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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1133 Newer› Newest»mr. harr,why should anyone consider a docwho never completed any residency training and was never certified by any specialty board as a medical expert.
What does it matter? What he said was backed up by the defense medical examiner based on Duke's medical records in relation to the state's autopsy reporting that the judicial system has attempted to keep from Ms. Mangum, the public, and a jury. The complications are what need to be on trial since they are what caused the death. If there was a murder - it was from the complications that caused the death, not the one self-defensive stab wound that was documented in the Duke medical records as mended and not a cause of death but resulted in a prognosis for full recovery. That IS what's important and why the defense autopsy report was with-held from the public, the jury, and the defendant.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"What does it matter? What he said was backed up by the defense medical examiner based on Duke's medical records in relation to the state's autopsy reporting that the judicial system has attempted to keep from Ms. Mangum, the public, and a jury."
If you are saying the defense's expert supported mr. harr's version of events, you are deluded. The defense expert agree with Dr. Nichols' report.
mr harr, i believe your are posting anonymously to convey the false impression that you have support.
Dont give us your delusions about integrity. You have no integrity.
It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob...
Dr. Harr,
Is it possible that you can do something about the evil duke troll's obsessive cyberbullying on this blog YET? Please reconsider adding the evil duke troll's comments in general to the rules you use to delete posts on this blog that are offensive, obsessive, and just plain wrong in a cyberbullying way - like the last three. Thank you.
Dr. Harr,
How long does it take the Supreme Court to make decisions?
Out of concern for all persons and for Ms. Mangum, can you please advise her to write her own pro-se letter to the current Durham DA including the defense autopsy report that highlights a few of the state's autopsy report's errors and discrepancies in comparison to Duke's medical reports. These issues need to be investigated NOW - not later for the safety of ALL and for Ms. Mangum. There is NO time to waste - none. Please reconsider your thoughts on that matter since it is Ms. Mangum who needs to write the letter acting Pro-Se. It has not been done by HER yet has it? Do you think that other people can actually wait and wait and wait to have these issues investigated for the well-being of ALL? Illnesses and accidents don't work that way - so why should the justice system, you, or Ms. Mangum. This is not about frustration, it is about the safety of ALL. You do understand right?
Dr. Harr,
Will you please post ALL the letters you have sent to the DA's to date. Also, will you please post what you communicated in writing to the AG about this case. Some people simply cannot keep waiting forever to have these issues investigated in a just and concerned way. At some point these people will be held accountable for the suffering they have caused, and if it continues, they will suffer themselves even more. It is like being transported into the dark ages watching this case unfold and remain unresolved in terms of Duke's malpractice, the medical examiner's discrepancies and inconsistencies, and you saying it will be finished soon over and over again and it never is. Illnesses don't work that way so why are you?
Anonymous 2:45,
Is there any way we can get you to stop whining?
Anonymous 3:17,
In fact illnesses do frequently work that way. Please do not annoy Sidney, who has enough to do without your complaints.
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Anonymous 3:39 PM:
Thank you for your insightful comment.
September 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM
You're welcome.
All five foot five, dark complexioned, dread-locked males in the area who might end up as a patient at Duke Hospital, (until the guy with that description who attacked a female Duke Hospital worker on Sunday at the hospital but has yet to be found), would probably appreciate if this case was investigated and Duke, the Medical Examiner's system, and the in-justice system were held accountable for this death and cover-up a long time ago. Probably ALL the Duke Hospital workers who were never notified of the attack would too. Re: WRAL news cast, articles, and comments about the incident.
Kenny and Sid's entire theory is based upon some vast conspiracy.
They want to say Dr. Roberts is a part of it - because she does acknowledge that DTs were considered, she also acknowledges the esophageal intubation, and the problems with the autopsy. What their problem is, they don't understand how she acknowledges all of that, and still says they are wrong - and agrees with the conclusion, because no one will share it with them, or talk to them (though, to be fair, Kenny never asks anyone - he hides behind his keyboard and hopes people are lurking and respond).
A trained medical professional, in the field of pathology, and who worked as a Medical Examiner, reviewed everything, noted everything they claim is an issue - and reached a conclusion that was harmful to Crystal - that's why she isn't exculpatory - and also why all these claims for an investigation, etc., are ludicrous. It was looked into. They just don't like the answer.
They are like the Republican Party on Benghazi and the rest - have an investigation, when it concludes what they don't like, don't accept it, call for another investigation, and another, and another. They don't believe they can be wrong so no point in trying to show them they are.
Plus, they have to keep the charade going to keep abusing Crystal, which is ultimately their main goal.
What Dr. Harr said was backed up by the defense medical examiner based on Duke's medical records in relation to the state's autopsy reporting that the judicial system has attempted to keep from Ms. Mangum, the public, and a jury. The complications are what need to be on trial since they are what caused the death per the medical examiner. If there was a murder - it was from the complications that caused the death, not the one self-defensive stab wound that was documented in the Duke medical records as mended and not a cause of death but resulted in a prognosis for full recovery. That IS what's important and why the defense autopsy report was with-held from the public, the jury, and the defendant.
Anonymous said: "Kenny and Sid's entire theory is based upon some vast conspiracy"....................................... I don't believe in vast conspiracy theories. What I charge Dr. Roberts with is, after pointing out the true cause of Daye's death, chose to concur with the erroneous conclusion of Dr. Nicholls. I speculate why she did so was a desire not to censure Duke for it's egregious medical malpractice and a reluctance to condemn her already beleaguered colleague Dr. Nicholls. After all the only casualty would be the marginalized Crystal Mangum who thanks to Rae Evans and the Duke Lacrosse Defence has had her reputation slanderously trashed. Because of these canards poor Crystal is totally unfairly but widely despised.
kenny:
In as much as everyone with any kind of legal or medical background who is familiar with this case concurs with the medical examiner's conclusion that Mangum's stab wound was the proximate cause of Mr. Daye's death and that Mangum is culpable for his murder, I think it is necessary for you to consider the possibility that Sid is wrong and everyone else is right.
