Wednesday, June 25, 2014

UNC academic-athletic probe doesn’t make sense



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It’s been a while since Orange County District Attorney Jim Woodall set his prosecutorial sights on former UNC-Chapel Hill Professor Julius Nyang’oro, head of the school’s African and Afro-American Studies Department in what has become to be known as an “academic” scandal enabling academically challenged athletes to remain academically eligible to play inter-collegiate sports.  The biased media, with emphasis on The News & Observer, has placed Nyang’oro at the center of this brouhaha and painted him as the mastermind behind the unscrupulous practice of enrolling scholastically under-performing African American students in “no-show” classes and having tutor engage in ghost-writing reports and other class assignments.

With sickening relish in destroying the life and reputation of an African American professional, the N & O, as recently as Sunday, June 22, 2014, heralded the upcoming court appearance by Nyang’oro in a felony criminal case brought by the Orange County D.A. Woodall.  It seems that Nyang’oro accepted $12,000.00 for teaching a class which did not meet and which was heavily enrolled by black student-athletes.  After the media pounced on this apparent misstep by the professor, Nyang’oro stepped down as department chair, was forced into early retirement, and UNC-CH recouped its $12 grand salary by deducting it from Nyang’oro.   

D.A. Woodall was all set to prosecute the head of the African American studies program when things happened which took the air out from under his wings… namely, the light of truth started to shine.  The truth, which is plainly obvious to most Tar Heelians, is that Nyang’oro was in reality a very small cog in a very large academic turbo-engine which was designed to make UNC-CH competitive in football and basketball by making sure that the athletes remained academically eligible.  To begin with, many of these athletes, as exposed by UNC whistleblower Mary Willingham, were not academically of college caliber… some close to being illiterate.  Although they represented UNC on the gridiron and basketball court, these students were not recruited by Nyang’oro, and he did not advise them to enroll in his classes.  Nyang’oro was nothing more than acting as a good soldier… following orders handed down to him by his superiors.  Nyang’oro did not devise or implement the academic-fraud system… he merely executed it as demanded by those in high places.  As a result of the athletic successes and championships, millions of dollars were brought to the school.  It’s a fact that winning college sports teams bring in big bucks to the institutions they represent.

It is evident, especially with recent revelations by former UNC roundballer Rashad McCants that the 2005 NCAA national championship Tar Heel team owes its success in great measure to Nyang’oro whose classes allowed McCants and other star players on that team to remain eligible.  UNC-CH should have given Nyang’oro an award for his fidelity to the school instead of forcing him out and using him as a scapegoat… fodder for a district attorney who has no scruples about criminalizing an innocent African American man.  Truth be told, Julius Nyang’oro should be repaid his $12,000.00 salary because he conducted his class courses as demanded by those high up in the university’s chain of command… he enabled the athletes who struggled in the classroom to remain eligible.  In no way did he defraud the school or the student-athletes.  McCants, and other student athletes in his position were aware of how the academic-eligibility game was played and that their diploma would not be worth more than the sheepskin upon which it was printed.

        In the June 21, 2014 issue of The News & Observer, Dan Kane begins the article “Wainstein probe reaches back” by stating “UNC-Chapel Hill wants to move forward, so Kenneth Wainstein first has to look back.  In this case, way back.”  I disagree with this premise totally.  I have no problem with the university moving forward, but to hire an expensive legal firm to investigate the past is nothing more than a waste of money.  According to the article, Wainstein has been conducting his investigation for at   least four months with Wainstein personally being paid $990.00 an hour and three of his associates being paid anywhere between $440.00 and $775.00 an hour.  How do they get away with demanding such outrageously high compensation?  UNC system President Tom Ross tries to give assurances that the money going to pay these overpriced avaricious attorneys is not coming from taxpayer funds.  I don’t believe that; and if that is the case, where is the money to pay them coming from?  Undoubtedly the legal tab has risen far beyond the million dollar mark and the UNC system will logically recoup the amount spent on this ridiculous investigation by raising tuition.  Although there may be no specific taxpayer fund footing the bill, the state institution can’t help but bilk Tar Heelian taxpayers out of millions of dollars.  Well, at least, $12,000.00 of Nyang’oro’s pay will go towards paying for the investigation.  Comforting to know, isn’t it? 

