Tuesday, November 4, 2014

Grievance filed with State Bar against Anne B. Petersen

158 comments:

Nifong Supporter said...


The return to blog site button in the sharlog doesn't work because I mistakenly entered the wrong url address. So it'll take a day or so to correct it.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Sid wrote: "I have no problem with the appeal on questionable admission of the 404(B) testimony at trial, but why doesn't Petersen state facts of the case? Daye didn't die on April 6, 2011."

Apparently you do have a problem with understanding the 404(b) issues as you never discuss them. And, the 404(b) issues are the only ones likely to result in a new trial. I can only conclude that you don't really want to aid Crystal at all.

I am still unclear if you are complaining about the record or the Appellant's Brief? If the record shows an erroneous date of death, then it should be corrected.


Walt, I haven't even really studied the 404(b) issues as I believe that they are not as relevant as problems with the medical examiner's fraudulent autopsy report and perjury. Whereas the 404(b) issue may get Mangum a new trial, the relevant issues with the medical examiner's fraud will clear her of the murder, give her freedom, and put an end to this trumped up legal vendetta-driven farce.

The fact that Petersen made the glaring mistakes shows her mind-set... that she is concentrating on shielding Duke Hospital from responsibility for Daye's death and protecting Nichols from perjury. If she had Mangum's best interests at heart, the least she could've done - even if only arguing the 404(b) issue - is to get the two basic facts of Daye's death correct... (1) he did not die on April 6, 2011, and (2) Daye's spleen was not removed at surgery.

Nifong Supporter said...


There are many other comments I want to address, but I must scoot now to get to the post office before it closes, then I'll be working on another presentation I hope to have delivered tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Petersen's correct name is

Ann B. Petersen

There is no "e" in her first name.

I think we can all agree that Sid's grievance is therefore "false and fraudulent."

In a legal filing, no error, irrespective of how minor, can ever be acceptable.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

The back to blog button worked for me.

Why didn't you include the issues with the jury conflicts and biased behavior? If not to be included in the Appeals Brief and decisions, wWhere is this issue addressed and counted against the integrity of the first trial within the system?

Also, what about the fact that Mr. Daye's death at their own hands by their own malpractice has not been addressed by Duke in a professional manner and as prescribed by law? And if it was, and even if it wasn't, why wasn't this information made an integral part of the prosecutions file and shared with the defense? Where is the appropriate place to bring these details into consideration for action within the system?



Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

What is the penalty for perjury? How are the charges brought before the court? How does the court handle perjury charges?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Perhaps you should write another grievance, and ask the State Bar to take notice and legal resolution of the perjury charges against Dr. Nichols. In any case, the issue needs to be dealt with by the court, because if not, from here on out, nothing any witness or expert says in this case can be reasonably judged since everyone is aware that perjury is allowed.

Thus, even if a new trial is achieved and the proximate medical malpractice and issues are addressed and analyzed in detail with witness and testimoney, none of the medical testimony could reasonably be judged because perjury is allowed by a doctor by the court in this case.

The State Bar needs to correct this major issue in general as well for 'the people' within the Duke / Durham justice system immediately, if not other systems too if applicable. And if not them, who is responsible for oversight of judicial integrity?

In addition, the issues contained in the Habeaus Corpus should be addressed in a grievance as well perhaps?

Anonymous said...

Interesting that for all Dr. Harr claims this is a whole Duke conspiracy, he's never once entertained the possibility that Duke's operative report was wrong, and the autopsy, while sloppy, was right. Why is Duke so messed up in everything, but infallible in their medical records?

Couldn't that explain a lot about why the doctors weren't called, and why everyone, but Sid, is recognizing the issues?

Anonymous said...

Not really since the only thing that indicates the spleen was removed was Dr. Nichol's statement and testimony. However, he himself contradicts that in detailed documentation within his own autopsy report, so basically he is lying against himself either way. Could Duke have removed Mr. Daye's healthy spleen and replaced it with an unhealthy spleen that has obviously been removed from some other unfortunate soul - so then Dr. Nichol's tried to cover up That malpractice and criminal act by Duke, (in addition to other similar issues), in the autopsy report? Good question!

Anonymous said...

It is telling that duke has the type supporters it has on this blog instead of a reasoned, legal, professional, concerned reply from duke and resolution to all the issues that are left to be settled only individually in the minds of all its patients and patrons, students, employees, fans, etc., etc., etc., about this case and the lacrosse case, etc., but not in the court of law nor for the people involved in the cases or for the people in general.

When you actually have people INSISTING duke is beyond reproach even though everyone is left to reproach or not reproach at will based upon what they know or don't know after seeing what is going on through the absence of anything reasoned or legal about what duke is doing in this case(s) to indicate any other reason other than to reproach what they are doing while continuing to watch them not take responsibility nor concern for what they are doing while they are continue to do what they do (or don't do) - and thus leaving all to be reproached by those who do not reproach - or vice versus - because it is duke - afterall ... the only thing left is to question duke and the duke / durham justice system - what the frack are you doing?

Why is that?
Is that the way duke always is?

That IS what you read and see in the 'news' about them afterall - over and over and over again - so it is not just a fluke for duke - it IS who they are and what they do to many.

Perhaps they calculate that doing as they do will bring their desired results. So - really - you have to wonder - what does duke REALLY want and why do they do what they do?

Anonymous said...

is there a specific reason that you continue to repost that copied post, and all the other copied posts you repost, evil duke troll it g...?

what's your point?

guiowen said...

is there a specific reason that you continue to repost that copied post, and all the other copied posts you repost, evil Tinfoil hat ...?

what's your point?

Anonymous said...

Mangum's appeal will never be overturned.Forget about it.

guiowen said...

To the 9:53,
Did you mean to say, Mangum's CONVICTION will never be overturned?

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Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Are you sure the State Bar is the right authority to ask to get Ms. Peterson to correct the Appeals Brief? It states on the grievance in the instructions/notice that a person should not wait for the State Bar to take action on a grievance to resolve one's own pending legal issues, or something to that effect. Did you send Ms. Mangum a copy? Is she under the impression that she should wait for them to act on the grievance before she insists to her lawyer herself that the corrections and revisions are made to the brief, or whatever else it takes to get it done?

Anonymous said...

Of course the State Bar isn't the right place - they can't do any of the things Sid is asking, but Sid knows that if he contacts the Court on behalf of someone else he will again get in trouble for practicing law without a license.

Seriously, why do you continue to think Sid is actually trying to do anything but stoke his own ego? He has yet to take a single action that is beneficial to whomever he claims to be helping - and in fact they are usually detrimental.

