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Potpourri of Sensational Snippets -- June 2013


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Anonymous said...

Ken-ny, Ken-ny, Ken-ny

June 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"The onus is always on the accuser to support their accusation. That's our system. It's always stacked in favor of the accused."

A fact which, your guilt presuming racism, you persistently ignore.

"On this blog as a defender of the alleged victim"

Wow! Here is a first. KENHYDERAL says Crystal was the ALLEGED victim.

"I am held to a higher standard then those who support the accused. I accept that."

No you don't, so far as the phoney rape case is concerned. You have de facto argued that the accused be presumed guilty. E.G. in the argument over Crystal's state of intoxication at the party, you dismiss eye witness statements that she was intoxicated when she arrived at the party as "self serving". The only way you could think that is to presume the witnesses were covering up a crime.

"My speculations were certainly not supported by the shoddy and inadequate Police investigation of the alleged crime."

Your speculations would not have been supported under any circumstances. The evidence that no crime happened was overwhelming.

"When Crystal's present legal situation is resolved efforts will be made to re-open the Duke Lacrosse Case."

Not likely. When there is no evidence a crime happened in the first place, there is no justification to initiate a new investigation.

"Perhaps evidence in the form of sworn testimony will be available to support Crystal's charge".

Any one coming forward more than 7 years after the alleged crime would have to establish credibility. How could such a witness establish credibility in the face of the overwhelming objective evidence that no crime happened.

June 29, 2013 at 5:11 PM
Anonymous said...

Kenny is a troll.

Kenny is a troll.

Kenny is a troll.

June 29, 2013 at 6:29 PM
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June 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM
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June 29, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Anonymous said...

pehaps crystal , like OJ, will write a book about the lax case. hers will be entitled "If I DID lie, it was ok, because a working girl is entitled to screw over her johns"

June 30, 2013 at 4:05 AM
Anonymous said...

Seems to me it is pretty clear that individuals like sidney harr and ken edwards can fairly be labeled racist in their thinking and worldview. I say this because both of them ASSUME that a large group of people are out to "get" Mangum, are in on some of kind orchestrated conspiracy to throw her in prison, are completely lacking in character and professional ethics, are motivated (individually and as a group) solely by revenge, are actively meeting to coordinate their conspiratorial behaviors, and are in league with national media, major academic institutions like Harvard, funded by some kind of nameless benefactor who hates black people. that's racist! The motivation for all this conspiracy and determined revenge? To get even with crystal mangum? that's not only racist, that's ridiculous!
Mangum deserves a FAIR trial, represented by competent counsel. And, by all accounts (except Harr's of course), Holmes is competent. He has a long well documented reptutation, fighting in social justice cases, and representing black clients. In other words, he walks the walk, sidney......unless you, who only talk the talk.

June 30, 2013 at 7:19 AM
Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

First, I will be uploading the July flogazine on Tuesday, July 2, 2013. Being the perfectionist that I am, I would much rather sacrifice being a little tardy and producing a slightly inferior product.

Second, The Durham News, an insert community newspaper of The News & Observer allowed for me to be a guest columnist in today's edition. Click on LINK to access the article.

June 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Seems to me it is pretty clear that individuals like sidney harr and ken edwards can fairly be labeled racist in their thinking and worldview. I say this because both of them ASSUME that a large group of people are out to "get" Mangum, are in on some of kind orchestrated conspiracy to throw her in prison, are completely lacking in character and professional ethics, are motivated (individually and as a group) solely by revenge, are actively meeting to coordinate their conspiratorial behaviors, and are in league with national media, major academic institutions like Harvard, funded by some kind of nameless benefactor who hates black people. that's racist! The motivation for all this conspiracy and determined revenge? To get even with crystal mangum? that's not only racist, that's ridiculous!
Mangum deserves a FAIR trial, represented by competent counsel. And, by all accounts (except Harr's of course), Holmes is competent. He has a long well documented reptutation, fighting in social justice cases, and representing black clients. In other words, he walks the walk, sidney......unless you, who only talk the talk.


Exposing a conspiracy does not make one a racist. I am an enlightener and rectifier. A crusader for truth and justice.

June 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Second, The Durham News, an insert community newspaper of The News & Observer allowed for me to be a guest columnist in today's edition. Click on LINK to access the article."

Nothing you have published in your miserable excuse of a column has any factual support.

June 30, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Exposing a conspiracy does not make one a racist."

One is a racist when one alleges without proof that a conspiracy was the reason innocent Caucasian men were not wrongfully convicted of raping false accuser/victimizer Crystal Mangum.

"I am an enlightener and rectifier. A crusader for truth and justice."

No, you are a blatant unrepentant ignorant racist liar.

June 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Walt said...

Sid wrote: "Second, The Durham News, an insert community newspaper of The News & Observer allowed for me to be a guest columnist in today's edition."

Sadly, the N&O published Sid's rehash of what he routinely writes here. Again, he provided no facts to support his allegations and no law to support his legal theory. Indeed, he ignored the proximate cause doctrine completely, as well as St. v. Welch and St. v. Holsclaw. Again, a failure to persuade.

