Saturday, April 16, 2011

Media spin shields public from facts about Daye’s death


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Because the media has been vague and mysteriously silent about Reginald Daye, the professed boyfriend of the Duke Lacrosse case victim and accuser Crystal Mangum, I have contacted some of my sources to find out what they say happened. Mainstream media will not inform the public, so you can find out by accessing this blog site.

The following is based upon what I have been told, and is not firsthand knowledge. Bear that in mind. This is what I have been told, and what I believe to be true.

Ever since Ms. Mangum’s arrest in February 17, 2010 on trumped up charges, she lost her apartment, job, personal belongings, and independence. In addition her father passed away while she was incarcerated and her mother, who was suffering with dementia, was placed in a nursing home. Through the kindness of friends, Crystal and her children stayed at a house of a friend, while Crystal struggled to regain her independence. She and her children moved into an apartment with Reginald Daye, a 46 year old man, eleven years her senior.

On the night of April 3, 2011, Ms. Mangum and Mr. Daye got into a financial argument… she wanted to use money to pay the rent, and he had other ideas for how the money should be spent. The argument ensued and escalated, and I am uncertain as to the immediate circumstances which led to the stabbing of Mr. Daye.

The media was vague about the wounds Reginald Daye received, with ABC-11 reporting that he was stabbed seven times. Some reports stated he was stabbed multiple times. Evidently the stab wounds were to the torso, but whether to the chest and/or abdomen was not clear in any of the mainstream media reports I came across. It is my understanding that Mr. Daye underwent surgery for his wounds and that his recovery was unremarkable. That by Friday, April 8, 2011, he was awake, strolling around, talking, and making plans for his release.

Then, over the weekend, he unexpectedly lapsed into a coma from which he would never recover. His condition was so dire that a medical decision was made to remove him from life support. I was told that Mr. Daye may have died as early as Monday April 11th, or on Tuesday, April 12th. The media reports claim that he died the evening of Wednesday, April 13th.


I was furthermore informed that it is believed that he succumbed to a massive air embolism… which suggests that someone purposely injected a large volume of air into his intravenous tubing. If this is true, then Mr. Daye was murdered, and not by Crystal Mangum because she, like Alan Gell, was incarcerated at the time of the crime.

As I stated initially, I do not know if the above scenario is factual, but I believe it carries a lot of weight. Consider that the media has been hush about Mr. Daye’s condition. There was no mention of him lapsing into a coma over the weekend. Also, had Mr. Daye died of his injuries, it would most likely have occurred within a matter of days after he underwent surgery and was hospitalized. The fact that he was on the mend and ready for discharge also rules out that he died of the stab wound(s) he sustained. Finally, had Mr. Daye’s death been a proximate result of Ms. Mangum’s attack, she would already be charged with first degree murder, and it would have happened without a cabal of Durham prosecutors and police.

Instead of rushing to assign a murder charge against Ms. Mangum, the Durham prosecutors and police need to obtain an autopsy report, study its findings, and move on from there. Whatever the cause of death, be it medical negligence, medical malpractice, or intentional homicide, Crystal Mangum is not responsible for the death of Reginald Daye. 


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Anonymous said...

Instead of rushing to assign a murder charge against Ms. Mangum, the Durham prosecutors and police need to obtain an autopsy report, study its findings, and move on from there.

They are apparently waiting for the autopsy report. Additional charges have not been filed.

Crystal Mangum is not responsible for the death of Reginald Daye.

Perhaps the author of this post should wait for the autopsy report and study its findings before reaching any conclusion.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"'Instead of rushing to assign a murder charge against Ms. Mangum, the Durham prosecutors and police need to obtain an autopsy report, study its findings, and move on from there.'

They are apparently waiting for the autopsy report. Additional charges have not been filed.

'Crystal Mangum is not responsible for the death of Reginald Daye.'

Perhaps the author of this post should wait for the autopsy report and study its findings before reaching any conclusion."


The problem is that the media is suppressing a lot of information to protect certain parties. Based on what I have been told, as I prefaced from the start, Crystal Mangum cannot be held responsible for the death of Reginald Daye.

The question is, will the Durham Police Department conduct an investigation into Daye's death?

Anonymous said...

The question is, will the Durham Police Department conduct an investigation into Daye's death?

The DPD does not always investigate crimes. They did not conduct a bona fide investigation of the alleged sexual assault. Rather, they had Magnum select defendants they could indict.

You do not criticize the the DPD when you do not sympathize with the victims of their frames.

Anonymous said...

"The problem is that the media is suppressing a lot of information to protect certain parties. Based on what I have been told, as I prefaced from the start, Crystal Mangum cannot be held responsible for the death of Reginald Daye."

Again, if someone were to make that assertion in court in Ms. Mangum's defense, that individual would have to prove it. To say, I can not prove it because all the information is being suppressed is to invite the court to say, you have no credibility.

What is the basis of your belief that information is being suppressed? Friends of Crystal Mangum, who have actively tried to suppress anything not favorable to Ms. Mangum.

Have you ever provided any evidence to prove this carpetbagger jihad which you allege is real.

If you were to allege, in you lawsuit, that a carpetbagger jihad is out to get you, you would have to prove it.

I hope you do. I would like to see what you offer as proof.

Anonymous said...

When is kilgo going to claim he knows who or what really killed Mr. Daye?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, I would also relish the court dismissing you lawsuit after hearing how you try to prove the carpetbagger jihad.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Harr,
This post is your most fantastical and vile to date. Mr. Daye's death according to all accounts is a direct result of Ms. Mangum. Were it not for her, he would not have been in the hospital. There are many ways to get an air embolism not the least of which is a gas producing bacteria that could have been infecting his wounds. I note that you do not deny Ms. Mangum stabbed Mr. Daye, and as such the rest of your post is the same old saw of "little miss victim has it so hard that she had no other choice to do what she did.". Well this time someone ended up dead and the real evidence so far points directly at Ms. Mangum. The fact that I believe this doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for her, but as the good Book says: "as you sow, so shall you reap."

Anonymous said...

Sidney, at least one Marine injured inthe Beirut Bombing died of hus injuries about one and one half months after the bombing.

Anonymous said...

The problem is that the media is suppressing a lot of information to protect certain parties.

Who?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, is it or is it not believable that DUMC might not have released information about Mr. Daye's deteriorating condition out of concern for the rights of a suspect?

I doubt if you really know anything about the rights of suspects, considering how you try to spin Mr. Nifong's blatant violation of those rights via his inflammatory pre trial statements.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you are really afraid of who I am and what I know, aren't you.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, with your babble about the timeline of Mr. Daye's demise, President James Garfield was assassinated while in office. He died of a gunshot wound a couple months after the wound was inflicted.

Anonymous said...

"As I stated initially, I do not know if the above scenario is factual, but I believe it carries a lot of weight."

In other words, you have no idea whether anything you said is true, but it sure makes for a good story.

Anonymous said...

Sid, your latest post is beyond pathetic. You should go back to drawing your cartoons.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, there is an adage of which most physicians are aware: when you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras.

Mr.Daye, by all accounts, suffered serious penetrating trauma to the chest. You suggest that deliberate injection of air into his iv was a likely cause of death.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, that scenario you suggest carries almost no weight. It carries as much weight as the suggestion that the time stamped photos contradicting Ms. Mangum's details of her alleged assault were altered.