Mangum's reputation was trashed because she chose to falsely accuse innocent young men of a heinous crime in an extremely high profile case. The falsity of her allegations has been established and is beyond dispute. Mangum has had ample opportunity to mitigate the damage she inflicted upon herself (as well as the men she falsely accused) by retracting her obviously false accusations. To this day, she has chosen not to do so. She has ruined her own reputation. It is absurd to claim that people wrongly accused of a crime who defend themselves are responsible for the reputation of their false accuser. No matter how hard or how often you masturdebate, no one is going to take such a claim (or anyone who makes it) seriously.
That is the corner you, Sid and Mangum have painted yourselves into. To this point your factual, medical and legal assertions and theories are so outrageously absurd, provably falacious and irresponsibly made that no one takes you seriously (just look at all the replies Sid gets to his letters).
Even if you somehow stumbled upon some evidence that legitimately supported Mangum's innocence, you would have a hard time getting anyone to even consider it because of your well-earned reputation as people who are dishonest, unreliable and sloppy with the facts and law.
Also, Mangum's previous and subsequent criminal history, as well as her background as a stripper and prostitute (or escort, if you prefer that term - they are synonymous) is not the stuff a sterling reputation is built of.
No sausage for you.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
The only tie to Crystal for Daye's death is that her self-defensive action sent alcoholic Daye to hospital. This in the eyes of any reasonable person including Judge Ridgeway should not be enough to invoke a Welch or Holsclaw precedent. Had the Jury heard the entire story about Daye's death, they would not have convicted Crystal. Thanks to her inadequate defence they did not. They never heard the words esophageal intubation, medical malpractice, delirium tremens, chronic alcoholism, etc. etc. The Duke Lacrosse Players, as a defence to the accusation, chose the defence tactic of destroying the credibility of their accuser; firstly to question the character of the accuser, a usual tactic even for the guilty. Then, after having the charges withdrawn they continued a relentless campaign to vilify Crystal, probably to bolster their ongoing greedy civil suits. Gullible people like you have bought the characterization of Crystal hook, line and sinker. Crystal is a completely honest person and no matter what the incentive will not acquiesce to what her abusers, still need to extract from her.
If a hospital, medical examiner system, and in-justice system dominated by the local university that runs the hospital like Duke does did what was done in this case in Chicago, Abe, you probably wouldn't be so quick and ready to discount the facts from the medical records and autopsy reports, and the obvious cover-up of the malpractice and actual sole cause deadly malpractice and autopsy report errors like you do in this case.
Kenny,
Your 10:18 AM reply to Abe confirms the truth of his original comment: "... Your well-earned reputation as people who are dishonest, unreliable and sloppy with the facts and law."
Thank you.
September 23, 2015 at 9:36 AM
From what I read about the lacrosse case, they were not prostitutes nor escorts that they hired, but those present at the party tried to pretend like they were.
Duke must have some serious problems detrimental to the safety of ALL if they want to keep blaming Ms. Mangum for their errors of judgement and shortcomings in professionalism and ability to deliver services that do no harm. They continue to abuse and exploit her to the detriment of ALL so their donors don't shut their wallets and bank accounts to them, for their own political agendas based on money and prestige, and so they can continue to win awards and accolades - again for the sake of money and prestige. That is all demonstrated very clearly in these cases. Even their own workers and students are beginning to realize they are not worth anything if they interfere with those top Duke priorities. The patients - they matter even less - and it is better if they are sick and stay that way in order to contribute to their money and prestige agendas as well. That's Duke. Has it ever been any different?
Anonymous @ 11:45:
You're about as useful as a poopie-flavored lollipop.
kenhyderal said...
"I don't believe in vast conspiracy theories. What I charge Dr. Roberts with is, after pointing out the true cause of Daye's death, chose to concur with the erroneous conclusion of Dr. Nicholls"
Thus speaks no clinical training, no clinical experience kenny hissy fit.
kenhyderal said...
"The only tie to Crystal for Daye's death is that her self-defensive action sent alcoholic Daye to hospital."
Except there is no evidence Reginald Daye was an alcoholic, no evidence of self defensr.
"This in the eyes of any reasonable person"
Except kenny hissy fit does not fit the definition of "any reasonable person
"including Judge Ridgeway should not be enough to invoke a Welch or Holsclaw precedent."
Again, words of non wisdom from no clinical training, no clinical experience, no no legal training, no legal experience kenny hissy fit.
"Had the Jury heard the entire story about Daye's death, they would not have convicted Crystal. Thanks to her inadequate defence they did not."
Yes they did.
"They never heard the words esophageal intubation"
Which never woud have happened had crystal not stabbed Reginald Daye.
"medical malpractice, delirium tremens, chronic alcoholism, etc. etc."
No credible evidence of any of this. There is only evidence of krnny hissy fit's incredible stupidity.
"The Duke Lacrosse Players, as a defence to the accusation, chose the defence tactic of destroying the credibility of their accuser; firstly to question the character of the accuser, a usual tactic even for the guilty. Then, after having the charges withdrawn they continued a relentless campaign to vilify Crystal, probably to bolster their ongoing greedy civil suits. Gullible people like you have bought the characterization of Crystal hook, line and sinker. "
No they didn't. crystal discredited herself by falsely accusing innocent men of raping her. That has been shown beyond any reasonable doubt. kenny hissy fit has shownhe does not fit the description of a reasonable person.
