Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Public response to injustice against Crystal Mangum



I am not alone in my view that the prosecution and persecution of Crystal Gail Mangum is nothing more than a vendetta by the state and the mainstream media because of her role as a victim and accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case of March 2006. Although many people share my view that Mangum is a victim of vindictiveness spawned ultimately by the actions of the Carpetbagger Duke Lacrosse defendants’ families, few of them are willing to publicly express it.

Many people keep their feelings about this case bundled up inside because they lack the will to do anything to rectify the failings of the state’s justice system. Others remain quiet because they lack the courage to take a righteous stand against an unpopular position. This is understandable after witnessing the brutalization of former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong by the state and the media for his actions in doing the right thing in prosecuting the Duke Lacrosse case. Courageously prosecuting the Duke case in the true sense as a “minister of justice,” he butted heads with the Powers-That-Be who demanded that the charges against the student/athlete/partygoers be dropped. As a result, the state went through extraordinary means to make an example of Mr. Nifong… something which they did very well, as is evidenced by the fact that there is little if any movement to go against the Powers’ will by offering support to Ms. Mangum.

I have not tallied the members of the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong on the issue, but I am sure that the majority, if not all, would be supportive of Ms. Mangum and demand that the murder and larceny charges she now face be dismissed. Those who should take a stand on her behalf and who are not are the politicians who represent Durham and its residents… Senator Floyd McKissick, Representatives Larry Hall and Mickey Michaux, and Congressman David Price. They have all remained idle and silent when it comes to the unjust treatment she has sustained… languishing in jail now for more than 450 days on bogus charges based on a flawed and fraudulent autopsy report. Unfortunately, civil rights organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), North Carolina Coalition Against Domestic Violence, and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) have been quiet as dormice when it comes to Crystal Mangum’s case.

The Christian clergy preach to their flock on Sunday about acting Christ-like in the pursuit of their daily lives, yet even the ministers steer clear when it comes Crystal Mangum’s case. Do they really believe that if the Man from Nazareth was roaming the planet today and made a stop in the Triangle Area that He would be mum and say nothing about the immoral and un-Christian-like treatment of Ms. Mangum? I can envision Him now raising a ruckus like he did amongst the lenders with high interest rates (equivalent to bankers back in the day).

However, there is a man who has the courage to speak out and the desire to do something to see that justice is served. His name is Riccardo Darnell Jones, and he was moved to speak out about the injustice he perceived in the charges against Crystal Mangum. Mr. Jones accurately determined that the Durham prosecution team had discarded its role as “minister of justice” in an attempt to seek vengeance against Mangum because of her actions in the Duke Lacrosse case… the prosecution going to extremes in an attempt to saddle her with a lengthy imprisonment… life without parole if possible.

Mr. Jones drafted a motion on May 26, 2011, which was filed in Crystal Mangum’s criminal folder on June 3, 2011. Not an elected politician, not a man of the cloth, and not an employee of a civil rights organization, Mr. Jones is a man who believes in justice and is willing to fight for it for others. The irony is that Riccardo Darnell Jones is incarcerated at Central Prison in Raleigh, but yet he is doing more to serve the interests of Lady Justice than the politicians, civil rights activists, ministers, and most so-called law-abiding citizens. He is deserving of our gratitude.

To view the motion by Riccardo Darnell Jones that is on file in Crystal Mangum’s file click the link below:

LINK: http://www.justice4nifong.com/legal/cgm/motionRDJ052611.htm

96 comments:

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

The explanatio of all you observe in this latest delusional blog post is, Crystal has exposed herself as a false accuser and, consequently, no reasonable person believes her any more.

You and your justice4nifong group do not count as reasonable people

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HRR:

That link you posted is a link to a document which does nothing but make unsubstantiated allegations.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Others remain quiet because they lack the courage to take a righteous stand against an unpopular position."

It does not take courage to take a stand "AGAINST an UNPOPULAR position(emphasis added)".

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"[Crystal has been] languishing in jail now for more than 450 days on bogus charges based on a flawed and fraudulent autopsy report".

What expert(you are not an expert) says the autopsy report was flawed and fraudulent?

Woody Vann's expert has yet to emerge.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Do they really believe that if the Man from Nazareth was roaming the planet today and made a stop in the Triangle Area that He would be mum and say nothing about the immoral and un-Christian-like treatment of Ms. Mangum?"

What Jesus Christ would say about Crystal today I am not in a position to say.

I do believe he would say that the false allegations to which she subjected the innocent Lacrosse players were immoral and un Christian.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"However, there is a man who has the courage to speak out and the desire to do something to see that justice is served. His name is Riccardo Darnell Jones, and he was moved to speak out about the injustice he perceived in the charges against Crystal Mangum. Mr. Jones accurately determined that the Durham prosecution team had discarded its role as “minister of justice” in an attempt to seek vengeance against Mangum because of her actions in the Duke Lacrosse case".

