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Tuesday, March 31, 2015

How the NC legal system and the courts failed Crystal Mangum

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Anonymous said...: "Anonymous said...

Mr. Meier himself told the judge he did not have enough time to prepare an adequate defense did he not? Therefore, I am sure Mr. Meier would agree that he did not provide adequate defense, since he did not have the time needed to prepare. However, not only was he not prepared, most of the questions he asked were objected to and denied by the judge. Was that because he did not know how to ask questions in a trial?

May 21, 2015 at 4:57 PM"

The problem was, crystal herself, at the instigation of sidney, prevented multiple attorneys from effectively representing her. She herself wasted most of the time she had available to defend herself by believing incredibly stupid sidney's assurances that the state had no case against her and that the charges would be dropped before the case ever went to trial.; May 21, 2015 at 7:24 PM
Anonymous said...: She was left with two months to prepare for trial with a new lawyer after the previous one quit due to conflict of interest even though she asked the lawyer to continue representing her anyway. That is not her fault, and it certainly is not fair, just, nor does it provide equal protection for Ms. Mangum or the citizens of this state.; May 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Maybe the reason there is so much crime in Durham is because Duke makes out to be the 'leaders' of Duke yet descriminates wholeheartedly against women, the sick, ill, and infirmed, the disabled, persons of color, persons with lesser intellectual capacity or ability, persons with less education, money, prestige, power, differing political parties and religions; exploits, decieves, rapes, kills, makes a mockery of the law and the justice system with its corrupted practices, and have been proven to be child predators of the worst kind (for a start). That's what the 'leaders' (re: Duke) of the city do.; May 21, 2015 at 8:40 PM
kenhyderal said...: The meta-narrative is that Crystal was responsible for the unconscionable and unconstitutional delay in brining her to trial. This is simply untrue. Her firing of a non-performing lawyer cause no delay whatsoever. I challenge anyone to prove that Crystal was the cause of any such delay. When Meier did need a delay to prepare it was denied. She was ready and anxious to go to trial with Vann immediately. North Carolina needs to institute the right to a speedy trial.; May 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM
Anonymous said...: " Blogger kenhyderal said...

The meta-narrative is that Crystal was responsible for the unconscionable and unconstitutional delay in brining her to trial. This is simply untrue. Her firing of a non-performing lawyer cause no delay whatsoever. I challenge anyone to prove that Crystal was the cause of any such delay. When Meier did need a delay to prepare it was denied. She was ready and anxious to go to trial with Vann immediately. North Carolina needs to institute the right to a speedy trial.

May 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM"

kenny is in obvious denial. Not surprising considering his denial of the fact that crystal falsely accused men of raping her not on one but on two occasins.; May 22, 2015 at 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

More likely someone contacted Meier and told him someone was posting in his name. But, in any event - he's clearly not going to respond to your random call-outs, whether he sees them or not.

If you want answers, get permission from your girl Crystal to talk to Meier, and contact him directly. Instead you keep posting here, proving you are:

A joke, whiner, liar, and idiot.; May 22, 2015 at 5:30 AM
Fake Dan Meier said...: Go f*ck yourself, you Canadian bastard.; May 22, 2015 at 7:44 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Intern said...
"... Dr. Nichols is not the only one to commit perjury in Mangum's case... so did the star witness for the prosecution Aykia Hanes"

What perjury did Aykia Hanes commit? T what point in her testimony did she willingly lie?

Practically everything Aykia Hanes said on the witness stand was perjured testimony. Prosecutor Coggins-Franks tried to pull from Hanes a statement that she heard Mangum scream "I'm going to f___ you up." Ms. Hanes, unwilling to perjure herself on that comment refused to say what she may have said to Officer Marianne Bond, so the prosecution had to call Bond to the stand afterwards and ask her what Hanes said she heard Mangum yell. Surprisingly Meier correctly objected, but the partial judge allowed the statement onto the record. That is when Officer Bond stated that Hanes told her that she heard Mangum yell "I'm going to f___ you up."

Unfortunately I've not been able to publish my sharlog and need to have my computer looked at again, however time deadlines force my attention towards preparing a brief for the U.S. Supreme Court. After that is concluded, I will concentrate on getting my sharlog online.; May 22, 2015 at 12:41 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Do you know if Ms. Mangum indeed filed a written complaint to the State Bar against the appeal attorney yet? Did she also file one against Mr. Meier?

I know that she filed a complaint with the Bar against Meier because they already wrote her to say that they had dismissed her complaint.

I believe that she also filed a complaint with the Bar against Petersen, but I can't say with 100% certainty... I'd have to go over letters from her, or ask on my next visit.; May 22, 2015 at 12:47 PM
Lance the Intern said...: Hold on a second, Sid -- Are you trying to say that Aykia Hanes is responsible for what may be perjured testimony from Officer Bonds?

I'm just not tracking - so I'll ask again:

What SPECIFICALLY did Aykia Hanes say that was a lie?

What source are you relying on for this? Crystal Mangum (who herself has admitted to committing to perjury)?; May 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Anonymous said...

Mr. Meier himself told the judge he did not have enough time to prepare an adequate defense did he not? Therefore, I am sure Mr. Meier would agree that he did not provide adequate defense, since he did not have the time needed to prepare. However, not only was he not prepared, most of the questions he asked were objected to and denied by the judge. Was that because he did not know how to ask questions in a trial?

May 21, 2015 at 4:57 PM"

The problem was, crystal herself, at the instigation of sidney, prevented multiple attorneys from effectively representing her. She herself wasted most of the time she had available to defend herself by believing incredibly stupid sidney's assurances that the state had no case against her and that the charges would be dropped before the case ever went to trial.

You've got your facts wrong. Actually I did not get actively involved with Crystal's case until nearly a year later when she requested my help stating that her attorney Shella was not doing anything for her. All I did was then request that she send me prosecution discovery at which time Shella just up and quit.

When Vann came on the case, I gave him information that led to his retaining Dr. Christena L. Roberts, only he refused to provide Mangum with a written copy of her report. Mangum later dismissed him in order to obtain a copy, but none was forthcoming.

After Mangum was released on bail, I pleaded with her to study her case and prepare to represent herself as I believed that she would not be able to get legal counsel that would put her interests before those of Duke University Hospital. That seemed to be the case.

Scott Holmes, to my knowledge never filed any significant motions on Mangum's behalf during his tenure as her attorney. The only thing he did was try and get me to remove my sharlogs about the case from the blog site and turn over all discovery to him. Something which I refused to do. Then as the trial date approached he jumped ship with a flimsy conflict of interest excuse.

Meier never contacted me or asked for my assistance. When I learned he had been appointed to represent Mangum I was extremely concerned about his prior association with the Hospital Corporation of America. And I was concerned about other reports of him selling out his clients.

Around the time Meier was assigned, the Indy Week did its hatchet job article on me and I pretty much did not hear from Crystal after that... until after she was convicted.

Meier should have asked for a continuance as he had a little over a week to prepare for trial.; May 22, 2015 at 1:02 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Lance the Intern said...
Hold on a second, Sid -- Are you trying to say that Aykia Hanes is responsible for what may be perjured testimony from Officer Bonds?

I'm just not tracking - so I'll ask again:

What SPECIFICALLY did Aykia Hanes say that was a lie?

What source are you relying on for this? Crystal Mangum (who herself has admitted to committing to perjury)?

Hey, Lance.

Specifically what I'm saying is that Aykia Hanes lied to the court when she said she heard Daye yell "get the hell out" and "leave me alone." According to notes of Officer Marianne Bond on her April 12, 2011 report, Hanes told her that she heard Mangum yell "I'm going to f___ you up."

Now during trial, when Coggins-Franks tried to draw out that statement from Hanes, Hanes refused to say it. Coggins-Franks would ask "Did you hear Mangum say anything else" and Hanes kept responding "No."

So after Hanes had left the witness stand, Officer Bond was called to the stand and Coggins-Franks asked her what Hanes had told her during her interview. That is when the jury heard Bond say that Hanes told her she heard Mangum yell "I'm going to f___ you up."

Officer Bond did not commit perjury because that is possibly what Hanes did say to her, but both Officer Bond, the prosecutor, and Meier knew that the testimony of Hanes was false... especially about what she heard coming from Daye's apartment.

Hopefully this provides sufficient elucidation. Like I said, once I get my stuff shipped off to the Supreme Court regarding my case, I will address this issue in greater detail and provide all evidence.; May 22, 2015 at 1:13 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "According to notes of Officer Marianne Bond on her April 12, 2011 report, Hanes told her that she heard Mangum yell "I'm going to f___ you up." "

If Ms. Haynes lied when she made this statement to Officer Bonds, that is not perjury.

" Aykia Hanes lied to the court when she said she heard Daye yell "get the hell out" and "leave me alone.""

What is your proof that she lied? Were you present when the events occurred? Do you have some other reliable source that will confirm that Mr. Daye did not at any time yell these (or similar) comments?; May 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney claims: Meier should have asked for a continuance as he had a little over a week to prepare for trial.

Meier was appointed as Mangum's counsel on September 5. The trial began on November 12. 68 days (almost 10 weeks) is not "a little over a week."; May 22, 2015 at 1:55 PM
Anonymous said...: So - Sid admits Meier objected to the statements, but it's still Meier's fault. Oh, and the only evidence they are false is Crystal says the statements didn't happen, so Haynes must be committing perjury when she says they did.

You got a copy of that dismissal letter from the Bar Sid? Start proving your allegations. Earlier you said she had filed against Peterson, but weren't sure about Meier, now you are changing your story. Start proving it.; May 22, 2015 at 2:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Is there already a copy of your lawsuit that you are preparing a brief for the US Supreme Court on this blog?

What exactly is your lawsuit about again? It has been awhile since you discussed it in any detail.

Please let us know what exactly is happening with Ms. Mangum's complaints to the State Bar if she agrees to share that information here. Thank you.; May 22, 2015 at 3:05 PM
Anonymous said...: "Nifong Supporter said...

Practically everything Aykia Hanes said on the witness stand was perjured testimony."

Does anyone seriously believe that sid, who can not distinguish between truth and his deluded fantasies is capable of detecting perjury?; May 22, 2015 at 4:13 PM
Anonymous said...: "Nifong Supporter said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Anonymous said...

Mr. Meier himself told the judge he did not have enough time to prepare an adequate defense did he not? Therefore, I am sure Mr. Meier would agree that he did not provide adequate defense, since he did not have the time needed to prepare. However, not only was he not prepared, most of the questions he asked were objected to and denied by the judge. Was that because he did not know how to ask questions in a trial?

May 21, 2015 at 4:57 PM"

The problem was, crystal herself, at the instigation of sidney, prevented multiple attorneys from effectively representing her. She herself wasted most of the time she had available to defend herself by believing incredibly stupid sidney's assurances that the state had no case against her and that the charges would be dropped before the case ever went to trial.

You've got your facts wrong."

No I don't.