        Ross has given Wainstein and his firm free rein in the conduct of the investigation… and no wonder it is stretching back so far.  The investigation is so encompassing because those doing the investigation are being compensated on an hourly basis.  Nothing is to be gained by the Wainstein investigation.  Everyone knows what happened… UNC-CH steered academically at risk athletes to “no- show” classes to assure their academic eligibility.  By doing so, it made UNC-CH competitive in the high revenue generating NCAA basketball and football programs.  What difference does it make who was responsible for putting together this academic-athletic fraud?  Instead the UNC system should move forward and put in place measures to assure their athletes are qualified to do college level work, remove no-show classes, and see that athletes, and not tutors, read their assignments and write their reports.  By doing so, however, UNC-CH will more likely than not become permanent cellar dwellers in the basketball and football standings… that is, unless all other universities in the ACC adopt the same standards.
        Orange County D.A. Woodall, has likewise wasted taxpayer money by instigating the worthless felony prosecution of Nyang’oro.  Facing the prospect of drawing in other high-ranking officials into the criminal prosecution of the black professor is the major impetus for Woodall to fall back from his prior aggressive stance in this case.  Evidently, from the Wainstein investigation thus far, Woodall has learned what most Tar Heelians already knew… that Nyang’oro was merely acting in concert with a system which was already well established to insure the university fielded talented football and basketball teams.  For Wainstein to proceed with the Nyang’oro prosecution would only reveal the true folly of the action taken by him against the dedicated and loyal university professor. 
        In order to save face, Woodall is claiming that he’s considering dropping charges because Nyang’oro is being cooperative in Wainstein’s investigation.  Woodall would’ve found Nyang’oro cooperative had he conducted an investigation instead of prematurely jumping forward to indict Nyang’oro as a felon for accepting $12,000.00 in compensation for heading up “no-show” classes for the benefit of UNC-CH.  In The News & Observer article of June 24, 2014, titled “Nyang’oro charge may be dropped,” Woodall actually seems to be shocked by Nyang’oro’s interaction with the Wainstein investigation saying, “It appears that Nyang’oro has cooperated fully with them and actually, I think, maybe gone over and above what was expected from him.”
        UNC-CH history professor Jay Smith, who for some reason has been pressing for an in-depth investigation into the scandal, admitted that it struck him as odd that Nyang’oro is the only person facing a penalty for the scandal.  It’s not so surprising when one considers that Nyang’oro is black.  Unfortunately in this state in this post-civil rights era, race does matter.  Of course, that is clearly evident in the Crystal Mangum case.
        D.A. Woodall had absolutely no compunction about investigating then Deputy Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Clay Nichols for mishandling evidence in a Cumberland County murder case.  But he has refused to investigate Nichols for proven allegations of perjury in Mangum’s trial (testifying that Reginald Daye’s spleen was removed at surgery eleven days prior to autopsy and therefore wasn’t available at autopsy, and yet describing the organ in detail in his autopsy report on Daye) and production of a false and fraudulent autopsy report.  However, Woodall is in league with others, including Durham D.A. Leon Stanback, and the NC Attorney General’s Office in refusing to investigate the work product of Nichols in the Mangum case.  That’s because it is too political and the Powers-That-Be who have hijacked the state’s justice system are sworn to see Mangum suffer retribution for her claims of being sexually assaulted at a March 2006 party hosted by Duke lacrosse players.
        Make no mistake about it… Woodall is the type of district attorney the Powers-That-Be want at the reins of the important criminal/legal position.  A district attorney who is malleable to the every whim of those in control, and a district attorney who is not moved by issues of morality and fairness.  Former District Attorney Mike Nifong would never have indicted Professor Nyang’oro, and dollars to donunts he most definitely would have investigated Medical Examiner Nichols for his actions in the Crystal Mangum case.  The reasons I believe Nifong would act thusly is because he has proven himself to be a man of integrity who is guided by precepts of ethics, fairness, and justice… a man possessing the independence and courage to fully commit to his conscience in doing the right thing.
        These qualities with which Mike Nifong has been endowed marked him as a major obstacle in the takeover of the justice system, and that is the reason that he was forced from his elected position in the powerful district attorney position.  To dissuade others from following in his footsteps, the State methodically persecuted Nifong while the biased mainstream media crucified him.  The State and media collaborated in a demonization enterprise against Nifong that is not dissimilar to that used against Crystal Mangum.
        To Orange County District Attorney Jim Woodall I say: “I have the privilege of knowing Mike Nifong, and you, Mr. Woodall, are no Mike Nifong.”  And that is the reason medical examiners will selectively not be prosecuted for producing fraudulent autopsy reports and committing perjury at trial.  That is the reason why innocent African American professionals will be preyed upon solely for the purpose of ruining their lives and reputations.  That is why all Tar Heelians are currently living under a legal system in which justice has been corrupted and hijacked.  

89 comments:

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

The only person who has accused Dr. Nichols of perjury is you. With your lack of training and your lack of experience to go with the MD degree appended to your name you are not capable of determining whether or not Dr. Nichols perjured himself.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

" Former District Attorney Mike Nifong would never have indicted Professor Nyang’oro, and dollars to donunts he most definitely would have investigated Medical Examiner Nichols for his actions in the Crystal Mangum case."

No dollars or donuts for you.

Corrupt DA NIFONG would not have investigated Dr. Nichols because it would not have induced the black electorate to vote for him.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"UNC-CH should have given Nyang’oro an award for his fidelity to the school instead of forcing him out and using him as a scapegoat… fodder for a district attorney who has no scruples about criminalizing an innocent African American man."

Can we say hypocrisy, boys and girls. This statement comes from a black individual who extols a corrupt DA who tried to convict innocent Caucasian Duke Lacrosse players of a crime which never happened.

And KENHYDERAL claims black on white racism does not exist. SIDNEY's black on white racism is beyond doubt.

Anonymous said...

For anyone who wants an overview of the situation which SIDNEY ignores, check this out:

http://www.margaretsoltan.com/?s=AFAM+Julius

Anonymous said...