"Crystal is a completely honest person and no matter what the incentive will not acquiesce to what her abusers, still need to extract from her."
Another iteration of kenny hissy fit trying to get his faviorite murderess/fals accuser a pass for her crimes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
September 23, 2015 at 9:36 AM
"From what I read about the lacrosse case, they were not prostitutes nor escorts that they hired, but those present at the party tried to pretend like they were."
Read Until Proven Innocent. That did not hsppen.
You are incredibly and viciously stupid.
I does seem mr. harr and kenny hissy fit are posting anonymously trying to create the illusion that they have support for their views.
In my opinion only cowards post anonymously.
Opinions are like farts....Just because you have one doesn't mean you have to let it out.
Sidney states: Medical records in prosecution discovery document without question that the initial intubation was esophageal and led to Daye's brain death... his elective removal from life support, and subsequent death.
I agree.
However, those facts alone--including medical malpractice--do not cut off Mangum's legal liability. Sidney refuses to consider legal issues.
Medical malpractice is not necessarily an intervening cause. Nichols testified that Daye died from complications from the stab wound. Although his work was sloppy, his conclusion was not refuted. Although she did not testify, Roberts agreed with this conclusion. Thus, two medical experts concluded that medical malpractice was not an intervening cause. No expert dissented.
Posters overstate the importance of Sidney's medical background. I don't trust him for other reasons. He has destroyed his credibility with misstatements of fact, misleading statements, straw man arguments, transparent double standards, flawed legal analysis, preposterous opinions, ludicrous predictions and ridiculous conspiracy theories. As a result, his conclusion that the intubation was an intervening cause is not reliable.
If he wants to accomplish anything, I have a simple recommendation: hire an attorney who understands the law as it exists--not how Sidney wants it to be--and hire medical experts who conclude that the intubation was an intervening cause.
Sidney's opinions will not set Mangum free.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
kenhyderal said...
"In my opinion only cowards post anonymously."
You post viciously and stupidly.
Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..
Ken,
Are you now ready to share with us your secret plan for winning Crystal a new trial?
Crystal was a drunk prostitute who lied about being raped in a bathroom that was too small because she didn't want to be arrested again.She had just served three years probation for car theft.It should have been obvious from the beginning this was a hoax because no white man would ever want to have sex with her much less go to all the trouble of raping her.
Parachute Skiing is not for the faint of heart _ theCHIVE37.mp4
for all the non-anonymous non-cowardly posters to add to their must do bucket list!
John D. Smith said...
"Posters overstate the importance of Sidney's medical background."
Posters overstate mr. harr's medical background, period.
mr. harr graduated frm medical school in 1974. He completer an internship. He was never accepted into any residency. He was never certified by any medical specialty board. According to the Independent Weekly article(http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/is-sidney-harrs-crusade-for-crystal-mangum-backfiring/Content?oid=3700005), he spent much of his post medical school career filing and losing frivolous lawsuits.
That is not much of an important medical background.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
How long does it take the Supreme Court to make decisions?
Out of concern for all persons and for Ms. Mangum, can you please advise her to write her own pro-se letter to the current Durham DA including the defense autopsy report that highlights a few of the state's autopsy report's errors and discrepancies in comparison to Duke's medical reports. These issues need to be investigated NOW - not later for the safety of ALL and for Ms. Mangum. There is NO time to waste - none. Please reconsider your thoughts on that matter since it is Ms. Mangum who needs to write the letter acting Pro-Se. It has not been done by HER yet has it? Do you think that other people can actually wait and wait and wait to have these issues investigated for the well-being of ALL? Illnesses and accidents don't work that way - so why should the justice system, you, or Ms. Mangum. This is not about frustration, it is about the safety of ALL. You do understand right?
From my understanding the decisions of the state Supreme Court are usually made in a relatively short time... as they review far fewer cases than the Court of Appeals. I don't believe they necessarily publish opinions on a set time table like the COA's first and third Tuesday. From visiting the web site, I believe the next time the Supreme Court will publish its opinions will be on Friday, September 25th... tomorrow.
I agree with you that the issues surrounding Daye should have been investigated long ago, and it seems to me that my (j4n) investigation is the only one that is going to be undertaken. DAs, the Attorney General's Office, SBI, judges, mainstream media have all refused to look into perjury allegations in Mangum's trial. I don't believe that a letter from Mangum herself would result in any action whatever. Mangum may write to the D.A. of Durham through the Defense Legal Services once the Supreme Court publishes its opinion... if unfavorable.
kenhyderal said...
The only tie to Crystal for Daye's death is that her self-defensive action sent alcoholic Daye to hospital. This in the eyes of any reasonable person including Judge Ridgeway should not be enough to invoke a Welch or Holsclaw precedent. Had the Jury heard the entire story about Daye's death, they would not have convicted Crystal. Thanks to her inadequate defence they did not. They never heard the words esophageal intubation, medical malpractice, delirium tremens, chronic alcoholism, etc. etc. The Duke Lacrosse Players, as a defence to the accusation, chose the defence tactic of destroying the credibility of their accuser; firstly to question the character of the accuser, a usual tactic even for the guilty. Then, after having the charges withdrawn they continued a relentless campaign to vilify Crystal, probably to bolster their ongoing greedy civil suits. Gullible people like you have bought the characterization of Crystal hook, line and sinker. Crystal is a completely honest person and no matter what the incentive will not acquiesce to what her abusers, still need to extract from her.
kenhyderal, you are absolutely correct. Had the jurors heard the truth, she would have never been convicted. I doubt that she would have been acquitted because Meier, Mangum's turncoat attorney, allowed three jurors to be seated who had close ties to Duke University and its hospital.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenny and Sid's entire theory is based upon some vast conspiracy.
