Sunday, March 11, 2018

Crystal Mangum's Motion for Default and Summary Judgment

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Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

In an effort to get the Motion for Default and Summary Judgment posted, I did not include the exhibits at this time. The Motion was filed last Thursday, March 8, 2018 in the Durham Courthouse. If you'll remember, the initial Complaint was filed on January 2, 2018...

It has been more than sixty (60) days and still no reply from either of the defendants... Officer Marianne Bond or the Durham District Attorney's Office. It is understandable as their defense is dramatically wanting. The problem being that they lack probable cause for the indictment. Another problem with the defense is the fact that it involves criminality on the part of the State... which is par for the course in this case.

Question for viewers and commenters: Why do you believe the Defendants have failed to respond to the January 2, 2018-filed complaint?

As you were.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Sid -- When are you going to post the documents denying CGM's appeal and motion for bail/release pending appeal?

guiowen said...

Sidney,
Don't you get tired filing suits that no one cares about, to the point of not answering?

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

"
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

In an effort to get the Motion for Default and Summary Judgment posted, I did not include the exhibits at this time. The Motion was filed last Thursday, March 8, 2018 in the Durham Courthouse. If you'll remember, the initial Complaint was filed on January 2, 2018...

It has been more than sixty (60) days and still no reply from either of the defendants... Officer Marianne Bond or the Durham District Attorney's Office. It is understandable as their defense is dramatically wanting. The problem being that they lack probable cause for the indictment. Another problem with the defense is the fact that it involves criminality on the part of the State... which is par for the course in this case.

Question for viewers and commenters: Why do you believe the Defendants have failed to respond to the January 2, 2018-filed complaint?

As you were."

There will be summary judment. In favor of Officer Bond.

Your suit which you filled in the name of Crystal Mangum has no merit, and so the court will decide.

Anonymous said...

Sidney YOUR motion for summary judgment filed under the alias of Crystal Mangum contains something proven long ago by facts, the lie that Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party. What makes you think the courts are unaware of that?

Anonymous said...

OOPS

Correction
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sidney YOUR motion for summary judgment filed under the alias of Crystal Mangum contains something proven long ago by facts to be a lie, the lie that Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party. What makes you think the courts are unaware of that?

Anonymous said...

Sidney you are a really disgusting piece of work.

You have never accomplished anything in your life, in spite of having the opportunity and capacity to do so.

You have compensated by using the legal system to bolster your ego-you file frivolous non meritorious lawsuits and then you are being discriminated against when your lawsuits are dismissed.

You have been enjoined from practicing law without a license. You have been cautioned about filing frivolous, non meritorious, vexatious lawsuits.

Now you are using Crystal as your proxy so you can get around the limitations imposed on you.

Anonymous said...

UdaUbes Pubes.

Anonymous said...

Kenny or Sidney or both continue to post anonymously to create the illusion that they have support.

Anonymous said...

Did you even serve the lawsuits? The Complaint says that you, Sid Harr, dropped them off at the respective offices. Someone who files as many lawsuits as you should know that's not remotely legal service. I suspect the reason they haven't responded is that you haven't even properly served the lawsuits yet.

Anonymous said...

Sid still brings up Felony Murder. You really are either delusional, or this is all just a sick joke to you.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, look up what NC law says about felony murder.

It does not say, murder committed while perpetrating a felony is felony murder.

Felony murder happens when someone committing a felony in which the killing of another person in the course of the crime is forseeable, e.g. when Shan Carter was pursuing Tyrone Baker(who was unarmed and fleeing at the time), packing an illegally possessed firearm, and opening fire at him while he was running across the street on which there were a number of other people, that was felony murder. Even if the killing of innocent 8 year old Demetrius Greene was unintentional it was felony murder.

You may try to consider yourself enlightened and elucidated, but your are incapable of experiencing enlightenment or elucidation because of your delusional megalomania.

Anonymous said...

Just for the elucidation and enlightenment to which you are willfully resistant, forseeable does not mean inevitable, it means a condition or event is possible. Are you going to argue that when Shan Carter was pursuing and firing at a fleeing unarmed Tyrone Baker with an illegally possessed firearm, and the whole event took place on a street on which there were innocent bystanders, he could not forsee that one of his bullets would strike an innocent bystander?

Anonymous said...

Again for Kenhyderal, who said he needs no proof that Crystal had been raped because he trusts her, that the Lacrosse player had an obligation to prove their innocence, and that, if they had gone to trial the jury should have been composed of Crystal's peers, should the jury in the Reginald Daye murder trial have been composed of Reginald Daye's peers.

If you say no, then explain why Caucasian(William Cohan's description) accused of raping a black woman should be tried by the black woman's peers, but a black woman accused of murdering a black man should not be tried by a jury of the black man's peers.

Look at the video on youtube about the case. Reginald Daye's peers were not at all kindly disposed towards Crystal.

Would a group of students from NCCU be Crystal's peers. After the community event at NCCU in which Nifong said he was going to prosecute the Lacrosse players in the face of no evidence, would thay have been kindly disposed to the Lacrosse defendants.

If you choose not to answer, it would be confirmation you are a morally bankrupt coward, and the 5th Amendment does not apply to you in this case.

Anonymous said...

Sidney's going to get what he wished for, a summary judgment, but it will be a summary judgment against his proxy Crystal.

Following up on the comment of March 12, 2018 at 3:59 AM, do you have any signed acknowledgement from Officer Bond that she had been served the complaint?

If you had, then why did you not post it on your blog?

This might interest you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_of_process:

"When an individual party to be served is unavailable for personal service, many jurisdictions allow for substituted service. Substituted service allows the process server to leave service documents with another responsible individual, called a person of suitable age and discretion, such as a cohabiting adult or a teenager. Under the U.S. Federal Rules, substituted service may only be made at the abode or dwelling of the defendant.[2] California, New York,[3] Illinois, and many other United States jurisdictions require that in addition to substituted service, the documents be mailed to the recipient.[3] Substituted service often requires a serving party show that ordinary service is impracticable, that due diligence has been made to attempt to make personal service by delivery, and that substituted service will reach the party and effect notice."

Anonymous said...

One of Sidney's excuses for he failure of his frivolous non meritorious lawsuits is that because a lawyer he does not have access to the NC State Bar Lw Library so he should ge a pass for not following the rules of judicial procedure.

Is he going to pass off that excuse for his proxy Crystal when Crystal's(Sidney's) motion for summary judgment is denied?

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

"It has been more than sixty (60) days and still no reply from either of the defendants... Officer Marianne Bond or the Durham District Attorney's Office. It is understandable as their defense is dramatically wanting."

You got it wrong again. What was dramatically wanting was your de facto representation of Crystal.

Anonymous said...

It would be useful if Walt in Durham or A Lawyer to weigh in on whether or not the defendants in Crystal's lawsuits were validly served process.

FakeKenhyderal said...

Sid -- When are you going to post the documents denying CGM's appeal and motion for bail/release pending appeal?

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

This should be of interest to you:

http://www.civillawselfhelpcenter.org/self-help/lawsuits-for-money/pleading-stage-filing-a-complaint-or-responding-to-a-complaint/241-filing-a-complaint-to-start-your-case

"When the plaintiff files the complaint, she will pay a filing fee to the court. She will also have the court issue a “summons.” A “summons” is a legal document that notifies the defendant that he is being sued. It tells him which court the case is in, the names of the parties to the case, and the names of the plaintiff’s attorney (if there is one).

The summons and complaint must then be “served” (personally delivered by a process server) to the defendant."

Did you have a process server personally deliver Crystal'(actually YOUR) complaints to the defendant?

Anonymous said...

This also should be of interest to you:

https://www.serve-now.com/resources/process-serving-laws/north-carolina:

"North Carolina Process Serving Requirements

Upon the filing of the complaint, summons shall be issued forthwith and in any event within five days. The complaint and summons shall be delivered to some proper person for service. In this State, such proper person shall be the sheriff of the county where service is to be made or some other person duly authorized by law to serve summons. Outside this State, such proper person shall be anyone who is not a party and is not less than 21 years of age or anyone duly authorized to serve summons by the law of the place where service is to be made."

Did you give the complaint to "some proper person for service", or did you, as alleged in the comment from March 12, 2018 at 3:59 AM, that you just, "dropped them off at the respective offices".

If that is true, then according to NC rules of civil procedure you did not validly serve the defendants and you will not make Crystal's(actually your) case for "Defauldt and Summary Judgment".

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

Hypothetical situation:

Someon wants to sue me. He personally puts a copy in my mailbox. I find it, read it, shred it and dispose of the shreddings.

Hos can the plaintiff prove I was ever served with the complaint?

He can't.

That is the flaw in just dropping off the complaint in the respective offices.

If you had given it to someone who is a proper person for service who had personally handed the complaints to the respective defndants, you would have had a witness to prove the defendants had been served.

Here is a modification of a saying: whoever uses Sidney as a legal consultant has a fool for an advocate.

A Reasonable Man said...

I second the request for the posting of the documents denying CGM's appeal and motion for bail/release pending appeal.

Further, I am refraining from posting on this site until the documents are posted, and I further suggest anyone interested in the posting of these documents join me in this movement to encourage transparency on this blog

We'll refer to it as the #seetoo movement.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I want to #seetoo whether or not Sidney made good on his latest but not first promise to get Crystal released.

A Lawyer said...

Dr. Harr:
As was pointed out above, you were required to give the Summons and Complaint to the Sheriff to serve. Since you didn't, there has been no valid service and no default. Expect another loss for Mangum.

And when are you going to post the 4th Circuit's order on Mangum's motion for release and its decision on the habeas appeal? #Seetoo.

Anonymous said...

Sid,

Will you let us know when your motion is denied? Will you post the decision/order? Or will you be too busy?

Anonymous said...

At this point Kenhyderal will probably chime in with another post about how arcane, complex rules of legal procedure keep Crystal from justice.

More than any complex or arcane rules of judicial procedure, Sidney's ignorance of procedure, and his belief he is above the rules, is why Crystal has so much trouble with the legal system. Other than the crimes she committed, that is.

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

"Question for viewers and commenters: Why do you believe the Defendants have failed to respond to the January 2, 2018-filed complaint?"

Answer for Sidney:

From A Lawyer March 12, 2018 at 11:18 AM:

"As was pointed out above, you were required to give the Summons and Complaint to the Sheriff to serve. Since you didn't, there has been no valid service and no default. Expect another loss for Mangum."

From Anonymous March 12, 2018 at 9:39 AM:

https://www.serve-now.com/resources/process-serving-laws/north-carolina:

"North Carolina Process Serving Requirements

Upon the filing of the complaint, summons shall be issued forthwith and in any event within five days. The complaint and summons shall be delivered to some proper person for service. In this State, such proper person shall be the sheriff of the county where service is to be made or some other person duly authorized by law to serve summons. Outside this State, such proper person shall be anyone who is not a party and is not less than 21 years of age or anyone duly authorized to serve summons by the law of the place where service is to be made."

