Tuesday, April 30, 2013

The North Carolina justice system is broken, corrupted, and hijacked!



PART ONE


PART TWO


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Instead of “equal justice for all,” North Carolina follows a tenet of “selective justice based on Class and Color.” This is manifested by the fact that it is broken, corrupted, and hijacked.
That the system is broken is undeniable in lieu of the numerous incidents of innocent individuals being unjustly incarcerated for months and years, only later to be exonerated. Of few of North Carolina’s wrongly incarcerated include Erick Daniels, James Arthur Johnson, Floyd Brown, Alan Gell, Carletta Alston, and Kenneth Kagonyera.

Distinguished UNC-Chapel Hill law professor Rich Rosen, in a recent paper, cited that the Tar Heel state lagged only behind the states of Illinois and Louisiana in the number of death row inmates found later to be innocent of committing capital crimes.

Of those innocents who have been wrongfully sentenced to death or life include Darryl Hunt, Glen Edward Chapman, Levon “Bo” Jones, Gregory Taylor, and Joseph Sledge… all of whom have been deprived of precious decades of freedom… lost years in the prime of their lives for which no amount of money can compensate.

That the system is corrupted is plainly evidenced by the facts surrounding the trumped up criminal charges against Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser Crystal Mangum. Incarcerated for 689 days prior to making bond to await trial for first degree murder in the death of her boyfriend Reginald Daye, Ms. Mangum was the true victim of a vendetta prosecution as payback for her role in the Duke Lacrosse case.

The events surrounding Daye’s death clearly show that Mangum was physically assaulted in a domestic violence incident and that she stabbed Daye in self-defense. Facts point out that the prosecutors, in charging Mangum in Daye’s death, used a false and fraudulent autopsy report produced by the North Carolina Deputy Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Clay Nichols.

Discrepancies in the medical findings are readily apparent between the autopsy report and all of the other medical records, including the operative report, orthopedic consultation
report, EMS records and other documents found in prosecution discovery.

Comparisons can be made on the following directory which includes the autopsy report as well as other medical records. Clicking the “Notation” button will highlight important passages. Clicking the “Clear notes” button will return to the previous directory where another selection can be made. After completion of viewing the documents, click the “Proceed” button to continue with the flog.

Another problem with the autopsy report is its conclusion that Daye died due to “complications of a stab wound to the chest.” This is not merely misleading or disingenuous, but an outright lie… but a lie that Prosecutor Kelly Gauger required in order to charge Crystal Mangum with murder following Daye’s death. No nexus is presented by Dr. Nichols between the stab wound and Daye’s death.

All indications are that the emergency surgery, for the wound that was not considered to be life-threatening, went well with Reginald Daye’s prognosis for a full recovery.

Dr. Nichols conveniently omitted the events that contributed to Daye’s death that included delirium tremens, an esophageal intubation that precipitated cardiac arrest and brain death, a weeklong comatose state, and the elective removal from life support by the medical staff at Duke University Hospital that resulted in Daye’s demise.

The autopsy report can be compared with other medical records and documents in order to support the premise that the true cause of Daye’s death had nothing to do with the stab wound, but rather the errantly placed endotracheal tube.

That the North Carolina justice system has been hijacked is realized by the fact that the mainstream media, politicians, civil rights organization, and community leaders, despite having full knowledge of the significant problems with the autopsy report and prosecution’s case against Mangum, have elected to remain mute and idle… acting as enablers or conspirators after the fact. No one has Nifongian courage to challenge the blatant and disparate legal mistreatment of Crystal Mangum by the state.

This is the same thing that happened to then Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong six years ago when he prosecuted the Duke Lacrosse case. The state worked with the media in disparaging Mr. Nifong and raining in public contempt against a man who was merely doing his job, but in a dedicated and independent manner.

The subsequent persecution of Mr. Nifong pulled a shroud over the state’s justice system, and it is therefore no wonder that Dr. Clay Nichols would rather commit a criminal act than go against the wishes of the Powers-That-Be… those who have stolen from Tar Heelians the reins of justice.

North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper and former Governor Bev Perdue were made aware of allegations of fraudulence in the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols. The state’s Medical Board was notified about Dr. Nichols’ fabricated autopsy report and has determined not to take action against him. The North Carolina State Bar received complaints against Durham Prosecutors Gauger and Charlene Coggins-Franks and it, likewise, decided not to proceed.

Currently North Carolina is a state where those in positions of power and those with a voice feel compromised because of the example made of Mr. Nifong. The State, the media, and even the defense attorneys for Mangum have as their number one priority to protect the medical examiner and Duke University Hospital… even if it means an unlawful felony conviction and years of imprisonment for an innocent African American mother of three… Mangum.

All avenues at the state level to rectify the injustice against Mangum have been extensive and have been exhausted. It is time for the Federal government to get involved because the state is the problem.

Consider the following for example: this state absolutely adores former Senator Jesse Helms, an unrepentant racist. The media refers to him in glowing terms while ignoring his bigoted past… Congresswoman Renee Elmers wants to name a Federal Building in downtown Raleigh after him. Not only that, but the General Assembly nearly unanimously paid tribute to him (one negative vote), however, this same body cannot drum up enough votes to grant a pardon to former Governor William Wood Holden who had the audacity to confront the Ku Klux Klan and prevent its lynching of African Americans in the 19th century.

Furthermore the state is tossing out the Racial Justice Act and rushing forward to actions necessary to commence executions of the African American majority of death row inmates.

The case against Crystal Mangum is clearly one that represents the state’s justice system of one which acts selectively based on Class and Color.

Lady Justice is demanding that the Federal government intercede on behalf of the defendant, and justice itself. 

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Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Ah, gotcha. that's helpful information. I would assume that Mangum will claim that the broken down door, the hair, the intoxication of Daye....all add up in support of her claim of self defense. If I were sitting on the jury, I would ponder that evidence....and weigh it against stabbing, when she could have fled, her behavior after she fled, her intoxication, and....most important....the complete lack of any physical evidence that he hit her, or choked her, etc. Kinda hard to claim he was beating the crap out of her when all she had was a tiny little pit of a mark on her face.......that could easily be there for a thousand reasons. Manslaughter looms large.......


The question is how is the prosecution going to explain the locked bathroom door being busted down. How is the prosecution going to explain clumps of Mangum's hair on the floor. What is the motive that Mangum would have for allegedly "stealing" two cashier's checks that she could not convert? What was her motive for stabbing Daye?

Face it, the prosecution doesn't have a case and I would be shocked if it has the guts to even enter the courtroom with such nonsense.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Just keeping my fingers crossed that Holmes has the cajones to manage Mangum....i.e., keep her the hell away from Harr till justice is served. Her only chance, now, is to place herself in the hands of a competent attorney and to keep herself isolated from wingnut Harr. If she violates what I am certain are Holmes clear instructions, and communicates with Harr, then I would bet Holmes will be the fourth lawyer to quit her case.
My gut tells me Mangum is scared stiff about her options and chances. She better pay attention to Holmes.


It's all irrelevant with respect to the attorney as the prosecution has no case and will probably dismiss the charges unless Holmes is able to force Mangum into accepting a plea deal for time served... (the prosecution's best shot).

Anonymous said...

same old bull. same old BULL.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The subsequent persecution of Mr. Nifong pulled a shroud over the state’s justice system".

How?

Anonymous said...

How is Mangum going to explain why she didn't have a mark on her after this so-called hour of sheer terror...beating, choking, punching? How is she going to explaint THAT, Sidney? How is Mangum going to explain why she didn't run out of the apartment when, by her OWN account, she had the chance to do so? How is she going to explain THAT, sidney? How is she going to explain that she, terrified and fleeing for her life from a mad man, happened to grab her purse? Gee, just what I am going to do, sidney........get my self beaten to a pulp (with no injuries) for an hour, stab a man.......and then pick up my purse as a run. Of all the stupid lies you have tried to promote, the nonsense that she did this in self defense is the biggest lie of all? Nobody, running in terror for their own life, picks up their purse. You think you are going to be beaten to death.......you stab your attacker and you RUN, screaming bloody murder to the nearest door, bang on it, yell your head off. You do NOT pick up your purse, go to the very place where your child is (putting the child at risk of violence from the man you are not sure could be following you), and tell the CHILD to call 911. She passed other apartment doors, several in fact, sidney. Stupid, sidney, stupid. You really think a jury is going to buy this bullshit about a wild beating when she had no injuries?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The events surrounding Daye’s death clearly show that Mangum was physically assaulted in a domestic violence incident and that she stabbed Daye in self-defense."

No they don't.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser Crystal Mangum"

You mean Duke Lacrosse/false acuser Crysta;l Mangum.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Discrepancies in the medical findings are readily apparent between the autopsy report and all of the other medical records, including the operative report, orthopedic consultation report, EMS records and other documents found in prosecution discovery."

No they aren't

Anonymous said...

No Sidney. Keep lying. It is what you do best. Liar

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Another problem with the autopsy report is its conclusion that Daye died due to “complications of a stab wound to the chest.” This is not merely misleading or disingenuous, but an outright lie"

No its not.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Dr. Nichols conveniently omitted the events that contributed to Daye’s death that included delirium tremens, an esophageal intubation that precipitated cardiac arrest and brain death, a weeklong comatose state, and the elective removal from life support by the medical staff at Duke University Hospital that resulted in Daye’s demise.

None of that has been established as fact. The medical record SIDNEY illegally accessed and posted document that the endotracheal tube had been properly placed.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Dr. Nichols conveniently omitted the events that contributed to Daye’s death".

These events to which SIDNEY refers have not been documented as fact.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"This is the same thing that happened to then Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong six years ago when he prosecuted the Duke Lacrosse case(hijacking of the NC Justice system)."

Boy are you completely disconnected from reality.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The subsequent persecution of Mr. Nifong pulled a shroud over the state’s justice system".

DA NIFONG wrongfully prosecuted three innocent men for a rape which did not happen. SIDNEY's concept of justice is that they should have been wrongfully convicted because the accuser was Black.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"All avenues at the state level to rectify the injustice against Mangum have been extensive and have been exhausted."

That is because no injustice has been perpetrated against Crystal.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"It is time for the Federal government to get involved because the state is the problem."

Here we go. SIDNEY is preparing to allege that the non existent carpetbagger jihad has co opted the entire Federal Government.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Lady Justice is demanding that the Federal government intercede on behalf of the defendant, and justice itself."

No. SIDNEY HARR "is demanding that the Federal government intercede on behalf of the defendant."

Anonymous said...

Sid,

Where is the flog for the April 6 post? You should finish that post before going to to something else.

