buy into, is far from the truth. True, they were arguing, however not over money, rent, or cashier’s checks. That early Sunday morning in April 2011, Daye, with a stuporous level of alcohol coursing through his vessels, was jealously upset because Crystal had been talking with another man. The argument had absolutely nothing to do with monetary issues as the media has continuously suggested.

One thing the media consistently excludes in covering this story, is that Reginald Daye became physical with Mangum out of anger… punching her in the face and head approximately ten times. He dragged her by the hair, with clumps of hair being noted and recorded by police, and when Ms. Mangum sought refuge in the bathroom by locking the door behind her, Daye kicked it in… off its hinges according to reports. It was only after Daye spit on her, brought in steak knives from the kitchen to throw at her, and was in the process of strangling her that she grabbed a knife lying within reach and stabbed him once. The media conveniently and purposely omits this narrative, not wanting the public to realize that Reginald Daye was stabbed in self-defense. Even with its extensive investigative resources, the mainstream media was unable to unearth Daye’s lengthy criminal record that includes “assault on a female.”

Despite the fact that the injury Mangum inflicted to Daye was not related to his death, the mainstream media allows the public to believe that the wound itself was fatal. Little is mentioned of how the emergency surgery was successful and that his prognosis was excellent. There is an humungous media void regarding the botched intubation, cardiac arrest, and resultant brain death that occurred within he walls of Duke University Hospital, and which led to Daye’s elective removal from life support and death.

The message this biased media reporting is sending to future victims of domestic violence is that if you fight back against your abuser and he/she dies, the possibility exists that you could be charged with murder. Crystal Mangum is not being provided protection under the law as she was turned from victim into assailant in 2010 after she was repeatedly punched in the face by her ex-boyfriend. The media was careful not to mention that the repeated punches to the face initiated the cascade of events that led to Mangum’s unjust arrest. Instead, the media focused on the extremely outrageous charges brought against her, and the alleged statements she made to him after he returned to the house during the police presence. And, of course, the media did not question why the police decided to do nothing and call the fire department for a small blaze in a bathtub that could have easily been extinguished by turning on bathwater.

It is obvious that the authorities as well as the media are after Crystal Mangum, seeking to do the work of the Carpetbaggers by carrying out their vengeful agenda. Both incidents involving Mangum that occurred in 2010 and 2011 are ones in which Mangum was the victim, her assailants were neither arrested nor charged, and she spent, and is spending, significant time in jail away from her three children who need her and love her.

The treatment of Ms. Mangum by the justice system makes it ever apparent that when it comes to the Duke Lacrosse case and its actors and those associated with it, when it comes to the fair application of justice, all bets are off… and those deemed by the Powers-That-Be to be on the wrong end of the Duke Lacrosse case, will undoubtedly be getting the short end of the stick. 



Note: Coming soon, an all important interactive flog!!

127 comments:

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Sadly, if Mangum does "fire" Vann, she will be making a terrible decision. If the quality of the so-called motion (she wrote, per Harr) is any indication of Mangum's true education (not the pseudo token degree she got from NCCU), then Mangum will be in real trouble. That piece of writing contained so many errors in grammar, spelling, construction, thought and comprehension.....truly embarrassing.


You are absolutely wrong. By firing Woody Vann and representing herself she will have access to all of the discovery. The truth in the discovery and evidence will set her free.

Keep in mind that Mr. Vann is withholding prosecution discovery from her. There has to be a reason for that... the reason being that he's in cahoots with the prosecution. It's elementary.

Nifong Supporter said...


guiowen said...


sidney said:
" I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to persuade Mr. Nifong to help Crystal so that the Bar's Practice Committee can come down on him for practicing law without a license."

On the contrary, I'm specifically asking him to apply for reinstatement. I realize this may be somewhat embarrassing to him, but remember you're trying to save an innocent mother of three from a long jail sentence. Which is more important? A momentary embarrassment, or Crystal's freedom?

In any case, I notice you tried to practice law without a license, and so far as I could tell all they did was send you to bed without supper.


gui, mon ami,

Believe me, I went to bed with a full stomach. The State Bar's so-called case against me for practicing law was piddly, to say the least.

As far as Crystal's freedom, she will gain it as soon as the truth is revealed... in other words, as soon as she get the discovery that her attorney has been keeping from her.

Adieu.

Lance the Intern said...

"Keep in mind that Mr. Vann is withholding prosecution discovery from her. There has to be a reason for that..."

A lawyer may be justified in delaying transmission of information when the client would be likely to react imprudently to an immediate communication.

Giving discovery information to a non-lawyer who subsequently posts it on a blog would be a reason for delaying transmission of information. It's elementary.

Lance the Intern said...

"Both incidents involving Mangum that occurred in 2010 and 2011 are ones in which Mangum was the victim, her assailants were neither arrested nor charged..."

In regards to the 2010 incident, according to police documents Mangum scratched, punched and threw objects at Walker and told him, "I'm going to stab you, (expletive)!"

She then set fire to his clothes. Although Sid has denied this fact multiple times (even claiming that the police started the fire), Crystal has admitted to this.

In regards to the 2011 event, any person charged with a crime has a right to confront their accuser. Clearly that is not possible if the accused is dead. Therefore, it makes no sense to arrest or charge Mr. Daye. Someone with such a finely honed understanding of the law should know this, Sid.

One further note -- Perhaps if Mr. Daye had been more familiar with the 2010 incident, he wouldn't have chosen a "roommate" so....poorly.

guiowen said...

Sidney says:
"As far as Crystal's freedom, she will gain it as soon as the truth is revealed... in other words, as soon as she get the discovery that her attorney has been keeping from her."

So what are you doing about this?
So far as I can see, you have several tasks ahead of you:

1. Try to get bail for Crystal so the prosecutors cannot pressure her. Kenhyderal is trying to put the money together, along with some lawyers called Simeon. You and your friends on the J4N committee should all contribute something. At the very least, communicate with Kenhyderal and Malek Williams. There may be others willing to chip in: Crystal must have some friends, possibly from NC Central, or even from high school days, or perhaps from the several places where she's worked as a dancer.
2. Try to get her a new lawyer. I cannot understand why you haven't persuaded Mike Nifong to have his license reinstated. As a true minister of justice, he would be in excellent position to get CGM out of this mess.
3. Get your story out to the world. You have many friends who will help, but you must coordinate their activities. Point out that this won't cost them any money; it would only require them to give some time for a good cause, namely, setting an innocent mother of three free from the clutches of Rae Evans and her Carpetbagger Jihad.

4. One possibility: ask your friend Professor Coleman to invite you to give a lecture at Duke. It would really be ironic justice: just a few months after Dick Brodhead or Broad Dickhead (or whatever his name is) had his goons boot you off campus, you would come back as a personal guest of one of the distinguished professors there. This would really give the shaft to Dickhead (or Brodhead or whatever).