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "At this point Kenhyderal will probably chime in with another post about how arcane, complex rules of legal procedure keep Crystal from justice"............................... "Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are"-- F.D.R. Sometimes going by the book is a cop-out or even worse yet, as is likely in this case, an excuse to thwart

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
We're all aware that you're very good at cutting and pasting, but is there any way we can get you to stop whining? Is there any way we can get you to stop making stories up?

guiowen said...

As I've said before, Kenny, we'll forgive your racism if only you'll stop whining.

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "At this point Kenhyderal will probably chime in with another post about how arcane, complex rules of legal procedure keep Crystal from justice"............................... "Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are"-- F.D.R. Sometimes going by the book is a cop-out or even worse yet, as is likely in this case, an excuse to thwart"

Thank you for living down to all expectations.

Nifong did not go by the book when he wrongfully prosecuted the innocent falsely accused lacrosse defendants. Considering your attitude towards Crystal, believe her because you trust her, you would not have approved of a prosecutor not going by the book the way Nifong did.

Kenny the sanctimonious guilt presuming racist hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Kenny, what is particularly principled about prosecuting innocent men for a felony sex crime which never happened.

Anonymous said...

Kenny, how about you address this issue:

Should Crystal have had to prove herself innocent?

Should Crystal have been tried by a jury of Reginald Daye's peers.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Sometimes going by the book is a cop-out or even worse yet, as is likely in this case, an excuse to thwart"

The only one thwarting Sidney here is Sidney.

Getting back to Nifong again, your attitude is as follows: it is ok to ignore rules and laws regarding a case if the defendants are Caucasians(William Cohan's description).

If the defendant is black, ignore the rules.

Anonymous said...

Kenny whined:

"'Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are'-- F.D.R."

One of the sacred principles of all modern and just legal systems is the right to be notified of the allegations against you. We accomplish this in civil cases by service of process. There are rules to make sure a person is properly informed of any pleadings filed against him before any actions are taken by the court. When Sid disregards/disobeys the rules regarding service of court papers he interferes with that sacred principle.

The rules of justice apply to everyone. Even Sid and Crystal.

Anonymous said...

dKenny, I should have worded my last comment better.

Nifong did not go by the book and the result was that innocent men were almost put in jail. How were his actions thwarting of any thing other than the rights of and protections guaranteed to a criminal defendant. I guess you do not believe Caucasian(William Cohan's descriptio)defendants are entitled to such rights and protections, judging from your approval of Nifong.

I think it is a matter of res ipsa loquitur that you would not approve of anything which would have deprived Crystal of her rights and protections as a defendant.

Let's look at my hypothetical situation. Sidney wants to sue me. He puts his complaint in my mailbox. I get his complaint and run it through my shredder and dispose of the remnants.

How could Sidney have documented I had received his complaint. He could not have. Having the complaint and summons served, by the book in other words, would give Sidney a witness, corroboration, that the defendant had been served properly.

I bet you never thought of that, presuming that is, if you are capable of thinking.

Anonymous said...

So Kenny, read my comment at March 12, 2018 at 5:32 PM and then read my comment at March 12, 2018 at 6:05 PM.

Anonymous said...

UdaUbes Pubes.

kenhyderal said...

Dr. Anonymous said: "I get his complaint and run it through my shredder and dispose of the remnants:............................In an attempt to thwart justice. Next step deny you ever got it. It's a well known and oft practiced dodge of guilty people. In the case of Bond the fate of that document needs to be looked into. The person who it was handed to needs to account for what was done with it. Lets all try and seek Justice folks.

guiowen said...

Kenny,
We all (except or you) feel we've obtained justice in this case.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Dr. Anonymous said: "I get his complaint and run it through my shredder and dispose of the remnants:............................In an attempt to thwart justice."

"Next step deny you ever got it. It's a well known and oft practiced dodge of guilty people."

So you ar ok with guilt presumption, at least in the case of Caucasian(William Cohan's description) accused of a crime against a black woman. You would not agree that when Cryystal pleaded not guilty to murddrng Reginald Daye, that she was indicating guilt. You again reveal yourself as a guilt presumong racist.


"In the case of Bond the fate of that document needs to be looked into."

It has been looked into, by A Lawyer and another. Sidney did not have the complaint served properly.

"The person who it was handed to needs to account for what was done with it."

Wrong. First Sidney said he had dropped off the complaint at the respective offices. He did not say he handed it to another person. As he did not hand it to someone who could effect valid service of process, no one in either office was under any obligation to hand it to any one. It was Sidney's obligation and no other's to effect valid service of process.

"Lets all try and seek Justice folks."

Kenny's definition of justice in this case, folks, is, ignore Sidney's failure to follow the rules of judicial procedure, set up to insure the defendants are aware of what the charges against them are, penalize the defendants Sidney failed to serve properly and have them found in default and subjugated to summary judgment.

Anonymous said...

Kenny:

Have you ever seen the movie The Final Countdowm?

The USS Nimitz goes through a time warp and ends up off Pearl Harbor on December 6, 1941. There is a scene in which two F-14's engage and shoot down two Japanese Zeros.

YOU ARE SO EASY TO SHOOT DOWN-THE F14'S HAD MORE DIFFICULTY SHOOTING DOWN THE ZEROS THAN I HAD SHOOTING YOU DOWN.

Now you well emerge from the your wreck and start screaming, DUKE LACROSSE APOLOGIST!

That is less of a threat to anyone than the Zeros were to the F14's

Anonymous said...

Let us remember how Nifong concealed evidence which proved the Lacrosse defendants were innocent of the crime with which they were charged, meaning he tried to deprive the defendants of their right to defend themselves.

Sidney tried to have the complaint served in a way in which the defendants would not have been served properly. They were served in a way which would have deprived them of their right to defend themselves.

Kenny calls that justice.

If that was intentional on Sidney's part, I would not be surprised as Sidney considers Nifong's wrongful, unethical prosecution of the Duke defendants as the work of a decent, honorable minister of justice. And I would not put it past Sidney that he, like Nifong, thought he could get away with something obviously unethical.

Anonymous said...

Kenny, while we are on the subject of, "Lets all try and seek Justice folks":

Address this issue, instead of adopting a stance of DENY DUCK DODGE AVOID, EVADE.

You are on record that the Lacrosse defendants ha an obligation to prove themselves innocent. You said the Lacrosse defendants should have been tried before a jury of Crystal's peers.

Should Crystal have had an obligation to prove her innocence. Should Crystal have been tried before a jury of Reginald Daye's peers.

Anonymous said...

With regard to how Sidney tried to serve the defendants in Crystal"(actually his) lawsuts:

Sidney has filed a number of lawsuits since he has arrived in Durham.

As documented in the Independent Weekly he filed anumber of lawsuits before he ever arrived in Durham.

So is it credible after all that, that Sidney was unaware of how to effect valid service of process?

I believe Sidney deliberately tried to serve Crystal's(actually his) complaints in a way that would set up the defendanst for default and summary judgment. Nifong style, Sidney tried to deprive the defendants of their right to defend themselves. Very Nifongian.

Anonymous said...

lSidey Said, "Complaint was filed on January 2, 2018...

It has been more than sixty (60) days and still no reply from either of the defendants... Officer Marianne Bond or the Durham District Attorney's Office. It is understandable as their defense is dramatically wanting."

What is wanting is the merit of Crystal's(actually Sidney's) complaints.

Why else would Sidney try to effect service in a way which would deprive the defendants of their right to defend themselves. Even if a lawsuit has merit, the defendants have a right to defend themselves. Like his ideal DA Nifong(Sidney has claimed that corrupt Nifong was the best DA Durham ever had), Sidney tried to deprive the defendants of the right to defend themselves.

That is the kind of justice Sidney's Wacko-lyte Kenny advocates.

Anonymous said...

DKenhyderal:

With regard to your comment of

March 12, 2018 at 9:07 PM:

The issue is, if I did find Sidney's compaint in my mailbox and then shredded it, how could Sidney prove I ever received it? He couldn't.

If he had someone like the Sheriff serve me the complaint he would have had corroboration I had received the complaint.

Why would I shred a complaint I might have received from Sidney. Sidney has a record for filing frivolous, non mertorious vexatious lawsuits. Why would anyone subject himself to the hassle and expense of having to defend himself, especially when he would be aware that the complaint was not validly served?

Anonymous said...

One more question for Kenny:

Do you think people like Officer Bond and people in the DA's office would be aware of whether service of process is valid?

If they are aware of the nature of lawsuits filed by Sidney, and that is likely, and if they are aware that service was not valid, what obligation are they under to defend themselves.

If Crystal had been sued and had been served improperly what obligation did she have to defend herself?

If Sidney had been sued and then not served the complaint validly would he have been obligated to defend himself.

In either or those two scenarios would you be advocating that, regardless of the improper service they would be obligated to defend themselves? In view of your attitudes of guilt presumption towards the Caudcasian Lacrosse defendants(William Cohan's description) I think not.

Anonymous said...

Kenny:

One more:

Explain how it would be justice if civil defendants were subjected to default and summary judgment after a plaintiff failed to properly serve them with a complaint, especially when the faulty service happened because the plaintiff, even if it were not intentional, tried to deprive them of their right to defend themselves?

Anonymous said...

Service of Process is a basic tenant of fairness and isn't that hard to accomplish. The fact that Kenny still thinks Sid deserves breaks, despite all of his lawsuits, so he should know better, shows Kenny doesn't want Justice, he want's favoritism.

Why shouldn't the same rules that apply to everyone else apply to Sid/Crystal? It's not that hard to get service of process. Sid isn't even trying. Sid isn't serious about his lawsuits, it's further proof this is all just a sick, twisted game to him.

Anonymous said...

Yet one more for Kenny and Sidney:

I say again, considering how many lawsuits Sidney has filed in his life, considering his admiration for Nifong who tried to deny the Lacrosse defendants their right to defend themselves:

I do not believe Sidney was unaware of what constitutes valid service of process.

I do believe Sidney tried to serve the defendants the way he did because he believed he could nifong the defendants, maneuver them into a situation in which they would not reply to the complaint and then try to have them found in default and then subjected to summary judgment, which does amount to Sidney trying to deprive the defendants of their right to defend themselves.

Which if true means that, contrary to Sidney's statement, "It has been more than sixty (60) days and still no reply from either of the defendants... Officer Marianne Bond or the Durham District Attorney's Office. It is understandable as their defense is dramatically wanting", what is "dramatically wanting" is the merit of the lawsuits Crystal(actually Sidney) filed against Officer Bond and the Durham DA's office. It further means that Sidney thought he could pull off a case of gross injustice. Maybe, after this attempt at mocking justice by Sidney the NC Courts will slap Sidney with a fine and jail time for violating the order forbidding him from practicing law without a license.

So I echo Kenny's statement, "Lets all try and seek Justice folks." To seek justice in this case would be to have Crystal's(actually Sidney's) motions for default and summary judgment tossed into the trash where they belong, and Sidney sanctioned for practicing law without a license, Sidney sanctioned for trying to use the justice system to violate Officer Bond's and the Durham DA's Office's rights.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous March 13, 2018 at 6:15 AM

"Service of Process is a basic tenant of fairness and isn't that hard to accomplish. The fact that Kenny still thinks Sid deserves breaks, despite all of his lawsuits, so he should know better, shows Kenny doesn't want Justice, he want's favoritism.

