Prince Humperdinck said... Did I read this correctly?
You sent this questionnaire to the NC OCME and expect someone to complete it and send it back to you?
Please tell me this isn’t your plan to get CGM out of prison by Christmas.
November 27, 2022 at 6:16 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
Yes, you read it correctly, and yes, I believe that it is part of the plan to get Crystal freed by Christmas. Keep in mind that the state's medical examiner produced the autopsy report responsible for Mangum being convicted and imprisoned. Dr. Wecht and I believe that the autopsy report produced by the state's M.E. Dr. Clay Nichols is fraudulent, however, it appears that our opinions are irrelevant. If the State's review's conclusion is similar to ours, then it cannot be argued that its conclusion is irrelevant.
I would like you to take the questionnaire and see how your answers compare with those of Dr. Wecht.
Anonymous Anonymous said... Why do you want random people to answer questions that begin with “The NC Autopsy Review Board finds that:”?
No one that reads this blog has any idea what the autopsy review board thinks about Mangum and the death of Reginald Daye.
Besides, the only people who are going to answer this 100% the way you want is you and Kenny
November 27, 2022 at 6:33 AM
Hey, Anony.
Thanks for pointing that out to me. I obviously sent the version that was specifically drafted to be sent to the State. The version I intended to send out did not include that. I will try to substitute the corrected version as soon as I can... but the questionnaire can still be used.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP! IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!
Anony brought to my attention the affirmatives listed in the blog site were the ones intended for the State and not the ones intended for the public. I have the corrected version and will hopefully be able to upload it within a matter of hours... realistically about six or seven hours.
Anyway, those who submitted on the confusing Twenty Affirmatives currently posted will be able to re-submit on the new version once it is uploaded.
Apologies for posting the wrong version and gratitude to Anony for bringing it to my attention.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP! IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Have been having trouble accessing my domain account, ergo, I have not been able to switch the appropriate set of twenty affirmatives for the one specified for the State's autopsy review panel. The one currently on site is extremely confusing and I apologize for incorrectly uploading it. Hopefully the corrected version will be uploaded today.
Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said... “I believe that it is part of the plan to get Crystal freed by Christmas.…”
You believe it’s part of the plan? Who’s plan is this?
And when the NC OCME ignores this document, then what?
November 27, 2022 at 12:50 PM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
I appreciate your doubts that the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner will comply with responding to the affirmatives, but I have reason and assurances to believe that it will.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP! IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
I just installed the proper set of Affirmatives to replace the misleading one that was in its place. The prior misleading affirmatives asked the questionnaire-taker to ascertain how the State's Autopsy Review Board would respond to the affirmatives, which was confusing and not my intent. The current set of twenty affirmatives is what I initially intended for general public use.
kenhyderal's survey was the first, and only one received from a commenter as of the last time I checked. Unfortunately he filled out the confusing version, so almost all of his responses were "Unsure" with regards to how the State's Autopsy Review Board would respond. Again, apologies for my foul-up... and gratitude for bringing it to my attention.
Prince Humperdinck said... "...but I have reason and assurances to believe that it will."
You apparently had reason and assurances thet CGM would be out of jail by Thanksgiving.
Let's say for the sake of argument they actually DO complete your little questionnaire.
Then what?
What if the results they provide are not what you expect, and they just select "Disagree" to every question?
November 28, 2022 at 9:50 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
If the NC Office of the Chief Medical Examiner selects "No Disagree" to all or most of the affirmatives, then that will reflect on that individual as lacking integrity. These twenty questions basically re-affirm facts, so there really should be no discrepancy between responses by the State and by Dr. Cyril Wecht. There are clearly no discrepancies between my responses and those of Dr. Wecht.
Prince H., what I would be of interest to see is your responses to the twenty affirmatives and how they compare to those of Dr. Wecht. Remember to include an e-mail address and to respond to all twenty questions to assure submission. Welcome your comments, also, regarding the affirmatives.
Kenhyderal- Sid stated that you had “filled out the confusing version, so almost all of his responses were "Unsure" with regards to how the State's Autopsy Review Board would respond..”
That was what @ Anonymous 11--29-22 4:38 was referencing.
Sid can't answer the question "What is the next step.."?
Which is why CGM needs a lawyer, not some wannabe who can't bother going to either the NCCU or Duke law libraries to research relevant case law (both are open to the public, according to their websites).
...Let alone speak to his good friend, James Coleman, about what his next steps should be.
There is no "what's the next step" for Sid. There needs to be a Court filing for anything to happen, and a legit one, not the nonsense he's filing in the wrong courts. Or an agreement with the DA. He has none of that.
This is just his continued emotional abuse of Crystal where he pretends he is helping but is really doing all he can to make sure she stays in prison and has to deal with him.
There is no "what's the next step" for Sid. There needs to be a Court filing for anything to happen, and a legit one, not the nonsense he's filing in the wrong courts. Or an agreement with the DA. He has none of that.
Sid’s admitted to going on Duke’s campus multiple times already. You’d think getting CGM pertinent legal information would be reasonable grounds for doing it again.
Anonymous said... Sid’s admitted to going on Duke’s campus multiple times already. You’d think getting CGM pertinent legal information would be reasonable grounds for doing it again.
December 4, 2022 at 11:19 AM
Hey, Anony.
For the record, I went to Durham's Duke University Hospital to pick up Crystal's ER record for Daily Beast writer Justin Glawe, who stated he needed the 2006 records for an article about Crystal's murder conviction. A disparaging article was written about Mangum by another writer which did not cover the truths of Mangum's innocence.
I do not know what legal information is available at Duke University that would be of help to Crystal Mangum. Can you enlighten me?