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Keep in mind that Mr. Vann is withholding prosecution discovery from her. There has to be a reason for that... the reason being that he's in cahoots with the prosecution. It's elementary."

SIDNEY, via that comment, you demonstrate you can not function at the level of an elementary school student.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Believe me, I went to bed with a full stomach. The State Bar's so-called case against me for practicing law was piddly, to say the least."

Not as piddly as your case that Crystal acted in self defense.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I believe the media is doing a great injustice to the public by covering up the fact that Crystal Magnum, the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser, was a victim of domestic violence on April 3, 2011."

Crystal is the victimizer/false accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case and there is no evidence that she was the victim of domestic violence on April 3, 2011

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"That Daye was the provocateur is without doubt as a reasonable person would easily surmise that Mr. Daye had punched Mangum, pulled out her hair, kicked in the bathroom door prior to being stabbed once by Ms. Mangum".

SIDNEY, that is what you surmise, and you have shown beyond a doubt you are anything but a reasonable person, considering your belief in the guilt of the Lacrosse players and your belief in the non existent carpetbagger jihad.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"
One thing the media consistently excludes in covering this story, is that Reginald Daye became physical with Mangum out of anger… punching her in the face and head approximately ten times. He dragged her by the hair, with clumps of hair being noted and recorded by police, and when Ms. Mangum sought refuge in the bathroom by locking the door behind her, Daye kicked it in".

That is Crystal's narrative and she has been discredited as a truth teller a long time ago.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Even with its extensive investigative resources, the mainstream media was unable to unearth Daye’s lengthy criminal record that includes 'assault on a female.'”

On the other hand, you have repeatedly showed yourself unable to unearth the fact that said charge was dismissed by the DA, even though it is plainly stated in the document you published on line.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Crystal Mangum is not being provided protection under the law as she was turned from victim into assailant in 2010 after she was repeatedly punched in the face by her ex-boyfriend."

Who told you that? Crystal, who lied to you when she told you she had not set her ex boyfriend's clothes on fire in his apartment, in front of her children?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The treatment of Ms. Mangum by the justice system makes it ever apparent that when it comes to the Duke Lacrosse case and its actors and those associated with it, when it comes to the fair application of justice, all bets are off… and those deemed by the Powers-That-Be to be on the wrong end of the Duke Lacrosse case, will undoubtedly be getting the short end of the stick."

Yet another demonstration that you are totally out of touch with reality and are probably schizophrenic as well as being a deluded megalomaniac.

Anonymous said...

Oh brother, Harr you need some new material, bro. This same old tired pack of lies is getting old.
Ok, so Daye had a charge of assault on a female WHICH WAS DROPPED. I will give you that. Now let's discuss ALL the charges against Mangum, dropped or not. To be fair, if you want to make inferences about DAYE based on a charge that was dropped, then we will make inferences bout Mangum based on the charges on her record.
I suggest to you that you take an honest look at the two records. Any objective view will tell you that mangum's record not only has charges with a,violent component but also,convictions with violence. You persist in lying about reginaldmdaye. Those ofus who believe on the truth, not your harrisms, know who,has,the real record of violent behavior. You are deceitful .And that is why you have no credibility

Break the Conspiracy said...

Sid,

Once again, I find this blog disappointing. I expected an update on Crystal's decision and get a rerun.

You have made two points repeatedly:

1. Crystal is the victim of a widespread conspiracy. Her attorney works against her. Other attorneys are also part of the conspiracy.

2. The truth will set her free. However, her attorneys have withheld evidence that will prove her innocence. The media would suppress it anyway.

If this is the case, you know what steps are required:

1. Crystal must fire Woody Vann as her attorney.

2. She must make all discovery available to you.

3. You must post all discovery.

4. You must increase your readership.

In the two weeks since I first made these observations, you appear to have made little, if any, progress.

Where do you stand? Have you made this recommendation to Crystal? If not, why the delay? If you have, what was her response?

Indecision on either your or Crystal's part suggests a lack of belief in the widespread conspiracy you have discussed so frequently or a lack of belief in Crystal's self-defense claim.

Apparently, you or Crystal have doubts. I can understand that-- a plea for time served may offer a quick resolution and little downside (although you and Crystal must consider whether a felony conviction will create difficulties in getting custody of her children).

Please, give us an update. We are anxious to understand what Crystal will decide.

kenhyderal said...

"Justice delayed is justice denied"-Gladstone......The disgraceful practice, in North Carolina, of overcharging defendents, setting exorbinant bail, un-attainable by the poor and then delaying the trial for months, as a leverage to accet a plea deal for a lesser charge and time served, is a blight on that backward State. Playing on a Mother's desparate desire to be reunited with her children is sadistic and immoral. As poster "Break" points out the pitfall for Crystal in this "pact with the devil" is, that, in so doing, it might jeopardize her chance of regaining the custody of her beloved two older children; a dilema akin to King Solomon and the disputed child. Cruel and unusual punishment.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"The disgraceful practice, in North Carolina, of overcharging defendents, setting exorbinant bail, un-attainable by the poor and then delaying the trial for months, as a leverage to accet a plea deal for a lesser charge and time served, is a blight on that backward State."

Yet you approve of this "disgraceful practice" when it is applied to innocent Caucasian men who are wrongfully accused of raping a black woman.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Playing on a Mother's desparate desire to be reunited with her children is sadistic and immoral."

All Crystal had to do to avoid this situation is not stab Reginald Daye. All SIDNEY and his gang had to do to help Crystal is help her make bail.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Cruel and unusual punishment."

Yet you think it is not cruel and unusual to wrongfully accuse innocent Caucasian men of rape. You also do not think it is cruel and unusual to wrongfully convict innocent Caucasian men of rape based on the false accusation of a black woman.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Crystal showed great concern for her children when, just a short time after she was allegedly raped, she dressed in a skimpy outfit and pole danced at the platinum club.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Crystal showed a great deal of concern for her children when, by her own admission, she set fire to Milton Walker's clothes while her children were in their apartment.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Come off the distortion of fact, that Crystal is the victim of the vicious white establishment. While her situation is truly pitiful, she bears the responsibility for it.

Anonymous said...

7 ed'ThopKENHYDERAL:

"As poster "Break" points out the pitfall for Crystal in this "pact with the devil" is, that, in so doing, it might jeopardize her chance of regaining the custody of her beloved two older children".

And you think her documented previous criminal behavior makes her a fit mother. HUH!!!

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Was Michael Jermaine Burch's bail excessive? He is a black man who raped a Duke coed, was released on bail, then raped a second woman. He was allowed to plead to a charge less than rape.