Why shouldn't the same rules that apply to everyone else apply to Sid/Crystal? It's not that hard to get service of process. Sid isn't even trying. Sid isn't serious about his lawsuits, it's further proof this is all just a sick, twisted game to him."

I would put it differently. Kenny's concept of justice is guilt presumption if the defendant's ethnicity is Caucasian(William Cohan's description), and the accuser's ethnicity is black, even when it is glaringly obvious that the accuser lied when she accused the defendants.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous March 13, 2018 at 6:15 AM:

Sidney was serious about the lawsuits. What he was serious about was nifonging the defencants.

Anonymous said...


Litigants who diddle with service of process are usually trying to game the system to get something they know they can't get by legitimate means (or just to annoy the opposing parties and the court).

If you have a strong case and care about justice (rather than using the courts to annoy and vex people you disagree with), you make damn sure the opposing parties are properly served. It is a fundamental principle of fairness and it's not hard to do.

Will you let us know the outcome of your motion, or will you just go silent and claim you were too busy to update us?

Anonymous said...

Yet more for Sidney and Kenny:

Sidney has been enjoined fro practicing law without a license.

Suppose the court compare Crystal's filings with the filings Sidney had made with all his lawsuits, e.g. against Duke, against DA Lorin Freeman, and finds similarities between those filings and Sidney's filings, and Sidney is on record for visiting Crystal regularly and for advising her. So the Court could determine that Sidney, not Crystal, had prepared the complaints.

That would mean that Sidney had violated the injunction forbidding him from practicing law without a license.

Would that be cause for the court to dismiss the suit, even if service of process was proper. In my opinion the answer to that is yes.

Anonymous said...

More for Kenny, your statement, quoting me, "I get his complaint and run it through my shredder and dispose of the remnants:............................In an attempt to thwart justice."

Sidney's track record of filing lawsuits is one of filing frivolous non meritorious lawsuits, most, of not all, of them were dismissed out of hand before they got to trial.

If Sidney filed a lawsuit against me it would have been a frivolous lawsuit, and it I thwarted the suit, regardless of the means, it would have been thwarting injustice.

Anonymous said...

For Kenhyderal again:

Counting this comment, there have been 58 comments posted. Three of those comments have been pro Sidney/Kenny, one by Sidney himself and 2 by Kenny. Fifty five have been anti Sidney/Kenny.

Kenny, where are all those people you claim support the Sidney/Kenny perspective on the Duke Rape Hoax, on the murder of Reginald Daye?

Have such people like race baiter Al, race baiter Jesse, William Barber, Irwin Joyner, the New Black Panthers, Karla Holloway, Wahneema Lubiano, Grant Fared, Houston the farm animal Baker, all of whom initially supported Crystal and Nifong, ever posted here?

Instead of your usual policy of DENY DUCK DODGE AVOID EVADE how about you give a meaningful answer.

Or are you going to claim that Liestoppers are intimidating such people from posting?

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

One more just to make the score 3 pro Sidney/Kenny, 56 anti Sidney/Kenny:

While Liestoppers is not intimidating anyone here, it is obvious that my comments and others' comments have you and Sidney intimidated.

If you are not intimidated, you could have come up with something other than your pitiful comment of March 12, 2018 at 9:07 PM, and I quote(with emphasis added) "Dr. Anonymous said: 'I get his complaint and run it through my shredder and dispose of the remnants:............................" In an attempt to thwart justice(from the movie of Jesus Christ Superstar, "Your words, not mine"-you and Sidney are the ONLY people here trying to thwart justice). Next step deny you ever got it. It's a well known and oft practiced dodge of guilty people. In the case of Bond the fate of that document needs to be looked into. THE PERSON WHO IT WAS HANDED TO NEEDS TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT WAS DONE WITH IT(emphasis added to show how ignorant you are of due process). Lets all try and seek Justice folks."

Sidney has come up with nothing since he posted his latest ode to injustice.


A Lawyer said...

In the case of Bond the fate of that document needs to be looked into. The person who it was handed to needs to account for what was done with it.

Actual receipt of the Complaint by the defendant is insufficient to create personal jurisdiction unless it was accomplished in the means provided for in the Rule.

Lets all try and seek Justice folks.

"The history of liberty has largely been the history of the observance of procedural safeguards."--Justice Felix Frankfurter in McNabb v. U.S., 318 US 332, 347 (1943).

A Lawyer said...

Sidney has been enjoined fro[m] practicing law without a license.

And this latest epic fail illustrates why. Any licensed lawyer would know to look in the Rules of Civil Procedure to find out how to validly serve a Complaint. Even most lay people who represent themselves in court know that the Rules of Civil Procedure exist, are available on line, and need to be followed. Dr. Harr doesn't even bother to look up the rules, and the result is going to be another loss for Mangum. The State Bar and the Court knew what they were doing when they enjoined Dr. Harr from practicing law without a license.

By the way, Dr. Harr, where are the decisions of the 4th Circuit on Mangum's motion for release and on her appeal? #Seetoo

kenhyderal said...

@ A Lawyer quoting Felix Frankfurter........................................................................ "The young man knows the rules but the old man knows the exceptions”- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Anonymous said...

Sidney, Kenny:

Counting this comment the score is 3 pro Sidney/Kenny, 59 anti Sidney/Kenny

Anonymous said...

Sidney, Kenny, let's make it 3 pro Sidney/Kenny, 60 anti Sidney/Kenny.

Where are all the supporters you claim you have. Why do they not post in support of you?

Considering the possibility that Kennny is an alter ego of Sidney, maybe Sidney is so busy on his next blog entry, and we have expectation it will be as significant NOT as all his previous entries.

LanceTheIntern said...

Terrible argument, Kenhyderal.

When it comes to legal procedure, it's painfully obvious to anyone who knows either the rules or the exceptions that Dr. Harr knows neither.

Back to lurker mode.

#seetoo

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"@ A Lawyer quoting Felix Frankfurter........................................................................ "The young man knows the rules but the old man knows the exceptions”- Oliver Wendell Holmes"

Kenny's take on rules and exceptions is, a black defendant accused of a crime is entitle to a fair trial. A Caucasian(William Cohan's term) is not, as is shown by his posts to the effect that the Lacrosse defendants ha an obligation to prove their innocence, that their fate at trial should have been decoded by a jury of the accusr's peers.

Kenny, address this issue: should Crystal have had an obligation to provr her innocence? Should Crystal's fate at trial have been decided by a jury of Reginald Daye's peers?

The score is no3, 4 pro Sidney/Kenny, 61 anti Sidney/Kenny.

Where are all your supporters?

Anonymous said...

Well, now the score is 4 pro Sidney/Kenny 63 anti Sodney/Kenny.

Where are all your supporters. Where are all the members of the Committee for Justice for Nifong? Where are their posts?

Anonymous said...

With this one, the score is pro Sidney/Kenny 4. Anti Sidney/Kenny 64

The tally is 16:1 against you two.

How does that show anyone believes you?

kenhyderal said...

Conventional wisdom is always sure but often dead wrong especially when it has been skillfully disseminated in the first place by propaganda.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Conventional wisdom is always sure but often dead wrong especially when it has been skillfully disseminated in the first place by propaganda."

Irrelevant statement as only you and Sidney disseminate propaganda on this blog. Nazi Germany was big on disseminating propaganda. HEIL Kenny, to which add HEIL Sicney.

Instead of disseminating propaganda why not answer the question put to you on multiple occasions, should Crystal have been required to prove herself innocent? Both you and Sidney have said the Lacrosse defendants had an obligation to prove themselves innocent. Should Crystal's fate have been decided by a jury of Reginald Daye's peers. You have said that the fate of the Lacrosse defendants should have been decided by a jury of Crystal's peers.

Instead of answering you are engage in a strategy of DENY DUCK DODGE EVADE AVOID.

The score is now 5 pro Sidney/Kenny 65 anti Sidney/Kenny.

The score is now 13 to 1 against you, or, in other terms 60 more against's than the number of for's.

Where are your supporters?

Anonymous said...

@Kenhyderal:
"Conventional wisdom is always sure but often dead wrong especially when it has been skillfully disseminated in the first place by propaganda."

My, my....How pithy.

Do you have an example?

Anonymous said...

The score now, including this one is 5 pro Sidney/Kenny 67 anti Sidney/Kenny. The differential stands at 62.

Sidney, Knny, where are all your supporters?

guiowen said...

Poor old Kenny just enjoys whining. I will admit he's good at finding quotes -- too bad he doesn't know how to use those quotes.

Anonymous said...

5 pro Sidney/Kenny 69 anti Sidney/Kenny. Differential now 64.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "Do you have an example"........... How ironic coming from an American. In the South slavery was once believed to be the natural order. Segregation was once believed to be the natural order. Doctor Martin Luther King Jr. was once considered to be a pariah. They were wrong and they know they were wrong but it's too condemning to admit to. Here's what a prominent American Journalist Steven Thrasher wrote in the Guardian Newspaper on MLK Day "Today is the day when many American politicians pretend to care about the life and legacy of Martin Luther King Jr, one of the wisest souls who attempted to save this sorry nation. Don’t fall for their scams. And yet, modern-day Republicans and Democrats often speak as if they love King, even as they excoriate the real heirs to his legacy: the Black Lives Matter activists and other social justice warriors who fight for racial and economic liberation. But the truth is, many of these American politicians would have hated King when he was alive as much as they hypocritically dishonor his radical legacy today" Just as they were wrong then they are wrong now about today's warriors for Justice like Dr. Sidney Harr

guillermo said...

I'm glad, Kenny, to see you are no longer trying to hide your racism.
Good to see you've once again come up with some quotes to justify it.
The trouble is none of us really believes what Thrasher wrote.

Anonymous said...

Oh Kenny -- Slavery in America had detractors from the beginning - with slaves being freed in the years after the American revolution.

And, while some would say Martin Luther King, Jr. was on his way to becoming a pariah (due to his views on the Vietnam war -- not his stance on segregation), to state that he was once considered to be a pariah is wrong.


Mr. Edwards, what you've just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "Do you have an example"........... How ironic coming from an American. In the South slavery was once believed to be the natural order. Segregation was once believed to be the natural order. Doctor Martin Luther King Jr. was once considered to be a pariah. They were wrong and they know they were wrong but it's too condemning to admit to. Here's what a prominent American Journalist Steven Thrasher wrote in the Guardian Newspaper on MLK Day "Today is the day when many American politicians pretend to care about the life and legacy of Martin Luther King Jr, one of the wisest souls who attempted to save this sorry nation. Don’t fall for their scams. And yet, modern-day Republicans and Democrats often speak as if they love King, even as they excoriate the real heirs to his legacy: the Black Lives Matter activists and other social justice warriors who fight for racial and economic liberation. But the truth is, many of these American politicians would have hated King when he was alive as much as they hypocritically dishonor his radical legacy today" Just as they were wrong then they are wrong now about today's warriors for Justice like Dr. Sidney Harr"

This latest screed is another instance of Kenny adopting a stance of DENY DODGE DUCK EVADE AVOID an issue he does not want to confront. The issue is, kenny says the Lacrosse players had an obligation to prove their innocence, that their fate, should they have gone to trial should have been decided by a jury of Crystal's peers; did Crystal Crystal have an obligation to prove, and should her fate have been decided by a jury of Reginald Daye's peers. I add to that, Kenny seems to think having the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players go to trial was Crystal's right.