Note: I also went to Duke University Hospital in Raleigh to visit a dear friend who was hospitalized for cancer surgery. Those are the only visits I made to Duke property since the April 14, 2010 kidnapping attempt.
Dr. Caligari said... There is no "what's the next step" for Sid. There needs to be a Court filing for anything to happen, and a legit one, not the nonsense he's filing in the wrong courts. Or an agreement with the DA. He has none of that.
Exactly so.
December 4, 2022 at 10:43 AM
Hey, Dr. Caligari.
I tried for more than two years to get a review of Dr. Nichols' autopsy report... was ignored by DHHS and DOJ, and the Durham D.A. Satana Deberry. The lawsuit filed by Mangum resulted in a review that is currently underway.
Dr. Caligari, have you filed out the affirmative questionnaire? Dr. Wecht filled it out. So has kenhyderal.
Has the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner responded to your survey? If not, what is the next step you will take? Christmas is almost here.
December 1, 2022 at 9:48 AM
Hey, Nifong double supporter,
I do not think the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner is going to fill out the affirmatives. I think they are going to work with the DOJ to produce a report that will omit critical events (i.e., the errant esophageal intubation of Daye, etc.) and conclude something simplistic like, "Mangum stabbed Daye so she is responsible for his death." If the NC OCME and DOJ were interested in objectively reviewing Dr. Nichols' autopsy report, they would have done it without Mangum having to file a lawsuit in Federal Court to compel them to conduct a review. I do not believe the State will work objectively and in good faith. Dr. Wecht's report and affirmatives are far more reliable than the state's.
Anonymous Anonymous said... Sid can't answer the question "What is the next step.."?
Which is why CGM needs a lawyer, not some wannabe who can't bother going to either the NCCU or Duke law libraries to research relevant case law (both are open to the public, according to their websites).
...Let alone speak to his good friend, James Coleman, about what his next steps should be.
December 2, 2022 at 9:08 AM
Hey, Anony.
Crystal Mangum had plenty of NC State Bar-accredited lawyers and they allowed her to be convicted of murder in a case in which no crime was committed.
And, I would not involve James Coleman in Mangum's case as that would not be a good move for him professionally. With hubris, Duke University holds grudges as is evidenced by its treatment of Crystal Mangum and me.
"I would not involve James Coleman in Mangum's case as that would not be a good move for him professionally..."
A few facts about James Coleman: He was the primary member of serial killer Ted Bundy's last defense team.
He has worn numerous awards and accolades in his various position at Duke Law School.
Coleman, as director of the Duke the Wrongful Convictions Clinic and faculty advisor for the Innocence Project has succeeded in exonerating a number of former inmates
A. I won't bother listing honors and awards, but let's just say he's untouchable by Duke Law School regardless of whom Wrongful the Convictions Clinic or Innocence Project represent. He's not the least bit worried about getting involved with a case as it would pertain to him professionally (see his work with regard to the Duke Lacrosse Case).
B. I think YOU"RE affraid to approach him about CGM, because you're afraid he will (justifiably) turn you down, for any of a number of reasons.
Prove me wrong -- reach out to Dr. James Coleman and let us know his response.
Prince Humperdinck said... "I would not involve James Coleman in Mangum's case as that would not be a good move for him professionally..."
A few facts about James Coleman: He was the primary member of serial killer Ted Bundy's last defense team.
He has worn numerous awards and accolades in his various position at Duke Law School.
Coleman, as director of the Duke the Wrongful Convictions Clinic and faculty advisor for the Innocence Project has succeeded in exonerating a number of former inmates
A. I won't bother listing honors and awards, but let's just say he's untouchable by Duke Law School regardless of whom Wrongful the Convictions Clinic or Innocence Project represent. He's not the least bit worried about getting involved with a case as it would pertain to him professionally (see his work with regard to the Duke Lacrosse Case).
B. I think YOU"RE affraid to approach him about CGM, because you're afraid he will (justifiably) turn you down, for any of a number of reasons.
Prove me wrong -- reach out to Dr. James Coleman and let us know his response.
December 5, 2022 at 6:59 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
I have just e-mailed Professor Coleman with an attached copy of your December 5th comment and links to the Twenty Affirmatives questionnaire form and a link to the questionnaire form filled out by Dr. Cyril Wecht.
I do not anticipate a response, but if one is forthcoming, I will definitely make an announcement of such.
By the way, have you submitted a completed questionnaire?
Anonymous said... "I do not know what legal information is available at Duke University that would be of help to Crystal Mangum. Can you enlighten me?"
You're the one that complains about "why a layperson ....in a ...lawsuit should not have access to the law library"
Are you admitting now even with access to a law library, you can't help CGM unless someone tells you how?
And you still hasn't identified his next step.
Why not?
December 5, 2022 at 7:08 AM
Hey, Anony.
I believe it is dangerous for me set foot on Duke University property, so I will not even attempt to gain access to its law library. Likewise, I have not set foot on NC General Assembly property since its police officers were sicced on me years ago.
"I believe it is dangerous for me set foot on Duke University property..."
Then you can't complain about not having a law library available, can you?
"By the way, have you submitted a completed questionnaire?"
I won't bother answering your questionnaire because it doesn't matter whether I do or not. My supposition is that Dr. Coleman will feel the same way. Why bother Dr. Coleman with your questionnaire, when you could ask him hard questions, like what would it take to get the Innocence Project to look at CGM's case?
How about you post your e-mail to Professor Coleman "with an attached copy of my December 5th comment and links to the Twenty Affirmatives questionnaire form and a link to the questionnaire form filled out by Dr. Cyril Wecht."
Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said... "I believe it is dangerous for me set foot on Duke University property..."
Then you can't complain about not having a law library available, can you?
"By the way, have you submitted a completed questionnaire?"