Walt said...

Another fail by Sid, the kidder. He ignores the facts that don't support his hypothesis. He ignores the law that doesn't support his hypothesis. Not the way you persuade Sid, not the way to persuade.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

"The remaining $2 million will go to a fund for use on various projects. The incoming dean, Yale University professor Kelly Brownell, wants to enhance the Duke in D.C. program and build programs that extend Duke’s expertise to legislators and other policymakers, the university said in a news release.

The school, named for Terry Sanford – former North Carolina governor, senator and Duke president – includes programs on child and family policy, national security, international development and other issues. The public policy major is among the most popular at Duke."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04/30/2861022/duke-university-gets-10-million.html

No wonder this nation and state is so screwed up.

Anonymous said...

Picture of Duke today:

One of the heads of the universal health care program raping his five year old male adopted child from a different country of a different color on the internet and soliciting other men across the nation to join him in his crimes while Duke pushes public policy on the USA citizens and foreign countries as it sits idly by while awaiting the latest coverup scam and how their ploy to make everyone else look guilty except for them for its more recent possible murder and exploitation of a male of color, and abuse through the justice system of a woman of color who they accuse of false rape allegations when they are the ones whose nurse backed and supported the rape allegations to begin with.

That is just one example of many other similar examples of Duke today.

Anonymous said...

Crystal Mangum is the anti-viagra.No white man would ever want to have sex with her.Stick the needle in her eye.

Anonymous said...

yep, now we have Holmes in on the fix, too...........sure, sidney.

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr is nothing but a pathetic little man, running his mouth, trying to get noticed. That's all he has ever been. Just another placard waving user, trying to get another free ride. Just another liar.
Mangum will pay for what she did, one way or the other. She took Reginald Daye's life and she will pay. Self defense, my elbow.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous May 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM:

How do you feel about the five year old who was raped by one of the Duke Universal Health Care leaders?

Anonymous said...

Frank Lombard was a professor at Duke University, and did not work at the medical center.
The lack of media coverage states a great deal more about the left-leaning media, and their unwillingness to identify someone of their own 'ilk' (Lombard is openly gay) as inappropriate to be an adoptive parent.
It also provides an example of the correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, something the left-leaning media is also unwilling to admit.

Anonymous said...

What about one of the cops raping someone in Georgia? What about the Duke's NC TIP instructor's recent arrest for pedophilia type activities? The list goes on.

Anonymous said...

Oh, good lord.....now sidney can claim that he has a raging bigot as one of his fans....and an ignorant one, too. Hooray!! Hey, wingnut, there is NO correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia. In fact, sweet pea, the FBI recently released crime stats showing that 97.3% of child molestations/acts of pedophilia and child enslavement are carried out by HETEROSEXUAL MALES. Prove your statement that there is a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia or shut up, bigot. By the way, the there was, in fact, extensive media coverage of the case involving a young black male who was adopted by a sick pervert who was on staff at Duke.
Prove your claims or take your ignorant bigotry someplace else.

Anonymous said...

Amen, poster. Amen. Sidney can be proud that he has attracted another bigot.....to join the ranks with Victoria Peterson. Nice going, sidney. You are such a class guy.

Anonymous said...

oooo, is it mistrail recluse again? goody, we can all enjoy more run-on sentences that make no sense.

Anonymous said...

The last I heard on the Lombard case was a lawyer from Durham was defending him in another state.

This same lawyer also had plans to run for a judgeship in Durham after the trail was completed from what I remember reading.

What happened with that case, Lombard, and the lawyer defending him?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
How is Mangum going to explain why she didn't have a mark on her after this so-called hour of sheer terror...beating, choking, punching? How is she going to explaint THAT, Sidney? How is Mangum going to explain why she didn't run out of the apartment when, by her OWN account, she had the chance to do so? How is she going to explain THAT, sidney? How is she going to explain that she, terrified and fleeing for her life from a mad man, happened to grab her purse? Gee, just what I am going to do, sidney........get my self beaten to a pulp (with no injuries) for an hour, stab a man.......and then pick up my purse as a run. Of all the stupid lies you have tried to promote, the nonsense that she did this in self defense is the biggest lie of all? Nobody, running in terror for their own life, picks up their purse. You think you are going to be beaten to death.......you stab your attacker and you RUN, screaming bloody murder to the nearest door, bang on it, yell your head off. You do NOT pick up your purse, go to the very place where your child is (putting the child at risk of violence from the man you are not sure could be following you), and tell the CHILD to call 911. She passed other apartment doors, several in fact, sidney. Stupid, sidney, stupid. You really think a jury is going to buy this bullshit about a wild beating when she had no injuries?


You're ignoring the fact that clumps of her hair were found at the scene. Also, there is visual documentation in the photographs of puncture-excoriations to the face and swelling to the left side of her face. Her face does not need to be battered to the extent of Stephanie Nickerson to prove domestic violence. Face it, some men have been arrested for assault on a female when the alleged victims had no physical findings!

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Sid,

Where is the flog for the April 6 post? You should finish that post before going to to something else.


Good question! As a matter of fact, after finishing this flog I immediately went back to work on the flog of April 6th. In that one I produced the vog (video version) first. I have found that it's probably much easier to convert the other way around... from a flog to a vog. Anyway, the flog to the April 6th post should be completed soon, and I'll post it as a new entry. It contains not only interactive documents but much more additional material, as there are limitations with the length of video formats.

Anonymous said...

Frank Lombard pled guilty to Sexual Exploitation of a Minor and has already been sentenced. Contrary to what the poster implied, Duke was actually very instrumental in the identification and eventual arrest of this creep. Get your facts straight, poster.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Lady Justice is demanding that the Federal government intercede on behalf of the defendant, and justice itself."

No. SIDNEY HARR "is demanding that the Federal government intercede on behalf of the defendant."


Lady Justice and I are close.

Anonymous said...

No, there is no such evidence in the photographs, sidney. Nice try.....another lie.
You said Daye beat, choked, and punched sister for "an hour of sheer terror". wow, she has a tiny mark on her left cheek that she could easily have done herself. And, no, no swelling is evident at all........and certain no buising, contusions, blood, etc, indicative of any such beating. But, nice try, sidney....keep lying

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr is nothing but a pathetic little man, running his mouth, trying to get noticed. That's all he has ever been. Just another placard waving user, trying to get another free ride. Just another liar.
Mangum will pay for what she did, one way or the other. She took Reginald Daye's life and she will pay. Self defense, my elbow.


You need to get your facts straight. Mangum is not responsible for Daye's death as she was not the one to intubate him... nor was she the one who removed him from life support.

As far as me, I'm trying to bring attention to injustice in the state. I am the ultimate lobbyist for equal justice for all Tar Heelians. That includes YOU (if you're a resident of North Carolina)!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Frank Lombard pled guilty to Sexual Exploitation of a Minor and has already been sentenced. Contrary to what the poster implied, Duke was actually very instrumental in the identification and eventual arrest of this creep. Get your facts straight, poster.

You have a problem don't you with anyone who says anything negative about Duke, even if they are simply questioning what they read in the news?

So what are the facts you want to be made straight poster?

And where are your references for these facts you will give if you do not mind.

Anonymous said...

Nine convictions, sidney....NINE. Gonna be a tenth soon.

Anonymous said...

Oh, are you a registered lobbyist, pal? interesting..... lobbyists are required to abide by certain regulations. We would all be interesting in knowning about your career as a registered lobbyist

Anonymous said...

Sad little sidney. apparently can't read. State v. Welch, sidney. State v. Welch.

Anonymous said...

"FBI Updates

North Carolina Man Sentenced to 327 Months in Prison for Producing Child Pornography

U.S. Attorney’s Office March 29, 2010

District of Columbia (202) 514-7566

WASHINGTON—Frank Lombard, 43, of Durham, North Carolina, was sentenced today in U.S. District Court to 327 months in prison for producing child pornography, announced U.S. Attorney Ronald C. Machen Jr., Metropolitan Police Department Chief Cathy L. Lanier, and Shawn Henry, Assistant Director of the FBI’s Washington Field Office. Lombard, a former Duke University employee who pled guilty on December 17, 2009, to sexual exploitation of a minor, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler, who also ordered that Lombard serve a lifetime period of supervised release upon completion of his prison sentence, during which time he will be required to register as a sex offender.

According to the Statement of the Offense filed in conjunction with the plea agreement, Lombard admitted to streaming a live pornographic image of himself and his prepubescent adopted son to another Internet user via a webcam in August 2007, evidence of which was found during a search of Lombard’s Durham, North Carolina home pursuant to a federal search warrant on June 24, 2009. Lombard also admitted that during a June 24, 2009, Internet chat session with an undercover police officer, he invited that officer to fly to Durham, North Carolina, in order to have sexual contact with his adopted son. At the time of Lombard’s June 24, 2009, arrest, child pornography materials were found in his home, and he admitted to law enforcement agents that he had engaged in sexual contact with his adopted son.

This case was brought as part of Project Safe Childhood and the FBI/MPD Child Exploitation Task Force. In February 2006, the Attorney General created Project Safe Childhood, a nationwide initiative designed to protect children from online exploitation and abuse. Led by U.S. Attorney’s Offices, Project Safe Childhood marshals federal, state, and local resources to better locate, apprehend, and prosecute individuals who exploit children via the Internet, as well as identify and rescue victims. For more information about Project Safe Childhood, please visit www.projectsafechildhood.gov.

In announcing the sentence, U.S. Attorney Machen, MPD Chief Lanier, and FBI Assistant Director Henry commended the outstanding efforts and coordination of the FBI/MPD Child Exploitation Task Force, Washington Metropolitan Police Department Detective Timothy Palchak, North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation Special Agent E. Michael Smith, Jr., and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of North Carolina. They also praised the work of Assistant U.S. Attorney Keith A. Becker, from the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, who prosecuted this case."



Nonquoted question: How was Duke instrumental in Lombard's arrest and sentencing?

Anonymous said...

Answer: It was Duke technicians who worked with LEOs to identify his crimes. He was using Duke equipment/access as well as his home computer(s). Duke took immediate action and aggressively participated in the full investigation and disclosure.......

Anonymous said...

I'd like to know the poster's point of bringing up Frank Lombard and Duke. Care to explain to us just exactly what point you are trying to make?

Anonymous said...

Come on sidney. Tell us all exactly when Mangum is going to gain her full release, with dropped charges? We can't wait...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Answer: It was Duke technicians who worked with LEOs to identify his crimes. He was using Duke equipment/access as well as his home computer(s). Duke took immediate action and aggressively participated in the full investigation and disclosure.......