June 30, 2013 at 1:09 PM
kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @ 7:19 said: " funded by some kind of nameless benefactor who hates black people. that's racist"..................Huh?? Where in the world did this come from?? The forces lined up on the side of Duke and against Crystal Mangum belong to all races. She has been sacrificed to protect the "powers that be"(read Duke). This case is not and never was about race. Unfortunately, though, from an outsider's point of view, there seems to exist in North Carolina a selective justice system that's based on race and especially on class. Poor people of all races are victims.

June 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM
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June 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM
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June 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Huh?? Where in the world did this come from?? The forces lined up on the side of Duke and against Crystal Mangum belong to all races."

There is no coalition of powers and forces lined up against Crystal Mangum.

"She has been sacrificed to protect the "powers that be"(read Duke). This case is not and never was about race."

Crystal ruined her own life, by falsely accusing three innocent men of raping her, by falsely reporting to the police she had been raped. Vital to Crystal ruining her own life was corrupt DA NIFONG deciding to prosecute the case in spite of having no evidence to support the case.

"Unfortunately, though, from an outsider's point of view, there seems to exist in North Carolina a selective justice system that's based on race and especially on class. Poor people of all races are victims."

No, that is your blatant, unrepentant racist view of the Lacrosse case and of Crystal's continued self destructive behavior. Aiders and abetters of Crystal include such people as SIDNEY HARR and yourself who encourage Crystal to believe she has done nothing wrong and is the victim of a non existent vendetta.

June 30, 2013 at 7:23 PM
Walt said...

Kenheydral wrote: "The forces lined up on the side of Duke and against Crystal Mangum belong to all races. She has been sacrificed to protect the "powers that be"(read Duke). This case is not and never was about race. Unfortunately, though, from an outsider's point of view, there seems to exist in North Carolina a selective justice system that's based on race and especially on class. Poor people of all races are victims."

Crystal's case is not an example of a selective justice system based on race or class. Her prosecution is amply supported by probable cause. If she was rich or even middle class, she would be getting the same treatment. Indeed , she has managed to pick and fire able attorneys a privilege not available to most clients of the Public Defender's office. If anything, Crystal's case is a counter argument to your thesis that there is a class based justice system in North Carolina.

Sadly, Crystals's case will be used as an example of how there is not a class based system and it will be used to illustrate that poor people and people of color get the same and even better breaks than whites.

Walt-in-Durham

June 30, 2013 at 7:24 PM
Anonymous said...

There is not one shred of evidence to back up wild claims that mangum has been sacrificed to protect Duke. In fact, most of us who have cared for Duke in the past, and who were horrified by the Brodhead-Group of 88-it's not about the truth crap at Duke, would say that the LAX guys were thrown under the bridge by Duke until it became abundantly clear that nifong was a lying scumbag, that Mangum was a lying manipulator and that integrity in the DA's office was as hard to find as a clean men's toilet.
To this day, many of us continue to send Duke 88 dirty pennies every year in response to their endless fund drives. Until Brodhead leaves, this practice will continue.
Mangum has waaaaay too many second and third and fourth chances, waaaay too many passes. I agree with Walt; defendants do NOT routinely get to run through four different lawyers , wasting the court's time, and attorney resources. She has gotten away with lawyer roulette for far too long. Had she been held accountable for lying in 2006, maybe, just maybe Mr. Daye would not be dead today. Had she been held accountable for the violent threats and violence against property in the Walker case, maybe Daye would not be dead today.
I have no idea whether she will be convicted of first degree murder. I doubt it. I think she will get off with manslaughter and time served, plus a little bit. Fine, if the jury so determines, I will respect whatever the verdict.
But to somehow claims that poor Mangum is the victim of a plot to get her, is sheer unadulterated racist rubbish. From trash minds.

July 1, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Just for the fun of it, sidney.......what if daye had picked up a knife and stabbed Mangum? What if she died? what if, AFTER she died, he came up with the idea that SHE had been beating the crap out of HIM? What if there was no evidence on his face and neck to prove his assertion that she was beating him? In other words, what if it were the exact opposite situation? Would YOU be on this web site, defending Daye? I sincerely absolutely doubt it......


I would defend Daye against being charged with murder if he inflicted a non-fatal stab wound to Mangum and she had a condition unrelated to the stab wound which required intubation and she was intubated in the esophagus and eventually died as a result of it.

Keep in mind, the stab wound had nothing to do with Daye's death. Duke University Hospital is responsible for Daye's death.

July 18, 2013 at 7:25 AM
Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous @1:57 said: "I stay here to refute the not so slick racist statements you make" ......... "Can you give an example of a racist statement I have made?"..... "

How about this:

"[Crystal] does not have the resources to combat the horrendous injustices she has been subjected to by evil doers and by a corrupt judicial system."

You say this because Crystal is black and you believe, without any justification, that innocent Caucasian men raped her. That is racist, whether you want to own up to it or not.


Anonymous, you fail miserably to try and support your claim that kenhyderal is a racist. All he did was state the obvious. That doesn't make him a racist.

July 18, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

It is not necessary for anyone to prove that KENHYDERAL is a racist. His attitudes towards Crystal, his attitudes toward George Zimmerman proclaim for the world to hear and see that he is a blatant, unrepentant, hypocritical racist.

July 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM
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