If you insist that the photos were altered, prove it.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, who are your sources. Friends of Crystal Mangum, maybe? Crystal's friends, shortly after Mr. Daye's demise, were suggesting that DUMC would not treat him appropriately because of the lawsuits pending against them.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, the post about the Beirut Marine was in response to your assertion that Mr. Daye would have died within the first few days of surgery. Your assertion has no weight.

Anonymous said...

"She and her children moved into an apartment with Reginald Daye, a 46 year old man, eleven years her senior."

Sidney, 46 minus 32 equals 14.

You never were very good at getting the facts straight.

Anonymous said...

"The following is based upon what I have been told, and is not firsthand knowledge."

Since when have you had any first hand knowledge of what actually happened in the Duke Rape hoax?

Anonymous said...

"This is what I have been told, and what I believe to be true.

Sidney, you believe it to be true that the three Lacrosse defendants raped Ms. Mangum, even though evidence shows that said rape did not occur.

And even though evidence showed said rape did not occur, you believe it to be true that Ms. Mangum did not falsely accuse those Lacrosse defendants of rape.

Your stating of what you believe has no weight.

Anonymous said...

"Evidently the stab wounds were to the torso, but whether to the chest and/or abdomen was not clear in any of the mainstream media reports I came across."

The media reports clearly said he had been stabbed in the chest.

You probably consider the mainstream media reports unclear because you say the mainstream media is controlled by the carpetbagger jihad.

Anonymous said...

"I was furthermore informed that it is believed that he succumbed to a massive air embolism… which suggests that someone purposely injected a large volume of air into his intravenous tubing."

If you believe that suggests someone deliberately injected air into his iv, you do not understand the consequences of penetrating chest trauma.

Anonymous said...

"Then, over the weekend, he unexpectedly lapsed into a coma from which he would never recover."

Other than an induced coma, when is it ever expected that anyone will lapse into a coma?

Did you really ever practice medicine? I personally have my doubts, considering this latest blog of yours.

Anonymous said...

"Instead of rushing to assign a murder charge against Ms. Mangum, the Durham prosecutors and police need to obtain an autopsy report, study its findings, and move on from there."

Shouldn't Mr. Nifong have waited to see if he had a case before he rushed to declare a crime had occurred.

Once it was apparent he had no crime to prosecute, shouldn't he have ended the case right there?

Anonymous said...

"Whatever the cause of death... Crystal Mangum is not responsible for the death of Reginald Daye."

Isn't that for the justice system rather than for you to decide? Should there be a Grand Jury investigation? Shouldn't there be pre trial conferences?

Whatever should be done, it is not up to Sidney Harr to rule on guilt or innocence, especially since, unlike AG Cooper in the Lacrosse case, he has no first hand knowledge of what did happen.

Anonymous said...

"The fact that he was on the mend and ready for discharge also rules out that he died of the stab wound(s) he sustained."

According to you, you have no first hand knowledge of what happened, only what your sources have reported to you. You do not reveal your sources.

I say, you have no first hand knowledge of the Medical Record. Therefore, this statement, like your other statements which I have quoted, has no weight.

Anonymous said...

"Also, had Mr. Daye died of his injuries, it would most likely have occurred within a matter of days after he underwent surgery and was hospitalized."

As I pointed out in the example of the Beirut Marine and in the example of President James Garfield, death not within the first few days of an injury or of a surgical procedure for an injury does not exclude the injury as a cause of death.

Anonymous said...

"As I stated initially, I do not know if the above scenario is factual, but I believe it carries a lot of weight."

You try to pass of an oxymoronic assertion as fact. If you really do not know whether or not a scenario is factual, you can not say it carries a lot of weight.

In a case of penetrating chest trauma which leaves a patient in serious condition, deliberate injection of air into an iv is an unlikely cause of death.

Who do you say had the motivation to do such a thing?

Logical suspects in such a scenario would be people who support Ms. Mangum. That would eliminate Mr. Daye as a witness. It would give people like The Friends of Crystal Mangum an excuse to claim less than adequate treatment caused Mr. Daye's death.

Anonymous said...

"That by Friday, April 8, 2011, he was awake, strolling around, talking, and making plans for his release."

You could not say that unless you had first hand knowledge of the Medical Record. You have indicated you do not.

Anonymous said...

"… she[Ms. Mangum] wanted to use money to pay the rent, and he had other ideas for how the money should be spent. The argument ensued and escalated, and I am uncertain as to the immediate circumstances which led to the stabbing of Mr. Daye."

You have no first hand knowledge of what the differences regarding money were unless you were there to hear the argument. You, by your own admission, were not.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you better do a whole lot of brushing up on evidence and testimony if you are presenting yourself as your main witness in your lawsuit against Duke.

If that is what you plan, your lawyer not only has a fool for a client, he has a very non-credible, highly ineffective witness to present.

Anonymous said...

"Finally, had Mr. Daye’s death been a proximate result of Ms. Mangum’s attack, she would already be charged with first degree murder..."

You do not know that. Your demonstrated lack of legal knowledge, your demonstrated lack of understanding of what justice is, and your bias in favor of Ms. Mangum all disqualify from commenting authoritatively.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, it is hardly likely that DUMC or Mr. Daye's family would give you or any Friend of Crystal access to the medical record, even if were not now evidence in a criminal case. Considering your agenda, to exonerate Ms. Mangum regardless of what she does, no one with the authority to give you such access would likely not do so.

Anonymous said...

"I was told that Mr. Daye may have died as early as Monday April 11th, or on Tuesday, April 12th. The media reports claim that he died the evening of Wednesday, April 13th."

The time of death is recorded in the medical record. If was after he was removed from life support, that time would be precisely known.

You have not had access to the medical record. I do not think any of your sources had access to the medical record.
You wouldn't know it, the media would not know it unless they had access to the medical record. Y

Anonymous said...

"Based on what I have been told, as I prefaced from the start, Crystal Mangum cannot be held responsible for the death of Reginald Daye."

Based on what you may have been told, you are not capable of making such a decision.

Let's have an inquest and see what that says. Unlike you, whoever conducts an inquest would have access to the necessary information.

The Great Kilgo said...

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Bravo !

Bravo !


This is quite a performance.

anonymous is now promoted

to Journeyman Lacrosse Shill.


But, anonymous

whoever the hell you are

who we should be oh so afraid of,


Please at least give yourself a decent handle,

so that we may distinguish you from

all the other anonymous Jackals

that infest this blog.


Unless you are all one and the same

which wouldn't surprise us.



.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure the Duke lacrosse team conspired with the Ku Klux Klan and the CIA to kill Reginald Daye while everybody wasn't looking so as to frame poor little Crystal.The girl just seems have a lot of bad luck.Anyway,Duke just beat Virginia 13-11 to win the ACC regular season.

Anonymous said...

kilgo still has nothing meaningful to say.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, why do you not represent Ms. Mangum.

That way, if she were convicted, she could appeal on the ground of inadequate representation.

Anonymous said...

kilgo never ceases not to amaze me, or to show he does fear what I say.

Anonymous said...

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Some posters

submit posts

that say

absolutely nothing !


Yet they

criticize

other posters

and make

ad hominem attacks !


What a waste

of time ! !













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Anonymous said...

To the author of the previous comment, kilgo is a prime example

Anonymous said...

"Some posters

submit posts

that say

absolutely nothing !"

Sidney is a prime example.

Anonymous said...

"Yet they

criticize

other posters

and make

ad hominem attacks !"

Like Sidney's attacks on the innocent Lacrosse players and their families.

Anonymous said...

"Yet they

criticize

other posters

and make

ad hominem attacks !"

For example, kilgo.

Anonymous said...

kilgo, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you again demonstrate you do not understand the Justice system.