Equating Sidney Harr to Martin Luther King is as blasphemous as Sidney's attempt to equate Crystal to the heroines of the #MeToo movement. Sidney supports Mike Nifong. Mike Nifong prosecuted innocent men for a crime which never happened(Kenny has never provided any factual proof that the crime did happen), and Nifong's strategy was to deny the accused a fair trial, deny the accused a defense by concealing evidence which established their innocence and lying to the court as to whether he had the evidence.

Martin Luther King would never have countenanced what you and Sidney and Nifong have done to deny justice to the innocent falsely accused Lacrosse players.

When you claim that Sidney Harr is as great as Dr. King, you remind me of the neo Nazis who try to pass off Hitler as a great man. HEIL KENNY!!!

The count now is 5 pro Sidney/Kenny, 73 anti Sidney/Kenny. The differential is up to 68.

Anonymous said...

HEIL KENNY

just to make it 5 pro Sidney/Kenny 74 anti Sidney/Kenny. Differential is 69.

Sidney, Kenny, where are all the supporters you claim you have?

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "And, while some would say Martin Luther King, Jr. was on his way to becoming a pariah (due to his views on the Vietnam war -- not his stance on segregation), to state that he was once considered to be a pariah is wrong."..........Yeah, everybody there now claims to have been opposed to The War in Vietnam. Thank God Canada had the sense to stay out of that conflict and also out of the second war in Iraq. http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/08/26/when_martin_luther_king_was_hated_and_unpopular.html But anyway, thanks for the blessing.

guiowen said...

Good old Kenny once again proves that Black-on-White racism is alive and well! Very good, Kenny!

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "Slavery in America had detractors from the beginning "............. Yeah. Abolition supporters in the South were those against the conventional wisdom.

kenhyderal said...

@ Guiowen. Yeah Maybe in Mugabe's Zimbabwe

guiowen said...

Kenny, don't worry. We're all aware that you're a racist. As I've told you before, we'll forgive this if only you'll stop whining.

kenhyderal said...

Guillermo said: "I'm glad, Kenny, to see you are no longer trying to hide your racism".......................I have nothing to hide and you have nothing to back up what you insinuate.

guiowen said...

By the way, Kenny, we're all aware of Thrasher's racism, too.

kenhyderal said...

@ Guiowen: As I've told you before racism is unforgiveable.

guiowen said...

You have no qualms about telling us what a great man this is. Yet his racism is obvious.
You yourself are clearly racist.
Incidentally, Mugabe resigned several months ago. I don't understand why you say racism (or anything else) is alive in his state.

guiowen said...

Kenny,
Didn't you tell us recently that things would change as soon as other (non Caucasian) races became a majority in America? That's a very racist comment.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "Slavery in America had detractors from the beginning "............. Yeah. Abolition supporters in the South were those against the conventional wisdom. "

Instead of ducking, dodging,, denying avoid evading, address the issue which has been raised.

You have said the lacrosse defendants had some obligation to prove themselves innocent, that their fate, if they had gone to trial should have been decided by a jury of Crystal's peers. Should Crystal have had to prove herself innocent? Should her fae have been decided by a jury of Reginald Daye's peers.

You refuse to answer because your answer would confirm you are a black on white racist.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

" Blogger kenhyderal said...

Guillermo said: "I'm glad, Kenny, to see you are no longer trying to hide your racism".......................I have nothing to hide and you have nothing to back up what you insinuate."

No innuendo. No insuation.

I flat out accuse you of being a black on white racist.

You did post that you needed no proof that Crystal had been raped because you trusted her, which shows you believe the Lacrosse players were rapists based solely on Crystal's word. In the Scottsboro case, the racist persecutors of the Scottsboro boys believed the Scottsboro boys should have been convicted solely on the word of the accusers.

You can duck dodge, deny, avoid, evade all you want. You can run but you can not hide. You are as racist as the persecutors of the Scottsboro boys, and your racism is directed at the Caucasian(William Cohan's description) Lacrosse players, and you hold on to your racism in the face of overwhelming evidence that he alleged rape never happeed.

Anonymous said...

From Guiowen:

"Kenny,
Didn't you tell us recently that things would change as soon as other (non Caucasian) races became a majority in America? That's a very racist comment.

For Kenny, where are the posts from all the suporters you claim you and Sidney have?

Anonymous said...

So now the count is up to 10 pro Sidney/Kenny 83 anti Sidney/Kenny. The differential is up to 73.

Kenny where are the posts from all the supporters yo claim to have?

Anonymous said...

Krnhyderal:

Here is something bout Canada's attitude towards liberated US slaves:

"The estimated 3,000 to 5,000 former slaves from the Chesapeake who fled to the British seeking their freedom met mixed fates. The majority of the slaves who did not enlist to fight were sent to Nova Scotia. More than 2,000 were left standing on the docks in Halifax in the early months of 1815, with no money and little clothing, and they shivered through their first winter in deplorable condition. Hundreds died of disease or poverty. Some scratched out lives as farmers or servants, eventually establishing themselves in communities where their descendants still live. Other former slaves went to the West Indies, where, it was alleged, some were sold back into slavery."

Vogel, Steve. Through the Perilous Fight: Six Weeks That Saved the Nation (Kindle Locations 6559-6564). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

the count is now 10 pro Kenny/Sidney 84 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Kenny, Kenny - Slaves were freed in America right after the American Revolution. I guess "conventional wisdom" doesn't recognize it.

And Canada has a well-documented history of ignoring its Vietnam Veterans. Glad to see you're following along with the "conventional wisdom" there as well.

Anonymous said...

10 pro Didney/Kenny 86 anti Disney/Kenny.

Kenhyderal Supporter said...

I’m proud to call kenhyderal my friend.

guillermo said...

Kenny,
It's important that you ty to be true to your feelings. So what if you're a racist? I'm sure there are many people here willing to forgive this racism. I've seen several posts to that effect.

guillermo said...

Kenny,
Do you realize what you're doing? You've managed to pick a fight with some 15 people here -- all this for a woman who's shown she's just not interested in you.
Try to do better.
Have you discussed this with your father? Your older brother?

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "Kenny, Kenny - Slaves were freed in America right after the American Revolution. I guess "conventional wisdom" doesn't recognize it"....... Slavery became illegal in Canada in all provinces in Canada in 1834. An Act to Prevent the further Introduction of Slaves and to limit the Term of Contracts for Servitude was passed in 1793.The children born in 1793, when the Act to Limit Slavery in Upper Canada took effect, turned 25 by 1818. Therefore, they were no longer slave property and their children were born free. However, a very small number of Black people — less than 50 — remained in bondage. In March 1824, in one of the last recorded sales of a slave in Upper Canada, Eli Keeler of Colborne sold 15-year-old Tom to William Bell in Thurlow (now Belleville). In his 1871 obituary, John Baker was recognized as the last surviving enslaved Black person born in Canada At the time of the American Civil War there were 4,000,000 slaves in 15 states. As far as the Viet Nam War there was no Canadian participation in Viet Nam Any Canadian Viet Nam Vets had joined the US Military and Canada had no responsibility to honor their service

kenhyderal said...

Guiowen said: "Incidentally, Mugabe resigned several months ago. I don't understand why you say racism (or anything else) is alive in his state"............I am aware that Mugabe was forced from power recently. He did practice racism against white farmers and settlers in the early days of his long autocratic rule.

kenhyderal said...

Guiowen said: "Didn't you tell us recently that things would change as soon as other (non Caucasian) races became a majority in America? That's a very racist comment"..........................Yes, when visible minority voters become the majority things will change because historically they tend to be more progressive and by a wide margin favor judicial reform, universal health care, sensible gun laws, campaign finance reform, fair electoral districting, and maybe even amending the archaic U.S. Constitution to eliminate the undemocratic Electoral College and the undemocratic Senate. For now the U.S. as usual, remains decades behind time. But hey, they do have the biggest military.

guiowen said...

Kenny,
You're still saying race will determine the way people act. That's very racist; don't deny it.
But don't worry: we'll forgive your racism if you stop whining.

guiowen said...

Kenny,
First you say racism is alive and well in Zimbabwe. Now you say it was actually alive 40 years ago. Which is it?

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "Kenny, Kenny - Slaves were freed in America right after the American Revolution. I guess "conventional wisdom" doesn't recognize it"....... Slavery became illegal in Canada in all provinces in Canada in 1834. An Act to Prevent the further Introduction of Slaves and to limit the Term of Contracts for Servitude was passed in 1793.The children born in 1793, when the Act to Limit Slavery in Upper Canada took effect, turned 25 by 1818. Therefore, they were no longer slave property and their children were born free. However, a very small number of Black people — less than 50 — remained in bondage. In March 1824, in one of the last recorded sales of a slave in Upper Canada, Eli Keeler of Colborne sold 15-year-old Tom to William Bell in Thurlow (now Belleville). In his 1871 obituary, John Baker was recognized as the last surviving enslaved Black person born in Canada At the time of the American Civil War there were 4,000,000 slaves in 15 states. As far as the Viet Nam War there was no Canadian participation in Viet Nam Any Canadian Viet Nam Vets had joined the US Military and Canada had no responsibility to honor their service."

Impressive, I admit. Explain the harsh treatment of liberated US slaves who arrived in Canada post War of 1812, the harsh treatment of indigenous peoples in Canada over a period of more than 100 years.

from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada_during_World_War_II:

Canada's security in WWII, especially after the fall of France depended upon the US.

"As far as the Viet Nam War there was no Canadian participation in Viet Nam Any Canadian Viet Nam Vets had joined the US Military and Canada had no responsibility to honor their service."

Why were Officer Bond required to honor Sidney'ds service of process when it was carried out imptoperly?

Anonymous said...

Kenhhyderal:

"Guiowen said: "Incidentally, Mugabe resigned several months ago. I don't understand why you say racism (or anything else) is alive in his state"............I am aware that Mugabe was forced from power recently. He did practice racism against white farmers and settlers in the early days of his long autocratic rule."

From https://www.history.com/topics/robert-mugabe:

"ROBERT MUGABE: THE ROAD TO TYRANNY
During the 1990s Mugabe was reelected twice, became a widower and remarried. In 1998 he sent Zimbabwean troops to intervene in the Democratic Republic of Congo’s civil war—a move many viewed as a grab for the country’s diamonds and valuable minerals.

In 2000 Mugabe organized a referendum on a new Zimbabwean constitution that would expand the powers of the presidency and allow the government to seize white-owned land. Groups opposed to the constitution formed the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), which successfully campaigned for a “no” vote in the referendum.

That same year, groups of individuals calling themselves “war veterans”—though many were not old enough to have been part of Zimbabwe’s independence struggle—began invading white-owned farms. Violence caused many of Zimbabwe’s whites to flee the country. Zimbabwe’s commercial farming collapsed, triggering years of hyperinflation and food shortages that created a nation of impoverished billionaires."