May 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Thank you for answering.

Than why are people angry about others talking about it if Duke was the ones who identified the problem as you say? Where do you find that information? I read some quy in prison was an informer of the fact that he saw the abuse happening on-line.

Why did Lombard think he could use Duke's access and computers to commit such criminal acts?

guiowen said...

Sidney,
Some moths ago, I suggested that, if you were unhappy with the NC justice system, you should go to the US Justice Department. I specifically suggested you go to Eric Holder. For this, your enforcer accused me of bullying you, an opinion in which you concurred.
Now you're running around, explaining how you have to go to the Feds because the NC system is "broken" or something. Perhaps you're bullying yourself?

Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...

Take the Frank Lombard discussion to a blog devoted to Frank Lombard or wait for Sid to post an entry regarding Frank Lombard.

Otherwise, you're a troll.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"

You're ignoring the fact that clumps of her hair were found at the scene. Also, there is visual documentation in the photographs of puncture-excoriations to the face and swelling to the left side of her face. Her face does not need to be battered to the extent of Stephanie Nickerson to prove domestic violence. Face it, some men have been arrested for assault on a female when the alleged victims had no physical findings! "

Not when it was alleged that their was physical evidence of the beating and in truth there was none.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Good question! As a matter of fact, after finishing this flog I immediately went back to work on the flog of April 6th. In that one I produced the vog (video version) first. I have found that it's probably much easier to convert the other way around... from a flog to a vog. Anyway, the flog to the April 6th post should be completed soon, and I'll post it as a new entry. It contains not only interactive documents but much more additional material, as there are limitations with the length of video formats."

SIDNEY is going to give us another iteration of, the carpetbagger jihad hs corrupted everything and everyone but me.

Anonymous said...

Is there a blog dedicated to Lombard?

If not, I think here is as good as place as any to discuss the justice system in regard to this Duke case, as it would probably have been discussed quite a bit if it had been tried in Durham. You are upset by this? Why?


Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Lady Justice and I are close."

Boy are you deluded.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Lady Justice and I are close."

If so, she is after you to demand an accounting of why you have so maliciously misrepresented her.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"

You need to get your facts straight. Mangum is not responsible for Daye's death..."

Yes she was. It remains to be determined if she was riminally responsible. Read up on what Walyt has told you. Crystal has to prove in court it was self defense.

"as she was not the one to intubate him... nor was she the one who removed him from life support."

Irrelevant, as it has been documented Mr. Daye was properly intubated, and Mr. Daye became brain dead as a complication of the Medical treatment necessitated by them Crystal inflicted stab wound.

As far as me, I'm trying to bring attention to injustice in the state. I am the ultimate lobbyist for equal justice for all Tar Heelians. That includes YOU (if you're a resident of North Carolina)!

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"As far as me, I'm trying to bring attention to injustice in the state. I am the ultimate lobbyist for equal justice for all Tar Heelians. That includes YOU (if you're a resident of North Carolina)!"

That is obviously false because what you have been trying to attract attention to, the prosecution of corrupt DA NIFONG and the crimes of Crystal, are not injustice.

Anonymous said...


Sidney said:

"Lady Justice and I are close."

If that is true, you should ask her why she exonerated the Duke lacrosse players, saw to it that they received millions of dollars in damages, removed Mike Nifong from office and then later disbarred and imprisoned him for contempt of court, dismissed your lawsuit against Duke and slapped you upside your head (twice) for engaging in the unauthorized practice of law.

Pay close attention to what she says. You may be enlightened.

Break the Conspiracy said...

Sidney: Mangum is not responsible for Daye's death as she was not the one to intubate him...nor was she the one who removed him from life support.

Sidney,

I encourage you to make comments that are responsive to information provided by your readers. When you repeatedly appear to ignore evidence and/or the law that is inconsistent with your conclusion, the naysayers conclude that you are either extraordinarily dishonest or unbelievably stupid. In either case, people do not take you seriously.

You know from Walt's comments and your own research that State v Welch is the governing case. As a result, you know that without an intervening cause, according to the law, Mangum IS legally responsible for Daye's death. You know from Walt's comments and your own reading of that decision that neither medical malpractice nor a decision to end medical treatment is an intervening cause.

I recognize that you do not believe the law is equitable and that a defendant should not be responsible for medical mistakes or a decision to remove life support. Mangum is not well served by relying on what you think is fair. Your personal opinion is far less important than the law. The DA is not likely to drop charges that are supported by a longstanding law because you believe the law is unfair. A strategy that relies on jury nullification (asking jurors to disregard the law) cannot assume charges will be dismissed and entails significant risk when the case goes to trial.

In earlier posts, you suggested delirium tremens as an intervening cause.

You must show that Daye's onset of delirium tremens was an intervening cause as defined in the law. I do not suggest this analysis is straightforward. In order to do so, you must demonstrate that it was independent of the stab wound. For example, I understand that an infection resulting from the stab wound could have affected Daye and brought on or worsened the condition. If so, it likely would not legally be an intervening cause. You must establish that infection was not the cause of nor a contributor to the delirium tremens.

This is the argument on which you must concentrate to argue that Mangum is not legally responsible for the death.

You frequently spend far too little time arguing the critical aspects of a case because you concentrate on what is unimportant or irrelevant. If you persist, I will conclude the naysayers are correct, and we can begin to debate which explanation is accurate.

Anonymous said...

The point is that it is does not matter what sidney harr thinks and it does not matter how he tries to twist the truth into a lie that fits his worldview. Harr has never let the truth get in his way. We all know what kind of person he is.......and it is clear that he is NOT interested in Mangum, only himself.

Anonymous said...

Walt is correct. Harr is a racist self-promoting tired old man who wants nothing more than to use Mangum as a stage to stand on....while he spreads his nonsense about the intergalactic conspiracy against the "innocent African American mother of three".
Put on your little yellow t-shirt, wear your secret decoder ring, wave your little sign, and spout your fantasies about crop circles, black helicopters, chemtrails, and the imperial wizard of the BeatSiterKlan, Rae Evans.

Walt said...

" Anonymous said...
Walt is correct. Harr is a racist...."


Please note, I have never accused Sid of being a racist. In fact, I have written here before and I will do so now, I do not think he is a racist. Sid is wrong about many things and he is using Crystal to pursue his own agenda, but that does not make him a racist.

Walt-in-Durham

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
" Anonymous said...
Walt is correct. Harr is a racist...."

Please note, I have never accused Sid of being a racist. In fact, I have written here before and I will do so now, I do not think he is a racist. Sid is wrong about many things and he is using Crystal to pursue his own agenda, but that does not make him a racist.

Walt-in-Durham


Hey, Walt.

Thanks for making the clarification for the previous commenter. I appreciate it, and of course, I am most certainly not a racist. Unfortunately I do believe that race plays a role in the justice system, but the cause for which I fight is color-blind.

As far as Crystal goes, she had representation for nearly a year on the trumped up murder charge and her attorney had done nothing for her. Although I wrote about the injustice in her case, I only got heavily involved after she requested my assistance and I had a chance to study the prosecution discovery.

Being a physician, and knowing that the autopsy report is fraudulent, I feel it my civic duty to do something about it, and not, as Governor McCrory would say, "Sit on my butt and do nothing."

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...

Sidney said:

"Lady Justice and I are close."

If that is true, you should ask her why she exonerated the Duke lacrosse players, saw to it that they received millions of dollars in damages, removed Mike Nifong from office and then later disbarred and imprisoned him for contempt of court, dismissed your lawsuit against Duke and slapped you upside your head (twice) for engaging in the unauthorized practice of law.

Pay close attention to what she says. You may be enlightened.


First Lady Justice did not exonerate the Duke Lacrosse defendants... A.G. Roy Cooper did.
Secondly, she had nothing to do with Duke University throwing away $60 mil by giving it to the defendants at the behest of Joe Cheshire and Co.
Thirdly, the State forced Mike Nifong from office and disbarred him... not Lady Justice.
Fourthly, Judge Osmond Smith, prejudicial against Nifong from the start, was responsible for the ridiculous jail sentence for contempt of court... an outrage.
And Fifthly, the North Carolina Justice system slapped Lady Justice upside her head when I was denied my day in court against Duke. The State Bar injunctions against me were mere trivia.

Nifong Supporter said...


Hey, Break.

Will digest your suggestions and get back. Time on the computer is about to run out. Also need to complete the flog of April 6th.

Anonymous said...

Nah, Sid, it was all Justice. She rewarded the people who were on the right side of the law and punished the ones that weren't. She's a tough old girl. That's why you are having such a hard time trying to beat her.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"As far as Crystal goes, she had representation for nearly a year on the trumped up murder charge and her attorney had done nothing for her. Although I wrote about the injustice in her case, I only got heavily involved after she requested my assistance and I had a chance to study the prosecution discovery."

What trumped up murder charge?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Being a physician, and knowing that the autopsy report is fraudulent, I feel it my civic duty to do something about it".

You being a physician is irrelevant.

You have no residency training, no board certification, no training in pathology, no training in surgery, which adds up to you have no qualifications to determine whether or not the autopsy report is fraudulent.

Dr.Anonymous

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"First Lady Justice did not exonerate the Duke Lacrosse defendants... A.G. Roy Cooper did."

What exonerated the falsely accused Duke Lacrosse players was the FACT that no crime had happened.

"Secondly, she had nothing to do with Duke University throwing away $60 mil by giving it to the defendants at the behest of Joe Cheshire and Co."

Agreed Lady Justice had nothing to do with that. Why Duke paid off the Lacrosse players was they could not defend against any lawsuit they might have filed. It was a de facto admission of wrongdoing on Duke's part. And you are bitterly resentful because you had dreams of Duke settling with you for $20 million.

"Thirdly, the State forced Mike Nifong from office and disbarred him... not Lady Justice."

What forced corrupt DA NIFONG from office was that it was established by overwhelming evidence that he had conducted a deliberate wrongful malicious prosecution of innocent men."

"Fourthly, Judge Osmond Smith, prejudicial against Nifong from the start, was responsible for the ridiculous jail sentence for contempt of court... an outrage."

What got corrupt DA NIFONG a criminal conviction and a jail sentence was proof beyond a reasonable doubt he had withheld exculpatory evidence from the defendants and then lied about it in court.

"And Fifthly, the North Carolina Justice system slapped Lady Justice upside her head when I was denied my day in court against Duke."

You did not get your day in court because it was obvious from the start you had filed a frivolous non meritorious lawsuit against Duke."

"The State Bar injunctions against me were mere trivia."

This from SIDNEY who boasted loud and long he would humiliate the NC State Bar.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Time on the computer is about to run out."