Anonymous said...

Because it could help if he just wrote the information down in paper form and gave it to Ms. Mangum to work with - all these things have been discussed on this blog many times in many ways. There is no reason why he cannot do that, so I am sure he will.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"Dr. Harr,

Are you sure the State Bar is the right authority to ask to get Ms. Peterson to correct the Appeals Brief?"

Of course Sid is sure. He usually isn't right, but he is always sure.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

The back to blog button worked for me.

Why didn't you include the issues with the jury conflicts and biased behavior? If not to be included in the Appeals Brief and decisions, wWhere is this issue addressed and counted against the integrity of the first trial within the system?

Also, what about the fact that Mr. Daye's death at their own hands by their own malpractice has not been addressed by Duke in a professional manner and as prescribed by law? And if it was, and even if it wasn't, why wasn't this information made an integral part of the prosecutions file and shared with the defense? Where is the appropriate place to bring these details into consideration for action within the system?


Thanks for letting me know about the button. I know the first sharlog had the wrong link url address, and I thought I had corrected it later in the day. But was not able to get it to work for me. Evidently it does work, so I won't continue to mess with it.

You are correct that I did not include everything, and I believe that the juror misconduct was a valid issue, but I wanted to focus on the medical issues which I believe are the most damaging to Mangum and the most advantageous to attack.

Regarding Duke Hospital, it decided to cover-up its involvement in Daye's death rather than accept responsibility for it. If Duke admitted that it was responsible for Daye's death (which is the fact), then prosecution would have no case against Mangum.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

What is the penalty for perjury? How are the charges brought before the court? How does the court handle perjury charges?


I'm not sure what the penalty is but I believe that it can be pretty severe. I'm not sure how to get anyone to look into the possibility of perjury as all of my entreaties to do so have fallen on deaf ears.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Duke Hospital, it decided to cover-up its involvement in Daye's death rather than accept responsibility for it. If Duke admitted that it was responsible for Daye's death (which is the fact), then prosecution would have no case against Mangum.


Except for felony AWDWIKISI which would lead to manslaughter. You still ignore that Self-Defense was the only way for Mangum to get a NG, and the jury didn't buy self defense.

Deluded and narcissistic as ever Harr.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what the penalty is but I believe that it can be pretty severe. I'm not sure how to get anyone to look into the possibility of perjury as all of my entreaties to do so have fallen on deaf ears.



Would you support them looking into perjury charges against Mangum, since you believe she lied about prior assaults by Daye, since she stated, under oath several times, that he never raised his voice or touched her prior to that night? Or should she get a pass on perjury? (I know, you will blame her lawyers - without any proof.)

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Perhaps you should write another grievance, and ask the State Bar to take notice and legal resolution of the perjury charges against Dr. Nichols. In any case, the issue needs to be dealt with by the court, because if not, from here on out, nothing any witness or expert says in this case can be reasonably judged since everyone is aware that perjury is allowed.

Thus, even if a new trial is achieved and the proximate medical malpractice and issues are addressed and analyzed in detail with witness and testimoney, none of the medical testimony could reasonably be judged because perjury is allowed by a doctor by the court in this case.

The State Bar needs to correct this major issue in general as well for 'the people' within the Duke / Durham justice system immediately, if not other systems too if applicable. And if not them, who is responsible for oversight of judicial integrity?

In addition, the issues contained in the Habeaus Corpus should be addressed in a grievance as well perhaps?


You are exactly correct and that is what brings the credibility of the entire judicial system into question.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Interesting that for all Dr. Harr claims this is a whole Duke conspiracy, he's never once entertained the possibility that Duke's operative report was wrong, and the autopsy, while sloppy, was right. Why is Duke so messed up in everything, but infallible in their medical records?

Couldn't that explain a lot about why the doctors weren't called, and why everyone, but Sid, is recognizing the issues?


The operative report sounds credible and being performed just hours after Daye's admission to the hospital makes me believe no skullduggery was involved. The problem with the autopsy report is that Dr. Nichols not only had the opportunity but the duty to photograph the injuries but he did not. He didn't photograph the internal injuries nor the alleged "defensive injury" scabs to Daye's left upper extremity. A photograph could've shown were the spleen had been surgically removed (if that were the case), or sutures in the fundus of the stomach. The only photos Dr. Nichols took were of the left lung, and the chest cavity was never even entered during surgery.

I believe that most reasonable people would believe the operative and other medical reports over the autopsy report.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Are you sure the State Bar is the right authority to ask to get Ms. Peterson to correct the Appeals Brief? It states on the grievance in the instructions/notice that a person should not wait for the State Bar to take action on a grievance to resolve one's own pending legal issues, or something to that effect. Did you send Ms. Mangum a copy? Is she under the impression that she should wait for them to act on the grievance before she insists to her lawyer herself that the corrections and revisions are made to the brief, or whatever else it takes to get it done?


I'm not sure that the State Bar can make such a demand, but my point was that ever since Nifong's disbarment it is my belief that attorneys are intimidated to abide by the demands of the PTBs rather than to the morally just act. So I tend toward leniency and seek restorative justice... ergo asking the Bar to demand that Petersen correct her mistakes... which I believe were purposely made in order to protect Duke and Dr. Nichols.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm not sure what the penalty is but I believe that it can be pretty severe. I'm not sure how to get anyone to look into the possibility of perjury as all of my entreaties to do so have fallen on deaf ears.



Would you support them looking into perjury charges against Mangum, since you believe she lied about prior assaults by Daye, since she stated, under oath several times, that he never raised his voice or touched her prior to that night? Or should she get a pass on perjury? (I know, you will blame her lawyers - without any proof.)


What I believe to be Mangum's misstatement of facts was only detrimental to herself and I believe that she made them under the direction of her turncoat attorney. The perjury by Dr. Nichols however is entirely different as it is pertinent and prejudicial in convicting Mangum. Surely the perjury by Nichols should be considered more severely, whereas nothing should be made against Mangum for misguided statements which only tended to harm herself.

Anonymous said...

What I believe to be Mangum's misstatement of facts was only detrimental to herself and I believe that she made them under the direction of her turncoat attorney. The perjury by Dr. Nichols however is entirely different as it is pertinent and prejudicial in convicting Mangum. Surely the perjury by Nichols should be considered more severely, whereas nothing should be made against Mangum for misguided statements which only tended to harm herself.



Like I said, you are predictable - blame the attorneys. You do know, if Crystal would say that the attorneys coached her to commit perjury, and she could show that, she would immediately get a new trial - odd that she's never made that claim, only you, and since you don't pursue it, you know your allegations are total fabrications.