Mugabe was a self serving tyrant who, by acting in his own self interest, nearly ruined his country.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Guiowen said: "Didn't you tell us recently that things would change as soon as other (non Caucasian) races became a majority in America? That's a very racist comment"..........................Yes, when visible minority voters become the majority things will change because historically they tend to be more progressive and by a wide margin favor judicial reform, universal health care, sensible gun laws, campaign finance reform, fair electoral districting, and maybe even amending the archaic U.S. Constitution to eliminate the undemocratic Electoral College and the undemocratic Senate. For now the U.S. as usual, remains decades behind time. But hey, they do have the biggest military."

Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_of_Canada:

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Commons_of_Canada

The Canadian legislature acts just about the same way the US Congress. As is the case with the US Congress, the lower House outnumbers the upper house. The Lower house, just like the House of Representatives introduces legislation regarding finances, taxes.

You do not know history. The US COngress was set up that way so that the more populous areas of the country could not simply bully the less populous areas.

The US does not have the world's largest military.

From https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america. Total US military strength, active and ereserve, Army Navy Marine Corps Coast Guard is 2,363,675.

from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces. The Russian Army alone, active and reserve numbers 3513000

from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army. The Chinese Peoples Libeation Army alone numbers 4300000.

Why do you think you are credible when your so called facts come from your imagination?

Anonymous said...

Current score: pro Sidney/Kenny 9(of which 8 were posted by either Sidney or Kenny) Anti Sidney/Kenny 98. The differential is 89.

Sidney, Kenny, where are all those supporters you claim you have?

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

" Blogger kenhyderal said...

Guiowen said: "Didn't you tell us recently that things would change as soon as other (non Caucasian) races became a majority in America? That's a very racist comment"..........................Yes, when visible minority voters become the majority things will change because historically they tend to be more progressive and by a wide margin favor judicial reform"

The black voters of Durham put Nifong in as DA after Nifong accused Caucasian "scions of privilege" of raping Crystal. Nifobg had no proof of a crime and he had evidence after he made his public accusations of guilt that those he had accused were innocent. Said black voters of Durham voted for Nifong after he appeared at the community forum at NCCU and said he would prosecue in spite of the lack of evidence.

How does that show the black voters of Durham were progressive?

It shows no such thing. It shows only black on white racism.

How did Irwin Joyner, Professor of Law at NCCU show he was progressive when he advocated that the Lacrosse defendants be tried in Durham after all the guilt presumption, which happened thanks to Nifong, so they could be tried by a jury which would more likely return a guilty verdict?

Should Crystal have been tried in front of a jury which was more likely to bring in a guilty verdict?

The score will be, after this is posted, 9 pro Sidney/Kenny 90 anti Sidney/Kenny.

Anonymous said...

OOPS! I was wrong.

The score will be 9 pro Sidney/Kenny, 101 anti Sidney/Kenny.

This comment is definitely NOT pro Sidney/Kenny.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: :You do not know history. The US COngress was set up that way so that the more populous areas of the country could not simply bully the less populous areas"......................................................... What ism it about democracy you Americans don't understand? Should Wyoming's vote be able to balance California's? Canada's senate has no real power other then "sober second thought" . It's members are distinguished persons appointed, albeit politically, by the party in power to review, advise and suggest improvements to legislation with no concerns about having to get re-elected. Senates by their nature are non-democratic. Senates invite money into the political process. If I want to be a member of the legislative body I can knock on every door in my district and ask for their vote. If I want to be an elected senator for a state I have to spend multiple millions in advertising to get to be known and become beholden to my donors. Having an elected senate that can be of a different party and can thwart the will of the one man one vote democratically elected house leads to grid-lock and as in America unless both houses are of the same political stripe nothing gets done.

kenhyderal said...

Guiowen said: "First you say racism is alive and well in Zimbabwe. Now you say it was actually alive 40 years ago. Which is it?;.............................All that I was trying to suggest is where the majority and the power structure is of one race and the minority is of another like in post colonial Zimbabwe a black majority can be racist against a white minority but hey that can't apply in the U.S.A.

Anonymous said...

All states are equally represented in the US Senate. In the House of Representatives, or People's House, representation is based on population.

California does not get to impose it's will on Wyoming or Rhode Island.

kenhyderal said...

Let me give you an example in a 49/51 vote in the senate with California opposed and Wyoming for. When Wyoming casts there vote for they can thwart the will of peoples who outnumber them 74 times

A Lawyer said...

What in Sam Hill does the composition of the U.S. Senate have to do with Dr. Harr's failure to serve process in a lawful way, thereby sabotaging another of Mangum's lawsuits?

Stay on topic, folks.

#seetoo

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: :You do not know history. The US COngress was set up that way so that the more populous areas of the country could not simply bully the less populous areas"......................................................... What ism it about democracy you Americans don't understand? Should Wyoming's vote be able to balance California's?"

Suppose California wanted to annex Yellowstone Park? Suppose the issue was decided by a plebiscite in two states. California would get Yellowstone park. It is a hypothetical example, but it does show the potential dangers of unbridled, unrestrained democracy, You are the one who fails to understand.

"Canada's senate has no real power other then "sober second thought" . It's members are distinguished persons appointed, albeit politically, by the party in power to review, advise and suggest improvements to legislation with no concerns about having to get re-elected."

Canada's Senate has the power to reject a bill passed by the House of Commons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_of_Canada:

"As a matter of practice and custom, the Commons is the dominant chamber. The approval of both chambers is necessary for legislation and, thus, the Senate can reject bills passed by the Commons. Between 1867 and 1987, the Senate rejected fewer than two bills per year, but this has increased in more recent years". Do you understand your own government?

"Senates by their nature are non-democratic."

Your Canadian Senate may be. The US Senate is not. We are not perfect but no government is.

"Senates invite money into the political process. If I want to be a member of the legislative body I can knock on every door in my district and ask for their vote. If I want to be an elected senator for a state I have to spend multiple millions in advertising to get to be known and become beholden to my donors."

If you did not want that, run for the Senate as an independent, like Bernie Sanders.

"Having an elected senate that can be of a different party and can thwart the will of the one man one vote democratically elected house leads to grid-lock and as in America unless both houses are of the same political stripe nothing gets done."

Richard Nixon got a lot accomplished. Watergate notwithstanding, in spite of th Democrats controlling Congress. Gorge H. W. Bush got a lot accomplished under the same circumstances. Jimmy Carter had a Democratic congress, and Jimmy Carter is a truly great man which is more respect worthy than just being president. So far as accomplishments, he was not one øf our more effective presidents. When Bill Clinton was first elected, he had a Democratic Congress, and he met with rebuffs. Mr. Clinton tried to ram his agenda down the country's throat. In the mid terms after his election the Republicans took control of Congress.

Our system functions well, regardless of a Canadian black on whit racist who lives in Dubia, or wherever.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Guiowen said: "First you say racism is alive and well in Zimbabwe. Now you say it was actually alive 40 years ago. Which is it?;.............................All that I was trying to suggest is where the majority and the power structure is of one race and the minority is of another like in post colonial Zimbabwe a black majority can be racist against a white minority but hey that can't apply in the U.S.A."

Oh Yeah.

Then why was Nifong ble to get elected by stirring up black on white racism in Durham, playing on the false metanarrative that so called "scions of privilege" like to prey on black women because they can rape them with impunity, the only metanarrative in the Duke Rape Hoax, the one you espouse in your black in white racist guilt presumptio directed against the innocent Duke Lacrosse defenndants.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal(again showing he knows nothing):

"Let me give you an example in a 49/51 vote in the senate with California opposed and Wyoming for. When Wyoming casts there vote for they can thwart the will of peoples who outnumber them 74 times"

Invalid comment.

You seem ignorant that the other 50 senators who voted against the bill represent millions of people, probably several times the population of California. It would not be the state of Wyoming thwarting the will of the people of California.

What would you say if both California Senators voted with the Wyoming Senators? How would that be Wyoming thwarting the will of the people of California.

Our system is not perfect, as the last election shows. However you do not at all understand why our system is our system.

guillermo said...

Hey, good old Kenny,
Any news from South Africa?

Anonymous said...

I echo what A Lawyer said.

Sidney did not have Crystal's(actually his complaint properly served. That is the issue.

Kenny seems to think, because Sidney alleges, without proof, that Crystal was prosecuted in retaliation for the accusations of rape she made against the Duke defendants, the suits should go forward. If so, that is BS. There is and never was any proof that Crystal told the truth.

I say again, considering the number of lawsuits Sidney has filed, it is not credible that Sidney did not know how to effect valid service of process.

Which makes me think Sidney deliberately tried to effect service this way to set up the defendants for default and summary judgment. Just like Nifong wanted to convict the Lacrosse defendants by denying them a defense against the bogus charges. Sidney waned to get a summary judgment against the defendants by blocking their right to defend themselves.

Anonymous said...

The score is now 17 pro Sidney/Kenny, of which 16 were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 105 anti Sidney/Kenny, posted by multiple posters. The differential is now 89.

Sidney, Kenny, where are all those supporters you claim you have?

FakeKenhyderal said...

#seetoo

In the absence of Dr. Harr's posting the 4th Circuit's order on Mangum's motion for release and its decision on the habeas, I present you this.

Not much to it -- the relevant part states:

"We have independently reviewed the record and conclude that Mangum has not made the requisite showing. Accordingly, we deny Mangum’s motion for release, deny a certificate of appealability, deny leave to proceed in forma pauperis, and dismiss the appeal. We dispense with oral argument because the facts and legal contentions are adequately presented in the materials before this court and argument would not aid the decisional process."

So...There you go.

Anonymous said...

Correct Count(cointing this one):

Still 17 pro Sidney/Kenny, of which 16 were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 106 anti Sidney Kenny.

Sidney and Kenny where are all the supporters you claim to have?

JSwift said...

Interesting.

Sidney files a motion seeking Summary Judgment on the appeal and the motion for release after the court has already dismissed the appeal and the motion for release. That is not an effective use of time if Sidney's goal is actually achieving Mangum's release.

Similarly, Sidney's failure to properly serve the defendants in this case was almost certainly deliberate.

Sidney is an experienced litigant, who has filed more cases, both pro se and as a "lay" advisor, than many lawyers. He has followed (or approximately followed) the service rules previously. He even explained the difficulty he was having in serving Gabe Roth from Fix the Court in his libel suit. In this case, he obviously decided to test to see how far the court would let him deviate from the rules.

I have concluded that Sidney is a troll. Despite his claims, he is not actually seeking Mangum's release. He is trolling the readers on this blog, and he is trolling the Federal and state court system.

Kenny was the first to suggest that Sidney is a troll, describing him as "brilliant" on an earlier thread.

I thought Kenny was just trolling us at the time because no reasonable person could describe Sidney as "brilliant" for his ability to make effective arguments, medical career, legal analysis or anything else about this blog. Instead, Kenny was describing Sidney's skill as a master troll. Sidney has fooled the readers on this blog (or most of them) for almost a decade and he has forced the legal system to take him seriously, avoiding almost all sanctions for several years, even as he has called judges liars and impugned officers of the court in his filings.

Well done, Sidney! Well done!

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Anonymous said...