You are trying to lie your way out of your delusions.; May 22, 2015 at 4:15 PM
Anonymous said...: " Nifong Supporter said...

Officer Bond did not commit perjury because that is possibly what Hanes did say to her, but both Officer Bond, the prosecutor, and Meier knew that the testimony of Hanes was false... especially about what she heard coming from Daye's apartment."

Again sid manifests his incredible stupidity.; May 22, 2015 at 4:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid - what is your proof she didn't hear the statements? You claim perjury. You really are a fucking idiot.; May 22, 2015 at 4:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

I am confused about what you are doing to assist Ms. Mangum in obtaining her freedom from an unjust incarceration based upon a trial and case clearly riddled with corruption and injustice.

You repeatedly claim on this blog that her freedom will be soon after you discover some new way to show the injustice of the trial/case/charges etc., but none of the sharlogs nor this blog has actually changed the corruption in the system and this case, nor has it secured just representation and defense for Ms. Mangum.

Do you tell Ms. Mangum the same thing is the question? Do you tell her your next blog post or letter will win her case, or do you advice her in how to write her own appeal brief, her own State Bar complaints, prepare for her trial, provide her with a detailed written report about the medical discrepancies instead of in sharlog form which she cannot access, hold in confidence information that might harm Ms. Mangum and her case if shared on this blog for "enlightenment", etc.?

WHAT are you doing?; May 23, 2015 at 12:09 AM
Anonymous said...: It is telling that duke has the type supporters it has on this blog instead of a reasoned, legal, professional, concerned reply from duke and resolution to all the issues that are left to be settled only individually in the minds of all its patients and patrons, students, employees, fans, etc., etc., etc., about this case and the lacrosse case, etc., but not in the court of law nor for the people involved in the cases or for the people in general.

When you actually have people INSISTING duke is beyond reproach even though everyone is left to reproach or not reproach at will based upon what they know or don't know after seeing what is going on through the absence of anything reasoned or legal about what duke is doing in this case(s) to indicate any other reason other than to reproach what they are doing while continuing to watch them not take responsibility nor concern for what they are doing while they are continue to do what they do (or don't do) - and thus leaving all to be reproached by those who do not reproach - or vice versus - because it is duke - afterall ... the only thing left is to question duke and the duke / durham justice system - what the frack are you doing?

Why is that?
Is that the way duke always is?

That IS what you read and see in the 'news' about them afterall - over and over and over again - so it is not just a fluke for duke - it IS who they are and what they do to many.

Perhaps they calculate that doing as they do will bring their desired results. So - really - you have to wonder - what does duke REALLY want and why do they do what they do?; May 23, 2015 at 5:00 AM
Anonymous said...: What the frack is going on here? I leave for a little while and come back hoping to be elucidated by a nice shlog, but all I find are these evil, mean, hate-filled, nonsensical, crazy making comments from a bunch of insane hate-crime blog mongers.

blah

blah

blah; May 23, 2015 at 5:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Speaking of fracking ...

doesn't duke have a nuclear facility of some type on its campus?

And then there is the duke nuclear plant on Jordon Lake.

Both of these nuclear sites sit upon the ancient fault line that duke supporters are championing to be fracked to pieces ... how smart is that?

???

It is like they want to destroy NC - themselves included.

Why would they want to do that?

Like the coal ash ponds overflowing - they wait until they cause environmental disasters so that they can then turn around and charge the cusomers billions of dollars to fix the problem that they themselves created ... billions.

... that's what sucks about duke and fracking ... and their involvment in politics, the environment, and NC.

Duke is destructive and lives up to its mascot of an evil devil in very real ways.

... and does it so openly and blantantly ... but either gets all in a tiff if anyone points out the obvious issues of safety to the public and the environment ... or simply ignores all complaints ... and pours more money into whatever manipulative device or scheme they are using at any one given moment to continue to achieve their evil goals.; May 23, 2015 at 5:03 AM
Anonymous said...: and

instead of fixing that fracked up attitude that duke people have like you would think that a professional organization would do who strive to be leaders in the medical field

no

they continue to push and enable and provide fertile breeding ground for such outright hatred, animosity, and trolling, and bullying, and harrassing ...................... and killing ...... and raping ......and killing ..... and bullying ..... and trolling and ..... killing ....

and

they suck

and so do ya'll who keep doing all that - and enabling with your conflicted of interest support (or lack thereof when needed to stand against that stuff)

wouldn't you say - if you had to keep watching and being subjected to all that AND STILL HAVE TO TRUST THEM FOR LIFE SAVING MEDICAL SERVICES?

get real
i will not ignore what just happened here as far as my opinion of duke is concerned either - so thanks for that; May 23, 2015 at 5:07 AM
Anonymous said...: the alledged docs can have and share their opinions all they want to - they just can't repeatedly keep bullying and trolling me without my responding back and proving them alledged only docs if that person wants to keep bugging everyone with his alledged bs and accusing me of fabricating everytime i or any one else says basically anything that questions dukes greatness - if i want ... hey

it is so fracking sickening to watch you people by the way and know that lives are actually at stake in these games

seriously

you people are DUKE TROLLS

you make duke look so bad you need no help from me that you suppose i give by my commenting on why i do not like duke i assure you; May 23, 2015 at 5:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Anybody who knows how old and deteriorated Durham's downtown buildings are could quickly realize that a destructive earthquake in Durham would cause quite a bit of damage (er: clearing the way for a new Durham).

If Duke wanted the fracking stopped for safety and health reasons, the fight their resources could wage over fracking would benefit the health and welfare of the entire world.

Fracking up the world is obviously not an idea that helps humanity nor the earth.; May 23, 2015 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: What the frack G there you go again with your trolling

Blah blah blah; May 23, 2015 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Lock up your valuables. Tinfoil is rampaging.; May 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Take it easy on Tinfoil. He is just anxious for a new shlog. We all are. Emotions always run high and tempers get short while we are waiting for Sid to pinch one off.; May 23, 2015 at 10:40 AM
Anonymous said...: seriously

get fracking real

you are probably the troll who posted that post to look like someone else just so you could then troll it too

and if you are not - (which you are since you do just that continuously on this blog) ... now ya know

blah

p.s. duke sucks nomatter - it's their image - duke - the land of 'duke's evil a... suck - and always will' ville

blah; May 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Intern said...
"According to notes of Officer Marianne Bond on her April 12, 2011 report, Hanes told her that she heard Mangum yell "I'm going to f___ you up." "

If Ms. Haynes lied when she made this statement to Officer Bonds, that is not perjury.

" Aykia Hanes lied to the court when she said she heard Daye yell "get the hell out" and "leave me alone.""

What is your proof that she lied? Were you present when the events occurred? Do you have some other reliable source that will confirm that Mr. Daye did not at any time yell these (or similar) comments?

I agree with you that Officer Bond is not giving perjured testimony when she quotes or reports falsities she was told by Hanes. However, Coggins-Franks was unable to get Hanes to say "I heard Mangum say 'I'm going to f___ you up.'" When Coggins-Franks kept asking Hanes did she hear Mangum say anything Hanes repeatedly stated "No."

The proof I have that Aykia Hanes lied in court is that when asked "What separates your apartment from Daye's?" she answered, "A wall." That is a lie. Aykia Hanes' apartment was directly across and facing Daye's apartment. According to diagrams of the apartment building and photographs of the doors from prosecution discovery Daye's apartment N was separated by a breezeway that was at least ten feet away from Hanes' apartment P. These are facts you'll also find in the April 12th police report of Bond. Not only that, but the bedrooms instead of being adjacent to one another separated by a common wall were at opposite sides of the apartment building... being farthest situated from the front door. The fact that they were on opposite sides of the apartment building is verified by Hanes' comment under oath that her bedroom patio (balcony) faced the parking lot. That is true. Daye/Mangum's balcony off the bedroom faced the woods.

Is it possible to hear conversations from one bedroom on one side of the building to that on the others side of the building? Also Hanes said the thumping and bumping against the wall knocked a mirror off the wall and set off an alarm. It is impossible that any activity against walls in apartment N would be transferred to apartment P.

Now, that said, Crystal told me that she told Meier that Hanes didn't live next to her but across from her. Meier however did not use that information to impeach Hanes' testimony. Meier should have known the arrangement of the apartments regardless... as should Officer Bond and Prosecutor Coggins-Franks. I believe they (Bond, Coggins-Franks, and Meier) all knew the relationship of the apartments with one another, that they all knew that Hanes' testimony was perjured, and that they all conspired to keep it from the jury to enable Mangum to be convicted.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; May 23, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
So - Sid admits Meier objected to the statements, but it's still Meier's fault. Oh, and the only evidence they are false is Crystal says the statements didn't happen, so Haynes must be committing perjury when she says they did.

You got a copy of that dismissal letter from the Bar Sid? Start proving your allegations. Earlier you said she had filed against Peterson, but weren't sure about Meier, now you are changing your story. Start proving it.

As a matter of fact, I just received a call from Crystal. She told me that she received a letter from the State Bar saying that it was reviewing her complaint against Petersen but have not reached a final decision. With regards to Meier, the Bar has already written Mangum to tell her that they dismissed her complaint against him. I have a copy of that letter. Had planned on putting it in my sharlog, but until I get my Flash program to work properly I won't have it available for viewing. Please be patient. As soon as I send off my stuff for the Supreme Court, I'll concentrate on getting my sharlogs and Flash working.; May 23, 2015 at 12:25 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Is there already a copy of your lawsuit that you are preparing a brief for the US Supreme Court on this blog?

What exactly is your lawsuit about again? It has been awhile since you discussed it in any detail.

Please let us know what exactly is happening with Ms. Mangum's complaints to the State Bar if she agrees to share that information here. Thank you.

Hey, Anon.

My lawsuit against Duke University stems from a discrimination complaint against the school in which it used information I provided (in a complimentary letter about my intent to attend a campus interview open to the public) to ambush me and put me in jail. I escaped barely because I hailed law professor James Coleman who interceded on my behalf. I audio recorded my conversation with the security guard. Most of the information about the incident is on the blog site (although a mix-up resulted in the deletion of many of the buttons about my lawsuit.) Visit the website and look under investigation to find information about my lawsuit.

Regarding the State Bar complaints, the one against Meier was dismissed. The complaint against Petersen is currently under review by the Bar.; May 23, 2015 at 12:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Why don't you just put the information into a written presentation instead of wasting so much time with flash? Why don't you post the documents contained in the sharlogs in a format that can be printed and read, and that you can share easily with Ms. Mangum? Is there a specific reason why you do not?; May 23, 2015 at 12:36 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

I am confused about what you are doing to assist Ms. Mangum in obtaining her freedom from an unjust incarceration based upon a trial and case clearly riddled with corruption and injustice.

You repeatedly claim on this blog that her freedom will be soon after you discover some new way to show the injustice of the trial/case/charges etc., but none of the sharlogs nor this blog has actually changed the corruption in the system and this case, nor has it secured just representation and defense for Ms. Mangum.