You are a complete and total disgrace, but at least you ahve fun.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

What do you think the instructions/notice outlined in detail at the top of the State Bar Greivance form means?

I read it that one should not wait for the State Bar to solve legal issues mentioned in the greivance, because it it not what they do and you will end up mighty sorry if you think it is and wait on them to solve legal issues.

Therefore, you nor Ms. Mangum should NOT be waiting on them to get the Appeal Brief amended to be correct before it goes before the Appeal Court committee for decision.

Do you plan on waiting on the State Bar to correct the Appeals Brief, or are you going to assist Ms. Mangum as suggested you do by writing the arguments detailed on your blog down immediately and giving it to her in order to get the Appeal Brief updated herself?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

You have done all this work on the flogs and sharlogs. All you have to do is write it down in format that is usuable in a written brief, grievance, complaint, writ, etc. (but specifically in this instance, for the Appeals Brief which needs to be done Now). Are you going to do it? Ms. Mangum cannot read your blog to accomplish That for herself, as you mentioned. It would probably be the biggest thing you could do to assist her in her own defense at this time.

Anonymous said...

People like Crystal Mangum are similar to O.J. Simpson,Joran Vander Sloot,Jodi Arias,Lee Harvey Oswald,etc.They have no conscience like a normal person does.It doesn't bother them that they killed innocent people.They only care about themselves.Nifong was the same way.Sociopaths

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

You can do it and really assist her, but it has to be done now.

The detailed amendment to add to the Appeals Brief for the benefit of Ms. Mangum's direct use in updating and correcting the Appeals Brief should contain ALL the issues, not just the medical issues, as all those issues have been discussed on this blog in detail, and should not be left out of consideration and ruling by the Appeals Court about the trial and case so far.

Are you going to do it or not?

Anonymous said...

truly - do you think anyone is actually amused - even yourself - i mean - does this amuse you to consistently troll yourself in order JUST to troll?

we get it

you are a troll

so trollish that you troll yourself over and over again in order just to troll

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Anonymous said...

seriously g... you are an evil duke troll with projection issues (as well as other serious issues)

don't troll me again
thanks

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Anonymous said...

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trolling on

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Anonymous said...

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Note: feel free to plagerize and repeat the above after every one of your posts ... just for amusement and all ... g...

Anonymous said...

What the frack is going on here? I leave for a little while and come back hoping to be elucidated by a nice shlog, but all I find are these evil, mean, hate-filled, nonsensical, crazy making comments from a bunch of insane hate-crime blog mongers.

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Anonymous said...

seriously Tinfoil Hat... you are an evil TinFoil troll with projection issues (as well as other serious issues)

don't troll me again
thanks

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Anonymous said...

good ol' evil TinFoil Hat...
trolling on

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Anonymous said...

The reason there was never any evidence against the Duke lacrosse players - they never touched Crystal Mangum.Who would want to?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

What do you think the instructions/notice outlined in detail at the top of the State Bar Greivance form means?

I read it that one should not wait for the State Bar to solve legal issues mentioned in the greivance, because it it not what they do and you will end up mighty sorry if you think it is and wait on them to solve legal issues.

Therefore, you nor Ms. Mangum should NOT be waiting on them to get the Appeal Brief amended to be correct before it goes before the Appeal Court committee for decision.

Do you plan on waiting on the State Bar to correct the Appeals Brief, or are you going to assist Ms. Mangum as suggested you do by writing the arguments detailed on your blog down immediately and giving it to her in order to get the Appeal Brief updated herself?


I really did not place much stock in the State Bar taking action I requested... although I thought it wouldn't hurt to try.

I also know that Crystal is terribly upset with the current appeals brief... especially with regards to the medical issues. I will talk to her in a couple of days and see how she plans to deal with the false statements in the brief and about the possibility of making a motion or filing something of record to reference the other problems with her legal counsel not covered in the brief.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

You can do it and really assist her, but it has to be done now.

The detailed amendment to add to the Appeals Brief for the benefit of Ms. Mangum's direct use in updating and correcting the Appeals Brief should contain ALL the issues, not just the medical issues, as all those issues have been discussed on this blog in detail, and should not be left out of consideration and ruling by the Appeals Court about the trial and case so far.

Are you going to do it or not?


I plan on discussing it with Crystal in a day or two. I'll also find out at that time if she has any idea of when the hearing will be held.

I agree that all issues for appeal are important, but I believe that ones related to the medical issues are definitely objective and lack subjectivity... the discrepancies are readily apparent.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
People like Crystal Mangum are similar to O.J. Simpson,Joran Vander Sloot,Jodi Arias,Lee Harvey Oswald,etc.They have no conscience like a normal person does.It doesn't bother them that they killed innocent people.They only care about themselves.Nifong was the same way.Sociopaths


First of all, Mangum never killed anyone... and for that matter I don't know for a fact that O. J. Simpson or Lee Harvey Oswald did either. Your impressions about Mangum and Nifong are based on extremely biased media articles intent on demonizing them... not unlike the August 22, 2013 Indy Week's hatchet job on me.

guiowen said...

Sidney,
Do you honestly think it's a good idea to get Crystal to fight with Ann Petersen? Don't you think that if they got along better, Petersen would do a better job handling her appeal?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr hasn't done anything really to cause animosity with Ms. Petersen until now after seeing the brief which is written like Ms. Petersen already has an issue with Ms. Mangum and/or the facts in this case surrounding the malpractice and M.E. report. Ms. Mangum get along better with her lawyer so she will do her job better? Why didn't she do a better job to begin with? The currency for professional qualified nonconflicted legal assistance in order to obtain fair and equal justice and trial in this state is not 14 years in prison just in order for a lawyer to feel like their client agrees with them being criminally and maliciously neglectful against them in their defense assistance just in order to 'get along'.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Then write the information down for Ms. Mangum and give it to her so she can submit herself. Why would you not do that?

Anonymous said...

Is the price the State Bar exacts from its lawyers malicious and criminal professional neglect in order to 'get along' with them? In this case, I guess we'll see.

Walt said...

Anonymous at 4:43 wrote: "Of course the State Bar isn't the right place - they can't do any of the things Sid is asking, but Sid knows that if he contacts the Court on behalf of someone else he will again get in trouble for practicing law without a license.

Seriously, why do you continue to think Sid is actually trying to do anything but stoke his own ego? He has yet to take a single action that is beneficial to whomever he claims to be helping - and in fact they are usually detrimental."


