justice4nifong: Murder at Duke University Hospital: The case for Reginald Daye's demise being intentional

Saturday, October 26, 2013

Murder at Duke University Hospital: The case for Reginald Daye's demise being intentional

The YouTube video below is Part One

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Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, believe me, Dr. Roberts knows not only that Daye died as a result of an esophageal intubation, but she is also aware that the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols is false and fraudulent."

That's not what you reported. That's your opinion based on nothing. Roberts and Nichols are M.D.s of substantial experience. They saw the records, and offered their known expert opinions. The defense has been unable to find any other physician who could be called as an expert to refute the Roberts and Nichols opinions. That means there was no intervening cause. Even you admit you cannot prove medical murder. And of course Welch and Holesclaw mean that anything short of medical murder is not an intervening cause. No matter how much you wish the law to be as maleable as fiction.

"I believe that attorneys on both sides, along with the media, will try to keep that hidden from the public." They are not hiding anything. Indeed, Nichols is going to testify unless Crystal stipulates. (Which would be a about the only thing she can do after your sabotage of that part of her case.)

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Walt, if C. J. Leslie were not an athlete, and was instead a computer nerd attending NC State, and his car got wrecked and he needed transportation, would you criticize Eric Leak for lending him one of his cars?"

Of course I wouldn't. But, that's not the situation. And, portraying this as some kind of act of charity is not the situation either. Leak didn't go down to the rescue mission to help the homeless. He sought out a future NBA star and befriended him with future gain in mind.

Walt-in-Durham

Think, Walt, Think. If you were a graduated college jock, and a student athlete at your alma mater needed some short term transportation, wouldn't you help him out by lending him a car if you could? Of course you would.

Really, Leak unconditionally loaned the car to Leslie... it's not like he had Leslie sign a contract or agree to some other kind of commitment. Your belief that Leak's actions were motivated solely for the expectation of future recompense from a possible Leslie professional career is nothing more than pure unadulterated, unsubstantiated speculation.; November 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I'm too busy to do research work for you. Take the advice of our governor Pat McCrory and 'get off your butt and do it yourself.'"

I have done the research. I have established you have had neither the training nor the experience to render competent opinions on either Dr. Nichols or Dr. Roberts.

If you were to testify under oath that Dr. Roberts lied about her findings, you would have to establish your competence as an expert,. What would you happen if you told the court to research the question itself. Probably you would end up incarcerated for contempt.

In any event, your response means nothing except you can not establish any real credentials for yourself. It is another impotent attempt on your part to institute personal posterior camouflage.; November 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, believe me, Dr. Roberts knows not only that Daye died as a result of an esophageal intubation, but she is also aware that the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols is false and fraudulent. I believe that attorneys on both sides, along with the media, will try to keep that hidden from the public."

You demonstrate how unworthy of belief you are.; November 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Anonymous at 6:42 AM wrote: "She's in a pickle....seemingly...either way. If the LAX mess can come in, then she is gonna have one helluva time getting a jury to believe her self defense claim based on her veracity, alone."

If I was to handicap the rulings, I think lacrosse stays out unless she opens the door.

"With no physical beating, that might be a tough hurdle for her attorney."

That is the biggest problem for self-defense. It all hinges on her testimony. This time she doesn't have a good witness-cop to tell her version of the story. She's got a cop who will say she lawyered up and all he knows is what the late Reginald Daye told him and that is all backed up by the physical evidence. Opening rounds go to the state.

"If the LAX stuff does not come in, AND, she testifies, would the state try to bring in her history of violence (against Walker and his property?)."

I have not seen the motions, I will, hopefully, later today. Maybe even the judge's rulings. (That's wishful thinking, the Judge will take this all under advisement.) However, I don't think Meier will be so foolish as to let the state have a chance to bring in the Walker case. If he does, Crystal's in trouble.

"If she does not testify, AND the LAX history is kept out, then I guess her attorney might think he has a shot."

That's what's called plea bargining with the jury, which is Meier's best shot. He will argue that she's not a murderer, just a stabber who doesn't deserve life in prison, but a lesser sentence. She didn't mean to kill him, that part was all just a mistake - have mercy on her, please, please, please.

"She's a proven liar....multiple lies in the LAX case. If the LAX case does not come in, then I still think the state will find ti fairly easy to introduce "interesting contradictions" around her statements concerning stabbing Daye."

Rest assured, the state is going to point out her interesting contradictions surrounding the stabbing of Daye. Just because I think the jury will go for misdemeanor manslaughter doesn't mean that will happen. If things go well for the state, and Sid has made sure that at least the intervening cause issue will go very well for the state, they could get a long sentence.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, keep on dreaming. Despite a feather-weight defense in the 2010 arson case, Mangum was not convicted. So even if Meier puts up a sham of a defense (and protects the medical examiner and Duke University Hospital), it is unlikely that Mangum will get convicted. Face it, the State doesn't have a case.

I would be interested in knowing about the motions filed by Meier. That would help me know how aggressive his defense will be.; November 6, 2013 at 7:54 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"'Anonymous said...
How 'bout you post some pictures of your dead wife?'

Why?"

Maybe to show you care as much respect for your wife as you do for Reginald Daye and his family.; November 6, 2013 at 7:54 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I'm too busy to do research work for you. Take the advice of our governor Pat McCrory and 'get off your butt and do it yourself.'"

I have done the research. I have established you have had neither the training nor the experience to render competent opinions on either Dr. Nichols or Dr. Roberts.

If you were to testify under oath that Dr. Roberts lied about her findings, you would have to establish your competence as an expert,. What would you happen if you told the court to research the question itself. Probably you would end up incarcerated for contempt.

In any event, your response means nothing except you can not establish any real credentials for yourself. It is another impotent attempt on your part to institute personal posterior camouflage.

I'm not the one who asked about my credentials.; November 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, thanks for the continued updates. No surprise, but the mainstream media is trying to suppress as much about this case as possible. There was nothing in the News & Observer, and the only TV news station that I am aware of covering Mangum's case is ABC-11."

Maybe you should explain why the media should pay more attention to this than to recen events, like the elections or the recent events of gun violence.; November 6, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"'Anonymous said...
How 'bout you post some pictures of your dead wife?'

Why?"

Maybe to show you care as much respect for your wife as you do for Reginald Daye and his family.

I do care for the Daye family. I am upset that the Durham Police gave him the moniker of Richard Dong. I am upset that the prosecution keeps dragging the family to court to show them off and have them glare at Mangum. I am upset that the family doesn't realize that Daye's death was due to malpractice at Duke University Hospital and the real probability that his death could have been intentional. And I am upset that the State and media will not investigate Daye's death and autopsy report so that the Daye family can know the truth.; November 6, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, keep on dreaming. Despite a feather-weight defense in the 2010 arson case, Mangum was not convicted."

You forget Crystal had a sham of a judge.

"So even if Meier puts up a sham of a defense (and protects the medical examiner and Duke University Hospital), it is unlikely that Mangum will get convicted. Face it, the State doesn't have a case."

You again purvey a bare faced lie as truth, saying Duke has to be protected.

"I would be interested in knowing about the motions filed by Meier. That would help me know how aggressive his defense will be."

I am sure you would be, considering your deluded megalomania.

One thing that was in the media is that Crystal wants any reference to the Lacrosse case excluded. If that happens Crystal will not be able to claim she is the victim of a vendetta precipitated by the Lacroose case, in which she falsely accused three innocent men of raping her.

I love it when a plan comes together.; November 6, 2013 at 8:03 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I do care for the Daye family. I am upset that the Durham Police gave him the moniker of Richard Dong. I am upset that the prosecution keeps dragging the family to court to show them off and have them glare at Mangum. I am upset that the family doesn't realize that Daye's death was due to malpractice at Duke University Hospital and the real probability that his death could have been intentional. And I am upset that the State and media will not investigate Daye's death and autopsy report so that the Daye family can know the truth."

BULLSHIT!!!!

Here you again try to promulgate lies as truth and then claim you want the Daye family t know the truth.

Delusioned, megalomaniacal HYPOCRITE!!!!; November 6, 2013 at 8:06 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

What do you think of the siuation, that Crystal does not want to testify that she is the victim of a vendetta precipitated by the phoney Duke rape case?; November 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I'm not the one who asked about my credentials."

No, you are the one who has tried to conceal a total lack of credentials.

I can assure you, as one who has testified as an expert witness in a civil case and in a criminal case, if you wanted a court to accept you as a competent physician you would have to establish your credentials.; November 6, 2013 at 8:11 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, keep on dreaming. Despite a feather-weight defense in the 2010 arson case, Mangum was not convicted."

You forget Crystal had a sham of a judge.

"So even if Meier puts up a sham of a defense (and protects the medical examiner and Duke University Hospital), it is unlikely that Mangum will get convicted. Face it, the State doesn't have a case."

You again purvey a bare faced lie as truth, saying Duke has to be protected.

"I would be interested in knowing about the motions filed by Meier. That would help me know how aggressive his defense will be."

I am sure you would be, considering your deluded megalomania.

One thing that was in the media is that Crystal wants any reference to the Lacrosse case excluded. If that happens Crystal will not be able to claim she is the victim of a vendetta precipitated by the Lacroose case, in which she falsely accused three innocent men of raping her.

I love it when a plan comes together.

What do you mean that she had a sham judge for the arson case? Keep in mind it was the jury, and not the judge, that reached the mistrial. Trying to put the blame on the poor judge, huh.; November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I'm not the one who asked about my credentials."

No, you are the one who has tried to conceal a total lack of credentials.

I can assure you, as one who has testified as an expert witness in a civil case and in a criminal case, if you wanted a court to accept you as a competent physician you would have to establish your credentials.

I never said I wanted to testify in Crystal's case. It's not necessary for me to testify, as any competent physician would reach the same conclusions as did I.; November 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

What do you think of the siuation, that Crystal does not want to testify that she is the victim of a vendetta precipitated by the phoney Duke rape case?

I think that she has a very strong case for making that claim. She shouldn't be frightened of the Duke Lacrosse case. But then, I'm not the one who's giving her legal advice.; November 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"What do you mean that she had a sham judge for the arson case? Keep in mind it was the jury, and not the judge, that reached the mistrial. Trying to put the blame on the poor judge, huh."

Huh yourself. Judge Jones described Crystal as a good mother in the face of overwhelming evidence she was not. The Jury hung. Judge Jones then declated a mistrial and then dismissed the arson charge. She was not found not guilty.; November 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I never said I wanted to testify in Crystal's case. It's not necessary for me to testify, as any competent physician would reach the same conclusions as did I."

You again promulgate a lie. Dr. Nichols and Dr. Roberts both have training and experience in Forensic pathology. You do not. They are competent. You are not. They do not agree with you. No competent physician agrees with you.; November 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I think that she has a very strong case for making that claim. She shouldn't be frightened of the Duke Lacrosse case."

So why does she not want the Duke Lacrosse case raised at trial?

"But then, I'm not the one who's giving her legal advice."

Whn have you ever given her competent legal advice?; November 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I never said I wanted to testify in Crystal's case."

Probably because you do not want to be asked at trial about your credentials, or lack thereof.

"any competent physician would reach the same conclusions as did I."

Name one. Not Dr. Roberts. She did not reach the same conclusion that you did.

Maybe you don't want to testify because you do know no competent physician has ever agreed with you.; November 6, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Post a quote from some competent physician who agrees with your claim that the autopsy report is fraudulent.

So far you have not been able to cite anyone who believes you except, maybe, some anonymous 5th Grader who does not exist.; November 6, 2013 at 9:46 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous in quoting Kurt Andersen said "Only one tiny little problem with Wahneeeeeema's orgasmic anticipation of lynching the LAX guys……darn it, the poor single mother enrolled in the local black college was a LIAR, Aw, shucks" :........ Well, let me quote the same Kurt Andersen in an interview to Psychology Today Magazine
"every individual's understanding of the truth is incomplete"; November 6, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Indeed, troll, you should know.........your understanding of the truth is so incomplete, your ass is hanging out between the seams.; November 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Well, let me quote the same Kurt Andersen in an interview to Psychology Today Magazine
'every individual's understanding of the truth is incomplete'".