Do you tell Ms. Mangum the same thing is the question? Do you tell her your next blog post or letter will win her case, or do you advice her in how to write her own appeal brief, her own State Bar complaints, prepare for her trial, provide her with a detailed written report about the medical discrepancies instead of in sharlog form which she cannot access, hold in confidence information that might harm Ms. Mangum and her case if shared on this blog for "enlightenment", etc.?

WHAT are you doing?

What I am doing is fighting a lonely war. I have tried to get others involved but no one will give any assistance to help Mangum... despite the fact that her conviction was based on a false autopsy report and perjured testimony from the prosecution's two star witnesses. No one will write a supportive letter, much less call for an investigation. I have contacted everyone I can think of including all NC politicians in the General Assembly and on Capitol Hill, Governors Perdue and McCrory, Legislative Black Caucus, NAACP, ACLU, clergy, Lt. Governor Dan Forest, D.A.s from Orange Durham and Wake Counties, NC Attorney General's Office, US attorneys for the middle and eastern districts, and all media types. Even the Innocence Inquiry Commission passed. Yet, I am still trying to get the truth out as the truth will set Crystal Mangum free.; May 23, 2015 at 12:43 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Why don't you just put the information into a written presentation instead of wasting so much time with flash? Why don't you post the documents contained in the sharlogs in a format that can be printed and read, and that you can share easily with Ms. Mangum? Is there a specific reason why you do not?

Flash is the easiest and best way to make an interactive presentation. Although I could do it by HTML, the problem currently is that I am working hard get my stuff filed with the Supreme Court in a timely manner. After that is done, I'll concentrate on getting the information about the Hanes perjury online... keep in mind that I had been focused on the medical examiner problems and just recently uncovered the blatant perjury by Hanes.; May 23, 2015 at 12:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

How do you expect Ms. Mangum to use the information written in detail in arguments and in your sharlogs if she cannot access the information? How do you expect her to defend herself if you will not provide her with the information in a format she can study and use in her defense?; May 23, 2015 at 12:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

You said earlier that you had a list of nine appeal items that someone unknown to you had left somewhere. Can you share more of that info in your posts, or is that something you have decided not to share at this time? Does Ms. Mangum have a copy of this list?; May 23, 2015 at 12:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Go to the court of appeals website and look at the record on appeal - it lists those 9 issues. Do some work for yourself for once.; May 23, 2015 at 1:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

I am not going to deny that there seems to be reason to question whether you are working on duke's behalf because of the fact that you expect Ms. Mangum to be her own legal council and medical expert when you encourage her to represent herself in court against murder charges and the Duke / Durham /NC injustice system. However, this question becomes even more relevant when you have not provided her with ALL the pertinent information about her case from this blog and the sharlogs and your many correspondences on her behalf in a format she can use to formulate the many briefs, motions, complaints, appeals, etc. that are required of her to write or assist a lawyer in writing on behalf of her defense. I do not mean to be mean when saying that, but you seem unaware of how those two actions you have taken combined could add up to the fact that you too may be 'duke conflicted'. That's why I ask you again why you do not provide the detailed information about her case from this blog with Ms. Mangum herself in written form so she can study and use it on behalf of her defense.; May 23, 2015 at 1:33 PM
Anonymous said...: " Nifong Supporter said...

The proof I have that Aykia Hanes lied in court is that when asked "What separates your apartment from Daye's?" she answered, "A wall." That is a lie. Aykia Hanes' apartment was directly across and facing Daye's apartment."

sid, you are just too incredibly stupid if you believe that constitutes perjury.; May 23, 2015 at 3:08 PM
cyberbully evil duke troll said...: Who's your daddy?; May 23, 2015 at 5:06 PM
cyberbully evil duke troll said...: Where you are Tinfoil?; May 23, 2015 at 5:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Sydney says:

What I am doing is fighting a lonely war. I have tried to get others involved but no one will give any assistance to help Mangum... despite the fact that her conviction was based on a false autopsy report and perjured testimony from the prosecution's two star witnesses. No one will write a supportive letter, much less call for an investigation. I have contacted everyone I can think of including all NC politicians in the General Assembly and on Capitol Hill, Governors Perdue and McCrory, Legislative Black Caucus, NAACP, ACLU, clergy, Lt. Governor Dan Forest, D.A.s from Orange Durham and Wake Counties, NC Attorney General's Office, US attorneys for the middle and eastern districts, and all media types. Even the Innocence Inquiry Commission passed. Yet, I am still trying to get the truth out as the truth will set Crystal Mangum free.

At this point I think you are going to have to write a book on this. You definitely have the writing skills. And you can do all this on Amazon for free:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520

And by selling the book you would be able to donate this money to Magnum to help her and her children. You would be following in the footsteps of KC Johnson, William Cohan, and Mike Pressler. You could add chapters as things progress or just have a follow on book.; May 24, 2015 at 12:34 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "Is it possible to hear conversations from one bedroom on one side of the building to that on the others side of the building?"

My immediate response was "Yes - if those in the 'conversation' were Crystal Mangum and Reginald Daye".

But I think I'll simply say, "I don't know".

And neither do you.; May 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "The proof I have that Aykia Hanes lied in court is that when asked "What separates your apartment from Daye's?" she answered, "A wall." That is a lie. Aykia Hanes' apartment was directly across and facing Daye's apartment. "

That is not a lie -- that is Ms. Hanes explaining in the easiest possible terms what separates the 2 apartments.

She could have said that what separates the apartments is several layers of 5/8″ drywall interspersed with 2x4 wooden studs.; May 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM
Anonymous said...: g ... i've already told you to stop copy and pasting posts that aren't even yours and then sitting there and trolling what you just posted.

seriously

get over yourself

troll doesn't even describe what you do any more g ... since you are seriously evil

DO NOT TROLL ME IN ANY WAY AT ALL AGAIN

thanks; May 25, 2015 at 4:15 AM
Anonymous said...: "Anonymous said...

g ... i've already told you to stop copy and pasting posts that aren't even yours and then sitting there and trolling what you just posted.

seriously

get over yourself

troll doesn't even describe what you do any more g ... since you are seriously evil

DO NOT TROLL ME IN ANY WAY AT ALL AGAIN

thanks

May 25, 2015 at 4:15 AM"

Boy are you decompensated; May 25, 2015 at 5:50 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Why are you so afraid to contact Meier directly? You afraid he will have answers to the questions you ask? You keep ridiculously asking him to respond here - but as has been repeatedly shown, it's so easy to fake identities on this blog, you could never trust it was him.

If you want answers, contact him. If you want to just keep whining and crying like a little baby, just keep posting here.

You are a joke, idiot, whiner, and liar.; May 25, 2015 at 7:30 AM
Anonymous said...: "Anonymous said...

Kenny,

Why are you so afraid to contact Meier directly? You afraid he will have answers to the questions you ask? You keep ridiculously asking him to respond here - but as has been repeatedly shown, it's so easy to fake identities on this blog, you could never trust it was him.

If you want answers, contact him. If you want to just keep whining and crying like a little baby, just keep posting here.

You are a joke, idiot, whiner, and liar.

May 25, 2015 at 7:30 AM"

You insult all the jokers, idiots, whiners and liars in the world when you compare kenny to them.; May 25, 2015 at 7:34 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "If you want answers, contact him. If you want to just keep whining and crying like a little baby, just keep posting here"......Once again I reiterate I know what the answer is. I simply want Meier to admit it to you all. That might, stop the speculation, that is rife here, he did any sort of investigation as to what brought about Daye's death This is key as to whether Welch applies; May 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM
Anonymous said...: "kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "If you want answers, contact him. If you want to just keep whining and crying like a little baby, just keep posting here"......Once again I reiterate I know what the answer is. I simply want Meier to admit it to you all."

Which translates to kenny is as deluded and stupid as ever and is trying to conceal it. He does not want to admit his favorite woman is a murderess.; May 25, 2015 at 10:40 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said onMay 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM

"...I know what the answer is. I simply want Meier to admit it to you all."

Which is really kenny admitting he does not have the nerve to confront Mr. Meier directly, which means kenny really does not have the courage to stand up for his convictions, or the means to do anything about his favorite murderess' conviction.; May 25, 2015 at 10:50 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: Which is really kenny admitting he does not have the nerve to confront Mr. Meier directly, which means kenny really does not have the courage to stand up for his convictions, or the means to do anything about his favorite murderess' conviction"...... This is the spin you are trying to put on it but objective observers are not buying it. It should be painfully obvious that Meier did not spend the time or effort investigating what needed to be discovered for Crystal to receive justice by being acquitted.; May 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Why don't you provide a detailedexplanation. Your general overview has not been persuasive. I suggest that you pretend that you are Crystal's attorney and we are the jury. Show specific evidence and make specific detailed arguments. Try to convince someone.; May 25, 2015 at 1:16 PM
Anonymous said...: No, asshole, it is not painfully obvious. You make general criticisms, but never follow through with detailed and specific arguments. You have convinced no one that Meier did not spend the time investigating.

One hint: most readers do not find unseen evidence particularly convincing.; May 25, 2015 at 1:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Do you agree with Sidney that 68 days is a little over a week?; May 25, 2015 at 1:21 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " You have convinced no one that Meier did not spend the time investigating............. None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see. Matthew Henry; May 25, 2015 at 1:34 PM
Anonymous said...: No, Kenny, you simply aren't very convincing. You don't really even try to provide support for your arguments.; May 25, 2015 at 1:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Nobody on this blog would be qualified for a jury selection in this case. A few might qualify for judges, but they would have thrown the evil duke troll gang out of the court room by now. There, the pretend trial is over and everybody loses as usual.; May 25, 2015 at 2:22 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
We all know you can cut and paste. Now try using some real, logical, arguments.; May 25, 2015 at 3:50 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal...

"This is the spin you are trying to put on it but objective observers are not buying it."

You are so incredibly stupid and biased you do not know what objective really means.; May 25, 2015 at 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: "kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: " You have convinced no one that Meier did not spend the time investigating............. None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see. Matthew Henry

May 25, 2015 at 1:34 PM"

None so incredibly stupid as kenny.; May 25, 2015 at 4:45 PM
Anonymous said...: ken-ny, ken-ny, ken-ny

ken-ny, ken-ny, ken-ny

ken-ny, ken-ny, ken-ny

ken-ny, ken-ny, ken-ny

ken-ny, ken-ny, ken-ny

ken-ny, ken-ny, ken-ny; May 25, 2015 at 7:20 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny cut and pasted:

"None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see."

kenny, did you not hear about Mangum's trial? Can you not see that she is in prison for murdering Mr. Daye?; May 25, 2015 at 8:14 PM
Anonymous said...: You really don't listen whining Kenny.

Dr. Roberts was an investigation, you've already made it clear no one can tell you anything new - you know all the answers and anyone who disagrees or tells you otherwise is a liar - it's obvious where Crystal gets her delusions from - she must be good for you to have such blind loyalty to her.

Again, nothing that happened after the stabbing would lead to an acquittal - the stabbing had to be justified - self-defense - and while you insist the jury got it wrong, you've admitted that was litigated.