Ding-Ding-Ding Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

Walt-in-Durham

Nifong Supporter said...


guiowen said...
Sidney,
Do you honestly think it's a good idea to get Crystal to fight with Ann Petersen? Don't you think that if they got along better, Petersen would do a better job handling her appeal?


gui, mon ami,

I don't believe Petersen is interested in doing a good job for Crystal. I believe that she, like Daniel Meier, is putting the interests of Duke University Hospital and the medical examiner Dr. Nichols ahead of her client Mangum.

I know that Mangum is extremely unhappy with the way that the brief is written, and I don't blame her. She complained to me about the brief long before she sent me a copy of it... so I did not influence her opinion of it.

Also, how much concern is there for her client if she hasn't even gone to the prison to visit her. When I talked to Crystal yesterday Ms. Petersen had still not visited her.

I think that filing a complaint against Petersen will not hurt Mangum.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr hasn't done anything really to cause animosity with Ms. Petersen until now after seeing the brief which is written like Ms. Petersen already has an issue with Ms. Mangum and/or the facts in this case surrounding the malpractice and M.E. report. Ms. Mangum get along better with her lawyer so she will do her job better? Why didn't she do a better job to begin with? The currency for professional qualified nonconflicted legal assistance in order to obtain fair and equal justice and trial in this state is not 14 years in prison just in order for a lawyer to feel like their client agrees with them being criminally and maliciously neglectful against them in their defense assistance just in order to 'get along'.


Well put. I would rather get good representation from a dedicated lawyer who I did not get along with than have representation by an attorney who did not fight for my interests but was very amiable and gregarious.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Anonymous at 4:43 wrote: "Of course the State Bar isn't the right place - they can't do any of the things Sid is asking, but Sid knows that if he contacts the Court on behalf of someone else he will again get in trouble for practicing law without a license.

Seriously, why do you continue to think Sid is actually trying to do anything but stoke his own ego? He has yet to take a single action that is beneficial to whomever he claims to be helping - and in fact they are usually detrimental."

Ding-Ding-Ding Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

Walt-in-Durham


Hey, Walt.

I think you're stretching things a bit by stating filing a complaint against an attorney, even though doing so as a third party, is grounds for the State Bar to go on the war path against me. Really, the only reason the State Bar bothered harassing me to begin with was because of incessant prodding by the mainstream media.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Walt.

I think you're stretching things a bit by stating filing a complaint against an attorney, even though doing so as a third party, is grounds for the State Bar to go on the war path against me. Really, the only reason the State Bar bothered harassing me to begin with was because of incessant prodding by the mainstream media.



That post explains why you lose at everything you do ... re-read the post, it explicitly states that you are filing with the Bar, not the Court in order to keep the Bar from going after you.

You really can't read and comprehend.

Anonymous said...

He can be an advocate for her and Not be a lawyer, so really there is no problem in that regard. He just has to get Ms. Mangum the detailed medical information and include the things these issues have affected wrongly in this case including the jury conflicts since it is Duke involved; the M.E. conflicts and neglect of the judicial system and M.E. system to handle that situation as they are mandated to do for the safety of the public and integrity of the judicial system; the absense of information from the prosecution concerning the resolution made by Duke to the Daye family for the malpractice; and the perjury by Dr. Nichols concerning the spleen and anything else related to that mess; the issues with the lawyers not defending Ms. Mangum because of the Duke / M.E. situation, etc.

A Lawyer said...

Walt,
Do you have any news about Dr. Harr's lawsuit against Duke? I know Dr. Harr won't report it.

A Lawyer said...

not unlike the August 22, 2013 Indy Week's hatchet job on me

I've asked you repeatedly to cite one single factual statement in that Indy Week article that is untrue. You never have. Telling the truth about someone is not a "hatchet job."

Anonymous said...

the elections are over evil duke trolls ...

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Anonymous said...

It is a fact that Crystal Mangum killed Reginald Daye and falsely accused Duke lacrosse players of raping but none them ever wanted to touch her.Everyone also knows that O.J.Simpson killed two innocent white people and that's why blacks supported him.It's also a fact that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered President Kennedy and a Dallas police officer.As for Nifong he knew all along that the lacrosee players were innocent.

guiowen said...

Anonymous said...

"the elections are over evil duke trolls ...

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Is there a point to your comment?

Anonymous said...

what the frack g ...

what is your problem?

Anonymous said...

Behave yourself, Tinfoil.

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Anonymous said...

If Duke had the wisdom to send patients who obviously have a legal conflict with Duke to another non-duke conflicted medical facility, there would be less of a chance of Duke's medical liability and culpability in these cases. Duke has to take responsibility for creating the environment that exists in NC because of them where even they too can no longer be assured of reasonable legal actions taken against them due to their corruption and perversion of politics, justice, and the 'industry'.

Anonymous said...

Duke did assist in the death of one of the Kennedy's actually, but there was no mention of that in this film. It is curious though, because typically universities are thought to lean more towards democratic or liberal thinking, but in Duke's case, there is a very strong Republican presence and leanings. They seem to be a very brain washed and subverted group of people to their own 'dukeness', deception, and lies.

I talked to one dukie once and they could not answer even their own simple questions without breaking the query down into the stupidest questions I have yet to hear since. It was like the knowledge that a small child would inherently have just wasn't there for their own intellectual benefit or something. But I talked to that person only once, which was a huge relief.

Anonymous said...

I think the reason everyone hates duke is because they treat everyone and everything like a football to be thrown around at whim and desire as long as the throw is designed to win the game, and no one or thing gets in the way of the throw, and if it does, they call foul, and then pick the ball up and throw it again without any regard to the rules or the game, just that they win - or appear to. So if the win is to create chaos, it matters less the rules or the game to them - and in their winning scheme - hopefully even less to the football or whoever participates in or watches the game.

If chaos is the win - then chaotic nonjustice is just another spin.

Anonymous said...

From the standpoint of a citizen witness to this case and this blog coupled with what is known about duke from the news, etc., it is sad to watch such an esteemed and revered for its potential institution of higher learning and research for the betterment of health and social welfare for all people seen in reality as such as you see in this case, this blog and its constant legal struggles because of duke and duke / durham justice system (with cases that are handled in ways that create such unprofessional, unjust, and outrageously corrupt and malicious persecution, harm and results), and other distrubing items in the news that coupled together by connecting dots and seeing what they really do and how they really do it ... really makes a person stop and wonder ... are they different in anything else that they do?

Anonymous said...

