Friday, February 20, 2015

Corresponding for Justice: Update February 20, 2015


863 comments:

«Oldest   ‹Older   801 – 863 of 863
Fake Kenhyderal said...

Kenny -- What have YOU done to help the poor, disenfranchised Crystal raise money to pay for her legal fees?

FYI -- Your last post is a classic example of a logical fallacy. 10 points if you can correctly identify which one.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
Who was it that put up Crystal's bail money two years ago? That seems like a good place to start raising money. If you and Tinfoil each put up just half the same amount, you'll be on the way to putting together a good war chest.
Then there are the thirty-something members of the J4N Committee. Yo should be able to get 10 or 20 thousand each.
Presto! you'll have a million bucks!
Hope you can use my advice!

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Kenny/Tinfoil -- Here you go:

http://www.gofundme.com/


I can be your hero, baby....

Anonymous said...

Guiowen,

Sidney missed an opportunity in organizing fundraising events. Those events also provide an opportunity to galvanize public opinion.

I would think that Mike Nifong would be anxious to come out of retirement and step back into the limelight in the search for justice for "his victim."

Victoria Peterson could organize a chicken dinner similar to the District Attorney Mike Nifong Appreciation Events she successfully organized.

Sidney wasted his many talents on this blog.

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil = Jackie Wagstaff

Anonymous said...

Why do you say that?

Anonymous said...

Kenny would fly in for the events. I can anticipate the emotionally charged tributes to their close personal,friend that Kenny and Malek Williams would deliver.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Kenhyderal's writing style is similar to that I've seen from Jackie Wagstaff.

Especially the use of ellipses......

Just sayin'

I can be your hero, baby...

kenhyderal said...

Fake KH said: Your last post is a classic example of a logical fallacy."......................... Affirmanti incumbit probatio .

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Just wanted to let you know that I've been sequestered the last couple of days working on the latest Sharlog. I am nearly completed with Part One... should have it finished by tonight. Part Two is partially completed (audio narrative laid out), and is much shorter than Part One. I should have it completed in a couple of days.

This sharlog will contain documents that have never before been seen on this blog site. It is a very enlightening one.

As you were.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...
Kenny = Joseph Arbour also has the advantage of being on the Public Defender roster for Wake County.

But I have to ask - do you feel Sid's time was better spent putting together his "sharlogs" than attempting to raise money for a Crystal Mangum defense fund?

For that matter, what have you done with regards to raising money for her defense?


Fake Kenhyderal, it doesn't take a brilliant defense attorney to have acquitted Crystal Mangum... only one with integrity. In fact, the only way in which the prosecution could've prevailed is by having a turncoat attorney representing Mangum.

If I had the opportunity to represent Mangum in court, she would be free now. I don't think it takes a well-heeled attorney charging big bucks to win Mangum's case. All it really took was one who showed up and had the integrity to want to fight for her.

kenhyderal said...

Fake KH said:What have YOU done to help the poor, disenfranchised Crystal raise money to pay for her legal fees".... Unfortunately I put faith in the lofty, US Constitution that, in theory, guarantees indigent defendants an adequate defence and also in the moral imperative incumbent on professionals to give those assigned to them the same quality of defence as they provide to wealthy clients. That's how naïve I was.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...
From what I can tell, Sid would be happy to see Joseph Arbour representing Ms. Mangum.

Sid seems impressed by his willingness to "fight for his client".

Mr. Arbour is a graduate of SUNY Buffalo and The Franklin Pierce Law Center (now University of New Hampshire Scool of Law).

He practiced law in NY from 1985 to 2006.

He was admitted to the NC bar in 2006.

He represented Jonathan Broyhill, so he has recent murder trial experience.

I don't see any conflict or bias WRT Duke.

So there you go...

I can be your hero, baby...


You're darn tootin' I'd like'd've liked to have seen Joseph Arbour representing Mangum. Had he fought like he did for Broyhill, he would've torn the prosecution to shreds... no doubt about it.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

So now we know. Neither Sid nor Kenny have done anything to help Crystal Mangum fund her defense.