Sid -- You say that Woodall is considering dropping the charges aainst Nyang’oro in order to "save face".

I find that doubtful. I think it to prevent UNC-CH officials being placed on the stand to explain what they knew about the classes.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

" To Orange County District Attorney Jim Woodall I say: 'I have the privilege of knowing Mike Nifong, and you, Mr. Woodall, are no Mike Nifong.'”

And Mr. Woodall would take that as an acknowledgement of his honesty and his ethics.

No honorable, ethical prosecutor in this country would want to be another Mike Nifong, whose last name is now a synonym for wrongful prosecution.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"And that is the reason medical examiners will selectively not be prosecuted for producing fraudulent autopsy reports and committing perjury at trial."

I say again, you are a minimally trained, minimally experienced person who has an MD degree appended to his name, most likely inappropriately. You are not capable of determining whether or not an expert medical witness is committing perjury, whether or not he produced a fraudulent autopsy report.

Corrupt DA NIFONG tried to intimidate Lacrosse players into giving perjured incriminating testimony against their team mates. You laud him. You show you have no comprehension as to what perjury is.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Well, at least, $12,000.00 of Nyang’oro’s pay will go towards paying for the investigation. Comforting to know, isn’t it?"

Although he is not a murderer like Shan Carter, it is comforting that he, like Shan Carter, will not be able to profit from his ill gotten gains.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Of course, that(racism) is clearly evident in the Crystal Mangum case."

Of course it was. The false accuser was black. The falsely accused were Caucasian. DA NIFONG used those facts to stir up black on white racism to get himself elected DA. It was Black on White racism, to which KENHYDERAL turns a blind eye because he doesn't want to know about the truth.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"But he has refused to investigate Nichols for proven allegations of perjury in Mangum’s trial".

That was because Dr. Nichols committed no perjury.

You, whose post medical career conssisted of filing and losing frivolous law suits, you who picked a fight with a Duke Security Guard and then tried o sue Duke(a case which you ignominiously lost), you who practiced law without a license and then said you would humiliate the NC State Bar, you are incapable of recognizing perjury. To you, perjury is any evidence which incriminates Crystal the proven murderess.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"That’s because it(an unwarranted investigation of Dr. Clay Nichols) is too political and the Powers-That-Be who have hijacked the state’s justice system are sworn to see Mangum suffer retribution for her claims of being sexually assaulted at a March 2006 party hosted by Duke lacrosse players".

Again you omit that Crystal falsely accused the Lacrosse players of raping her, that all the evidence generated showed beyond any doubt she had lied. You also omit that there is no vendetta against Crystal.

The only vendetta in the phoney Duke rape case is the one you and KENHYDERAL are conducting against the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"These qualities with which Mike Nifong has been endowed marked him as a major obstacle in the takeover of the justice system, and that is the reason that he was forced from his elected position in the powerful district attorney position. To dissuade others from following in his footsteps, the State methodically persecuted Nifong while the biased mainstream media crucified him. The State and media collaborated in a demonization enterprise against Nifong that is not dissimilar to that used against Crystal Mangum."

This statement shows beyond any and all reasonable doubt that you try to purvey lies about the rape case, that the only ones conducting a vendetta are you and KENHYDERAL, and that vendetta is directed against the innocent Lacrosse players because they are innocent of any crime directed against your favorite murderess, Crystal Mangum.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

The only person who has accused Dr. Nichols of perjury is you. With your lack of training and your lack of experience to go with the MD degree appended to your name you are not capable of determining whether or not Dr. Nichols perjured himself.


Answer me this. Was Daye's spleen present at his autopsy (according to Dr. Nichols' autopsy report), or was it absent having been removed during surgery eleven days prior to his autopsy (according to Dr. Nichols' testimony at trial)?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid -- You say that Woodall is considering dropping the charges aainst Nyang’oro in order to "save face".

I find that doubtful. I think it to prevent UNC-CH officials being placed on the stand to explain what they knew about the classes.


I don't agree with you there. There are many reasons that Woodall would be ill advised to prosecute Nyang'oro... the least of which is because the prosecution would likely not prevail in the end.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

" To Orange County District Attorney Jim Woodall I say: 'I have the privilege of knowing Mike Nifong, and you, Mr. Woodall, are no Mike Nifong.'”

And Mr. Woodall would take that as an acknowledgement of his honesty and his ethics.

No honorable, ethical prosecutor in this country would want to be another Mike Nifong, whose last name is now a synonym for wrongful prosecution.


Nifong's name is not synonymous with wrongful prosecution although the biased mainstream media has pathetically gone out of its way to try and make it so.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"And that is the reason medical examiners will selectively not be prosecuted for producing fraudulent autopsy reports and committing perjury at trial."

I say again, you are a minimally trained, minimally experienced person who has an MD degree appended to his name, most likely inappropriately. You are not capable of determining whether or not an expert medical witness is committing perjury, whether or not he produced a fraudulent autopsy report.

Corrupt DA NIFONG tried to intimidate Lacrosse players into giving perjured incriminating testimony against their team mates. You laud him. You show you have no comprehension as to what perjury is.