Thank the Lord for small favors.

Anonymous said...

Walt with respect, I disagree with you about Sidney Harr and whether he is a racist. Sidney views the world as white people who are evil privileged oppressors and black people who are helpless innocent victims of oppression. That is the essence of racism and it is offensive to all of us. Persons of color are not, as a race, helpless victims with no character, no brains, no will and no desire. Whites are not ,as a race, evil controlling ruthless bastards. Sure there are exceptions that lend credence to every ignorant racial stereotype. But sid's problem, which, is driven by deep racial hatred, is that he is color blind........he sees nothing but color......and misses the truth. I believe and his actions prove that he is a hard core racist who is using Mangum to her peril.

A lawyer said...

Dr. Harr:

For a long time, some of the commenters here have been posting about the decision in State v. Welch. I have never seen you respond.

Have you read that case? If not, it's here:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nc-court-of-appeals/1347497.html

If you have read the case, do you have any comment on how it affects your theories about how Ms. Mangum should be defended from the murder charge?

Anonymous said...

How does the right to a fair and speedy trail theory play into the trying of this case? Is that an actual right that is enforced in the NC judicial system? Why does it seem to take so long to try murder cases in NC? Is that something that happens nationwide?

In the State vs. Welch case were there discrepancies as obvious as those that are outlined in Dr. Harr's latest flog, (thank you Dr. Harr for providing that well documented explanation of your analysis of the reports and records), between the medical examiner's report and the medical records?

Anonymous said...

How is it any different for any person to condone the medical malpractice that led to the death of Mr. Daly any more than covering up or abetting or obstructing the justice of the prosecution of anyone else who commits murder or causes death to another?

Anonymous said...

How many people who have DT's after sugery die from intubation errors at Duke? Are intubation errors that cause brain death by lack of oxygen something that happens often at Duke?

Does it happen often in others hospitals in NC, or nationwide?

Anonymous said...

There have been several cases in news that I have read about people being burned very badly due to sparks around oxygen use. Some of these were babies in incubators that occured at Duke Hospital, one was just in news today that happened at Durham Regional (a Duke hospital thinking of changing its name to Duke Regional to take advantage of the Duke brand name). It seems Duke has issues with oxygen safety use that they were aware of years ago (when the babies were burned) that they still have not fixed apparently.

They had similar issues with blood compatibilities and now this with intubation errors? How long will this continue? Should the public be concerned and alerted of this safety hazard that Duke seems to pose?

Walt said...

Anonymous at 6:33 wrote: "In the State vs. Welch case were there discrepancies as obvious as those that are outlined in Dr. Harr's latest flog,...."

Sid has not outlined any discrepancies. You don't seem get the gist of St. v. Welch. The court held that medical malpractice and even the victim's refusal of life saving medical treatment is not an intervening cause to cut off criminal liability.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr explicitely points out the discrepanices in his latest flog. They are hard to deny after watching the flog and comparing the detailed notes Dr. Harr provides, even for a lay person.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM:

How is it any different for any person to condone the medical malpractice that led to the death of Mr. Daly"?

Did you mean Mr. Daye?

There was no Medical malpractice in how Reginald Daye was treated.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM

"How many people who have DT's after sugery(sic) die from intubation errors at Duke? Are intubation errors that cause brain death by lack of oxygen something that happens often at Duke?"

Why don't you tell us.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 3:18 AM"

"Dr. Harr explicitely points out the discrepanices in his latest flog."

No he doesn't.

"They are hard to deny after watching the flog and comparing the detailed notes Dr. Harr provides, even for a lay person."

SIDNEY's allegations are hard to believe, considering his lack of qualifications to make such allegations.

Dr. Anonymous

Anonymous said...

I would not be asking that question here if I knew the answer to that question - would I? I would be covering it up as quickly as Duke could possibly could - because I would be Duke (and that is what Duke appears to do quite frequently).

Does the Joint Accreditation Committee know and post the answer to that question - I do not know.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 5:27 AM

"I would not be asking that question here if I knew the answer to that question - would I?"

You are asking it as if you did know the answer.

"I would be covering it up as quickly as Duke could possibly could - because I would be Duke (and that is what Duke appears to do quite frequently)."

You again are showing you think you do know the answer.

"Does the Joint Accreditation Committee know and post the answer to that question - I do not know."

No. Now you do know - not that you will realize that the answer is the truth. You post as if you know SIDNEY has revealed the truth..

Anonymous said...

You must be Duke trying to make me look quilty for your own misunderstandings. Why are you so confused?

Nifong Supporter said...


A lawyer said...
Dr. Harr:

For a long time, some of the commenters here have been posting about the decision in State v. Welch. I have never seen you respond.

Have you read that case? If not, it's here:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nc-court-of-appeals/1347497.html

If you have read the case, do you have any comment on how it affects your theories about how Ms. Mangum should be defended from the murder charge?


Hey, A lawyer.

Yes, I have perused State v. Welch and I have many problems with its application towards Mangum's case. I do plan on dedicating a flog to it soon. An announcement will follow in a minute.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Being a physician, and knowing that the autopsy report is fraudulent, I feel it my civic duty to do something about it".

You being a physician is irrelevant.

You have no residency training, no board certification, no training in pathology, no training in surgery, which adds up to you have no qualifications to determine whether or not the autopsy report is fraudulent.

Dr.Anonymous


Dr. Anonymous, it does not require a medical degree to recognize discrepancies between the autopsy report and all of the other medical records... only fifth grade reading level of comprehension.

If I am to assume you are a relevant physician, how do you explain the discrepancies? Do you believe there was a stab wound to the left lung, diaphragm, left kidney and fundus of the stomach? Do you believe that there were lesions to the left upper extremity suggestive of "defensive injuries?"

Instead of criticizing my professional background, why don't you use yours to provide a little objective insight? You can begin by answering the questions I just asked.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY! LISTEN UP!
TWO IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS!

First, I will shortly be posting the Flog to the vog posted on April 6th. It will be accessible by clicking on the panel that I will add to that entry. It contains a lot more information than the vogs, including letters and other documents. It is so important that I might re-post it in the future. Anyway, it will be posted in a few minutes to the April 6, 2013 flog site.

Secondly, there will be a short interlude before I begin my next flog, as I need to work on converting some flogs to vogs, writing letters, and taking care of other important business. I have two topics planned for the future and have decided to let commenters determine (by numbers and/or argument) which I should give priority to. One topic has to do with my recent trip to the big hill (D.C.) to do some lobbying on behalf of equal justice for all Tar Heelians. The other topic is an answer to the State v. Welch decision and how it lacks relevance in Mangum's case.

Respond at your earliest as I will begin work on the flog by the end of this week... around the tenth or eleventh of May.

Enjoy the weekend.

As you were.

Anonymous said...

Go for the D.C. trip. It will give you more time to really thing about your reply to State vs. Welch - and how talking too much in depth about it at this time might mess up Ms. Mangum's case at this time. My thoughts on the issue.

Thank you again for the latest flog. It was very informative.

Anonymous said...


Nifong Supporter said...

"I have two topics planned for the future and have decided to let commenters determine (by numbers and/or argument) which I should give priority to."


Sid, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but no one gives a crap.

Anonymous said...

Other than the little toad who posted at 8:06....

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 7:09 AM

"You must be Duke trying to make me look quilty(sic) for your own misunderstandings. Why are you so confused?"

I'm neither Duke nor confused.

Name calling establishes you as uninformed.

Anonymous said...

This blog is broken, corrupted, and hijacked.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Hey, A lawyer.

Yes, I have perused State v. Welch and I have many problems with its application towards Mangum's case. I do plan on dedicating a flog to it soon. An announcement will follow in a minute."

You have so many problems simply because you haven't got a clue as to what the law says.

Anonymous said...

Right on, Homer.

Break the Conspiracy said...

Sidney,

I encourage you to address State v Welch in your next flog.

Walt raised this case almost two years ago, and you have failed even to acknowledge its potential relevance to Mangum's murder charges.

As I noted earlier: "When you repeatedly appear to ignore evidence and/or the law that is inconsistent with your conclusion, the naysayers conclude that you are either extraordinarily dishonest or unbelievably stupid. In either case, people do not take you seriously."

You can use this flog to demonstrate that you are neither extraordinarily dishonest nor unbelievably stupid. A disingenuous flog will not accomplish that objective.

I remind you that you will be discussing the law. A post that avoids the legal issues at hand and characterizes legal analysis as "legalese mumbo-jumbo" will not be compelling. Do not focus on irrelevant matters. If you do not believe that State v Welch provides appropriate guidance, you should cite cases that you believe are decided correctly.

This is your opportunity to demonstrate that you have the necessary expertise to have represented Mangum and that Walt vastly overstates the value of a legal education.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 7:09 AM

"You must be Duke trying to make me look quilty(sic) for your own misunderstandings. Why are you so confused?"

I'm neither Duke nor confused.

Name calling establishes you as uninformed.

May 4, 2013 at 8:15 AM

ok, first I ask questions and you accuse me of knowing the answers to the questions (even though I don't) Me - innocent You - Confused.

Two, then you accuse me of being uninformed - when all I am doing is asking questions. Me - innocent; You - confusing

Me - innocent (x2)
You - confused and confusing

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Dr. Anonymous, it does not require a medical degree to recognize discrepancies between the autopsy report and all of the other medical records".

Yes it does.

"... only fifth grade reading level of comprehension."

Which is an admission on your part that you lack the qualifications."


"If I am to assume you are a relevant physician, how do you explain the discrepancies?"

What discrepancies?

"Do you believe there was a stab wound to the left lung, diaphragm, left kidney and fundus of the stomach?"

Yes, since they were documented in the autopsy report, and I know a bit more than you do about Surgery and pathology, having performed surgery and having done autopsies in residency. How many surgical procedures, how many autopsies have you performed.

"Do you believe that there were lesions to the left upper extremity suggestive of 'defensive injuries?'"

I believe Dr. Nichols found them, and yu have not established as fact that his report was fraudulent. Nor have you established as fact that you have the credentials to establish the report as fraudulent.

Instead of criticizing my professional background"

Establish your professional background qualifies you as an authority. If you were to testify in court as Crystal's expert you would have to establish your credentials.

"why don't you use yours to provide a little objective insight?"

I have.

"You can begin by answering the questions I just asked."

Why? You have not established you have the authority to ask such questions.

Dr.Anonymous

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"HEY, EVERYBODY! LISTEN UP!
TWO IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS!"

What important announcements?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 8:24 AM

"ok, first I ask questions and you accuse me of knowing the answers to the questions (even though I don't) Me - innocent You - Confused.