I'm sure she appreciates it.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

I gave you the link to start a fund me campaign to hire a lawyer. Make it happen. Hire Joseph Arbour.


I can be your hero, baby....

Anonymous said...

But, Fake Kenny, Sid has produced lots of sharlogs viewed by the dozen people who frequent this site. Kenny has contributed many clever posts and demonstrated his google skills.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Roberts agreed to a conclusion not based on the law as the judge clarified it to be in the trial. It was also based on an autopsy report and ME that she discredited in her own report based heavily on the evidence from the Duke medical reports, so if this conclusion is the same, it is questionable and thus needs to be questioned. Just because the defense attorney did not take the time to obtain the report before the very end of trial (but only because Ms. Mangum insisted to the judge that she receive a written copy of the defense autopsy report) does not mean that it did not hold value as defense evidence. It only means he did not bother to prepare an adequate defense about the issues - which is obvious and supported by the facts of the trial.

If Dr. Harr wants to assist Ms. Mangum without a lawyer, he will have to assist her in writing a new appeal then right? ???

Maybe we should all put aside our duke biases and hatred towards nondukies a bit on this blog and help him write a new appeal brief for Ms. Mangum if one is needed.

Dr. Harr - are you game?


At this point, I don't think my writing an appeal would bring results. Only by enlightening people to the truth about Mangum's corrupted conviction and incarceration can result in her freedom. Ergo, I need to continue with enlightenment.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Well no wonder the judicial system is so screwed up in NC if the courts know they can provide unfair representation and court proceedings only to have the appeals court attorneys ignore all issues except for those which they choose to address per their own agendas (for those whom have to depend on the Public Defender system especially).

This case is obvious though in that the appeal attorney mistated the date and manner of death. If the judges do not address that issue in the briefs and the trial, then they are not judging by the evidence available in the trial - simply playing the conflicted duke game right along with the rest of the system.


Your are absolutely correct. It is inexcusable that Mangum's own attorney can't even get the proper date of Daye's death correct. That in itself brings the credibility of her entire brief into question.

Anonymous said...

Sid,

Why is it when other people get facts incorrect, it brings their credibility into question, but when you get facts incorrect, it doesn't?

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You still haven't answered the question:

Was Sidney time better spent producing sharlogs viewed by a few people or attempting to raise money to fund Crystal's defense?

guiowen said...

You see, Kenny, it isn't true that only rich people can get a good defense:

Sidney said:
"... it doesn't take a brilliant defense attorney to have acquitted Crystal Mangum... only one with integrity."

guiowen said...

In any case, Kenny, tell us how things are done in Canada. How do the poor, minority, mothers of three get an attorney?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Thank you for your replies. It is helpful to know that you plan to no longer offer Ms. Mangum legal advice and assistance.

Have you let Ms. Mangum know that she needs to be taking legal matters and decisions into her own confidence and not rely upon you to assist her in her legal defense, since your main goal is enlightenment of the public through your sharlogs and blog?

It would be only fair to inform her of your choice of action to enlighten only like you have just informed those on this blog.

Does she have access to legal assistance other than the current defense appeals attorney to answer any questions of law she probably still has about her case and her appeal?



Anonymous said...

Sid's ready to produce his next shart!

Anonymous said...

He's hard at work on it!

Anonymous said...

Who let the dogs out {woof, woof, woof, woof}
Who let the dogs out {woof, woof, woof, woof}
Who let the dogs out {woof, woof, woof, woof}
Who let the dogs out {woof, woof, woof, woof}

Anonymous said...

SIDNE HARR:

"If I had the opportunity to represent Mangum in court, she would be free now."

Ths from the man who boasted hewould prevail against Duke in civil court and would humiliate the North CarolinaState Bar for calling himout for practicing law without a license.

Nifong Supporter said...