To prove first degree murder, the state would have to demonstrate the accused had formed an intent before the crime to kill the victim.

Can the state show in this case that Ms. Mangum had formed an intent to kill Mr. Daye before the argument?

Incidentally, you cite Mr. Nifong's delay in charging the innocent defendants with rape as an example of his ethics and honor as a prosecutor. Why was it not a sign that he could not have made his case?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, here is something for you to ponder.

This is a hypothetical situation. Ms. A stabs Mr. B and inflicts upon him serious penetrating chest trauma. Ms. A is taken into custody. Mr. B is hospitalized in serious condition.

While Ms. A is in custody, Mr. B dies from a complication of his treatment.

Would Mr. B have required medical treatment had Ms. A not stabbed him?

Would Mr. B have been exposed to the risk of a complication had he not required medical treatment.

kilgo will probably chime in to say hypothetical situations are meaningless.

You seem to say that if Mr. Daye died from a complication of his treatment, then Ms. Mangum can not be held responsible for his death.

I say a court would decide differently.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, here are other questions for you, and they come from my last visit to liestoppers.

Ms. Mangum was, according to her friends, unemployed. Mr. Daye, according to his obituary, was employed. She and her children were living in Mr. Daye's apartment. Her name was not on the lease.

Why would an employed man take up with an unemployed woman? Why would that be if he needed money?

What rent would they be arguing about if not the rent on the apartment in which they lived?

Who would be paying the rent on the apartment, the employed man or the unemployed woman?

It is not plausible that Ms. Manfum would be arguing that she wanted to pay the rent and that Mr. Daye would be arguing that he wanted the money for other purposes.

What is more plausible, considering Ms. Mangum's poverty, as described by her friends, Ms. Mangum wanted money from Mr. Daye.

Considering Ms. Mangum's documented history of violence, what would have happened if he had refused to give it to her. Would she have attacked him?

If the state can establish that Ms. Mangum assaulted Mr. Daye in an attempt to take his money, than the state can get a conviction for capital murder.

It is becoming more and more obvious your reporting of what happened is not based on any real knowledge of the case.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you would do Ms. Mangum a whole lot of real good if you simply did not even try to open your mouth in her defense.

I say again, your unnamed sources are nothing more than thin air and wishful thinking. You have not come up with anything believable.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Mr. Harr,
This post is your most fantastical and vile to date. Mr. Daye's death according to all accounts is a direct result of Ms. Mangum. Were it not for her, he would not have been in the hospital. There are many ways to get an air embolism not the least of which is a gas producing bacteria that could have been infecting his wounds. I note that you do not deny Ms. Mangum stabbed Mr. Daye, and as such the rest of your post is the same old saw of 'little miss victim has it so hard that she had no other choice to do what she did.'. Well this time someone ended up dead and the real evidence so far points directly at Ms. Mangum. The fact that I believe this doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for her, but as the good Book says: 'as you sow, so shall you reap.'"


The problem is that the media accounts of Mr. Daye's hospitalization are lacking. There was no indication that I'm aware of that he had any infection. The media did not even mention that he lapsed into a coma. Why the hush-hush from the media?

Believe me, that if Mr. Daye's death was secondary to his injuries, Ms. Mangum would have already been charged with first degree murder.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, at least one Marine injured inthe Beirut Bombing died of hus injuries about one and one half months after the bombing."


Being blown up and being stabbed are different types of trauma. The marine may have had severe brain trauma. My point is that the marine was probably never anywhere near being discharged home during his hospitalization. It is my understanding that Mr. Daye was ready for discharge when he mysteriously went into a coma.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, with your babble about the timeline of Mr. Daye's demise, President James Garfield was assassinated while in office. He died of a gunshot wound a couple months after the wound was inflicted."


After he was shot, was President Garfield ever on the verge of being discharged home?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sid, your latest post is beyond pathetic. You should go back to drawing your cartoons."


I haven't given up on cartooning. My next comic strip will deal with my experience at Duke University last year when I was nearly arrested. Episode VI should be ready about Spring 2012.

Anonymous said...

"The marine may have had severe brain trauma."

That Marine did not have brain trauma.

How do you know that Mr. Day was on the verge of going home? You do not have access to the hospital record. Neither do any of your sources.

Anonymous said...

"After he was shot, was President Garfield ever on the verge of being discharged home?"

I don't know. Do you?

I ask again, without access to the medical record, how do you know he was on the verge of going home.

Anonymous said...

"Believe me, that if Mr. Daye's death was secondary to his injuries, Ms. Mangum would have already been charged with first degree murder."

Why would any one believe you? You have demonstrated a total lack of knowledge of the justice system via your repeated statements that Mr. Nifong's prosecution of the innocent Lacrosse players was within acceptable standards for a prosecutor.

The Lacrosse players are innocent because the crime they were charged with committing never happened.

Anonymous said...

"t is my understanding that Mr. Daye was ready for discharge when he mysteriously went into a coma."

Then maybe you have no understanding at all.

Did you read that in the medical record? Your statement implies you did not.

Anonymous said...

"My next comic strip will deal with my experience at Duke University last year when I was nearly arrested."

Who witnessed the near arrest?

Anonymous said...

"Being blown up and being stabbed are different types of trauma."

Obviously.

Do you have any first hand knowledge of what did happen to that Marine?

If not, you are not qualified to comment.

How do you know that if someone died of penetrating chest trauma, it would have to be within the first few days of the trauma?

Say, someone is stabbed in the chest, collects fluid in the chest, developes an empyema and dies of chronic infection two months later.
That is a plausible scenario. Have you ever dealt with that kind of scenario?

Anonymous said...

Say Sidney,

Tell us exactly how many cases of penetrating chest trauma have you handled, start to finish?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, address the issue, why would unemployed Ms. Mangum living in Mr. Daye's apartment argue with him about rent she was not paying?

Anonymous said...

Sidnet, according to the account of Mr. Garfield's death in Wikipedia, he died in the White House 11 weeks after the shooting.

He was initially expected to recover. Then his condition fluctuated, then he deteriorated and died.

The Great Kilgo said...

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Oh, Lord.

What a Pity.





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The Great Kilgo said...

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Your Career as a Professional

Lacrosse Shill is now Over.





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Anonymous said...

kilgo again manifests he has nothing to say

The Great Kilgo said...

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Now we shall admit you did show some Promise.


The Feigned Ignorance.


The Selective Memory.


A Superficial Command of the Facts.



The Rapid Fire Interrogations show
a commendable determination and energy.


However there was Never Anything Original.



It all began to Reek of the Unmistakable.




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Anonymous said...

Kilgo,

We don't need you to grade other commenters. Answers to the questions would be preferable.

Start with an explanation of why the DPD failed to conduct a credible investigation.

The Great Kilgo said...

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We then Committed the Fatal Blunder.





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The Great Kilgo said...

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QUACK

QUACK

QUACK



DPD failed to conduct a credible investigation.


QUACK

QUACK

QUACK


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Anonymous said...

kilgo shows again he has no capacity for meaningful statements.

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he has no capacity for meaningful statements.

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he has no capacity for meaningful comment.

Anonymous said...

Sidney calls the previous charges against Ms Mangum trumped up. Sidney would not recognize a trumped up charge if it hit him in the face. He is unable to admit the charges against the innocent Lacrosse players were trumped up.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, does Duke University support your cause? I think not.

Via your lawsuit, you are trying to coerce Duke to support your cause.

How is it consistent with free speech to coerce an institution to support a cause it does not support?

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sydney? said...