Riccardo Darnell Jones filed a document which was an undocumented unsupported allegation, nothing more.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The irony is that Riccardo Darnell Jones is incarcerated at Central Prison in Raleigh, but yet he is doing more to serve the interests of Lady Justice than the politicians, civil rights activists, ministers, and most so-called law-abiding citizens".

The proper interpretation is, people who initially believed in Crystal, including but not limited to, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Kilgo, Justice58, realize she is a false accuser and they are distancing themselves from her in a vain attempt to convince the world they did not really support her.

The same goes for the gang of 88.

Lance the Intern said...

Sid - A couple of comments...You stated "...he butted heads with the Powers-That-Be who demanded that the charges against the student/athlete/partygoers be dropped..."
Nifong did, in fact, drop the rape charges in December 2006 once he got around to interviewing Crystal Mangum. He asked to be taken off the case in January of 2007.
Finally interviewing Crystal Mangum 9 months after the alleged incident, then asking to be taken off the case 1 month later is hardly the actions of a "true minister of justice".

You also stated in regards to ministers "...Do they really believe that if the Man from Nazareth was roaming the planet today and made a stop in the Triangle Area that He would be mum and say nothing about the immoral and un-Christian-like treatment of Ms. Mangum?"
I would say yes -- ministers believe that if Jesus is roaming the planet, then the parousia has occurred. As we say in the Nicene Creed:
"...He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. ... We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."
Do you grasp the point I'm making here? The concept you are trying to make is totally alien to the belief system in the Christian Church. With your many references to "the man from Nazareth", I would expect you to know that.

On another note..That the various organizations you mention (NAACP, ACLU, NCCADV), and other community leaders are quiet in regards to Crystal Mangum should give you pause.

Finally, in regards to Mr. Jones, were I Crystal Mangum I would respectfully ask that someone of his...sterling reputation NOT speak up for me.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

More of the same old incredibly unbelievable BULLSHIT!

It is no more believable now than when you first published it.

Just about all of the reasonable people have recognized this.

You, your J4N gang and KENHYDERAL do not qualify as reasonable people.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"This is understandable after witnessing the brutalization of former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong by the state and the media for his actions in doing the right thing in prosecuting the Duke Lacrosse case."

What DA NIFONG did was make public, inflammatory statements presuming the guilt of members of the Lacrosse team, and undermining certain other fundamental rights, right to counsel, right to remain silent.

He had no evidence that the rape happened in the first place.

He had no evidence implicating any member of the Lacrosse team yet he prosecuted them anyway.

He, via the improperly conducted lineup, tried to manufacture evidence against members of the Lacrosse team.

He tried to intimidate a witness whose statement supported the alibi of one of the accused Lacrosse players.

He tried to conceal exculpatory evidence from the accused Lacrosse players(your opinion that the evidence was not exculpatory has no legal or moral weight, it only shows you do not understand the meaning of "exculpatory").

He lied to the court about what exculpatory evidence he had(see my comment above about your knowledge of what is exculpatory).

And you say DA NIFONG did the right thing in prosecuting the Lacrosse players.

SIDNEY, you are truly delusional.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Unfortunately, civil rights organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), North Carolina Coalition Against Domestic Violence, and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) have been quiet as dormice when it comes to Crystal Mangum’s case."

That is because all those organizations have realized Crystal, when she accused the Innocent Lacrosse players, was a false accuser.

That you refuse to realize it does not make your opinion valid.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Mr. Jones accurately determined that the Durham prosecution team had discarded its role as 'minister of justice' in an attempt to seek vengeance against Mangum because of her actions in the Duke Lacrosse case".

How did he determine that? By listening to your diatribes over the exoneration of the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players?

Via your statement that DA NIFONG did the right thing in prosecuting said innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players, shows you do not comprehend what a true minister of justice is.

The Lacrosse players were innocent as a matter of fact, not a matter of proclamation. The crime of which they were accused of perpetrating did not happen.

Anonymous said...

Ah...Mr. Jones. The would-be future ex-Mr. Mangum...He needs to pay a little closer attention to the plight of Reginald Daye than that of Crystal Mangum.

It may (literally) save his life in the future.

