Tuesday, June 23, 2015

A prosecution case built on lies

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Anonymous said...

Given that her conclusion was that The stabbing led to Daye's death, so the only way for Crystal to escape liability was self-defense - her saying anything to the ADAs would have been unethical and would have closet her her career. Remember - she said the autopsy was sloppy, but she agreed with the conclusion.

This is why we call you an idiot because you don't listen and make idiotic statements. We call you an idiot because you are one.

Anonymous said...

The point is she should have had the medical examiner investigated for the obvious discrepancies right away (vs. never). She didn't say the stab wound caused the death, it was complications or a series of events. Those complications by malpractice should have been investigated long ago as well (vs. never).

Anonymous said...

Just because no one has told Sid about it doesn't mean these issues were looked into. You don't think Dr. Roberts explained to the attorneys what her findings were? You don't think they didn't ask her how she'd explain it?

See, you just assume that no one did their jobs because that's what the abuser Sid wants you to believe. But, remember, Sid can't even understand how an apartment can be side-by-side after explanation because it didn't fit the worldview he was trying to make it fit into.

You are relying on Sid (who is admittedly dishonest) for your assertion that none of this happened, and that no one asked Dr. Roberts anything, and that every attorney was a traitor and a turncoat (despite the fact that they focused heavily on the 1 thing that could have kept Crystal from being a convicted felon). If they were the traitors, they would have put Dr. Roberts on the stand and gotten her 1st Degree Murder, which is what the abuser wants anyway.

Just because no one will tell Sid anything doesn't mean work wasn't done.

And, remember - when Sid contacted IDS, they explained how he was wrong in his assumptions about the payments. When he looked at the apartment, it showed he was wrong in his assumptions. When he kept bringing up felony murder, and prior abuse, and the prior record - he was shown to be wrong in his assumptions.

The reason Kenny and Sid (the abusers) don't contact Meier is because if he ever would talk to them (and who knows - they will say no, so they don't try), he'd likely prove them wrong again.

They don't care about helping Crystal, they care about making Crystal think they are helping, when in reality they are isolating her and emotionally abusing her.

The fact you still believe them, and can't comprehend basic things, is why we call you an idiot, because you frequently prove you are.

Anonymous said...

July 24, 2015 at 8:07 AM

Don't call me an idiot anymore just because you do not agree with what is said on this blog. It only serves to make you seem more and more idiotic every time you do it. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

" Anonymous Anonymous said...

The point is she should have had the medical examiner investigated for the obvious discrepancies right away (vs. never). She didn't say the stab wound caused the death, it was complications or a series of events. Those complications by malpractice should have been investigated long ago as well (vs. never)."

Except malpractice ever hapened.

Anonymous said...

July 24, 2015 at 9:17 AM

I am not assuming anything unlike the jury was made to do. I am saying that these issues need to be presented and tried in a court for Ms. Mangum and the public to receive fair and equal protection and representation. Duke can and does kill many more people than Ms. Mangum will ever be accused of doing. The 'broken' medical examiner's system in NC can ruin the lives and trials of many, and again does not the provide the public fair or equal protection and services.

Anonymous said...

Except malpractice ever hapened.

July 24, 2015 at 9:25 AM

How do you explain the intubation malpractice documented in Duke's medical records? ???

Anonymous said...

You are still an idiot - and the defense doesn't put things into evidence just because the "public" might want to know it - they try to help their client.

A lot of stuff gets kept out (the child abuse convictions, the burning of the clothes, etc.), was that wrong for the attorney to try and keep that out?

The Great Kilgo said...

TinFoil,
I have some very important information. Please get in touch with me.

Anonymous said...

July 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM

The defense, Ms. Mangum, wanted the issues investigated, and the DA had an obligation to the safety and welfare of the public AND the integrity of the charges and conviction to do so. THAT is the point.

Anonymous said...

July 24, 2015 at 10:37 AM

get real

blah

The Great Kilgo said...

That is precisely why you should call me.

Anonymous said...

July 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM

What the frack are YOU talking about?

I've ALWAYS ignored your posts, you have never spoken to me on this blog, and now you want me to call you? ???

Are you insane?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Is there any way you can actually answer questions more frequently? It is very frustrating to have you make a few posts, ask questions about those posts, and then have to wait until you answer a few more questions - ESPECIALLY since your blog is over run with trolls. Does the trolling amuse you too? I mean seriously, are you going to assist Ms. Mangum in writing a MAR or appeal brief for herself - or not?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Did you write a letter to the new DA? Has he gotten back to you yet?

The Great Kilgo said...

Tinfoil,
It is extremely important that you call me, if you want to see Crystal out before 2026.

Anonymous said...

" Anonymous Anonymous said...

Except malpractice never hapened.

July 24, 2015 at 9:25 AM

How do you explain the intubation malpractice documented in Duke's medical records? ???

July 24, 2015 at 9:29 AM"

Whether ignorat people like you like it or not, an esophageal intubation under the circumstances described for Mr. Daye, he had stopped breathing and vomitus had blocked the view of the airway, does no necessarily rise to the level of negligence, which is necessary for there to be malpractice. Ask an expert in medico legal matters. Neither kenny nor mr. harr is an expert.

guiowen said...

"Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Is there any way you can actually answer questions more frequently?"

Because of all the hateful comments that you and your ilk constantly post here, this has been categorized as a "hate site". This means Sidney cannot use the computer at his residence. He must go to the library to answer your questions, sand can only do so at irregular intervals.
This is known as "unintended consequences".