They want to say Dr. Roberts is a part of it - because she does acknowledge that DTs were considered, she also acknowledges the esophageal intubation, and the problems with the autopsy. What their problem is, they don't understand how she acknowledges all of that, and still says they are wrong - and agrees with the conclusion, because no one will share it with them, or talk to them (though, to be fair, Kenny never asks anyone - he hides behind his keyboard and hopes people are lurking and respond).
A trained medical professional, in the field of pathology, and who worked as a Medical Examiner, reviewed everything, noted everything they claim is an issue - and reached a conclusion that was harmful to Crystal - that's why she isn't exculpatory - and also why all these claims for an investigation, etc., are ludicrous. It was looked into. They just don't like the answer.
They are like the Republican Party on Benghazi and the rest - have an investigation, when it concludes what they don't like, don't accept it, call for another investigation, and another, and another. They don't believe they can be wrong so no point in trying to show them they are.
Plus, they have to keep the charade going to keep abusing Crystal, which is ultimately their main goal.
What you failed to acknowledge is that neither Dr. Nichols nor Dr. Roberts provided a nexus between the stab wound inflicted by Ms. Mangum and Daye's brain death... the reason for his elective removal from life-support and resultant death. It is clear that the esophageal intubation was responsible for Daye's brain death, but there is no way that intubation (for whatever reason) was related to or necessitated by the stab wound to Daye's torso. Drs. Nichols and Roberts both have refused to expound on the real cause of Daye's death. Unfortunately for them, there is no way to get from the stab wound to Daye's brain death without mentioning the esophageal intubation, ergo, these two doctors prefer not to mention the proximate cause of death issues.
Hope that you have been enlightened on the matter.
Just to clarify - the Supreme Court is NOT reviewing the case, or issuing an Opinion. All they are doing is ruling on the Petition for Discretionary Review. IF they decide the review the case (the Court of Appeals Opinion), then there will be briefs, and it will go through the whole process.
They WILL NOT review the actual case unless they grant the PDR - that is the first step.
It just continues to be horribly abusive for Sid to lie to Crystal about legal process and procedure and give her false hope.
Nifong Supporter said...
"I agree with you that the issues surrounding Daye should have been investigated long ago, and it seems to me that my (j4n) investigation is the only one that is going to be undertaken."
Another manifestaion of mr. harr's megalomaniacal delusions.
With mr. harr's medical background, or lack thereof, it is obvious he is incapable of knowing what to look for when looking at a medico-legal situation.
Nifong Supporter said...
"kenhyderal, you are absolutely correct. Had the jurors heard the truth, she would have never been convicted."
Except the jurors did hear the truth and they have convicted her.
And neither mr. hrr nor kenny hissy fit are capable of detecting the truth.
Nifong Supporter said...
"What you failed to acknowledge is that neither Dr. Nichols nor Dr. Roberts provided a nexus between the stab wound inflicted by Ms. Mangum and Daye's brain death..."
Yes they did.
You are too incapable of understanding the medico-legal issues, as many posters have pointed out.
"NBC News apparently even has a policy in place to return, unopened, certified letters from me (identified by the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong logo and return address)."
Now -- that is funny!
Oh - and the most recognized abbreviation for the powers that be is TBTB.
If you're going to create you own (P-T-Bs? Power That Bes?) You should really identify the phrase somewhere in your document before you use the abbreviation for it.
Sid is still pathetically clinging to "Felony Murder." It's been conclusively shown that was never in play, and there was no jury instruction on it. Are you really this stupid, or you just don't care anymore?
Sid ... for tomorrow, you need to look in the petitions to see if the Supreme Court has ruled on the petition. They will not be issuing an opinion tomorrow (or ever if they don't grant the petition).
mr.harr, why is it irrelevant that you, after medical school, never was accepted into any residency and were never certified by any specialty board?
Sid:
Remember, you cannot look at the Opinions from the Supreme Court today - you need to look at the petitions. There will be no Opinion in this case unless they grant the PDR, then there will be a full round of briefing.
The Supreme Court did not make a decision on the PDR yet - the next release date is November 6.
Again, remember, IF they grant the PDR, then the appeal will go forward, and there will be a new round of briefs and the rest.
mr. harr, why, with your pretensions of being a medical expet, are the details of your background irrelevant, i.e. why you were never accepted into a residency, why you were never certified by any specialty board.
mr. harr
consider the people for whom you advocate.
A notorious false accuser, convicted murderess, who was a convicted criminal before she became known.
A convicted murderer who killed an innocent child while he was trying to gun down a rival drug dealer.
A district attorney who was proven to be one of the most corrupt DAs in US abd NC legal history.
And you think people believe you have integrity.
Sidney,
Great news!
The North Carolina Supreme Court did not deny Mangum's PDR yesterday. You can still hope!
And Kenny can continue to work on his secret plan for winning Crystal a new trial.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Supreme Court did not make a decision on the PDR yet - the next release date is November 6.
Again, remember, IF they grant the PDR, then the appeal will go forward, and there will be a new round of briefs and the rest.
Thanks for the information about the date of the next release.