"The 2nd Duke Rape Case
On February 11, 2007, another woman alleged she was raped in the bathroom at an off-campus party at Duke. Despite the many similarities between this rape allegation and the one made against the Duke lacrosse team a year earlier, the reactions by the media and by Duke University were very different.

Initially, the cable news networks showed a great deal of interest in this second rape allegation. However, this interest waned when it was revealed the party had been hosted by Phi Beta Sigma, a black fraternity. By the time it was confirmed that the rapist was black and the victim was white, the story had been relegated to conservative and legal blogs. Only the Duke campus newspaper reported the victim's race. While the suspect was still on the loose, the local daily newspaper, which had shamelessly highlighted the racial angle of the Duke lacrosse rape case, refused to mention the suspect was black. None of this is surprising. As Lawrence Auster has noted, no explicit reference is ever made to the racial aspect of black on white rapes in the media.

The response by Duke University was also very different this time around. There were no prayers, marches, or candlelight vigils for Katie Rouse. Vice President of Student Affairs Larry Moneta even seemed to blame the white victim, when he dismissed her rape as "part of the reality of collegiate life and of experimentation and some of the consequences of students not always being in the right place at the right time."

In March 2009, Michael Jermaine Burch was sentenced to 48-67 months in prison for the rape. Actually, the sentence was for two rapes - the one at Duke and a second one committed after the defendant was set free on bail. If Burch's bail had been set at $400,00, as it had been for the Duke 3, this second rape (race of victim unknown) could have been prevented."

From http://araceagainsttime.blogspot.com/2009/04/ten-most-outrageous-moments-in-duke_11.html

Anonymous said...

KENHYDEERAL:

And you say black on white racism does not exist.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Go to http://araceagainsttime.blogspot.com/2009/04/ten-most-outrageous-moments-in-duke_11.html and be enlightened about what really happened in the Duke phony rape case.

Anonymous said...

Yep, I agree with Sidney, domestic violence needs to be covered equally and objectively. So when a woman stabs a man (and eventually kills him with that stab wound), it is appropriate to report that behavior for what it is....domestic violence and, eventually, reporting it as leading to a charge of murder. The evidence certainly supports the charge, in spite of what one halfwit thinks. However, if the case go to trial and the defense attorney is able to convince the jury that Mangum is not guilty of the charges beyond a reasonable doubt, then she will go free.

Fit mother, Kenny? Laughable. A pole dancing, selling herself, publicly drunk, sexual user who commits acts of violence (for which she has been convicted) in FRONT OF HER CHILDREN. You are an idiot if you think that behavior points toward being a good mother. 2002.....LONG before Mangum ever danced for the LAX guys, she was charged with drunk driving, trying to run over an officer, stealing a car, reckless driving......wanna tell us how that was all due to the evil white conspiracy? Oh, and don't whine that she was only CHARGED with those offenses and CONVICTED OF LESSER. If you do, then perhaps you can explain why Harr insists on lying about Mr. Daye's "charge" of assault which we all know was DROPPED.
Break, whoever you are, funnier with every post.....

Anonymous said...

Burch also had a prior arrests and convictions.......again, he got a pass and was let loose to commit more crimes.
The rape victim at Duke was dragged through the mud by the administration for being at a party where alcohol was bought and consumed by underaged drinkers! EEEEGADS, Sidney, debauchery! gosh, I must have missed the post where you go up to the pulpit and preach your Jesus speech about drunken debauchery amongst those underaged men where Rouse was assaulted.

Anonymous said...

I'd say the media did a pretty decent job of covering the domestic violence where Mangum was concerned. .....in 2010 and in 2011. Guys, if she gets out of jail again, and gives you a look, RUN the other direction.....

Anonymous said...

"Her beloved two older children"????? Beloved? Whaaaaa? Wow, I guess being a sex worker because the poor dear can't find another job in the entire world....even with her honors degree from that find institution, NCCU.......wow, and bless her heart, Mangum shouldn't be held accountable for attacking a man with a ladder, vandalizing his car, setting a fire....all in the presence of her children. gosh, why no......and we all know she did the right thing by running from the drunken wild man, Daye, straight to the location where her child was......wow, that was a "good mother" thing to do! Perhaps she thought her child would fight off the knife throwing Daye!
oh, geez, I forgot all the fun she had in 2002.....nice.
Kenny, sell it someplace else, will ya, fella......we are hurling here......

Anonymous said...

927 word count......hooray. It's the same song, the umpteenth verse.......
So, sidney, has Mangum taken your advice and booted Vann yet?
Don't worry, folks, this is just Harr laying the groundwork for Poor Mangum/Poor Nifong, Part Ten.....or, "How the evil white oppressor conspiracy kept Sister away from her beloved children".

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Are you going to plead that you live in Raleigh and are unaware of the Michael Jermaine Burch incident which happened in Durham? That is your usual dodge.

Your deliberate ignorance of the Michael Jermaine Burch case indicates to me that you believe that black men who commit crimes against Caucasian women should get a pass.

Same goes for your acolyte, KENHYDERAL.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

What do you do when someone asks you for evidence that the carpetbagger jihad exists. You respond that that person has succumbed to a jedi mind trick.

Yet you can not give evidence that said jedi mind tricks exist anywhere except in the fictional star wars universe.

And you say you are enlightening people. HUH!!!

Anonymous said...

"carpetbagger jihad"......two of the dumbest, most offensive and totally ridiculous words to be spouted by Harr. southern crazy muslim extremists who wage post war mayhem on fellow southerners? carpet sales people with a chip on their shoulder?
Someone else has commented on just how offensive Harr's use of the "jihad" word is....in his context. I agree with them. It is amazing just how transparent his real racist character shines through....

Anonymous said...

The reason Vann is not letting Mangum have the information (if that is even true....), is because he is smart enough to know that mangum will give it to you and you will put it on the internet.
Dumb and Dumber, harr......

Anonymous said...

oh boy , an all important interactive flop. geee, we just cannot wait.......

Walt said...