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 9:06, please read read State v. Faust, 258 N.C. 453, 459. (1963) before you post again. You look foolish enough as it is.

Hope this provides elucidation,
Any lawyer

Anonymous said...

July 24, 2015 at 12:27 PM

If that case covers malpractice in any way then it is NOT like this case that COVERED-UP the malpractice - blatantly - illigally - repeatedly (even by the Appeal defense attorney and the Appeal judges who apparently didn't take time to look at the evidence) and is typical of what the Duke / Durham / NC injustice system is all about.

Anonymous said...

g... I can assure you that you as the evil duke troll it g... hatemonger blogmonger and the evil duke troll gang you cyberbully with on this blog are the reason this site is termed a hate-crime site (if it is). You are despicable.

guiowen said...

But Tinfoil,
I'm only trying to help you!

Anonymous said...

no one needs your cyberbullying advice g... on this blog

DO NOT post about me or to me again ... EVER

YOU HAVE NOT STOPPED TROLLING AND CYBERBULLYING ME SINCE DAY ONE AND THAT HAS BEEN YEARS NOW

YOU ARE A HATECRIME CYBERBULLY WHO IS BEING TOLD TO STOP BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT

THIS INCLUDES YOUR ANNONYMOUS CYBERBULLYING AND TROLLING

Anonymous said...

You are incredibly and viviously stupid.

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil is getting upset ... Someone needs to change his diaper!

Anonymous said...

You are incredibly and viviously stupid.

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
You don't know how much you hurt me by rejecting my friendship!

Anonymous said...

g ... i've already told you to stop copy and pasting posts that aren't even yours and then sitting there and trolling what you just posted.

seriously

get over yourself

troll doesn't even describe what you do any more g ... since you are seriously evil

DO NOT TROLL ME IN ANY WAY AT ALL AGAIN

thanks

blah blah blah

Anonymous said...

You are incredibly and viviously stupid.

guiowen said...

Tin
foil,
El que lo dice lo es.

Anonymous said...

It is telling that Duke wants to coverup the malpractice in this case to such a large extent that they employ the evil duke troll gang to cyberbully this blog in such an extreme crazy-making and consistent manner, AND expect for all the professionals in the justice system and NC medical examiner system to lie and distort the truth outright for them. So how much are they paying you g..., or are you so brainwashed by them that you just continue on for free? How much do you think they paid Dr. Nichols to lie for them?

Anonymous said...

Maybe duke didn't intubate Mr. Daye into brain death like Dr. Nichols documented, and it is duke that is lying about what they did. Maybe they gave him a lethal dose of meds that caused him to stop breathing, but then they realized they needed time for the meds to get out of the system in case a blood test was taken by the medical examiner to determine which meds were in his system when he died, so they put him on life support equipment to give them 'time'. Who knows? Who's to say except the duke med. people, and they obviously aren't talking.

Then, according to Dr. Nichols, Duke reopened old knife wounds on Mr. Daye's arm, punctured and infected Mr. Daye's lungs, and performed various other internal organ damage, including removing Mr. Dayes spleen and then putting it back (maybe they were giving an intern the chance to 'practice' organ removal and replacement on Mr. Daye) ... again ... who knows?

Without 'expert' testimony and cross-examination in a court of law (that isn't the duke / durham / NC injustice system), all these details are fair game for personal interpretation due to the level of discrepancy between the state's autopsy report and duke's medical records.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe duke punctured the lung with the intubation tube and then didn't treat the infection that developed from that since he was already doomed. Then they were like, what the heck, let's just take it so many steps further and proceeded to reopen the old knife wounds on Mr. Daye's arm, let their interns play around with his internal organs AND remove and replace the spleen. Again, who knows?

Anonymous said...

I think it's time to recognize Sid is an abuser of women and a Duke plant. All of his efforts to help Crystal are so absurd - and so harmful - it has to be intentional. He is her worst enemy.

Anonymous said...

You are incredibly and viviously stupid.

Anonymous said...

what the frack g ...

what is your problem?

The Great Kilgo said...

TinFoil,
You have not answered my post, or otherwise tried to get in touch with me.
I can only conclude that you are not a true friend of Crystal.
Shame on you!

kenhyderal supporter said...

Dr. Harr,

My close fried kenhyderal has gone missing and I'm worried about him. Can you help me find him?

Anonymous said...

You are incredibly and viviously stupid.

Anonymous said...

Kenny is at band camp this week. I will let him know that his friends were asking about him.

Bless you for being such a good friend.

Kenny's Mom

guiowen said...

So, Tinfoil,
Have you found a lawyer for Crystal's appeal yet? Remember she's counting on you!

Anonymous said...

evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:

I have no intention of finding a lawyer for this case since I personally think Ms. Mangum with Dr. Harr's assistance can write her own MAR or appeal brief after all the discussion about the case on this blog if she and Dr. Harr are so inclined as she could do no worse by now than when she did have conflicted lawyers assisting, as Dr. Harr has repeatedly pointed out, so no need to ask again in your obsessive hatemongering blogmongering cyberbullying ways. You can stop intentionally annoying everyone on this blog - we've all got that you are an insane cyberbully by now. Thanks.

guiowen said...

But TinFoil,
I'm only trying to help you!

Fake guiowen said...

Don't worry, TinFoil,
I have it from a reliable source that Crystal will be out in five weeks!