Answer this simple question: Was Reginald Daye's spleen removed at the time of his April 3, 2011 emergency operation or was it still present at his April 14, 2011 autopsy eleven days later?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Well, at least, $12,000.00 of Nyang’oro’s pay will go towards paying for the investigation. Comforting to know, isn’t it?"

Although he is not a murderer like Shan Carter, it is comforting that he, like Shan Carter, will not be able to profit from his ill gotten gains.


Ill-gotten gains? What are you talking about? He earned that measly salary by presiding over a class that enabled academically challenged athletes to remain eligible... just what the higher ups at UNC-CH wanted!!

He did his job, he should get paid.

The shame is the money being wasted on the sham of an investigation into something that is moot, irrelevant, and which everyone is aware of what took place. Do you think attorney Wainstein should be paid $990/hr for his investigation (which looks like it will now stretch into fall)? I doubt that even Joseph Cheshire charges that much!!

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"But he has refused to investigate Nichols for proven allegations of perjury in Mangum’s trial".

That was because Dr. Nichols committed no perjury.

You, whose post medical career conssisted of filing and losing frivolous law suits, you who picked a fight with a Duke Security Guard and then tried o sue Duke(a case which you ignominiously lost), you who practiced law without a license and then said you would humiliate the NC State Bar, you are incapable of recognizing perjury. To you, perjury is any evidence which incriminates Crystal the proven murderess.


WRONG-O!! The security guard at Duke picked a fight with me as part of a malicious ambush concocted by the school president, the law school dean, and/or their assistants. I was minding my own business and heading to the exit when the security guard approached me. He even stated that he had been told to remove me from the campus... but he never gave a reason why.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Answer me this. Was Daye's spleen present at his autopsy (according to Dr. Nichols' autopsy report), or was it absent having been removed during surgery eleven days prior to his autopsy (according to Dr. Nichols' testimony at trial)?"

How about you answer me. What credentials do you have to qualify you as able to discern whether or not something is malpractice, whether or not an autopsy report is fraudulent.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Ill-gotten gains? What are you talking about? He earned that measly salary by presiding over a class that enabled academically challenged athletes to remain eligible... just what the higher ups at UNC-CH wanted!!"

His class never met. He never taught. He got $12,000 for doing nothing. That made his gains ill gotten.

"He did his job, he should get paid."

No he didn't and no he shouldn't.

"The shame is the money being wasted on the sham of an investigation into something that is moot, irrelevant, and which everyone is aware of what took place. Do you think attorney Wainstein should be paid $990/hr for his investigation (which looks like it will now stretch into fall)? I doubt that even Joseph Cheshire charges that much!!"

The investigation was not wasted. It seems Attorney Weinstein did earn his money.

Is that why you are jealous of him? It seems so.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"WRONG-O!! The security guard at Duke picked a fight with me as part of a malicious ambush concocted by the school president, the law school dean, and/or their assistants."

The recording clearly showed you picked the fight with the security guard. There was no conspiracy directed at you. That was one reason why your frivolous lawsuit was dismissed.

"I was minding my own business and heading to the exit when the security guard approached me. He even stated that he had been told to remove me from the campus... but he never gave a reason why."

So why did you not comply with him rather than pick a fight with him?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I don't agree with you there. There are many reasons that Woodall would be ill advised to prosecute Nyang'oro... the least of which is because the prosecution would likely not prevail in the end."

More words of legal dumbdom from the man who has said, I will prevail against Duke, Crystal will never go to trial, the state has no case, I will humiliate the NC State Bar.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Nifong's name is not synonymous with wrongful prosecution"

Yes it is. Check http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nifonged

"although the biased mainstream media has pathetically gone out of its way to try and make it so."

Corrupt DA NIFONG made it so by wrongfully prosecuting three INNOCENT men for a crime which never happened.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Why did you pick a fight with a security guard at Duke?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"That is the reason why innocent African American professionals will be preyed upon solely for the purpose of ruining their lives and reputations."

No doubt you include yourself among them. You ruined your own reputation before you ever got to Durham by devoting your post medical school career trying to exploit the legal system for personal gain.

Then you further ruined your reputation by advocating that innocent falsely accused men should be convicted of a crime which never happened.

And then you delude yourself by inappropriately calling yourself an advocate for justice.

Lance The Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...

On the previous blog's comments, Kenhyderal stated:

"At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can [prove there were unidentified party attendees]. At least by sworn deposition"

Kenhyderal - where can we find these sworn depositions?

kenhyderal said...

At present they do not exist but, as new evidence comes forth, this will be pursued and party attendees will be asked for sworn depositions

Lance The Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...

Ah. Sworn statements that don't exist from people that don't exist.

Let me know how that works out for you.

Here it is -- 8 years later and the Mangum-enablers are still talking about "new evidence".

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Once again you concede you have no factual, credible evidence that Crystal was raped.

Do you really comprehend the meaning of factual and credible.

If you were to say, Yes, that statement would not be credible.

Anonymous said...

"Nifong's name is not synonymous with wrongful prosecution"

Denial -- it's not just a river in Egypt.

You need to move on...Eventually you'll get to acceptance.