Sydney's headline says: "Media spin shields public from facts about Daye’s death"

And yet, not surprisingly, Sydney provides none of his own, choosing instead to make scurrilous suppositions.

Have you no shame, Sydney? (rhetorical question; of course you don't).

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, you again demonstrate you do not understand the Justice system.

To prove first degree murder, the state would have to demonstrate the accused had formed an intent before the crime to kill the victim.

Can the state show in this case that Ms. Mangum had formed an intent to kill Mr. Daye before the argument?

Incidentally, you cite Mr. Nifong's delay in charging the innocent defendants with rape as an example of his ethics and honor as a prosecutor. Why was it not a sign that he could not have made his case?"


In the February 17, 2010 incident, the state charged Crystal with attempted first degree murder, even though she was "armed" only with her hands and feet. Of course the prosecution will charge her with first degree murder if they can get away with it. The law, as it pertains to most of the population goes out the window when it come to the Duke Lacrosse case.

Anonymous said...

Hey Whatchoo -- Don't you find it strange that Sid never mentions anywhere here that the hospital's ability to release patient information is constrained by federal law (HIPAA). I mean, Sid is a Dr. and everything -- and HIPAA being a law since the mid 90's. I'm sure he had to have some experience with it.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, here is something for you to ponder.

This is a hypothetical situation. Ms. A stabs Mr. B and inflicts upon him serious penetrating chest trauma. Ms. A is taken into custody. Mr. B is hospitalized in serious condition.

While Ms. A is in custody, Mr. B dies from a complication of his treatment.

Would Mr. B have required medical treatment had Ms. A not stabbed him?

Would Mr. B have been exposed to the risk of a complication had he not required medical treatment.

kilgo will probably chime in to say hypothetical situations are meaningless.

You seem to say that if Mr. Daye died from a complication of his treatment, then Ms. Mangum can not be held responsible for his death.

I say a court would decide differently."


You do not understand my position. I do not feel that Mr. Daye died from a complication of his treatment. Although an autopsy report has yet to be issued, I believe that either he died as a result of gross medical malpractice, or, more likely, someone sabotaged his treatment and Mr. Daye was willfully murdered with the intention of having charges against Mangum upgraded to include first degree murder.

Keep in mind, that it is my understanding that Mr. Daye was well on his way to recovery from his wounds when a mysterious happening left him in a coma and his ultimate death. Therefore, I doubt that his wounds played any role in his demise.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, here are other questions for you, and they come from my last visit to liestoppers.

Ms. Mangum was, according to her friends, unemployed. Mr. Daye, according to his obituary, was employed. She and her children were living in Mr. Daye's apartment. Her name was not on the lease.

Why would an employed man take up with an unemployed woman? Why would that be if he needed money?

What rent would they be arguing about if not the rent on the apartment in which they lived?

Who would be paying the rent on the apartment, the employed man or the unemployed woman?

It is not plausible that Ms. Manfum would be arguing that she wanted to pay the rent and that Mr. Daye would be arguing that he wanted the money for other purposes.

What is more plausible, considering Ms. Mangum's poverty, as described by her friends, Ms. Mangum wanted money from Mr. Daye.

Considering Ms. Mangum's documented history of violence, what would have happened if he had refused to give it to her. Would she have attacked him?

If the state can establish that Ms. Mangum assaulted Mr. Daye in an attempt to take his money, than the state can get a conviction for capital murder.

It is becoming more and more obvious your reporting of what happened is not based on any real knowledge of the case."


I will address all of these statements in my next flog (Flash blog) which I plan on posting this Saturday.

Nifong Supporter said...

By the way, you might want to suggest to liestoppers that they change their name to "liestarters" as it would be more appropriate.

Anonymous said...

"Keep in mind, that it is my understanding that Mr. Daye was well on his way to recovery from his wounds when a mysterious happening left him in a coma and his ultimate death. Therefore, I doubt that his wounds played any role in his demise."

Sidney, upon what do you base your understanding. Have you reviewed the medical record? I think not. You cite sources you do not identify as the medical record.

Therefore, my understanding is that you have not established that you have any real understanding.

Anonymous said...

"By the way, you might want to suggest to liestoppers that they change their name to "liestarters" as it would be more appropriate."

What lies have been started.

Are you calling it a lie that the innocent Duke Lacrosse players did not rape Ms. Mangum. The essence of liestoppers is that they did not rape Ms. Mangum and that accusation was and remains a lie.

Anonymous said...

"...I believe that either he died as a result of gross medical malpractice, or, more likely, someone sabotaged his treatment and Mr. Daye was willfully murdered with the intention of having charges against Mangum upgraded to include first degree murder."

If you were to offer that in court as a defense of Ms. Mangum, you would have to prove it. You would be offering an affirmative defense.

An unsupported allegation is just that. An unsupported allegation is not reasonable doubt. It is just an allegation with no evidence to show it is credible.

How would you show your allegations are credible? You allege that a carpetbagger jihad is responsible for the exoneration of the Duke defendants and the disbarment of Mr. Nifong. You have never offered anything credible to support this allegation.

In the same vein, you have offered nothing credible to show that Duke University violated your right to free speech.

Anonymous said...

"I believe that...he died as a result of gross medical malpractice..."

If he had not been stabbed, would he have been exposed to Medical Malpractice?

If Crystal did indeed inflict upon him the wounds which necessitated Medical treatment, she would have still been a cause of his death.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, who would have had a motive to kill Mr. Daye?

I say again, you have never offered any evidence, let alone credible evidence to support your allegation of a carpetbagger jihad.

Who, with access to Mr. Daye would have had a motive to kill him? If you were to put that forth as a defense of Ms. Mangum, you would have to establish credibility. How would you do that?

I say it is credible that Ms. Mangum's supporters would have a motive to kill Mr. Daye and make it look like malpractice or a complication. That would prevent Mr. Daye from testifying who stabbed him and why. That would prevent him from testifying about the argument which led to the stabbing.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, let's get back to the Beirut bombing. You say, correctly, the trauma suffered by that Marine was not a stab wound of the chest. It was much more extensive.

The Marines who died from the bombing suffered much more extensive trauma than did Mr. Daye. I say this based on what I know of the bombing, what I know about penetrating chest trauma, and what I have read about Mr. Daye. In spite of your ranting, you have not established that the media is covering anything up.

Most of the casualties did die within a few days of the bombing. This particular Marine did not.

James Garfield did not die within a few days of his injury.

You argue that because Mr. Daye did not die within a few days of his injury, that rules out his injury as a cause of his death. It does not.

Anonymous said...

"The law, as it pertains to most of the population goes out the window when it come to the Duke Lacrosse case."

Sidney, you have come up with a true statement here.

The law provides protection, rights to those accused of serious crime, to insure there is a fair unbiased trial. Mr. Nifong tried to throw all those safeguards out the window in order to insure an unfair trial. He tried to convict those innocent Lacrosse players of a non existent crime without any evidence so he could get himself elected.

Anonymous said...

"Keep in mind, that it is my understanding that Mr. Daye was well on his way to recovery from his wounds when a mysterious happening left him in a coma and his ultimate death. Therefore, I doubt that his wounds played any role in his demise."

Would Mr. Daye have lapsed into a coma, would there have been any adverse happening adverse or otherwise had he not been stabbed?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you and your sources are desperately trying to exonerate Ms. Mangum. You are failing.

If, and this is a big if, Durham had a competent DA,you and your sources would be advised not even attempt to testify in Ms. Mangum's behalf. A competent prosecutor, even a competent layman, could rip your credibility to shreds. You do not establish reasonable doubt by making non credible, unsupported allegations.