In Duke / Durham - since Duke has so much money and provides so many lawyers, doctors, politicians, nurses, leaders, wall street stock brokers, journalists, etc., etc., - by their very nature of who and what they are - the justice system should be more situated to assist those who must face the challenges placed upon them due to the undue influence that Duke has on their life, health, society, legal system, justice system, governmental lobbying and legislative influence backed by unlimited money, etc., etc., etc., - not less (as in having to rely on people with no legal degrees or experience to assist in their defense instead of competent non-conflicted, non-corrupted lawyers in a competent non-conflicted, non-corrupt justice system).

What Duke / Durham has and is now is still as big a joke as everyone has been laughing and arguing about since the lacrosse case, as proven by this case so far.

The fact that the malpractice and autopsy reports were not handled professionally from the start by the DA, judges, duke, the MEs, and the lawyers proves that there exists the very real possibility of people believing Duke would kill Mr. Daye to frame Ms. Mangum for murder, and Duke thinking its chances were better - as always - in chaos, nontruth, confusion, divisiness, and continued harm and threat of harm to many or any.

That is not justice - and neither Ms. Mangum, Dr. Harr, or anyone else has to stand for it.

Anonymous said...

If you were to need duke health services knowing what they have done in this case, would you ask each and every person you came into contact with and/or seek some kind of verification from any other who may affect your health at duke, (insisting that they look you straight in the eye and fill out an affidavit or something), what are your moral opinions about the killing of Mr. Daye? THEN, would you take time to consider their responses carefully before you ever let them put a blood pressure cuff on you or stick a needle in your arm to draw blood or sign their paperwork accepting their services, etc.? ???

How does a person deal with this latest outrage by duke AND still accept their medical services? ???

guiowen said...

Well, I guess there's not much to be done. Could you possibly move out of NC?

Anonymous said...

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guiowen said...

Please mind your manners.

Anonymous said...

hey evil duke troll it g... trolling along as usual

isn't there something else you could be doing other than going insane on this blog This weekend Too?

Note: last 11 posts courtesy of g... regurgitated copied posts so that it has something to troll and go insane about this weekend

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troll on ... go insane ... have fun

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Anonymous said...

hey Tin foil trolling along as usual

isn't there something else you could be doing other than going insane on this blog This weekend Too?

Note: last 11 posts courtesy of Tinfoil regurgitated copied posts so that it has something to troll and go insane about this weekend

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troll on ... go insane ... have fun

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Anonymous said...

I'll say this much for Tinfoil: He makes me miss Kenny. Egads!

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Anonymous said...

truly - do you think anyone is actually amused - even yourself - i mean - does this amuse you to consistently troll yourself in order JUST to troll?

we get it

you are a troll

so trollish that you troll yourself over and over again in order just to troll

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Anonymous said...

If there is a law that states that someone has to take responsibility for questionable actions taken by an institution's medical employees that obviously DO have a conflict of interest with the person who can be then charged with murder, then there has to be another law that says no they can't or NO ONE will want to see a doctor at duke again unless they are sure that duke is not as vengeful and unethical as they appear, or 'likes' them or something.

I don't know, how do you trust them after watching what they do to people? It is difficult for a lot of people I am sure.

I don't feel the need to be a duke fan in order to feel safe in the hands of the medical profession is a very healthy way to run a health care system, do you?

Anonymous said...

It is especially grevious that the concerns addressed in this case about duke's medical services are not addressed openly and honestly, and immediately, but are indeed, in the hands of one person who duke obviously has a major conflict of interest with and such negative history that ALL are aware of without a lawyer to assist her in her defense, and this is allowed to fester in the minds of all the patients, potential patients, other referring doctors, and concerned family members, etc. that they serve for so long.

How can you trust anyone's service in conjunction with duke if they rule with such fear and threats as are presented quite clearly in this case in the form of questionable conflict of interests, fraudulent reports to make duke's medical malpractice appear nonexistant and placing blame of murder on someone who duke obviously has something against. There is no way that you can.

You cannot continue to abuse people on this blog with your admitted trolling as public service to duke and not expect that to become a legal issue now that Dr. Harr has another case against Duke and duke provides public service to all citizens of NC in the form of medical services.

You troll to annoy and falsly discredit on purpose as you stated yourself is your motivation for causing intentional abuse in the form of public service for duke on this blog in our last discussion.

I suggest you stop.

Anonymous said...

The abuse and the support of same abuse on this blog from people with obvious conflicts of interest with duke is documentation of serious issues all face when dealing with duke.

The fact that it is done deliberately to try to keep people from discussing serious issues that affects all in conjunction with duke in an attempt to improve the situation and/or hold them accountable for the harm they cause is indicative of the level of abuse and manipulation of all citizens of NC by Duke through all the means of power, influence, and control at their disposal.

It has become a horrendous deadly joke - and duke continues to laugh and bully others into agreeing things are funny when they harm people - because they are duke - and - so - its funny - laugh

yeah - right

they need to be held accountable instead of laughed at or with

enough is enough

Anonymous said...

Ms. Mangum needs a lawyer to assist her.

The state needs lawyers with no conflicts of interest with duke who can practice in Durham and protect the public from them.

That is the number one problem.

The next is that if you consider what Durham just stated was their right to do basically whatever they want and not be held accountable for it in the duke student case - and acknowledge that duke is basically running the show in Durham - you start to get the REAL big picture of what duke / durham is.

there is NO justice
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Anonymous said...

Except no conflict with Duke and Mangum's attorneys has ever been shown to exist, everything was investigated, they just aren't sharing it with Sid, and people sue Duke all the time, and Duke loses all the time, so your claims that they are all powerful is simply wrong.

You are an idiot.

Anonymous said...

that's because it is the LAW that they take responsibility for their own malpractice

Anonymous said...

They have repeatedly been sued for malpractice - they get sued all the time.

Dr. Roberts explicitly said this was not malpractice, and as Walt and others have repeatedly stated, even if it was, it wouldn't cut off Mangum's liability.

You just keep talking and proving you are a bigger idiot with each post.

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Anonymous said...
Hey, Walt.

I think you're stretching things a bit by stating filing a complaint against an attorney, even though doing so as a third party, is grounds for the State Bar to go on the war path against me. Really, the only reason the State Bar bothered harassing me to begin with was because of incessant prodding by the mainstream media.



That post explains why you lose at everything you do ... re-read the post, it explicitly states that you are filing with the Bar, not the Court in order to keep the Bar from going after you.

You really can't read and comprehend.


You're correct. The problem I have at the library computer is a time limit. I try to respond to as many comments as possible, and sometimes I may miscomprehend a point, as in this case. However, I still believe that I somehow understood what Walt meant even though my response doesn't make it appear so.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
SUPER-IMPORTANT NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENT!