Mangum is the perpitrator of domestic violence. First she hits, scratches and then sets fire to Milton's clothes. Then, she takes a knife to Daye, killing him. Sid and Nifong do live in a warped world.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

This is from the appropriately named Liestoppers, but it is documentation of what DA NIFONG said before any Lacrosse player was charged with rape and settles who made the case a racially charged case:

"A). Nifong's public statements indicated malice towards the lacrosse team in general and the three indicted players specifically:

1) "In this case, where you have the act of rape - - essentially a gang rape - - is bad enough in and of itself, but when it's made with racial with racial epithets against the victim, I mean, it's just absolutely unconscionable," said District Attorney Mike Nifong.
"The contempt that was shown for the victim, based on her race was totally abhorrent," Nifong said. "It adds another layer of reprehensibleness, to a crime that already reprehensible." (WTVD 3/27/06)
2) "There's a good chance if someone had spoken up and said, 'You can't do this,' it might not have happened," Nifong said. (WRAL 3/27/06)
3) "We're talking about a situation where had somebody spoken up and said, 'Wait a minute, we can't do this,' this incident might not have taken place," Nifong said. (AP 3/28/06)
4) "My reading of the report of the emergency room nurse would indicate that some type of sexual assault did in fact take place," Nifong said. (WRAL 3/29/06)
5) "The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done," District Attorney Mike Nifong said. "It makes a crime that is by its nature one of the most offensive and invasive even more so." (NBC17 3/29/06)
6) “It just seems like a shame that they are not willing to violate this seeming sacred sense of loyalty to team for loyalty to community," Nifong said on CNN on March 29. "My guess is that some of this stone wall of silence that we have seen may tend to crumble once charges begin to come out." (CNN Live 3/29/06)
7) There's been a feeling in the past that Duke students are treated differently by the court system,” Durham County District Attorney Michael Nifong says.
“There was a feeling that Duke students' daddies could buy them expensive lawyers and that they knew the right people.
“It's discouraging when people feel that way, and we try not to make that the case.” (USA Today 3/30/07)
8) “When I looked at what happened, I was appalled. I think that most people in this community are appalled," Nifong said. "I think that if Joe Cheshire weren't representing one of the people involved in this case, he might even admit that he was appalled." (WRAL 3/31/06)
9) If it's not the way it's been reported, then why are they so unwilling to tell us what, in their words, did take place that night?" Nifong told Smith on Thursday. "And one would wonder why one needs an attorney if one was not charged and had not done anything wrong." (ESPN 3/31/06)
10) “I would like to think that someone would have the human decency to call up and say, ‘What am I doing covering up for a bunch of hooligans?’” (News & Observer 4/10/07)
11) "The reason that I took this case is because this case says something about Durham that I’m not going to let be said," said Nifong. "I'm not going to allow Durham's view in the minds of the world to be a bunch of lacrosse players at Duke raping a black girl from Durham." (WRAL 4/13/06)
12) “And, I know that it looks sometimes over the course of the last few months that some of these attorneys were almost disappointed that their clients didn’t get indicted so they could be part of this spectacle here in Durham. And that’s the situation, we only indict based on our evidence we can’t indict everybody but we are entitled to present a case to the citizens of Durham whereby they can determine what occurred in this case.” (WRAL 7/17/06)

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

My previous post documents that the media early on in the phony Duke rape case concentrated on establishing the guilt of the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players, not on discrediting Crystal Mangum. It was not generally known early in the case that Crystal WAS the false accuser.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

More from the appropriately named Leistoppers:

"
B. Nifong's actions in initiating the prosecution despite a lack of evidence demonstrated both willful and malicious behavior.


1. Nifong indicted the Duke lacrosse players knowing that the accuser Crystal Mangum had given multiple contradictory stories, and that she had a history of mental illness.
2. Nifong indicted three players after Mangum identified four players as her attackers in an improper line-up procedure ordered by Nifong.
3. Nifong indicted the players with an incomplete investigation of the allegations by the Durham Police, who did not interview key witnesses and did not address contradictions in their stories.
4. Nifong encouraged the Durham PD to press ahead with the indictments, even though he told the investigator Ben Himan "we're f*cked," and took over as de facto lead investigator
5. Nifong proceeded with indictments even though he knew there was no DNA evidence linking Crystal Mangum with any of the lacrosse players.
6. Nifong indicted knowing that there was DNA on the accuser from multiple other males, indicating that if a rape had happened, other suspects should be sought.
7. Nifong indicted by going straight to the grand jury instead of arresting the suspects and having a probable cause hearing.
8. Nifong refused to examine exculpatory evidence offered by the defense attorneys and declined to meet them.
9. Nifong participated in witness intimidation and tampering involving Kim Pittman, Moez Elmostafa, and others."

And you claim DA NIFONG acted within acceptable ethical standards for a prosecutor.

You again show you are divorced from reality and are a deluded, probably schizophrenic megalomaniac.

Anonymous said...

Mangum has been convicted of crimes involving violence against other persons and property since 2002......long before the false rape story in 2006. She has a well documented undeniable history of violent acts.....including but not limited to, reckless driving, resisting arrest, trying to run over an officer, multiple DUI, charges with arson, child abuse, violence against property, simple assault against walker, and now, murder. She is violent against other people and children, against property, and against society. Since Harr has now been caught in another lie, i.e., the lie about the hour of sheer terror with beating, punching, choking, etc......please notice he is now revising his story to say Daye punched Mangum in the face "ten times". Hmmmmm, did she count? Where's the physical evidence, Harr? any physician knows that injry to the face and head almost always, I mean always, produces significant bleeding either outside or inside the body.......therefore, Mangum should have had her own blood all over her and, if not "outside" bleeding, then, where are all the bruises on her face? ("inside" bleeding and swelling?) Huh, Harr??

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"
The article begins by reporting a choice that did the entire Duke lacrosse team proud (unlike the choice of "entertainment" for that infamous party last March): "The order had come, signed by a judge, requiring that the Duke lacrosse team give DNA samples. The prosecutor was trying to identify the three players who had allegedly raped an exotic dancer at the house rented by three of the team's co-captains on the night of March 13-14. All 47 players had gathered in a classroom near the lacrosse field to hear their lawyer, Bob Ekstrand, tell them what they needed to do. Ekstrand was about to tell the players that they could appeal the order as 'overbroad,' too sweeping in its scope, when the players got up and started heading for their cars to drive downtown to the police station."

This comes from Michael Gaynor, http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/gaynor/060620.

The story ultimately comes from Newsweek.

Up in smoke goes your contentions that the DNA testing was ordered to establish the innocence of the whole team, or that the Lacrosse team was covering up for anyone.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Consult this url and be enlightened about eye witness testimony:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Dotson:

Cathy Crowell had unprotected sex with her boyfriend. To conceal that fact, she made up a story about rape and described assailants.

Based on her description, Gary Dotson was arrested, charged and convicted of rape. Cathy Crowel identified him as an assailant at her trial. She gave eyewitness testimony.

As Walt has pointed out, Crystal's eyewitness testimony was highly flawed, maybe just as flawed as Cathy Crowell's. But you believe that testimony justified indicting three innocent Caucasian men for rape, even though the alleged crime never happened.

And you think Crystal should trust you as a legal advisor? She'd be safer trusting a Cobra.

Anonymous said...

Mangum made so many contradictory statements about the false rape.....changing the time, the number of attackers (20, 9, 6, 4 and 3), changing what the attackers did, changing whether they used condoms, changing what she did or did not do after the "attack", changing her story about drinking (no, I didn't, yes, I did....), changing her story about the other dancer being an accomplice, changing her story about the time she arrived and when she left, and changing her story about having sex with other men in the week prior. Total BULLXXXX

Anonymous said...