Of course Durham has Tracy Cline as its DA. Look what happened when Tracy Cline told a jury she could prove Leon Brown guilty of rape beyond a reasonable doubt.

Why do you not research what happen to Leon Brown and then blog about why you have never called African American Ms. Cline an unethical prosecutor?

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Anonymous said...

"In the February 17, 2010 incident, the state charged Crystal with attempted first degree murder..."

They sought to charge her with ATTEMPTED first degree murder. Ultimately they did not.

The only thing I recall actually mentioned in the media is Second Degree Murder, which is a de facto recognition that the state can not establish intent.

You have not shown any credible evidence that the media is covering up anything about the case.

In the Duke case, if the media had not covered Mr. Nifong's inflammatory guilt presuming pre trial statements, would you have accused the media of covering up?

What is your definition of a media coverup. Do you define it as a coverup that the media does not publish your unsupported allegations about the Duke rape hoax of 13-14 March 2006?

Anonymous said...

kilgo yet again demonstrates he has no capacity for meaningful comment.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, have you noticed no one is mentioning first degree murder except you?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, there is a report from ABC news that Mr. Daye, before he was taken to the hospital, told police that Crystal Mangum had stabbed him and had taken his money.

Who, besides Crystal and her friends would not want Mr.Daye making those statements under oath in open court?

Anonymous said...

"On the night of April 3, 2011, Ms. Mangum and Mr. Daye got into a financial argument… she wanted to use money to pay the rent, and he had other ideas for how the money should be spent. The argument ensued and escalated, and I am uncertain as to the immediate circumstances which led to the stabbing of Mr. Daye."

Interesting, Sid. How is it that your version doesn't state that Mr. Daye told police officers that CGM stabbed him AND took his money?

Unlike your specious claims, I can actually cite a source for this information -- the search warrants issued for Mangum after the stabbing.

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Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment.

Anonymous said...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/video?id=8052138

Sidney, this is an link to the 911 call placed by Mr. Daye's nephew.

The nephew says, Mr. Daye told him his girlfriend stabbed him and took his money.

The nephew identifies the girlfriend as "the Crystal Mangum'.

Who besides Crystal and her friends would want to prevent Mr. Daye from saying that under oath in open court?

Anonymous said...

Is kilgo ever going to tire of telling us how incapable he is? I think not.

Anonymous said...

Reginald Daye's nephew would be able to testify in court that his uncle said to him that his girlfriend stabbed him and took his money. He would also be able to testify that the girlfriend was Crystal Mangum.

Anonymous said...

Wonder if the nephew's life is in danger? Better keep an eye on him and protect him fron the J4N and FoCM crowd

Anonymous said...

"The law, as it pertains to most of the population goes out the window when it come to the Duke Lacrosse case."

Sidney, via that statement that the Lacrosse defendants are guilty of raping Crystal Mangum. What else could it mean?

You have yet to explain how such a rape occurred without leaving evidence. Your argument that a sexual assault as opposed to a rape could have happened without leaving evidence is a dodge with no legal weight.

What was described in the Medical record, what the police alleged was a rape in which evidence was left.

Anonymous said...

Come to think of it, Sidney, would you not have wanted Mr. Daye to make his statements under oath in open court? I think those statements made under oath in open court would displease you.

So, maybe you had a motive to murder Mr. Daye.

Of course, there is no way you could have passed yourself off as a health professional who could have gotten close to MR. Daye.

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Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, do any of your sources include Mr. Daye's family who say he died on April 13?

Anonymous said...

"
nifong's blog has been


- I N F E S T E D -


by the



- L i E s T o P p E r S "

Please explain. Sidney claims Mr. Nifong has nothing to do with this blog.

Are you accusing Sidney of lying?

Anonymous said...

Drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum actually committed murder and there are black racists who are still defending her.Given the fact that she is a woman and considering the demographics of Durham she probably won't serve a lot of time in prison.I'm sure we will be hearing from her again.

Anonymous said...

A grand jury has indicted Crystal Mangum in the murder of her boyfriend Reginald Daye.

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/1
8/1138586/crystal-mangum-indicted-
for-boyfriends.html#ixzz1JuMx9rNF

Anonymous said...

Nifong is a dirtbag. North Carolina a nasty southern town full of nasty people. Michigan is a much better place.

Anonymous said...

Minor correction -- Crystal Mangum has been indicted on one charge of first-degree murder and two counts of larceny.

Anonymous said...

Sid -- Vincent Clark is on record stating that Crystal Mangum realizes she has "mental health problems". Were you at any time aware of these?

Anonymous said...

How does the indictment of the grand jury effect your thinking? Mr. Daye's family said he died on Wednesday the 13th and perhaps the Durham authorities were waiting on the grand jury to indict before increasing the charges. I think we, not being the jury, can assume she is guilty or the victim of rotten luck or a massive conspiracy. Can you comment please?

Anonymous said...

"perhaps the Durham authorities were waiting on the grand jury to indict before increasing the charges."

Perhaps they were waiting on the autopsy results. I don't think we'll know until the trial.

Anonymous said...

From Fox News:

"RALEIGH, North Carolina -- The woman who falsely accused three Duke lacrosse players of raping her was charged Monday with murder in the death of her boyfriend.
A grand jury indicted Crystal Mangum on a charge of first-degree murder and two counts of larceny.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/18/duke-lacrosse-accuser-indicted-murder-charge/#ixzz1Julw32eE"

Sidney, I guess the state does believe it can make a case for pre meditation, or maybe capital murder.

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Anonymous said...

Responsibility for what? I read that tripe and shake my head in disgust and incredulity. How is it that people like you exist? Exalt the evil one. Just sick.

The Liestippers, as you call them, warned anyone that would listen that the "victim" of the Duke False Rape Lie and Frame was going to really hurt someone. No one in Durham did listen. After The Crystal Mangum threatened to stab her last boyfriend -- in front of police -- and started a fire in her home with three youngsters inside, the Kool Aid-drunk judge slapped her wrist with probation(!) -- not even the mental health treatment she so obviously needed -- while calling THE Crystal Mangum a good mother. Will she share the responsibility for Mr. Daye's death? Will you?

Anonymous said...

She should kill herself.

Anonymous said...

kilgo, we are defending the victims of the Duke Lacrosse scandal, the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players.

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows his capacity for meaningless commentary.

Anonymous said...

MANGUM, CRYSTAL, GAIL
Date Confined Date Released Statute Description Bond Type Bond Amount
4/3/2011 [incarcerated] MURDER NO BOND $0.00

4/3/2011 [incarcerated] LARCENY OF CHOOSE IN ACTION NO BOND $0.00

4/3/2011 [incarcerated] ASSAULT - DEADLY WEAPON WITH INTENT TO KILL INFLICTING SERIOUS INJURY SECURED $300,000.00

Anonymous said...

Sid -- Is it your expert medical opinion that someone stabbed in the torso multiple times (let's say 7) is NOT likely to develop an air embolism?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"'After he was shot, was President Garfield ever on the verge of being discharged home?'

I don't know. Do you?

I ask again, without access to the medical record, how do you know he was on the verge of going home."


My sources told me that Mr. Daye was walking around, talking, and had discussions with visitors in preparation for his discharge home.

I would very much like to see the medical records, including doctor's entries, nurses notes, vital signs, doctor's orders, etc. I do not have access to them unfortunately, and the media does not seem interested in obtaining them.

Anonymous said...