Udaman John D. Smith.

Anonymous said...

DISMISSED! The story of Sidney's life...

kenhyderal said...

John D said: "I have concluded that Sidney is a troll".....................Trolling who and why? The readers of his blog? The State Judicial System? Dr. Harr is the initiator and host of this blog. Most of those here are dedicated to the rehabilitation of the Duke Lacrosse Players and the discrediting of Crystal. Their almost desperate strategy is to attack all and everything that does not support the meta-narrative of Crystal as the predator and the poor Duke Lacrosse Lads as victims and to concede absolutely nothing no matter how small or inconsequential. They do this in Pavlovian knee-jerk fashion Troll is just one more of the myriad pejoratives they loosely hurl out.(racist, nazi, facist, troll, insincere, intellectually dishonest, rape fantasizer, jealous of those with more wealth and education, etc., etc.)

kenhyderal said...

A Lawyer said: "Stay on topic, folks"........................... I concur.
Posters such as Guiowen and the person I call Dr. Anonymous often derail the topic that's under discussion. I accept part of the blame by letting their outrageous posts bait me. Dr. Harr has the forbearance to ignore such things but my weakness is when personally attacked I retaliate. Despite this flaw, I am, in reality, a reasonable man.

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal:

"John D said: "I have concluded that Sidney is a troll".....................Trolling who and why? The readers of his blog? The State Judicial System? Dr. Harr is the initiator and host of this blog."

if Sidney is trolling anyone it is Crystal via his ineffective attempts to get her a pass for murdering Reginald Daye.

"Most of those here are dedicated to the rehabilitation of the Duke Lacrosse Players and the discrediting of Crystal."

The Duke Lacrosse players need no rehabilitation because they did nothing which required rehabilitation, They were falsely accused of a crime which never happened, and Kenny, you have conceded you can not provide factual proof that they did anything to Crystal.

"Their almost desperate strategy is to attack all and everything that does not support the meta-narrative of Crystal as the predator and the poor Duke Lacrosse Lads as victims and to concede absolutely nothing no matter how small or inconsequential."

Kenny, what evidence do you have to show that Crystal told the truth when she said she had been raped. So far the closest you have ever come to providing proof was your claim that you did not need proof because you trusted Crystal, which is light years away from providing proof. The only metanarrative in the Duke Rape Hoax was that Crystal had been raped.

They do this in Pavlovian knee-jerk fashion Troll is just one more of the myriad pejoratives they loosely hurl out.(racist, nazi, facist, troll, insincere, intellectually dishonest, rape fantasizer, jealous of those with more wealth and education, etc., etc.)"

The only one on this blog indulging in knee jerk pavlovian reflex activity is YOU, who refuse to PROVE PROVE PROVE. You can not prove so you are the one indulging in any metanarrative, the metanarative that Crystal had been raped, something you admit you can not prove. You do indulge in obsessing on believing, in the face of zero evidence that this woman you claim to like and respect had been raped. Indulging in such behavior does not indicate concern for anything but your own gratification. You do resent Caucasian(WIlliam Cohan's description)men who are more accomplished and better off than you are, and DENY DENY DENY on your part does not nullify that. You indulge in disseminating propaganda about the Duke rape hoax, a technique used to great extent by Nazi Germany, so HEIL KENNY.

Finally via the self evident fact that you believe that the Lacrosse players should not only be condemned solely on the basis of Crystal's word but also because they should have been presumed guilty and tried by a jury biased in favor of bringing in a guilty verdict, make it absolutely clear that you are the moral equivalent of the people who persecuted the Scottsboro boys.

So do not condemn the innocent Lacrosse defendants or their supporters that you, yourself have ade i manifest you are a guilt presuming racist.

JSwift said...

Kenny,

As I noted, you earlier insinuated that Sidney is a troll when you described him as "brilliant." I now believe you are correct.

I explained why I concluded Sidney is a troll. You failed to respond to my reasons, preferring merely to reject my conclusion.

Two questions:

1. Do you believe it is effective to file a motion for summary judgment after the dismissal of the related cases?
2. Do you believe Sidney's apparent decision to deliberately ignore the requirements for service is an an effective way to help Magnum?

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"A Lawyer said: "Stay on topic, folks"........................... I concur.
Posters such as Guiowen and the person I call Dr. Anonymous often derail the topic that's under discussion."

Kenny, on multiple occasions, and it began before the issue of the validity of the way Sidney tried to effect service of process. You did claim that the Lacrosse players had an obligation to prove their innocence. You did say that, if they had gone to trial the jury which would decide their fate was a jury of Crystal's peers. I asked you of you believe that Crystal should have had to prove her innocence, and if you believe Crystal's fate should be decided by a jury of Reginald Daye's peers. Your response has been DUCK DODGE DENY AVOID, EVADE. That is not exactly dealng with an issue.

"I accept part of the blame by letting their outrageous posts bait me. Dr. Harr has the forbearance to ignore such things but my weakness is when personally attacked I retaliate."

Bullshit!!! I say again, when confronted with an issue which does not agree with the metanarative you try to peddle, that Crystal had been raped by "scions of privilege"(if that is not a metanarrative, prove Crystal had been raped by said "scions of privilege"). I say again, DUCK DODGE DENY AVOID, EVADE.

If Sidney Harr had true forebarance, he would not be spending his time proclaiming the Innocent Lacrrosse players guilty. I call that promulgating a lie.

Again I say, rather than indulging in DUCK DODGE DENY AVOID, EVADE, prove the truth of your allegations.


"Despite this flaw, I am, in reality, a reasonable man."

Adolf Hitler beleived he was a reasonable man. HEIL KENNY.

Anonymous said...

So do not condemn the innocent Lacrosse defendants or their supporters that you, yourself have ade i manifest you are a guilt presuming racist.

The above line from March 14, 2018 at 4:30 PM should have read;

So do not condemn the innocent Lacrosse defendants or their supporters that you, yourself have made manifest you are a guilt presuming racist.

Anonymous said...

The score now is, 20 pro Sidney/Kenny, 18 of which have been posted by Kenny and Sidney,

113 anti Sidney/Kenny by multiple posters. Differential is now 93.

Kenny, Sidney, where are all the supporters you claim you have?



guiowen said...

Kenny,
Do you even know what a metanarrative is? How do you define the word?

guiowen said...

A Lawyer,
Let me explain. Kenny needs to make us think that the United States is a horrible country, which never gives justice to a poor black woman. He believes that the composition of the United States Senate is proof of this. So, for that matter, is the Electoral College. This allows him to scream at all of us. He feels good doing this.

Anonymous said...

Udaman g.

guiowen said...

By the way, do't forget that Kenny's "making a list, checking it twice". Hope you're all terrified.

A Lawyer said...

kenhyderal said:
A Lawyer said: "Stay on topic, folks"........................... I concur.

When I said that, I said that the topic was "Dr. Harr's failure to serve process in a lawful way, thereby sabotaging another of Mangum's lawsuits."

You haven't talked about that much, have you?

I mean, do you think Dr. Harr did serve process in a lawful manner? If so, please cite some support.
Or do you mean that Dr. Harr's failure to serve process will not have an impact on the lawsuit? If so, explain.
Or is it your view that Dr. Harr should be exempt from following the rules regarding service of process? If so, why? And what other rules should he be exempt from?
Or do you mean something else? Inquiring minds want to know.

kenhyderal said...

John D said: "1. Do you believe it is effective to file a motion for summary judgment after the dismissal of the related cases?
2. Do you believe Sidney's apparent decision to deliberately ignore the requirements for service is an an effective way to help Magnum?............................My opinion (1). When an innocent person you care about is falsely incarcerated you will not "throw in the towel" after setbacks. You will persist even though roadblocks are constantly thrown up at every juncture by a Justice System which will do anything to keep from acknowledging culpability for injustice. My opinion (2) I do not believe that Dr. Harr set out to deliberately effect an unacceptable service and I speculate neither do you. Like Dr. Anonymous's hypothetical all that has apparently happened is there is a cop-out for Ms. Bond to deny she has been informed. Just one more roadblock to deny justice and maintain the corrupt status quo in the, universally recognized as corrupt, U.S. Justice System that keeps it's poor and it;s minorities incarcerated more than most other nation including some of the the most brutal dictatorships

kenhyderal said...

@ A Lawyer: See my response to JohnD Smith

guiowen said...

Wonderful, Kenny!
You are really good at whining. But I guess we all knew that, long ago.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"John D said: "1. Do you believe it is effective to file a motion for summary judgment after the dismissal of the related cases?
2. Do you believe Sidney's apparent decision to deliberately ignore the requirements for service is an an effective way to help Magnum?............................My opinion (1). When an innocent person you care about is falsely incarcerated you will not "throw in the towel" after setbacks. You will persist even though roadblocks are constantly thrown up at every juncture by a Justice System which will do anything to keep from acknowledging culpability for injustice."

Hypocritical Response from someone who, Scottsboro fashion, believes 1)the Lacrosse defendants should have been presumed guilty solely on the word of Crystal; 2) The fate of the Lacrosse defendants, had they gone to trial, their fate should have been determined by a jury of Crystal's peers; 3) the Lacrosse defendants should have had to prove they were innocent. "My opinion (2) I do not believe that Dr. Harr set out to deliberately effect an unacceptable service" You are delusional "and I speculate neither do you." Personally I believe he did so he could nifong the defendants. "Like Dr. Anonymous's hypothetical all that has apparently happened is there is a cop-out for Ms. Bond to deny she has been informed." Kenny, advocate for justice NOT111 wants to deny Officer Bond her right to defend herself. "Just one more roadblock to deny justice" advocate for justice NOT!!! Kenny is again advocating denying due process to people of an ethnicity he dislikes., "and maintain the corrupt status quo universally recognized as corrupt, U.S. Justice System that keeps it's poor and it;s minorities incarcerated more than most other nation" The opinion of advocate for justice NOT!!!, Scottsboro persecutor clone Kenny is anything but universal, as the ratio of pro Kenny/anti Kenny posters on this blog shows. Kenny shows he is as delusionally megalomaniacal as Sidney. "including some of the the most brutal dictatorships". Says delusionally megalomaniacal guilt presuming racist Kenny who espouses the Nazi practice of, tell a lie, make it big, repeat it over and over until someone believes it. HEIL KENNY.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"@ A Lawyer: See my response to JohnD Smith"

A lawyer, please do and have a good laugh at Kenny's incredible stupidity and guilt presuming racism.

Anonymous said...


The score now is 23 pro Sidney/Kenny, 20 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 119 anti Sidney/Kenny posted by multiple posters.

Sidney, Kenny where are all the supporters you claim to have.

Kenny, explain how someone so far out of touch with reality as you knows what a universal opinion is



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JSwift said...

Kenny,

Thanks for your response.

I understand that you support Sidney's strategy of engaging in one futile gesture after another, all with zero chance of success. In other words, virtue signaling is of critical importance. The time required for these futile gestures makes it impossible to devote the necessary resources to what may actually help Magnum--conducting the legal research to identify cases that support his position. You engage in the same futile strategy, preferring to comment on a sparsely read blog than actually doing something to help.