Anonymous said...

wow, the hits just keep on com in....don't they!!! As lance said, Jones would be among the last people I would want on my side...as would you, hard.
This installment is just another piece of nonsense. The Jesus reference does get a bit old though. I have no clue what Jesus would say if he were embodied and here in the form of a mortal. Don't' know about ya"ll but Jesus doesn't personally sit down with me, over a beer, and discuss his next moves.
But I would hope he would bring comfort to the Daye family and to the children who have been so mistreated by their exposure to life with Mangum. I would also think he might have a word or two with Sister over her lying and with Nifong over his , uh, amoral plunge into lawyer oblivion.
Sidney is just rattling on, as usual. This silliness with Jones is more evidence of just how far out into fairyland he has flown.

Anonymous said...

Geez, Jones must be a real sweetheart....robbery, drug possession and sales, assault, felony drug sales, ......multiple convictions and prison term(s). Such a fine upstanding citizen......Yep, the kind of man I would love to take home to Mom and Dad.
So, let's see.....we add a new member to the wing nut collection at j4n......a homophobic bigoted racist ranting woman, harr-the-wingnut-in-chief, plus a true rogue's gallery of supporters. (how many, now, harr?...enough to fill DPAC? The phone booth in the lobby of the Durham jail?
Harr just continues to make an ass of himself and that's really OK......this being a free country and all....

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

There is a mug shot of Riccardo Darnell Jones posted on the internet, from Charlotte NC. The charge was assault on a female, non aggressive physical force.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

http://dockets.justia.com/search?q=Riccardo+Darnell+Jones

Riccardo Darnell Jones has a history of filing multiple civil rights law suits, most of which seem to be frivolous.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/nc-mcso/2012-01-25/riccardo-darnell-jones-1523025-098763

Riccardo Darnell Jones was also arrested for an open container violation, something which you seem to think renders the Duke Lacrosse team a bunch of beer guzzling stripper ogling bacchanalia organizers.

Anonymous said...

I really enjoyed reading the Jones bit......real classy bit that. A drug pusher, convicted felon, violent, weapon-using, I'm black-and-that's-why-I-am-in-prison fellow. And THIS is the person who KNOWS that Mangum is a fine upstanding citizen who wound't hurt anybody, except when she needs to??? wow, hard, even you must be laughing' at this one. Of course, I am absolutely 100% certain Jones would tell us all that the evil white oppressor conspiracy is responsible for all his choices, his crimes, his convictions, and his prison terms. Of course.
Once again hard proves his real intentions and motives........to draw attention to himself and to further his deeply racist worldview.
sad.

Anonymous said...

Jones is deserving of my gratitude, Sidney? A drug selling convicted felon whose criminal record is longer than Mangum's? My gratitude, bro? A creep who put drugs on the street, who was convicted of robbery and assault? My gratitude? A sorry excuse for a person who has engaged in a wide range of criminal activities both in and out of prison?
You slobber on him yourself and go hold his hand.....he's your type.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

This is really rich, in a sick way.

You condemn the Lacrosse team, whose so called criminal record consists of a relatively small number of misdemeanor offenses - you call that record justification to believe the Lacrosse players were rapists - but you hold up a convicted, multi time loser felon as a champion of justice because he wants Crystal released.

What can you expect from a man who thinks DA NIFONG did the right thing when he obviously wrongfully prosecuted innocent men.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"[Crystal has been] languishing in jail now for more than 450 days on bogus charges based on a flawed and fraudulent autopsy report".

What expert(you are not an expert) says the autopsy report was flawed and fraudulent?

Woody Vann's expert has yet to emerge.


Woody has retained an expert by the name of Christena Roberts, M.D. She is from a firm in Black Mountain, NC, and I will have more about her in a couple of days.

Anonymous said...

Not licensed in NC ? Not showing up with state board

Anonymous said...

Ah found her. A freelancer professional witness. Runs her own consulting company and does private autopsies. Ordinarily this would be the kind of physician harr would trash immediately, saying this is nothing but a hired gun. But since she is being hired by Vann, i suspect we will get treated to a stomach turning, diabetes inducing barrel of sugar dumped on her head.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Woody has retained an expert by the name of Christena Roberts, M.D. She is from a firm in Black Mountain, NC, and I will have more about her in a couple of days."

With regard to Christena Roberts, M.D., a CV(http://cjconsultingofamerica.com/2.html) lists her, as of 2010, as Board eligible, not board certified. She completed her post graduate professional training in 2005.

Most residency graduates certify well within less than 5 years.

The last time i checked American Board of Surgery requirements for certification, a residency graduate who did not certify within two years of residency completion was no longer board eligible. That was several years ago and requirements may be more stringent now.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Dr. Roberts' practice is a one person consulting firm. She is not in active practice in any hospital or in any medical examiner's office now.

She can not match Dr. Nichols in experience.

Anonymous said...