"I would very much like to see the medical records, including doctor's entries, nurses notes, vital signs, doctor's orders, etc. I do not have access to them unfortunately, and the media does not seem interested in obtaining them"

Come on, Sid -- you know the hospital is bound by patient confidentiality laws (HIPAA) and can't release this information.

You act like a reporter can walk into a hospital and simply request this information about any patient. How about you go to DUMC and ask for it -- report back here about how far you got.

Anonymous said...

"...and the media does not seem interested in obtaining them."

Sidney, as anonymous @ April 19, 2011 7:28 AM says, you know darn well the media can not get access to the record.

Your sources, I say, are your own imagination and your own wishful thinking. Let us also say, one of your sources might be your delusions of grandeur.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, would you have wanted Mr. Daye to testify in court under oath that Crystal Mangum stabbed him and took his money?

Anonymous said...

"My sources told me that Mr. Daye was walking around, talking, and had discussions with visitors in preparation for his discharge home."

That is not an answer to the question, without access to the Medical Record, how do you know what happened.

That is a dodge.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, are your sources the same ones who told Joe McCarthy there were communists in the government?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, are your sources the same ones who gave kilgo all his information about the Duke Rape hoax, the information he never discloses even though he claims it proves the guilt of the Lacrosse players?

Anonymous said...

Good Lord, Sid....your meds need adjusting. Let's see.....the theory is that somebody snuck into the hospital and filled up Daye with air, via injection (how sinister can you get, sid?) and the man died. Wow, Sid....how about we say that an evil ghost of duke lacrosse teams past floated out of the ceiling and put a hex spell on Daye? Or, perhaps Jackie W. or Wahneema swooped in on their brooms and stabbed the poor fellow?

Anonymous said...

"Friends said Mangum has never recovered from the stigma of the lacrosse case..."

This is taken from an Associated Press report.

Had she apologized to those she falsely accused, admitted to what she had done and asked for help, would that have gotten her over "the stigma of the lacrosse case"?

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sydney? said...

Anon @ 7:49 AM: "Friends said Mangum has never recovered from the stigma of the lacrosse case..."

And her 'friends' conveniently ignore her violent criminal record before 2006, and her stint in a psych facility in 2005. There may have been more.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, it seems obvious to me you were very reluctant to admit you did not have access to the Medical Record.

I say it is another manifestation of your delusions of grandeur that you think you can baffle the public with the BS you put out.

It is also a manifestation of your lack of brilliance.

Anonymous said...

To Whatchoo etc.

There must be much more. Her psych record, which consisted of more than one thousand pages, has been sealed.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sydney? said...

Anon @ 7:56 AM: Her psych record, which consisted of more than one thousand pages, has been sealed.

Crystal said during her 'book' debut that she wanted all the truth to come out.

Yet she refuses to release her psych records.

Chances are that they will be revealed at least partially during her murder trial.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, do you believe Mr. Daye should have his case heard in court?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, wouldn't a trial give Ms. Mangum the opportunity to exonerate herself?

Some of your posters have asked why the Lacrosse defendants were unwilling to exonerate themselves in court. Is Ms. Mangum unwillng to exonerate herself?

To put it another way, she can prove she is innocent. Or, should she be presumed innocent?

The evidence in the Lacrosse case shows that Ms. Mangum was not raped. Why do you have such heartburn over presuming that those accused of raping her are innocent?

Anonymous said...

"'After he was shot, was President Garfield ever on the verge of being discharged home?'"

Sidney, I say again, after he was shot, Mr. Garfield was taken to the White House.

Anonymous said...

Sid, don't quit your day job. Your future as a defender of "victims" ain't lookin' too swift. Mangum deserves NO prejudgement by you or anybody else, a fair trial, an impartial jury, competent counsel, and JUSTICE. That's one helluva lot more than you EVER would give the men who were, two days after the party, smeared by the pot-banging crowd with "castrate them" signs, abandoned and judged by Duke administration, crucified by local media, and vilified by left wing loonies in Durham and on the Duke faculty. Those men were INNOCENT. Mangum was then and is now a pathetic using liar. Whether she is a murderer is not up to YOU to decide. Get a life, Sid. You and Nifong deserve each other.
by the way, if you had one ounce of real concern, you would be focusing on the four REAL victims...Daye and the three children who have, no doubt, been damaged by the hell their mother has put them through.

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"if you had one ounce of real concern, you would be focusing
on the REAL victims... the three children who have, no doubt,
been damaged by the hell the Innocent Lacrosse team has put them through."


Here's a Great Idea for the

L I E S T O P P E R S.


Why don't you start a fundraiser to help

raise money to feed Crystal's children.

You can start with the

$400 Four Hundred Dollars

the Innocent Lacrosse Players

STOLE from Mangum

the night of their Drunken Orgy.


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Anonymous said...

kilgo again demonstrates he is incapable of meaningful comment

Anonymous said...

Sidney, might kilgo be one of your sources?

Anonymous said...

kilgo, what happened to the money Crystal took from Mr. Daye?

Anonymous said...

Here's a Great Idea for

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Why don't you start a fundraiser to

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We will start off with a contribution of $100.


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Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is not capable of meaningful comment.

Anonymous said...

Interesting that Sidney isn't complaining about Crystal being held without bond for her 2 latest charges.

When do we get to hear from Jackie Waggystaff on the blog? Telling us how we don't understand the 'black household'?

kenhyderal said...

I'll match your contribution. We'll need to send the money to Crystal's Lawyer, in trust so that Crystal can direct him where to send it.

Whatchoo talkin''bout, Sydney? said...

Ken Hyderal: We'll need to send the money to Crystal's Lawyer

Put it on her books at Durham County Jail, she could probably use it for honey buns and ramen noodles.

She's going to be there for a while, 2-3 years while awaiting trial.

Anonymous said...

KenHyderal said:"I'll match your contribution. We'll need to send the money to Crystal's Lawyer, in trust so that Crystal can direct him where to send it."

Are you the same Ken Hyderal - the camel molester from Dubai or Abu Dhabi or wherever who wouldn't put up Crystal's bail money during her last brush with the law?

What happened Ken? Conscience get the better of you? I seem to remember that you professed to have no funds in the USA to help with her bail. Things have obviously changed.

You libtards are complete idiots - suckers would be a better description. Does NC still has the Death Sentence? My hope is that is what she gets; or at least life without parole.

Anything longer than 90 years would be utterly appropriate.

Why 90 years I hear you ask? Well basically Ken: 90 = 3 x 30, which is the prison sentence each of RCD were facing for the non-rape non-assault Frame perpetrated by The Ho.

The Great Kilgo said...

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Thank You, Kenhyderal !


We are off to a great start.


The Mangum Family will certainly

appreciate the help.


We shall work out the particulars
such as the attorney's mailing address,
and see whether Sidney would allow
us to hold our fundraiser here at nifong's blog.

Thank You, Kenhyderal !


"kenhyderal said...

I'll match your contribution. We'll need to send the money
to Crystal's Lawyer, in trust so that Crystal can direct him
where to send it."

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kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said... Are you the same Ken Hyderal - the camel molester from Dubai or Abu Dhabi or wherever who wouldn't put up Crystal's bail money during her last brush with the law?
Unless I could have deposited the entire $100,000.00 in cash I was not eligible to post her bail bond because I had no property or any other attachable assets in the U.S.A. For an American with attachable assets she would be released for 10% of the amount.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/video?id=8052138

Sidney, this is an link to the 911 call placed by Mr. Daye's nephew.