Isn't it funny how Sidney Harr, the famous doctor, can't seem to recall what HIPPA is? My, My......one would think he has selective memory loss.....

guiowen said...

So, Sidney,
Have you talked to Crystal about changing lawyers? What did she say?
2. Have you talked to Nifong about applying for reinstatement, so he can help keep an innocent mother of three out of jail?
3. Have you talked to Kenhyderal, Malek, and you J4N colleagues about trying to get bail money?
4. Have you talked to your J4N colleagues about promulgating the truth as you see it?
5. Have you talked to your friend Professor Coleman about giving a lecture or a teach-in at Duke?

Anonymous said...

I can just see Nifong defending Mangum. Now that's entertainment, folks!

guiowen said...

Well, I read some place that Nifong is a true minister of justice. Who better, then?

Anonymous said...

There you go, Guiowen. Cline could be the second seat. What a team! Mr. Ethics, Ms. No Conscious, and Durham's true Victim-in-Residence. Hosanna....

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Where are you today?

If past behavior is any indicator, you are preparing another rehash of your last three blog posts, that Crystal was acting in self defense, that Woody Vann is in cahoots with the prosecution, that there is evidence which Woody Vann has which exonerates Crystal but which he will not show to Crystal, that Crystal is the victim of this carpetbagger jihad(the existence of which SIDNEY can not prove).

Did I leave anything out?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

I did leave out a few things.

Dr. Nichols is in cahoots with the non existent carpetbagger jihad, that Dr. Nichols falsified the autopsy report at the behest of the carpetbagger jihad, that Reginald Daye died of a misplaced endotracheal tube(one of the items SIDNEY illegally published showed that proper tube placement was documented), that Reginald Daye was once charged with assault on a female(which charge, it is stated in one of the documents SIDNEY posted, was dismissed by the DA).

Maybe you will include that although Duke settled with the Lacrosse defendants rather than defend a lawsuit against them in court, they committed no wrongdoing against them.

While you are re hashing, why not mention that you filed a frivolous lawsuit against Duke which was rather ignominiously tossed out of court, because you hoped Duke would settle with you for millions of dollars.

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to figure out who, if anybody, is left on the planet who is NOT in on the grand conspiracy fix. Let's see.......the entire media, the entire justice system, every attorney in the world, all the physicians (except one, of course....silly me....), every hospital, every employer except a certain escort service/pole bar owner, and every single white person, and every single person of color who is an oreo or its equivalent.
Did I leave anybody out? Oh, yeah, let's see.....of course, everybody who has the gall and the stupidity to disagree with the distinguished Dr. Harr....
whew........of course, we MUST remember that the j4n crew and kenny-the-king-of-cut-n-paste are devoted followers.

Anonymous said...

I am waiting to hear that Mangum has given Vann the boot. And, I am waiting to hear her get up in court and object. Oh, yeah, and I am waiting to hear her testify and be cross examined.
Anybody else willing to say that this is gonna happen when hell freezes over? I betcha a j4n tshirt that Mangum is NOT going to defend herself in court....

Man In Black said...

Anonymous asked "Where are you today?

Sid's busy flogging himself.

Anonymous said...

oooo, now THAT is an image that I most definitely do NOT want to even think about.........:)

Anonymous said...

Duke Chapel has a new Dean.....an African American....I guess that's further proof of Sidney's hypothesis that Duke is just running over with folks who sit around, trying to figure out how to destroy Mangum and, of course, himself.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @2:23 AM said: "Yet you approve of this "disgraceful practice" when it is applied to innocent Caucasian men who are wrongfully accused of raping a black woman"............ I reject your premise and, besides, there is no similarity. The bail set for them was easily attainable for these sons of affluence, privilege and entitlement. Keep in mind Crystal's bail was initially set at $1,000,000.00 and she went before a Judge on two occasions, unsuccessfully seeking to have it lowered to an amount that her friends and Family could afford. With that case, there was never an attempt to negotiate charge reductions. With them the Prosecutionhad no leverage.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"I reject your premise and, besides, there is no similarity."

Reject all you want. The bottom line is you believe innocent Caucasian men should be prosecuted for raping Crystal Mangum when no such rape took place. That hardly qualifies you as a fighter for justice.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"The bail set for them was easily attainable for these sons of affluence, privilege and entitlement."

The difference between the Duke phony rape case and the Reginald Daye stabbing case is this:

There was no justification for taking the Lacrosse players into custody and forcing them to make bail. DA NIFONG had no case, from the start.

There is probable cause to believe Crystal ended Reginald Daye's life by illegally stabbing him.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"With that case, there was never an attempt to negotiate charge reductions. With them the Prosecutionhad no leverage."

Yes it did. DA NIFONG was threatening to take them before a biased jury and have them wrongfully convicted of first degree rape and sentenced to 30 years each.

That DA NIFONG ultimately dropped the rape charge is irrelevant. He kept the sexual assault charge which would have carried the same penalty.

In any event, since the Lacrosse players were innocent from the beginning(evidence available from the beginning showed definitively no rape had taken place), they never should have been taken into custody and threatened with prosecution.

There was probable cause to believe Crystal caused Reginald Daye's death by illegally stabbing him. SIDNEY's analysis of the case is unbelievable BULLSHIT.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"The bail set for them was easily attainable for these sons of affluence, privilege and entitlement"

It is readily apparent you resent the innocent, falsely accused Caucasian Lacrosse players because they came from well off families. You resent that you are not that well off.

Did it ever occur to you that the families of the Lacrosse players earned their affluence? You seem to think you deserve such affluence even though you never worked for it.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

In case you haven't noticed, I, and I believe a lot of other people, reject your ridiculous, implausible hypothesis that the Lacrosse players were covering up for the real perpetrators.

Believe what you want. There was no evidence that anyone raped Crystal on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Are you afraid to show your face today?

You should have been ashamed of what you publish a long time ago.

Anonymous said...

Remember, kenny fella, that Nifong proceeded with an indictment of Dave Evans, the third man, AFTER he had already learned that NONE of ANY LAX player DNA was in or on Mangum. Nifong KNEW that there was clear definitive exculpatory evidence (the lab test results) BEFORE he went after Evans.
That behavior was dishonest, unethical and reprehensible.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"I reject your premise"

Not surprising since you reject the premise that innocent Caucasian men falsely accused of rape should be presumed innocent.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Correction:


"I reject your premise"

Not surprising since you reject the premise that innocent Caucasian men falsely accused of raping a black woman should be presumed innocent.

guiowen said...

I'm afraid Sidney couldn't make it to the library today. We'll have to wait another day to find out how he's getting along with Kenny, and how Crystal reacted to his plans.

Anonymous said...