Two, then you accuse me of being uninformed - when all I am doing is asking questions. Me - innocent; You - confusing

Me - innocent (x2)
You - confused and confusing

Your question: "How is it any different for any person to condone the medical malpractice that led to the death of Mr. Daly(sic)"?

In that "question:" you accuse Duke of committing malpractice. That presumes you know that Duke perpetrated malpractice. SIDNEY's pronouncements on Duke are not supported by the records he has published and do not establish malpractice.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 8:24 AM:

Your second statement: "that is what Duke appears to do quite frequently(Cover up malpractice)".

You are again saying you know Duke perpetrated malpractice against Mr. Daye. You are again saying you know the answer.

Anonymous said...

Dear innocent (x2),

Who's your daddy?

Anonymous said...

You are misquoting me and accusing me of your misquotes.

I said the following:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would not be asking that question here if I knew the answer to that question - would I? I would be covering it up as quickly as Duke could possibly could - because I would be Duke (and that is what Duke appears to do quite frequently).

Does the Joint Accreditation Committee know and post the answer to that question - I do not know.

May 4, 2013 at 5:27 AM

Anonymous said...

Dear innocent (x2),

Who's your daddy?

Anonymous said...

State vs. Welch.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Dear innocent (x2),

Who's your daddy?

May 4, 2013 at 8:54 AM

anonymous as well, thank you.

please do not ask again, thank you.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM:

I am quoting you word for word.Your questions ARE allegations of mal practice against Duke.

Anonymous said...

Please post your analysis of State v Welch

Anonymous said...

Dear innocent (x2),

Who's your daddy?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM:

I am quoting you word for word.Your questions ARE allegations of mal practice against Duke.

May 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

I am sorry, but you are not quoting me word for word. I just quoted what I said above. I am not going to argue with you any more. I hope you cannot be so angry soon about Duke. It will be better for you. Thank you.

If intubation errors are malpractice, then yes, I am questioning Duke of malpractice for the intubation error they describe in their medical reports that are annotated quite well in Dr. Harr's flog. Other than that - I want to know how often this happens at Duke - as it is an issue for all to be concerned about who may have patients or be a patient of Duke, or be affected by Duke's health policies. You do understand that don't you?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Dear innocent (x2),

Who's your daddy?"


Stop being a bully.

Anonymous said...

My sources tell me that intubation errors at DUMC are rare.

I trust that makes you feel better.

Anonymous said...

Is innocent (x2) a relative of mistrail recluse?

Anonymous said...

Depends on the sources, and truly, should it?

I mean - if you picture a newborn with breathing problems getting intubated the wrong way - and then burned alive while lying in its incubator;

or

a stabbing victim getting intubated the wrong way, the visual check of the wrong intubation being faulty, and the brain of the patient dying while the brains of the attending medical persons apparently aren't working very well at the time, then ... everything else that followed (like in the Mangum case now in court)

how could you (feel better about it)?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:08 AM:

"I am sorry, but you are not quoting me word for word. I just quoted what I said above."

Yes I am.

"I am not going to argue with you any more."

You have made no sensible arguments to begin with.

"I hope you cannot be so angry soon about Duke. It will be better for you. Thank you."

You presume a fact not in evidence. I am not angry with Duke.

If intubation errors are malpractice, then yes, I am questioning Duke of malpractice for the intubation error they describe in their medical reports that are annotated quite well in Dr. Harr's flog."

Intubation errors do not inevitably rise to the level of malpractice. The records SIDNEY posted do not document any intubation error.

"Other than that - I want to know how often this happens at Duke - as it is an issue for all to be concerned about who may have patients or be a patient of Duke, or be affected by Duke's health policies."

S why not research the subject on line instead of publishing uncorroborated allegations on line?

"You do understand that don't you?"

No I do not understand why you publish uncorroborated allegations rather than research them - unless you are corrupt DA NIFONG who believes his pronouncements are automatically true.

Or, like SIDNEY, do you believe you can shake down Duke for a big settlement. You do sound to me like a contingency fee hungry lawyer trolling for a big fee.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:30 AM

"Depends on the sources, and truly, should it?"

In citing SIDNEY, you are citing a completely non credible source.

"I mean - if you picture a newborn with breathing problems getting intubated the wrong way - and then burned alive while lying in its incubator;"

Irrelevant to the Reginald Daye death. Reginald Daye was not a neonate.

"or

a stabbing victim getting intubated the wrong way, the visual check of the wrong intubation being faulty, and the brain of the patient dying while the brains of the attending medical persons apparently aren't working very well at the time, then ... everything else that followed (like in the Mangum case now in court)"

It has not been established as fact that this is what happened in the Reginald Daye death case.

"how could you (feel better about it)?"

The question is, why do you take pleasure in presenting uncorroborated allegations as fact?

Anonymous said...

Right on Homer

Anonymous said...

I am sorry, but you are apparently terribly confused about what I say, and you apparently want to argue with me aout your confusion. I am making no allegations, I am asking questions. I can do that, thank you.

Why are you so angry if someone asks questions about Duke?

Anonymous said...

Sid,

I am interested in your analysis of St v Welch.

Your explanation of why the case is not applicable (or why it reinforces the argument that Crystal is not responsible for Daye's death) should be enlightening.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:30:

You sound more and more like a contingency fee hungry lawyer trolling for a big payoff.

Anonymous said...

Mistrail Recluse asks: how could you (feel better about it)?

Mistakes are tragic. Rare mistakes are better than frequent mistakes. Do you disagree?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM:

"am sorry, but you are apparently terribly confused about what I say, and you apparently want to argue with me aout(sic) your confusion."

That is not the case.

"I am making no allegations, I am asking questions. I can do that, thank you."

In asking questions which presume the death of Reginald Daye was caused by malpractice on the part of Duke, you are making an uncorroborated allegation. In spite of your delusions, SIDNEY has made no case for malpractice.

Why are you so angry if someone asks questions about Duke?

Anonymous said...

If you are talking to me, I believe I just said Should it?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM:

"Why are you so angry if someone asks questions about Duke?"

You are presuming I am angry and you are presuming Duke is guilty of malpractice against Reginald Daye.

You do seem like a contingency fee hungry lawyer trolling for a big payoff.

Anonymous said...

I could just be someone concerned about patients at Duke, which I am. Do you have a problem with that?

Anonymous said...

prayers taimuly
MY SOURCES HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION THAT PROVES CRYSTAL MANGUM IS INNOCENT OF REGINALD DAYE'S DEATH.

REGINALD DAYE WAS THE VICTIM OF A HOSPITAL HOMICIDE.

SIDNEY B. HARR SNUCK INTO DAYE'S HOSPITAL ROOM AND MOVED THE TUBE INTO DAYE'S ESOPHAGUS.

MY SOURCES HAVE PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING PROOF:

1. SIDNEY HARR WORKED AS A PHYSICIAN FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS. AS A RESULT, HE HAS THE EXPERTISE TO IMPROPERLY INTUBATE A PATIENT.

2. SIDNEY HARR STATED ON THIS BLOG THAT DUKE WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

3. SIDNEY HARR'S ROLE IN MOVING THE TUBE GAVE HIM THE KNOWLEDGE TO DISCUSS THE REAL CAUSES OF DAYE'S DEATH.

I KNOW THAT THE NAYSAYERS WILL CONTEND THAT THIS EVIDENCE PROVES NOTHING. HOWEVER, I NOTE THAT IT IS EQUALLY COMPELLING AS HARR'S PROOF OF THE CARPETBAGGER JIHAD.

I URGE SIDNEY B. HARR TO DEMONSTRATE NIFONGIAN COURAGE AND ADMIT TO HIS ACTIONS. BY DOING SO, AN INNOCENT MOTHER OF THREE CAN BE SPARED.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM

"I could just be someone concerned about patients at Duke, which I am. Do you have a problem with that?"

If you were, you would provide hard data, not uncorroborated allegations.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Amen

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM

"I could just be someone concerned about patients at Duke, which I am. Do you have a problem with that?"

If you were, you would provide hard data, not uncorroborated allegations.

May 4, 2013 at 10:06 AM

you have serious issues don't you?

I believe my asking questions to understand better the facts indicates you are wrong on all accounts about things you feel free to continuously accuse me of, that is just you trying to play mind games. You are only fooling yourself. Why do you do that?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM:

"you have serious issues don't you?"

NO.

"I believe my asking questions to understand better the facts"

What you are assuming as facts are uncorroborated allegations.

"indicates you are wrong on all accounts about things you feel free to continuously accuse me of, that is just you trying to play mind games."

You are showing you can not establish as facts what you claim as facts.

"You are only fooling yourself. Why do you do that?"

Establish that your facts are facts. A trial lawyer trying to make a case against Duke for malpractice would have to corroborate his allegations, he would have to establish his allegations as facts. You have not done that.



Anonymous said...

I'm not a trail lawyer silly, leave me alone.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
prayers taimuly
MY SOURCES HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION THAT PROVES CRYSTAL MANGUM IS INNOCENT OF REGINALD DAYE'S DEATH.

REGINALD DAYE WAS THE VICTIM OF A HOSPITAL HOMICIDE.

SIDNEY B. HARR SNUCK INTO DAYE'S HOSPITAL ROOM AND MOVED THE TUBE INTO DAYE'S ESOPHAGUS.

MY SOURCES HAVE PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING PROOF:

1. SIDNEY HARR WORKED AS A PHYSICIAN FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS. AS A RESULT, HE HAS THE EXPERTISE TO IMPROPERLY INTUBATE A PATIENT.

2. SIDNEY HARR STATED ON THIS BLOG THAT DUKE WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

3. SIDNEY HARR'S ROLE IN MOVING THE TUBE GAVE HIM THE KNOWLEDGE TO DISCUSS THE REAL CAUSES OF DAYE'S DEATH.

I KNOW THAT THE NAYSAYERS WILL CONTEND THAT THIS EVIDENCE PROVES NOTHING. HOWEVER, I NOTE THAT IT IS EQUALLY COMPELLING AS HARR'S PROOF OF THE CARPETBAGGER JIHAD.

I URGE SIDNEY B. HARR TO DEMONSTRATE NIFONGIAN COURAGE AND ADMIT TO HIS ACTIONS. BY DOING SO, AN INNOCENT MOTHER OF THREE CAN BE SPARED.


May 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM



Stop damaging Dr. Harr's reputation with these unfounded allegations and rumors.

Anonymous said...

Hey trail lawyer, who's your daddy?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM:

"Stop damaging Dr. Harr's reputation with these unfounded allegations and rumors."