Anonymous said...

evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:

NO ONE needs your brand of 'help' and you are despicable for repeating your self serving joke of a whiny reply over and over again as it is quite obvious that all you are is an annoying cyberbully who makes drinking bets about no one taking this blog seriously if you degrade yourself consistently in order to try to turn it into your own personal self-serving joke.


guiowen said...

TinFoil,
El que lo dice lo es.

guiowen said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...

evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:

I have no intention of finding a lawyer for this case since I personally think Ms. Mangum with Dr. Harr's assistance can write her own MAR or appeal brief after all the discussion about the case on this blog if she and Dr. Harr are so inclined as she could do no worse by now than when she did have conflicted lawyers assisting, as Dr. Harr has repeatedly pointed out, so no need to ask again in your obsessive hatemongering blogmongering cyberbullying ways. You can stop intentionally annoying everyone on this blog - we've all got that you are an insane cyberbully by now. Thanks.

July 27, 2015 at 1:39 PM"

Boy are you deluded.

Anonymous said...

There is no appeal brief left to write - the fact you seem to think there is, despite everything actual lawyers has explained just shows how deluded you are.

As to Dr. Harr's help - he's been wrong so many times on this blog, why do you think he could help?

He's an abuser, you are still an idiot.

Anonymous said...

Sid,

How did your writ to the Supreme Court in your case against Duke turn out?

guiowen said...

So, Tinfoil,
How's that MAR progressing? Please keep us informed.

Anonymous said...

evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:

WHAT about don't troll, cyberbully, or post to me or about me EVER again DON'T you understand?

guiowen said...

But Tinfoil,
I'm only trying to help you!
Don't you understand how you wound me, when you refuse my advice?

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

I have not been busy on the comment side recently as I just returned from a high school class reunion on the west coast. A lot of fun.

However, I have a lot on my plate that I have to get done... including my lawsuit against Duke University... a filing with the U.S. Supreme Court, and I need to give some non-lawyerly conversation to Crystal... in addition to another unrelated (art) project. As soon as these duties are behind me, I will jump back into commentary and begin work on my next sharlog.

I will peruse the comments when I drop by the library to access the internet, however. However, time-wise, I just am not able to engage as much as I would like. kenhyderal, however, does an excellent job in representing my position.

As you were.

Anonymous said...

mr. harr:

"I need to give some non-lawyerly conversation to Crystal"

Nothing you have said to crystal has been even remotely lawyerly.

guiowen said...

So, Kenhyderal,
Any progress with Crystal's MAR? Inquiring minds want to know!

By the way, I'll be happy to give you my advice.

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

So, in other words, you aren't going to do a damn thing for Mangum except troll this website, post ridiculous comments and then act outraged when you are called out?

Nice. Mangum is lucky to have supporters like you.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Sid's got nothing. He's just gonna lie to Mangum and keep giving her false hope so he can see her cry.

You are an abusive ass. And of course you let the other abuser speak for you, Kenny.

Anonymous said...

What do you think that anyone from this blog could do for Ms.Mangum Abe? Got any brilliant ideas?

Anonymous said...

You have an entire 1 percenter university - namely duke - that thinks they are going to be 'saved from themselves' by anyone on this blog? That is funny.

guiowen said...

So, Tinfoil,
How's that MAR progressing? Please keep us informed.

Anonymous said...

g... ask your good friend Dr. Harr - he is the one with access to Ms. Mangum.

guiowen said...

Sidney has difficulty posting, thanks to those commenters who had this site labelled a "hate site". I figure Tin Foil, who loves Crystal so much, must know something.

Anonymous said...

g... i don't even know Ms. Mangum - you are nothing but an evil instigator - so duke like in your ways. I will repeat to you - YOU are the reason this site might be labeled an hate site - if it is.

blah

guiowen said...

My, TinFoil,
You are having a bad day today, aren't you?
Sorry if I hurt your delicate feelings.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
mr. harr:

"I need to give some non-lawyerly conversation to Crystal"

Nothing you have said to crystal has been even remotely lawyerly.


Tell that to the NC State Bar.

I will visit Crystal tomorrow, and continue to encourage her as the truth will set her free. The problem is that those in position of power and authority, along with the mainstream media, are trying their utmost to keep the truth from the people. Only the visitors to this blog site are enlightened about the Crystal Mangum case.

Still am extremely busy, but hope to get pressing projects completed (regarding my case with Duke and others) so I can resume working on sharlogs to enlighten.

guiowen said...

So, Tinfoil,
Do you plan to do anything? Are you actually trying to get useful information? Or are you just happy repeating the same stupid questions and the same insults over and over again?

Anonymous said...

mr. harr

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
mr. harr:

"I need to give some non-lawyerly conversation to Crystal"

Nothing you have said to crystal has been even remotely lawyerly.


Tell that to the NC State Bar."

Why don't you try telling the state bar how lawyerly you have been. That is, if you enjoy having people laught in your face at your incredible stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Blogger guiowen said...

So, Tinfoil,
Do you plan to do anything? Are you actually trying to get useful information? Or are you just happy repeating the same stupid questions and the same insults over and over again?

July 29, 2015 at 3:01 PM

No evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger, but obviously You are.

blah

Anonymous said...

Guiowen asks: Or are you just happy repeating... the same insults over and over again?

Tinfoil answers: No evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger...

QED.

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guiowen said...