I won't bother answering your questionnaire because it doesn't matter whether I do or not. My supposition is that Dr. Coleman will feel the same way. Why bother Dr. Coleman with your questionnaire, when you could ask him hard questions, like what would it take to get the Innocence Project to look at CGM's case?
How about you post your e-mail to Professor Coleman "with an attached copy of my December 5th comment and links to the Twenty Affirmatives questionnaire form and a link to the questionnaire form filled out by Dr. Cyril Wecht."
I'd like to read it.
December 6, 2022 at 1:14 PM
If Professor Coleman fills out the Affirmatives, then I'll post my e-mail that prodded him into responding.
Regarding a law library, I would not venture on Duke University property in order to visit its law library. At the present, I am not in want of a law library... I merely want the NC Office of the Chief Medical Examiner to merely respond to the twenty affirmatives.
"If Professor Coleman fills out the Affirmatives, then I'll post my e-mail that prodded him into responding."
I want to see the email now.
I want assurance that my words weren't taken out of context, and if they were, I want both notification sent to Dr. Coleman and an apology.
In the future, let ME know before you copy my comments then send them to a 3rd party.
Since you don't have my contact information (nor will you), the correct action is to post the communication here so it can be validated before being sent.
Sid's reading the comments, since he's approving them.
Unfortunately, he's not responding to either Price Humperdinck's request to post the email written to Jim Coleman , nor is he responding to requests on his "next steps" to free Crystal Mangum following this questionnaire.
Not posting the email containing the prince's comments is unfortunate -- as the prince deserves to know whether his words were used in a manner other than those he meant.
Dr. Harr complains about so-called "wrongs" (like a newspaper referring to him as a "Durham man"), but fails to see when his own actions are...inadequate.
I've honestly no idea what his expectation is for this questionnaire document. I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I also honestly believe the following:
Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are.
Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas.
Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I wouldn't claim to be a "true legal expert," but I did practice law for 42 years before my retirement, and I agree with these statements.
I also honestly believe the following: Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are. Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas. Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
Canadians wait over 7 times longer to see a medical specialist, obtain diagnostic procedures, or undergo surgery than Americans.
The average wait time in Canada for these procedures is 27.4 weeks. In the US, the wait time is 26 days.
Do you know what the difference between 26 days and 27.4 weeks is for a person in dire need of seeing a specialist, obtaining a diagnosis or getting surgery? Life and death.
Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said... "If Professor Coleman fills out the Affirmatives, then I'll post my e-mail that prodded him into responding."
I want to see the email now.
I want assurance that my words weren't taken out of context, and if they were, I want both notification sent to Dr. Coleman and an apology.
In the future, let ME know before you copy my comments then send them to a 3rd party.
Since you don't have my contact information (nor will you), the correct action is to post the communication here so it can be validated before being sent.
December 7, 2022 at 9:41 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
I am in no rush to publish the e-mail I sent to Professor James Coleman. I might upload it later this week, as my focus is on getting Crystal freed before Christmas. I can give you assurances that your comment was not taken out of context as I did nothing more than refer to it in its unchanged totality.
Because you requested that I consult Professor Coleman, I do not understand why you would demand that I let you know that I am doing what you asked of me. Sans your comment, I never would have e-mailed Professor Coleman.
Anonymous said... You have received a total of four responses.
You still haven't identified your next step.
Why is that?
December 7, 2022 at 10:45 AM
Hey, Anony.
Clearly for what I am waiting is for the Chief Medical Examiner to fill out the twenty affirmatives and return them to me. I do have plans regarding what to do with the responses, but there is no benefit for me to explain my plans without first being able to enact them.
dhall said... Sid's reading the comments, since he's approving them.
Unfortunately, he's not responding to either Price Humperdinck's request to post the email written to Jim Coleman , nor is he responding to requests on his "next steps" to free Crystal Mangum following this questionnaire.
Not posting the email containing the prince's comments is unfortunate -- as the prince deserves to know whether his words were used in a manner other than those he meant.
Dr. Harr complains about so-called "wrongs" (like a newspaper referring to him as a "Durham man"), but fails to see when his own actions are...inadequate.
I've honestly no idea what his expectation is for this questionnaire document. I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I also honestly believe the following:
Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are.
Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas.
Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
December 12, 2022 at 6:57 AM
Hey, dhall.
It is my preference to let people to whom I send correspondence to have the opportunity to respond before I consider publicly posting that correspondence. Professor Coleman has had the opportunity to reply so, time permitting, I will post my e-mail to him later this week. Delay in my actions and replies are often due to time constraints as my priorities are related to getting Crystal freed by Christmas.
Regarding the questionnaire, it is comprised of twenty affirmatives. Affirmatives, legally speaking, are averments that facts are true. Like depositions and interrogatories, they are part of discovery, to my understanding. So, all I am asking of the Chief Medical Examiner is to confirm or deny facts related to Mangum's case. Dr. Cyril Wecht did. It is my belief that Dr. Aurelius, the Chief Medical Examiner, does not want to address the affirmatives.
Also, keep in mind that I have not found an attorney willing to work with Mangum on her case. Besides, her past attorneys who represented her allowed her to be convicted of a crime that did not occur. That would not have happened had I been representing her at trial. Her post-conviction attorneys sabotaged her case, as well.
Dr. Caligari said... I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I wouldn't claim to be a "true legal expert," but I did practice law for 42 years before my retirement, and I agree with these statements.
I also honestly believe the following: Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are. Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas. Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
Probably all true as well.
December 13, 2022 at 9:14 AM
Hey, Dr. Caligari.
As mentioned in my previous comment, the questionnaire basically consists of twenty affirmatives... part of discovery. I am no legal expert either, but I believe when a party is presented with a set of affirmatives... or interrogatories, it is incumbent upon it to respond to them.