Also, when I use the terminology regarding an opinion on the PDR, what I refer to specifically is their determination as to whether or not the appeal will be reviewed. Not being an attorney or formally legally trained, there may be minor missteps in wording which should not result in too much confusion. But if confusion persists, don't hesitate to bring it to my attention and further elucidation will be provided.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
mr. harr
consider the people for whom you advocate.
A notorious false accuser, convicted murderess, who was a convicted criminal before she became known.
A convicted murderer who killed an innocent child while he was trying to gun down a rival drug dealer.
A district attorney who was proven to be one of the most corrupt DAs in US abd NC legal history.
And you think people believe you have integrity.
As you probably are aware, I disagree wholeheartedly with your characterizations of some of the individuals for whom I advocate (Crystal Mangum, Shan Carter, and Mike Nifong). However, even if your interpretations were accurate, they all still deserve to receive justice... something of which they have all been sorely deprived. All individuals, including O. J. Simpson, deserve fair treatment by the courts... but I'm sure this is a point upon which we disagree, too.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
An update on the latest sharlog which will be titled "Obstruction of justice in the Crystal Mangum case." I am on the final process of committing images to soundtrack. Unless I am forced to break the sharlog into two parts due to file size, it should be completed and posted by Thursday, hopefully. Most assuredly it will be posted by next Saturday.
As you were.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Not being an attorney or formally legally trained, there may be minor missteps in wording which should not result in too much confusion."
The mis steps you have accomplished in your legal endaaors are much grosser than minor
Nifong Supporter said...
"As you probably are aware, I disagree wholeheartedly with your characterizations of some of the individuals for whom I advocate (Crystal Mangum, Shan Carter, and Mike Nifong)."
Which is an admissin of your lack of integrity.
"However, even if your interpretations were accurate, they all still deserve to receive justice... something of which they have all been sorely deprived."
Well, maybe they have not received justice. justice for nifong would have been a criminal conviction, a long prison sentence, and a stiff fine.
As Walt once said in your blog, Shan Carter will receive justice when his sentence is carried out.
crystal received justice when she was convicted of the murder of Reginald Daye. Justice in the milton Walker case would have been a felony conviction for arson and a prison term. Justice in the Duke Lacrosse case would have been a conviction for filing a false police report and jail time.
"All individuals, including O. J. Simpson, deserve fair treatment by the courts... but I'm sure this is a point upon which we disagree, too."
Yes they do, especially innocent individuals who have been falsely accused of perpetrating a crime which never happened. You do not seem to think that situation was any kind of 9njustie, probably because the falsely accused were caucasian and the false accuser, like you, is black.
I would prefer a sharlog entitled "Obstruction of Justice in the Duke Lacrosse Attempted Frame." It could focus primarily on the actions of Nifong, Gottlieb, Himan, Wilson, Meehan and others. It could also address whether any Durham politicians improperly influenced the DPD and whether DUPD reports were altered as has been alleged.
It could analyze the almost complete failure of Nifong and the DPD to conduct a credible investigation of the allegations.
Nifong Supporter said...
"An update on the latest sharlog which will be titled 'Obstruction of justice in the Crystal Mangum case.'"
Oh, it will be a work of fiction.
The only obstruction of justice in any legal situation affecting crystal was the attempt of corrupt da nifong to prosecute innocent men for a crime that did not happen, because he thought by pandering to black on white racism, he would win an election and enhance his retirement benefits.
In my last comment, I should have said, Oh it will be ANOTHER work of fiction
With regard to jusice for nifong, justice would have also included an 8 figure judgment against him for filing bogus charges against the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players.
And everyone knows why you filed suit against Duke. You deluded yourself that the Lacrosse Players shook down Duke for millions of dollars. You thought you could file a suit against Duke and shake them down for millions o dollars.
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Kenny, Kenny, oh Kenny Mack, when are you coming back?
I'm proud to call kenhyderal my friend.
Kenny,
How can you continue to support Sid when he shows what a total joke he is by clinging to felony murder and other things that have been conclusively debunked? (It wasn't even in the jury instructions.) he's clearly either delusional or a total joke. Why do you keep supporting him?
Kenny supports Sidney because they are both master debaters.
I'm proud to call kenhyderal supporter my friend.
Anonymous said...
With regard to jusice for nifong, justice would have also included an 8 figure judgment against him for filing bogus charges against the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players.
And everyone knows why you filed suit against Duke. You deluded yourself that the Lacrosse Players shook down Duke for millions of dollars. You thought you could file a suit against Duke and shake them down for millions o dollars.
You are not knowledgeable about the facts. I made every effort to amicably resolve the situation with Duke University seeking nothing more than public assurance that Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong supporters would not be subjected to harassment. Duke University only responded with one confrontational letter that was accusatory and full of contempt, as I had written it several times seeking reasonable response. I did not even ask for an apology. With the statute of limitations approaching, I was forced to engage in legal action.
Regarding the Duke University $20 million payout to each of the Duke Lacrosse defendants, do you know why the university settled out of court with them when even had they lost in civil court the compensation would never have approached $20 million?
Sid, the answer to your question is because the University wronged the Duke lacrosse defendants. Indeed, they harmed the entire lacrosse team, it's coach and the reputation of the University.
Unlike you, the lacrosse defendants were actually damaged and had viable claims against the University. You have no idea how much a jury would have awarded them, how expensive a trial would have been and what would have been revealed thru discovery and a trial that would have further damaged the reputation of Duke, its leadership and many of its professors, and further alienated its donors. All this caused people far more knowledgeable in such things than you are to arrive at a settlement figure. Moreover, you have no idea how much the Duke players received; you are just guessing when you claim $20,000,000 each. It was likely considerably less ($20,000,000 was probably the total settlement amount, but we can't even be sure about that).