Anonymous said...

Only Sid doesn't understand the difference between sloppiness and a mistake and fraud and perjury. If every mis-statement is perjury and fraud, then Sid is the worst of the lot since he has apparently deliberately lied and misrepresented:

1. The admissibility of Daye's prior record;

2. The applicability of the felony murder rule;

3. The conclusions of Dr. Roberts's report;

And many, many others - he's clearly a fraud and a perjurer just like he claims Dr. Nichols is.

Anonymous said...

Blogger kenhyderal said...

At present they do not exist but, as new evidence comes forth, this will be pursued and party attendees will be asked for sworn depositions



Why would they ever bother giving them? Except for you few loons who think Duke and anyone else cares about Crystal or the rest - everyone else has moved on.

Absent an active case of some sort, there is no reason anyone would give any sworn statements, and they couldn't be compelled.

Anonymous said...

This site is Funny. I'm sorry Mr. Harr you need to find something else to do. So what, the aptopsy report says the spleen was there, but it wasn't. It had nothing to do with the cause of death. Just because he made a mistake, he then admitted on the stand he made a mistake. It doesn't change the cause of death. Get over yourself, and devote your time to something really worth while.

kenhyderal said...

The cause of death was not a stab wound administered by Crystal or a complication of the treatment thereof. Dr. Nicholls knows that, Dr. Roberts knows that, Dr. Harr knows that, Duke Hospital, especially the surgeons who repaired the wound and the respiratory technician who intubated Daye know that, those who tried to resuscitate him and and restart his heart know that. Too bad, thanks to her Defence the jury didn't know that.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDErAL:

"The cause of death was not a stab wound administered by Crystal or a complication of the treatment thereof. Dr. Nicholls knows that, Dr. Roberts knows that,"

Wrong. Both Dr. Nichols and Dr. Roberts concluded that Reginald Daye died as a result of complications of the stab wound.

"Dr. Harr knows that,"

SIDNEY HARR, the minimally trained, minimally experienced person with an MD inappropriately appended to his name knows nothing.

"Duke Hospital, especially the surgeons who repaired the wound and the respiratory technician who intubated Daye know that, those who tried to resuscitate him and and restart his heart know that."

Provide factual credible evidence that is what they believed. Or are you claiming you are psychic, that you can read minds?

"Too bad, thanks to her Defence the jury didn't know that."

Yeah. Too bad for you and Crystal that the jury did not buy into your wish that Crystal get a pass for this crime the way she had gotten passes for her previous crimes.

Meanwhile you continue to wish innocent men had been convicted of a crime which never happened

Instead of psychic I would call you psyvhotic:

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis:

"is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a 'loss of contact with reality'"

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Do you have sworn affidavits from the people you mentioned, Dr. Nichols, Dr. Roberts, the people at Duke who treated Mr. Daye, that they knew that Mr. Daye's death was not due to the stab wound?

A sworn affidavit from minimally trained, minimally experienced SIDNEY HARR would not count for anything because he does not know anything.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

You once criticized me for offering Medical opinions on people whom I did not examine.

Yet here you are offering not your own medical opinions(which would be worthless had you offered them since you have no medical background by your own admission), but the medical opinions of people with whom you never talked.

Talk about hubris.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris:

"Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence, accomplishments or capabilities".

kenhyderal said...

Dr. Anonymous said: "You once criticized me for offering Medical opinions on people whom I did not examine"........ I am offering no medical opinions. I have read the autopsies and came to the conclusion that these physicians are aware of the real cause of Daye's death but they are couching their pronouncements in language designed to, in the case of Nicholls, conceal his careless work and in the case of Roberts to not harshly indict him. All unethically done at the expense of an innocent woman. PS Don't be so condescending I don't need you to define words for me.

kenhyderal said...

Dr. A said: "Do you have sworn affidavits from the people you mentioned, Dr. Nichols, Dr. Roberts, the people at Duke who treated Mr. Daye, that they knew that Mr. Daye's death was not due to the stab wound".... Dr. Nicholls was put under oath and it was clear to me from his testimony that he did not believe that the knife wound caused Daye's death but since he had wrongly said so in his autopsy he vainly tried to protect his already tarnished reputation by obfuscation. Meier went awfully gentle on him.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. Anonymous said: "You once criticized me for offering Medical opinions on people whom I did not examine"........ I am offering no medical opinions."

Yes you are.

"I have read the autopsies and came to the conclusion that these physicians are aware of the real cause of Daye's death but they are couching their pronouncements in language designed to, in the case of Nicholls, conceal his careless work and in the case of Roberts to not harshly indict him."

You convict yourself of offering medical opinions. Without any medical training, without any experience or knowledge in matters medical, you are rendering a judgment that two trained forensic pathologists did not do their jobs properly.

"All unethically done at the expense of an innocent woman."

Not unethically done and not at the expense of any innocent woman. To call it unethical is another instance of you, who have no medical knowledge or medical experience, rendering an opinion on medical ethics.

"PS Don't be so condescending I don't need you to define words for me."