The set of twenty affirmatives was first presented to the State in an e-mail sent on October 24, 2022. As of today's date, December 14, 2022, the Chief Medical Examiner has yet to answer them. Dr. Cyril Wecht completed the twenty affirmatives on November 18, 2022, the day he received them and sent them back to me that same day.
I have been waiting for the completion of affirmatives by the State... vital to the release of Ms. Mangum. The State is dragging its foot... in essence it doesn't want to fill out the affirmatives. Crystal Mangum could have easily been released from custody by Thanksgiving had the State taken the time to complete the form within a week or two after receiving it.
Once I receive the affirmatives, you will become aware of my next steps.
Anonymous Anonymous said... Any movement on the Mangum v. Eddie Buffaloe grounds for rehearing en banc?
What about the Mangum v. Kinsley case?
The last documents filed by CGM were filed over 3 months ago.
December 14, 2022 at 6:35 AM
Hey, Anony.
The case with the Secretary of Department of Public Safety Eddie Buffaloe was a Habeas Petition case, which you correctly referenced as being with the Fourth Circuit Appellate Court awaiting a ruling on an en banc rehearing, is still awaiting an outcome on that decision.
In the Kinsley case, Mangum agreed to a Stipulation to Dismiss her case in exchange for the State agreeing to provide a written report in review of the Dr. Nichols autopsy report on Reginald Daye. Mangum was given assurances that by accepting this proposal offered by the State, the final report would be issued much more expeditiously. As part of this process, the State agreed to respond to the affirmatives... but to date the topic of the affirmatives has been avoided by the State like the plague.
It is MY preference that I be told when my comments here are used in correspondence outside of this blog, and that I be given a copy of that correspondence BEFORE it is sent to a 3rd party to confirm my words aren't being taken out of context.
Since you never bothered telling me, it's only fair that you show me that correspondence, and what comments of mine were used in your correspondence.
At this point your assurance (like your past assurances that CGM would be out of prison by X date), mean nothing to me. They can't be trusted.
Do you think it's OK for use to use your or Kenhyderal's comments in correspondence neither of you are included in? Does Kenhyderal?
According to you, there are apparently 2 different provisions in the so-called "stipulation to dismiss" - one for the state to provide a written review of the Nichols Autopsy report, the other for the state to respond to the affirmatives.
When I look at the history of this case, Mangum filed the Motion to dismiss the case in October, the stipulation of dismissal came from Kody Kinsley (not Crystal Mangum) in early November. I find it odd that Kinsley would include the "respond to affirmatives" stipulation in his filing, and I don't see any subsequent filings other than the order closing the case. (which renders Mangum's motion to dismiss as moot).
Why haven't you posted either Mangum's motion to dismiss or Kinsley's stipulation of dismissal?
If agreeing to respond to the affirmatives aren't in the stipulation from Kinsley, and the court clerk has been told to close this case, what makes you think they'll respond to your questionnaire?
I'm a senior citizen who believes that the state of North Carolina has harshly, excessively, and unjustly treated former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong.
90 comments:
Did I read this correctly?
You sent this questionnaire to the NC OCME and expect someone to complete it and send it back to you?
Please tell me this isn’t your plan to get CGM out of prison by Christmas.
Why do you want random people to answer questions that begin with “The NC Autopsy Review Board finds that:”?
No one that reads this blog has any idea what the autopsy review board thinks about Mangum and the death of Reginald Daye.
Besides, the only people who are going to answer this 100% the way you want is you and Kenny
Sid,
Thanksgiving was three days ago.
There are 28 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Prince Humperdinck said...
Did I read this correctly?
You sent this questionnaire to the NC OCME and expect someone to complete it and send it back to you?
Please tell me this isn’t your plan to get CGM out of prison by Christmas.
November 27, 2022 at 6:16 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
Yes, you read it correctly, and yes, I believe that it is part of the plan to get Crystal freed by Christmas. Keep in mind that the state's medical examiner produced the autopsy report responsible for Mangum being convicted and imprisoned. Dr. Wecht and I believe that the autopsy report produced by the state's M.E. Dr. Clay Nichols is fraudulent, however, it appears that our opinions are irrelevant. If the State's review's conclusion is similar to ours, then it cannot be argued that its conclusion is irrelevant.
I would like you to take the questionnaire and see how your answers compare with those of Dr. Wecht.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why do you want random people to answer questions that begin with “The NC Autopsy Review Board finds that:”?
No one that reads this blog has any idea what the autopsy review board thinks about Mangum and the death of Reginald Daye.
Besides, the only people who are going to answer this 100% the way you want is you and Kenny
November 27, 2022 at 6:33 AM
Hey, Anony.
Thanks for pointing that out to me. I obviously sent the version that was specifically drafted to be sent to the State. The version I intended to send out did not include that. I will try to substitute the corrected version as soon as I can... but the questionnaire can still be used.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!
Anony brought to my attention the affirmatives listed in the blog site were the ones intended for the State and not the ones intended for the public. I have the corrected version and will hopefully be able to upload it within a matter of hours... realistically about six or seven hours.
Anyway, those who submitted on the confusing Twenty Affirmatives currently posted will be able to re-submit on the new version once it is uploaded.
Apologies for posting the wrong version and gratitude to Anony for bringing it to my attention.
As you were.
“I believe that it is part of the plan to get Crystal freed by Christmas.…”
You believe it’s part of the plan? Who’s plan is this?
And when the NC OCME ignores this document, then what?
Kenny,
Have you completed Sid’s survey?
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 4 days ago.
There are 27 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Have been having trouble accessing my domain account, ergo, I have not been able to switch the appropriate set of twenty affirmatives for the one specified for the State's autopsy review panel. The one currently on site is extremely confusing and I apologize for incorrectly uploading it. Hopefully the corrected version will be uploaded today.