UPDATE ON SHARLOG...
Just completed Part One. Part Two is much shorter and hopefully will be completed and ready to be uploaded along with Part One by this weekend.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNE HARR:

"If I had the opportunity to represent Mangum in court, she would be free now."

Ths from the man who boasted hewould prevail against Duke in civil court and would humiliate the North Carolina State Bar for calling him out for practicing law without a license.


My civil suit with Duke University is not over. Many lawsuits last more than several years. As far as the NC State Bar goes, its attention on me was nothing more than a waste of its time and effort. It should concentrate on regulating and oversight of the licensed attorneys... not lay people. The only reason the State Bar went after me was because the media egged them on to do it.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Thank you for your replies. It is helpful to know that you plan to no longer offer Ms. Mangum legal advice and assistance.

Have you let Ms. Mangum know that she needs to be taking legal matters and decisions into her own confidence and not rely upon you to assist her in her legal defense, since your main goal is enlightenment of the public through your sharlogs and blog?

It would be only fair to inform her of your choice of action to enlighten only like you have just informed those on this blog.

Does she have access to legal assistance other than the current defense appeals attorney to answer any questions of law she probably still has about her case and her appeal?


Had a nice visit with Crystal today. With regards to her appeals attorney, I believe that she's stuck with her... at least for the time being. I have no confidence in Ann Petersen to work towards Crystal's best interests. She's a turncoat just like Meier and all of her other attorneys.

Anyway, I really believe that enlightenment is the means by which Mangum will gain her freedom. Attorneys have too much to fear in a case as political as Mangum's.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Sid,

Why is it when other people get facts incorrect, it brings their credibility into question, but when you get facts incorrect, it doesn't?


Whatchootalkin'bout, Willis? If you'll notice, in my sharlogs I back up my premises and assertions with factual documents from prosecution discovery. Is there any specific "fact" that you allege that I got incorrect?

Walt said...

Sid does this sound familiar: The petition for rehearing en banc was circulated to the full court. No judge requested a poll under Fed. R. App. P. 35. The court denies the petition for rehearing en banc.
For the Court
/s/ Patricia S. Connor, Clerk
?

That is the order denying your petition for rehearing en banc. Of important note not one single judge requested a poll under rule 35. That is no one, not one, nobody, nada, wanted to mess with your fool appeal anymore. So, go appeal to the Supreme Court. You'll get the same answer there too.

Walt-in-Durham

Lance the Intern said...

" Is there any specific "fact" that you allege that I got incorrect?"

Sid -- You got several of your "facts" incorrect about the Broyhill case.

You have yet to admit to them.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Sid does this sound familiar: The petition for rehearing en banc was circulated to the full court. No judge requested a poll under Fed. R. App. P. 35. The court denies the petition for rehearing en banc.
For the Court
/s/ Patricia S. Connor, Clerk?

That is the order denying your petition for rehearing en banc. Of important note not one single judge requested a poll under rule 35. That is no one, not one, nobody, nada, wanted to mess with your fool appeal anymore. So, go appeal to the Supreme Court. You'll get the same answer there too.

Walt-in-Durham


Walt, I am disappointed, but not disheartened. Naturally, I will appeal to the Supreme Court. Hopefully I will get a fair and just outcome there.

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
" Is there any specific "fact" that you allege that I got incorrect?"

Sid -- You got several of your "facts" incorrect about the Broyhill case.

You have yet to admit to them.


Hey, Lance.

As far as the Broyhill case goes, my interest and research into that case is quite peripheral... However, that is a case wherein a "stabbing death" did occur, unlike Mangum's case. Daye was not "stabbed to death" and did not die secondary to the stab wound.

Whatever facts I may have gotten wrong on the Broyhill case are really not of relevance.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

I am confused by your insistence that enlightenment on your blog and through your sharlogs is the best route to assist Ms. Mangum. This is basically because she has to win her case in the judicial system in order to secure her immediate release, not on this blog.