In your case your understanding of the teuth is non existent.; November 6, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Ah, the 2010 "arson case"...don't you just love how asshat harr tries to twist things. It was not an "arson case". Arson was one of the charges, bro...not the entire case. Mangum WAS convicted on the other charges.....including child abuse, bro....and, as I recall, three other charges. The jury hung on the arson charge.
And, oh, just in case your dementia has progressed to the point you don't remember, Mangum subsequently ADMITTED THAT SHE DID IN FACT SET THE FIRE!
You? Care about Reginald Daye? ROFLMAO and TUIMM.
We all know you are a failed incompetent inexperienced person who got an MD degree. You have ZERO credentials and we all know that, too. And, we all know what a racist loser you are.; November 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Anonymous said...: WRAL has news story up. LAX questioning by the state will not be in...unless pertaining to her credibility, etc.....which is what we thought might happen. No individual questioning about LAX case, as Meier had wanted. But, yep, questioning of potential jurors about LAX will be included, just not on an individual separate basis.

seems to me meier is putting up a decent effort.......of course, it wouldn't be as good as Columboasshat.....but, golly, short of Atticus, who would!!; November 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...: prosecutor wants freedom to call Daye the victim. Meier tried, unsuccessfully, to get the judge to not allow Daye to be called the victim. Some people would say the alledged victim.......; November 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Anonymous said...: If I were a candidate for a jurur on this case, I would immediately form some very strong opinions about the lacrosse case and voice them soundly if questioned bout them.; November 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: yep, me, too, Anon. I have strong opinions about the LAX case. And, I don't see any connection between the LAX case and the Daye killing....EXCEPT when it comes to establishment of Mangum's credibility and reputation for truthfulness/untruthfulness. She LIED then and she is STILL LYING...because she still continues to whine, around the edges, about what happened. She has never come out publicly and simply...and said, "I was not raped, touched, fondled, or messed with in it damn way, I lied about it, and I am sorry".
But......just because she lied about the LAX case then, and even now, does not necessarily mean she is lying about Daye. THAT, to me, is the heart of the matter. If her story/account of what happened were true, then there should have been physical evidence of all that beating, choking, punching, that she has claimed to have experienced. There was NONE.
If I were a juror and questioned, I would be straight-up clear that I thought then, as I think now, that Mangum lied.......AND, I would say that I have no clue, till all the evidence comes out at trial, whether she is lying, now, about Daye. Past behavior can be, sometimes is, a predictor of future behavior. Not always, but sometimes.
I think she is going to have one helluva time trying to keep her stories straight on cross.; November 6, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Anonymous said...: My strong opinions would not be about Ms. Mangum - they would be about duke and false flag events in the USA over the years that have harmed many.

Also, How can this even work? Why would you want someone on the juror who doesn't read or watch the news? Many people don't of course, because they have very busy lives and other priorities, but that to me indicates that they can't truly form a biased opinion with an open mind because they have not exposed themselves enough to what is going on in the world in order to do so - so therefore - if Ms. Mangum does read the news and is informed - are they truly her peers and are they truly informed persons that would be wanted to be included on a jury?

Can you read the news or watch media and not form a strong opinion about the lacrosse case might be a better question to ask a potential jury member perhaps?; November 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 11:19 AM wrote: "WRAL has news story up...."

Must be part of that media conspiracy to keep a lid on this story that loopy old Sid keeps writing about. Just that WRAL and WTVD didn't get the memo.

Of course, a stripper/hooker murdering her shack job is just too good a story for the jurnos to ignore.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Walt said...: One thing new that came from today's hearing is the defense is claiming self-defense based on battered spouse. That is a defense normally made by an expert witness. Namely a psychologist who will testify that he has seen the defendant and examined her and says she meets the criteria for a battered spouse. That then would explain her use of deadly force to defend herself.

What is unique here is the defense has no expert noticed up. They're going to try and make the case on the strength of Crystal's own testimony and that of the investigating officers. Risky, but not unheard of. There is a good deal of criticism in the psychiatric community of psychologists and psychiatrists testifying on behalf of battered batterers. 64 Fordham L.Rev. 141.

Regardless Meier is mounting a competent defense. Contrast that with the sabotage and gross incompetency evidenced by Sid. (Remember, Sid filed a motion to dismiss claiming the Insurance code provided authority for dismissal.)

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Anonymous said...: From the scant I have read, the battered spouse defense typically has to show a pattern of abuse (mental ,physical, etc) over time that results observable measurable harm, and/or has the impact of altering the battered person's life, work, other relationships, etc. Specifically, the battered spouse typically withdraws or is forced to withdraw from other relationships, demonstrates signs and symptoms of depression such as weight loss/gain, substance abuse, engages in what is called flip-flop behavior (loves the batterer in public, fears in private). The defense also apparently needs to show that Mangum believed, and a reasonable person would believe, that she had no other choice but to kill Daye. She never offered any statements previously about him being a bad guy or an abuser. In fact, she said he was helping her out, treating her well, and that the incident that led to the abuse was unique. At least, she said that initially.........then, changed her story. Harr ran his mouth about some prior visit to Specialty Hospital ER but nothing else has been said about it. And, of course, she showed no signs of being beaten, choked, etc.
I am kinda laughing, too, at the notion of "battered spouse". The courts have been pretty definite about what constitutes spouse.....it doesn't have to be spouse, as in married. But, some jurors might have a hard time with the idea that a couple of weeks of shacking up, while she was doing "party jobs" for "clients", would be a "spouse" kind of relationship.; November 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Anonymous said...: As far as Ms. Mangum goes tho, practically every third story or so about duke in the local news has stated, Ms. Mangum the person who falsly accused the duke lacrosse players for years on end - so either the juror memeber reads or watches the news - or they don't - because that has been the bias portrayed against Ms. Mangum in the local news for years on end. You cannot live in the juror selection area and not read stories about duke on a daily basis in the local news, nor can you escape duke's presence anywhere as they have a widely publicized presence in the area, and they provide life and death medical services.

I wouldn't really believe someone if they said they didn't have a strong opinion about the matter in this area, and that they haven't heard the 'news' yet.; November 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Walt, I wonder if Meier will go so far as to try to ascribe the 'battered woman syndrome" to Mangum. that's a huge leap.....there are well defined behavioral characteristics in the literature. Another problem with claiming battered spouse as the basis for self defense is that, in some cases, a jury found that the batterer did not, and should have, made at least some attempt to get help...talking to relatives about abuse, responding to family members who notice abuse, talking to a healthcare provider or preacher or police......filing a restaining order.....etc. Mangum did none of that. As far as I know, there is no evidence that sh ever went to anybody and claimed that Daye was serially abusing her.
The fact that she was actively engaging in her, uh, profession...while she was shacking with him....and that she never said he was mad that she was a working girl.....kinda makes it hard to swallow that she now would claim being battered.
I do agree........Meier is doing his best.; November 6, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Anonymous said...: That is not true - she did ask for help - even from a cop right before it happened - and a friend from what I read here - as well as going to relatives when it happened to receive safety and help.; November 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Not correct. She never went to anybody before she stabbed him. After she stabbed Daye, she went to her relative's home…..where her child was. But there is no evidence that she ever went to anybody BEFORE she killed Daye….
if you have something different, provide your source documentation; November 6, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...: I would like to know how a person can claim that they stabbed a man, in self defense, after an hour of being beaten and choke….and…then have the presence of mind to grab their purse….run out….and run to the place where their child was. What kind of idiot mother would do that???? If I were scared shitless that a wild drunken man, who I had stabbed, might be following me……I would yell my head off….and the last damn place I would go….would be where I child was. This is ridiculous….. Oh, I will stab your ass to keep you from killing me…and, oh, while I am at it, I will get my purse and run to my child. Right, sure., Idiot!; November 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM
Anonymous said...: On what do you base your opinion? You keep saying what you say above, but obviously someone might do that - since apparently perhaps they might have - don't know. You'd have to get the advice of an expert on those things I would suspect to get a professional opinion on those matters for this trial perhaps.

There is a trial scheduled for all that info / evidence - check then for details is what I would recommend.; November 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 5:42 PM wrote: "You'd have to get the advice of an expert on those things I would suspect to get a professional opinion on those matters for this trial perhaps."

You will be sadly disappointed. Individual jurors are considered experts on matters of everyday life. An expert opinion such as you pose would invade the province of the jury. Also, other than Dr. Nichols, no experts are noticed up.

"There is a trial scheduled for all that info / evidence - check then for details is what I would recommend."

That is actually a cogent comment. I do encourage as many people as can to go to the trial and watch. I am too busy to break away for much of the trial, but I am going to try and make some.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 6:26 PM
Anonymous said...: So your saying stabbing someone in self-defense if their throwing knives at you, attack, and try to choke you is an everyday experience Walt, and that jurors in the selection area for this trial are expected to know what someone would normally do in a situation like that? Or what?; November 6, 2013 at 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...: It will be easier to prove she is suffering from a syndrome related to battering than it will be to prove that she is not from what I've seen happen to her in the media, etc.

If her new lawyer is taking this approach, and therefore does not think that what she did in self-defense was insane or does not fit the situation of self-defense - but was a normal reaction to what happened for someone who is suffering from a syndrome associated with battering in the situation she was in, that her reactions were normal for what she experienced. That would be an everyday life experience judgement of the event from someone who is counting on the judicial system to be ethical and work for justice I would think. If the prosecution thinks it wasn't a normal reaction to what she experienced, then they will have to prove that as well.; November 7, 2013 at 12:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 6, 2013 at 10:09 PM:

"So your saying stabbing someone in self-defense if their throwing knives at you, attack, and try to choke you is an everyday experience Walt, and that jurors in the selection area for this trial are expected to know what someone would normally do in a situation like that? Or what?"

There is no evidence Crystal was under attack, not in the documents and photos SIDNEY posted. Self defense became Crystal's defense after Reginald Daye was dead and she was facing a charge of murder 1.; November 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

There is a WRAL news report today of the ME in this case being questioned for an autopsy in another case that was sent to the SBI to investigate by another counties DA. You would probably need to get a DA to send your concerns to the SBI as well if it is not addressed in this case perhaps? Have you asked the DA in Durham to ask the SBI to investigate your concerns yet?; November 7, 2013 at 5:25 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 10:09 PM wrote: "So your saying stabbing someone in self-defense if their throwing knives at you, attack, and try to choke you is an everyday experience"

Assuming facts not in evidence. Thus the basis of your position is flawed.

"...Walt, and that jurors in the selection area for this trial are expected to know what someone would normally do in a situation like that?"

It is very difficult to parse what you are asking. Strunk & White are your friends. Never the less, the NC pattern jury instructions say that jurors are experts at the ordinary matters of everyday life. If you are the initial poster who sought an expert, you are seeking to invade the province of the jury. Also, I don't see how you could certify an expert. What the defense could use an expert for is battered spouse syndrome. But, they have not noticed up an expert, so that's not where they are going at trial.

Walt-in-Durham; November 7, 2013 at 6:11 AM
Anonymous said...: As I understand it, Walt, Meier could claim battered spouse as the basis for her action, in self defense.....without going so far as to claim she suffered from battered spouse "syndrome" per se. Sounds like that might be the direction ..... i.e., that she was being serially abused, this violent drunken wild man (Daye), enraged, fueled by alcohol, went off on her, and she used an immediately available weapon to save herself.
that's going to be an interesting and difficult stretch. The physical evidence just isn't there to back up her story....and her storytelling history, if it gets in, sure isn't great.; November 7, 2013 at 6:48 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

There is a WRAL news report today of the ME in this case being questioned for an autopsy in another case that was sent to the SBI to investigate by another counties DA. You would probably need to get a DA to send your concerns to the SBI as well if it is not addressed in this case perhaps? Have you asked the DA in Durham to ask the SBI to investigate your concerns yet?

During 2012, I wrote Durham D.A. Stanback seven times to tell him that the autopsy report was false and fraudulent and that their case against Mangum didn't hold up. I pleaded with him to investigate. He never replied.; November 7, 2013 at 7:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt, I assume the prosecutor would point to no prior history of abuse by Daye, no physical evidence of a beating on Mangum, no prior "cry for help", Mangum's actions immediately after she stabbed him, etc.....to refute any claim of battered spouse. I also assume they would point to the very short timeframe of the relationship, her statement in evidence that he had helped her and her children, and her continued "dating" during the three or so weeks she shacked with Daye.
It still sounds like manslaughter..........It's going to be difficult to get to battered spouse-self defense.
Daye admitted he hit the doorframe, I think. And I think he admitted that they were fighting. The pictures of the apartment showed a mess in the place.......and obvious alcohol. Sure sounds like a push-n-shove domestic........but getting to murder is a stretch.; November 7, 2013 at 7:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt, I am going to make an effort to get to at least some of the trial....depending on when it happens. Jury selection is going to be interesting, too, since Meier made a statement that he knows the jury picks will be all about the LAX case attitudes. His best shot is to get jurors who would be sympethetic to Mangum as a "victim" of Big Duke. (ridiculous, but I bet that's what he will try to do......); November 7, 2013 at 7:16 AM
Anonymous said...: I have just stabbed a drunken wild man who has been beating the crap out of me for an hour, knocked down a door, drug me by the hair..........and what do I do? well, golly gee, I get my purse...and then I leave the place where he is.....knowing he is NOT DEAD and is talking....and I pass by doors to apartments where there are people who might help me....and I go to the place where my child is.....not knowing whether the drunken wild man is following me.
Right!!!!!!!!!; November 7, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Anonymous said...: OK< here's a pure hypothetical....just for discussion.
Assume the Duke lax case never happened....