Beginning as soon as I leave the library I'm going into sequestration to work on what will probably be one of the most important, enlightening, insightful, technically interesting sharlogs ever produced. By far, it will bring the entire so-called justice system into perspective as never before.

The sharlog has been written, narrated, and I'm working on imaging phase now... but there's a lot of work to be done on it yet. The library is closed on Tuesday Veterans' Day holiday, so if I'm able, the earliest I will be able to post will probably be sometime Wednesday afternoon.

Set your alarm clocks and appointment calendars. You won't want to miss it.

Also, because I will be focused on working on it (taking breaks to eat, nap, and watch "The Bold and the Beautiful"), that will not allow me any time to respond to comments. But keep 'em coming and I will catch up once I finish with this all-important sharlog!!!

As you were.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

The main question at this point in time is: are you going to put together a medically detailed account of the case and the trial and the evidence, relating all that to the issues of the case that were illegally, wrongfully, and maliciously error prone that were directly related to those details and facts for Ms. Mangum to submit for use in the Appeals trial as a medical expert advocate?

Note that the trolls reposted a lot of comments this weekend that are copied reposted comments not their own (basically most all of them just to troll and be crazies), so no need to reply to any other comment at this point except to answer the question above from my perspective. I need to know if you are or not, and if not, why?

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

The main question at this point in time is: are you going to put together a medically detailed account of the case and the trial and the evidence, relating all that to the issues of the case that were illegally, wrongfully, and maliciously error prone that were directly related to those details and facts for Ms. Mangum to submit for use in the Appeals trial as a medical expert advocate?



If he does, he will be hurting her more than he has. The Court of Appeals will not take new evidence. They are not a trial court. That would be the basis for a MAR after the appeals are unsuccessful (if they are). He needs to not encourage her to file frivolous stuff with the Court of Appeals, it won't work out well for her.

Anonymous said...

Remember, Mangum had a medical expert - Sid just disagrees with her conclusions, so he refuses to acknowledge that.

Anonymous said...

quoted from above: "If he does, he will be hurting her more than he has. The Court of Appeals will not take new evidence. They are not a trial court. That would be the basis for a MAR after the appeals are unsuccessful (if they are). He needs to not encourage her to file frivolous stuff with the Court of Appeals, it won't work out well for her."

??? That is what I asked him, if he was going to use the evidence and facts in the trial to create the detailed medical analysis of the evidence that was at the trial.

All the reports were eventually in evidence in the first trial, and Mr. Daye did not actually die 3 days later after he attacked and assualted Ms. Mangum, only his brain did after Duke intubated him to death for no reason, requiring the removal of life support per Duke a week later. Those facts are in evidence and part of the trial.

Anonymous said...

also quoted from above:
"Remember, Mangum had a medical expert - Sid just disagrees with her conclusions, so he refuses to acknowledge that"

??? - he talks about this on his blog quite a bit actually.

The M.E.'s conclusion is NOT a verdict, which is why it needs to be brought to trial and questioned as would be reasonable, fair, and desireable for anyone in any trial if need be, (or before a charge or convinction is made based upon it certainly, especially if there are discrepancies and the chance for possible issues like in this case, but in this case the need is glaringly obvious of course).

Anonymous said...

Dr. Roberts fully reviewed everything for the Defense, and noted in her report it was not malpractice.

Anonymous said...

seriously, what exactly did she say sf?

Anonymous said...

It's been discussed on here repeatedly, the fact that you and Sid choose to ignore it doesn't meant I am going to keep repeating it. Read the report - Sid posted it. She says it was a routine complication from the procedure (the intubation).

I know Sid wants to pick and choose the parts of her report he agrees with, and say she was a traitor and a turncoat on the rest, but that's not how it works except in his deluded mind.

Read her report - other than Sid, no one else thinks it is remotely helpful to Mangum.

Anonymous said...

she said it was a routine complication from the intubation?

so how can it be a complication from the stab wound then?

you quote it here, since you are so good at the copy and paste method of doin' thangs

note: and if it is routine complication, then there is a routine method of mitigating the complication so that death does not occur from the routine complication

guiowen said...

There was a routine complication from the intubation. There was a routine remedy for this. Unfortunately this remedy corrected the intubation error, but could not correct the damage done by the stabbing.

Anonymous said...

How did the stabbing cause Mr. Daye's brain death evil duke troll g...?

Anonymous said...

If you bleed long enough, you eventually die.

Anonymous said...

There is NO mention of Mr. Daye bleeding to death in ANY of the medical or autopsy reports. None. Dr. Harr has explained this already, and you can clearly see from the records that THAT was never a part of Mr. Daye's health issues that percipitated his death.

Anonymous said...

Duke intubated wrongly, however, there is no mention of blood transfusions needed because they punctured and bled Mr. Daye to death by the intubation tube. NO. It says in the Duke medical report that his brain died from lack of air to the brain caused during intubation obstruction of the lungs, (or something similar). Where DID the lawyer get what she wrote in the Appeals Brief from?

guiowen said...

Why don't you ask her?
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Anonymous said...

why don't you - then you can copy and paste your answer here over and over again to give you something else to troll about

Anonymous said...

Why should I? It's all the same to me whether Crystal rots in jail. So it's better if you do so.

Anonymous said...

Why would they ask the attorneys anything? The attorneys likely wouldn't talk to them anyway, and even if they did, unless they 100% agreed with Sid, even where he is wrong, he would tell them they were traitors and turncoats.

Sid and his army of deluded idiots still ignore that Mangum's attorneys tried to secure a NG for her, and her appellate attorney wants that too, so a new trial. Nothing that happened at Duke could have created a NG, it was the difference between manslaughter and murder. The only NG was, is, and always will be, self-defense.

Sid ignores that. Even if Duke intentionally murdered Daye, unless Mangum could prevail on self-defense, she'd still be a convicted felon.

This case is not about Sid and his crusades, though that is what he makes it about.

He still is really upset she didn't get first. At least now, no matter what happens, that isn't not possible. Even if she gets a new trial, the worst she can get is 2nd Degree.

Anonymous said...

If Duke did not kill him, Mr. Daye would have been the one on trial for assualt.

Anonymous said...

Mangum was an ugly ghetto hooker.There's no way any of the lacrosse players ever would have touched her.They weren't that drunk.I glad she's where she belongs but if she had been punished for lying about being raped Mr. Daye would still be alive and the taxpayers of North Carolina wouldn't be stuck with the caring and feeding of this worthless criminal.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT UPDATE ON LATEST SHARLOG!

I've just released myself from sequestration because there is no way I'm going to complete the latest sharlog any time this week. I think it's safe to say that it should be posted sometime on Monday. That'll give me plenty of time to get the product into what I consider to be the best possible presentation.