Are you saying that publishing information about the case alone on your blog and in your letters will put adequate pressure on the judicial system to provide a fair and just trial? I question this theory, because so far the judicial system has ignored the issues in this case even though you have been putting pressure on 'them' through your blog, sharlogs, letters and meetings.

You speak consistently about turn-coat lawyers and have even tried to provide Ms. Mangum with legal advice and assistance yourself, so obviously you are aware that the services of a lawyer are important and pivotal in this case.

My question to you about whether you have fully informed Ms. Mangum so that she is not led to believe that you are going to provide the legal actions she herself needs to take in order to secure a just trial and defense for herself remains unanswered by you. I ask again because you have stated before that you knew what was best for her, but obviously she needs legal defense assistance to assist her in the judicial system which you cannot provide for her. Is she aware that she needs to be taking all actions and steps needed to secure a just and fair legal defense and trial herself - directly - and not rely upon you to achieve progress on those matters for her?

Thank you for your replies as always.


I believe that Mangum is in the position she is in large measure because not only the turncoat legal representation she has consistently received, but because the mainstream media has universally suppressed the truths about Daye's death and his fraudulent autopsy report. Finding an attorney who will not sabotage Mangum is a tall, if not impossible order. I believe that my best avenue to achieving Mangum's release is by enlightening the people about what the media is trying to keep hidden from them. One way to do that is to force an investigation into the case.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I understand your position on the matter. However, my question is whether or not Ms. Mangum is aware of your position and if you have made it clear to her what the extent of your assistance is that you count on when you assure her she will be freed soon from incarceration? I ask because there are obvious legal issues that remain unsolved in her case, and as such, the services of a lawyer are still required in order to address the legal issues through the judicial system (or Ms. Mangum needs to present them herself).

A Lawyer said...

My civil suit with Duke University is not over. Many lawsuits last more than several years.

Your lawsuit is effectively over, since the chances of the Supreme Court granting certiorari in your case are as close to zero as you can get. Your lawsuit has lasted more than several years only because you don't give up when you lost the first time. Remember, the point of this discussion was your prior claim that you would prevail over Duke in the lawsuit.

As far as the NC State Bar goes, its attention on me was nothing more than a waste of its time and effort.
Again, you are changing the subject. You predicted not only that you would win, but that you would "humiliate" the State Bar in court.

Given your decades-long pattern of losing every lawsuit you are in, despite your predictions of success, why do you think you could have successfully defended Mangum in her murder trial?

Anonymous said...

Sid said:

"Whatever facts I may have gotten wrong on the Broyhill case are really not of relevance."

Why is it when other people get facts incorrect, it brings their credibility into question, but when you get facts incorrect, it doesn't?

Anonymous said...

Now durham is a place where if you get in an accident or require medical services - you deal with people who think they can get away with whatever they want to do or actually do and blame it on you to continue to do as they please - in their hospitals, by their cops who kill instead of investigate and protect the safety of the public, and by the judicial system who by their very allowing of injustice, inequality, and corruption to exist - perpetuate and encourage the injustice, inequality, corruption, and crime that durham is famous for to exist.

Anonymous said...

I want answers about Duke's killing of Daye. US Courts are just one big game. Crystal is not afraid of the truth and doesn't care if the prosecutors and the jury know the truth. Her Lawyers want to conceal the truth because they, like most of the rest of society there, think she is guilty. When an Attorney presumes his client is guilty they don't give a passionate defence. As well, involving the almighty Duke and taking them on is something most there do not have the courage to undertake. In a just and fair system the truth should determine the outcome. The ones afraid of the truth are Duke and the North Carolina Justice system; not Crystal. Keep her off the stand. She might get confused. Hey, this is not a chess game it's a persons future that is at stake. Prosecution, Defence and Defendant should all have the same desire; get at the truth. That is unless the Defendant is guilty, then trickery and flim-flam to confuse a Jury is their strategy. Crystal never confided in her Attorney that she was guilty he just assumed she was. "If the glove doesn't fit you must acquit"

Anonymous said...