A Durham woman with a prior criminal record that includes violence against persons and property stabs a man, who dies, during an alcohol fueld domestic argument. She has been living with him a couple of weeks. There is no evidence that she was physically beaten that day, but there is evidence that a door was pushed in and the guy who was stabbed admits he pushed it in. There is evidence the two had been arguing that same day.
Here's the question, if we assume the Duke Lax case never happened, and we go on the basis of her prior criminal record, and what we know about Daye's past and behavior that day........does this case end up murder, manslaughter, or self defense?; November 7, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"During 2012, I wrote Durham D.A. Stanback seven times to tell him that the autopsy report was false and fraudulent and that their case against Mangum didn't hold up. I pleaded with him to investigate. He never replied."

which should have been an indication to you that your allegations were uncorroborated and had no merit.; November 7, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 7:46 AM wrote, good hypothetical, BTW: "OK...Assume the Duke lax case never happened....does this case end up murder, manslaughter, or self defense?

I wrote early and nothing has transpired to change my view of this case, Manslaughter II based on the misdemeanor manslaughter rule. 2-3 year sentence based on her priors, credit for time served and she spends a few months to a year in prison.

Walt-in-Durham; November 7, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 9:45 AM wrote: "which should have been an indication to you that your allegations were uncorroborated and had no merit."

That has been Sid's problem all along and in every case he has commented on, he never offers proof or corroboration. He thinks that he can make the most scurrilious charges and that makes them facts. For those, like Anon at 9:45, Lance, A Lawyer, Break the Conspiracy, and Dr. Anonymous, we have tried to provide a reasonable basis for our observations and corroboration for our claims. On the whole, I think that is a better way to convince people of good will.

Walt-in-Durham; November 7, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Anonymous said...: No you haven't. You sit there and bully and troll the sheat out of anyone who says anything at all that goes against duke. what bs. As a professional, you shouldn't even be giving Dr. Harr legal advice to begin with on this blog - you only do it to support your evil duke troll on-line gang that runs between all the on-line web sites dolling out hate filled trolling on any that dare to question or comment on what duke does and how they do it. Why would Dr. Harr listen to you while your doing that Walt - would you?; November 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Poor 10:55. Please for the love of the English language.......strunk&white sweetheart.; November 7, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

"No you haven't. You sit there and bully and troll the sheat out of anyone who says anything at all that goes against duke. what bs. As a professional, you shouldn't even be giving Dr. Harr legal advice to begin with on this blog - you only do it to support your evil duke troll on-line gang that runs between all the on-line web sites dolling out hate filled trolling on any that dare to question or comment on what duke does and how they do it. Why would Dr. Harr listen to you while your doing that Walt - would you?"

More impotent, unimaginative name calling from the fabricator.

While we are at it, who in his/hw right mind would seek medical advice from someone with MD after his name, who never completed residency training(was that because he was rejected for residency training?), who spent most of his post medical school career filing and losing frivolous lawsuits. For that matter, why would anyone seek legal advice from him?; November 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Anonymous said...: perhaps you should read a book on how to understand what people write at various levels - wouldn't that be the more intelligent thing to do - instead of using writing technique as just another way to troll - you could actually get over yourself

evil duke troll ... my blog shadow ... following along; November 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM

"perhaps you should read a book on how to understand what people write at various levels - wouldn't that be the more intelligent thing to do - instead of using writing technique as just another way to troll - you could actually get over yourself

evil duke troll ... my blog shadow ... following along"

Ho Hum. Another evil duke troll uncorroborated allegation. More impotent name calling. Just about what one would expect from the fabricator.; November 7, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Anonymous said...: So now it seems Nichols is gone. We can expect Harr to automatically assume Nichols did something wrong in the autopsy of Daye, though at this point the AG is saying Nichols is out for procedure violations and not quality of work. You can bet Meier will try to gain leverage for delay......which would work to mangum's advantage.; November 7, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Anonymous said...: The case in Cumberland county involved loss of evidence by a member of the staff. Nichols took the fall. We will all hear harr run his mouth now about the Daye autopsy. The point though is that Mangum is responsible.......whether procedural issues were involved, it does not alter her responsibility. Harr will make a big deal out of Nichols being canned.......; November 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

How can the trial continue if the autopsy report and the ME are now officially being investigated by the SBI for errors that were used to charge Ms. Mangum in the first place?

You mentioned earlier about a law that prohibits arrests based upon fraudulent evidence or legal procedures/actions by an official who was discredited, etc. (or something). Is that the same law used to allow a retrial of the fellow with the owl and deceased wife due to errors by the SBI blood lab professional? It seemed it might have been a different law in vague memory of the details of what exactly law you spoke of. You thought that this law should be used to dismiss the case before trial from what I recall. ???

How can they move forward with the trial in light of these new events with the ME lossing his job and the SBI investigation of him?

They cannot say it was not their (the DA's) fault for not having the investigation done by the SBI sooner. When did you send the letters to the DA asking for this investigation to be done? Last year?; November 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM:

The investigation of Dr. Nichols has nothing to do with the autopsy on Reginald Daye. There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts).

Get over it.; November 7, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Anonymous said...: That's not what the local papers are saying.; November 7, 2013 at 7:29 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts)"..........
Only hearsay.; November 7, 2013 at 8:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous 7:29:

Please provide a link to the stories that are reporting that Nichols is being investigated for the Daye autopsy.; November 8, 2013 at 2:20 AM
Anonymous said...: My guess is that Harr will try to confabulate and claim that allegations of mishandling evidence in the other case that led to Nichols being dismissed should mean that duke murdered Daye and that Mangum should go free immediately. Meier knows better. His comment yesterday was that the trial will proceed. My guess is that he will try to impeach Nichols when Nichols testifies, and yesterday Meier was quoted as saying he "saw no reason why Nichols should not testify". There are no allegations of mishandling in the Daye autopsy. Meier is putting up the good fight and the smoke around Nichols will help cloud the jury minds.....and that's to mangum's benefit; November 8, 2013 at 4:57 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous said: There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts)'..........
Only hearsay'.

No, confirmation.

Hearsay is something like Kilgo reporting that some anonymous non existent source wit398 commixisnessed Crystal bein raped at the Lacrosse party.; November 8, 2013 at 5:09 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Check this out:
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/07/3349406/mangum-murder-trial-could-be-delayed.html

Crystal Mangum's attorney says murder trial on schedule

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/07/3349406/mangum-murder-trial-could-be-delayed.html#storylink=cpy; November 8, 2013 at 5:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Correction

KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous said: There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts)'..........
Only hearsay'.

No, confirmation.

Hearsay is something like Kilgo reporting that some anonymous non existent source wit29nessed Crystal bein raped at the Lacrosse party.; November 8, 2013 at 5:15 AM
Anonymous said...: More Correction;

KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous said: There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts)'..........
Only hearsay'.

No, confirmation.

Hearsay is something like Kilgo reporting that some anonymous non existent source witnessed Crystal bein raped at the Lacrosse party.; November 8, 2013 at 5:17 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Regarding hearsay, you adopt the same kind of circular reasoning SIDNEY liks to use(Why do people not elieve in the carpetbagger jihad-they have been subjected to jedi mind tricks-how do you know they have been subjected to jedi mind tricks-they don't believe in the carpetbagger jihad).

You believe Kilgo's anonymous source because Crystal says she was raped. What evidence do you have that Crystal was raped? Kilgo's anonymous source says she was.

It doesn't work that way.; November 8, 2013 at 6:00 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 6:46 PM wrote: "The investigation of Dr. Nichols has nothing to do with the autopsy on Reginald Daye. There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts)."

Now Sid's sabotage comes into clearer focus. Had he not breached attorney client confidentiality, the Defense could have attacked Nichols' credibility with this new and apparently unrelated investigation. However, if they do, the State will rehabilitate him with the defense' own expert that Sid so gave up. That's why you hire a real attorney and not an imposter.

Walt-in-Durham; November 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM
kenhyderal said...: Purely speculative of course but perhaps Dr. Harr's complaint about Nicholl's autopsy of Daye led to an investigation that then uncovered other unrelated problems, serious enough, that in total, caused him to be fired.; November 8, 2013 at 9:15 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Hearsay is something like Kilgo reporting that some anonymous (non existent??) source witnessed Crystal bein raped at the Lacrosse party".... Hearsay of course, at least for now, and not admissible in a court of law but true nonetheless.; November 8, 2013 at 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Purely speculative of course but perhaps Dr. Harr's complaint about Nicholl's autopsy of Daye led to an investigation that then uncovered other unrelated problems, serious enough, that in total, caused him to be fired."

Not purely speculative but purely delusional. No competent medical authority would take someone with SIDNEY's background(rather lack thereof) seriously.; November 8, 2013 at 9:33 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Hearsay of course, at least for now, and not admissible in a court of law but true nonetheless."

If you can not verify the existence of the source of the hearsay, how can you vouch that it is true?

You can't.; November 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Hilarious. Harr has screwed the pooch for Mangum because the prosecutor knows an independent source hired by the defense validated the report. Further , the autopsy will only come into question with regard to the angle of the stab wound etc. because Nichols had aroblem in another case, does not mean welch is out the window. Mangum' act started the chain of events. No,escaping that fact. That's why there is no expert scheduled to testify for the defense. Meier knows his only hope is that busted door, alcohol in the place and her very risky story. She is going to get a pass on murder but , self defense? Doubt it.; November 8, 2013 at 9:42 AM
The Rectumfinder said...: Kilgo's source is correct. Crystal was raped at the party by two non-Lacrosse team members. They were Sidney Harr and Ken Hyderal, in white face, who raped Crystal so that they could frame the Lacrosse team.; November 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

How can the trial continue if the autopsy report and the ME are now officially being investigated by the SBI for errors that were used to charge Ms. Mangum in the first place?

You mentioned earlier about a law that prohibits arrests based upon fraudulent evidence or legal procedures/actions by an official who was discredited, etc. (or something). Is that the same law used to allow a retrial of the fellow with the owl and deceased wife due to errors by the SBI blood lab professional? It seemed it might have been a different law in vague memory of the details of what exactly law you spoke of. You thought that this law should be used to dismiss the case before trial from what I recall. ???

How can they move forward with the trial in light of these new events with the ME lossing his job and the SBI investigation of him?

They cannot say it was not their (the DA's) fault for not having the investigation done by the SBI sooner. When did you send the letters to the DA asking for this investigation to be done? Last year?

I do not see how Mangum's defense attorney can allow the trial to begin without first having an investigation into the autopsy report on Daye. I don't know what Dr. Nichols did in the Boykin case to cause his dismissal, but missing evidence seems relatively trivial especially when compared with fabricating findings on an autopsy report.

I am appalled that the judge would rush forward with Mangum's attorney going right along. Again, I don't believe Mangum's interests are a priority with her attorney. Of the more than a dozen motions he filed, he should have filed some Motions to Dismiss the larceny and murder charge.; November 8, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Anonymous November 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM:

The investigation of Dr. Nichols has nothing to do with the autopsy on Reginald Daye. There is independent confirmation that the autopsy was not fraudulent(Dr. Roberts).

Get over it.

I have not seen anything in writing from Dr. Roberts, and she has not spoken or directly communicated with me. Dr. Roberts may have told Mangum that the Nichols autopsy report was accurate, but if she did it was to dissuade Mangum from asking for a written report.; November 8, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"
I do not see how Mangum's defense attorney can allow the trial to begin without first having an investigation into the autopsy report on Daye."

That is because you are blind.

"I don't know what Dr. Nichols did in the Boykin case to cause his dismissal, but missing evidence seems relatively trivial especially when compared with fabricating findings on an autopsy report."

More uncorroborated allegations.

"I am appalled that the judge would rush forward with Mangum's attorney going right along. Again, I don't believe Mangum's interests are a priority with her attorney. Of the more than a dozen motions he filed, he should have filed some Motions to Dismiss the larceny and murder charge."