Tin Foil,
I used to think that, though misguided, you were at least acting in good faith. You've made it quite clear that this is not the case.

Anonymous said...

i have never thought you were acting in good faith g..., and you are certainly misguided in your continuous cyberbullying and trolling - but - hey - that's you

blah

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

IF a MAR is worked out on this blog with your assistance for Ms. Mangum, (and of course persistent ignoring of the outrageous trolls on this blog), do you think the state bar would object?

Would you be willing to make that one of your many projects?

Is Ms. Mangum in need of that type assistance?

Does she have access to a current legal library at the jail?

Have you gotten hold of a copy of the other MAR yet? Are you going to post it to this blog anytime soon?

WHAT are the nine appeal items you spoke of and said you were going to share soon, but have yet to do so?

Anonymous said...

You've asked the same questions repeatedly - and Sid hasn't responded - because he's not interested in help, he's interested in abuse.

Plus, he's made it clear he has no knowledge of legal procedure, and he has yet to do anything to remotely help Crystal - everything he does is to hurt her.

You need to be asking the abuser to just leave Crystal alone.

Anonymous said...

July 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM

You are correct that Dr. Harr has not answered these questions yet.

I will agree that he is harming her if he is leading her on to think that what he is doing on this blog is going to get her released from jail, as obviously that is Not the case. She is the one who needs to be filing a MAR and/or other complaints. No one else can do it for her unless she retains a lawyer to assist her. If he has let her know that and is assisting her in writing these items and understanding the procedures for doing so, than perhaps he is helping her. Only Dr. Harr can let us know that however. Perhaps he will soon.

guiowen said...

So, TinFoil the Cyberbully,
How are you enjoying yourself today?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

"Examples of what constitutes cyberbullying include communications that seek to intimidate, control, manipulate, put down, falsely discredit, or humiliate the recipient. The actions are deliberate, repeated, and hostile....."

Anonymous -- a simple look at your own posts reveal you (more so than any other poster) are responsible for the cyberbullying going on at this site with your repeated name calling of others who disagree with you.

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
Have I hurt your feelings, you little delicate flower?

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

This blog would be a much nicer and friendlier place without you. If you are offended by what is said on this blog, your remedy is to stop coming on-not to try to shut up the people you disagree with.

Anonymous said...

watch your hatecrime annoying obnoxious egotistical racist obssessive compulsive evil duke trolling g...

you're not exactly one to be demanding manners on this blog

what's up with that anyway?

are you insane or just a jerk?

Anonymous said...

yeah everyone ... let's all watch the evil duke troll it g... be annoying ms. manners for the millionth time cuz that's all its got in its mockery to be a dukie with manners - projecting how everyone should watch their hypocritical manners which for some reason it things makes them a 'better' dukie and an excellent evil duke troll it

Anonymous said...

I actually read something about that evil duke troll it g... and annoying ms. manners. Something like dukies could be as evil, criminal, mean, deadly, and generally harmful as the want ... as long as they have manners.

you are just an example in troll form

Anonymous said...

All your questions have been answered by Dr. Harr before. He seems very busy on other more important things right now, so truly, why do you keep trolling him over and over and over again except to annoy him and everyone else (except your fellow evil duke troll gang who cheers your harrassment on perhaps).

Dr. Harr, if I may give you just a bit of advice which I'm sure you already know, ignore the troll. The troll(s) do not deserve your time while you have more important things to think about.

Anyway, the trolls are as annoying as the gov. pushing the 10 billion dollar coal ash cleanup on consumers, (wonder why they didn't store the ash the right way to begin with ya know and WHY does it cost 10 Billion), while its revealed that duke energy will be one of the main consumers of natural gas, and a new pipeline and immediate drilling on state owned lands is on the push table. Ya know, that's so fracked up, makes a person want to knock on the door at the gov. mansion and ask the man why, ya know, why are ya'll so greedy and why are so many public school teachers resigning, and do you give a damn about anything but duke, but, hey, he might not like that one would assume.

anyway ... that was just in the news ...

so ... yeah the troll(s) are as annoying as that on purpose, and they think it's a.o.k. to do what they do cuz it's duke just like the gov.

Duke wants people to be naive about them obviously as shown by the coverup in this case. It is disturbing to watch them in action that is a fact that unfortunately more and more will finally realize, hopefully before it is too late. One can only hope, but mother nature is always so much more powerful and unpredictable, ya just never know what might happen. Course then duke will charge the consumers 20 billion to clean up their destruction, probably ...

How to stop them is the 64 billion dollar question.

You have important work to do with what your doing on these current cases.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

guiowen said...

Heavens, TinFoil, you sound worried.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

guiowen said...

So, TinFoil,
Any luck finding a lawyer?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

Anonymous said...

" Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

July 31, 2015 at 2:28 AM"

Boy are you stressed over your incredible stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post and the anonymous poster who persistently calls everyone incredibly stupid and similar is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

Anonymous said...

Stop being such a whiny little baby Tinfoil - if you can't handle people who actually call you out on your bullshit, lies, and idiocy, then go cry somewhere else. Your whining is really pathetic, and just makes us feel sad and sorry for you - but encourages people to keep poking at you.

I really do hope you understand this entire blog is a joke, and just a way for Sid and Kenny to further their abuse of Crystal, and not an actual effort to help her. If not, get help. Seriously, get help.

Anonymous said...

Duke Energy ≠ Duke University.

With that said, all you need to know about Duke Energy you can learn by watching the 1976 documentary Harlan County, USA .