You are still a whiny pathetic liar.; May 26, 2015 at 4:39 AM
Anonymous said...: May 26, 2015 at 4:39 AM:

You are still a whiny pathetic liar.; May 26, 2015 at 4:59 AM
Anonymous said...: "Nifong Supporter said...

Lance the Intern said...
"You act as though hospitals are widely accepted to be vast killing ground..."

Sid -- as a (former) ER physician, I'm surprised you would make a statement like this.

The Journal of Patient Safety reported in 2013 that over a thousand people a day are dying"[emphasis mine] from medical errors.
That's more than from auto accidents and workplace accidents combined.

Hey, Lance.

The article you referenced stated that people are dying due to medical errors... Not that they were dying due to care received in hospitals.

Find a source that is relevant and deals with in-patient hospital deaths."

sidney again shows he is incredibly stupid.; May 26, 2015 at 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...: "Lance the Intern said...
'You act as though hospitals are widely accepted to be vast killing ground...'

Sid -- as a (former) ER physician, I'm surprised you would make a statement like this."

As has been pointed out in this blog, sid completed an internship, never completed any residency, never was certified in any medical specialty, retired from medicine less than 20 years after his graduation and, according to the well referenced article in the Independent Weekly, left behind the state in which he had attempted to practice medicine bankrupt after having filed a string of frivolous lawsuits.

That establishes him as not much of a physician.; May 26, 2015 at 6:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Let us also remember, incredibly stupid kenny often refers to sid as a distinguished former physician.

Well maybe he is. But what distinguishes him is the kind of thing that distinguished josef mengele as a physician, not what distinguished someone like Albert Schweizer.; May 26, 2015 at 6:41 AM
Anonymous said...: I meant Albert Schweitzer.; May 26, 2015 at 6:43 AM
Anonymous said...: And you, (person who has been trolling non-stop for past few days - not to mention the many years before that), troll beyond belief.

Like, why do you post kenny kenny kenny posts? You seem to really despise him, but yet you whine like that for him. What's up with that?

???; May 26, 2015 at 8:04 AM
Anonymous said...: "Anonymous said...

And you, (person who has been trolling non-stop for past few days - not to mention the many years before that), troll beyond belief.

Like, why do you post kenny kenny kenny posts? You seem to really despise him, but yet you whine like that for him. What's up with that?

???

May 26, 2015 at 8:04 AM"

Boy are you stressed.; May 26, 2015 at 8:06 AM
Anonymous said...: You whine like that because you think someone is stressed? So, are you stressed?

???; May 26, 2015 at 9:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous 9:02:

You are clearly a cleverer troll than 8:06. 8:06 responds with infantile attacks (you are stressed or stupid), when it is clear that you are simply trying to provoke a response. You take his silly responses and repeat them with him as the new target.

Well done. You are a world class troll.; May 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM
Anonymous said...: provoke a response?

seriously?

perhaps i'm not a troll at all. perhaps i'm trying to get the evil duke troll to actually stop and think about what it's doing for a change. it's like watching barney non-stop (taken as ref. from an article i read where a kid who couldn't move was placed in front of a t.v. with barney showing non-stop. he says - yes he was still in his body totally aware of bs going on around him including his mom saying she wished he would die - he understood what his mom said more than being forced to watch barney non-stop). poor kid - although he's not a kid anymore; May 26, 2015 at 10:01 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said "
you know all the answers and anyone who disagrees or tells you otherwise is a liar ".............................Absolutely unbelievable. Talk about projection. On this thread alone I've been called a liar scores of times, including by you, not to mention in dozens of previous threads going back for months. Never have I called another poster a liar. Your intemperance is only making you look, weak, desperate and foolish; May 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

You said earlier that you had a list of nine appeal items that someone unknown to you had left somewhere. Can you share more of that info in your posts, or is that something you have decided not to share at this time? Does Ms. Mangum have a copy of this list?

Yes, Mangum has a copy of the list... I mailed it to her weeks ago. I had intended on placing it on my latest sharlog, but had problems with Flash. Now I must give attention to my lawsuit against Duke.

So once I have the documents sent out to the Supreme Court I will get back to concentrating on Mangum's case and I will certainly provide the list of nine items for appeal... none of which I might add included ineffective counsel. Of the nine, Petersen used probably the weakest to present on appeal. As of my visit last week, Petersen still had not given Mangum a copy of the MAR she filed with the Durham Superior Court which was denied by Judge Hudson.; May 26, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
" Nifong Supporter said...

The proof I have that Aykia Hanes lied in court is that when asked "What separates your apartment from Daye's?" she answered, "A wall." That is a lie. Aykia Hanes' apartment was directly across and facing Daye's apartment."

sid, you are just too incredibly stupid if you believe that constitutes perjury.

Anonymous, the facts are these:
Aykia Hanes stated under oath that she lived next door to Daye/Mangum with their apartments sharing a common wall... the layout being similar with bedrooms next to one another.
Aykia Hanes' apartment was directly opposite Daye/Mangum's with their front doors being separated by a breezeway at least ten feet in distance... Their bedrooms being on opposite sides of the building (Hanes testified that her bedroom balcony faced the parking lot, and Mangum told me that her bedroom balcony faced the woods. This is supported by diagrams of the complex and the Marianne Bond report of April 12, 2011.)

Giving purposely false testimony under oath is perjury to my knowledge... even though I lack legal training and am not an attorney.; May 26, 2015 at 1:04 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sydney says:

What I am doing is fighting a lonely war. I have tried to get others involved but no one will give any assistance to help Mangum... despite the fact that her conviction was based on a false autopsy report and perjured testimony from the prosecution's two star witnesses. No one will write a supportive letter, much less call for an investigation. I have contacted everyone I can think of including all NC politicians in the General Assembly and on Capitol Hill, Governors Perdue and McCrory, Legislative Black Caucus, NAACP, ACLU, clergy, Lt. Governor Dan Forest, D.A.s from Orange Durham and Wake Counties, NC Attorney General's Office, US attorneys for the middle and eastern districts, and all media types. Even the Innocence Inquiry Commission passed. Yet, I am still trying to get the truth out as the truth will set Crystal Mangum free.

At this point I think you are going to have to write a book on this. You definitely have the writing skills. And you can do all this on Amazon for free:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/seller-account/mm-summary-page.html?topic=200260520

And by selling the book you would be able to donate this money to Magnum to help her and her children. You would be following in the footsteps of KC Johnson, William Cohan, and Mike Pressler. You could add chapters as things progress or just have a follow on book.

Thanks for the suggestion. Very interesting. However, I am focused on extracting Crystal from the jaws of a corrupted system of so-called justice. I did consider documenting Mangum's travails on a Super-Duper Cooper comic strip format, but I haven't worked on that for some time. First priority is getting her free and back with her children.; May 26, 2015 at 1:09 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

I am not going to deny that there seems to be reason to question whether you are working on duke's behalf because of the fact that you expect Ms. Mangum to be her own legal council and medical expert when you encourage her to represent herself in court against murder charges and the Duke / Durham /NC injustice system. However, this question becomes even more relevant when you have not provided her with ALL the pertinent information about her case from this blog and the sharlogs and your many correspondences on her behalf in a format she can use to formulate the many briefs, motions, complaints, appeals, etc. that are required of her to write or assist a lawyer in writing on behalf of her defense. I do not mean to be mean when saying that, but you seem unaware of how those two actions you have taken combined could add up to the fact that you too may be 'duke conflicted'. That's why I ask you again why you do not provide the detailed information about her case from this blog with Ms. Mangum herself in written form so she can study and use it on behalf of her defense.

I visit with Ms. Mangum once weekly for a couple of hours and the majority of the time is spent discussing her case. I write her frequently and receive calls from her occasionally too. She is intelligent and is aware of the many flaws in the prosecution against her... and much of what she said is enlightening to me, as well. For example she stated that she told Meier that Hanes live in the apartment across from her, yet Meier did nothing to impeach her testimony... which only solidifies my repeated allegation that Meier was a turncoat who sold out his client. I always felt that Mangum would have fared better had she represented herself in court.; May 26, 2015 at 1:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Who wrote the MAR, Ms. Peterson or Ms. Mangum?

Ms. Mangum may be able to better represent herself in court now that she has more experience with the case and the system she is working within. Surely you have provided her with a written detailed report of all the medical issues that you have shared on this blog by now. That seems like a logical thing for you to do given the amount of time you have spent on the subject and the importance to the case that the information holds and the complexity of the detailed information that is of importance.

Ms. Mangum should fight for her right to receive legal council free from conflict, bias, or ineffective council as that is what she, or anyone in her position, needs and is granted as right as a citizen of USA irregardless of the Duke / Durham injustice system

Good luck on your case against Duke. I hope you and Ms. Mangum are doing well.; May 26, 2015 at 1:57 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Let us also remember, incredibly stupid kenny often refers to sid as a distinguished former physician.
Well maybe he is. But what distinguishes him is the kind of thing that distinguished josef mengele as a physician, not what distinguished someone like Albert Schweizer"............. Like Dr. Albert Schweitzer Dr. Harr is dedicated to help the vulnerable and the disadvantaged. In contrast Dr. Josef Mengele exploited and made use of vulnerable people. Mengele-like mentality is sometimes observed in those dedicated to destroying Crystal Mangum; May 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:02:

You are clearly a cleverer troll than 8:06. 8:06 responds with infantile attacks (you are stressed or stupid), when it is clear that you are simply trying to provoke a response. You take his silly responses and repeat them with him as the new target.

Well done. You are a world class troll.

May 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM"

Bth of you are seriously stressed.; May 26, 2015 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous said...

provoke a response?

seriously?

perhaps i'm not a troll at all. perhaps i'm trying to get the evil duke troll to actually stop and think about what it's doing for a change. it's like watching barney non-stop (taken as ref. from an article i read where a kid who couldn't move was placed in front of a t.v. with barney showing non-stop. he says - yes he was still in his body totally aware of bs going on around him including his mom saying she wished he would die - he understood what his mom said more than being forced to watch barney non-stop). poor kid - although he's not a kid anymore

May 26, 2015 at 10:01 AM"

You are seriously stressed.; May 26, 2015 at 2:06 PM
Anonymous said...: " kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said "
you know all the answers and anyone who disagrees or tells you otherwise is a liar ".............................Absolutely unbelievable. Talk about projection. On this thread alone I've been called a liar scores of times, including by you, not to mention in dozens of previous threads going back for months. Never have I called another poster a liar. Your intemperance is only making you look, weak, desperate and foolish

May 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM"

kenny is again manifesting incredible stupidity, which in certain ways is worse than being a liar.

I guess that deluding yourself that a lie is not a lie(I.E. the lie that crystal was raoped at the Lacrosse party) is not really lying But it is incredibly stupid.; May 26, 2015 at 2:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"So once I have the documents sent out to the Supreme Court I will get back to concentrating on Mangum's case..."