It would be more correct to say you are appalling.; November 8, 2013 at 3:03 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I have not seen anything in writing from Dr. Roberts, and she has not spoken or directly communicated with me."

Not at all surprising considering how you tried to force your uncorroborated delusions on her as fact.

"Dr. Roberts may have told Mangum that the Nichols autopsy report was accurate, but if she did it was to dissuade Mangum from asking for a written report."

BULLSHIT!!!; November 8, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

It seems Crystal's trial will commence. Have you nothing to say about it?; November 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "I do not see how Mangum's defense attorney can allow the trial to begin without first having an investigation into the autopsy report on Daye."

The defense problem is one Sid Harr. That fool divulged the defense expert's report that there was nothing wrong with the autopsy. Now, the defense cannot attack the autopsy because their own expert undermines them. And, they cannot keep the expert secret because some fool breached the attorney client confidential relationship and told the state all about it.

"I don't know what Dr. Nichols did in the Boykin case to cause his dismissal, but missing evidence seems relatively trivial especially when compared with fabricating findings on an autopsy report."

Except he didn't falsify an autopsy in the Daye case. And thanks to Sid Harr, we all know it. Crystal has to be really appreciative of your efforts to sabotage her case right now.

"Again, I don't believe Mangum's interests are a priority with her attorney."

The only person who has ever acted against Crystal's interests was Sid Harr.

"Of the more than a dozen motions he filed, he should have filed some Motions to Dismiss the larceny and murder charge."

You have been told why such a motion is without a basis in law or fact. For once, try to learn something.

Walt-in-Durham; November 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Why would the justice system go through with a trial they can determine based upon relevant facts and laws will be dismissed later because of those facts and laws?

Why would the justice system want to continue with the trial before determing the validity of the ME's report and testimony, etc.?; November 8, 2013 at 8:18 PM
Anonymous said...: The leading cause of death for black people - other black people.Ugly,drug abusing hooker Crystal Mangum is proof of that.Why hasn't she already been hanged?; November 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 8, 2013 at 8:18 PM

"Why would the justice system go through with a trial they can determine based upon relevant facts and laws will be dismissed later because of those facts and laws?"

Funny comment. In the phoney Duke rape case, corrupt DA NIFONG had no evidence that a rape had occurred. Yet the Crystal supporters were saying that the case had to go to trial, that the truth or falsehood of Crystal's allegations had to be determined by a Jury. Some were saying the merit of the case had to be determined by a Durham Jury because a Durham Jury was more likely to convict.

"Why would the justice system want to continue with the trial before determing(sic) the validity of the ME's report and testimony, etc.?"

I say again, the validity of the Autopsy findings has already been confirmed by the Defense's expert. Judging frm the News reports, Crystal's lawyer does not plan to question the validity of the autopsy report.

Now SIDNEY will scream he has been coopted by the carpetbagger jihad, a non existent phantom conjured up by SIDNEY's deluded megalomaniacal imagination.; November 9, 2013 at 5:35 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Check this out:

http://wclcriminallawbrief.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-supreme-court-denies-appeal-from.html;

Quote from this URL: “The Supreme Court defines probable cause as '…a reasonable ground for belief of guilt.'

According to SIDNEY, corrupt DA NIFONG was correct to prosecute the Lacrosse players because Crystal had alleged she had been raped and she had identified her assailants, two with 100% certainty and one with 90% certainty.

I repeat, corrupt DA NIFONG had no forensic evidence no physical evidence to corroborate Crystal's allegation, which was an allegation of a gang rape in which she had been beaten, penetrated, ejaculated upon.

You yourself have conceded that the identifications were made in an improperly conducted lineup procedure. I think you said it is possible that 50% of the time the identifications are not reliable.

So try to reconcile this with your assertion that corrupt DA NIFONG established probable cause that Reade Seligman, Colin Finnerty and David Evans raped Crystal.; November 9, 2013 at 5:52 AM
Anonymous said...: The new lawyer should face the most obvious risk to public safety first, (including his own), by the Medical Examiner's firing and possible misrepresentation of facts, and the medical malpractice questions of intent and performance by Duke before proceeding with determining if Ms. Mangum is responsible for the death of Mr. Daye.

It would seem irresponsible and unethical for him not to, because if he did, he could be viewed as conducting the trial with a conflict of interest with Duke and against Ms. Mangum and the interests of safety for the public.

It is a conflict made obvious by the underlying threat of loss of life or limb if he crossed Duke in rightly 'winning' for Ms. Mangum (and the public safety) - if that turns out to be the proven truth in this case and is indeed the threat to all that he is facing himself in any decisions of professional performance in this case.; November 9, 2013 at 7:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

When on November 3 you asked whether further elucidation was required, I replied that I did require further elucidation. You failed to do so in six days.

My reply is repeated below. Please respond at your earliest convenience.

Yes. Further elucidation is required.

Other than a vague reference to Mangum's "role in the Duke Lacrosse case," you have made no attempt to establish a motive for murder.

Please explain in detail what specific individuals have a motive to commit murder, what that motive is, and provide evidence to support that assertion.

Thanks.

November 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM; November 9, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 9, 2013 at 7:26 AM

'The new lawyer should face the most obvious risk to public safety first, (including his own), by the Medical Examiner's firing and possible misrepresentation of facts, and the medical malpractice questions of intent and performance by Duke before proceeding with determining if Ms. Mangum is responsible for the death of Mr. Daye."

You expect the new lawyer to deal with more uncorroborated allegatios.

"It would seem irresponsible and unethical for him not to, because if he did, he could be viewed as conducting the trial with a conflict of interest with Duke and against Ms. Mangum and the interests of safety for the public."

How? A lawyer can not reasonably expected to deal with uncorriborated allegations.

"It is a conflict made obvious by the underlying threat of loss of life or limb if he crossed Duke in rightly 'winning' for Ms. Mangum (and the public safety) - if that turns out to be the proven truth in this case and is indeed the threat to all that he is facing himself in any decisions of professional performance in this case."

Even more uncorroborated allegations.; November 9, 2013 at 8:56 AM
Anonymous said...: kennyhyderal,

Who's

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daddy?; November 9, 2013 at 9:10 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous at 5:52; Thanks for the link to that blog by Ms. Beyda. There is a saying that a DA can convince a Grand Jury "to indict a ham sandwich". At the Grand Jury level the prosecutor is free to present whatever evidence he thinks makes the strongest case and leave out facts that may weaken his case. The prosecutor is allowed present evidence but the defense Lawyers are not. The prosecutor controls the entire process and the defense lawyers are not even present. This is accepted practice. After the indictment is handed down then the Brady rule comes into affect. A reply by Anonymous 11/9/13 7:52 is also revealing; pointing out the "fatal" flaws in The North Carolina Justice System; November 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM
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Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"At the Grand Jury level the prosecutor is free to present whatever evidence he thinks makes the strongest case and leave out facts that may weaken his case."

You are dodging the question. What evidence did DA NIFONG have to present to establish probable cause? The answer is NONE!

You seem o think a prosecutor is ntitled to do whatever is necessary to procure an indictment. That is contrary to the principle that the Prosecutor's first responsibility is to find the truth. A prosecutor is also legally and ethically NOT to prosecute when he does not have a case.

Explain how Crystal's ubcorroborated allegations warranted indicting three innocent men. You can't. All you can do is dance around the truths you do not want to confront.; November 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

It seems Crystal's trial will commence. Have you nothing to say about it?

I don't know what the big rush is. It only makes sense to wait and see what comes of the investigation into the autopsy report and Daye's death before proceeding. For instance, it's more likely than not that the investigation will conclude that the autopsy report is false and fraudulent. If that is the case, the judge should toss out the charges against Mangum immediately.

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to proceed to trial now, especially when Mangum is not currently incarcerated.; November 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "I do not see how Mangum's defense attorney can allow the trial to begin without first having an investigation into the autopsy report on Daye."

The defense problem is one Sid Harr. That fool divulged the defense expert's report that there was nothing wrong with the autopsy. Now, the defense cannot attack the autopsy because their own expert undermines them. And, they cannot keep the expert secret because some fool breached the attorney client confidential relationship and told the state all about it.

"I don't know what Dr. Nichols did in the Boykin case to cause his dismissal, but missing evidence seems relatively trivial especially when compared with fabricating findings on an autopsy report."

Except he didn't falsify an autopsy in the Daye case. And thanks to Sid Harr, we all know it. Crystal has to be really appreciative of your efforts to sabotage her case right now.

"Again, I don't believe Mangum's interests are a priority with her attorney."

The only person who has ever acted against Crystal's interests was Sid Harr.

"Of the more than a dozen motions he filed, he should have filed some Motions to Dismiss the larceny and murder charge."

You have been told why such a motion is without a basis in law or fact. For once, try to learn something.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, I can appreciate you desperately grasping at the last straws of hope, but it's about time you threw in the towel and faced reality. The autopsy report on Daye is false and fraudulent... Period. Something that Dr. Roberts knows, as well.

With that knowledge, any judge with a scintilla of integrity would immediately dismiss all charges against Mangum.; November 9, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Why would the justice system go through with a trial they can determine based upon relevant facts and laws will be dismissed later because of those facts and laws?

Why would the justice system want to continue with the trial before determing the validity of the ME's report and testimony, etc.?

I wholeheartedly am in total agreement with what you say. It only makes sense to see what the investigation finds regarding the autopsy report and Daye's death before even considering to proceed.

Always good to hear from other enlightened commenters.; November 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
The new lawyer should face the most obvious risk to public safety first, (including his own), by the Medical Examiner's firing and possible misrepresentation of facts, and the medical malpractice questions of intent and performance by Duke before proceeding with determining if Ms. Mangum is responsible for the death of Mr. Daye.

It would seem irresponsible and unethical for him not to, because if he did, he could be viewed as conducting the trial with a conflict of interest with Duke and against Ms. Mangum and the interests of safety for the public.

It is a conflict made obvious by the underlying threat of loss of life or limb if he crossed Duke in rightly 'winning' for Ms. Mangum (and the public safety) - if that turns out to be the proven truth in this case and is indeed the threat to all that he is facing himself in any decisions of professional performance in this case.

Very interesting comments and true to the mark. Attorney Meier should definitely seek to have the trial delayed until the investigation of Nichols is completed.; November 9, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney,

When on November 3 you asked whether further elucidation was required, I replied that I did require further elucidation. You failed to do so in six days.

My reply is repeated below. Please respond at your earliest convenience.

Yes. Further elucidation is required.

Other than a vague reference to Mangum's "role in the Duke Lacrosse case," you have made no attempt to establish a motive for murder.

Please explain in detail what specific individuals have a motive to commit murder, what that motive is, and provide evidence to support that assertion.

Thanks.

The motive for the hospital homicide of Daye while he was still a patient in the hospital was so that his death could be linked to the stab injury. A sentence for a first degree murder sentence is much lengthier than one for felony assault with intent to kill. The Carpetbagger Jihadists (who publicly claimed jihad against Nifong and all those considered to be on the prosecution side) and the Powers-That-Be made it be known that they were after blood. That is evident by the persecution of Nifong. I repeat, the motive for killing Daye was to saddle Mangum with a more serious charge that would sentence her to a lengthier prison sentence.

I do not possess video or e-mails or other irrefutable evidence... it is based upon statements made by Rae Evans during a television interview, common sense, and Sherlockian deduction.; November 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Anonymous said...
'SIDNEY HARR:

It seems Crystal's trial will commence. Have you nothing to say about it?'

I don't know what the big rush is. It only makes sense to wait and see what comes of the investigation into the autopsy report and Daye's death before proceeding. For instance, it's more likely than not that the investigation will conclude that the autopsy report is false and fraudulent. If that is the case, the judge should toss out the charges against Mangum immediately.

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to proceed to trial now, especially when Mangum is not currently incarcerated."

As I suspected you have nothing to say, except the same old fabrications of your deluded megalomaniacal imagination.; November 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, I can appreciate you desperately grasping at the last straws of hope, but it's about time you threw in the towel and faced reality. The autopsy report on Daye is false and fraudulent... Period. Something that Dr. Roberts knows, as well."

More deluded ravings from your deluded megalomaniaal imagination.

You have never established as fact that the autopsy report as fraudulent. You have never established that you are competent enough to call the autopsy as fraudulent. Dr. Roberts did not call the autopsy report fraudulent. Like Adolf Hitler you think you can proclaim something as true and it becomes true.

"With that knowledge, any judge with a scintilla of integrity would immediately dismiss all charges against Mangum."