As you were.
Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said...
“I believe that it is part of the plan to get Crystal freed by Christmas.…”
You believe it’s part of the plan? Who’s plan is this?
And when the NC OCME ignores this document, then what?
November 27, 2022 at 12:50 PM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
I appreciate your doubts that the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner will comply with responding to the affirmatives, but I have reason and assurances to believe that it will.
"...but I have reason and assurances to believe that it will."
You apparently had reason and assurances thet CGM would be out of jail by Thanksgiving.
Let's say for the sake of argument they actually DO complete your little questionnaire.
Then what?
What if the results they provide are not what you expect, and they just select "Disagree" to every question?
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
I just installed the proper set of Affirmatives to replace the misleading one that was in its place. The prior misleading affirmatives asked the questionnaire-taker to ascertain how the State's Autopsy Review Board would respond to the affirmatives, which was confusing and not my intent. The current set of twenty affirmatives is what I initially intended for general public use.
As you were.
Anonymous said...
Kenny,
Have you completed Sid’s survey?
November 27, 2022 at 8:56 PM
Hey, Anony.
kenhyderal's survey was the first, and only one received from a commenter as of the last time I checked. Unfortunately he filled out the confusing version, so almost all of his responses were "Unsure" with regards to how the State's Autopsy Review Board would respond. Again, apologies for my foul-up... and gratitude for bringing it to my attention.
As you were.
Prince Humperdinck said...
"...but I have reason and assurances to believe that it will."
You apparently had reason and assurances thet CGM would be out of jail by Thanksgiving.
Let's say for the sake of argument they actually DO complete your little questionnaire.
Then what?
What if the results they provide are not what you expect, and they just select "Disagree" to every question?
November 28, 2022 at 9:50 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
If the NC Office of the Chief Medical Examiner selects "No Disagree" to all or most of the affirmatives, then that will reflect on that individual as lacking integrity. These twenty questions basically re-affirm facts, so there really should be no discrepancy between responses by the State and by Dr. Cyril Wecht. There are clearly no discrepancies between my responses and those of Dr. Wecht.
Prince H., what I would be of interest to see is your responses to the twenty affirmatives and how they compare to those of Dr. Wecht. Remember to include an e-mail address and to respond to all twenty questions to assure submission. Welcome your comments, also, regarding the affirmatives.
What I’m interested in seeing you response to the question “What next?”
I’m not wasting my time with your little questionnaire, because my responses don’t mean anything of importance.
My responses are certainly not getting CGM out of jail by Christmas.
Sid,
Although Kenny is wrong more often than he is right, he is never unsure.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 5 days ago.
There are 26 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
@ Anonymous 11--29-22 4:38 : Apropos of ?
Kenny,
The poster on November 29 at 4:38 PM was commenting on Sid’s post on November 28 at 5:30 PM.
Kenhyderal- Sid stated that you had “filled out the confusing version, so almost all of his responses were "Unsure" with regards to how the State's Autopsy Review Board would respond..”
That was what @ Anonymous 11--29-22 4:38 was referencing.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 6 days ago.
There are 25 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 7 days ago.
There are 24 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
“These twenty questions basically re-affirm facts, so there really should be no discrepancy between responses by the State and by Dr. Cyril Wecht.”
If you already know how the NC OCME is going to respond to the questions, why bother asking?
I don’t think the OCME will respond either.
Kenny,
Have you completed Sid’s revised survey?
Dr. Harr,
Has the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner responded to your survey? If not, what is the next step you will take? Christmas is almost here.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 8 days ago.
There are 23 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid can't answer the question "What is the next step.."?
Which is why CGM needs a lawyer, not some wannabe who can't bother going to either the NCCU or Duke law libraries to research relevant case law (both are open to the public, according to their websites).
...Let alone speak to his good friend, James Coleman, about what his next steps should be.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 9 days ago.
There are 22 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
In light of Duke’s attempt to kidnap Dr. Harr, why would he visit the Duke law library?
There is no "what's the next step" for Sid. There needs to be a Court filing for anything to happen, and a legit one, not the nonsense he's filing in the wrong courts. Or an agreement with the DA. He has none of that.
This is just his continued emotional abuse of Crystal where he pretends he is helping but is really doing all he can to make sure she stays in prison and has to deal with him.
Sid is discussing the next step with Kenny.
Sid,
How many of your readers have completed your survey?
Sid,
Wake up and release the comments.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 10 days ago.
There are 21 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Kenny,
Do you believe that Sid’s survey will result in Crystal’s release from prison?
Sid,
Everybody was Kung Fu fighting.
There is no "what's the next step" for Sid. There needs to be a Court filing for anything to happen, and a legit one, not the nonsense he's filing in the wrong courts. Or an agreement with the DA. He has none of that.
Exactly so.
Sid’s admitted to going on Duke’s campus multiple times already. You’d think getting CGM pertinent legal information would be reasonable grounds for doing it again.
Sid,
Those kids were fast as lightening.
Kenny,
Tell us what you think of Sid’s survey.
Anonymous said...
Sid’s admitted to going on Duke’s campus multiple times already. You’d think getting CGM pertinent legal information would be reasonable grounds for doing it again.
December 4, 2022 at 11:19 AM
Hey, Anony.
For the record, I went to Durham's Duke University Hospital to pick up Crystal's ER record for Daily Beast writer Justin Glawe, who stated he needed the 2006 records for an article about Crystal's murder conviction. A disparaging article was written about Mangum by another writer which did not cover the truths of Mangum's innocence.
I do not know what legal information is available at Duke University that would be of help to Crystal Mangum. Can you enlighten me?
Note: I also went to Duke University Hospital in Raleigh to visit a dear friend who was hospitalized for cancer surgery. Those are the only visits I made to Duke property since the April 14, 2010 kidnapping attempt.