The nephew says, Mr. Daye told him his girlfriend stabbed him and took his money.

The nephew identifies the girlfriend as 'the Crystal Mangum'.

Who besides Crystal and her friends would want to prevent Mr. Daye from saying that under oath in open court?"


I have no problem with Daye's nephew testifying in court, so long as it's truthful. What he said was not damaging to Crystal. My upcoming flog (Flash blog) will address many issues that the mainstream media has been misleading the gullible public about. It should be posted shortly after Easter.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sid, don't quit your day job. Your future as a defender of 'victims' ain't lookin' too swift. Mangum deserves NO prejudgement by you or anybody else, a fair trial, an impartial jury, competent counsel, and JUSTICE. That's one helluva lot more than you EVER would give the men who were, two days after the party, smeared by the pot-banging crowd with 'castrate them' signs, abandoned and judged by Duke administration, crucified by local media, and vilified by left wing loonies in Durham and on the Duke faculty. Those men were INNOCENT. Mangum was then and is now a pathetic using liar. Whether she is a murderer is not up to YOU to decide. Get a life, Sid. You and Nifong deserve each other.
by the way, if you had one ounce of real concern, you would be focusing on the four REAL victims...Daye and the three children who have, no doubt, been damaged by the hell their mother has put them through."


Now, I do not agree with people holding up "castrate them" signs, but I believe that pales in comparison with the excessive and biased media coverage directed at Mike Nifong and Crystal Mangum. Face it, the Duke Lacrosse defendants have been media darlings. Every chance it gets, the media misleads the public by claiming the boys were "innocent" and labeling Ms. Mangum as the "false accuser." Besides, each of the three Duke Lacrosse defendants have $20 mil to help assuage their hurt feelings.

Anonymous said...

"The (blue)Devil made her do it!!"

Apparently Crystal fans think that her entire life's problems, screw-ups, crimes (she HAS been convicted), shall-we-say, uh, interesting sexual history, tendency to, uh, stretch and embellish the "truth", fantasies about getting herself raped, and endless other misbehaviors....are ALL the fault of those evil Dukie lacrosse boys. Wow! Now, THAT's a bunch of power...... the lacrosse team apparently has a ghost from Crystal Past, able to maipulate her behavior BEFORE they ever met her. And, of course, the ghost of Crystal Future will forever be responsible for all her (excuse the pun...) "trials".

I have zero idea about whether Crystal will be convicted of murdering Daye. But, I know damn well what her defense is shaping up to be......" the Devil made me do it!"

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sydney? said...

Sidney: ...the media misleads the public by claiming the boys were "innocent" and labeling Ms. Mangum as the "false accuser."

There was no evidence of a crime having been committed, Sidney; hence the players were and are by definition innocent, and Crystal was & is a false accuser.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sydney? said...

Sidney: My upcoming flog (Flash blog) will address many issues that the mainstream media has been misleading the gullible public about.

Will that upcoming post be as bereft of actual facts as this current one is, Sidney?

Any word yet on whether or not Lonnie & wife will come to Crystal's rescue in the unlikely event that she's granted bail?

not anonymous said...

Rather than the vast media conspiracy to withhold all the info that you’re looking for….couldn’t it be that the media only reporting on the initial story because Mr. Daye was stabbed by a well know crackpot? From there Mr. Daye’s isn’t (no disrespect intended) important enough to warrant ongoing coverage of his condition?

Really enjoy the blog by the way...love your creative writing.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, the Lacrosse players committed no crime on the night of 13-14 March 2006. Therefore they are innocent as a matter of fact, not as a matter of media labelling.

They are not guilty just because you label them so.

By calling if false and misleading that they are innocent, you are labelling them as guilty.

Why do you believe any one finds you credible?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, why do you say the public is gullible. The public does not believe what you have said about the Duke case. That shows they are able to recognize a miscarriage of justice when they see one.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, if Crystal Mangum did accuse three Lacrosse players of raping her on the night of 13-14 March 2006, but the evidence shows she had not been raped by anyone on the night of 13-14 Mrch 2006, then why is it misleading to say she is a false accuser?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, the way you try to baffle the public with BS, it is obvious you believe thepublic is gullible.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, When Time Magazine published the mug shots of Mr. Seligman and Mr. Finnerty on its cover, was it treating them like media darlings?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, when the mainstream media gave Mr. Nifong all this time to make his inflammatory, guilt presuming statements, were they treatin the Lacrosse team like media darlingsa?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, should the current DA make remarks about Crystal Mangum similar to the remarks Mr. Nifong made about the Lacrosse team, would you consider them simply mild statements designed to get witnesses to come forward?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, why would you say the media is misleading the public when it says the Lacrosse defendants are innocent, unless you believed they were guilty.

What proof can you cite that shows they are guilty.

Crystal's word is just her word. It is not proof.

Crystal's identifications were not reliable and were the product of an improper tainted lineup procedure.

Did it ever occur to you that a woman falsely accusing men of rape would make identifications simply to maintain her false accusations?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, before there was any evidence, Mr. Nifong was publicly saying a rape had occurred on the night of 13-14 March, 2006, that members of the Lacrosse team had perpetrated the rape, and it had been racially motivated.

How would you feel if the Durham DA publicly announced, pre-indictment, pre grand jury, that Mr. Daye had been murdered, that Ms. Mangum had killed him, and that robbery was the motive?

Anonymous said...

"Besides, each of the three Duke Lacrosse defendants have $20 mil to help assuage their hurt feelings."

Sidney, I do believe you will get such a payoff from Duke.

Dream on.

Anonymous said...

From: TRYTON77

It's good to see the skag getting her just reward :) Life in prison.. I giggle and smile inside every time I see her on TV in her new orange stripper outfit.

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Anonymous said...

Kilgo:

Did you put some dollahs on the skank's books like someone suggested above? Swampwoman is gonna need the $$ more than her kids - her fambly is awash with welfare checks and foodstamps, so the kids aren't starving (except for a good mother's love, of course).

The Louve of DNA is going to be in County for quite some time, do the bitch a solit & give her some money.

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment.

The Great Kilgo said...

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Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment.

The Great Kilgo said...

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Yes, Life is Good for the

L I E S T O P P E R S,


For the Gift that keeps on Giving.


The Duke University

Men's Lacrosse Team


Gang- Rape Scandal ! !


Whooppeee !



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Anonymous said...

kilgo shows again he is incapable of commenting meaningfully on the Duke false rape accuser.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sydney? said...

The lesser kilgo: For the Gift that keeps on Giving.


aka, Crystal Mangum. Liar, thief, stripper, prostitute, arsonist, child abuser, and now, Murderer.

The skank that Duke staked its reputation & million$ on, and lost both.

The Great Kilgo said...
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Anonymous said...

Duke University saved those boys' asses.

How so, kilgo?

The Great Kilgo said...

oops, that was supposed to be secret.

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment about the innocent, falsely accused Duke Lacrosse players.

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment about the false tape accuser who victimizes the innocent Duke Lacrosse players.

Anonymous said...

"I have no problem with Daye's nephew testifying in court, so long as it's truthful."

Sidney, you support Crystsl Mangum and her rape accusations even though evidence shows those allegations were not truthful.

Can we say Inconsistency boys and girls?

Anonymous said...

kilgo again shows he is incapable of meaningful comment about the false rape accuser who victimizes the innocent Duke Lacrosse players.

corrected comment

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you say it is false and misleading to call Ms. Mangum a false accuser.

You believe her allegations that three Duke Lacrosse players raped her.

You believe the Lacrosse players are guilty.