Your idea of integrity is a corrupt DA prosecuting innocent men for a crime which never happened.; November 9, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, I can appreciate you desperately grasping at the last straws of hope, but it's about time you threw in the towel and faced reality. The autopsy report on Daye is false and fraudulent... Period. Something that Dr. Roberts knows, as well."

More deluded ravings from your deluded megalomaniaal imagination.

You have never established as fact that the autopsy report as fraudulent. You have never established that you are competent enough to call the autopsy as fraudulent. Dr. Roberts did not call the autopsy report fraudulent. Like Adolf Hitler you think you can proclaim something as true and it becomes true.

"With that knowledge, any judge with a scintilla of integrity would immediately dismiss all charges against Mangum."

Your idea of integrity is a corrupt DA prosecuting innocent men for a crime which never happened.; November 9, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I wholeheartedly am in total agreement with what you say. It only makes sense to see what the investigation finds regarding the autopsy report and Daye's death before even considering to proceed.

Always good to hear from other enlightened commenters."

SIDNEY again shows how little he knows about real integrity by agreeing with the fabricator.; November 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Very interesting comments and true to the mark. Attorney Meier should definitely seek to have the trial delayed until the investigation of Nichols is completed."

SIDNEY again agrees with the fabricator, again showing he has zero grasp of what integrity is.

Also, his "legal" career has consisted of filing and losing frivolous non meritorious lawsuits.

Still his legal career was a lot more substantive than his joke of a medical career.; November 9, 2013 at 2:00 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous @ 11:26 said: "Explain how Crystal's ubcorroborated allegations warranted indicting three innocent men. You can't. All you can do is dance around the truths you do not want to confront""......1. Crystal's allegation 2. The teams reputation for bad behaviour 3. The findings at Duke Hospital 4.The identifications from the photo line-up. These are enough for a Grand Jury to indict. They, of course, are not enough to convict. Not without corroboration of the eye-witnesses who DA Nifong rightly threatened to prosecute.; November 9, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"The motive for the hospital homicide of Daye while he was still a patient in the hospital was so that his death could be linked to the stab injury. A sentence for a first degree murder sentence is much lengthier than one for felony assault with intent to kill."

BULLSHIT!!!

"The Carpetbagger Jihadists (who publicly claimed jihad against Nifong and all those considered to be on the prosecution side) and the Powers-That-Be made it be known that they were after blood."

More BULLSHIT!!! SIDNEY has never established the existence of the carpetbagger jihad. It is nothing more than a fabrication of his deluded megalomaniacal imagination.

"That is evident by the persecution of Nifong. I repeat, the motive for killing Daye was to saddle Mangum with a more serious charge that would sentence her to a lengthier prison sentence."

Except there was no persecution of corrupt DA NIFONG. DA NIFONG was PROSECUTED because he attempted to prosecute three innocent men for a crime which never happened. In the course of that obvious wrongful prosecution, he made public statements which were guilt presuming and which attempted to undermine The Constitutional rights of his suspects, he attempted to suborn perjured incriminating testimony from people he named as witnesses, he attempted to intimidate a witness who backed up the alibi of one of his suspects, via the improper lineup procedure he attempted to manufacture evidence against his suspects, and HE CONCEALED EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE FROM THE SUSPECTS AND LIED TO THE COURT ABOUT IT.

I say again, this corrupt DA is to SIDNEY a paragon of integrity.

"I do not possess video or e-mails or other irrefutable evidence... it is based upon statements made by Rae Evans during a television interview,..."

Rae Evans made her statement AFTER corrupt DA NIFONG hung himself with his own corrupt and unethical behavior.

"...common sense, and Sherlockian deduction."

Blind deluded megalomania is not common sense. The only deduction IDNEY has ever accomplished in his life is the loss of whatever scintilla of integrity he might have possessed.; November 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous @ 11:26 said: 'Explain how Crystal's ubcorroborated allegations warranted indicting three innocent men. You can't. All you can do is dance around the truths you do not want to confront"......

"1. Crystal's allegation"

Crystal's allegations were 1)yes I was raped, 20 no I wasn't, then yes I was, no I wasn't before she settled on Yes I was. She could not describe any member of the Lacrosse team as an assailant. She told multiple, different, mutually contradicting versions of her story. Her ALLEGATIONS were not credible.

"2. The teams reputation for bad behaviour"

The team's reputatiom for bad behavior was something manufactured by the gang of 88. Even if it weren't, without a credible allegation it was not probable cause to believe they had committed rape.

3."The findings at Duke Hospital"

There were no findings from Duke Hospital except diffuse vaginal edema, which can be caused by, ammong other things, sexual arousal, and the observation of a whitish fluid in her genital tract which was never shown to be semen. Whether you accept it or not, the negative test of the rape kit for acid phosphatase established it was not semen.

"4.The identifications from the photo line-up."

The photo lineup, as you have admitted, was conducted improperly. The identifications were not reliable. she identified with 100% certainty as her assailants were two men who could prove with 100% certainty that they were not present at the time or place where and when the alleged crime took place. The third "assailant" was a clean shaven man who never had a mustache whom she claimed had a mustache when he raped her.

"These are enough for a Grand Jury to indict."

What they show is that corrupt DA NIFONG sought indictments against men who were innocent.

"They, of course, are not enough to convict. Not without corroboration of the eye-witnesses who DA Nifong rightly threatened to prosecute."

Except there was no crime so there could have been no witnesses. Threatening to prosecute them would have yielded only coerced testimony which would not have been considered credible in court.

Congratulations, KENHYDERAL. I said you could not show that DA NIFONG could establish probable cause. You have more than adequately lived down to my expectations.; November 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Reade Seligman had an air tight alibi. His attorneys tried to show corrupt DA NIFONG the evidence. Corrupt DA NIFONG refused to biew it, probably because he would have been ethically required to dismiss charges against someone with an air tight alibi. I remind you that a Prosecutor is ethically obligated NOT to prosecute someone whom he knows he can not convict.

MoezElmostafa provided evidence which supported Reade Seligman's alibi.DA NIFONG had him arrested on an outstanding warrant, The officers asked him if he wanted to change his statement on Reade Seligman. He refused. He was prosecuted,

The charge was that he was an accessory to shoplifting. The shop lifter was brought in and told to give testimony that Moez Elmostafa was her accomplice. She refused.

That all is evidence that corrupt DA NIFONG was not interested in establishing probable cause. He was interested only in prosecuting members of the Lacrosse team, without regard to actual guilt or innocence.

All this became known over the course of time. Yet you continue to insist that corrupt DA NIFONG established probable cause.

What is your motivation for this? That you have nothung upon which to base your resumption of guilt, do not try to claim it is a desire to see justice done.; November 9, 2013 at 2:59 PM
kenhyderal said...: It is, indeed, a desire to see justice done for Crystal. The truth, in the end, does have a way of coming out. At present the best chance for that lies in the one (apparently only one) innocent Player who's conscience is troubled by the injustice perpetrated, there, against her and, as well, the sociopathic lack of conscience of those who violated her.; November 9, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"It is, indeed, a desire to see justice done for Crystal. The truth, in the end, does have a way of coming out. At present the best chance for that lies in the one (apparently only one) innocent Player who's conscience is troubled by the injustice perpetrated, there, against her and, as well, the sociopathic lack of conscience of those who violated her."

So how do you explain that there was no evidence, absolutely no evidence that Crystal was raped, ergo no Lacrosse player who witnessed a rape, no perpetrators who violated her. Your desire for justice is actually a desire to have innocent men punished for a crime which never happened.

What do you have against innocent men? Better yet, what do you have for Crystal whose sordid past was exposed by the false rape allegations she made against innocent men. Whatever it is, there is no desire for justice there.; November 9, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

You say that truth comes out in the end. Well it has been more than 7 years, actually almost 8 years since Crystal made her allegations and no one has come forth to corroborate her allegations.

I admit there have been cold cases which have been solved more than 20 years after. The difference between those cases and the Duke Lacrosse case is that there was evidence of a crime.

The concept is Corpus delicti. It means that before anyone can be proven guilty of a crime it must be proven that a crime was committed. There is NO evidence, I say again, NO evidence that Crystal was raped.

Even if someone does come forth to say she was raped almost 8 years after the allegations were made, there is still NO evidence a crime was committed, NO corroborating evidence that Crystal was raped.

In advocating that someone must be convicted of raping Crystal under those circumstances is not a fight for justice.; November 9, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Right; November 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...: on; November 9, 2013 at 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...: kennhyderal; November 9, 2013 at 6:12 PM
Break the Conspiracy said...: Now that Sidney has charged that the Carpetbagger Jihad is responsible for Reginald Daye’s murder, I thought it would be useful to repeat Sidney’s compelling proof of its nefarious existence.

The Carpetbagger Jihad is the widespread conspiracy directed by Rae Evans. This conspiracy includes the former defendants, their parents, friends and teammates, Durham, Duke, North Carolina, the Bar, prosecutors, police, the fire department, the medical examiner, the local, national and international media, civil rights organizations, clergy, politicians, most defense attorneys, her medical expert, most other doctors, the California franchise tax board, the Raleigh Housing Authority and too many others to name.

I address this question due to its importance (the alleged murder of Daye by unknown persons while being treated at Duke).

Sidney has repeatedly and patiently explained how he discovered this conspiracy. His evidence is compelling: (1) In January 2007, on 60 Minutes, Rae Evans threatened Nifong: “you've picked on the wrong families… you will pay every day for the rest of your life” and (2) CBS failed to inform its viewers that Evans had worked at CBS for more than 10 years. The naysayers ignore this proof.

Cynics unfairly accuse Sidney of exaggerating the importance of Evans’ employment. They note that Evans worked at CBS from 1971 to 1981, ending 25 years before her appearance on 60 Minutes. This apparently was Evans’ first job after graduating from college. Her final position was a mid-level public affairs position—scarcely the senior executive Sidney implies.

This criticism is unreasonable. 10 years is a long time. Any contemporaries remaining at CBS have senior positions. Evans founded a successful public relations firm, demonstrating extraordinary success.

The failure of CBS to identify that employment is a violation of journalistic ethics. The network of Dan Rather and Mary Mapes could not commit such a serious error.

Finally, the willingness of CBS to permit Evans to threaten Nifong provides further evidence of a conspiracy. 60 Minutes is not known for controversial interviews.

Cynics try to justify Evans’ audacious behavior: they claim she was outraged because she believed Nifong had wrongly prosecuted her son with no credible evidence. Sidney patiently explains that outrage is unjustified because Nifong did not have an opportunity to present his case in court. Although Evans may have seen all the evidence, she did not know how Nifong would use it.

Cynics misrepresent Evans’ behavior by trying to liken it to Sidney’s criticism of Duke for its shameful mistreatment of him: Duke “will be held accountable.” They note that Sidney spent no time in jail and that Duke did not present its case in court. The cynics further note that Sidney worked as an emergency room physician and would know how to improperly intubate a patient. All of the evidence Sidney uses to prove the existence of a widespread conspiracy that murdered an innocent man (i.e., a verbal threat and a job held long ago) is equally true for him. Based on Harr’s level of proof, they claim Sidney B. Harr is a murderer.

This feeble attempt fools no one. Sidney was justifiably embarrassed when Duke escorted him from campus and threatened arrest. Dozens witnessed the unfair accusation that Harr violated Duke’s solicitation policy. Dave Evans suffered no such indignity. Although indicted and arrested, he spent no time in jail. The accusations that Evans was a brutal and racist gang rapist published in thousands of stories worldwide and read by tens of millions of readers pale in comparison to Sidney’s unjust notoriety in a Duke auditorium as an alleged violator of an obscure policy.

One cannot avoid the conclusion that the 60 Minutes interview exposed a massive conspiracy. The naysayers simply cannot accept reality.; November 10, 2013 at 9:22 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Hey, Break.

In response to your previous comment let me add a little clarification. The Carpetbagger Jihadists are more restricted and basically include the Duke Lacrosse defendants and their families who hail from the north (therefore... Carpetbaggers). The mainstream media local and nationally are anti-NIfong conspirators, though they may not technically be Carpetbagger Jihadists.

Someone from the California Franchise Tax board may have been involved in the conspiracy against me, but I don't see how the Raleigh Housing authority would be part of the conspiracy.

Durham police and prosecutors may be conspirators, but civil rights organizations, politicians, and clergy are more aptly categorized as enablers because they remain quiet as dormice and idle with knowledge of gross wrongdoing.

I believe the medical examiner was coerced into being a co-conspirator along with others.