SIDNEY's reputation has already been unredeemably damaged by the way he has presented "unfounded allegations" as fact, i.e, the unfounded allegation that Duke's medical malpractice killed Reginald Daye.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM:

"SIDNEY's reputation has already been unredeemably damaged by the way he has presented "unfounded allegations" as fact, i.e, the unfounded allegation that Duke's medical malpractice killed Reginald Daye."


Dr. Harr has provided extensive proof of each of his statements. You just refuse to accept the facts.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"SIDNEY's reputation has already been unredeemably damaged by the way he has presented "unfounded allegations" as fact, i.e, the unfounded allegation that Duke's medical malpractice killed Reginald Daye."


Who should we believe? An experienced, skilled physician, such as Dr. Harr? Or, a KC Johnson wannabe?

Anonymous said...

Stop damaging Dr. Harr's reputation with these unfounded allegations and rumors.


I OBJECT TO YOUR INSINUATIONS THAT I AM MAKING "UNFOUNDED" ALLEGATIONS.

I AM MEETING THE LOFTY STANDARDS OF THIS BLOG FOR ALLEGATIONS.

SIDNEY HARR CAN RELY ON ANONYMOUS SOURCES. I CAN RELY ON ANONYMOUS SOURCES.

SIDNEY HARR CAN ALLEGE THAT RAE EVANS IS DIRECTING A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY AGAINST NIFONG, MANGUM AND THEIR SUPPORTERS BASED ON A JOB 25 YEARS EARLIER AND A CRITICAL STATEMENT. I CAN ALLEGE THAT SIDNEY HARR IS GUILTY OF MURDER BASED ON A JOB 20 YEARS EARLIER AND A CRITICAL STATEMENT.

AS I INDICATED IN MY EARLIER STATEMENT, "THE NAYSAYERS WILL CONTEND THAT THIS EVIDENCE PROVES NOTHING. HOWEVER, I NOTE THAT IT IS EQUALLY COMPELLING AS HARR'S PROOF OF THE CARPETBAGGER JIHAD."

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE CRITICIZED SIDNEY HARR FOR HIS UNFOUNDED ALLEGATION AGAINST RAE EVANS.

I DEMAND THAT YOU APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR HYPOCRISY.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM

"Who should we believe? An experienced, skilled physician, such as Dr. Harr? Or, a KC Johnson wannabe?"

Thank you for the compliment comparing me to Professor Johnson. We should all aspire to his level of excellence.

So far as "An experienced, skilled physician, such as Dr. Harr", there is no such person.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5/4 12:17pm asks: Who should we believe? An experienced, skilled physician, such as Dr. Harr?

We are aware that Harr practiced as an ER physician for 17 years. He apparently ended his practice prematurely. We are not aware that he is "skilled."

Please provide the evidence to support this claim. Thanks in advance.

Anonymous said...

I guess mistrail recluse got lonely so has returned. Dear trail, please get yourself a book entitled english composition for dummies. You need it

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM

"Dr. Harr has provided extensive proof of each of his statements. You just refuse to accept the facts."

In the words of SIDNEY HARR, shirley you jest.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I guess mistrail recluse got lonely so has returned. Dear trail, please get yourself a book entitled english composition for dummies. You need it"


This is hysterical. I mean, does it get any better than this? Incredible biting, sarcastic humor.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM

"Who should we believe? An experienced, skilled physician, such as Dr. Harr?"

The "experienced, skilled physician...Dr. Harr" never completed a residency and never achieved any specialty board certification. I say again, there is no "experienced, skilled physician...Dr. Harr"

Anonymous said...



Anonymous said...

The "experienced, skilled physician...Dr. Harr" never completed a residency and never achieved any specialty board certification. I say again, there is no "experienced, skilled physician...Dr. Harr"



K-C, K-C, K-C, K-C, K-C

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 12:55pm,

You are violating Dr. Harr's rule against chanting posts.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 12:55 PM

"K-C, K-C, K-C, K-C, K-C"

Thank you thank you thank you thank you for the compliment.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous May 4, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I owe you another one.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


"Who should we believe? ... a KC Johnson wannabe?"


Actually, his writing and analytical skills are about equal to Sid's.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5/4 11:14am:

YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE APOLOGY YOU OWE ME.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr, do you know what the normal medical procedure for intubation is? When the oxygen level reading came back negative after the first intubation, would'nt it have been more professionally sound to remove and replace the tube immediately instead of relying merely on a visual check that went against the negative oxygen reading? Is that normal procedure, to rely on a visual check instead of going by the oxygen level reading to determine if the tube was placed correctly?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Dr. Harr, do you know what the normal medical procedure for intubation is? When the oxygen level reading came back negative after the first intubation, would'nt it have been more professionally sound to remove and replace the tube immediately instead of relying merely on a visual check that went against the negative oxygen reading? Is that normal procedure, to rely on a visual check instead of going by the oxygen level reading to determine if the tube was placed correctly?"

Why are you bothering Sid with this question?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr, also, can you tell by the medical records what type of medical personnel made the fatal intubation errors? Was it nurses, interns, doctors, or all of the above? Thank you for your time in answering if you do.

Anonymous said...

Stop bothering Sid. He's trying to decide on a topic for his next flog.

Anonymous said...

Instead of “equal justice for all,” North Carolina follows a tenet of “selective justice based on Class and Color.” This is manifested by the fact that it is broken, corrupted, and hijacked.
That the system is broken is undeniable in lieu of the numerous incidents of innocent individuals being unjustly incarcerated for months and years, only later to be exonerated. Of few of North Carolina’s wrongly incarcerated include Erick Daniels, James Arthur Johnson, Floyd Brown, Alan Gell, Carletta Alston, and Kenneth Kagonyera.

Distinguished UNC-Chapel Hill law professor Rich Rosen, in a recent paper, cited that the Tar Heel state lagged only behind the states of Illinois and Louisiana in the number of death row inmates found later to be innocent of committing capital crimes.

Of those innocents who have been wrongfully sentenced to death or life include Darryl Hunt, Glen Edward Chapman, Levon “Bo” Jones, Gregory Taylor, and Joseph Sledge… all of whom have been deprived of precious decades of freedom… lost years in the prime of their lives for which no amount of money can compensate.

That the system is corrupted is plainly evidenced by the facts surrounding the trumped up criminal charges against Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser Crystal Mangum. Incarcerated for 689 days prior to making bond to await trial for first degree murder in the death of her boyfriend Reginald Daye, Ms. Mangum was the true victim of a vendetta prosecution as payback for her role in the Duke Lacrosse case.

The events surrounding Daye’s death clearly show that Mangum was physically assaulted in a domestic violence incident and that she stabbed Daye in self-defense. Facts point out that the prosecutors, in charging Mangum in Daye’s death, used a false and fraudulent autopsy report produced by the North Carolina Deputy Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Clay Nichols.

Discrepancies in the medical findings are readily apparent between the autopsy report and all of the other medical records, including the operative report, orthopedic consultation
report, EMS records and other documents found in prosecution discovery.

Comparisons can be made on the following directory which includes the autopsy report as well as other medical records. Clicking the “Notation” button will highlight important passages. Clicking the “Clear notes” button will return to the previous directory where another selection can be made. After completion of viewing the documents, click the “Proceed” button to continue with the flog.

Another problem with the autopsy report is its conclusion that Daye died due to “complications of a stab wound to the chest.” This is not merely misleading or disingenuous, but an outright lie… but a lie that Prosecutor Kelly Gauger required in order to charge Crystal Mangum with murder following Daye’s death. No nexus is presented by Dr. Nichols between the stab wound and Daye’s death.

Anonymous said...

All indications are that the emergency surgery, for the wound that was not considered to be life-threatening, went well with Reginald Daye’s prognosis for a full recovery.

Dr. Nichols conveniently omitted the events that contributed to Daye’s death that included delirium tremens, an esophageal intubation that precipitated cardiac arrest and brain death, a weeklong comatose state, and the elective removal from life support by the medical staff at Duke University Hospital that resulted in Daye’s demise.

The autopsy report can be compared with other medical records and documents in order to support the premise that the true cause of Daye’s death had nothing to do with the stab wound, but rather the errantly placed endotracheal tube.

That the North Carolina justice system has been hijacked is realized by the fact that the mainstream media, politicians, civil rights organization, and community leaders, despite having full knowledge of the significant problems with the autopsy report and prosecution’s case against Mangum, have elected to remain mute and idle… acting as enablers or conspirators after the fact. No one has Nifongian courage to challenge the blatant and disparate legal mistreatment of Crystal Mangum by the state.

This is the same thing that happened to then Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong six years ago when he prosecuted the Duke Lacrosse case. The state worked with the media in disparaging Mr. Nifong and raining in public contempt against a man who was merely doing his job, but in a dedicated and independent manner.

The subsequent persecution of Mr. Nifong pulled a shroud over the state’s justice system, and it is therefore no wonder that Dr. Clay Nichols would rather commit a criminal act than go against the wishes of the Powers-That-Be… those who have stolen from Tar Heelians the reins of justice.

North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper and former Governor Bev Perdue were made aware of allegations of fraudulence in the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols. The state’s Medical Board was notified about Dr. Nichols’ fabricated autopsy report and has determined not to take action against him. The North Carolina State Bar received complaints against Durham Prosecutors Gauger and Charlene Coggins-Franks and it, likewise, decided not to proceed.

Currently North Carolina is a state where those in positions of power and those with a voice feel compromised because of the example made of Mr. Nifong. The State, the media, and even the defense attorneys for Mangum have as their number one priority to protect the medical examiner and Duke University Hospital… even if it means an unlawful felony conviction and years of imprisonment for an innocent African American mother of three… Mangum.

All avenues at the state level to rectify the injustice against Mangum have been extensive and have been exhausted. It is time for the Federal government to get involved because the state is the problem.

Consider the following for example: this state absolutely adores former Senator Jesse Helms, an unrepentant racist. The media refers to him in glowing terms while ignoring his bigoted past… Congresswoman Renee Elmers wants to name a Federal Building in downtown Raleigh after him. Not only that, but the General Assembly nearly unanimously paid tribute to him (one negative vote), however, this same body cannot drum up enough votes to grant a pardon to former Governor William Wood Holden who had the audacity to confront the Ku Klux Klan and prevent its lynching of African Americans in the 19th century.

Furthermore the state is tossing out the Racial Justice Act and rushing forward to actions necessary to commence executions of the African American majority of death row inmates.

The case against Crystal Mangum is clearly one that represents the state’s justice system of one which acts selectively based on Class and Color.