I find it truly ironic that people like harr and kenny hissy play the jesus card whenever they want to take the moral high ground and sermonize. You'd think some of that christian charity would be directed to the Daye family. Harr has his usual deck of cards that he plays: The man from Naz ( bethlehem actually), the all white people are evil except nifong, the grand white conspiracy card, the sources said so card, the mangum tales card, and , my personal favorite, the I am a retired doctor card.
Yep.........now we can add the " bigots and drug dealers unite in solidarity" card. Wheeeeeeee

Anonymous said...

Sid:

Are you trying to convince anyone? Or are you just going through the motions?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

According to the Virginia Board of Medicine, Christena Lynn Roberts is not board certified.

Sending her up against Dr. Nichols would be like(in honor of the bicentennial of the War of 1812) sending HMS Guerriere up against the USS Constitution.

Anonymous said...

"She stabbed him. He died.". Nichols

-30-

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

While we are on the subject of credentials as a medical expert, why did you mis represent Dr. Julie Manly as an "experienced gynecologist"?

Anonymous said...

Manly was never Ob-Gyn. And certainly not experienced. Another lie by ken? Another example of ignorance? Deliberate misrepresentation?
He and Harr have been doing this stuff for several years.
There was no evidence of rape. Diffuse edema in female genitalia has many mnay causes.......
There WAS evidence of mangum's sexual activity with multiple males.......NONE of whom were ANY lax players. ( as the lab results proved to nifong) She told yet another lie when she claimed to have had only one sex partner and that the encounter was with her boyfriend a week prior to the lax party. That story was a lie, as we now know.

Anonymous said...

KENHYDERAL:

While we are on the subject of misrepresentation, why did you misrepresent Tara Levicy as an experienced SANE? Why did you misrepresent who performed the physical examination? Why did you misrepresent that the medical record noted injuries consistent with rape?

Anonymous said...

Don't you love this edition of the Harr fantasies? Now he is telling us that "many" people are all bottled up and scared to speak up about poor MMangum. Reallllly, Harr? Name just ONE teeeeeny little hard core bit of verifiable reliable evidence to support that particular spoonful of rubbish.
Can't do it?
Well, tell you what......let's just say that I say that there are "many" out there who have had a total bellyfull of this woman, this professional victim, and convicted criminal, and we are sick and tired of the lamebrain wingnuts, like you, who use oxygen and bandwidth to bore us to death with your crap. Let's just say that "many" want a FAIR TRIAL for Mangum, and want it to happen soon, and want JUSTICE to prevail. If she is found innocent, then let's just say that "many" of us wouild be happy to buy her a ticket to canada, so she can be with her BFF, Kenny. And, let's just say, IF she is found guilty, then "many" of us hope she goes to prison.
Let's just say THAT!

Lance the Intern said...

Anyone noticed Mr. Jones signature? The way he put the little "Rx" symbol as the first letter of his first name?

Sidney -- what does "Rx" mean?

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Harr has himself to thank at Mangum continues to sit in jail, awaiting a trial date. To what extent (how many months?) has his busy-bodying intrusion (that caused Shella to bail) added delays? And what if Vann, who Mangum most definitely did NOT want to represent her a year go, proves out to be, in Harr's estimate, less than worthy? (translated, what if Vann tells Mangum her best bet is to take a plea deal). Then, will be hear an endless rant from Harr on how the evil white people bought Vann? Hmmmmmm?
As for the nonsense from Jones, consider the source. Jones is the prototype jailhouse pseudo lawyer, just like Harr.
Questions that interest me at this point are:
1. Will the charge of first degree stick?
2. Will Mangum take a lesser plea deal, as advised by Vann, in order to avoid being cross examined. Somebody said it would be Vann's worst nightmare, and they are right!
3. Will Vann figure out how to "prove" self defense without putting Mangum on the stand?
4. Will the hired gun , Dr. Roberts, try to say that Daye died of medical homicide, as Harr has claimed?
5. Will Mangum wind up with second degree or manslaughter and get a short sentence?
If I were a bettin' person, I would say she is going to get voluntary manslaughter and five years, or less.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Jones thinks his little Rx is cute....given that he has done prison time for drug possession and sales.
Perhaps the "booking agent" (pimp) who ran the exotic dancer web site where Crystal "Precious" Mangum got her clients would sign his name, "John" Smith.

Anonymous said...

i particularly liked Jones' flashy penmanship, starting all the handwritten words with capital letters. Nice touch. I guess he thinks that makes him look smart.......behind the jump suit and prison haircut

Anonymous said...

saw the s. court ruling upholding the mandate......on the basis that the government has authority to tax. so, let'\s call it what the court says it is, a tax......not a penalty. It will be the single largest tax hike in our history. now let\s see what the republicans will do. this may be the straw that sets afire the republicans and defeats obama. who knows. I would expect we will get a big dose of socialist crowing from harr.....power to the people and all that.