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post and the anonymous poster who persistently calls everyone incredibly stupid and similar, as well as any posts similar to the one posted on July 31, 2015 at 6:10 AM is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen and any others thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

guiowen said...

So, Tinfoil,
Any hope we can get you to stop whining and insulting people?

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil:

I am not Sid's biggest fan, but he is not responsible for comments made by other people.

Second, comments on this blog - no matter how crude, offensive or sophomoric they may be - are not cyberbullying. Cyberbullying refers to communications sent to someone. Comments on this blog are not being sent to you; rather, you have to come here and seek them out.

If you feel bullied, threatened or frightened by things people are saying on this website, you should stop coming here. If you don't like the way people react to your inane and ridiculous comments, stop making inane and ridiculous comments.

In reality, you feel neither bullied or threatened by anything anyone says here. Otherwise, you wouldn't keep coming back. Rather, you would prefer to stifle any thoughts and ideas you disagree with and do away with criticism of your comments. That is lazy and dishonest and it's not how the world works.

You need to stop whining, pull your thong out of your butt, put on your big boy pants and act like an adult. Or else you can just go away. Either way is fine by us.

Now straighten up and fly right.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post and the anonymous poster who persistently calls everyone incredibly stupid and similar, as well as any posts similar to the one posted on July 31, 2015 at 6:10 AM, and especially comments such as the one posted July 31, 2015 at 6:46 AM is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen and any others thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

I am requesting that you take responsibility of the trolling and cyberbullying that guiowen perpetuates against everyone on this blog. If deleting guiowen's post and the anonymous poster who persistently calls everyone incredibly stupid and similar, as well as any posts similar to the one posted on July 31, 2015 at 6:10 AM, and especially comments such as the one posted July 31, 2015 at 6:46 AM is how you choose to take responsibility for the cyberbullying on this blog, then please do so during each of your brief moments you choose to monitor your blog.

Your reply to this request at your next encounter with your blog is asked to insure that you are aware that cyberbullying on your blog IS your responsibility.

It is unfortunate that guiowen and any others thinks that cyberbullying on your blog in the self-described drinking bet to attempt for no one to take your blog seriously is the way to proceed, but that is the case.

Please take responsibility for hosting a cyberbullying free blog ASAP.


Thanks for presenting your concerns about cyberbullying. Unfortunately, I don't have internet at home and go to the library to get on line... usually once a day for approximately half an hour up to an hour. That doesn't give me much time to police the site as I would like... and with current pressing issues, my time online is much less. I will take measures to enforce the kenhyderal doctrine when given notice, but otherwise, I am afraid that I simply lack the time to really address any cyberbullying. Keep in mind that cyberbullying is a reflection on the debased individual commenting and not the object of his/her rant.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
July 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM

You are correct that Dr. Harr has not answered these questions yet.

I will agree that he is harming her if he is leading her on to think that what he is doing on this blog is going to get her released from jail, as obviously that is Not the case. She is the one who needs to be filing a MAR and/or other complaints. No one else can do it for her unless she retains a lawyer to assist her. If he has let her know that and is assisting her in writing these items and understanding the procedures for doing so, than perhaps he is helping her. Only Dr. Harr can let us know that however. Perhaps he will soon.


I will let you know as soon as possible.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

IF a MAR is worked out on this blog with your assistance for Ms. Mangum, (and of course persistent ignoring of the outrageous trolls on this blog), do you think the state bar would object?

Would you be willing to make that one of your many projects?

Is Ms. Mangum in need of that type assistance?

Does she have access to a current legal library at the jail?

Have you gotten hold of a copy of the other MAR yet? Are you going to post it to this blog anytime soon?

WHAT are the nine appeal items you spoke of and said you were going to share soon, but have yet to do so?


First, there is no law library at the NC Correctional Institution for Women.

The MAR that Judge Hudson recently denied was submitted more than a year before he denied it. Don't plan on posting it.

The nine points for appeal I believe have been published somewhere in this blog site. I will try to publish them again in an upcoming sharlog.

I am sure the State Bar would object to any help I provide for Mangum... legal or non-legal.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr,

Why do you have to publish the nine items for appeal in a sharlog? Why don't you just list them in a post which would be much easier for you and those whom are interested?

Why won't you post the MAR and Judge Hudson's reply?

Does Ms. Mangum require the services of a lawyer to further assist her if she has no access to a legal library and you are not helping her?

guiowen said...

Anonymous said,

"Does Ms. Mangum require the services of a lawyer to further assist her if she has no access to a legal library and you are not helping her?"

July 31, 2015 at 8:31 AM

That's why you should locate a lawyer for her.

Anonymous said...

why don't you g...?

I will not be locating a lawyer for her. Don't ask me again. I will not be assisting in a MAR or anything else - I am not a lawyer. I do not need your help or advice - quit offering it in your annoying cyberbullying insincere ways. I will no longer be posting to this blog as this is Dr. Harr's show - and I have watched and been subjected to enough of the abuse to know that is all it is - so don't post to me or about me again. You will have to cyberbully and troll Dr. Harr himself from now on since there will be no one else left for you to victimize and annoy. Dr. Harr might eventually do something about it then - who knows.

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
I'm only trying to help you!
Happy to see you go! I just hope you stay away.

Anonymous said...

that's ok g... Dr. Harr and you and your wife can celebrate with that dinner and drink ya'll have planned.

guiowen said...