You speculate that I do not believe that Sidney deliberately failed to comply with the rules for service. This is incorrect. I explained why I believe this failure was deliberate. No one who is as "brilliant" as you described Sidney could be unaware of requirements he has met repeatedly in the past.

I do not believe that you and Sidney are genuinely as stupid as you both pretend to be. For that reason, I have concluded that you both are trolls. I do not make that accusation "loosely" but have provided an explanation.

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Anonymous said...

Score: 23 pro Sidney/Kenny, 20 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 126 anti Kennt/Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Hey Kenny:

Suppose I sued you.

Suppose I post the text of my complaint on this blog which I know you frequent.

Is that valid service of process? No, even though I could show there was a greater probability that you were aware of the complaint than Officer Bond was aware of Sidney's complaint.

You know less than noting about justice. All you know is black on white racism.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

First, apologies for not contributing much to the comments recently, but I have been extremely busy working on sharlogs (a two-parter will be posted in the near future), non-lawyerly assisting Crystal Mangum, and letter writing... not to mention work on a secret project.

Second, it seems from some of the commenters that there is a question as to whether I appropriately served the Summons and Complaint upon the defendants in Mangum's Complaint for Malicious Prosecution. There's a story behind that which will be elucidated in a future sharlog.

Thirdly, I am more confident than ever that Mangum's release and exoneration is just over the horizon... so don't be surprised when it happens.

As you were.

Anonymous said...

Kenny:

I say you are a black on white racist.

Why? Because your attitude towards the innocent Lacrosse defendants(and you have conceded you have no evidence they are guilty, and the alleged statement about an anonymous lacrosse player is hearsay, not evidence), is the same kind of attitude of the Scottsboro persecutors towards the innocent defendants, the only difference being that the Scottsboro boys were black and the Lacrosse defendants are white.

Do you have to prove you are not a black on white racist? No.

However, all our attempts to rebut my evidence that you are amounts to, certain academics say black on white racism is not possible.

Score: 23 pro Sidney/Kenny, 20 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 128 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Nifong Supporter said...


JSwift said...
Interesting.

Sidney files a motion seeking Summary Judgment on the appeal and the motion for release after the court has already dismissed the appeal and the motion for release. That is not an effective use of time if Sidney's goal is actually achieving Mangum's release.

Similarly, Sidney's failure to properly serve the defendants in this case was almost certainly deliberate.

Sidney is an experienced litigant, who has filed more cases, both pro se and as a "lay" advisor, than many lawyers. He has followed (or approximately followed) the service rules previously. He even explained the difficulty he was having in serving Gabe Roth from Fix the Court in his libel suit. In this case, he obviously decided to test to see how far the court would let him deviate from the rules.

I have concluded that Sidney is a troll. Despite his claims, he is not actually seeking Mangum's release. He is trolling the readers on this blog, and he is trolling the Federal and state court system.

Kenny was the first to suggest that Sidney is a troll, describing him as "brilliant" on an earlier thread.

I thought Kenny was just trolling us at the time because no reasonable person could describe Sidney as "brilliant" for his ability to make effective arguments, medical career, legal analysis or anything else about this blog. Instead, Kenny was describing Sidney's skill as a master troll. Sidney has fooled the readers on this blog (or most of them) for almost a decade and he has forced the legal system to take him seriously, avoiding almost all sanctions for several years, even as he has called judges liars and impugned officers of the court in his filings.

Well done, Sidney! Well done!

John D. Smith
New York, NY

March 14, 2018 at 2:22 PM



Hah, JSwift!! You don't know what really happened regarding service of the Summons and Complaints to defendants in Mangum's Malicious Prosecution lawsuit.

Prepare to be flabbergasted!! The big reveal will come in an upcoming sharlog. Stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

Correction:

With this comment the score is Score: 23 pro Sidney/Kenny, 20 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 127 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

"JSwift said...
Interesting.

Sidney files a motion seeking Summary Judgment on the appeal and the motion for release after the court has already dismissed the appeal and the motion for release. That is not an effective use of time if Sidney's goal is actually achieving Mangum's release.

Similarly, Sidney's failure to properly serve the defendants in this case was almost certainly deliberate.

Sidney is an experienced litigant, who has filed more cases, both pro se and as a "lay" advisor, than many lawyers. He has followed (or approximately followed) the service rules previously. He even explained the difficulty he was having in serving Gabe Roth from Fix the Court in his libel suit. In this case, he obviously decided to test to see how far the court would let him deviate from the rules.

I have concluded that Sidney is a troll. Despite his claims, he is not actually seeking Mangum's release. He is trolling the readers on this blog, and he is trolling the Federal and state court system.

Kenny was the first to suggest that Sidney is a troll, describing him as "brilliant" on an earlier thread.

I thought Kenny was just trolling us at the time because no reasonable person could describe Sidney as "brilliant" for his ability to make effective arguments, medical career, legal analysis or anything else about this blog. Instead, Kenny was describing Sidney's skill as a master troll. Sidney has fooled the readers on this blog (or most of them) for almost a decade and he has forced the legal system to take him seriously, avoiding almost all sanctions for several years, even as he has called judges liars and impugned officers of the court in his filings.

Well done, Sidney! Well done!

John D. Smith
New York, NY

March 14, 2018 at 2:22 PM



Hah, JSwift!! You don't know what really happened regarding service of the Summons and Complaints to defendants in Mangum's Malicious Prosecution lawsuit.

Prepare to be flabbergasted!! The big reveal will come in an upcoming sharlog. Stay tuned."

Sidney in denial that he is flabbergasted. Anyone want to speculate on howlong wewill have to wait this time?

Score: 24 pro Sidney/Kenny, 21 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 128 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, put up or shut up. So far you have shown only that you are incapablr of either.

Score: 24 pro Sidney/Kenny, 21 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 129 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Nifong Supporter said...


By the way, I'd like to wish all viewers, commenters, and visitors a Happy Ides of March!

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you are trying to conceal that you do not know what really happened.

Score: 24 pro Sidney/Kenny, 21 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 129 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Score: 25 pro Sidney/Kenny, 22 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 129 anti Kenny/Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Correction:

Score: 24 pro Sidney/Kenny, 21 of which were posted by Sidney and Kenny, 136 anti Kenny/Sidney.

The differential is 112.

JSwift said...

Your count is in error.

My posts on this thread have all been pro-Kenny/Sidney. I have congratulated both on their master trolling skills.

John D. Smith
New York, NY

FakeKenhyderal said...

@Nifong Supporter "
Hah, JSwift!! You don't know what really happened regarding service of the Summons and Complaints to defendants in Mangum's Malicious Prosecution lawsuit.

Prepare to be flabbergasted!! The big reveal will come in an upcoming sharlog. Stay tuned."


Didn't you just detail what happened with the complaints in this very blog entry?

Don't tell me you left something out of the Motion for Default and Summary Judgment...

FakeKenhyderal said...

GS 1A-1, Rule 4 - North Carolina General Assembly:

(A) [You know, as in the very first one]Upon the filing of the complaint, summons shall be issued forthwith, and in any event within five days. The complaint and summons shall be delivered to some proper person for service. In this State, such proper person shall be the sheriff of the county where service is to be made or some other person duly authorized by law to serve summons.

Sid -- Why didn't you just give the documents to the Durham County sheriff's department for delivery?

Kenhyderal -- Why do you think Sid didn't follow this simple instruction?

Anonymous said...

161

Corrected count:

26 pro Sidney/Kenny, 21 of which posted by Sidney and Kenny,2 of which note Sid and Kenny's "master trolling skills", 135 anti Sidney/Kenny.

A Lawyer said...

I am more confident than ever that Mangum's release and exoneration is just over the horizon... so don't be surprised when it happens.

Reminds me of the routine from the old Rocky and Bullwinkle show:
Bullwinkle: Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
Rocky: But that trick never works.
Bullwinkle: This time for sure!

Anonymous said...

A Lawyer

Stop insulting Rocky and Bullwinkle.

Next thing you know you will insult Tom Slick, Gorge of the Jungle and Dudley Do Right by comparing them to Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, This would really flabbergast us:

Tell us the following, specifically tell us the true numbers.

How many times have you made these promises: Nifong's law license will be restored; Crystal will never go to trial if I have anything to say about it; the state has no case against Crystal and will not prosecute her; Crystal's release is imminent.

How many of those promises have you kept?

If you ever told us the true numbers, that is what would be flabbergasting because you, like your wacko-lyte Kenny, duck, dodge, deny, evade, avoid when confronted with the truth.

Anonymous said...

Since John D. Smith New York, NY

March 15, 2018 at 5:51 AM:

Sever(counting this one) anti Sidney/Kenny comments, zero pro Sidney/Kenny comments.

Anonymous said...

UdaUbes Pubes.

Anonymous said...

Kenny or Sidney or both continue to post anonymously to create the illusion that they have support.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"My opinion (2) I do not believe that Dr. Harr set out to deliberately effect an unacceptable service".

Have you ever heard of, Ignorance of the law is no excuse?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat:

"Ignorantia juris non excusat[1] or ignorantia legis neminem excusat[2] (Latin for "ignorance of the law excuses not"[1] and "ignorance of law excuses no one"[2] respectively) is a legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because one was unaware of its content."

From Anonymous March 12, 2018 at 9:39 AM:

https://www.serve-now.com/resources/process-serving-laws/north-carolina:

"North Carolina Process Serving Requirements

Upon the filing of the complaint, summons shall be issued forthwith and in any event within five days. The complaint and summons shall be delivered to some proper person for service. In this State, such proper person shall be the sheriff of the county where service is to be made or some other person duly authorized by law to serve summons. Outside this State, such proper person shall be anyone who is not a party and is not less than 21 years of age or anyone duly authorized to serve summons by the law of the place where service is to be made."

That Sidney might not have deliberately tried to evade the law regarding valid service of process is irrelevant.

The LAW regarding valid service of process in North Carolina is that a plaintiff must have the complaint and summons served on the defendant by the sheriff or someone else duly authorized by law.

Sidney admitted in Crystal's(actually his) motions for default and summary judgment the complaints were not validly served. You are arguing that someone as stupid as Sidney should get a pass on account of his stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Kenhydral:

If Justice for Crystal is, she should have her(actually Sidney's) suits decided by having the defendants declared in default and there should be a summary judgment in her favor, well, no one denied her that Justice but Sidney Harr and only Sidney Harr.

kenhyderal said...

John D. said" "My posts on this thread have all been pro-Kenny/Sidney. I have congratulated both on their master trolling skills".......................... A sarcastic man is a wounded man.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"John D. said" "My posts on this thread have all been pro-Kenny/Sidney. I have congratulated both on their master trolling skills".......................... A sarcastic man is a wounded man."

A black on white guilt presuming racist with the morals and ethics of a Scottsboro persecutor is a black on white guilt presuming racist with the morals and ethics of a Scottsboro persecutor.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

I do not resort to innuendo or insinuation when I name you " a black on white guilt presuming racist with the morals and ethics of a Scottsboro persecutor." I say it to the face you present on this blog.

Why?

You say you need no evidence that Crystal had been raped because you trust her. The Scottsboro persecutors trusted the false accusers of the Scottsboro boys.