On the other hand, Duke concluded that your case was meritless and worth nothing to resolve, would cost very little to dispose of and could not harm them in any way. It would seem they were right.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Nifong Supporter said...
"You are not knowledgeable about the facts."
Yes I am.
You tried to sue Duke without any causw of action because you thouyght you coul shake them down for millions of dollars.
Nifong Supporter said...
"I made every effort to amicably resolve the situation with Duke University seeking nothing more than public assurance that Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong supporters would not be subjected to harassment."
Which is irrelevant since you did not have a legitimate cause of action in the first place.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Regarding the Duke University $20 million payout to each of the Duke Lacrosse defendants, do you know why the university settled out of court with them when even had they lost in civil court the compensation would never have approached $20 million?"
Every sensible knowledgeable person knows that. It is obvious. Duke settled because they knew they would have lost and the monetary damages would have been more than what they paid.
You have no first hand knowledge upon which you base your claim that each of them received $20 million. You believed they did and so you sued Duke thinking you could intimidate Duke into paying off.
More evidence of your incredible, megalomaniacal, vicious stupidity.
Dr. Harr,
Can you give us an update on Crystal? Do her children visit her? If so, how is it going? If not, why not and what is being done about it? How is her relationship with the rest of her family and friends? Are they supportive of her and your efforts on her behalf? What are they doing to help secure her release?
I'm proud to call Kenhyderal supporter supporter my friend.
Until Sid stops clinging to legal theories that have been conclusively debunked, no one will take him seriously. If he can't even understand basic legal arguments and issues (like felony murder), why should anyone in a position of authority listen to him on anything? He's been wrong more than he's been right (felony murder, prior record, prior abuse, apartment layout, experts, and many, many others) - and yet he keeps going back to where he was wrong.
If your behavior wasn't so harmful to someone else, it would just be pathetic. As it is, it's just cruel - which is your goal - you have stepped into the role as Crystal's latest abuser, and you have Kenny enabling you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
Can you give us an update on Crystal? Do her children visit her? If so, how is it going? If not, why not and what is being done about it? How is her relationship with the rest of her family and friends? Are they supportive of her and your efforts on her behalf? What are they doing to help secure her release?
Crystal is doing remarkably well, considering what she's been through. Her faith has given her strength, I believe, and she is positive that she will be released shortly. Mangum's two oldest children are on the west coast with their father, and her youngest child lives in Raleigh... she does get to visit with her every now and then. Most of Crystal's friends live in Durham, and so do not make it to Raleigh to visit her. Mangum's family and friends are supportive of my efforts and those of the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong.
She's doing well considering she has a narcissistic, sadistic abuser who keeps lying to her and giving her false hope while isolating her from others who actually have been trying to help.
Everything Sid and Kenny are doing fit the textbook of abuse - isolate her, convince her they are the only ones really looking out for her, claim to know what is best for her.
Sid wrote: "...she is positive that she will be released shortly."
What Sid meant was she'll be released on June 15, 2027.
"... Mangum's two oldest children are on the west coast with their father,..."
Thankfully, someone is looking after them.
"...and her youngest child lives in Raleigh... she does get to visit with her every now and then."
Each week Sid visits with Crystal is one week her youngest cannot visit with her mother.
" Most of Crystal's friends live in Durham, and so do not make it to Raleigh to visit her."
Every week Sid sees her is one week her family can't.
Anon at 7:03 AM is onto something: "Everything Sid and Kenny are doing fit the textbook of abuse - isolate her, convince her they are the only ones really looking out for her, claim to know what is best for her." Sid has effectively isolated Crystal by taking up many of her very limited, weekly, visit slots. Fear not dear friends, Sid will get her out by June 2027 and hand out crying towels.
Walt-in-Durham
Sid -- Is this true? Do your visits to see Crystal Mangum take away the opportunity for one of her family members to see her?
If so, why aren't you using a family member to communicate with her for you, rather than taking this opportunity away?
From the NC Prison website:
What are the visitation times?
Visitation days and hours are established by each prison facil-
ity. Normally, inmates will be allowed no more than one visiting
session a week that does not last more than two hours. Generally,
no more than three approved visitors may visit during the visiting
session.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid -- Is this true? Do your visits to see Crystal Mangum take away the opportunity for one of her family members to see her?
If so, why aren't you using a family member to communicate with her for you, rather than taking this opportunity away?
My visits do not take away from visits from her daughter... the only family of hers in the area.
Sidney said
"Crystal's friends live in Durham, and so do not make it to Raleigh to visit her."
Actually, I imagine they're happy enough to let Sidney visit Crystal: this way they don't have to make the effort to visit her.
giuowen,
Haven't you learned by now that a sarcastic man is a wounded man?
They are such good friends if they can't drive all the way from Durham to Raleigh to visit her on the weekends. I mean, it's such an arduous journey.
If they were friends, they could make the same drive even once a month that tens of thousands of people make daily. But, Crystal has never had real friends (and Sid and Kenny certainly aren't friends) - she has people that use her for their own agenda, be it political, or abusive like Sid.
I do hope she is taking advantage of the help being offered her in prison.
Anonymous kenhyderal supporter said...
"giuowen,
Haven't you learned by now that a sarcastic man is a wounded man?"
What makes you think I'm being sarcastic? If I were one of Crystal's many "friends", I'd be more than happy to use Sidney's visits as a pretext not to go visit her.