The mainstream media has once again painted a mirage for its viewers, readers, and subscribers regarding the April 3, 2011 stabbing incident involving Crystal Mangum and Reginald Daye. What the media wants you to believe is that Reginald Daye was a good citizen with a kind heart who took it upon himself to try and help Crystal Mangum, who had been burdened by notoriety of the Duke Lacrosse case and the February 17, 2010 case in which she was found guilty of several misdemeanor charges. It suggested that Daye offered to share his apartment with Crystal and her three children, who were for all intents and purposes homeless. And that he did so despite a warning from his nephew about Mangum.

Then, the media would have you believe that Crystal, who had been labeled by police as the physical domestic abuser against her boyfriend in the February 17, 2010 incident, followed an established pattern by stabbing Daye, for the purpose of stealing his money. Conscious, after being wounded, Daye told police that Mangum stabbed him and took his money.

guiowen said...

So, was this defendant guilty? Is that why they tried to confuse the jury?

guiowen said...

To the 8:57,
OK, now that you've told us what the media want us to believe, please tell us what you'd like us to believe.

kenhyderal said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
kenhyderal said...

The Anonymous post @ 8:51 is a cut and paste of a post I made on February 15th 2015 and the post @ 8:57 is a cut and paste of a thread by Dr. Harr on May 9 2011. Really Guiowen this troll has no original thoughts of their own and are simply here making mischief.

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You're back!

Are you going to answer the question that you have avoided three times previously:

Do you believe Dr. Harr's time was well spent producing sharlogs or would he have been better off raising funds for Crystal's defense?

Anonymous said...


THE GREAT KILGO said...
"I have agreed to meet next month in Durham with Malek Williams. If kenhyderal refuses to join us, perhaps Ubes will."

March 21, 2015 at 4:48 PM


kenhyderal,

Do you have the courage to confront Kilgo? Or, will you continue to hide in your make-believe world in Dubai?


Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
I want answers about Duke's killing of Daye. US Courts are just one big game. Crystal is not afraid of the truth and doesn't care if the prosecutors and the jury know the truth. Her Lawyers want to conceal the truth because they, like most of the rest of society there, think she is guilty. When an Attorney presumes his client is guilty they don't give a passionate defence. As well, involving the almighty Duke and taking them on is something most there do not have the courage to undertake. In a just and fair system the truth should determine the outcome. The ones afraid of the truth are Duke and the North Carolina Justice system; not Crystal. Keep her off the stand. She might get confused. Hey, this is not a chess game it's a persons future that is at stake. Prosecution, Defence and Defendant should all have the same desire; get at the truth. That is unless the Defendant is guilty, then trickery and flim-flam to confuse a Jury is their strategy. Crystal never confided in her Attorney that she was guilty he just assumed she was. "If the glove doesn't fit you must acquit"


I agree with most of what you say except that I feel that Mangum's attorneys knew that she was innocent of murder and that the esophageal intubation was the proximate cause of death, but that they were in a conspiracy with the prosecution and others to shield Duke University Hospital from responsibility and were trying to help convict their own client.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT.

Just an update... I had planned to post my latest sharlog today, however, I added a lot of stuff on Saturday, and it set the timeline back. I will work on it tonight and try to complete it for posting on Monday, tomorrow. At the latest the sharlog will be posted on Tuesday... both parts.

As you were.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

I understand your position on the matter. However, my question is whether or not Ms. Mangum is aware of your position and if you have made it clear to her what the extent of your assistance is that you count on when you assure her she will be freed soon from incarceration? I ask because there are obvious legal issues that remain unsolved in her case, and as such, the services of a lawyer are still required in order to address the legal issues through the judicial system (or Ms. Mangum needs to present them herself).