And as the Supreme Court will expeditiously decide against sid, very soon he will be working on his frivolous lawsuit again and forgetting again about crystal.; May 26, 2015 at 2:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Giving purposely false testimony under oath is perjury to my knowledge... even though I lack legal training and am not an attorney."

However, not being capable of telling when someone is deliberately perjuring him or herself and then declaring the individual guilty of perjury IS a sign of incredible stupidity.

P.S.

You also have almost no training as a physician.; May 26, 2015 at 2:18 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 1:57 Thanks for you concern for the plight of Crystal. Ideally Crystal needs a Lawyer who will take on her case and devote the time and resources required as well as be willing to use Dr. Harr, who knows all the ins and outs of this case, as a consultant. Those, in the Law Profession, appointed to represent the indigent, are ethically bound to provide the kind of defence required to adequately defend their client. Unfortunately this ideal is hardly ever adhered to especially when that client is poor and marginalized. It's no wonder so many generally question the ethics of Lawyers. For most, doing Court appointed work is considered a necessary evil and one that too many give minimum time and effort to; May 26, 2015 at 2:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Thanks for the suggestion. Very interesting. However, I am focused on extracting Crystal from the jaws of a corrupted system of so-called justice."

However as you have never demonstrated the system is corrupt(one reason you believe it is corrupt is that it has found against you in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke), it is obvious you are deluded and incredibly stupid.; May 26, 2015 at 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"@ Anonymous 1:57 Thanks for you concern for the plight of Crystal. Ideally Crystal needs a Lawyer who will take on her case and devote the time and resources required as well as be willing to use Dr. Harr, who knows all the ins and outs of this case, as a consultant."

If you think incredibly stupid sid can help your favorite murderess get a pass for her crime, you again manifest your own incredible stupidity.; May 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Like Dr. Albert Schweitzer Dr. Harr is dedicated to help the vulnerable and the disadvantaged."

You again manifest how incredibly stupid you are.

"In contrast Dr. Josef Mengele exploited and made use of vulnerable people. Mengele-like mentality is sometimes observed in those dedicated to destroying Crystal Mangum"

As crystal has been trying herself to destroy herself, you are admitting she is self destructive.

Consider that a bit of advice to wean you away from your incredible stupidity.; May 26, 2015 at 2:28 PM
Anonymous said...: That might be true (and definetely is in the Duke / Durham courthouse as is apparent by this case), but it is still a legal right of all USA citizens and therefore one which can be legally expected. If one case can effect all citizen safety in a state because the killers have access to kill anyone who receives their services without taking responsibility nor accountability for it, and if they do die, the medical examiners system cannot provide reasonable, unbiased nor conflicted and unprofessional services because of that same 'killers' undue influence in the state and threat to all - then that case should definitely be given priority to make sure it is litigated without all the bs you find in this case. There really is no excuse for what is seen in these cases, yet, that is all that is seen. Ms. Mangum has found herself in quite a position of responsibility herself then - to herself, her family and to all citizens of the state to insure that the true 'killers' are identified and held accountable. She NEEDS her rights to be upheld - for the benefit and safety of all.; May 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM
Anonymous said...: "Anonymous said...

That might be true (and definetely is in the Duke / Durham courthouse as is apparent by this case), but it is still a legal right of all USA citizens and therefore one which can be legally expected. If one case can effect all citizen safety in a state because the killers have access to kill anyone who receives their services without taking responsibility nor accountability for it, and if they do die, the medical examiners system cannot provide reasonable, unbiased nor conflicted and unprofessional services because of that same 'killers' undue influence in the state and threat to all - then that case should definitely be given priority to make sure it is litigated without all the bs you find in this case. There really is no excuse for what is seen in these cases, yet, that is all that is seen. Ms. Mangum has found herself in quite a position of responsibility herself then - to herself, her family and to all citizens of the state to insure that the true 'killers' are identified and held accountable. She NEEDS her rights to be upheld - for the benefit and safety of all.

May 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM"

You have joined the ranks of the icredibly stupid.; May 26, 2015 at 2:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

It is understandable that you would want to be called upon to be a consultant in this case since you are so well versed in the details of the case, but then again, it is also understandable that you share the information you provide on this blog to all to Ms. Mangum in a written format that she can study and use in assistance of her defense as well since she cannot access the information on this blog. Do you agree?; May 26, 2015 at 3:16 PM
Anonymous said...: "Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

It is understandable that you would want to be called upon to be a consultant in this case since you are so well versed in the details of the case, but then again, it is also understandable that you share the information you provide on this blog to all to Ms. Mangum in a written format that she can study and use in assistance of her defense as well since she cannot access the information on this blog. Do you agree?

May 26, 2015 at 3:16 PM"

Yes, sid, do that and reveal to the world how incredibly stupid you really are; May 26, 2015 at 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Why would that be stupid evil duke troll?; May 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM
cyberbully evil duke troll said...: Hey Tinfoil, who's your daddy?; May 26, 2015 at 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey cyberbullying evil duke troll did you ask your dad what he thinks about you asking that yet? What he say?; May 26, 2015 at 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would that be stupid evil duke troll?

May 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM
Anonymous cyberbully evil duke troll said...

Hey Tinfoil, who's your daddy?

May 26, 2015 at 4:53 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey cyberbullying evil duke troll did you ask your dad what he thinks about you asking that yet? What he say?

May 26, 2015 at 5:18 PM"

Boy are you really stressed.; May 26, 2015 at 5:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Nobody failed Crystal Mangum.She was born retarded.; May 27, 2015 at 1:10 AM
Anonymous said...: People like you 1:10 am are what help make others think Duke has become the biggest joke in this state. They do not fix their issues of the lowest town gown relations in the nation. They celebrate, perpetuate, and encourage the fact. Obviously, they want to be known as unaccountable killers, rapist, child molesters, liars, racist, thugs, mindless corrupted corruptors, and destroyers of the USA medical system in the name of greed, prestige, revenge, power, and hatred - and they lord it over the populace in hopes of ruling by fear and threats and a general disdain for the law and for justice and their concern for the welfare of only a few select 1%ers. The 2015 commencement speech was not a fluke - it depicted accurately what Duke is and has become - a bad tasteless irrevelant joke - where no-one is laughing and everyone is forced to cringe and endure in the rain while their multi-million dollar monoliths of over celebrated buildings sit idle and empty.; May 27, 2015 at 5:16 AM
Lance the Intern said...: I thought Trinity College in Hartford, CT had the lowest town-gown relations in the nation?; May 27, 2015 at 7:51 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Who wrote the MAR, Ms. Peterson or Ms. Mangum?

Ms. Mangum may be able to better represent herself in court now that she has more experience with the case and the system she is working within. Surely you have provided her with a written detailed report of all the medical issues that you have shared on this blog by now. That seems like a logical thing for you to do given the amount of time you have spent on the subject and the importance to the case that the information holds and the complexity of the detailed information that is of importance.

Ms. Mangum should fight for her right to receive legal council free from conflict, bias, or ineffective council as that is what she, or anyone in her position, needs and is granted as right as a citizen of USA irregardless of the Duke / Durham injustice system

Good luck on your case against Duke. I hope you and Ms. Mangum are doing well.

Thank you for your kind words and good wishes. I am in the process of sending my petition for writ of certiorari... hope to send it off by Friday, then will concentrate on getting my Flash software working and producing sharlog with important documentation about Aykia Hanes and her perjury.

As far as the MAR goes, Mangum found out that one was filed by Ms. Petersen when she received notice that Judge Orlando Hudson had denied it. Evidently the MAR by Petersen was filed around February 23, 2015 and denied in early March, as I recollect. Mangum has been trying to obtain a copy of the MAR that was filed, but Petersen has not returned her correspondence on the matter.

Regarding the problems with the prosecution against Mangum, I feel that the perjury by Aykia Hanes is almost as serious as that by Dr. Nichols. I will work as hard as possible to get that information on this blog site as soon as possible. A real eye-opener.; May 27, 2015 at 12:17 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: kenhyderal said...
Anonymous said: "Let us also remember, incredibly stupid kenny often refers to sid as a distinguished former physician.
Well maybe he is. But what distinguishes him is the kind of thing that distinguished josef mengele as a physician, not what distinguished someone like Albert Schweizer"............. Like Dr. Albert Schweitzer Dr. Harr is dedicated to help the vulnerable and the disadvantaged. In contrast Dr. Josef Mengele exploited and made use of vulnerable people. Mengele-like mentality is sometimes observed in those dedicated to destroying Crystal Mangum

Hey, kenhyderal.

Thanks...I love the comparison. Dr. Schweitze was a hero of my father. He was quite a man and especially respectful of all human life. You are correct that I direct my efforts to help those such as Mangum and Nifong who are victims of demonization by the media and are individuals who lack support by others. A very tough battle in their defense.; May 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, LISTEN UP, EVERYBODY... A NOTICE OF CLARIFICATION!!

Several hours ago I completed a visit with Crystal in which she clarified a misunderstanding I had earlier. I was under the impression that she had told her attorney Meier during Aykia Hanes' testimony that Hanes was lying when she said she lived next door to her. Mangum corrected me by stating that she had told Meier that the prosecution witness Officer Bond was repeating a lie by Aykia Hanes who stated she heard Mangum say "I'm going to f____ you up." Mangum merely told Meier that such a statement never took place. Regardless, Meier should have been able to realize that Mangum and Hanes' apartments were located directly opposite one another and not adjacent as Ms. Hanes testified under oath. A serious attorney representing Mangum in good faith would have realized the problem with the apartment layout and used such information to impeach the entirety of the Hanes testimony.

Ergo, my prior assessment of Meier is not as damning as it was previously. Most likely he just didn't know where Hanes lived in relation to Daye/Mangum because he didn't bother to study the case with any degree of competence.; May 27, 2015 at 12:37 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "Thanks...I love the comparison. Dr. Schweitze[sic] was a hero of my father. He was quite a man and especially respectful of all human life."

Read Chinua Achebe's criticism of Schweitzer, as well as the reports from British journalist James Cameron, American journalist John Gunther and french physician Andre Audoynaud.

Schweitzer was just a little bit incredibly racist.; May 27, 2015 at 1:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Mangum did not have a lease to an apartment at Country Scene apartments. Ergo she did not have an apartment opposite OR adjacent to Ms. Hanes.

Ergo, you are lying.; May 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM
Anonymous said...: So, Crystal claims to know that Kia Haynes doesn't live next door to her but doesn't think to tell anyone? And on the stand when asked if Kia Haynes shares a wall says yes, I guess that's another lie Meier told her to tell?; May 27, 2015 at 2:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Regarding the problems with the prosecution against Mangum, I feel that the perjury by Aykia Hanes is almost as serious as that by Dr. Nichols. I will work as hard as possible to get that information on this blog site as soon as possible. A real eye-opener."

Again sid manifests his incredible stupidity.; May 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Thanks...I love the comparison. Dr. Schweitze(sic) was a hero of my father. He was quite a man and especially respectful of all human life. You are correct that I direct my efforts to help those such as Mangum and Nifong who are victims of demonization by the media and are individuals who lack support by others. A very tough battle in their defense."