"Sorry, Crystal, I'd really like to visit you, but I realize how important your visits with Dr. Harr are. I wouldn't want to intrude."
guiowen said...
"Sorry, Crystal, I'd really like to visit you, but I realize how important your visits with Dr. Harr are. I wouldn't want to intrude."
gui, mon ami,
I appreciate your desire to visit Crystal, and if you actually made the trip to Raleigh, I would definitely sacrifice my time to allow you to get to know her personally.
Like you said, my visits with her are important so that I can work with her in obtaining her freedom and exoneration. If Mangum's friends want to visit her I would, on occasion, be willing to step aside or share my visitation with them. (During a visitation session, more than one visitor on the approved list is permitted to visit.)
Can you really not recognize sarcasm Dr. Harr? You can't be as stupid and dense and delusional as you come across can you?
This is a quintessential example of projection. Dr. Harr is acutely aware that Guiowen's less then sincere posts are cruel and sadistic but he chooses to turn them back on him, hoping he will reflect on his less then honorable actions and turn to compassion rather then hate and contempt
Why, Kenny! Isn't this what you've been writing to Crystal?
Cruel? Sadistic? Hate? Contempt?
Aren't you being a bit hyperbolic?
Guiowen makes fun of you, Tin Foil and Sidney because the three of you act like complete morons. That's all.
A sarcastic man is a wounded man.
kenhyderal said...
"Dr. Harr is acutely aware".
Of nothng.
The question, Sidney, is how many of Crystal's friends have actually visited her.
Sid and Kenjy are pathetic abusers. Anyone who supports them is complicit in the abuse. How sad must their lives be that they need to keep attacking Crystal. Neither one wants to help as they reject the advice that could really help, especially poor pathetic Kenny who won't do anything but rant on a blog.
Anonymous said : "Aren't you being a bit hyperbolic? Guiowen makes fun of you, Tin Foil and Sidney because the three of you act like complete morons. That's all.".............................................What he is doing with his cruel sarcasm is hurting Crystal and her children; persons for whom Guiowen has zero compassion. He obviously hates Crystal, otherwise he would not engage in such sadistic behaviour towards her.
Kenhyderal wrote: "What he is doing with his cruel sarcasm is hurting Crystal and her children;..."
No, his sarcasm is directed at Sid, not Crystal or her children. The greater point is Sid is taking up very limited visitation times when Crystal could visit with her daughter. Apparently that is not a problem for you, or him. The hurt here is being done by Sid, not Gui.
Walt-in-Durham
The point is that Mr. Daye was killed by a medical test that had nothing to do with saving his life but instead ended it for no other reason than negligent and avoidable malpractice. If it was a murder, than it was Duke who was the criminal in their malicious negligent malpractice. How accidental can it be to give a patient a fluid dye medium that is sure to be thrown back up in a good majority of patients and then not be able to deal with the situation without killing the patient after purposely placing them in that dire condition for no other reason than to perform a non-life saving test in the first place? That was a lethal, purposeful choice that speaks volumes of negativity about Duke and their ethics and medical professionalism. Duke is at fault and is legally responsible for the unwarranted death of the patient - they know it, the in-justice system knows it, those whom are not blinded by hatred for Ms. Mangum or similar knows it, as does everyone on this blog whether they admit it or not due to their hatred.
My point, Kenny, is that Crystal's friends might have visited her. I can understand that it's somewhat of an effort to get to Raleigh from Durham, especially if you don't have a car, but lots of people commute this distance five days a week. Those that tried, however, discovered that Sidney was taking up those visitation rights. After a while, they decided it was just too complicated. So they don't even try any more.
guiowen said...
The question, Sidney, is how many of Crystal's friends have actually visited her.
Victoria Peterson and Jackie Wagstaff have visited her from Durham on several occasions.
Living within walking distance of the Women's correctional institution, it is much easier for me to visit... additionally I am retired.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The point is that Mr. Daye was killed by a medical test that had nothing to do with saving his life but instead ended it for no other reason than negligent and avoidable malpractice. If it was a murder, than it was Duke who was the criminal in their malicious negligent malpractice. How accidental can it be to give a patient a fluid dye medium that is sure to be thrown back up in a good majority of patients and then not be able to deal with the situation without killing the patient after purposely placing them in that dire condition for no other reason than to perform a non-life saving test in the first place? That was a lethal, purposeful choice that speaks volumes of negativity about Duke and their ethics and medical professionalism. Duke is at fault and is legally responsible for the unwarranted death of the patient - they know it, the in-justice system knows it, those whom are not blinded by hatred for Ms. Mangum or similar knows it, as does everyone on this blog whether they admit it or not due to their hatred.
You show much medical knowledge and understanding of the situation... I would guess that you were a physician or some sort of healthcare professional.
I agree that the decision to perform a scan using contrast was questionable especially in light of the fact that the overriding diagnosis was impending delirium tremens. It should have been recognized that contrast agent can be emetic... the emesis following its administration was definitely not surprising. If it was deemed necessary to give oral contrast for a necessary scan, then serious consideration should have been give to intubation beforehand to prevent any possible aspiration from vomiting following administration of the dye.
Without doubt, the necessity for the intubation was completely unrelated to Daye's stab wound, its surgery, or any treatment for the injury. More importantly, had the initial intubation been tracheal instead of esophageal, then Daye would have, more likely than not, not had a cardiac arrest or brain death. Failure to recognize the errant esophageal placement resulted in the morbidity Daye sustained which led to his elective removal from life-support.
Mangum had absolutely no liability in Daye's brain death or actual death.
And, as usual, it is always good to hear from an enlightened and intelligent commenter.