As far as Rae Evans' position at CBS, I have no personal knowledge of what it was. I merely went by what was on her bio on the web page of her business page. (Maybe she exaggerated?)

Also, I believe Rae Evans' outrage at Nifong was unjustified because he was merely doing his job as a district attorney. She should have been upset with her son for his involvement in the notorious beer-guzzling/stripper-ogling parties the Duke lacrosse team hosted.

Other than the above minor corrections, the restatement of the situation is accurate.

Thanks for your contribution.; November 10, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney: the restatement of the situation is accurate.

Sidney B. Harr is a murderer.; November 10, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Anonymous said...: The Raleigh Housing Authority has unfairly categorized your website at a hate site. There is no justification for this. Most businesses' filters do not block the site.

The only explanation is that they are part of or coerced by the conspiracy. A small part, but a decision that makes it more difficult to get your word out.; November 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM

"The Raleigh Housing Authority has unfairly categorized your website at a hate site. There is no justification for this. Most businesses' filters do not block the site.

The only explanation is that they are part of or coerced by the conspiracy. A small part, but a decision that makes it more difficult to get your word out."

More ignorance, more uncorroborated allegations from the fabricator.; November 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Hey, Break.

In response to your previous comment let me add a little clarification. The Carpetbagger Jihadists are more restricted and basically include the Duke Lacrosse defendants and their families who hail from the north (therefore... Carpetbaggers)."

Another lie for which SIDNEY takes credit as there is no carpetbagger jihad.

"The mainstream media local and nationally are anti-NIfong conspirators,"

Another lie for which SIDNEY gets credit. If this were true, the mainstream media would not have given corrupt DA NIFONG all the air time, all the band width for his 50+ guilt presuming statements to said mainstrem media.

"though they may not technically be Carpetbagger Jihadists."

No one is a carpetbagger jihadist. The carpetbagger jihad dos not exist.

"Someone from the California Franchise Tax board may have been involved in the conspiracy against me, but I don't see how the Raleigh Housing authority would be part of the conspiracy."

What conspiracy? You have provided no factual evidence of a conspiracy.

"Durham police and prosecutors may be conspirators, but civil rights organizations, politicians, and clergy are more aptly categorized as enablers because they remain quiet as dormice and idle with knowledge of gross wrongdoing."

They are quiet because there is no evidence of any of the wrongdoing SIDNEY imagines as having happened.

"I believe the medical examiner was coerced into being a co-conspirator along with others."

By this you admit you are delusional.

"As far as Rae Evans' position at CBS, I have no personal knowledge of what it was. I merely went by what was on her bio on the web page of her business page. (Maybe she exaggerated?)"

You quoted Rae Stevens as saying that corrupt DA NIFONG would pay for what he did every day for the rest of his life. You blamed Rae Evans for everything that happened to DA NIFONG including the involvement of the NC State Bar and the Attorney General. Rae Evans made her statement to 60 Minutes AFTER the State Bar and the AG got involved. The AG got involved because corrupt DA NIFONG asked him to.

"Also, I believe Rae Evans' outrage at Nifong was unjustified because he was merely doing his job as a district attorney."

SIDNEY defines making public guilt presuming statements, making statements prejudicial to the rights of the suspects, engaging in witness intimidation, prosecuting when he had no evidence a crime had happened, fabricating a justification for seeking indictments by conducting an improper lineup which did not yield any reliable id's, withholding exculpatory evidence, lying to the court as corrupt DA NIFONG "merely doing his job as a district attorney.

"She should have been upset with her son for his involvement in the notorious beer-guzzling/stripper-ogling parties the Duke lacrosse team hosted."

Since the Lacrosse team DID NOT have a history of hosting "notorious beer-guzzling/stripper-ogling parties", there was nothing for Mrs.Evans to be upset with. She had every right to be angry at a corrupt DA who had wrongfully prosecutred her innocent son.

"Other than the above minor corrections, the restatement of the situation is accurate."

No it isn't. It is a restatement of SIDNEY's uncorroborated allegations.; November 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Let me restate a concept of which you are, probably intentionally, ignorant.

Corpus Delicti is the principle that before a prosecutor can charge anyone with a crime, he has to prove a crime had happened in the first place.

Your claim is that corrupt DA NIFONG was justified in prosecuting because Crystal had alleged a rape and she had identified three men as hr assailants. Crystal's allegations were not credible. Her identifications, even with corrupt DA NIFONG rigging the lineup were not reliable.

You say she identified two men with 100% certainty and a third with 90% certainty. She also identified with 100% certainty Brad Ross as having b een at the party. Brad Ross was not at the party.

To anyone except a corrupt DA who was determined to prosecute members of the Lacrosse team regardless of guilt or innocence, that raised doubt, serious doubt that her 100% and 90% certainty did not up to reliability.

DA NIFONG never established neither by Crystal's allegations nor by her identifications that a crime had committed.

That is not obvious to you because your are a deluded, guilt presuming megalomaniac who, like Adolf Hitler, believes his proclamations are the truth.; November 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Anonymous said...: All of the lacrosse players at the party found Crystal to be repulsive and none of them wanted to have sex with her.They were no different than any other white man.; November 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Strunk & White, The Elements of Style, Fourth Edition is available on Amazon for under $5. Please, for the love of God and clear writing........buy the book, READ it and USE it!; November 11, 2013 at 5:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Break, of course you are correct. However, you left out major players in the jihad who deserve specific mention. Let's begin with Harvard. KC Johnson was honored by Harvard, and we all know Johnson is actually Rae Evans' first husband. He is the father of Evans' love child...who, in a desperate attempt to gain notoriety for himself, attended the LAX party and had carnal knowledge of single-hard-working-mother-of-three, Mangum.
Further, you left out Skull & Bones, the Trilateral Commission, and Lil Wayne. S&K, along with the TC, hatched a plot to launch chem trails over Mangum's apartment, showering the air around her with secret sex pills. She was poisoned! Thus, she had no control over her urges. In her youth Mangum had trained to become a gymnast. Sadly, the only event for which she qualified was pole vaulting.
Lil Wayne was having an affair with Nifong but got caught by no-conscious Cline in the Do-Tell Motel, wearing Nifong's bathrobe and singing, "You Cheated, You Lied, You said that you loved me". Hence, Lil Wayne turned on Nifong and because a snitch for the News and Observer.
See....there is just so much yet to be uncovered in the Chronicles of AssHat Harr!; November 11, 2013 at 5:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Excellent story on Tailgating at Duke, the "oral history"...over at Liestoppers. Links to what transpired in 2006 and further demonstrates the absolutely lousy behavior of Brodhead and Aleva. A good read.......; November 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM
A Lawyer said...: Someone from the California Franchise Tax board may have been involved in the conspiracy against me

May have been involved? How?

Do you even know what the California Franchise Tax Board is?

Break the Conspiracy is just funnin' with you and, as usual, you don't get the joke.; November 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Love Break's sarcasm………..hilarious!!!!; November 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM
kenhyderal said...: Sarcasm is mean spirited and it wont win an argument; November 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Sarcasm is mean spirited and it wont win an argument".

Neither will the stupidity and bias you post.; November 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Perhaps if you, Sidney and the other trolls and Nifong apologists did not make such moronic posts, others would not resort to sarcasm.

I believe that many posters are interested in honest debate. However, you, Sidney are others have shown that you have no interest.; November 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Walt said...: Break, this conspiracy is bigger than you think, much bigger. First, you're right about the RHA being in on it. But, there's more. The Wake County Public Library System is in too. They have this arbitrary and capricious rule limiting Sid to just one hour of computer time per day. That limits his ability to get the message out!

Worse, the Wake County Library has to have the policy because all the homeless guys in Moore Square come into the library to play free cell and internet poker on the library public computers. Thus taking up the computers and time Sid needs to get his message out. The homeless guys are in on it too, don't you know!

But, that just doesn't scratch the surface of this conspiracy, I'm sure you know that the profane prince of West Durham, none other than Mike (who's name must not be mentioned in polite company) Krezyewski once coached basketball at Army with none other than the infamous Bobby Knight. Now, Knight who also coached at Indiana and Texas Tech is known to have shot a hunting partner, just like Dick Cheney! That brings K, Knight and Cheney into the conspiracy. How high up could this conspiracy go?

Walt-in-Durham; November 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM
kenhyderal said...: Walt, give it up, you're no Break; November 11, 2013 at 9:46 PM
Anonymous said...: The problem with "honest debate" is that harr does not debate ……. he just makes his silly claims and thinks that saying something over and over…..makes it true. the world is flat, the world is flat, the world is flat….duke murdered daye……that is not honest debate. that's just boring bullshit posted by an imposter who claims he is a physician, able to offer an expert opinion.; November 12, 2013 at 3:13 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYGERAL"

"Walt, give it up, you're no Break"

And you are a great thinker-NOT!

You want innocent men convicted of rape even though you can not prove a crime even happened.; November 12, 2013 at 3:37 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
The Raleigh Housing Authority has unfairly categorized your website at a hate site. There is no justification for this. Most businesses' filters do not block the site.

The only explanation is that they are part of or coerced by the conspiracy. A small part, but a decision that makes it more difficult to get your word out.

It was my understanding, and I may be wrong, that blogspot categorized my site as one that prevents the Raleigh Housing Authority from accessing. It is true that the public library, which tends to be restrictive, does allow it, so I really don't know what the deal is. Yeah, it is an inconvenience not being able to use the computer at the apartment, but it is tolerable.

Thanks for clarifying the association with RHA.; November 12, 2013 at 7:18 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: A Lawyer said...
Someone from the California Franchise Tax board may have been involved in the conspiracy against me

May have been involved? How?

Do you even know what the California Franchise Tax Board is?

Break the Conspiracy is just funnin' with you and, as usual, you don't get the joke.

Break is well informed and enlightened... his knowledge about the facts even amazes me. If you want to find out the California Franchise Tax Board, I would suggest you view some of the early... early blogs that discuss it.; November 12, 2013 at 7:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Break, this conspiracy is bigger than you think, much bigger. First, you're right about the RHA being in on it. But, there's more. The Wake County Public Library System is in too. They have this arbitrary and capricious rule limiting Sid to just one hour of computer time per day. That limits his ability to get the message out!

Worse, the Wake County Library has to have the policy because all the homeless guys in Moore Square come into the library to play free cell and internet poker on the library public computers. Thus taking up the computers and time Sid needs to get his message out. The homeless guys are in on it too, don't you know!

But, that just doesn't scratch the surface of this conspiracy, I'm sure you know that the profane prince of West Durham, none other than Mike (who's name must not be mentioned in polite company) Krezyewski once coached basketball at Army with none other than the infamous Bobby Knight. Now, Knight who also coached at Indiana and Texas Tech is known to have shot a hunting partner, just like Dick Cheney! That brings K, Knight and Cheney into the conspiracy. How high up could this conspiracy go?

Walt-in-Durham

Hey, Walt. Nice try at a little humor.; November 12, 2013 at 7:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Well, the jury selection process starts today.....for the trial that was not supposed to ever happen....according to Harr. Actually harr has been running his mouth for several years about how charges would be dropped and mangum would go free. I guess somebody didn't read the memo about letting her go free. Darn.
I am, so far, impressed that Meier is doing his best and trying to put up a defense. Agree with Walt...this is going to be manslaughter...unless, of course, somebody has evidence none of us know about; November 12, 2013 at 7:25 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"It was my understanding,"

You have never shown understanding of anything.

"and I may be wrong,"

In most cases there is no "may be" about it. You ARE wrong.

"that blogspot categorized my site as one that prevents the Raleigh Housing Authority from accessing."

In this case, the RHA is correct.

"It is true that the public library, which tends to be restrictive, does allow it, so I really don't know what the deal is. Yeah, it is an inconvenience not being able to use the computer at the apartment, but it is tolerable."

I doubt that the public library would consider you tolerable if it realized what you use its computers for.

"Thanks for clarifying the association with RHA."

No thanks to you for obfuscating everything.; November 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt gets my vote for best informed, effective communication of the LAW, hands down. Lance gets my vote for wit, intelligence, focus on facts and clear posts. A Lawyer gets my vote for giving a solid legal-based perspective, again based on facts. Dr. Anon, solid, qualified, and exceptionally skilled at shooting through the bullshit.
Troll, the endlessly idiotic duke hating dribbler, and sidney....get my vote for "most likely to implode from their own deadly combination of self-produced hot air, fueled by sewer level bilge"; November 12, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Oh, and Break.........winner by a landslide....the funniest posts of all!!!!
I would love to know who Break is.....I have my guesses, but would love to know. Anyway, Break, thank you for your hilarious contributions.; November 12, 2013 at 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Break is well informed and enlightened... his knowledge about the facts even amazes me."