Here you are showing your resentment at someone who is far more qualified than you to render medical opinions.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. A said: "Do you have sworn affidavits from the people you mentioned, Dr. Nichols, Dr. Roberts, the people at Duke who treated Mr. Daye, that they knew that Mr. Daye's death was not due to the stab wound".... Dr. Nicholls was put under oath and it was clear to me from his testimony that he did not believe that the knife wound caused Daye's death but since he had wrongly said so in his autopsy he vainly tried to protect his already tarnished reputation by obfuscation. Meier went awfully gentle on him."

Here you are reading your own interpretation into Dr. Nichols' words, and your attitude that your favorite murderess should get a pass for her most recent crime, like she got passes for her previous crimes.

From your attitude on the Duke Lacrosse case, you, because of your prejudices and your resentment of people who are more qualified than you, it is clear you can not see anything clearly.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

What is clear from your two most recent posts is you are out of touch with reality

Go get help.

Anonymous said...

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Kenhyderal, I have very important information for you which however cannot be put on a blog. Please contact me ASAP.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
This site is Funny. I'm sorry Mr. Harr you need to find something else to do. So what, the aptopsy report says the spleen was there, but it wasn't. It had nothing to do with the cause of death. Just because he made a mistake, he then admitted on the stand he made a mistake. It doesn't change the cause of death. Get over yourself, and devote your time to something really worth while.


It has not been established as fact that the spleen had been removed during surgery. The truth is that the spleen, more likely than not, was in place at the time of autopsy, having been treated at the time of surgery with electrocautery and Surgi-Cel.

What is incorrect is the perjured statement during trial by Dr. Nichols that the spleen was not present.

Let me know if further edification is required.

Nifong Supporter said...


kenhyderal said...
The cause of death was not a stab wound administered by Crystal or a complication of the treatment thereof. Dr. Nicholls knows that, Dr. Roberts knows that, Dr. Harr knows that, Duke Hospital, especially the surgeons who repaired the wound and the respiratory technician who intubated Daye know that, those who tried to resuscitate him and and restart his heart know that. Too bad, thanks to her Defence the jury didn't know that.


An insightful statement worth repeating. Mangum's turncoat attorney Daniel Meier did an expert job in keeping the jury from hearing testimony and seeing evidence that would have saved her from being convicted of murder. The only way that the prosecutors could have prevailed with a conviction was with the major league help of a turncoat attorney for Mangum.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Only Sid doesn't understand the difference between sloppiness and a mistake and fraud and perjury. If every mis-statement is perjury and fraud, then Sid is the worst of the lot since he has apparently deliberately lied and misrepresented:

1. The admissibility of Daye's prior record;

2. The applicability of the felony murder rule;

3. The conclusions of Dr. Roberts's report;

And many, many others - he's clearly a fraud and a perjurer just like he claims Dr. Nichols is.


Answer me this: Was Daye's spleen present at the time of autopsy or not?

kenhyderal said...

Dr. A. said : "To call it unethical is another instance of you, who have no medical knowledge or medical experience, rendering an opinion on medical ethics" .... I have no medical experience and only a lay mans understanding of medical knowledge but I'm no fool either and I do recognize unethical behaviour when I see it

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

What is incorrect is the perjured statement during trial by Dr. Nichols that the spleen was not present."

Perjury: "the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court after having taken an oath or affirmation"

Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Dr. Nichols knowingly made a false statement under oath. If he made a mistaken statement, it does not rise to the level of perjury.

Like KENHYDERAL, you are presuming guilt on the part of someone you dislike because he did not buy into the notion that Crystal the murderess should have gotten a pass for her crimes.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"kenhyderal said...
The cause of death was not a stab wound administered by Crystal or a complication of the treatment thereof. Dr. Nicholls knows that, Dr. Roberts knows that, Dr. Harr knows that, Duke Hospital, especially the surgeons who repaired the wound and the respiratory technician who intubated Daye know that, those who tried to resuscitate him and and restart his heart know that. Too bad, thanks to her Defence the jury didn't know that.


An insightful statement worth repeating."

Hardly. It is a meaningless statement from someone with no medical training or expertise, something you can not recognize because you are a minimally trained, minimally experienced person with an MD appended to your name, inappropriately appended to your name.

"Mangum's turncoat attorney Daniel Meier did an expert job in keeping the jury from hearing testimony and seeing evidence that would have saved her from being convicted of murder."

No he wasn't. This is a meaningless statement from the person who declared, pre trial, that Crystal would never go to trial, that the charges against her would be dismissed. It is a commentary of SIDNEY's grip on reality or lack thereof.

"The only way that the prosecutors could have prevailed with a conviction was with the major league help of a turncoat attorney for Mangum."

Again, another meaningless statement from SIDNEY HARR, who is probably in a snit because Crystal did go to trial and was convicted beyond a reasonable doubt in spite of his words.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Answer me this: Was Daye's spleen present at the time of autopsy or not?"

What has that to do with the fact that Reginald Daye had suffeered a gaping wound of his colon because Crystal stabbed him. Whether or not his spleen was there is irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. A. said : 'To call it unethical is another instance of you, who have no medical knowledge or medical experience, rendering an opinion on medical ethic'" .... I have no medical experience and only a lay mans understanding of medical knowledge"

Correction. You have no knowledge, no understanding of matters medical.