Of course, the viewers of this blog site deserve the very best, and I believe that the next sharlog will not only be the most important content-wise, but also presentation-wise... plus it will be chock-full of information.

Still, I will need to spend a lot of time working on it to have it ready by Monday.

Thank you for your patience.

As you were.

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Anonymous said...
Mangum was an ugly ghetto hooker.There's no way any of the lacrosse players ever would have touched her.They weren't that drunk.I glad she's where she belongs but if she had been punished for lying about being raped Mr. Daye would still be alive and the taxpayers of North Carolina wouldn't be stuck with the caring and feeding of this worthless criminal.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously, you and I have disagreement when it comes to esthetics.

Taxpayers can't blame Mangum for wasting money... they need to blame the vendetta-driven prosecutors and PTBs.

As for Daye, the stab wound had nothing to do with Daye's death.

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Anonymous said...
Why would they ask the attorneys anything? The attorneys likely wouldn't talk to them anyway, and even if they did, unless they 100% agreed with Sid, even where he is wrong, he would tell them they were traitors and turncoats.

Sid and his army of deluded idiots still ignore that Mangum's attorneys tried to secure a NG for her, and her appellate attorney wants that too, so a new trial. Nothing that happened at Duke could have created a NG, it was the difference between manslaughter and murder. The only NG was, is, and always will be, self-defense.

Sid ignores that. Even if Duke intentionally murdered Daye, unless Mangum could prevail on self-defense, she'd still be a convicted felon.

This case is not about Sid and his crusades, though that is what he makes it about.

He still is really upset she didn't get first. At least now, no matter what happens, that isn't not possible. Even if she gets a new trial, the worst she can get is 2nd Degree.


You seem to forget a "minor" point... the judge's instructions to the jurors demanded that they find Mangum guilty only if they conclude the stab wound was the proximate cause of his death! Unfortunately, Mangum's attorney sold her out by refusing to bring it to the jurors' attention.

Mangum should never have been charged with murder as the stab wound was successfully treated and had nothing to do with the intubation.

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Anonymous said...
Duke intubated wrongly, however, there is no mention of blood transfusions needed because they punctured and bled Mr. Daye to death by the intubation tube. NO. It says in the Duke medical report that his brain died from lack of air to the brain caused during intubation obstruction of the lungs, (or something similar). Where DID the lawyer get what she wrote in the Appeals Brief from?


I think that Ann Petersen fabricated the date of Daye's death as being April 6th in order to erase everything that transpired from that day forward... in order to shield Duke University Hospital.

She went along with Dr. Nichols' perjured statement that the spleen had been removed at surgery on April 3rd in order to help protect the medical examiner from perjury.


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Anonymous said...
There is NO mention of Mr. Daye bleeding to death in ANY of the medical or autopsy reports. None. Dr. Harr has explained this already, and you can clearly see from the records that THAT was never a part of Mr. Daye's health issues that percipitated his death.


You are absolutely correct. What I find troublesome about Petersen's appeal brief is that she makes it seem as though the stabbing resulted in serious blood loss... "that he was taken to surgery to stop the bleeding" etc.

Blood loss was definitely not a problem and led to no complications.

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Anonymous said...
It's been discussed on here repeatedly, the fact that you and Sid choose to ignore it doesn't meant I am going to keep repeating it. Read the report - Sid posted it. She says it was a routine complication from the procedure (the intubation).

I know Sid wants to pick and choose the parts of her report he agrees with, and say she was a traitor and a turncoat on the rest, but that's not how it works except in his deluded mind.

Read her report - other than Sid, no one else thinks it is remotely helpful to Mangum.


Esophageal intubation is not a routine complication... especially if left in place until brain death and cardiac arrest ensue. Also, it is extremely rare if such a fatal mistake is made by someone experienced enough to administer a paralytic in order to facilitate the procedure. Rarely do people die of an esophageal intubation... or have brain death because it rarely takes place.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

When you get done with this current sharlog you are working on, is it possible to post text versions of the medical records and autopsy reports, and any other documents filed as evidence in the trial that is part of your sharlog presentations. Printing and reading some of the longer documents and the entire of the medical records is very difficult in the form that they are available on this blog in the sharlogs. Thank you in advance.

Anonymous said...

The reason the taxpayers of North Carolina,in other words whites,are stuck paying for the upkeep of a worthless criminal like Mangum is because she commited arson,car theft,prostitution,public drunkenness,murder,and she falsely accused the nice young men on the lacrosse team of raping her when the fact is none of them would ever want to touch her or even look twice at her.She's nasty.

Anonymous said...

To the 5:54,
There are plenty of black taxpayers in NC. You might not like CGM -- I myself don't particularly like her -- but even she has some rights.

Anonymous said...

What the frack is going on here? I leave for a little while and come back hoping to be elucidated by a nice shlog, but all I find are these evil, mean, hate-filled, nonsensical, crazy making comments from a bunch of insane hate-crime blog mongers.

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Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

When you get done with this current sharlog you are working on, is it possible to post text versions of the medical records and autopsy reports, and any other documents filed as evidence in the trial that is part of your sharlog presentations. Printing and reading some of the longer documents and the entire of the medical records is very difficult in the form that they are available on this blog in the sharlogs. Thank you in advance.


My upcoming sharlog, hopefully posted on Monday, will contain a transcript of the narrative.

With regards to the documents, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Most of the records are scanned, so it would not be possible for me to copy and paste the text onto Word, or a PDF file for example.

The narrative transcriptions are not Flash documents... if that's what you mean.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT UPDATE ON SHARLOG!

The file of the sharlog is too large, so I had to divide it into two parts. I have completed part one... it is pretty much ready for posting, but I have just begun to work on imaging and composing Part Two.

Looks like I will have it posted late Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

As you were.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Did you scan the document in yourself? At the time you scan the document in you can save the new scanned document into a .pdf, or .tiff or other image type file. If you can upload those scanned document files in a format such as these mentioned, others could then download and read or print with an appropriate software application.

Anonymous said...

It is telling that duke has the type supporters it has on this blog instead of a reasoned, legal, professional, concerned reply from duke and resolution to all the issues that are left to be settled only individually in the minds of all its patients and patrons, students, employees, fans, etc., etc., etc., about this case and the lacrosse case, etc., but not in the court of law nor for the people involved in the cases or for the people in general.