Lady Justice is demanding that the Federal government intercede on behalf of the defendant, and justice itself. 

Anonymous said...

On Thursday, March 28, 2013, I went to United States Congressman G. K. Butterfield’s Durham Office to deliver a letter to him about one of his constituents, Crystal Mangum.
Although his main office is in Wilson County, because of creative redistricting by the Republican-majority North Carolina General Assembly, he also represents individuals in Durham County… replacing David Price.

His office was closed, so I slipped the three paged letter under the door.

The following Monday, I called Congressman Butterfield’s Durham office and spoke with a gentleman named Reginald Speight. He confirmed receipt of the letter, which he did not open, and he told me it would be turned over to Mr. Butterfield’s regional director.

The following day, Tuesday, April 2, 3013, I received a phone call from Ray Rogers, the congressman’s regional director in Wilson County. He had read the contents of the letter which focused on the fraudulent autopsy report that was used as the basis to charge his constituent, Crystal Mangum, with first degree murder.

Mr. Rogers asked me what I wanted the congressman to do about the situation. I told him that I wanted Mr. Butterfield to do something… to write a letter to me, to the newspaper, to the Durham district attorney…. to call for an investigation. I told him that I wanted the congressman to do something.

I explained that I was not a politician and that Ms. Mangum was not my constituent, but that I was not going to sit by and do nothing in the face of such an injustice. Mr. Rogers told me that he would discuss the letter with others on his staff and make a determination about forwarding the letter to Congressman Butterfield.

After not hearing from the congressman or his staff, I placed a call to the Wilson office two weeks later on Tuesday, April 16, 2013. Mr. Rogers was unavailable… in a meeting, and would not return that day.

The following day, Wednesday, April 17, 2013, I called again and spoke with Mr. Rogers. He told me that the congressman would be taking no action on this issue because it was in the courts. This is not an uncommon response, as many politicians use this as an excuse to refrain from getting involved in political quagmires.

I then asked if Congressman Butterfield had even seen the letter, and Mr. Rogers told me, “No.” By not seeing the letter, the congressman automatically has deniability… he’s out of the loop, so to speak.

I can’t speak for Congressman Butterfield, but I believe it is a serious breech of justice and ethics when a medical examiner provides a fraudulent autopsy report in order to snare an innocent individual. That is what has happened in the case against Crystal Mangum.

Congressman Butterfield’s constituent, Ms. Mangum, potentially faces a life sentence based on bogus charges in a vendetta prosecution within the congressman’s district, and it appears that he is not going to do anything about it.

The congressman can’t act on an issue about which he has no knowledge. That is the purpose of this flog. To see that he learns about the tragic injustice that is going on in his district… although it is many miles away.

To viewers of this flog, I request that you contact G. K. Butterfield at one of his many offices and let him know that he’s got mail. And he can find it posted on this blog site. 

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr, to save myself from the abusive people on this list, I will ask this question as well now to minimize the time I spend on this list trying to figure out what to do about my concerns for patient safety at Duke: Are you going to write to the Joint Accrediation Commission about the fatal intubation errors and the medical examiners discrepancies on his report and ask them to get involved? Do you think it will help anything to ask them to make sure these issues are investigated and fixed for all? Thank you again for your time and consideration in answering if you do.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5/4 11:14am and 5/4 5:42pm:

YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE APOLOGY YOU OWE ME.

Anonymous said...

Person demanding apology for something - you have serious issues which I am sure is apparent to all.

I asked Dr. Harr a question that has nothing to do with you, unless you may be a patient at Duke someday.

As far as the other post, I did not write it, and even if I did, that person does not owe you an apology from what I can tell.

Stop abusing people on this list. What do you hope to achieve by doing that?

Anonymous said...

Person demanding apology for something - you have serious issues which I am sure is apparent to all.


YOU FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF DAMAGING HARR'S REPUTATION WITH UNFOUNDED ALLEGATIONS AND RUMORS.

AS I EXPLAINED, I MEET THE LOFTY STANDARDS FOR MAKING ALLEGATIONS ON THIS BLOG.

YOU ARE A LIAR.

I OBJECTED TO YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION, NOT THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED OF HARR.

YOU NOW OWE ME THREE APOLOGIES:

ONE FOR THE FALSE ACCUSATION THAT I WAS DAMAGING HARR'S REPUTATION.

THE SECOND FOR YOUR LIE.

THE TIRD FOR YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION THAT I HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS.

I DEMAND THAT YOU APOLOGIZE.

I DEMAND THAT YOU APOLOGIZE NOW.

Anonymous said...

Stop abusing people on this list. What do you hope to achieve by doing that?


YOU ARE A LIAR.

I AM NOT ABUSING ANYONE ON THIS BLOG.

I OBJECTED TO A POSTER WHO MADE FALSE ACCUSATIONS.

I OBJECT AS WELL TO YOUR LIES.

YOU ARE THE ABUSING POSTER.

I DEMAND ANOTHER APOLOGY.

Anonymous said...


ANONYMOUS 5/4 11:14 IS A HYPOCRITE.

I DEMAND AN APOLOGY.

I FIND HYPOCRISY TO BE NOXIOUS.

Anonymous said...

Immediately after stabbing Mr. Daye and leaving the apartment, why didn't Crystal go to a phone, or flag down a car and say, "Help! Help! I've just been attacked!"

Running and hiding indicates consciousness of guilt. Why would an innocent person attacked in their own home and forced to stab their assailant in defense run and hide? I know if I stabbed or shot someone in self defense, the police wouldn't have to go looking for me - I'd be the person reporting it to the police.

And why did Crystal wait until after Mr. Daye died (and was no longer available to contradict her story) to articulate her self defense claim?

Finally, if this truly is a vendetta prosecution, why would Duke and the Durham power structure - or whoever it is that is driving the prosecution - want their star witness against Ms. Mangum dead?

Crystal's defense seems shoddy and full of holes.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Immediately after stabbing Mr. Daye and leaving the apartment, why didn't Crystal go to a phone, or flag down a car and say, "Help! Help! I've just been attacked!"

Because she had just asked a cop outside the building to help her - and that cop had ignored her request for help and told her to take it inside. No trust there. Also, she sought safety and to protect her children at her aunt's house a few doors down. That is what I have read here.

Running and hiding indicates consciousness of guilt. Why would an innocent person attacked in their own home and forced to stab their assailant in defense run and hide? I know if I stabbed or shot someone in self defense, the police wouldn't have to go looking for me - I'd be the person reporting it to the police.

Running and hiding can also indicate fear and the mental capacity to get away from your attacker and protect others if need be.

And why did Crystal wait until after Mr. Daye died (and was no longer available to contradict her story) to articulate her self defense claim?

She was told she had the right not to talk - and she took it.

Finally, if this truly is a vendetta prosecution, why would Duke and the Durham power structure - or whoever it is that is driving the prosecution - want their star witness against Ms. Mangum dead?

So they could charge Ms. Mangum with murder, and so they could keep Mr. Daye from telling it like it is - that he was drunk and attacked her (and he gave her the rent money to pay the bill the next day).

Crystal's defense seems shoddy and full of holes.

It is truly horrible in my opinion that so many people have been turned to hatred against Ms. Mangum by Duke's and Durham court's faulty prosecutions and misdeeds. The vendetta against her has been and is something that most people would not be able to handle, so I think she is very strong to continue to stand against the obvious vendetta - and - since the vendetta is so obvious - I hope that Duke and Durham judicial system will be fixed sooner than later - as this one case is simply an example of what EVERYONE faces if they venture to trust either Duke or the Durham court system as it is now.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said May 5, 2013 at 3:55 AM:

Your last post is a rehash of SIDNEY's impotent attempts to spin on the death of Reginald Daye.


Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dr. Harr, to save myself from the abusive people on this list, I will ask this question as well now to minimize the time I spend on this list trying to figure out what to do about my concerns for patient safety at Duke: Are you going to write to the Joint Accrediation Commission about the fatal intubation errors and the medical examiners discrepancies on his report and ask them to get involved? Do you think it will help anything to ask them to make sure these issues are investigated and fixed for all? Thank you again for your time and consideration in answering if you do."

May 4, 2013 at 5:42 PM


Your are a troll. Stop harassing Sid.

Anonymous said...

The hatred and evil displayed by duke and it's supporters, the lies, misdeeds, and outright bullying behavior - all these things are indicative and example of duke to many now. It has become what duke is to most.

There is no reason to trust them anymore with these new facts emerging about the medical error and coverup. The question about would duke kill a patient in order to frame someone, would they continue to cause harm and chaos in order to cause a problem that will require more civil rights and freedoms be taken from the US citizens in order to solve their duke made mess is very real. It is what they do. It is never ending.

How do you file a complaint about this death by malpractice and medical examiner's discrepancies, etc., and where do you file, and to whom? How do you get all services from duke stopped that require trust until they can be proven to be trustworthy in their medical services, especially.

Would you let a doctor treat you who you suspected of belonging to an organization who would kill you if they were trying to frame someone else, or even if they have issues with your beliefs about things, or for any other reason they consider worthy of their killing? Or from an organization who are the cause of so much societal nonwell-being to so many in general?

Many would not, so there are real issues with duke and co. by many because of all that has transpired between duke, durham, and all these cases of late.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

ANONYMOUS 5/4 11:14 IS A HYPOCRITE.

I DEMAND AN APOLOGY.

I FIND HYPOCRISY TO BE NOXIOUS.



May 4, 2013 at 7:15 PM



Did you forget to take your meds?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5/5 3:55am:

You discuss what you describe as an "obvious" vendetta. Why are Duke and Durham conducting a vendetta against Mangum in the first place? Sid gives a non-answer, saying it is payback for her "role" in the lacrosse case. That explains nothing.

Can you explain why this is happening?

Anonymous said...

Back to the question at hand, ignoring all of these trolls on both sides of the debate.

Sid, please flog your analysis of State v Welch. Walt has described it as the case that affects the determination of whether Crystal is responsible for Daye's death.

You have not addressed this issue.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5/5 3:55am:

You discuss what you describe as an "obvious" vendetta. Why are Duke and Durham conducting a vendetta against Mangum in the first place? Sid gives a non-answer, saying it is payback for her "role" in the lacrosse case. That explains nothing.

Can you explain why this is happening?

May 5, 2013 at 5:01 AM

You must not live in NC and you probably were not subjected to MAJOR ABUSE to EVERYONE in this state because of the Duke Lacrosse Case and all that it entailed, which was a lot more than most read about probably, but if you actually live here and see the carnage that is perpetuated at the hands of Duke and NC judicial system, etc., than you would understand better.