I think I effectively conveyed my plan of attack during my visit with Crystal on Thursday. Right now she's stuck with Attorney Petersen, who I believe is a turncoat. When the time comes for legal action, then I'll introduce it. But, as we speak, I am trying to arrange for future legal assistance.

Nifong Supporter said...


Sorry about the delay. This sharlog is taking longer than expected, but I want it to be as perfect as possible. Won't get it posted today, but barring any unforeseen circumstances I will try to get it online as soon as the library opens tomorrow at 9:00am EDT.

I'm going home now to work on it until it's completed.

Anonymous said...

"I agree with most of what you say except that I feel that Mangum's attorneys knew that she was innocent of murder and that the esophageal intubation was the proximate cause of death, but that they were in a conspiracy with the prosecution and others to shield Duke University Hospital from responsibility and were trying to help convict their own client."

You are incredibly stupid.

Anonymous said...

No white man would ever have wanted to have sex with Crystal Magnum.She's nasty.

Ana Steele said...

Flog me, Sid!

A Lawyer said...

Why is it when other people get facts incorrect, it brings their credibility into question, but when you get facts incorrect, it doesn't?

A question Dr. Harr should answer, but won't.

A Lawyer said...

Anonymous said...
No white man would ever have wanted to have sex with Crystal Magnum.She's nasty.
March 30, 2015 at 10:22 PM


Whoever the racist jerk who posted that is, he should knock it off. I don't believe that Mangum was raped at the lacrosse party because there is overwhelming evidence that she wasn't, but race doesn't enter into it.

Anonymous said...

She said she was assualted, so sex didn't play into it. And yes, there was a racist overture to the party activities, since no black player was there and since it was reported that 1) they had requested white performers and 2) racist remarks were yelled at the black performers as they left.

The troll who continues to post those remarks only reminds people of those facts.

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

Weren't the racist remarks by the lacrosse party attendees in response to racist remarks by the strippers?

Also, what is racist about requesting a stripper with a particular "look" or physical characteristics? Does the fact they requested female strippers make them homophobic?

Let's be truthful: Mangum claimed she was subjected to a brutal gang rape. She claimed none of her attackers wore condoms and that they ejaculated in and on her multiple times. That is clearly a lie.

In fact, there was no assault or criminal activity of any kind directed against Mangum at the the lacrosse party. That has been established beyond cavil. So, you are the one who is trolling.

No sausage for you.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

I am not trolling.

You call someone who states what was reported about what happened a troll?

Ya'll need to get a grip on the abuse ya'll dole out to innocent bystanders of the lacrosse bruhaha and corruption. You can recite your 'facts' all you want, but there were many other 'facts' that you don't mention that were made public - so QUIT abusing US about it! egad and egad

She said she was assaulted - if a proper investigation had been done to begin with .... But ya'll blame innocent bystanders (re: NC citizens) for that too eh? Even when you sit here and cheer on Duke killing Mr. Daye with malpractice and covering it up with the full cooperation of the NC justice system - ya'll still blame innocent NC citizens or whatever for that too?

Why don't you actually help fix the justice system and Duke's inability to take responsibility for their own errors and corruption instead of blaming everyone else for ya'lls party and Duke's errors and corruption?

blah

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"I agree with most of what you say except that I feel that Mangum's attorneys knew that she was innocent of murder and that the esophageal intubation was the proximate cause of death, but that they were in a conspiracy with the prosecution and others to shield Duke University Hospital from responsibility and were trying to help convict their own client."

You are incredibly stupid.


No, actually I am very insightful. My life experiences (many of which have been taken out of context, mixed with rumors and lies to bash me in the Indy Week article of August 22, 2013) have enabled me to have an understanding of truth and reality... and that is what I'm sharing with you and everyone who visits this blog site.

guiowen said...

tinfoil,
Ia there any way we can get you to stop whining?

Anonymous said...

Devon Sherwood,the lone black player on the team at the time,was in fact at the party that night.

«Oldest ‹Older   801 – 863 of 863   Newer› Newest»