When you actually have people INSISTING duke is beyond reproach even though everyone is left to reproach or not reproach at will based upon what they know or don't know after seeing what is going on through the absence of anything reasoned or legal about what duke is doing in this case(s) to indicate any other reason other than to reproach what they are doing while continuing to watch them not take responsibility nor concern for what they are doing while they are continue to do what they do (or don't do) - and thus leaving all to be reproached by those who do not reproach - or vice versus - because it is duke - afterall ... the only thing left is to question duke and the duke / durham justice system - what the frack are you doing?

Why is that?
Is that the way duke always is?

That IS what you read and see in the 'news' about them afterall - over and over and over again - so it is not just a fluke for duke - it IS who they are and what they do to many.

Perhaps they calculate that doing as they do will bring their desired results. So - really - you have to wonder - what does duke REALLY want and why do they do what they do?

Anonymous said...

How incredibly stupid are you?

Anonymous said...

not as incredibly stupid as you?

at least i don't approve of any of the bs - you sit there and troll and argue about that case for years on end (for what reason? who knows) and then cheer on even worse judicial conduct in the current murder case

you are a bs evil duke trollie

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Anonymous said...

To Tinfoil at 7:26 PM and 4:47 AM:

Egads. That is some whacky-assed blog mongering!

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Anonymous said...

FY evil duke troll it g...

seriously

do not troll me again

Anonymous said...

Who is g?

Anonymous said...

FY evil duke tinfoil hat...

seriously

do not troll me again

Anonymous said...

Has anyone thought to ask Mike Nifong about the Daye case and Mangum's conviction?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Has anyone thought to ask Mike Nifong about the Daye case and Mangum's conviction?



Reports at the time were that he was subpoenaed and a potential witness. I doubt he's paid that much attention to it, but he was a prosecutor, I'm sure he sides with his former office.

Anonymous said...

Plus ... by his own admission, Sid isn't interested in actually asking anyone about the case - he doesn't want anything, or anyone, to disagree with him - as shown by how he ignores anyone who shows he is wrong here.

Sid tells people they need to agree with him, he doesn't ask them what they think, he tells them they either agree with him, or are part of the PTB and Duke Conspiracy.

Anonymous said...

and your a bs evil duke troll who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes, pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons you troll for defending themselves or others from your constant duke centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to your bs evil ways and beliefs

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and Tin foil is a bs evil duke troll who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes, pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons he trolls for defending themselves or others from his constant Tin foil centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to Tin foil's bs evil ways and beliefs

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Anonymous said...

here - just to keep it simple when you copy and paste this wornout post again:


and your a bs evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes, pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, including the tin hat and tinfoil hat for the purposes of trolling itself repeatedly with others' copied/pasted posts especially on the weekends to keep itself amused, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons you troll for defending themselves or others from your constant duke centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to your bs evil ways and beliefs

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guiowen said...

Please mind your manners.

Anonymous said...

and your a bs evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes, pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, including the tin hat and tinfoil hat for the purposes of trolling itself repeatedly with others' copied/pasted posts especially on the weekends to keep itself amused, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons you troll for defending themselves or others from your constant duke centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to your bs evil ways and beliefs

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guiowen said...

Just mind your manners.300

Anonymous said...

just watch your manners you bs evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes, pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, including the tin hat and tinfoil hat for the purposes of trolling itself repeatedly with others' copied/pasted posts especially on the weekends to keep itself amused, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons you troll for defending themselves or others from your constant duke centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to your bs evil ways and beliefs

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guiowen said...

Tin Foil at 1:28,

It's because of people like you that this blog has been classified as a hate site. I realize you think that's a big joke, but in fact it means Sidney has to go to the library, wait in line there for the use of a computer, and then can only spend half an hour on the computer. Shame on you!

Anonymous said...

yeah right evil duke troll it g... - everyone knows it is YOU who does all those things, and then blames it on others just to troll them over and over.

you are one sick evil duke troll

i've already told you not to troll me again on this blog g... so instead you do it every weekend non-stop, and consistently throughout the week, every week ... for your amusement.

Dr. Harr has to delete some of your hateful posts under the kendyrle rules as he calls them, and everyone has asked you to stop at some time or another, so seriously, why don't ya just stop?

???

Anonymous said...

What's an "it"?

Anonymous said...

Tinofil makes me miss kenny. Egads.

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Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

Everyone who posts here seems to get along with each other and play nicely, except for you.

Straighten up and fly right.

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Anonymous said...

that's because ya'll are THE evil duke troll gang and hatemonger blogmongers ... ya'll fool noone but yourselves

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Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

Where's the love?

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Anonymous said...

there is none for the evil duke troll gang and what they do and why they do it ... that's why they do what they do ... because they are evil duke troll it hatemonger blogmongers

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Anonymous said...

C'mon Tinfoil, show us the love!

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Anonymous said...

seriously, wtf ... your new trolling angle: show us the love?

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show us the love by stopping your hateful trolling evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hatemonger blogmonger

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Anonymous said...

What's an "it"?

The Great Kilgo said...

Show us the love!

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Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

The only hateful person on this blog is you.

You need to bring the love when you post here.

Anonymous said...

love for what evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmoner?

??? are you trolling about now?

Anonymous said...

Here - copy and paste the following updated post when you get the urge to troll yourself again next time:


just watch your manners you bs evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes and then demands to be loved by their 'target' for committing redundant self-trolling in order to troll others and the 'target', pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, including the tin hat and tinfoil hat for the purposes of trolling itself repeatedly with others' copied/pasted posts especially on the weekends to keep itself amused, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons you troll for defending themselves or others from your constant duke centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to your bs evil ways and beliefs

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A Lawyer said...

love for what evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmoner?

What does "what evil troll it g" mean? Is that even in English?

And what's a "blogmoner"? Someone who comes on a blog and moans?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Did you scan the document in yourself? At the time you scan the document in you can save the new scanned document into a .pdf, or .tiff or other image type file. If you can upload those scanned document files in a format such as these mentioned, others could then download and read or print with an appropriate software application.


I scan documents into jpeg files, but I don't know what else I can do when I put them in a Flash file.

I will include an html file with the text of the next sharlog.

Right now it looks as though the earliest the sharlog will be posted is tomorrow, Tuesday... Wednesday at the latest. I finished Part One... Part Two contains a lot of information so coding it is very time consuming.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I'm assuming that if you post the .jpeg files on your blog, that others could then read and print the documents just like any other .jpeg file on the internet.

Anonymous said...

You can also find the briefs (at least) at the North Carolina Court of Appeals Electronic Filing site. So, if that's what you want to read - you can look there. The entire record on appeal is there as well, so a lot of documents are there.

Anonymous said...

It's great to see Duke football doing so well again.I hope the lacrosse team can win another national championship and make it three in a row.