Duke will do that to ANYONE and EVERYONE who they want to - because they have gotten away with it for so long - and everyone knows it who ventures to determine the truth of the matter, or who reads the news in an unbiased manner.

You are lucky not to actually know that yet. It is a disturbing fact of living in NC and dealing with Duke.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, but I don't really understand your answer. The lacrosse case seems to be a case of prosecutorial misconduct. How does that make Duke the major force?

Anonymous said...

Why hasn't Duke refuted Dr. Harr's conclusions publically, especially about the medical errors when those details were published in the newspapers?

You would think they would owe at least their patients that much in reassurance. That is what I do not like about Duke in large part - they do these things - then expect everyone to ignore it or not care - even if they can't and they do.

That is professionally negligent, emotionally and mentally abusive, and in some cases holds great risk for medical malpratice by undue stress to fragile patients, as well as the loss of services to others who can no longer trust their professionalism from what they have seen or experienced with these cases.

Those things need to be addressed by the Joint Accredited Commission and Duke, along with the other medical and professional errors.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Thanks, but I don't really understand your answer. The lacrosse case seems to be a case of prosecutorial misconduct. How does that make Duke the major force?

May 5, 2013 at 5:28 AM

The Durham court house is also the Duke court house - they are one and the same. The Durham court system is actually run by Duke.

Why do you think Nifong was called rogue when he actually ventured to hold Duke accountable?

Anonymous said...

How did he venture to hold Duke accountable? By faming its students?

Anonymous said...

Correction. Sorry.

How did he venture to hold Duke accountable? By framing its students?

Anonymous said...

It is fairly clear to see that Duke does not give a damn about this great state of NC. They make a joke out of harming people, and then turn around and accuse and slander those whom complain about their harm, all the while, masters of mind control and political brainwashing techniques that they are, they continually push the harm from all directions, driven by fear, greed and corruption.

That is Duke today.

And they will continue unless the people who have been placed in power as representatives of we the people make them stop for we the people, and not play into their fear, greed and corruption thereby magnifying Duke's harm to even more of we the people.

Duke needs to stop harming we the people, for all - not just them.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Correction. Sorry.

How did he venture to hold Duke accountable? By framing its students?

May 5, 2013 at 5:43 AM

Do you think he started out trying to hold Duke accountable, or was he trying to frame the alleged perps from the very beginning?

Anonymous said...

I am sorry. I don't follow you.

How is Duke harming people? You haven't given any facts. I understand the allegations about Daye, but one possible case is not evidence of widespread abuse. Can you provide more examples?

Anonymous said...

District Attorney Nifong had the courage to challenge Duke, Rae Evans and the Herald Sun. He continues to pay price for bravery.

Anonymous said...

Of course you don't (follow me) - you would first have to change your Duke bias.

If you don't understand by now, that is your problem. I will not answer your attempts to not understand again.

thanks

Anonymous said...

Duke worked with the media in disparaging Mr. Nifong and raining in public contempt against a man who was merely doing his job, but in a dedicated and independent manner.

Anonymous said...

Duke worked with the media in disparaging Mr. Nifong and raining in public contempt against a man who was merely doing his job, but in a dedicated and independent manner.

Why didn't Nifong ask the DPD to conduct an investigation of Mangum's allegations? The changes in her details and her initial inability to identify her attackers raised questions about her credibility. Yet, the DPD made no bona fide attempt to find other evidence.

Why was that? Were they all incredibly lazy or were they framing defendants?

Anonymous said...

It appeared that Nifong and the DPD didn't really believe Mangum's allegations, but thought they would test for DNA. I think they believed that one or more of the players had paid for sex, and they were going to nail those players.

Nifong got ahead of himself, giving dozens of interviews. When the DNA tests came back negative, Nifong had to improvise. That was when they decided to frame players who had no sexual contact with Mangum.

Anonymous said...

District Attorney Nifong had the courage to challenge Duke, Rae Evans and the Herald Sun. He continues to pay price for bravery.

You have proven you are a troll. The Herald Sun was embarrassingly pro-Nifong during the lacrosse case.

Anonymous said...

Are you seriously stuck on that case?

Do you think it is ok for Duke and Durham court system to try to frame Ms. Mangum as response to the rape case and kill Mr. Daye and then turn around and charge Ms. Mangum for it?

Anonymous said...

Of course you don't (follow me) - you would first have to change your Duke bias.

If you don't understand by now, that is your problem. I will not answer your attempts to not understand again.


I apologize for trying your patience. I don't have a Duke bias. I am simply trying to understand.

I understand your general allegation, that Duke controls the state and hurts others as they abuse this power. However, you have provided nothing to support this allegation.

I generally am skeptical about allegations and require proof to accept them. You have provided no proof and appear to be as reliable as the poster who made the incredible allegation that Sidney murdered Daye.

I want facts. You seem to think that is bullying.

Anonymous said...

Do you think it is ok for Duke and Durham court system to try to frame Ms. Mangum as response to the rape case and kill Mr. Daye and then turn around and charge Ms. Mangum for it?

No. I don't.

I am waiting on evidence from a credible source to support that allegation. Sidney is not a credible source.

Anonymous said...

Have you watched his flog that details the medical examiner's and Duke medical reports yet? It is very clear and easy to understand without the assistance of medical knowledge.

If you trust your own intelligence, you will not need any other to understand.

Anonymous said...


I want facts. You seem to think that is bullying.


I do? You seem not to read the news or do not think that anyone was harmed in the Duke Lacrosse case. Why does that harm have to be explained to you?

Anonymous said...

I do not trust Harr. He has shown consistently that he is willing to say anything he imagines will help him make his case. He is not reliable. He has been caught telling lies, spinning facts, making misleading statements and applying double standards.

On one side, he have Harr. On the other, we have Nichols and Roberts. In addition, we have claims from posters who claim to be doctors or have friends who are doctors. Walt claims that one of the news organizations hired a physician to review Harr's claims. All of these posters claim that Harr's analysis is flawed.

While we obviously cannot verify these anonymous claims, you are asking that we rely on a known liar.

No thanks. I will wait for the trial.

Anonymous said...

I think I asked if you had actually watched the flog that details the medical examiner's and Duke's medical reports. They are highly contradictory - as Dr. Harr points out. Unless those documents are not real - Dr. Harr shows quite clearly the discrepancies between the medical examiner and the Duke medical reports.

Anonymous said...

I do not read the local news from NC.

The people harmed in the lacrosse case were primarily the falsely accused defendants.

Nifong deserved far more punishment than he received. The DPD officers faced almost no punishment. Mangum made false accusations; if she can't be held responsible for her own actions, she can credit Nifong for her notoriety. Nifong publicly tried a case with what he later described as "no credible evidence."

Duke has been harshly criticized for its conduct in the lacrosse case. It's victims were primarily its own students.

Anonymous said...

I think I told you I do not trust Harr. He is a proven liar.

Yes. I watched the flogs. Yes. I saw the inconsistencies Harr highlighted.

I do not know whether these inconsistencies can be explained otherwise. Nichols and Roberts apparently think so. Other posters apparently think so.

Harr has no credibility. I do not trust him. Sidney tends to reach his conclusion before he reviews the evidence. His review is then conducted to confirm his conclusion.

I do not trust Harr. He is a liar.

Anonymous said...

Let's not forget that Duke arrested Dr. Harr for handing out his business card on campus. If his close friend James Coleman had not intervened, Dr. Harr would have suffered even more severe consequences from this vindictive action.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
District Attorney Nifong had the courage to challenge Duke, Rae Evans and the Herald Sun. He continues to pay price for bravery.

You have proven you are a troll. The Herald Sun was embarrassingly pro-Nifong during the lacrosse case.

May 5, 2013 at 6:23 AM


Great work Sherlock. Does anyone post here who is not a troll?

Anonymous said...

Harr was not arrested.

Let's not forget that we have never Been told the full story behind the decision to remove him from campus. We have heard only Sidney's version. Again, I remind you that Harr is a proven liar.

I speculate that Sidney was acting like the arrogant, but uninformed, know-it-all he acts on this blog. He engaged in discussion with other attendees, who found Sidney's antics to be annoying. Some people don't find enlightenment from a complete moron to be funny. Some people don't like to be called liars or brainwashed because they disagree with an imbecile. They tried to end the conversation, but Sidney persisted. They took his card to management and complained.

I asked Sidney about his actions, and his answer was disingenuous.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I do not read the local news from NC.

A lot of people don't.
They are happily ensconced in their own worlds until or unless they actually have to deal with the reality of NC or they do read the news (at least to some degree).

The people harmed in the lacrosse case were primarily the falsely accused defendants.

No, everyone was harmed - they actually are the only ones to benefit so far.

Nifong deserved far more punishment than he received. The DPD officers faced almost no punishment. Mangum made false accusations; if she can't be held responsible for her own actions, she can credit Nifong for her notoriety. Nifong publicly tried a case with what he later described as "no credible evidence."

None of that was proven - since there was "no credible evidence."

Duke has been harshly criticized for its conduct in the lacrosse case. It's victims were primarily its own students.

No, that is what they would like for you to believe - everyone got harmed - only its own students (and perhaps them and others affiliated with them) benefited from the case.

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Anonymous said...
"I speculate that Sidney was acting like the arrogant, but uninformed, know-it-all he acts on this blog. He engaged in discussion with other attendees, who found Sidney's antics to be annoying. Some people don't find enlightenment from a complete moron to be funny. Some people don't like to be called liars or brainwashed because they disagree with an imbecile. They tried to end the conversation, but Sidney persisted. They took his card to management and complained."


You say you're speculating?


Anonymous said...

So everyone was harmed, but you can't describe the harm.

I see.

Anonymous said...

Yes. I am speculating. That was why I said so.

My point is that we do not know what triggered the decision to remove Sidney from campus.

Sidney Harr is a proven liar. His account should not be taken at face value.

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Anonymous said...

So everyone was harmed, but you can't describe the harm.

I see.

May 5, 2013 at 7:41 AM

I can describe the harm actually, I just don't want to here, now, and with you since there is no reason to that I can see, as I don't want to in the first place and there would be no benefit if I did anyway, so why do it?

Just the fact that I just wrote that blurb above is harm enough to me actually. The fact that you do not understand the harm yet is too your discredit, as you seem very unaware of the harm that was done to all and will continue ... because of Duke. They do have a evil mascot figure for a reason afterall.

Anonymous said...

No. The fact that I do not understand the harm is not to my discredit. It is entirely due to the fact that those who claim to have been harmed refuse to explain.

Can I claim now that you have harmed me because I just wrote the blurb above?

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