Dr. Caligari said...
There is no "what's the next step" for Sid. There needs to be a Court filing for anything to happen, and a legit one, not the nonsense he's filing in the wrong courts. Or an agreement with the DA. He has none of that.
Exactly so.
December 4, 2022 at 10:43 AM
Hey, Dr. Caligari.
I tried for more than two years to get a review of Dr. Nichols' autopsy report... was ignored by DHHS and DOJ, and the Durham D.A. Satana Deberry. The lawsuit filed by Mangum resulted in a review that is currently underway.
Dr. Caligari, have you filed out the affirmative questionnaire? Dr. Wecht filled it out. So has kenhyderal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,
How many of your readers have completed your survey?
December 3, 2022 at 10:25 AM
Hey, Anony.
kenhyderal submitted an affirmative form. Have you?
Nifong Supporter Supporter said...
Dr. Harr,
Has the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner responded to your survey? If not, what is the next step you will take? Christmas is almost here.
December 1, 2022 at 9:48 AM
Hey, Nifong double supporter,
I do not think the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner is going to fill out the affirmatives. I think they are going to work with the DOJ to produce a report that will omit critical events (i.e., the errant esophageal intubation of Daye, etc.) and conclude something simplistic like, "Mangum stabbed Daye so she is responsible for his death." If the NC OCME and DOJ were interested in objectively reviewing Dr. Nichols' autopsy report, they would have done it without Mangum having to file a lawsuit in Federal Court to compel them to conduct a review. I do not believe the State will work objectively and in good faith. Dr. Wecht's report and affirmatives are far more reliable than the state's.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid can't answer the question "What is the next step.."?
Which is why CGM needs a lawyer, not some wannabe who can't bother going to either the NCCU or Duke law libraries to research relevant case law (both are open to the public, according to their websites).
...Let alone speak to his good friend, James Coleman, about what his next steps should be.
December 2, 2022 at 9:08 AM
Hey, Anony.
Crystal Mangum had plenty of NC State Bar-accredited lawyers and they allowed her to be convicted of murder in a case in which no crime was committed.
And, I would not involve James Coleman in Mangum's case as that would not be a good move for him professionally. With hubris, Duke University holds grudges as is evidenced by its treatment of Crystal Mangum and me.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 11 days ago.
There are 20 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
"I would not involve James Coleman in Mangum's case as that would not be a good move for him professionally..."
A few facts about James Coleman:
He was the primary member of serial killer Ted Bundy's last defense team.
He has worn numerous awards and accolades in his various position at Duke Law School.
Coleman, as director of the Duke the Wrongful Convictions Clinic and faculty advisor for the Innocence Project has succeeded in exonerating a number of former inmates
A. I won't bother listing honors and awards, but let's just say he's untouchable by Duke Law School regardless of whom Wrongful the Convictions Clinic or Innocence Project represent. He's not the least bit worried about getting involved with a case as it would pertain to him professionally (see his work with regard to the Duke Lacrosse Case).
B. I think YOU"RE affraid to approach him about CGM, because you're afraid he will (justifiably) turn you down, for any of a number of reasons.
Prove me wrong -- reach out to Dr. James Coleman and let us know his response.
"I do not know what legal information is available at Duke University that would be of help to Crystal Mangum. Can you enlighten me?"
You're the one that complains about "why a layperson ....in a ...lawsuit should not have access to the law library"
Are you admitting now even with access to a law library, you can't help CGM unless someone tells you how?
And you still hasn't identified his next step.
Why not?
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 12 days ago.
There are 19 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Kenny,
Tell us what you thought of Sid’s survey. Will Crystal be released by Christmas?
Prince Humperdinck said...
"I would not involve James Coleman in Mangum's case as that would not be a good move for him professionally..."
A few facts about James Coleman:
He was the primary member of serial killer Ted Bundy's last defense team.
He has worn numerous awards and accolades in his various position at Duke Law School.
Coleman, as director of the Duke the Wrongful Convictions Clinic and faculty advisor for the Innocence Project has succeeded in exonerating a number of former inmates
A. I won't bother listing honors and awards, but let's just say he's untouchable by Duke Law School regardless of whom Wrongful the Convictions Clinic or Innocence Project represent. He's not the least bit worried about getting involved with a case as it would pertain to him professionally (see his work with regard to the Duke Lacrosse Case).
B. I think YOU"RE affraid to approach him about CGM, because you're afraid he will (justifiably) turn you down, for any of a number of reasons.
Prove me wrong -- reach out to Dr. James Coleman and let us know his response.
December 5, 2022 at 6:59 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
I have just e-mailed Professor Coleman with an attached copy of your December 5th comment and links to the Twenty Affirmatives questionnaire form and a link to the questionnaire form filled out by Dr. Cyril Wecht.
I do not anticipate a response, but if one is forthcoming, I will definitely make an announcement of such.
By the way, have you submitted a completed questionnaire?
Anonymous said...
"I do not know what legal information is available at Duke University that would be of help to Crystal Mangum. Can you enlighten me?"
You're the one that complains about "why a layperson ....in a ...lawsuit should not have access to the law library"
Are you admitting now even with access to a law library, you can't help CGM unless someone tells you how?
And you still hasn't identified his next step.
Why not?
December 5, 2022 at 7:08 AM
Hey, Anony.
I believe it is dangerous for me set foot on Duke University property, so I will not even attempt to gain access to its law library. Likewise, I have not set foot on NC General Assembly property since its police officers were sicced on me years ago.
Sid,
I suspect that, if Professor Coleman does not respond to your email, it’s because he does not recognize your name and assumes that your email is spam.
Sid,
Other than Kenny, how many responses have you received to your survey?