Heavens, Tinfoil,
It's just 26 minutes since you said you wouldn't be posting again. What a disappointment!

Anonymous said...

glad to be of 'help' g... you and your wife must be awfully proud of yourselves now

guiowen said...

Tinfoil,
Is there any way we can get you to stop posting? You promised!

Anonymous said...

guiowen:

26 minutes probably seems like an eternity when you spend it hitting the F5 key as fast as you can.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Fake Kenhyderal said...

What option does Crystal Mangum actually have at this point? She doesn't get an automatic review by the N.C. Supreme Court since the appeals court's opinion was unanimous.....

Anonymous said...

Her only option is a MAR, and she has to show a lot more than has been shown here - none of Sid's theories would work (especially since so many have been shown to be wrong). She should have listened to her lawyers from the beginning, and not Sid - worst case she'd be out by now with a plea.

Anonymous said...

evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:

NO ONE needs your brand of 'help' and you are despicable for repeating your self serving joke of a whiny reply over and over again as it is quite obvious that all you are is an annoying cyberbully who makes drinking bets about no one taking this blog seriously if you degrade yourself consistently in order to try to turn it into your own personal self-serving joke.

Anonymous said...

get real

blah

guiowen said...

I really am disappointed. I thought TinFoil had promised to leave!

TinFoil,
Don't go away mad. Just go away!

Anonymous said...

no one needs your cyberbullying advice g... on this blog

DO NOT post about me or to me again ... EVER

YOU HAVE NOT STOPPED TROLLING AND CYBERBULLYING ME SINCE DAY ONE AND THAT HAS BEEN YEARS NOW

YOU ARE A HATECRIME CYBERBULLY WHO IS BEING TOLD TO STOP BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT

THIS INCLUDES YOUR ANNONYMOUS CYBERBULLYING AND TROLLING

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil must love Carly Simon - he's so vain - he thinks every post is about him ...

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

no one needs your cyberbullying advice g... on this blog

DO NOT post about me or to me again ... EVER

YOU HAVE NOT STOPPED TROLLING AND CYBERBULLYING ME SINCE DAY ONE AND THAT HAS BEEN YEARS NOW

YOU ARE A HATECRIME CYBERBULLY WHO IS BEING TOLD TO STOP BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT

THIS INCLUDES YOUR ANNONYMOUS CYBERBULLYING AND TROLLING

August 1, 2015 at 5:01 AM"

Boy are you stressed over your incredible stupidity.

Anonymous said...

You are incredibly and viviously stupid.

guiowen said...

But TinFoil, you promised
" I will no longer be posting to this blog "

Won't you keep your promise? If we all tell you how much we love you, will you keep your promise?

Anonymous said...

evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:

WHAT about don't troll, cyberbully, or post to me or about me EVER again DON'T you understand?

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
What I don't understand is why you're still posting, after you promised otherwise. Can't you keep a promise?

Walt said...

Anonymous at 3:06 PM wrote: "Her only option is a MAR, and she has to show a lot more than has been shown here - none of Sid's theories would work (especially since so many have been shown to be wrong). She should have listened to her lawyers from the beginning, and not Sid - worst case she'd be out by now with a plea."

Ding-Ding-Ding, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

and your a bs evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger who harrassess, trolls, slanders, commits hate crimes, pretends to be a retired doc, duke dad, and various other characters at whim, including the tin hat and tinfoil hat for the purposes of trolling itself repeatedly with others' copied/pasted posts especially on the weekends to keep itself amused, treats people like slaves, and commits abusive crazy making tactics by baiting and then blaming the persons you troll for defending themselves or others from your constant duke centered bullying, trolling, and hate crime commissions directed at anyone who does not conform to your bs evil ways and beliefs

blah ...
blah ...
blah ...

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
If I tell you how much I love you, will you promise to keep your promise?

Anonymous said...

g ... i've already told you to stop copy and pasting posts that aren't even yours and then sitting there and trolling what you just posted.

seriously

get over yourself

troll doesn't even describe what you do any more g ... since you are seriously evil

DO NOT TROLL ME IN ANY WAY AT ALL AGAIN

thanks

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
If I tell you how much I love you, will you promise to keep your promise?

Anonymous said...

No, ya'lls hypocrisy in your national rants during the lacrosse case or support of it, compared to cheering on Duke killing a patient with malpractice and then covering up the fact with the explicit lies and assistance of the justice system ya'll denigrated so fiercely and publicly during the lacrosse case in order to further harm the victim in the lacrosse case again is beyond evil.

In addition, cyber-bullying and trolling and defaming the victim and those who are appalled by what they are seeing happening in these cases and do not support the corrupted system goes beyond acceptable to any.

The thing is, ya'll actually think you are in the right in supporting Duke and the justice system in harming others again, so then you attack the citizens of NC for the harm that you have done and supported Duke and the justice in doing when the corrupted Duke / Durham / NC injustice system does the same to you because you let them do it to others all along.

Do you understand? If you are going to support it, quit blaming others if you too get harmed by it. Do ya'll really think ya'll are so entitled that you can blame the citizens of NC for the problems that YOU caused and supported and contributed to by your support of the harm as long as it was only harming others?

kenhyderal said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
kenhyderal said...