Again sid shows his persistent incredible stupidity. He really thinks crystal and nifong have been demonized.

If sid were not so stupid he would have noticed that crystal and nifong grew their own horns and pointy tails.; May 27, 2015 at 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"...my prior assessment of Meier is not as damning as it was previously. Most likely he just didn't know where Hanes lived in relation to Daye/Mangum because he didn't bother to study the case with any degree of competence."

Incredibly stupid sid assumes a fact not in evidence, that his assassment of Daniel Meier was damning.; May 27, 2015 at 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...: It is funny to see how often Sid changes his theories to suit his current argument. Shows he has nothing behind them. Used to be that Kia Haynes was cited by Sid as proof of prior abuse and a key witness for Mangum (but that Meier told Mangum to lie about - the prior abuse). Now Sid is claiming no prior abuse, and Haynes is a liar.

Of course Mangum told Meier she never said what Kia claimed to hear, and Meier got Crystal to say that on the stand. Thing is - as has been noted a none if that matters. The issue is not what let up to it - but what happened after Daye kicked in the door and drug Crystal out by her hair.

Sid, why was the door to the hallway the one busted out if Crystal was drug into the bedroom? And why was the larger pool of blood in the hallway? Shouldn't there be blood where Daye was stabbed? There was a lot in the hallway, none in the bedroom. What's your answer for that?; May 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Duke is one of the best universities in the country.Too bad it is located in Durham.It's similar to Yale in New Haven or Johns Hopkins in Baltimore.Those were nice places too when a different group of people lived there(whites).; May 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM
cyberbully evil duke troll said...: Who's your daddy?; May 27, 2015 at 6:37 PM
kenhyderal said...: Lance said: `Schweitzer was just a little bit incredibly racist.....................`` No he was not. The oft-quoted racist passage, supposedly, from Dr. Schweitzer's African Notebook has pretty much been debunked. Schweitzer's African Notebook was written in German and no such passage exists. By the way, the good Dr. Harr has also been ridiculously and dishonestly charged with being a racist.; May 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "No he was not. The oft-quoted racist passage, supposedly, from Dr. Schweitzer's African Notebook..."

Kenny -- I'll forgive your ignorance this time. The comments from Achebe, Cameron, Gunther and Audoynaud were from situations they had experienced themselves, not simply a quote from Schweitzer.

See Achebe's Words of Wisdom, Gunther's Inside Africa, Cameron's Point of Departure and Audoynaud's Le Docteur Schweitzer et son Hopital a Lambarene.; May 28, 2015 at 6:39 AM
Anonymous said...: So, what's the over/under on how many times Sid uses the phrase "Nifongian Courage" in his Supreme Court filing, and how many times he complains about the law library?; May 28, 2015 at 7:55 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Lance: Lance here is an interesting discussion on this issue at Snopes http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=24708; May 28, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous cyberbully evil duke troll said...

Who's your daddy?

May 27, 2015 at 6:37 PM"

Every day you get more and more stressed. Soon you will implode.; May 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"By the way, the good Dr. Harr has also been ridiculously and dishonestly charged with being a racist."

By the way, there is no such person as the good "Dr. Harr". There is only incredibly stupid, staunchly racist sid.

Accompanyig sid is incredibly stupi kenny.; May 28, 2015 at 10:14 AM
kenhyderal said...: Ignorant, incredibly stupid, racist; don't you Duke Lacrosse apologists and Crystal Mangum haters ever get embarrassed by your childish name calling; May 28, 2015 at 10:31 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Who needs to apologize for the Duke lacrosse players? They have been vindicated and compensated.

I don't think anyone hates Mangum (except, maybe her victims). Personally speaking, I pity her. By all indications she has extensive mental health problems. She is in prison for a very long time. She will not be able to see her children grow up. Very few women turn to stripping and prostitution because that is what they want to do. They do it because they feel hopeless. By all accounts, prostitution and stripping take an enormous toll on a person'sphysical, mental and emotional health.

When Mangum finally gets out of prison, she will be in her 50's, with no skills, no savings and no assets. She will be virtually unemployable. Her kids will be grown and probably somewhat distant from her. Sid will be dead or too old to do anything for her and you and tinfoil will be no where near her. She will be completely and utterly alone. No matter where she goes, she will be known as the crazy woman who lied about being raped and who murdered a man. No matter where she moves, most in the community will shun her.

Mangum is responsible for what has become of her life and she deserves much of what has happened to her. Still, it si hard for most of us to look at a human life ruined - and a mentally ill person who will live the remainder of their life alone and in destitution - and not feel some compassion.

Hate Mangum? No. If anything we pity her. What we hate is the way she is being manipulated by Sid and people like you for self-aggrandizement and to advance an harmful and hateful agenda.; May 28, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Anonymous said...: I forgot to sign my name to the above post.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM
Lance the Intern said...: Kenny -- While the Snopes discussion does address a specific comment by Chinua Achebe (cited from a Wikipedia entry of all things -- how....trustworthy).

This discussion does not address the work of Achebe I documented here, nor does it discuss the works of the other authors.

In short, your research is poor at best. Try again.; May 28, 2015 at 11:31 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Abe -- There are employers still willing to hire felons. Will they still be here in 12 years? I can't say.

Kenny / Sid -- Feel free to pass this on to CGM:

https://exoffenders.net/employment-jobs-for-felons/; May 28, 2015 at 11:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Being an ex-con is only one impediment for Mangum.

She also has a history of mental illness.

She has a history of violence.

She has a history of lying and making false claims.

She is notorious.

She has no meaningful skills or work experience outside of the sex trade.

She will also be in her 50's when she is released. I know it's illegal to discriminate based on age, but how many employers are looking for 50+ year old entry level workers?

As an employer I would never hire anyone with as many strikes against them as Mangum has to work for me. I don't know of anyone who would.

When she is released from prison she will shlog thru the rest of her life on disability, welfare and whatever other forms of assistance she can get. That's not a good way to grow old.

Mangum's actions and decisions have effectively ruined any chance she has for a happy and meaningful life. She will pay for what she has done with every breath she draws until she ceases breathing. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to summon the energy required to hate her. There is nothing anyone can do to her that is worse than what she (with some help and assistance) has done to herself.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM
guiowen said...: Abe,
What is really unfortunate is that, in 2010, the "Justice4Mangum" team told her, in effect, not to worry about what she had done: "It doesn't matter if you attack your boyfriend; we can persuade him not to press charges against you, and take the blame for the altercation." Unfortunately, the next time she did this, she actually killed the poor guy. There's no way she could get him to take the blame, then.
Perhaps is people had explained to her, in 2010, that she was acting poorly, she might have behaved better in 2011. Unfortunately people like Kenhyderal just kept on telling her how wonderful she is.; May 28, 2015 at 12:11 PM
Anonymous said...: " kenhyderal said...

Ignorant, incredibly stupid, racist; don't you Duke Lacrosse apologists and Crystal Mangum haters ever get embarrassed by your childish name calling

May 28, 2015 at 10:31 AM"

Don't you ever get tired of passing off a false rape accuser, murderess as a victim?

My how you revel in your incredible stupidity.; May 28, 2015 at 12:47 PM
Walt said...: Abe Froman, and Guiowen as you both point out so well, there have been several points in Crystal's life where she could have turned things around. And, each time she chose poorly. Unfortunately, she had some enablers, like Sid, Kenny and the rest of the injustice by Nifong gang working against her in the most insidious manner.

In the realm of good news, the State Bar has ruled that Tracey Cline violated the rules of professional conduct. Her punishment hearing is scheduled for June 4 and 5.

Walt-in-Durham; May 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: " What we hate is the way she is being manipulated by Sid and people like you for self-aggrandizement and to advance an harmful and hateful agenda".......... Do you have any disapprobation, at all, for the Duke Lacrosse Trial Lawyers who covertly, systematically and so dishonestly spread lies and distortions about this kind but disadvantaged individual struggling to get ahead and make a life for herself and her children. All to cast doubt on the credibility of her charges. The slander they disseminated was widely accepted, limiting her options and her choices from then onward. People like you have been duped by it. What is the harmful and hateful agenda you attribute to me and what aggrandizement is there in supporting a person who, you say, that neither you or anyone else you know would ever give employment to. The pity you profess to have sounds more like contempt to me. In my opinion Crystal has been unjustly convicted. If this injustice is every rectified, I hope you wont be too disappointed; May 28, 2015 at 3:04 PM
kenhyderal said...: Lance said: "This discussion does not address the work of Achebe I documented here, nor does it discuss the works of the other authors"............. So, tell us Lance, do you consider Dr. Albert Schweitzer and for that matter Dr. Sidney Harr a racist?; May 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM
kenhyderal said...: Walt said: "Unfortunately, she had some enablers, like Sid, Kenny and the rest of the injustice by Nifong gang working against her in the most insidious manner"........What was insidious was the outright lies and distortions spread evilly and anonymously, far and wide, about Crystal. eg. a violent, mentally ill, drug addicted prostitute; May 28, 2015 at 3:19 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"So, tell us Lance, do you consider Dr. Albert Schweitzer and for that matter Dr. Sidney Harr a racist?"

If kenny does not realize sidney is a racist, he is truly incredibly stupid.; May 28, 2015 at 3:42 PM
Lance the Intern said...: Albert Schweitzer was a man of his time. As such, I think, were he to broadcast his beliefs today, he would be considered racist. I think the works previously cited make this clear.

Sid? Not really. Sid's more Jonathan Lee Riches than Albert Schweitzer.; May 28, 2015 at 3:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Blogger kenhyderal said...

"What [were] insidious was the outright lies and distortions spread evilly and anonymously, far and wide, about Crystal. eg. a violent, mentally ill, drug addicted prostitute"

Figments of your incredibly stupid imagination.; May 28, 2015 at 3:44 PM
Anonymous said...: seriously?

perhaps i'm not a troll at all. perhaps i'm trying to get the evil duke troll to actually stop and think about what it's doing for a change. it's like watching barney non-stop (taken as ref. from an article i read where a kid who couldn't move was placed in front of a t.v. with barney showing non-stop. he says - yes he was still in his body totally aware of bs going on around him including his mom saying she wished he would die - he understood what his mom said more than being forced to watch barney non-stop). poor kid - although he's not a kid anymore; May 28, 2015 at 5:47 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..; May 28, 2015 at 5:51 PM
Anonymous said...: People like you 1:10 am are what help make others think Duke has become the biggest joke in this state. They do not fix their issues of the lowest town gown relations in the nation. They celebrate, perpetuate, and encourage the fact. Obviously, they want to be known as unaccountable killers, rapist, child molesters, liars, racist, thugs, mindless corrupted corruptors, and destroyers of the USA medical system in the name of greed, prestige, revenge, power, and hatred - and they lord it over the populace in hopes of ruling by fear and threats and a general disdain for the law and for justice and their concern for the welfare of only a few select 1%ers. The 2015 commencement speech was not a fluke - it depicted accurately what Duke is and has become - a bad tasteless irrevelant joke - where no-one is laughing and everyone is forced to cringe and endure in the rain while their multi-million dollar monoliths of over celebrated buildings sit idle and empty.; May 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM
A Lawyer said...: Those were nice places too when a different group of people lived there(whites).