Anonymous said...

More Jeopardy

Answer: Public response to injustice against Crystal Mangum

Question: What injustice.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @ 4:02 said: "While we are on the subject of misrepresentation, why did you misrepresent Tara Levicy as an experienced SANE? Why did you misrepresent who performed the physical examination? Why did you misrepresent that the medical record noted injuries consistent with rape" ......... Here is a more balance view from the NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/25/us/25duke.html?pagewanted=all

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I am not alone in my view that the prosecution and persecution of Crystal Gail Mangum is nothing more than a vendetta by the state and the mainstream media because of her role as a victim and accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case of March 2006."

Right you are. Convicted felon Riccardo Darnell Jones thinks Crystal is being prosecuted because of her role in the phony Duke Lacrosse rape case.

Great support you have, Sidney.

Anonymous said...

This from the appropriately named Liestoppers.

The North Carolina Bar is taking up the issue of SIDNEY's unauthorized practice of law.

Anonymous said...

Here's a thought.

Maybe Woody Vann asked KENHYDERAL to recommend an experienced forensic pathologist, and KENHYDERAL recommended Dr. Christena Roberts.

KENHYDERAL thinks he is quite astute at evaluating the experience of health care providers.

Lance the Intern said...

Sid has filed 3 additional motions for Crystal -- asking to
1) Lower her bail to $50,000.
2) Dismiss the larceny charge.
3) Dismiss the murder charge.

In the murder dismissal motion, Sid states "...Where defendant, facing actual and apparent danger of great bodily harm at the hands of the person assaulted, there unto exists the claim of perfect self-defense"

Sid has never mentioned the concept of "perfect self-defense" -- it's something I brought up in an earlier post.

Sid -- I would like to thank you for recognizing my knowledge in this area, and for using it as a springboard for your "work" for Crystal.

With that said, don't mention my name when you meet with the North Carolina Bar's Unauthorized Practice of law Committee ;)

Lance the Intern said...

The Herald-Sun's article regarding Sidney and the N.C. Bar can be viewed here

Lance the Intern said...

Sid -- You need to stop "assisting" Crystal with these motions. The argument in the motion to dismiss the murder charge regarding self-defense can only be made during the trial. This motion will definitely fail because it is procedurally wrong.

By making the motion now, she's basically telling the DA's office "here's my defense"...

Harr Supporter said...

Lance:

You misunderstand Sidney's role in these filings. The article clearly indicated that Mangum wrote out the filings longhand. She then mailed the filings to Sidney (rather than mailing them directly to the court) and Sidney hand delivered them.

Sidney obviously had no role in assisting Mangum in either drafting the motions or discussing the arguments she would make. She must be aware of the concept of "perfect self-defense" from her NCCU days. She must have forgotten the procedural issues.

We know that Sidney had no role in the preparation of these motions. After his last episode, he apparently wrote a letter to the State Bar claiming ignorance of the rules and promising to never, ever do it again. If the Bar thought that he broke his promise again just before his July 17 hearing, they might not be lenient.

I look forward to Sidney posting Mangum's filings. I am confident that the arguments she raises will be quite different than the arguments Sidney made in the last filings, which echoed those he makes on this blog. I am also confident that Mangum's writing style will be quite different from Sidney's style. The earlier filings appeared to have been written by the author of the posts on this blog

Finally, I wonder how Woody Vann will react to a client filing pro se without his knowledge or involvement. Shella withdrew. Will Mangum move on to her third counsel with yet more delays?

Lance the Intern said...

As I read the article, I couldn't help but wonder how many "Sid-isms" we'd find in the new motions.

I can't wait to see them posted.

Anonymous said...

Sid is going to get his backside in trouble. CanT wait. After saying he would not do it again, he does it again. Mangum got a pity degree from the same place that gave us no conscious cline.......mangum never heard of the four elements of perfect self defense till harr saw it on ths site, from mlance, and gave it to her. An idiot has more brains.

Anonymous said...

"I have not tallied the members of the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong on the issue, but I am sure that the majority, if not all, would be supportive of Ms. Mangum and demand that the murder and larceny charges she now face be dismissed."


Bahahahahahahahaha

Bahahahahahahahaha

Bahahahahahahahaha


The members of the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong?


Bahahahahahahahaha

Bahahahahahahahaha

Bahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

You da man, Sid, you da man.

Anonymous said...

Tallied? Lets see.......one, two, three, (clank, prison door shutting.....),four........uh, six, er, uh,five and a half......

Vann has got to be having a rigor.......
Sidney wrote those silly motions and we all know it. Comical,and pathetic.

Anonymous said...