Wahoo....kennyhderal is back.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @ 8:55 AM said: "This comes from Michael Gaynor"..... This is the same right-wing polemicist that recently called President Obama a "Stealth Socialist", casts doubt on whether he is a Christian and has recently said, in the matter of Obama and ACORN "Glen Beck" has it right. Well I say. in the matter of Duke LaX, Michael Gaynor has it wrong

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"'This comes from Michael Gaynor'"

You got it wrong, as usual. I also said the story ultimately comes from Newsweek.

"Well I say. in the matter of Duke LaX, Michael Gaynor has it wrong"

Who cares. In your senseless ravings, you, like Kilgo, show you know nothing about what happened in the phony Duke Rape case.

What happened is that a black woman falsely accused innocent Caucasian men of raping her. A corrupt prosecutor, looking for political advantage, stirred up racial animosity in an attempt to wrongfully convict them.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

You tried to pull a SIDNEY HARR. SIDNEY rants about Reginald Daye being charged with assault on a female. He omits, probably deliberately, to say that said charged was dismissed by the DA.

You rant and rave about Michael Gaynor. You omit to say, in my opinion deliberately, that the source of the quote was Newsweek.

Right on, KENHYDERAL. Now, go hide and pretend you are Malek Williams.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Personally, I would question the Christianity of someone who would wrongfully convict innocent men or a crime that never happened simply because of their race.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

You are really upset at the documentation that you know absolutely nothing about the Crystal's false allegations of rape against the innocent Lacrosse players.

You claim that the Lacrosse team is covering for unknown assailants who raped Crystal. What I quoted from Michael Gaynor, which ultimately comes from Newsweek, something you probably deliberately omitted to say, shows the Lacrosse players did not cover for anyone.

Except in your racist mind which relies on unreliable hearsay testimony from the completely non credible Kilgo.

Anonymous said...

Of course, Kenny, there were mystery rapists at the party! Sure! and the entire team is still, to this day, covering for them. the team all agreed, secretly, to sacrifice whoever, on their team, their teammates, Mangum might pick....as surrogates for the real mystery rapists. Reade, Collin and Dave were "chosen" by Mangum, so the team met, in secret, and all agreed that these three were just SOL and had to pay with 30 years in prison.....because the team all agreed that the mystery rapists had to be protected. Uh Huh! You betcha. And Mangum, or course, was in on the fix, too......she KNEW that the mystery rapists were not any of the guys actually AT the party (because the rape actually happened in the backyard, in the dark.....but Mangum, in cahoots with the entire team, picked three team mambers as the sacrificial lambs....to protect the mystery rapists. You see, Mangum, too wanted to proect the mystery rapists. So, that explains it all, Kenny. You are a bleepin genius!
Only one question remains....WHO were the mystery rapists?
let's vote:
Barrack Obama
Rae Evans (who we all know is lesbian)
Mike Nifong (eeeeooo, poor sister)
sidney harr
richard brodhead
scoobie doo

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

You say that Michael Gaynor got it wrong about the LaX case.

Where does your information come from?

It comes from Crystal Mangum who has multiple criminal convictions on her record, who has been thoroughly discredited as a credible witness to anything.

It comes from Kilgo who has never demonstrated he knows anything about the Lacrosse case.

You believe Kilgo because his hearsay agrees with what you have learned from Crystal.

Enough said.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous September 19, 2012 7:00 AM

You did not mention KENHYDERAL as a suspect.

KENHYDERAL claims to know Crystal personally. How personally did he know her?

Could it be that KENHYDERAL wants to convict innocent Caucasians of raping Crystal to cover up his own involvement with her.

Why doesn't KENHYHDERAL give a sample of his own DNA to see if it matches any of the DNA found on Crystal?

Anonymous said...

Ken's theory warrants more discussion.

The logical suspects for the mystery rapists are Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan.

Ken's theory explains why the DPD did not conduct a bona fide investigation and why Nifong never demanded one. They didn't want to be discovered.

Ken is indeed a genius.

Anonymous said...

Well, there you go, 7:00AM, silly me. Of course, Kenny should volunteer to give a sample. Here's why:
1. He "could" have been there, hovering the dark, as the mystery rapist
2. He is not one of those rich entitled sons of affluence, apparently.
3. He "could" have been pals, secretly, with the team members because he is a closet graduate of duke and and closet lacrosse player.
4. He likes Crystal.....and, ah ha, maybe crystal likes him
so, you are right.....anybody "could" have been the mystery rapist....because we all know that the entire team agreed to protect the mystery rapists and to sacrifice, along with crystal, their teammates

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

"[KENHYDERAL] 'could' have been pals, secretly, with the team members because he is a closet graduate of duke and and closet lacrosse player."

Brilliant!!!

It never occurred to me that KENHYDERAL himself might be the unknown Lacrosse player who told Kilgo that the assault took place.

Of course KENHYDERAL's picture did not appear in the wanted poster. If he was a "closet" Laxer, that would explain that.

Anonymous said...

According to the appropriately named Liestoppers, there was a hearing to consider reduction of Crystal's bail. The motion was denied.

The poster mentioned that Woody Vann did not mention Christena Roberts' report on the Reginald Daye autopsy.

SIDNEY HARR will claim that this shows Woody Vann is in cahoots with the prosecution and is withholding the exculpatory evidence. The more logical explanation is that Dr. Roberts' report found no flaws in Dr. Nichols' report.

I wonder why SIDNEY has not ranted and raved about this. Could it be he was uninformed about the hearing because no one wanted him present to disrupt the hearing.

Now let's hear SIDNEY rant and rave that he was kept away from the hearing because he told the truth.

HAH!!!!

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Where are you?

Lance the Intern said...

Hmmm...Information we weren't privy to before...Apparently, Mr. Daye was attempting to leave the premises when he was stabbed.
(hat tip to Anonymous @ 7:39)

Oh -- and the NC Bar is looking into Sid's actions again. Sid's response? He's asking the Bar to "ignore" his actions.

Anonymous said...

well, well, well....perhaps now we have a little bit more light and "truth"....thanks, Lance. No doubt Harr will run his mouth now......till we all want to hurl. But, it is significant to note the new information that has come out....that, according to the prosecution, Daye was leaving.....not laying on top of Mangum, trying to choke her to death.
And, sidney, bless his punkin head, is in the soup again over those last two motions....which he tried to disguise with the crappy grammar, etc. (or maybe his grammar and spelling really are that bad.......)
oh boy, let the games begin!

Anonymous said...

oh, by the way, sidney..........we all know you were LYING when you claimed you were just a courier for those last two motions.
Pants on fire, yet again, bro

Anonymous said...

"innocent mother of three"......love this description used by harr and kenny-hissy. I should think that "innocent three by this sorry excuse for a mother" is accurate....

Anonymous said...