"I believe it is dangerous for me set foot on Duke University property..."
Then you can't complain about not having a law library available, can you?
"By the way, have you submitted a completed questionnaire?"
I won't bother answering your questionnaire because it doesn't matter whether I do or not. My supposition is that Dr. Coleman will feel the same way. Why bother Dr. Coleman with your questionnaire, when you could ask him hard questions, like what would it take to get the Innocence Project to look at CGM's case?
How about you post your e-mail to Professor Coleman "with an attached copy of my December 5th comment and links to the Twenty Affirmatives questionnaire form and a link to the questionnaire form filled out by Dr. Cyril Wecht."
I'd like to read it.
You still hasn't identified your next step
Kenny,
Don’t be bashful. Tell us what you thought of Sid’s survey. Will Crystal be released by Christmas?
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 13 days ago.
There are 18 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,
Other than Kenny, how many responses have you received to your survey?
December 6, 2022 at 10:13 AM
Hey, Anony.
I have still received only a total of four responses... including the one by kenhyderal. The other responses were not from commenters.
Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said...
"I believe it is dangerous for me set foot on Duke University property..."
Then you can't complain about not having a law library available, can you?
"By the way, have you submitted a completed questionnaire?"
I won't bother answering your questionnaire because it doesn't matter whether I do or not. My supposition is that Dr. Coleman will feel the same way. Why bother Dr. Coleman with your questionnaire, when you could ask him hard questions, like what would it take to get the Innocence Project to look at CGM's case?
How about you post your e-mail to Professor Coleman "with an attached copy of my December 5th comment and links to the Twenty Affirmatives questionnaire form and a link to the questionnaire form filled out by Dr. Cyril Wecht."
I'd like to read it.
December 6, 2022 at 1:14 PM
If Professor Coleman fills out the Affirmatives, then I'll post my e-mail that prodded him into responding.
Regarding a law library, I would not venture on Duke University property in order to visit its law library. At the present, I am not in want of a law library... I merely want the NC Office of the Chief Medical Examiner to merely respond to the twenty affirmatives.
"If Professor Coleman fills out the Affirmatives, then I'll post my e-mail that prodded him into responding."
I want to see the email now.
I want assurance that my words weren't taken out of context, and if they were, I want both notification sent to Dr. Coleman and an apology.
In the future, let ME know before you copy my comments then send them to a 3rd party.
Since you don't have my contact information (nor will you), the correct action is to post the communication here so it can be validated before being sent.
You have received a total of four responses.
You still haven't identified your next step.
Why is that?
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 14 days ago.
There are 17 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
I merely want to read the email you merely sent to Dr. Coleman.
Merely.
Kenny,
Why are you ignoring the questions you have been asked by other posters?
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 15 days ago.
There are 16 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 16 days ago.
There are 15 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 17 days ago.
There are 14 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 18 days ago.
There are 13 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid's reading the comments, since he's approving them.
Unfortunately, he's not responding to either Price Humperdinck's request to post the email written to Jim Coleman , nor is he responding to requests on his "next steps" to free Crystal Mangum following this questionnaire.
Not posting the email containing the prince's comments is unfortunate -- as the prince deserves to know whether his words were used in a manner other than those he meant.
Dr. Harr complains about so-called "wrongs" (like a newspaper referring to him as a "Durham man"), but fails to see when his own actions are...inadequate.
I've honestly no idea what his expectation is for this questionnaire document. I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I also honestly believe the following:
Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are.
Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas.
Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 19 days ago.
There are 12 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I wouldn't claim to be a "true legal expert," but I did practice law for 42 years before my retirement, and I agree with these statements.
I also honestly believe the following:
Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are.
Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas.
Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
Probably all true as well.
Interesting fact:
Canadians wait over 7 times longer to see a medical specialist, obtain diagnostic procedures, or undergo surgery than Americans.
The average wait time in Canada for these procedures is 27.4 weeks. In the US, the wait time is 26 days.
Do you know what the difference between 26 days and 27.4 weeks is for a person in dire need of seeing a specialist, obtaining a diagnosis or getting surgery? Life and death.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/12/canadians-wait-7-times-longer-than.html
Also, Canadians are "all in" for euthanizing people for any or no reason.
I suppose one way to keep healthcare costs down is to kill off the people most in need of healthcare.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 20 days ago.
There are 11 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Any movement on the Mangum v. Eddie Buffaloe grounds for rehearing en banc?
What about the Mangum v. Kinsley case?
The last documents filed by CGM were filed over 3 months ago.
Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said...
"If Professor Coleman fills out the Affirmatives, then I'll post my e-mail that prodded him into responding."
I want to see the email now.
I want assurance that my words weren't taken out of context, and if they were, I want both notification sent to Dr. Coleman and an apology.
In the future, let ME know before you copy my comments then send them to a 3rd party.
Since you don't have my contact information (nor will you), the correct action is to post the communication here so it can be validated before being sent.
December 7, 2022 at 9:41 AM
Hey, Prince Humperdinck.
I am in no rush to publish the e-mail I sent to Professor James Coleman. I might upload it later this week, as my focus is on getting Crystal freed before Christmas. I can give you assurances that your comment was not taken out of context as I did nothing more than refer to it in its unchanged totality.
Because you requested that I consult Professor Coleman, I do not understand why you would demand that I let you know that I am doing what you asked of me. Sans your comment, I never would have e-mailed Professor Coleman.
Does what I said make sense to you?
Anonymous said...
You have received a total of four responses.
You still haven't identified your next step.
Why is that?
December 7, 2022 at 10:45 AM
Hey, Anony.
Clearly for what I am waiting is for the Chief Medical Examiner to fill out the twenty affirmatives and return them to me. I do have plans regarding what to do with the responses, but there is no benefit for me to explain my plans without first being able to enact them.