"but I'm no fool either"

That assumes as factual something which is not in evidence.

"and I do recognize unethical behaviour when I see it".

AS you are willfully, totally ignorant of DA NIFONG's glaring unethical behavior in the Duke Lacrosse case, it is obvious you do not.

It is also obvious you are out of touch with reality.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Your failure to recognize how unethical it was for your hero SIDNEY to access and publish Reginald Daye's medical records does not indicate you know what ethical is.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

Your advocacy, that someone be presumed guilty of raping Crystal when there is no evidence said rape ever took place does not indicate you know what ethical is.viselfac

Anonymous said...


The Great Kilgo said,
Kenhyderal, why haven't you sent me an email or otherwise contacted me? Don't you want the names of certain people?

kenhyderal said...

Just call the names to 1-919-560-4322

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

That is the number of the Durham City Police.

Are you afraid of Kilgo contacting you directly?

Do you really think the Police will seek warrants to arrest people named 8+ years after the event by some non credible source?

Duck, KENNY, duck

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

You really are not ready to put your money where your mouth is, aren't you.

kenhyderal said...

This is a sick imposter. The real Kilgo along with myself did put money up in the effort to raise bail for Crystal in the Milton Walker Case. When Hammond put up the bail, pro-bono, the money was given to Crystal. It was at that time NC DSS did a comprehensive review on her fitness as a Parent before awarding her full custody of the children. They were not fooled by the baseless accusations about her that abound on blogs like Liestoppers and by posters here with "Crystal Mangum derangement syndrome.

Anonymous said...

The Great Kilgo said,
I don't dare go to the police because Rae Evans controls them and they will lock me up. They would not however dare do this to someone as well known as you, Kenhyderal

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"This is a sick imposter. The real Kilgo along with myself did put money up in the effort to raise bail for Crystal in the Milton Walker Case."

Whatever. You still can not provide factual credible evidence that any Kilgo ever told you he knew someone who witnessed the alleged sexual assault on Crystal.

"When Hammond put up the bail, pro-bono, the money was given to Crystal. It was at that time NC DSS did a comprehensive review on her fitness as a Parent before awarding her full custody of the children."

That is an indictment of DSS.

"They were not fooled by the baseless accusations about her that abound on blogs like Liestoppers and by posters here with 'Crystal Mangum derangement syndrome.'"

Except Crystal's criminal record is a matter of fact, not a matter of baseless accusations. Crystal's debasement is a consequence of her own actions, not a consequence of imaginary slights on this blog or on the appropriately named Liestoppers.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:


"They(NC DSS) were not fooled by the baseless accusations about her that abound on blogs like Liestoppers and by posters here with 'Crystal Mangum derangement syndrome.'"

But Crystal has fooled and continues to fool you. Or, more likely, you choose to fool yourself.

I remind you, you can not provide any factual credible evidence that Crystal was raped. And in spite of your posturing, you have made no authoritative, meaningful statements on the murder of Reginald Daye.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Answer me this: Was Daye's spleen present at the time of autopsy or not?"

What has that to do with the fact that Reginald Daye had suffeered a gaping wound of his colon because Crystal stabbed him. Whether or not his spleen was there is irrelevant.


The relevance of whether or not Daye's spleen was present has everything to do with Dr. Nichols' credibility. If Daye's spleen was present and Dr. Nichols testified that it had been removed, then that goes towards lack of credibility by the medical examiner Nichols.

The laceration, gaping or not, was adequately sutured by surgeons at surgery and was in the process of healing.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HRR:

"The relevance of whether or not Daye's spleen was present has everything to do with Dr. Nichols' credibility."

It did not.

"The laceration, gaping or not, was adequately sutured by surgeons at surgery and was in the process of healing."

And between the time that Crystal inflicted the laceration and rthe surgeons sutured it up, Reginald Daye's colon was contaminating his peritoneal cavity, putting him at risk for infection, something you would have realized if you had been adequately trained and adequately experienced.

Anonymous said...

Ken Edwards claims to be Crystal's dear friend. If that is true, the blogger posting as kenhyderal is a sick imposter. kenhyderal would not hesitate to call Kilgo and find the missing witnesses to the lacrosse party. Or maybe kenhyderal has been bought off.

Malek "J" Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

Anonymous said...












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Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

How many times in your life have you operated on the colon?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

How many times in your life have you operated on the spleen?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

How many times in your life have you operated on the gall bladder?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

How many times in your life have you operated on the thyroid?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

How many times in your life have you operated on the intestines?

kenhyderal said...

How many times anonymous "illustrious physician" have you, in your life, worked to correct injustice

Anonymous said...

The Great Kilgo said,
Kenhyderal,
In my youth I committed some small peccadillos. Rae Evans has found out about this and can really hurt me if I act now. This is why you really need to call me. My information is very important.

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal has shown that he is a sick imposter.

Malek "J" Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

Anonymous said...

KENHYDErAL:

"How many times anonymous 'illustrious physician' have you, in your life, worked to correct injustice".