You amaze me. Break is very successfully making a fool out of you(not that endeavor requires a whole lot of effort) and you can't recognize it.

"If you want to find out the California Franchise Tax Board, I would suggest you view some of the early... early blogs that discuss it."

You blogged that you were investigated for tax fraud and you attributed that to the non existent conspiracy against you.

That would indicate the charges had merit and you were fortunate to avoid consequences.; November 12, 2013 at 9:28 AM
Anonymous said...: It would seem to me that sidney would be sitting in the court, cheering on Mangum.....considering his assertion that he, and only he, is the bearer of truth, light and justice for the poor victim of he evil white oppressors who have systematically ruined her life. Golly, pal, now's your chance to back her up and give her that big old high five. And, of course, any time you think the judge isn't handling his business, you could interrupt and tell the whole courtroom exactly how the whole trial is a sham and that YOU are walking outta there with Sister!!!; November 12, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Hey, Walt. Nice try at a little humor."

Instead of berating WAlt, why don't you try something you never have, telling the ruth.; November 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Ins't it amazing that sidney harr has no problem using the word "murder" in the title of his last ridiculous blub.....WHO exactly is a murderer at Duke, harr? The RT, the doctor(s), some weird nurse? WHO are you calling a killer? WHO deliberately carried an act to kill Daye?
Come on, asshat, show us all that you actually have a pair and name the killer you are accusing?; November 12, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Anonymous said...: ....."“What I’ve reviewed and the information that I have is (that) the subject matter of that investigation is not related in any way to the subject matter of this case,” Ridgeway said....
This quote, today, from the courtroom in response to a motion from Meier to continue the trial, based on investigation of Nichols. The motion to continue was denied.
Meier may try to impeach Nichols' credibility as an expert witness with the fact of Nichols recent dismissal if/as/when Nichols is called to testify.
Also today, the prosecutor has 35 names on the witness list from the DPD. doesn't mean all will be called, but still......
Meier wanted the records of mangum's mental health eval .....interesting. Recall that Cooper elected not to go after Mangum, as he could have, on the basis of her apparent mental health/substance abuse issues.; November 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Sounds like Meier is going to try to mount the domestic batterer offs the beater defense.; November 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Anonymous said...: So Meier may be thinking he can paint her as mentally unstable.....now....and way back then in 2006....but HOW can he do this without opening the LAX door discussion? If she testifies?; November 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 12:51 PM wrote: "Sounds like Meier is going to try to mount the domestic batterer offs the beater defense."

Two wrongs make a right, that works in Sid's world.

Anonymous at 1:32 PM wrote: "So Meier may be thinking he can paint her as mentally unstable.....now....and way back then in 2006....but HOW can he do this without opening the LAX door discussion? If she testifies?"

The defense went down the mental capacity road early in this case. It was a dead end then. However, Crystal was examined by the State's psychologist. I have the suspicion that Crystal's early version of the killing is in the psych eval and it works relatively well for the defense. Meier may be planning on using that eval to get Crystal's story in without her actually having to testify. For, if she testifies, the lacrosse hoax could come in. But, if Meier can get in a story that raises self defense without actually calling Crystal, he avoids two problems. (1) He avoids the lacrosse hoax coming up on cross or to impeach her credibility and (2) he avoids Crystal's well known inability to tell the same story twice.

Looks like all those lawyers before Meier weren't the putzes Sid claims they were.

Walt-in-Durham; November 12, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Seven jurors picked yesterday.

Note to Meier: Please tell Mangum it's really not cool to chew gum in court. Sister would make a little better impression on the jury if she spits out the gum, sits up straight and at least pretends she is a tiny little bit interested in the proceedings. Looking bored to death, chewing, and almost nodding off……not a good start.; November 13, 2013 at 3:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Shouldn't the new lawyer file a motion to ask for the SBI to investigate the fired medical examiner's autopsy report for this case since the integrity of the autopsy reports are in dispute in relation to the medical reports and the police reports?

Is he waiting until the reports enter into the trial to question the medical examiner to have to ask the SBI to investigate in the middle of the trial instead?

That is a lot of needless sequestering time for the jury probably - if the SBI will investigate the reports eventually and the information is brought into the trial as it should be since it is part of it.

The jury will have to NOT read, watch, or talk about 'the news' for quite a while since it is in full anti-mangum swing already.

I call BS on the denial of the motion to delay and vote yeah to stopping the trial before jury selection and investigating the ME and his autopsy report before interrupting the lives of the jury for an extended trial (if it is to be a fair trial for Ms. Mangum and the safety of the public by the SBI being asked to investigate the ME in this case).; November 13, 2013 at 6:18 AM
Anonymous said...: I call BS on everything you've ever posted.; November 13, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Well, the jury selection process starts today.....for the trial that was not supposed to ever happen....according to Harr. Actually harr has been running his mouth for several years about how charges would be dropped and mangum would go free. I guess somebody didn't read the memo about letting her go free. Darn.
I am, so far, impressed that Meier is doing his best and trying to put up a defense. Agree with Walt...this is going to be manslaughter...unless, of course, somebody has evidence none of us know about

The trial should not be taking place, and would not be if Mangum had worked with me. Instead she has kept written documents from Dr. Roberts from me... to her detriment. Had she worked with me instead of putting her future in the hands of those who have little regard for her, the charges against her would have been dismissed.

My predictions that the trial would not take place were based on the assumption that Mangum would work with me... which has not been the case.; November 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Seven jurors picked yesterday.

Note to Meier: Please tell Mangum it's really not cool to chew gum in court. Sister would make a little better impression on the jury if she spits out the gum, sits up straight and at least pretends she is a tiny little bit interested in the proceedings. Looking bored to death, chewing, and almost nodding off……not a good start.

I wholeheartedly agree. It is very disturbing and not showing class. Judge Judy does not allow gum chewing in her court.; November 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sounds like Meier is going to try to mount the domestic batterer offs the beater defense.

That's ridiculous. She didn't off the batterer. She stabbed him in self defense... a nonfatal wound. If anyone offed the batterer it was staff at Duke University Hospital.; November 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Ins't it amazing that sidney harr has no problem using the word "murder" in the title of his last ridiculous blub.....WHO exactly is a murderer at Duke, harr? The RT, the doctor(s), some weird nurse? WHO are you calling a killer? WHO deliberately carried an act to kill Daye?
Come on, asshat, show us all that you actually have a pair and name the killer you are accusing?

I do not have the investigatory powers and documents to determine if, or if so, who was responsible for a possible hospital homicide. All I have to go by is a few documents from prosecution discovery. To my knowledge, Mangum's defense has never conducted any investigation.; November 13, 2013 at 7:24 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
It would seem to me that sidney would be sitting in the court, cheering on Mangum.....considering his assertion that he, and only he, is the bearer of truth, light and justice for the poor victim of he evil white oppressors who have systematically ruined her life. Golly, pal, now's your chance to back her up and give her that big old high five. And, of course, any time you think the judge isn't handling his business, you could interrupt and tell the whole courtroom exactly how the whole trial is a sham and that YOU are walking outta there with Sister!!!

I think I made it clear that when Mangum refused to give me copies of the written documents she claimed to have received from Dr. Roberts, I made the determination not to go to her trial or give support other than that which I have always provided with my online flogs.; November 13, 2013 at 7:27 AM
Anonymous said...: So now Harr is changing his tune. NOW he is saying that Mangum has written documents, kept from him by her. That is an entirely different story, bro.
Sures like you two had a lover's quarrel and you have your drawers in a twist over it.
Hey Walt, the selected jurors, so far, look like an interesting bunch!; November 13, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"The trial should not be taking place, and would not be if Mangum had worked with me. Instead she has kept written documents from Dr. Roberts from me... to her detriment. Had she worked with me instead of putting her future in the hands of those who have little regard for her, the charges against her would have been dismissed."

Well, it seems even Crystal now realizes you are a deluded megalomaniac as well s her worst nightmare. My how p---ed off you are.

"My predictions that the trial would not take place were based on the assumption that Mangum would work with me... which has not been the case."

And you again show you are a deluded megalomaniac.; November 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"That's ridiculous. She didn't off the batterer. She stabbed him in self defense... a nonfatal wound."

You have presented no evidence that Crystal battered woman or that Reginald Daye was a batterer.

"If anyone offed the batterer it was staff at Duke University Hospital."

A ridiculous statement, since Reginald Daye was not a batterer and Duke did not kill Reginald Daye.

An untrained, inexperienced physician, SIDNEY is verbalizing his resentment and jealousy at the Medical Staff of Duke University Medical Center.; November 13, 2013 at 7:37 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I do not have the investigatory powers and documents to determine if, or if so, who was responsible for a possible hospital homicide."

A ridiculous statement because you, as an obviously inexperienced person with an MD after your name, you would not know what a possible hospital homicide would look like.

"All I have to go by is a few documents from prosecution discovery."

Which you illegally accessed and published, thereby compromising Crystal's defense.

"To my knowledge,"

You are referring to something which is non existent.

"Mangum's defense has never conducted any investigation."

Which should be a clue to you that there was no indication for such an investigation.; November 13, 2013 at 7:43 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

The last I checked, 7 jurors were empaneled for Crystal's trial.The prosecution's witness list has 91 names.

How did this happen?

On multiple occasions you said Crystal would not go to trial if you had anything to say about it. You had an awful lot to say about it.; November 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM
Anonymous said...: The community should be able to expect that the federally mandated 'closest emergency medical facility' be able to provide medical services free from death inducing medical practices or procedures to a reasonable degree, even and especially if they do have to harm another in self-defense to protect their own lives or the lives or another in their protection.

The expectation of a medical facilities abilities to perform intubation services free from death inducing medical errors seems to be a realistic expectation for all to assume.

What is the law that gives the community the right to this expectation of reasonable medical services free from death inducing medical errors?; November 13, 2013 at 8:09 AM
Anonymous said...: As late as a week ago sidney was saying that he was TOLD by Mangum that Roberts had SAID to her there were no problems with the autopsy. Sidney never said anything, a week ago, about any DOCUMENTS he now claims that Roberts gave Mangum and that Mangum refused to give to him. A change of story!! Yet again. A week ago, no mention of documents, nothing in writing. In fact, Harr whined about Roberts not putting anything in writing, claiming that her failure to do so was proof she was in the jihad's pocket. NOW he is claiming that Mangum DID get documents from Roberts and that Mangum wouldn't give him the documents. Too funny, bro....too damn funny.
I love the new story line........if only Mangum had put her life in my hands, she would be free today.; November 13, 2013 at 8:28 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "What is the law that gives the community the right to this expectation of reasonable medical services free from death inducing medical errors?"

Anonymous -- The North Carolina Supreme Court Law Library is in downtown Raleigh (across Morgan Street from the State Capitol). You should be able to find what you're looking for there.; November 13, 2013 at 8:52 AM
A Lawyer said...: You should be able to find what you're looking for there.

Lance, you're assuming that Anon. @ 8:09 can read the English language. He or she certainly can't write it.; November 13, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "The trial should not be taking place, and would not be if Mangum had worked with me."

I thought it was central to your legal beliefs that a trial was essentail to prove innocence.

"Instead she has kept written documents from Dr. Roberts from me..."

New story from Sid. I don't think he understands the difference between fact and fiction.

"... to her detriment."

One thing for sure, Crystal is a survivor. She suspected you would sell her out. So she gave you some of the story, not all of it. You failed her. You sabotaged her case. I think Crystal was doing a good job of protecting herself.

"Had she worked with me instead of putting her future in the hands of those who have little regard for her..."

The man who sabotaged her case. No, experience tells us that Crystal made the right choice on this count.

..., the charges against her would have been dismissed."

How? Every motion you filed was without merit or worse. You divulged confidential information that is now haunting the defense. Admittedly, you could not know Nichols would be fired, but every half-baked lawyer knows to keep confidential information until such time as it might be beneficial to reveal it. A blog is never a beneficial place to reveal defense information.

"My predictions that the trial would not take place were based on the assumption that Mangum would work with me... which has not been the case."

I'm sure she is thankful that she did not work with a sabateur.

Walt-in-Durham; November 13, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
So now Harr is changing his tune. NOW he is saying that Mangum has written documents, kept from him by her. That is an entirely different story, bro.
Sures like you two had a lover's quarrel and you have your drawers in a twist over it.
Hey Walt, the selected jurors, so far, look like an interesting bunch!