You say that the Lacrosse defendants should have been tried before a jury biased against them, a jury of Crystal's peers.

The Scottsboro persecutors said the Scottsboro boys should have been tried before a jury biased against them.

Your only answer to what I name you is, some academics say black on white racism is not possible.

If those academics are like the black academics who were part of the gang of 88, that would be like Adolf Hiltler saying it is not possible that Nazis could mistreat and abuse the Jewish people of Germany.

So Kenny, HEIL KENNY, KEIL KENNY HEIL KENNY HEIL HEIL HEIL.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propaganda:

"the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person," or, "ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause" or "also a public action having such an effect".

Which describes perfectly your, Sidney's, Nifong's actions regarding the innocent Lacrosse players, specifically in the face of zero evidence that Crystal had been raped in the first place proclaiming the Lacrosse players guilty, in nifong's case concealong evidence tht they were in fact innocent.

Propaganda was utilized by the Nazis to promote their agenda.

So say again to your blog face,HRIL KRNNY HRIL KENNY HRIL KENNY HEIL HEIL HEIL

JSwift said...

Kenny responds to my congratulations: My posts on this thread have all been pro-Kenny/Sidney. I have congratulated both on their master trolling skills".......................... A sarcastic man is a wounded man.

My congratulations are sincere.

As I have discussed previously, your mystery rapist hypothesis is an excellent piece of trolling. As I have come to realize from your description of Sidney as "brilliant," Sidney is also a master troll, having fooled almost all of the readers on this blog for nearly a decade.

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

You like to throw around the term metanarrative.

The only metanarrative being thrown around on this blog is the mtanarrative that the people you nam "scions of privilege' and you mean white privilege, lust after black women and believe they can ravish black with impunity.

That kind of metanarrative is a type of propaganda, a tool the nazis used to push their agenda.

So let's have it again:

HEIL KENNY, KEIL KENNY HEIL KENNY HEIL HEIL HEIL.

kenhyderal said...

Dr. Anonymous said: " I say it to the face you present on this blog"....................Anonymously.

kenhyderal said...

JSwift said: "My congratulations are sincere"........... I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, John D

guillermo said...

Kenny,
Why do you insist on fighting? It's not good for you. You know you have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
If you don't believe me, ask your parents. Ask, perhaps, one of your superiors.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"Dr. Anonymous said: " I say it to the face you present on this blog"....................Anonymously."

STEW KENNY STEW KENNY STEW KENNY STEW KENNY STEW KENNY AND STEW STEW STEW AGAIN.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"JSwift said: "My congratulations are sincere"........... I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, John D"

That is only because you were incapable of climbing on the turnip truck in the first place.

Desconocido said...

Kenhyderal
Por favor ven a Durham. El viejo este, Sconnosciuto, insiste en que no va a soltar a tu amigo, el gordito Kilgo, si no vienes. Mientras tanto el gordito esta perdiendo la cabeza. Ya has visto lo que dice cuando logra llegar a un ordenador.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

I remain anonymous.

You remain a black on white guilt presuming racist with the morals and ethics of a Scottsboro persecutor.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:


Presuming black defendants guilty of rape solely on the word of white false accusers is unjust and racist.

Likewise it is unjust and racist to presume Caucasian defendants guilty of rape solely on the word of a black false accuser. I remind you all the evidence gathered in the case showed overwhelmingly Crystal had not been raped. You yourself have conceded you can present evidence that Crystal was raped.

Where are all the people who you say believe the DUke defendants are gulty? Why have they not posted on J4N?

Why has Kilgo's anonymousLacrosse player not come forward after 12 years? I know how you speculate, but your speculation establishes nothing.

And your three different accounts of how kilgo supposedly told you about n anonymous Lacrosse player suggests, if anything, that you fabricated the whole story.

Anonymous said...

Correction for Kenhyderal:

You yourself have conceded you CAN NOT present evidence that Crystal was raped.

kenhyderal said...

There is evidence, from which I conclude she has been raped. I will once again present it. DNA extracted from sperm unexplained by Crystal's consensual sexual history was found.(FACT) DNA from her reported sexual history was found (FACT). A white exudate which Dr. Manley assumed to be semen was found on Crystal's person when she was examined. (FACT) DNA was found consistent with Player Evans on Crystal's broken fingernail (FACT) Now I know you can come up with different explanations for these facts other than Crystal's claim of rape. These are your OPINIONS. For the facts you may present. I, likewise can come up with alternate explanations for them, my (OPINION)

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,

What do you mean by "unexplained by Crystal's consensual sexual history"? You know very well that none of her customers were tested for DNA. One, I gather, was asked, but refused; Mike Nifong, who presumably knew what he was doing, decided not to embarrass her other customers.
So don't be DISINGENUOUS. (a word you once loved to use)
Don't think anyone here falls for your stupid tricks. Let me repeat something I once said: I realize you're a master debater, and you probably won lots of debates, back in high school, with your tricks. But you're not in high school anymore, and none of us is interested in your cute tricks.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
As for "consistent with Evans on Crystal's fingernail", I once told you that if Crystal had even touched 40 men during the previous 4 days, there was a 55% probability that at least one of them would have a similar DNA. Maybe you don't understand probability theory, but I do. If you do understand the theory, then you're just trying to lie with statistics.

guiowen said...

Dr. Manley ASSUMED that the white exudate found on Crystal was semen. In fact she never tested it for that.

Please don't think you can snow us with your avalanche of assumptions. We're not buying it.

Anonymous said...

More Nifongian activity from Kenhyderal, specifically, look only at the part of the picture you like and ignore and suppress all the rest. Kenny does the equivalent of looking only at an elephant's tail, ignoring the rest, and declaring there is only evidence that shows only that the elephant is a small skinny creature.

"There is evidence, from which I conclude she has been raped. I will once again present it. DNA extracted from sperm unexplained by Crystal's consensual sexual history was found.(FACT)"

There is factual evidence that says said DNA was not deposited at the party, no semen found on the rape kit materials taken within hours of the party, rape kit materials testing negative for Alkaline Phosphatase, a marker of semen, the presence of which is presumptive evidence for semen. There is NO factual evidence that said DNA was deposited at the party.

"DNA from her reported sexual history was found (FACT)."

How does this establish as fact that the UNIDENTIFIED male DNA found on Crystal was deposited at the party.

"A white exudate which Dr. Manley assumed to be semen was found on Crystal's person when she was examined. (FACT)"

Also a fact that Semen is not an exudate. Also a fact that other events can leave a whitish fluid in a vagina, e.g. a fungal infection. Also a fact that no wet mount was done on the fluid, a simple, low tech procedure to identify motile sperm which, if present, would have identified the fluid as semen. Again, the failure to find evidence of semen on the rape kit materials is in and of itself evidence that the white fluid was not semen. Regarding the Reginald Daye murder case, should the prosecution have assumed the blood found on the knife, and that was the only knife on which blood was found, was Reginald Daye's blood or should it have been documented by scientific testing that it was Reginald Daye's blood. Why should that "white exudate", which could have been something other than semen, have been assumed to be Semen and not documented as Semen by valid testing?

"DNA was found consistent with Player Evans on Crystal's broken fingernail (FACT)"

It is also a fact that while the DNA was CONSISTENT with David Evans' DNA, said CONSISTENCY was not near consistent enough to say it was a MATCH for David Evans. It is also a fact that Crystal alleged her assailants had deposited their DNA on her. The only DNA found on her did not match either David Evans or Reade Seligmann or Collin FInnerty, which is evidence these men could not have raped Crystal.

"Now I know you can come up with different explanations for these facts other than Crystal's claim of rape. These are your OPINIONS."

The actual situation is that you willfully do not look at ALL the facts and when one considers ALL the facts, ALL the facts add up to zero evidence of rape.

"For the facts you may present. I, likewise can come up with alternate explanations for them, my (OPINION)"

No, what you are doing, Nifong style, is presenting only what you want to present and ignoring and suppressing what you do not want to present. Do you think the jury in the Reginald Daye should have considered only what the prosecution wanted them to see and not what the Defense wanted them to see?

That does not add up to an alternative explanation but to guilt presumption, and since it comes from KENNY who advocates that the Caucasian Lacrosse players should have been condemned only on the word of Crystal, condemned only on only what the prosecution wanted the jury to see, it is black on white racist guilt presumption.

To get back to the Elephant metaphor, Kenny's alternative explanation is like saying it is a valid alternative evaluation of the size of an elephant to only examine its tail.

What we have here is someone who has never fallen off the Turnip truck only because he was unable to climb on it in the first place.

Anonymous said...

FACT -- DNA from her reported sexual history was found.

FACT -- You do not know if she reported all of her sexual history.

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal continues to lie when he posts messages at this blog site.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal does not lie -- t's just that things appear out of context to him.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "Anonymous said : "kenhyderal continues to lie when he posts messages at this blog site".................................... Give us an example..

guiowen said...

Kenny,
Remember that time in 2016 when I recalled a conversation we had had in 2015 and you said I was making it up? But of course you weren't lying: it was just that it was out of context.

Anonymous said...

Krnhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "Anonymous said : "kenhyderal continues to lie when he posts messages at this blog site".................................... Give us an example.."

Kenhyderal says Crystal was the victim of a metanarrative put out by the Lacrosse defense to discredit her. The only metenarrative in the Duke Rape HOAX that the so called "scions of privilege raped Crystal.

Kenhyderal says there were unidentified rapists at the party, and there is and never was any factual evidence to show there were.

Kenhyderal says he is not a black on white eacist in the face of attitudes he has expressed which are the dame kinds of attitudes voiced by the persecutors of the Scottsboto boys.

Krnhyderal denied he ever said that he did not need proof that Crystal had been taped, until I copied and pasted the comment in which he made the claim.

Kenhyderal, trying to explain away the FACT that Nifong had indicted for and charged with rape men who could not have perpetrated the alleged rape by saying Nifong did not have them chatged with rape but with sexual asssault and kidnapping.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

"There is evidence, from which I conclude she has been raped. I will once again present it. DNA extracted from sperm unexplained by Crystal's consensual sexual history was found.(FACT)"

Since when is what you conclude something which established the alleged rape happened?

Like your mentor Sidney, whom you blasphemously compared to Dr. Martin Luther King, and corrupt Nifong who tried to deprive the defendants of their right to defend themselves, you seem to think your conclusions, drawn not from All of the facts but from SOME selected facts of the case trumps the law and establishes guilt.

Anonymous said...

Knhyderal:

The foulest lie you promulgate is the lie that Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party.

Anonymous said...

Kenhyderal:

You and your mentor Sidney who, like you is a black on white racist who resents Caucasian people who are better off and more accomplished than he is, like to bandy about the term "selective justice"

Your concept of justice towards certain Caucasian(William Cohan's description) is, select out from the totality of facts only those facts which you conclude are incriminating and denying and ignoring the rest.

If that is not selective justice for said Caucasian defendants, then what is it?

If selective justice directed against black defendants is injustice, then explain why you deny that selective justice directed against Caucasian defendants is not.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Correction for Kenhyderal:


If selective justice directed against black defendants is injustice, then explain why you BELIEVE that selective justice directed against Caucasian defendants is not.

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