We really don't need that kind of ugly, racist nonsense posted here (or anywhere).; May 29, 2015 at 9:44 AM
cyberbully evil duke troll said...: Who's your daddy?; May 29, 2015 at 6:40 PM
Anonymous said...: But try to understand
Try to understand
Try try try to understand
Ken's a magic man.; May 29, 2015 at 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous cyberbully evil duke troll said...

Who's your daddy?

May 29, 2015 at 6:40 PM"

You are getting more and more stressed; May 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
I don't know why you're angry at us. We're not the ones who essentially told her she could attack her boy friend with impunity.; May 29, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Anonymous said...: previous post curtesey of evil duke troll it g...'s plagerizim and reposting for its own entertainment

blah; May 30, 2015 at 5:18 AM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous said...

previous post curtesey of evil duke troll it g...'s plagerizim and reposting for its own entertainment

blah

May 30, 2015 at 5:18 AM"

More and more stressed you are

Yoda; May 30, 2015 at 6:17 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: UBES:

WE'RE CLOSE TO 1000 POSTS FROM YOU AND THE LIESTOPPER CRANKS. KEEP IT UP.

QUACK QUACK QUACK

SPIN UBES SPIN

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; May 30, 2015 at 7:17 AM
guiowen said...: O Great Kilgo
Please don't disappear. Don't you see how Kenhyderal neees you?; May 30, 2015 at 8:37 AM
guiowen said...: sorry, that should have been "needs".; May 30, 2015 at 9:18 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: G:

HAVE YOU BECOME ONE OF THE LIESTOPPER CRANKS?

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; May 30, 2015 at 9:48 AM
guiowen said...: No, Great Kilgo!
I'm only here to help Kenhyderal. But I don't have the information you have, and, above all, I don 't have your intelligence. Please help him!; May 30, 2015 at 10:11 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: I OFFERED TO HELP KENHYDERAL BUT HE WAS UNWILLING TO TRAVEL TO DURHAM.

HE WOULD RATHER RUN GOOGLE SEARCHES AND TRY TO IMPRESS PEOPLE WITH HIS QUOTES.

SPIN KENNY SPIN. QUACK QUACK QUACK; May 30, 2015 at 11:04 AM
Anonymous said...: " THE GREAT KILGO said...

UBES:

WE'RE CLOSE TO 1000 POSTS FROM YOU AND THE LIESTOPPER CRANKS. KEEP IT UP.

QUACK QUACK QUACK

SPIN UBES SPIN

May 30, 2015 at 7:17 AM"

What's an ubes?; May 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...

" THE GREAT KILGO said...

UBES:

WE'RE CLOSE TO 1000 POSTS FROM YOU AND THE LIESTOPPER CRANKS. KEEP IT UP.

QUACK QUACK QUACK

SPIN UBES SPIN

May 30, 2015 at 7:17 AM"

What's an ubes?

May 30, 2015 at 11:24 AM"

The plural of the abbreiation for unsolicited bulk email?; May 30, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Intern said...
"Thanks...I love the comparison. Dr. Schweitze[sic] was a hero of my father. He was quite a man and especially respectful of all human life."

Read Chinua Achebe's criticism of Schweitzer, as well as the reports from British journalist James Cameron, American journalist John Gunther and french physician Andre Audoynaud.

Schweitzer was just a little bit incredibly racist.

Hey, Lance.

I've heard the same, but don't much on the subject as I have never studied his bio. I understand that he was brilliant, talented (played the organ), and that he valued all life. Even though he may have believed that the African people he gave medical attention to were racially inferior, at least he made an effort to better their lives... and I give him credit for that. As opposed to Senator Jesse Helms, the unrepentant racist who did his best to make the lives of African Americans as miserable as possible.; May 30, 2015 at 1:29 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
So, Crystal claims to know that Kia Haynes doesn't live next door to her but doesn't think to tell anyone? And on the stand when asked if Kia Haynes shares a wall says yes, I guess that's another lie Meier told her to tell?

It's not Crystal's job to tell Meier about the facts of the case. Meier should have known where Hanes' apartment was in comparison with Daye's. Inexcusable... especially since he had the taxpayers give his investigators thousands of dollars. Meier could've blown the testimony of Aykia Hanes out of the water. I surely would have if given the chance. That's why I say that Mangum would never have been convicted had she been competently represented.; May 30, 2015 at 1:34 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Being an ex-con is only one impediment for Mangum.

She also has a history of mental illness.

She has a history of violence.

She has a history of lying and making false claims.

She is notorious.

She has no meaningful skills or work experience outside of the sex trade.

She will also be in her 50's when she is released. I know it's illegal to discriminate based on age, but how many employers are looking for 50+ year old entry level workers?

As an employer I would never hire anyone with as many strikes against them as Mangum has to work for me. I don't know of anyone who would.

When she is released from prison she will shlog thru the rest of her life on disability, welfare and whatever other forms of assistance she can get. That's not a good way to grow old.

Mangum's actions and decisions have effectively ruined any chance she has for a happy and meaningful life. She will pay for what she has done with every breath she draws until she ceases breathing. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to summon the energy required to hate her. There is nothing anyone can do to her that is worse than what she (with some help and assistance) has done to herself.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Quite a bleak picture you paint for Mangum, Abe, but I wouldn't count on it. Mangum will never come close to serving out that 18 year sentence. As soon as I'm able to devote full time to her case, I think it'll be a matter of weeks to months before she's released... not years.

I'll get a crying towel for you as well as Walt so that you'll have something to absorb your tears when Mangum's released and the conviction overturned. (Do you want Duke blue or would you prefer another color?); May 30, 2015 at 1:44 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: A Lawyer said...
Those were nice places too when a different group of people lived there(whites).

We really don't need that kind of ugly, racist nonsense posted here (or anywhere).

Thanks, A Lawyer. Although we may not always agree on the issues, we do share common values of decency that abhor racism.; May 30, 2015 at 1:49 PM
kenhyderal said...: Ubes is a nick-name for a poster who used the user-name Ubekannte . That is a German word meaning Anonymous. Him and the poster who used the username The Great Kilgo had many exchanges on this Blog. This poster now using that name is an imposter. He is a sadistic person here to make game of those trying to assist Crystal Ubes was a Duke Lacrosse apologist and Kilgo claimed he had evidence that David Evans was one of the guilty parties in the sexual assault of Crystal; May 30, 2015 at 1:50 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Kenhyderal,
I don't know why you're angry at us. We're not the ones who essentially told her she could attack her boy friend with impunity.

gui, mon ami, no one told Mangum she could attack her boyfriend with impunity... she did so reluctantly and as a last resort. I believer her that she was being choked by Daye. Not much of a stretch after he knocked down the bathroom door and pulled her out by the hair. Face it, that behavior is out of controlled rage, and surely Mangum was frightened... in an apartment of horror.; May 30, 2015 at 1:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid - you are nothing if not a delusional idiot. You miss the BJs that much? We know that's what Kenny misses.; May 30, 2015 at 3:26 PM
kenhyderal said...: Lance, Walt, Abe, Guiowen, A Lawyer etc. Are you not embarrassed to have such ignorant and despicable supporters of your point of view as Anonymous @ 3:26; May 30, 2015 at 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...: "Nifong Supporter said...

Anonymous said...
So, Crystal claims to know that Kia Haynes doesn't live next door to her but doesn't think to tell anyone? And on the stand when asked if Kia Haynes shares a wall says yes, I guess that's another lie Meier told her to tell?

It's not Crystal's job to tell Meier about the facts of the case. Meier should have known where Hanes' apartment was in comparison with Daye's. Inexcusable... especially since he had the taxpayers give his investigators thousands of dollars. Meier could've blown the testimony of Aykia Hanes out of the water. I surely would have if given the chance. That's why I say that Mangum would never have been convicted had she been competently represented.

May 30, 2015 at 1:34 PM"

sid again manifests his incredible stupidity.; May 30, 2015 at 3:56 PM
Anonymous said...: "Nifong Supporter said...

"Quite a bleak picture you paint for Mangum, Abe, but I wouldn't count on it. Mangum will never come close to serving out that 18 year sentence. As soon as I'm able to devote full time to her case, I think it'll be a matter of weeks to months before she's released... not years.

I'll get a crying towel for you as well as Walt so that you'll have something to absorb your tears when Mangum's released and the conviction overturned. (Do you want Duke blue or would you prefer another color?)

May 30, 2015 at 1:44 PM"

The more he posts the more incredibly stupid sid becomes.; May 30, 2015 at 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"...Kilgo claimed he had evidence that David Evans was one of the guilty parties in the sexual assault of Crystal"

and kenny believed him which was an early manifestation of kenny's incredible stupidity; May 30, 2015 at 4:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

'gui, mon ami, no one told Mangum she could attack her boyfriend with impunity"

Well, you were telling her, along with anyone else, that the state had no case, that crystal would never go to trial, that the state will drop the charges.

Essentially that was the same thing.; May 30, 2015 at 4:04 PM
guiowen said...: kenhyderal said...

Lance, Walt, Abe, Guiowen, A Lawyer etc. Are you not embarrassed to have such ignorant and despicable supporters of your point of view as Anonymous @ 3:26

May 30, 2015 at 3:55 PM

Kenny,
I think what 3:26 said is stupid and improper.
Aren't you ashamed to have the 5:18 a.m. as your only ally?; May 30, 2015 at 5:29 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny said...

"Lance, Walt, Abe, Guiowen, A Lawyer etc. Are you not embarrassed to have such ignorant and despicable supporters of your point of view as Anonymous @ 3:26"

I do not see anything posted by Anonymous @ 3:26 that indicates (s)he supports me or any point of view I have expressed. More specifically, I do not know if you and Sid miss BJ's and I have never expressed a point of view on the matter. Likewise, I have not expressed a point of view regarding Sid's mental health or intelligence.

Everyone disagrees with you and Sid when it comes to Mangum. Just because a person disagrees with you doesn't mean they support Lance, Walt, G, A Lawyer or me. Even if they happen to support one or more of us that does not make us responsible for what they do and write.

Go and make yourself a sausage.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 30, 2015 at 6:17 PM
kenhyderal said...: Let me restate my statement then. If they do support one or more of you would you not find their crude, uncalled for, comments embarrassing? I find your repeat of them with the snide caveat that you don't know if it's true or not just as crude.; May 30, 2015 at 8:26 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

You are the one who drew attention to Anonymous @ 3:26's comment and republished it. You then tried to dishonestly associate it with me, Lance, Walt, G and A Lawyer and falsely imply that it somehow mirrored our views. That was crass and despicable.