I'm not changing my tune. Keep in mind that situations evolve... they are not static. When I learned that Mangum had written documents from Dr. Roberts I asked for copies of them. She refused... to her detriment. So I decided to merely work with what I had.

And, sorry to disappoint you, we are not lovers.; November 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

The last I checked, 7 jurors were empaneled for Crystal's trial.The prosecution's witness list has 91 names.

How did this happen?

On multiple occasions you said Crystal would not go to trial if you had anything to say about it. You had an awful lot to say about it.

I would have had a say if Mangum would have worked with me as I had anticipated. But she didn't, and she kept the reports from Dr. Roberts from me. That is the difference.; November 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
As late as a week ago sidney was saying that he was TOLD by Mangum that Roberts had SAID to her there were no problems with the autopsy. Sidney never said anything, a week ago, about any DOCUMENTS he now claims that Roberts gave Mangum and that Mangum refused to give to him. A change of story!! Yet again. A week ago, no mention of documents, nothing in writing. In fact, Harr whined about Roberts not putting anything in writing, claiming that her failure to do so was proof she was in the jihad's pocket. NOW he is claiming that Mangum DID get documents from Roberts and that Mangum wouldn't give him the documents. Too funny, bro....too damn funny.
I love the new story line........if only Mangum had put her life in my hands, she would be free today.

What I stated was true... Dr. Roberts did, according to Mangum, tell her that the autopsy report was accurate. Not long ago Mangum told me that she was in possession of written documents that admitted that Daye died due to an esophageal intubation. I have never seen the documents.

The question is, will the SBI investigate Dr. Nichols' handling of the Daye autopsy? What do you think?; November 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I'm not changing my tune. Keep in mind that situations evolve... they are not static. When I learned that Mangum had written documents from Dr. Roberts I asked for copies of them. She refused... to her detriment. So I decided to merely work with what I had."

And boy are you p---ed off that Crystal finally realized what a detriment you are.

"And, sorry to disappoint you, we are not lovers."

To Crystal's great benefit. Mayber, hopefully she is turning her life around.; November 13, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I would have had a say if Mangum would have worked with me as I had anticipated. But she didn't, and she kept the reports from Dr. Roberts from me. That is the difference."

Why would she have shared the documents with you?

How badly did you want to distort what was in the documents?; November 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"
What I stated was true... Dr. Roberts did, according to Mangum, tell her that the autopsy report was accurate. Not long ago Mangum told me that she was in possession of written documents that admitted that Daye died due to an esophageal intubation. I have never seen the documents."

I bet you have. The documents probably did not come from Dr. Roberts but from you, copies of your uncorroborated allegations that the cause of death was an esophageal intubation.

"The question is, will the SBI investigate Dr. Nichols' handling of the Daye autopsy?"

They might. Most likely any such investigation would uphold Dr. Nichols' report as valid. Then you will launch a screed that the non existent carpetbagger jihad coopted the SBI.

"What do you think?"

That you are incapable of thinking.; November 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM
The Rectumfinder said...: Sidney:
Will you be posting your address where we can send you a crying towel?; November 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Walt said...: I have a blog post up discussing today's jury selection. You can read it at: http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=6585049057715844216#editor/target=post;postID=9099626779607159062;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=0;src=postname

Walt-in-Durham; November 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "When I learned that Mangum had written documents from Dr. Roberts I asked for copies of them. She refused... to her detriment. So I decided to merely work with what I had."

That's not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. For an indeterminate time you had knowledge there was a written report and yet you criticized Dr. Roberts for not providing it.

Candor, Sid, candor.

Walt-in-Durham; November 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 6:18 AM wrote: "Shouldn't the new lawyer file a motion to ask for the SBI to investigate the fired medical examiner's autopsy report for this case since the integrity of the autopsy reports are in dispute in relation to the medical reports and the police reports?"

North Carolina Rules of Professional Conduct, Rule 3.1

A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification or reversal of existing law. A lawyer for the defendant in a criminal proceeding, or the respondent in a proceeding that could result in incarceration, may nevertheless so defend the proceeding as to require that every element of the case be established.

Meier is in possession of a report that says the autopsy is correct. Thus he must tread carefully with the claim that the "integrity" of the autopsy report is in issue. Further, nothing in the autopsy contradicts the police reports or the medical reports. What Meier can do is force the state to prove each element of the case.

Walt-in-Durham; November 13, 2013 at 6:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 13, 2013 at 6:18 AM

"Shouldn't the new lawyer file a motion to ask for the SBI to investigate the fired medical examiner's autopsy report for this case since the integrity of the autopsy reports are in dispute in relation to the medical reports and the police reports?"

SIDNEY HARR's uncorroborated allegations do not put the autopsy report in dispute.; November 13, 2013 at 6:30 PM
A Lawyer said...: Walt:

I can't read that blog post. It's not up on your regular blog, and the link you posted doesn't work for me.; November 13, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Anonymous said...: I have a feeling ugly,drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum will get away with it not only because she's black but also because she's a woman.The fact that she's black and female and falsely accused white men of gang raping her in a bathroom that was too small during a time warp gives her street creed in the hood.They don't care that she murdered a black man.That's how the black mind,if you can call it that,works.; November 14, 2013 at 3:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt - the reports are NOT the same per Dr. Harr's explanations and upon examination of copies of the reports posted on this blog.

AssHat Troller - get a grip! That was a VERY discriminatory troll you just made - which we are all aware that you are aware of since your hate crime toeing the line crosses over sometime. Now apologize to all like you demand others apologize to you occassionaly.; November 14, 2013 at 4:05 AM
Anonymous said...: You wouldn't know the differences among medical reports if they bit you in the ear…… please, Strunk and White……..it's a small cheap book…...; November 14, 2013 at 4:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr has not been "doctor" for many years and most of us, with increasing evidence, do not believe he ever did much "doctoring". He is aboslutely and completely unqualified to make any medical judgments about any aspect of this case. If Mangum were acting as her own lawyer (which I would have enjoyed seeing, actually), she would have been told to call Harr to the stand to testify.......and THAT, folks, would have been worthy of prime time reality TV. Harr's opinion, as biased, confused, deceit-filled and racist as it is, is just a plain old street opinion. He can spout all he wants....there is bag limit on lying; November 14, 2013 at 6:01 AM
Anonymous said...: So all this time that Harr has been saying that Roberts did not put anything in writing (because she was in bed with Rae Evans), he has been lying......yet again......because now he claims that he knew Mangum had documents from Mangum.
Isn't that nice........caught in another lie.
What else have you lied about, bro? See, that's the problem with telling lies....you get tripped up eventually.....and caught in your own shitstorm.; November 14, 2013 at 6:20 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I would have had a say if Mangum would have worked with me as I had anticipated. But she didn't, and she kept the reports from Dr. Roberts from me. That is the difference."

Why would she have shared the documents with you?

How badly did you want to distort what was in the documents?

I wouldn't have to distort anything. The documents would speak for themselves.; November 14, 2013 at 6:46 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "When I learned that Mangum had written documents from Dr. Roberts I asked for copies of them. She refused... to her detriment. So I decided to merely work with what I had."

That's not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. For an indeterminate time you had knowledge there was a written report and yet you criticized Dr. Roberts for not providing it.

Candor, Sid, candor.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, I do not know if a report by Dr. Roberts exists, I do not know if a written document from Roberts exists... and if so whether or not it is a report.

The only thing I know is that recently Mangum told me that she had a written document from Dr. Roberts and that it acknowledged that Daye was intubated in the esophagus. Whether or not she was telling me the truth, I do not know.

I hope that adds clarity to your understanding of the issue.; November 14, 2013 at 6:53 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Anonymous at 6:18 AM wrote: "Shouldn't the new lawyer file a motion to ask for the SBI to investigate the fired medical examiner's autopsy report for this case since the integrity of the autopsy reports are in dispute in relation to the medical reports and the police reports?"

North Carolina Rules of Professional Conduct, Rule 3.1

A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification or reversal of existing law. A lawyer for the defendant in a criminal proceeding, or the respondent in a proceeding that could result in incarceration, may nevertheless so defend the proceeding as to require that every element of the case be established.

Meier is in possession of a report that says the autopsy is correct. Thus he must tread carefully with the claim that the "integrity" of the autopsy report is in issue. Further, nothing in the autopsy contradicts the police reports or the medical reports. What Meier can do is force the state to prove each element of the case.

Walt-in-Durham

Where do you get the conclusion that Meier is in possession of a report that states the Nichols autopsy report is correct? What you say is mere speculation. I will admit that I've never seen anything in writing from Dr. Roberts.; November 14, 2013 at 6:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: A Lawyer said...
Walt:

I can't read that blog post. It's not up on your regular blog, and the link you posted doesn't work for me.

Thanks for the link, Walt, but I can't access it either. Can you get another link or somehow copy and paste it. Sounds interesting.; November 14, 2013 at 7:00 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
So all this time that Harr has been saying that Roberts did not put anything in writing (because she was in bed with Rae Evans), he has been lying......yet again......because now he claims that he knew Mangum had documents from Mangum.
Isn't that nice........caught in another lie.
What else have you lied about, bro? See, that's the problem with telling lies....you get tripped up eventually.....and caught in your own shitstorm.

I only write about what information is given to me. It is only recently that I was told by Mangum that she had a written document from Dr. Roberts, and I am under the impression that the document was recently produced.

So whether or not written documents exist from Dr. Roberts and whether or not any of them are reports regarding Daye's autopsy report are unknown to me.

Let me know if even further elucidation is required.; November 14, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Harr is backpedaling so fast, he is tripping over his own tail. Keep it up, this is better than cirque de soleil. (or however it is spelled......).; November 14, 2013 at 7:25 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Harr is backpedaling so fast, he is tripping over his own tail. Keep it up, this is better than cirque de soleil. (or however it is spelled......).

Backpedalling? Hardly. Just telling it like it is.; November 14, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Anonymous said...: uh huh, sure you're not.....
first roberts was a great expert1
then roberts was a traitor
first roberts didn't put anything in writing
then, she did and mangum had it and didn't give it to you
now, you don't know if a written report exists by roberts, even though you said mangum told you she had one........
now, you question mangum's truthfulness.
you've told so many different stories......who are you, Mangum's daddy??? she must have inherited her ability to lie from somebody!!!!; November 14, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Anonymous said...: I hear that the Daye family has indeed begun looking into actions it can take against Harr for his posting of Daye's photos. Now, that, folks would be good news indeed if it turns out to be true. I sincerely hope there is an attorney in town who can at least look into the possible actions available to the Daye family. Not sure there is anything they can do.....but I hope he gets his ass sued.; November 14, 2013 at 7:55 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: " It is only recently that I was told by Mangum that she had a written document from Dr. Roberts...

Exactly how recently?; November 14, 2013 at 8:19 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I wouldn't have to distort anything. The documents would speak for themselves."

Thus far the documents have not spoken for themselves. All we have heard is e\what has come from your mouth, and that has been all distortion.; November 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"
Walt, I do not know if a report by Dr. Roberts exists, I do not know if a written document from Roberts exists... and if so whether or not it is a report.

The only thing I know is that recently Mangum told me that she had a written document from Dr. Roberts and that it acknowledged that Daye was intubated in the esophagus. Whether or not she was telling me the truth, I do not know.

I hope that adds clarity to your understanding of the issue."

Distort it or not, first you were saying there ws no written report, now you are saying, based on Crystal's word to you, there is a document in which Dr. Roberts says she admits that she thinks that Reginald Daye was intubated in his esophagus, but this comes after you say you haven't talked in quite a while.

Sounds like a desperate, ineffective attempt at personal posterior camouflage.; November 14, 2013 at 8:45 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Where do you get the conclusion that Meier is in possession of a report that states the Nichols autopsy report is correct? What you say is mere speculation. I will admit that I've never seen anything in writing from Dr. Roberts."

What Walt has said is that you disclosed that Dr. Roberts told Crystal and one of her erstwhile attorneys that Dr. Nichols' report was accurate.

You are more desperate to effect personal posterior camouflage.; November 14, 2013 at 8:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 14, 2013 at 4:05 AM

"Walt - the reports are NOT the same per Dr. Harr's explanations and upon examination of copies of the reports posted on this blog.

AssHat Troller - get a grip! That was a VERY discriminatory troll you just made - which we are all aware that you are aware of since your hate crime toeing the line crosses over sometime. Now apologize to all like you demand others apologize to you occassionaly."

Hey, fabricator, get a grip on yourself. The opinion of an untrained, minimalle experienced incompetent physician are meaningless.; November 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM

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