Does that make sense?
dhall said...
Sid's reading the comments, since he's approving them.
Unfortunately, he's not responding to either Price Humperdinck's request to post the email written to Jim Coleman , nor is he responding to requests on his "next steps" to free Crystal Mangum following this questionnaire.
Not posting the email containing the prince's comments is unfortunate -- as the prince deserves to know whether his words were used in a manner other than those he meant.
Dr. Harr complains about so-called "wrongs" (like a newspaper referring to him as a "Durham man"), but fails to see when his own actions are...inadequate.
I've honestly no idea what his expectation is for this questionnaire document. I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I also honestly believe the following:
Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are.
Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas.
Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
December 12, 2022 at 6:57 AM
Hey, dhall.
It is my preference to let people to whom I send correspondence to have the opportunity to respond before I consider publicly posting that correspondence. Professor Coleman has had the opportunity to reply so, time permitting, I will post my e-mail to him later this week. Delay in my actions and replies are often due to time constraints as my priorities are related to getting Crystal freed by Christmas.
Regarding the questionnaire, it is comprised of twenty affirmatives. Affirmatives, legally speaking, are averments that facts are true. Like depositions and interrogatories, they are part of discovery, to my understanding. So, all I am asking of the Chief Medical Examiner is to confirm or deny facts related to Mangum's case. Dr. Cyril Wecht did. It is my belief that Dr. Aurelius, the Chief Medical Examiner, does not want to address the affirmatives.
Also, keep in mind that I have not found an attorney willing to work with Mangum on her case. Besides, her past attorneys who represented her allowed her to be convicted of a crime that did not occur. That would not have happened had I been representing her at trial. Her post-conviction attorneys sabotaged her case, as well.
Dr. Caligari said...
I'll let any true legal experts jump in here, but I don't think Dr. Harr can compel anyone (or agency) to answer the questionnaire, and the questionnaire can't be used against state actors if they don't complete it.
I wouldn't claim to be a "true legal expert," but I did practice law for 42 years before my retirement, and I agree with these statements.
I also honestly believe the following:
Dr. Harr has no idea what his "next steps" are.
Crystal Mangum will still be in jail this Christmas.
Until Crystal Mangum gains the support of a lawyer, this Christmas will not be her last spent in jail.
Probably all true as well.
December 13, 2022 at 9:14 AM
Hey, Dr. Caligari.
As mentioned in my previous comment, the questionnaire basically consists of twenty affirmatives... part of discovery. I am no legal expert either, but I believe when a party is presented with a set of affirmatives... or interrogatories, it is incumbent upon it to respond to them.
The set of twenty affirmatives was first presented to the State in an e-mail sent on October 24, 2022. As of today's date, December 14, 2022, the Chief Medical Examiner has yet to answer them. Dr. Cyril Wecht completed the twenty affirmatives on November 18, 2022, the day he received them and sent them back to me that same day.
I have been waiting for the completion of affirmatives by the State... vital to the release of Ms. Mangum. The State is dragging its foot... in essence it doesn't want to fill out the affirmatives. Crystal Mangum could have easily been released from custody by Thanksgiving had the State taken the time to complete the form within a week or two after receiving it.
Once I receive the affirmatives, you will become aware of my next steps.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any movement on the Mangum v. Eddie Buffaloe grounds for rehearing en banc?
What about the Mangum v. Kinsley case?
The last documents filed by CGM were filed over 3 months ago.
December 14, 2022 at 6:35 AM
Hey, Anony.
The case with the Secretary of Department of Public Safety Eddie Buffaloe was a Habeas Petition case, which you correctly referenced as being with the Fourth Circuit Appellate Court awaiting a ruling on an en banc rehearing, is still awaiting an outcome on that decision.
In the Kinsley case, Mangum agreed to a Stipulation to Dismiss her case in exchange for the State agreeing to provide a written report in review of the Dr. Nichols autopsy report on Reginald Daye. Mangum was given assurances that by accepting this proposal offered by the State, the final report would be issued much more expeditiously. As part of this process, the State agreed to respond to the affirmatives... but to date the topic of the affirmatives has been avoided by the State like the plague.
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 21 days ago.
There are 10 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
It is MY preference that I be told when my comments here are used in correspondence outside of this blog, and that I be given a copy of that correspondence BEFORE it is sent to a 3rd party to confirm my words aren't being taken out of context.
Since you never bothered telling me, it's only fair that you show me that correspondence, and what comments of mine were used in your correspondence.
At this point your assurance (like your past assurances that CGM would be out of prison by X date), mean nothing to me. They can't be trusted.
Do you think it's OK for use to use your or Kenhyderal's comments in correspondence neither of you are included in? Does Kenhyderal?
According to you, there are apparently 2 different provisions in the so-called "stipulation to dismiss" - one for the state to provide a written review of the Nichols Autopsy report, the other for the state to respond to the affirmatives.
When I look at the history of this case, Mangum filed the Motion to dismiss the case in October, the stipulation of dismissal came from Kody Kinsley (not Crystal Mangum) in early November. I find it odd that Kinsley would include the "respond to affirmatives" stipulation in his filing, and I don't see any subsequent filings other than the order closing the case. (which renders Mangum's motion to dismiss as moot).
Why haven't you posted either Mangum's motion to dismiss or Kinsley's stipulation of dismissal?
If agreeing to respond to the affirmatives aren't in the stipulation from Kinsley, and the court clerk has been told to close this case, what makes you think they'll respond to your questionnaire?
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 22 days ago.
There are 9 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 23 days ago.
There are 8 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 24 days ago.
There are 7 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 25 days ago.
There are 6 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid,
Thanksgiving was 26 days ago.
There are 5 days until Christmas.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
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