Compared to the ranting that Sid has done, going on endlessly about his version of the self defense killing of Daye, we have actually heard very little of the prosecution's evidence and case. I am glad to see more information being disclosed by them, i.e., their statement that Daye was leaving when he was stabbed by Mangum. In some ways, I am hoping this case does go to trial so we can hear both sides in full, without the loud mouthed filter named sidney harr.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Are you hiding from the NC State Bar?

Anonymous said...

So the Bar says to sidney, don't do that. He is ok, I won't. then, he does it again......and lies all over his flop that he didn't do it again.
what else is new.....
what else are you lying about?

Anonymous said...

So typical of the racist above-the-law attitude of Sidney Harr.....recommending to the Bar they ignore his continued defiance of the law because the courts essentially threw his silliness in the trash can. The quality of the motions and the disposition of the motions has NOTHING to do with the upfront fact that Harr violated the prohibition against practicing law without a license....AGAIN.
Stupidity, they name is sidney

guiowen said...

Sidney,
Watch out! It looks like the Bar wants to send you to bed without supper once again!
Don't worry, though: I think most everyone who reads this blog understands that you didn't mean to break the law.
By the way, what's going on with you and Kenhyderal? Why won't you talk to him? Are you jealous of him, or something? I'm sure he and Crystal are just good friends.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
What's going on with you and Sidney? Why won't he communicate with you?
Do you think Sidney's jealous of you? I told him that you and CGM are bosom buddies, but certainly didn't mean to imply anything other than a pure platonic friendship.
It would be a pity if this sort of thing complicated life for the poor innocent mother of three, don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Guiowen, stop it.....I can't work if I keep LMAO!!! ;)

Anonymous said...

Mangum for DA...at least she knows how to spell harr-de-harr-harr

Anonymous said...

Betcha we are going to hear the following:
1. The Bar is in on the fix, too, and part of the conspiracy to hang Mangum and gut Nifong
2. Vann and Roberts are in cahoots with the conspiracy; that's why the Roberts report was no help, because she was paid to keep silent
3. the judge is part of the conspiracy and wouldn't let bail be lowered to keep her in jail
4. the state now says daye was leaving because they are struggling with their case and they have invented this new theory
5. it wasn't hair weaves; it was her hair....in clumps
6. daye admitted he kicked in the door to the police? wrong, the evil state is now saying this, at this time, to account for the damage
7. the media reported in a biased manner and the bar isn't really after sidney....besides, he "recommended" they drop the matter and he is sure they will.....or, it will be proof THEY are in the fix...see number one, above

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
"Both incidents involving Mangum that occurred in 2010 and 2011 are ones in which Mangum was the victim, her assailants were neither arrested nor charged..."

In regards to the 2010 incident, according to police documents Mangum scratched, punched and threw objects at Walker and told him, "I'm going to stab you, (expletive)!"

She then set fire to his clothes. Although Sid has denied this fact multiple times (even claiming that the police started the fire), Crystal has admitted to this.

In regards to the 2011 event, any person charged with a crime has a right to confront their accuser. Clearly that is not possible if the accused is dead. Therefore, it makes no sense to arrest or charge Mr. Daye. Someone with such a finely honed understanding of the law should know this, Sid.

One further note -- Perhaps if Mr. Daye had been more familiar with the 2010 incident, he wouldn't have chosen a "roommate" so....poorly.


Intern, Mangum did fight back at her ex-boyfriend, but only after he repeatedly punched her in the face to initiate the physical attack. The Police report conveniently leaves this off.

Although Crystal may have set Daye's clothes on fire in the bathtub, the Durham Police made no effort to extinguish the blaze... (That tells you something right there.)

As far as Mr. Daye's arrest, he should have been arrested the day of the incident, as there was plenty of evidence to implicate him as the abuser of Mangum. Police should have considered Mangum to be what she was... a victim of domestic violence.

And, Daye was familiar with Mangum's 2010 incident, as I believe that he first met her there. He was attracted to her in part by her media produced notoriety.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

Are you hiding from the NC State Bar?


No. Why should I? The documents I filed with the court in August 2012 were as a Pro Se petitioner. I did not file them on behalf of Ms. Mangum or anyone else.

What's the problem?

Nifong Supporter said...


guiowen said...
Sidney,
Watch out! It looks like the Bar wants to send you to bed without supper once again!
Don't worry, though: I think most everyone who reads this blog understands that you didn't mean to break the law.
By the way, what's going on with you and Kenhyderal? Why won't you talk to him? Are you jealous of him, or something? I'm sure he and Crystal are just good friends.


gui, mon ami, the fact is that I did not break the law.

I don't understand when you suggest there's a problem between me and Kenhyderal... there is none.

My time on the computer is up. Later.

Lance the Intern said...

Crystal set Reginald Daye's clothes on fire as well?
I think it's becoming harder for you to keep your "facts" straight....

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Although Crystal may have set Daye's clothes on fire in the bathtub, the Durham Police made no effort to extinguish the blaze... (That tells you something right there.)"

Yes it does. It tells us the Durham Police acted properly to call the Durham Fire Department.

That you fault the Durham police for calling the Durham Fire Department shows, once more, that your are completely divorced from reality and probably schizophrenic.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"As far as Mr. Daye's arrest, he should have been arrested the day of the incident, as there was plenty of evidence to implicate him as the abuser of Mangum."

No there wasn't.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"And, Daye was familiar with Mangum's 2010 incident, as I believe that he first met her there. He was attracted to her in part by her media produced notoriety."

Who told you that? Crystal the liar? Maybe it was Crystal's adoring fan but ignorant fan, KENHYDERAL.

Anonymous said...

This is precisely what we all expected of you, sidney.....avoidance, tap dancing and bull shit

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"No. Why should I(hide from the NC Board)? The documents I filed with the court in August 2012 were as a Pro Se petitioner. I did not file them on behalf of Ms. Mangum or anyone else."

From http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Pro+Se

"pro se (proh say) prep. Latin for "for himself". A party to a lawsuit who represents himself (acting in propria persona), is appearing in the case "pro se."

Since you are not a party to the Reginald Daye stabbing case, how can you represent anyone in the case, including yourself?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Your reply to the NC Bar that the Bar should ignore your attempts to interfere in the Reginald Daye stabbing case says to me you want to hide from the NC Bar.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"What's the problem?"

You, obviously.

guiowen said...

Sidney said:
"
I don't understand when you suggest there's a problem between me and Kenhyderal... there is none."


Kenhyderal said:
"I sent a scanned copy of the draft to Dr. Harr and asked that he confirm that "I walk the walk". For some reason, unknown to me, he will not do so."

The two of you really should try to get your stories straight -- that is, if you are talking to each other.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"gui, mon ami, the fact is that I did not break the law."

You, who do not acknowledge that you violated Federal Law regarding the confidentiality of medical records, are incapable of knowing whether or not you have broken the law.

Anonymous said...