Walt said: "She should have listened to her lawyers from the beginning, and not Sid - worst case she'd be out by now with a plea."...................The immoral and corrupt US Justice system does this with most cases. Innocent people especially poor ones are held for months without trial and with impossible bail amounts set. Their court appointed Attorneys cant be bothered to mount a vigorous defence and would really like to get defending these indigents out of their hair as quickly as possible. Visiting them in gaol is one big nuisance. Prosecutors seek to clear the roster rather then pursuing justice. Plea deals are less work for both sides. If the accused wont, on principle, plead guilty because they are in fact innocent, the prosecutors hold a major advantage because they have had all evidence available to them and for much longer then an ill prepared defence counsel and, as well, are able to set the timeline. When Crystal finally made bail that leverage was gone. Walt, you are condoning a unjust system where innocent people are coerced into pleading guilty. And if they wont the State holds the distinct advantage of getting a bogus conviction from a Jury who does not hear a strong defence by an improperly prepared Defence Counsel

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

g ... i've already told you to stop copy and pasting posts that aren't even yours and then sitting there and trolling what you just posted.

seriously

get over yourself

troll doesn't even describe what you do any more g ... since you are seriously evil

DO NOT TROLL ME IN ANY WAY AT ALL AGAIN

thanks

August 1, 2015 at 2:53 PM"

Boy are yu stressed

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
Why don't you, then, find a good lawyer for Crystal? You've told us on a previous occasion, that you're in Kuwait because of "the almighty dollar." You must have a sizable amount of cash stashed away. Use it! Go to Durham! Try to make other people understand the situation; if you do a good job people (who hate to see an injustice done) will help you. But don't just sit on your rear end in air conditioned comfort, wailing ab out the evils of this world.
Do something!

guiowen said...

TinFoil,
Much as I enjoy this little game (which I've no doubt you relish) I really think you and I are just wasting too much time. I will therefore do as you say and stop sending you my love notes.

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

Your master debating will not help Crystal.

Anonymous said...

Kenny, you are an abuser of women and an idiot. You should stop posting here.

We all know what you are. You are pathetic, and it's sad how you feel you can be so public with your abuse.

Walt said...

Kenhyderal wrote: ".The immoral and corrupt US Justice system does this with most cases."

You are being ridiculous.

"Innocent people especially poor ones are held for months without trial and with impossible bail amounts set."

Except Crystal was not innocent. The only question was of what she was guilty.

"Their court appointed Attorneys cant be bothered to mount a vigorous defence and would really like to get defending these indigents out of their hair as quickly as possible."

Your ignorance is showing. Most indigent defense in the U.S. is handled by Public Defender Agencies. In the case of the NC system, the public defenders get the same pay and benefits as prosecutors. With the major benefit that the head of the agency does not have to run for election every four years.

"Prosecutors seek to clear the roster rather then pursuing justice."

We definitely saw that happen with Mike Nifong.

"Plea deals are less work for both sides. If the accused wont, on principle, plead guilty because they are in fact innocent, the prosecutors hold a major advantage because they have had all evidence available to them and for much longer then an ill prepared defence counsel and, as well, are able to set the timeline."

Sometimes, though not always. Again, we saw Nifong abuse his position to hide evidence from the defense.

"When Crystal finally made bail that leverage was gone. Walt, you are condoning a unjust system where innocent people are coerced into pleading guilty."

Of course not, but Crystal wasn't innocent.

"And if they wont the State holds the distinct advantage of getting a bogus conviction from a Jury who does not hear a strong defence by an improperly prepared Defence Counsel."

That was not the case for Crystal. In fact, she had a very well prepared defense counsel. The problem was the client wouldn't listen to him.

Walt-in-Durham

kenhyderal supporter said...

Welcome back kenhyderal.

Anonymous said...

But try to understand
Try to understand
Try try try to understand
Ken's a magic man.

Anonymous said...

I do like how Tinfoil pretends to be anti-Duke and pro-Sid and Crystal - but the reality is clearly the opposite. His constant whining and imploring of Sid to spend what little time he has on the computer reviewing comments and removing those that allegedly hurt Tinfoil's feelings show that Tinfoil doesn't want Sid to actually do anything on the case or anything else, but patrol comments.

Well played Tinfoil ... you are the Duke plant you always whine about ... doing all you can to distract Sid.

Anonymous said...

HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Four weeks till Crystal gets out of jail! How may crying towels do you think I should put together?

Anonymous said...

Post 1 Defense (SHORT WARNING, defense, and explanation to ALL): NOTE 1: This post may be copied over and over by the trolls who make a game of copying and pasting plagiarized posts on this blog so they can troll and cyberbully this blog repeatedly at the expense of others - namely guiowen alias the evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger and its evil gang of evil duke trolls ... and the like. g... is on a roll as usual ... but its not me ... its it. This is done as a tool for further defense, warning, and explanation FOR HISTORY, as needed as will be as long as the game continues ... blah~

My last post was made on (see my copied/pasted post below of July 31, 2015 at 10:24 AM:

NOTE 2: With the exception of this one made in defense of the relentless cyberbullying perpetuated by guiowen and gang, posted 8/3/15 am. This will forever be your answer g... ... get over it~

Anonymous said...

glad to be of 'help' g... you and your wife must be awfully proud of yourselves now

July 31, 2015 at 10:24 AM

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Have been tending to important and pressing matters, related to Crystal's case and my lawsuit against Duke University. Consequently, I've been unable to give much time to this blog site and commenters. By the end of the week, I should be free to spend more time on the site and even begin work on my next sharlog.

I remain confident that Mangum's release is imminent... it's just that achieving it has been a difficult and lonely war.