If I have a viewpoint or support someone else's viewpoint(s) you will know because I will say so. Any attempt by you to connect me to or hold me responsible for comments I did not make and views I have not expressed is juvenile and dishonest and does not merit discussion.

Now go and have a sausage.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 30, 2015 at 9:27 PM
guiowen said...: Abe,
You don't understand. As a master debater, Ken is allowed to try such tricks on us. (More fools us, if we let him get away with them.); May 30, 2015 at 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't know why, but kenny's failed attempts to connect me to a comment about BJ's that he didn't like reminds me of a joke:

There once was a 14 year old boy named Johnny. Johnny didn't much like sports. He wasn't particularly interested in girls. He was somewhat frail and didn't enjoy so-called "manly pursuits." All this caused his father to question Johnny's sexuality, to his great dismay and consternation.

One day, when Johnny came home from school, his father asked him how his day was. Johnny proudly announced, "I had my first BJ today." Greatly relieved, his father said, "Good for you soon. How was it?" "It was okay, I guess" replied Johnny, "but it tasted awful."

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 30, 2015 at 9:50 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe you are wrong. I didn't republish it. You're the one who did that and in a very suggestive way. Your protest that you don't know and have no opinion on the subject hints at the possibility that it may have some merit and I find that reprehensible.; May 30, 2015 at 9:51 PM
guiowen said...: Kenny's latest trick:
A: "I don't know whether Joe beats his wife."
K: "Ah, so you're saying he probably does beat her!"; May 30, 2015 at 11:59 PM
Lance the Intern said...: I've never called Sid a delusional idiot, and I've never commented on any sexual acts that Crystal Mangum may have performed for either you or Sid. What makes you assume the 3:26 comment supports my point of view?; May 31, 2015 at 10:20 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

I was mistaken when I said you republished the comment. Will you apologize for falsely trying to associate it with me?

If you don't like the comment, take it up with the person who made it. I have no interest in discussing BJ's or Sid's intelligence and mental health with you. I have no interest in the former and have never expressed an opinion on the latter.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 31, 2015 at 10:24 AM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM
kenhyderal said...: Lance said: "I've never called Sid a delusional idiot, and I've never commented on any sexual acts that Crystal Mangum may have performed for either you or Sid. What makes you assume the 3:26 comment supports my point of view""........... Let's ask him then, "whose point of view do you support, that of Dr. Harr and Kenhyderal or that of the aforementioned posters` It would have been easy for you and Abe to simply say, that kind of innuendo is uncalled for but no, you just had to use my condemnation of his scurrilous remarks as one more opportunity to perpetuate the slanderous Duke Lacrosse metanarrative, created to cast doubt on the credibility of Crystal`s charge, that she was a prostitute. That along with the implication Dr. Harr and I were "johns". You say, "what acts she MAY of performed". Abe says, `I don't know if you and Sid MISS the **`s When I called Abe on it, he feigned outrage. He hasn`t fooled anyone. As just another Duke Lacrosse dupe, he just can`t resist taking any opportunity to continue to destroy the credibility of Crystal and any who support her. The Team Members, their Parents and their Trial Lawyers saw this strategy as a means to beat the charge and then to profit from suing. In this effort they recruited a number of disgruntled academics. Success in that dubious enterprise depended on destroying the reputation of Crystal and of former DA Nifong. They have tried as well to do this to her supporters like Dr. Harr and Investigative Journalist and Author William Cohan. You all remind me a lot of Republican Presidential Nomination Candidates when called on to repudiate racist, misogynist or anti-science remarks by extremist Tea Party primary voters try to avoid outright condemnation. I would like to remind posters that Crystal has children old enough to be on-line.; May 31, 2015 at 3:28 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

I take your last comment to mean that you will not apologize for falsely associating me with a comment I did not make. I can't say I am surprised.

3:26 was insulting you. He was insulting you because you act like an ass on here.

Fight your own battles. Don't drag me into them. I am not sticking up for you. I am not your friend. I am not even acquainted with you. If you have a problem with something someone says to or about you, take it up with them. I had nothing to do with the comment. It does not support anything I have ever posted or said.

You really need to change your tactics. They are not persuasive or effective, and they aren't helping Mangum. You are only succeeding in further damaging your own credibility and alienating people.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 31, 2015 at 4:44 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal said,
" 'what acts she MAY of performed'".
For God's sake, Kenny, can't you at least copy people's remarks properly? It should be "what acts she MAY HAVE performed".
You've no idea how jarring your use of "of" instead of "have" is. As far as I'm concerned, you're hopeless in your opinions, but at least try to correct this!; May 31, 2015 at 5:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Blogger kenhyderal said...

"you just had to use my condemnation of his scurrilous remarks as one more opportunity to perpetuate the slanderous Duke Lacrosse metanarrative, created to cast doubt on the credibility of Crystal`s charge, that she was a prostitute."

There was no Duke meta narrative. Therefore there was no slanderous Duke Metanarrative.

Crystal, herself cast doubt on her allegations of rape by members of the Lacrosse team by her multiple contradictory descriptions of what happened to her.

Further doubt was cast by the failure to find any medical or medical evidence she was raped.

That kenny believes crystal was raped was and is and will continue to be evidence of kenny's incredible stupidity.; May 31, 2015 at 5:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Blogger guiowen said...

Kenhyderal said,
" 'what acts she MAY of performed'".
For God's sake, Kenny, can't you at least copy people's remarks properly? It should be "what acts she MAY HAVE performed".
You've no idea how jarring your use of "of" instead of "have" is. As far as I'm concerned, you're hopeless in your opinions, but at least try to correct this!

May 31, 2015 at 5:15 PM

g...you are 'jarred' by what you perceive as the misuse of of and have - but not by what you and most (if not all) of the evil duke troll gang say to try to discredit Ms. Mangum and the way you and they support Duke killing Mr. Daye with malpractice and then continue to cover it up through the judicial system in order to continue to frame Ms. Mangum for a murder by malpractice that they themselves committed as documented in their own medical records.

Dr. Harr, why do you continue to call g... your friend? You have never answered this question, but it is a serious one. Please do enlighten us on this matter. Thank you.; May 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM
kenhyderal said...: Maybe he is being sarcastic. After all Grammar Policeman Guiowen is one of the most sarcastic people you will ever encounter; May 31, 2015 at 8:57 PM
kenhyderal said...: @Abe; I didn't drag you into anything I simply asked you a question. The question being, are you not embarrassed by some of the posts people who support your point of view make on this blog? Your doubt that this obscene poster supports positions you take here rings hollow. You know he does and I know he does so no apology is needed but, hey, lets not argue over it. Lets ask him to come on line and say which posters here he is in agreement with. Abe, like Jeb Bush on Iraq, you're digging yourself into a hole; May 31, 2015 at 9:08 PM
guiowen said...: Kanhyderal,
For all we know, you're the one who wrote the 3:26 comment. It wouldn't be the first time you've tried that trick: say something nice and ugly, and try to put the blame on people who don't agree with you.; May 31, 2015 at 9:34 PM
guiowen said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 31, 2015 at 9:34 PM
guiowen said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 31, 2015 at 9:34 PM
guiowen said...: Sorry about that. Somehow my last comment appeared three times.; May 31, 2015 at 9:57 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Why would I be embarrassed because someone I don't know insulted you? As I said previously, I have never expressed an opinion on your and Sid's sex life, or on Sid's intelligence and mental health, so the commenter clearly wasn't supporting me or my point of view.

Someone insulted you. It's not the end of the world. Deal with it. Stop trying to hold me (and others) responsible for it and stop asking me to stick up for you. Your conduct on here has been absolutely indefensible and opens you up to attack by others. I am not involving myself in your disagreements with other posters. Those are your battles, not mine.

Now straighten up and fly right.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 31, 2015 at 11:06 PM
Anonymous said...: He asked if you were embarrassed by what that particular evil duke troll cyberbullies on this blog (an evil duke troll who holds the same position on these cases as you appear too on this blog). Are you Abe?; June 1, 2015 at 2:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous 2:49:

I suggest you read Abe's comment. He clearly said he is not embarrassed by comments from people he has never met. Similarly, I doubt Kenny is embarrassed by your comments.; June 1, 2015 at 4:57 AM
Anonymous said...: why would he be?; June 1, 2015 at 6:24 AM
Walt said...: Abe Froman wrote: "Why would I be embarrassed because someone I don't know insulted you? As I said previously, I have never expressed an opinion on your and Sid's sex life, or on Sid's intelligence and mental health, so the commenter clearly wasn't supporting me or my point of view.

Someone insulted you. It's not the end of the world. Deal with it. Stop trying to hold me (and others) responsible for it and stop asking me to stick up for you. Your conduct on here has been absolutely indefensible and opens you up to attack by others. I am not involving myself in your disagreements with other posters. Those are your battles, not mine.

Now straighten up and fly right."

Ding-Ding-Ding, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

Well said, Abe.

As for me being embarrassed by someone I don't know who is a racist, I am not. I previously posted opposition to such comments. However, as they do not represent anything germane to the discussion, I no longer respond to them at all.

Walt-in-Durham; June 1, 2015 at 7:01 AM
Anonymous said...: we can all imagine that particular cyberbullying evil duke troll as a big purple barney character ... doin' its thang ... if that helps at all

it is rather obnoxious, racist, sexist and very abusive to all

still ... good ol' evil duke troll barney doesn't say anything good about Duke and their supporters (ie: the evil duke troll gang who supports and eggs on the 'barney' evil duke troll charade - Walt - like you telling it to "run 'em" and joining in its cyberbully on this blog like you do sometimes); June 1, 2015 at 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...: I think your tinfoil hat is inside out. It appears to be amplifying the rays.; June 1, 2015 at 10:02 AM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said: "For all we know, you're the one who wrote the 3:26 comment. It wouldn't be the first time you've tried that trick: say something nice and ugly, and try to put the blame on people who don't agree with you"...........Guiowen, where in the world do you get that from. I have never posted anything on this blog
under anything but my own name. There was no first time. I believe you've made that up to try and discredit me; as you Duke Lacrosse apologists are want to do; June 1, 2015 at 10:19 AM
kenhyderal said...: Walt said: "As for me being embarrassed by someone I don't know who is a racist, I am not. I previously posted opposition to such comments. However, as they do not represent anything germane to the discussion, I no longer respond to them at all"...... Walt, you are a man of principles and should continue to forcefully voice opposition posts like that. Remember that such gratuitous comments are hurtful to many and serve no purpose other then to insult.; June 1, 2015 at 10:33 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny said:

"Walt, you are a man of principles and should continue to forcefully voice opposition posts like that. Remember that such gratuitous comments are hurtful to many and serve no purpose other then to insult."

That cuts both ways. You should follow your advice. If you paid more attention to the tone and content of your comments and behaved in a more civil manner, I think you would find that people would treat you better.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; June 1, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah right abe, troll on like any good ol' evil duke troll does

blah; June 1, 2015 at 12:29 PM

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