Harr, you broke the law when you violated HIPPA, which we all know already. You broke the law when you practiced law without a license and were held accountable by the NC Bar. You never published their letter to you. I wonder why. You said you would not do this again. You lied. You did it again. Now the Bar practice committee will consider other, more serious sanctions against you. You got a warning to cease and desist the first time. Don't expect to get a pass again, pal.

kenhyderal said...

Nifong Supporter @ 12:50 PM said: "I don't understand when you suggest there's a problem between me and Kenhyderal... there is none" ............. I concur. The only place Dr. Harr and I communicate is openly on this blog. I have simply been non-plussed by his failure, on a number of matters, to back the veracity of contentions I have made in my posts and which have been called into dispute by other posters. Things of which he has knowledge of. Eg: That I am not Malek Williams, the poster that parrots my posts and that I have in fact, made cash donations towards Crystal's Bail Bond.

kenhyderal said...

Further to my last post, I applaud Dr. Harr' efforts to seek justice for Crystal. I was the person who put Dr. Harr in touch with Crystal after I had chanced upon this blog. Subsequently Crystal joined his Justice4Nifong Group

guiowen said...

So in fact all you and Sidney do is write messages on this blog. Not a very efficient arrangement if you really expect to get a poor innocent mother of three out of the clutches of the Carpetbagger Jihad.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"I have simply been non-plussed by his failure, on a number of matters, to back the veracity of contentions I have made in my posts and which have been called into dispute by other posters."

That indicates even SIDNEY does not believe in your credibility.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Further to my last post, I applaud Dr. Harr' efforts to seek justice for Crystal. I was the person who put Dr. Harr in touch with Crystal after I had chanced upon this blog. Subsequently Crystal joined his Justice4Nifong Group".

SIDNEY crusades for justice for no one. He has crusaded for injustice for a number of people.

What you boast about is not exactly something to be proud about.

Anonymous said...

Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril.

Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

Anonymous said...

LOLOL....too funny.....oh, malek, you wild thing, you.....whoever or whatever cut-n-paste ninny you are. too bleepin funny!
well, kenny, IF you sent money for her bail, I hope you realize you've been suckered.....w. c. fields was right, canada/dubai

Anonymous said...

Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

September 19, 2012 4:42 PM

KENHYDERAL, we do not believe you.

guiowen said...

Malek,
Why don't you ask those classmates, teachers, professors, etc. to contribute to the CGM bail fund? You should be able to get some 40 or 50 of them. Together with the J4N troops, you'd have 70 people, who could each contribute 2857.14.

Anonymous said...

Always remember - no white man would ever want to have sex with Crystal Mangum much less go to all the trouble of raping her.

Anonymous said...

From testimony at the Nifong hearing,,,,,the results of the testing of samples from Mangum's oral cavity, pubic combings, vagina, rectum and panties....the samples having been taken by Dr. Manly, who Kenny boy claims was an "expert".
oral cavity...at least two distinct male markers (none LAX guys)
rectum...at least five distinct male (none LAX guys)
pubic combings...at least four distinct male (none LAX guys)
pantie stains....at least five distinct male (none LAX guys)
And Mangum was/is not a prostitute.....I guess she was just real friendly with a bunch of fellows......and didn't feel friendly toward the LAX guys....

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, "distinct" means different males.....so, for example, the panties had stains from a minimum of five different males.

Anonymous said...

The "innocent mother of three".......was, indeed, a real friendly female........;)

Anonymous said...

In anticipation of Kenny's view that the DNA samples from the multiple males could have been there "a long time"...meaning Mangum could have had sexual contact with multiple males, in a kind of serial friendliness, that extended for a longer period.....somehow making her less likely to be "selling it"........
please remember that her underwear had at least five different male stain samples on it. If she was not being intimate with multiple partners on a fairly regular basis, then I guess she could, perhaps, be described as somebody who wasn't very keen on personal hygiene.

Anonymous said...

the "innocent mother of three"......what exactly is she innocent of?
1. Lying about the rapes ..guilty
2. Lying about starting fires...guilty
3. NINE convictions since 2002...guilty
4. Lying about her self defense claim as a basis for killing Daye...undetermined...TBD

....just to name a few guilty versus innocent determinations for Mangum.
Sooooo, the "innocent mother of three"???? Hardly...

Anonymous said...

Dont you just love Kenny's phrase, which he likely stole from somebody else,.....the "sons of affluence". I would like to point out that more than half the men on the LAX team were at Duke on athletic scholarships and, of those who were there on athletic scholarships, the overwhelming majority came from families that were and are most definitely NOT affluent. Interesting, isn't it, that Mangum just happened to pick Seligmann and Evans.....whose places of residence were in upscale counties in their states. She KNEW who to pick and, if we also consider her statements about "gonna make me some money off those white boys".....then, it figures she picked "white boys" with significant ability to pay her off. To describe the team as "sons of affluence" is incorrect....given that many of them were not from wealthy families. Kenny is right, though, Mangum did pick out the guys, coincidence or not, who had the bucks to pay her off. Funny, too, how her identifications changed over time. by the way, there were articles all over the media about the LAX team members, their backgrounds, where they came from, etc.
Mangum's choice of rapists backfired on her. She thought she had picked three good shakedown candidates. Wrong. She picked three innocent men who had the resources and courage to fight back.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous September 20, 2012 6:50 AM:

If I may offer a correction, KENHYDERAL's view was that the unidentified DNA on Crystal came from unidentified non-player party attendees and was deposited on Crystal on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

When confronted with the truth that forensic testing of the rape kit showed definitively that no DNA was deposited on Crystal on the night of 13/14 March, KENHYDERAL retorts that the tests were probably wrong, although he can not give a credible explanation why they were wrong.

KENHYDERAL, if you are reading this, I said you can not give a CREDIBLE explanation as to why the tests were wrong. Speculation and conjecture based on the premise that someone did rape Crystal is not an explanation of anything.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, poster 6:50....I appreciated reading your comment. What I am speaking to, with the factual report of what was found in and on Mangum, from the rape kit samples done by Manly, is proof that Mangum LIED when she said she had had sex with only one male (other than her rapists) in the past week. For Kenny to claim that all these samples, from multiple males (including the then current boyfriend) ALL occured more than one week prior to the fake rape.....and thus supporting her story that she had been only having sex with one man the week prior.....is total nonsense. To believe that story, you would have to believe that Mangum did not bathe, douche, change her underwear, brush her teeth or otherwise clean herself for more than seven days prior to the false rape claim. And, of course, you would have to believe that she was just real friendly.....and not selling it.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about you guys, but where I come from, any woman with that many intimate contacts and residue is most definitely selling it. Walks, quacks, lays eggs, looks like a duck....yeah, I figure it's a duck. Of course, to Sidney Harr, it's anteater.