There is a post on the appropriately named Liestoppers about how a self defense has to be presented as a defense to a murder charge. Basically Crystal's attorney has to prove self defense at trial.

What makes this ironic is that SIDNEY HARR has been posting that if he has anything to say about it, the charges against Crystal will be dismissed before the case gets to trial.

Anonymous said...

The NYTimes is balanced? Wow, kenny once again shows his ignorance. The liberal rag for Obama is balanced? Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Thats like saying the Klan Gazette has a nice article in it on the "coloreds" !!!!
Poor kenny...........he needs to get out more or find a hobby

Anonymous said...

Harr is in trouble. This nonsense about simply being a courier will not fly with the Board. I bet you Vann is pushing the Bar to force Harr to desist......an injunction maybe, Lance? Or a threat to walk on the case? Can a judge intervene and restrict Mangum's behavior?
This would be funny if it were not so unfair for Mangum, who is obviously unable to discern the difference between a lawyer and a loon.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

Dr. Roberts' practice is a one person consulting firm. She is not in active practice in any hospital or in any medical examiner's office now.

She can not match Dr. Nichols in experience.


To me it is more important that an expert have integrity than experience or credentials. What good is a report from an expert if it is filled with lies and misleading statements and conclusions?

Lance the Intern said...

Sid -- You know what you call an "expert" without experience or credentials?

An amateur

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
Sid -- You know what you call an "expert" without experience or credentials?

An amateur


Lance, I would rather rely on the report of an honest amateur than the report of a fabricating expert with experience and credentials.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
"She stabbed him. He died.". Nichols


There was a lot that happened betwixt the time Daye was stabbed on April 3, 2011 and ten days later when he died on April 13, 2011. What Dr. Nichols, as a medical examiner, glaringly failed to do is explain what caused his death. He conveniently omitted Daye's problem with alcohol and the withdrawal symptoms, problems with intubation, and the fact that Daye died after being removed from life support. To say that Daye was stabbed and then died doesn't require a medical examiner. Any layperson is aware of that... What Dr. Nichols fails to do is explain why Daye died. A major failing.

Lance the Intern said...

Yes - And I'm sure you'd prefer to go to a "physician" who has no medical education instead of a real medically-trained doctor.

But this ridiculous argument aside, why don't you take a few moments to look at (and respond to) a number of posts here that are either responses to your blog entry or the latest in the ongoing "Crystal files 3 motions" saga...Do you plan to post those new motions? If so, when?

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Lance the Intern said...

"What Dr. Nichols fails to do is explain why Daye died. A major failing"

I can address those -- with no experience or credentials :)

What caused the problems with Mr. Daye's intubation? He was stabbed.
What caused Mr. Daye to die after being removed from life support? He was stabbed.

Nifong Supporter said...

Directory about the NC State Bar's investigation on Harr

Anonymous said...

I read the harr response to the nc bar. Very embarrassing and sad for sidney. Shamefully sad.

Anonymous said...

Is mangum going to court for some kind of hearing this week.........with Vann? Did Vann know about these latest motions?
The crackpot harr has practiced law again.........his writing is all over the motin language

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
I read the harr response to the nc bar. Very embarrassing and sad for sidney. Shamefully sad.


Actually, I thought my response was very organized and comprehensive. It is obvious that you really couldn't find fault with it... that's why the short reply. Nothing to criticize.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Is mangum going to court for some kind of hearing this week.........with Vann? Did Vann know about these latest motions?
The crackpot harr has practiced law again.........his writing is all over the motin language


To my knowledge Crystal is not going to court this week or anytime soon. Mr. Vann did learn of the motions after they were filed.

Regarding the motions that were filed, they definitely do not show my influence, as my writing tends to be more poetic and very long-winded.

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
"What Dr. Nichols fails to do is explain why Daye died. A major failing"

I can address those -- with no experience or credentials :)

What caused the problems with Mr. Daye's intubation? He was stabbed.
What caused Mr. Daye to die after being removed from life support? He was stabbed.


What caused the problems with Mr. Daye's intubation is that the tube was placed in the esophagus instead of the trachea.

What caused Mr. Daye to die after being removed from life support was that he was electively removed from life support. That's no great mystery.

Face it, the trauma surgeons did an excellent job taking care of the stab wound. Another problem everyone wants to gloss over is the fact that Daye was having serious alcohol withdrawal symptoms just prior to his intubation. Mangum is definitely not responsible for Daye's intoxicated state.

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
Yes - And I'm sure you'd prefer to go to a "physician" who has no medical education instead of a real medically-trained doctor.

But this ridiculous argument aside, why don't you take a few moments to look at (and respond to) a number of posts here that are either responses to your blog entry or the latest in the ongoing "Crystal files 3 motions" saga...Do you plan to post those new motions? If so, when?