I would say Crystal Mangum has none. SIDNEY HARR, with his minimal training and minimal experience is no illustrious physician. He works to promote injustice.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"How many times anonymous 'illustrious physician' have you, in your life, worked to correct injustice"."

Every time I point out how you and SIDNEY presume some innocent men committed a non existent rape, I work to correct injustice.

How do you work to correct injustice when you presume guilt on the part of innocent men when you have no evidence of guilt?

How do you and SIDNEY work to correct injustice when you work to have Crystal given a pass for her crimes?

How does SIDNEY work to correct injustice when he advocates that felony murderer Shan Carter should get a pass for his crimes?

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"How many times anonymous "illustrious physician" have you, in your life, worked to correct injustice".

How does SIDNEY work to correct injustice when he files frivolous, non meritorious lawsuits?

Anonymous said...

The Great Kilgo said,
Kenhyderal,
Just so you can see I am act5ing in good faith, I will give you the initials of some people:
G.O., R.E., KC.J.
Now do you understand why you should get in touch with me?

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal is a sick imposter.

Malek "J" Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"How many times anonymous "illustrious physician" have you, in your life, worked to correct injustice".

You are dodging the issue. Is SIDNEY HARR qualified to make he statements he has been making. The answer to that is a resounding NO!!!!!

That SIDNEY makes such statements in the cause of getting a convicted murderess a pass for her crime, in the cause of advocating that innocent men perpetrated a sexual assault on Crystal, shows he is not working to correct injustice. He is perpetrating injustice.

And as you insist that Crystal was the victim of a sexual assault when there is no evidence the alleged sexual assault ever happened, shows you work too perpetrate injustice.

Instead of dragging red herrings into the mix, why don't you provide factual credible evidence to support your allegations?

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T. You want innocent men convicted of a non existent crime because you dislike them.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

De Facto, you ae saying it was an injustice that Crystal was not raped.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal!
Here I thought that for all your delusions of grandeur and your claims that as a master debater, your opinion was worth more than anyone else's, you were at least trying to help Crystal.
It turns out you won't even try to reach out to Kilgo for the information he has.
I'm really disappointed in you!

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal is a sick imposter and a coward.

Malek "J" Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

kenhyderal said...

So Malek, you think I'm a coward? Tell me, do you live in Lumberton? Can I or one of my friends pay you a visit. There is this little matter of plagiarism I'd like to take up with you.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"So Malek, you think I'm a coward? Tell me, do you live in Lumberton? Can I or one of my friends pay you a visit. There is this little matter of plagiarism I'd like to take up with you."

You are afraid to admit you got it horribly wrong about the Duke phoney rape case.

kenhyderal said...

Guiowen said: "It turns out you won't even try to reach out to Kilgo for the information he has.
I'm really disappointed in you!"............ Guiowen, you know as well as I do that the Anonymous person now posting as Kilgo is an imposter. Either you're being your usual sarcastic self or you're the person posing as Kilgo and are disappointed I wont take the bait. B.T.W. I've given this person an opportunity to prove his identity by asking him a simple question that Kilgo would easily be able to answer.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

SIDNEY HARR tries to argue that Shan Carter, after he chased down Tyrone Baker and shot him, in the process killing 8 year old Demetrius Green, was acting in self defense,

How is that trying to correct an injustice?

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

"I've given this person an opportunity to prove his identity by asking him a simple question that Kilgo would easily be able to answer."

The real Kilgo showed he was incapable of answering any question about the Duke phoney rape case, after boasting he knew more about the Lacrosse case than anyone. Why do you think the real Kilgo can answer any question?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
KENHYDERAL:

SIDNEY HARR tries to argue that Shan Carter, after he chased down Tyrone Baker and shot him, in the process killing 8 year old Demetrius Green, was acting in self defense,

How is that trying to correct an injustice?


Let me try to explain one more time about Shan Carter's situation. Tyrone Baker, a drug dealer from New York, had told the community that he intended to kill those responsible for stealing $40,000 from his apartment. Carter knew Baker was gunning for him. On that day in February 1997, Baker, after knocking down one of Carter's accomplices in the burglary, came towards Carter with a coat draped over his gun hand. Carter then fired two shots at Baker, both of which struck home. As Baker ran, Carter ran in the same general direction in order to take away the angle from a corner grocery store as cover from which Baker could return fire. To keep Baker motivated and on the move, Carter fired a couple of shots in Baker's general direction... none of which struck him. Unfortunately one bullet freakishly ricocheted off a steering wheel striking a young boy in the head... eventually leading to his death.

Comprende?

Anonymous said...

Let ME explain Shan Carter's situation:

1) He's a convicted felon (illegal drug possession and sales), and should not have had possession of a firearm in the first place.

2) Carter stated "“I didn't want to shoot first..." and that “[Baker] ran and I went behind him shooting at him.”

This is NOT self defense.

3) Defendant's conviction of the first-degree murder of Demetrius Greene was based on a theory of premeditation and deliberation under the doctrine of transferred intent, and was also based on the felony murder rule with Baker's murder serving as the underlying felony. [State v. Carter (479A01)]

Shan Carter is a drug dealing, thieving, child murderer.

Comprende?