As you were.

Anonymous said...

Sid:

Is there a basis for your belief that Mangum's release is imminent? If so, what is it? And what do you mean by imminent?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

guiowen said...

Abe,
I also would like to know what basis there is for Sid's belief.

As to "imminent": early in July, he stated that he could probably get her out by the end of the month, and definitely by the end of August. Whether he still believes this is of course another question.

guiowen said...

Abe,
Sid said so, specifically, on July 9.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Sid on June 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM:

"I believe I am on the verge of a breakthrough, and am hoping that I can get Mangum freedom no later than the end of July. Once she is freed, I believe the murder conviction will be overturned in short order."

Walt said...

G and Abe, I too am curious about Sid's basis for his belief in Crystal's release.

As to his "pressing matters" in the Duke lawsuit, that's a fool's errand. However, I hope he files something. He and Duke deserve each other.

Walt

kenhyderal supporter said...

I have not doubt that kenhyderal is responsible for Dr. Harr's good news.

Anonymous said...

I have no doubt you are stressed out from being incredibly stupid.

Anonymous said...

And I have no doubt that 7:15 is stressed out from being unable to recognize sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

And I have no doubt that 6:07 is incredibly and viviously stupid.

Anonymous said...

Sid:

It is getting heated in here. When are you going to douse us with a new shlog?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Sid:

It is getting heated in here. When are you going to douse us with a new shlog?


Extremely important posting next Tuesday or Wednesday!!!

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Next Tuesday, August 11th, or possibly at the latest next Wednesday, August 12th, there will be an extremely timely and important posting on this blog site. (I am working on it now, and have been deeply involved with it for several days... that is why I have not had time to address comments on this site.)

Anonymous said...

What set of facts/issues is Sid going to misrepresent and lie about this time? His last 2 bombshells: The IDS experts and the Kia Haynes perjury both turned out to be completely wrong, and easily explainable, Sid just refused to listen.

Yet people still think that's not an issue on all of his other assumptions/evidence.

Sid is a loon looking to abuse Crystal and promote himself - his "issues" have easy explanations, but he refuses to listen, and keeps hurting Crystal.

Sad.

Anonymous said...

hey mr. harr. We've been stuck at 955 comments for a few days. All the comments you bave posted since comment 955 are the best comments you have ever posted.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT.

There will be an important posting... most likely on Tuesday, but no later than Wednesday. Have been spending all my time on it for the past week or so. Gotta get back to work on it if I'm going to have it completed and online by then.

As you were.

Anonymous said...

Aw, mr. harr, you spoiled your multi day streak of no incredibly stupid comments.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

I thought Sid was working on his Duke lawsuit?

Anonymous said...

Hey ... today or tomorrow we get to see the latest attempt by Sid to give Crystal false hope so he can emotionally abuse her some more!

How long will it take for this one to be proven false?

Anonymous said...

If his past history is any indication, the chance of Sid plopping a shlog on us today or tomorrow is virtually nil. By the same metric, it is nearly certain that the shlog Sid eventually plops flops.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
If his past history is any indication, the chance of Sid plopping a shlog on us today or tomorrow is virtually nil. By the same metric, it is nearly certain that the shlog Sid eventually plops flops.


Hah! Nice guess.

guiowen said...

Nifong Supporter said...

"Hah! Nice guess."

Does this mean your new shlog is ready? We're all eager to see it.

Nifong Supporter said...


HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

This morning, Tuesday, August 11th, Crystal filed a Petition for Discretionary Review with the North Carolina Supreme Court. She did this as a Pro Se petitioner. Because she is incarcerated, she could not physically go to the courthouse in downtown Raleigh and file it herself, so I did transport the documents for filing. Also, because she has no access to a laptop, word processor, or typewriter, I transcribed the document for her to keep her from having to produce a handwritten document.

Anyway, I will try to post a copy of the Petition tomorrow morning.

As you were.

Nifong Supporter said...


guiowen said...
Nifong Supporter said...

"Hah! Nice guess."

Does this mean your new shlog is ready? We're all eager to see it.


gui, mon ami, you're pretty sharp. No sense in trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

Actually, it will not be a sharlog in the true sense of the word with narration, etc. It will basically contain the petition and a few related and relevant exhibits.

Fake Kenhyderal said...

North Carolina Supreme Court's track record on Petitions for Discretionary Review for criminal cases? In overall percentage terms since 2008, roughly 94% were denied.

I'll be interested in seeing the petition, though -- We can take turns posting the sections authored by Sid.....

Anonymous said...

mr. harr, you promised us a momentus announcement.

We are still waiting.

Anonymous said...

Sidney stated: I transcribed the document for her to keep her from having to produce a handwritten document.

So she dictated the petition to you?

Anonymous said...

Sid,

I hope the petition isn't the same old slop you've been plopping for years.

kenhyderal supporter said...

Dr. Harr:

Did kenhyderal assist Crystal in preparing the Petition for Discretionary Review?

Walt said...

Anonymous at 5:10 PM wrote;"Sid,

I hope the petition isn't the same old slop you've been plopping for years."


Amen, brother, amen.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
mr. harr, you promised us a momentus announcement.

We are still waiting.



The announcement is about the Petition. It will be posted in a few hours. Almost completed.

A Lawyer said...

Anyone want to bet that the Petition raises issues which weren't raised before the Court of Appeals (and which therefore cannot be considered by the Supreme Court)?

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