Lance,
Since they are a matter of public record, I might post them one of these days. There really wasn't much information in them.

Anonymous said...

Interesting. The ridiculous letter from Jones merits a blog, but Mangum's motions do not.

Anonymous said...

You obviously are not proud of the motion you filed in your appeal of the dismissal of your lawsuit against Duke. You filed it on April 10, but have failed to mention it except in short responses to other comments.

I suspect you made no worthwhile legal arguments once again.

dhall said...

From someone SO involved in Crystal's case, you must be aware of her court appearance scheduled on July 2.

Anonymous said...

No the reason why i did not make a long critique of your long response was this: your writing reveals a very disturbed individual, with early dementia and clear signs of paaranoia. If i were your family member, I would be doing my best to get you some help. Thats why i said it was both embarrassing and sad.

Anonymous said...

It speaks volumes that mangum and harr , once again, acted without counsel's involvement and, again, to her detriment. I would hope that Vann withdraws and that there an injunction obtained to bar Harr from contact with Mangum. As lousy a person i think Mangum is, she is entitled to effective counsel and Harr is behaving in a reprehensible manner. Shame on him.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"To me it is more important that an expert have integrity than experience or credentials. What good is a report from an expert if it is filled with lies and misleading statements and conclusions?"

This assumes facts nt in evidence.

First you are not a man of integrity since you do not know the meaning of the word.

Second, who you believe credible. It is the court, not you, who rules on credibility.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nccourts.org/County/Durham/
Documents/dccms_070212.pdf

7/2 12:15pm

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"What caused the problems with Mr. Daye's intubation is that the tube was placed in the esophagus instead of the trachea."

What did not cause problems was that Reginald Daye's intubation. The tube, according to the documents illegally posted by SIDNEY HARR, was properly placed.

Anonymous said...

No white man would ever want to have sex with Crystal Mangum and I don't know why any black man would either.Poor Mr.Daye.I feel very sorry for him and the people who cared about him even though the person who writes this crap does not.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"What caused Mr. Daye to die after being removed from life support was that he was electively removed from life support. That's no great mystery."

It is no great mystery that Reginald Daye was placed on life support because of complications resulting from the stab wound inflicted on him by Crystal Mangum.

That is, no great mystery except to SIDNEY HARR, which says very little about SIDNEY's judgment as a retired physician.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Your proclivity to dictate to the court what the court should decided shows, again, you believe you are above the law, that you have no respect for the law.

kenhyderal said...

How to respect North Carolina's justice system when innocent people can be incarcerated for months on end, without the right to a speedy trial. It's a system where prosecutorial abuse allows for extreme over-charging. In hopes that it will end their interminable inprisonment, desperate defendents, reluctantly, agree to plead guilty, even if they are innocent, to reduced charges. This seems to happen to minorities more often then not.

Nifong Supporter said...


dhall said...
From someone SO involved in Crystal's case, you must be aware of her court appearance scheduled on July 2.


As a matter of fact, yesterday, Saturday, June 30th, I did hear late in the day that there was a court appearance scheduled for Monday, July 2nd. I believe that it will cover a bail reduction and release of the mysterious SBI forensic experiment that took over a year to complete.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
You obviously are not proud of the motion you filed in your appeal of the dismissal of your lawsuit against Duke. You filed it on April 10, but have failed to mention it except in short responses to other comments.

I suspect you made no worthwhile legal arguments once again.


Au contraire, Mon ami. I am quite proud of my motion on appeal, however, I've been concentrating on issues surrounding Ms. Mangum.

Harr Supporter said...

Ken, you are absolutely correct. The NC justice system's flaws have been exposed for all to see. Minorities are the most frequent vicims of that flawed system.

The NC justice system does not assure a speedy trial despite the constitutional right for one. The case management system allows prosecutors to delay and pick the judge. Defendants indicted before an arrest are not entitled to a probable cause hearing. No record is kept of grand jury proceedings, permitting witnesses to lie at will. There is no obligation to present exculpatory evidence. The "open discovery" law has no teeth. Prosecutors can delay providing discovery until shortly before trial. The prosector's ability to delay puts pressure on defendants to agree to pleas, particularly defendants unable to make bail.

The Duke frame offered a real opportunity to work for reform. Affluent and middle class Americans saw for the first time the unfairness of the system. Few prosecutors have attracted as much attention as Nifong even as they attempt a deliberate frame.

Those who claim to seek justice for the victims of an unfair system squandered that opportunity. They apparently thought it more important that affluent defendants should suffer all of the injustices of the system than they enlist new allies for reform. They complain that the defendants spent no time in jail. They propose preposterous theories and insist that something could have happened.