Explain your belief that they are guilty even though evidence shows that Ms. Mangum's allegations were false.

Anonymous said...

Note: Sidney's foray into the "flog" or flash blog is a transition away from the written blog. He will eventually quit publishing the script and leave only the spoken text. This is an attempt to:
1. Force us to listen to him (as he loves to hear himself talk)
2. By removing the written script he hopes to cut down on the negative commenting. Since those who wish to quote him, or rebut him will have the extra step of transcription.

Anonymous said...

Sidney, you repeatedly claim that the Lacrosse players could have assaulted Ms. Mangum without leaving evidence.

I could say you could possibly deal drugs without leaving evidence.

Would that justify me in believing you guilty of drug dealing?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, let's take this a little farther.

Say, the police break up a drug deal in process. The arrest the buyer. The seller gets away.

The seller says, I can identify with 100% certainty that Sidney Harr sold me drugs. You can prove with 100% certainty you did not.

Should the prosecutor proceed to charge you with drug dealing based on the buyer's 100% certain id of you? Or, should the prosecutor review your alibi evidence before filing charges?

Why was Mike Nifong reluctant to look at Mr. Seligman's alibi evidence. Why did Mr. Nifong have arrested a witness who could support Mr. Seligman's alibi?

Anonymous said...

Sidney, let's take this a little farther.

Say, the police break up a drug deal in process. The arrest the buyer. The seller gets away.

The buyer says, I can identify with 100% certainty that Sidney Harr sold me drugs. You can prove with 100% certainty you did not.

Should the prosecutor proceed to charge you with drug dealing based on the buyer's 100% certain id of you? Or, should the prosecutor review your alibi evidence before filing charges?

Why was Mike Nifong reluctant to look at Mr. Seligman's alibi evidence. Why did Mr. Nifong have arrested a witness who could support Mr. Seligman's alibi?

corrected comment.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Note: Sidney's foray into the 'flog' or flash blog is a transition away from the written blog. He will eventually quit publishing the script and leave only the spoken text. This is an attempt to:
1. Force us to listen to him (as he loves to hear himself talk)
2. By removing the written script he hopes to cut down on the negative commenting. Since those who wish to quote him, or rebut him will have the extra step of transcription."


It actually was my intention to wean off the written word, but I will continue to post the text of the flog on the blog site as I have already done. To get the most of the story, I suggest the flog because I can introduce documents, diagrams, images, animation, etc, while I talk. Besides, many people don't enjoy reading.

Anonymous said...

"Besides, many people don't enjoy reading."

I would rather read than listen :-).

Anonymous said...

As we say in Texas, "Big hat (ego), no cows (brain)".....YeeHaw, Sid.....keep on, keepin'on with the flog, or flap, or flake....whatever.

The rest of us blind gullible deluded ignert lemmings will sure want to hear YOUR enlightened version of the truth!
Once again, let the jury decide if Mangum is guilty of murder. Not you, not me. Once again, the rape that never was, STILL did not happen.
By the way, your so-called "sources" either do not exsit OR they lied to you. If anybody on the Duke payroll leaked confidential patient information to you, you BOTH can be charged with a rather serious federal violation of HIPPA regulations. If I were you, Sid, I'd be a little nervous about advertising that you and your vaporous "sources" violated patient confidentiality and privacy rights.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"As we say in Texas, 'Big hat (ego), no cows (brain)'.....YeeHaw, Sid.....keep on, keepin'on with the flog, or flap, or flake....whatever.

The rest of us blind gullible deluded ignert lemmings will sure want to hear YOUR enlightened version of the truth!
Once again, let the jury decide if Mangum is guilty of murder. Not you, not me. Once again, the rape that never was, STILL did not happen.
By the way, your so-called 'sources' either do not exsit OR they lied to you. If anybody on the Duke payroll leaked confidential patient information to you, you BOTH can be charged with a rather serious federal violation of HIPPA regulations. If I were you, Sid, I'd be a little nervous about advertising that you and your vaporous 'sources' violated patient confidentiality and privacy rights."


First of all, it doesn't take someone on the Duke Hospital payroll to know whether a patient is up and walking around, talking and making calls to family about getting ready for discharge.
Follow my flogs or blogs, if you prefer to read, and you will learn the truth. They will be uploaded online shortly. By taking advantage of the truth I report, you can overcome your ignorance you share with many who are misled by the mainstream media.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, let's take this a little farther.

Say, the police break up a drug deal in process. The arrest the buyer. The seller gets away.

The buyer says, I can identify with 100% certainty that Sidney Harr sold me drugs. You can prove with 100% certainty you did not.

Should the prosecutor proceed to charge you with drug dealing based on the buyer's 100% certain id of you? Or, should the prosecutor review your alibi evidence before filing charges?

Why was Mike Nifong reluctant to look at Mr. Seligman's alibi evidence. Why did Mr. Nifong have arrested a witness who could support Mr. Seligman's alibi?

corrected comment."


Your analogy comparing the drug dealing participants with the Duke Lacrosse alleged assault is like comparing apples with eggplant. The drug people were both engaged in a criminal transaction. In the Duke Lacrosse case a victim accused others of assaulting her. To compare them is a quantum leap that even I cannot make.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"Sidney, wouldn't a trial give Ms. Mangum the opportunity to exonerate herself?

Some of your posters have asked why the Lacrosse defendants were unwilling to exonerate themselves in court. Is Ms. Mangum unwillng to exonerate herself?

To put it another way, she can prove she is innocent. Or, should she be presumed innocent?

The evidence in the Lacrosse case shows that Ms. Mangum was not raped. Why do you have such heartburn over presuming that those accused of raping her are innocent?"


I have very serious doubts as to whether Ms. Mangum should have even been arrested in the stabbing of Reginald Daye, much less charged with his murder. My upcoming flog will explain everything in great detail.

Anonymous said...

"I have very serious doubts as to whether Ms. Mangum should have even been arrested in the stabbing of Reginald Daye, much less charged with his murder."

You also have very serious doubts about the innocence of the Lacrosse players, even though evidence shows no crime had been committed(we are talking about rape, not underage drinking).

That kind of thing gives me and a lot of other very serious doubts about you.

You are dodging the questions.

Can we say evasive, boys and girls.

Anonymous said...

"In the Duke Lacrosse case a victim accused others of assaulting her."

CORRECTION!!!! The ALLEGED victim falsely accused others of assaulting her. You have never shown any evidence she was assaulted.

In the drug analogy, someone was falsely accusing you of dealing drugs. The question was, should you have been prosecuted on the basis of the false allegation, or should you be allowed to present evidence which exonerated you.

Mr. Nifong was offered the opportunity to see evidence which would exonerate someone who was accused of a crime. He refused and tried to prosecute the individual in the absence of any evidence which incriminated that individual.

In that hypothetical situation, you would have been accused of drug dealing. The question is, whether or not the prosecutor should have treated you the way Mike Nifong treated the Duke defendants. You are unwilling to answer that question because you do realize that Mr. Nifong was not justified in bringing any charges against the Duke Defendants.

Anonymous said...

"First of all, it doesn't take someone on the Duke Hospital payroll to know whether a patient is up and walking around, talking and making calls to family about getting ready for discharge."

So how do you know it. All you cite are unnamed sources. Did any friend of Crystal visit Mr. Daye in the hospital? I think none of them would have been allowed access.

You have displayed virtually no knowledge of familiarity with chest trauma or the consequences thereof.

Name your sources, if you can. Or are those sources the same sources for kilgo's knowledge about the rape case.

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