They only seek justice some of the time.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
http://www.nccourts.org/County/Durham/
Documents/dccms_070212.pdf


Thank you for the info, which is the site for the court schedule. I'll try to provide a link below.
Durham Court Schedule

Anonymous said...

One question, harr......why dont you stay out of mangum's case and leave it to her lawyer? Seems to me if you really gave a damn, you would mind your own business and let the attorney handle her case. Your interference is asinine and causing her trouble. Its obviously not about mangum.....otherwise you would respect the law and the legal process and stay out of the way. I cannot see ONE good that has come to mamgum from your mucking in her affairs. And dont say you are only doing what she asks........we all know better. Mangum needs a lawyer, not a buffoon.

Anonymous said...

Seems to me the public response to Mangum's situation, her current one, is basically "bleeech"....as in, when it is time for her day in court, let it be a fair trial, with competent counsel, and let the jury determine her fate, based on the evidence". I sure as hell have not heard any "public" outcry of angst about mistreatment of this lady. In fact, what I have heard is just the opposite.....she gets more breaks than a hip hop dancer. I would not count one convicted felon, drug seller, robber and overall scummy man, as the "PUBLIC". The outcry for justice for Mangum that harr whines about is himself, peterson the homophobic racist, and preacher kenny. that's about it.....oh, I forgot....one or two other folks who don't fork over bail money either.
so, lets just remind harr that he cannot get away with false statements about the PUBLIC response to Mangum as he describes it. He is a liar when he makes these kinds of statements.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it peculiar that Harr conveniently forgets that the prime offenders for overcharging and keeping people in jail, awaiting trial, appear to be Cline and her best pal, Nifong.....
Wonder why harr doesn't admit to his hypocrisy....????

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
One question, harr......why dont you stay out of mangum's case and leave it to her lawyer? Seems to me if you really gave a damn, you would mind your own business and let the attorney handle her case. Your interference is asinine and causing her trouble. Its obviously not about mangum.....otherwise you would respect the law and the legal process and stay out of the way. I cannot see ONE good that has come to mamgum from your mucking in her affairs. And dont say you are only doing what she asks........we all know better. Mangum needs a lawyer, not a buffoon.


I am staying out of Mangum's case, and allowing her attorney to conduct it as he sees fit. If Mangum wants to file a motion with the court, I am not interfering with her lawyer's representation of the case by filing her motion on her behalf. I believe that a lot of good has come from my support of Ms. Mangum's case, and from the support she receives from other member of the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong.

Specifically, one good thing that has come from my involvement is that she is now represented by an attorney who has at least contacted a forensic pathologist to review the Autopsy Examination Report of April 14, 2011. Do we agree on that?

Anonymous said...

Mangum did NOT want Vann a year ago. She got Shella, who she said she wanted. You interferred and Shella withdrew. Now she has Vann again. No way that mess can be construed as helpful to Mangum.
Shella was conducting his preparations for Mangum's defense without involving you...which was completely appropriate. You interferred, for your own publicity reasons, and caused a fine attorney to leave the case....which he absolutely should have done.
Because Vann has called in a hired gun, who is not board certified and who has laughable experience, compared to Nichols and the team of trauma physicians at Duke.....I would not consider this move by Vann to be particularly useful or helpful to Mangum. You complain constantly about people being bought up by the non-existent conspiracy. How long will it be before you start whining about Vann's incompetence for bringing in a marginal lightweight who is clearly in the business of being a professional witness?????

Anonymous said...

People awaiting trial do not typically file their own motions in court......they go to their attorney and ask them to file, IF their counsel thinks it is appropriate. To file motions, after you were already warned about your behavior by the NC Bar, is just, well, stupid. If you think the practice committee is going to buy your explanation that all you did was carry papers, you are mistaken. Your hands are all over this, Harr. Don't make it even more obvious by trying to distort the truth.
Vann is Mangum's attorney....at least today.....and you should stay out of it. Period. If Mangum asked you to file a motion, the appropriate response would be, "No,you discuss this with your attorney and let HIM handle it!!! Idiotic to behave otherwise.

Lance the Intern said...

I can tell if Sid wrote the new Mangum motions (as, I'm sure, most of you can).

This would explain his reluctance to post them here.

Anonymous said...

Crystal's hearing was supposed to be at 12:30 this afternoon...That's 2 hours ago by my clock.

Anyone have an update?

Lance the Intern said...

Nice going Sid. Woody Vann basically stood up in court and said "I haven't had an opportunity to review these motions"

You just need to stop. Honestly. You are NOT helping Crystal Mangum. Let her attorney do his job. If she asks you to submit another motion, tell her to give it to her lawyer.

Were it my courtroom, I'd make you pay for everyone's wasted time.