Walt said...
Kenhyderal wrote: "What he is doing with his cruel sarcasm is hurting Crystal and her children;..."
No, his sarcasm is directed at Sid, not Crystal or her children. The greater point is Sid is taking up very limited visitation times when Crystal could visit with her daughter. Apparently that is not a problem for you, or him. The hurt here is being done by Sid, not Gui.
Walt-in-Durham
Sorry, Walt, but you're wrong. True, I visit Mangum every week, with rare exceptions, but my visitation schedule does not interfere with her visiting with her daughter. If there was a conflict in place with my visits, I would certainly sacrifice my visiting to enable Mangum the opportunity to visit with her daughter. Fortunately, that is not the case.
Let me know if further elucidation is required.
From the U.S. Supreme Court's docket:
No. 15-173
Title:
Sidney B. Harr, Petitioner
v.
Richard H. Brodhead, et al.
Docketed: August 7, 2015
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit
Case Nos.: (14-1887)
Decision Date: December 22, 2014
Rehearing Denied: March 6, 2015
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jun 1 2015 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due September 8, 2015)
Jun 1 2015 Supplemental appendix of Sidney B. Harr filed.
Aug 20 2015 Waiver of right of respondents Richard H. Brodhead, et al. to respond filed.
Aug 24 2015 Waiver of right of respondents Federal Respondents to respond filed.
Aug 25 2015 Waiver of right of respondent North Carolina to respond filed.
Sep 16 2015 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of October 9, 2015.
Dr. Harr,
Where would you like your crying towel sent on October 10, when the Supreme Court unanimously decides that your ill-advised litigation against Duke is over?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"The point is that Mr. Daye was killed by a medical test that had nothing to do with saving his life but instead ended it for no other reason than negligent and avoidable malpractice."
No one has established that Medical Malpractice occurred. Certainly not never accepted into a residency, never board certified mr. harr.
fmr. harr, here is another chance to explain why you were never accepted into any residency and never achieved speciaty board certification. Since you try to pontificate as some kind of medical expert, those events, or non evente, certainly are relevant.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Victoria Peterson and Jackie Wagstaff have visited her from Durham on several occasions."
That is like being visited by two plague carriers.
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"And, as usual, it is always good to hear from an enlightened and intelligent commenter."
How would you know. You are not intelligent. You have never provided any enlightenment.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Let me know if further elucidation is required."
Again mr. harr presumes a fact not in evidence, that he provides elucidation.
I like that none of the folks in Sid's lawsuit against Duke are even wasting their time filing a response the Supreme Court. I wish we could see Sid's filings - I'm sure they are as eloquent and delusional as everything else he's filed, and full of mistakes and whining about law libraries. I wonder if he used Nifongian in there, or mentioned Crystal Mangum.
So, if I understand correctly, the only "friends" who visit Crystal are Wagstaff and Peterson? These people just tell her all about the state-wide conspiracy that Rae Evans is spearheading against her. Can't you get some of Crystal's real friends (co-workers, classmates, etc.) to visit her? Perhaps such people could help her to understand how she got herself into this situation.
What a mess!!
Sid wrote: "Sorry, Walt, but you're wrong. True, I visit Mangum every week, with rare exceptions, but my visitation schedule does not interfere with her visiting with her daughter."
Sid, your every week visits preclude her daughter from visiting every week. Thus, you are isolating Crystal. Worse, you are preventing her from exercising even the most brief and rudimentary of motherly actions. Speaking with her daughter.
Walt-in-Durham
Anonymous at 8:28 AM wrote: "The point is that Mr. Daye was killed by a medical test that had nothing to do with saving his life but instead ended it for no other reason than negligent and avoidable malpractice."
We all know that contributory negligence has no place in the criminal law and is not an intervening cause. St. v. Foust, 258 N.C. 453, 28 S.E.2d 889 (1963). You really need to learn to read the law before you make foolish pronouncements. All they do is demonstrate your ignorance. St. v. Foust has been cited here before. Your uninformed argument will not get Crystal's conviction reversed. It will not get her a new trial. It will not get her out of prison. Worse, your uninformed opinion only serves to cloud your understanding of the law and the facts of this case. With friends like you, and Sid, Crystal doesn't need any enemies.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt said to Sid:
"Your uninformed argument will not get Crystal's conviction reversed. It will not get her a new trial. It will not get her out of prison. Worse, your uninformed opinion only serves to cloud your understanding of the law and the facts of this case."
It makes Sid look like an ass is what it does.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Walt,
If that were the argument in this case so far, than the courts could decide on the meaning of law as the judge stated at the beginning of the trial. The courts could also argue about negligent malpractice, malicious negligent malpractice, or whatever. However, in this case, the entire issue is being purposely covered-up by the courts. The coverup is therefore the issue in this case so far. Nothing else.
After watching the innocence commission that went after Ms. Cline and Mr. Nifong in the news do its thang, and the lacrosse case - many of the issues that were used to attack Ms. Cline and Mr. Nifong are repeated in this case with the innocence commission simply watching on as it happens with purposeful and blatant agenda and action by the same Duke/Durham/NC in-justice system they just attacked for the same similar type issues. It's not like everyone isn't aware of what the Duke/Durham/NC court system is doing that is wrong and illegal in this case because of those highly publicized cases. Makes all those other cases look exactly like they were - Duke doing its vengeful malicious thang through the in-justice system and the media for their own malicious duke-centered agendas. From that - this case appears even more malicious and vengeful than it would if Duke, the state medical examiner's system, and the in-justice system had simply dealt with the malpractice in a professional and responsible manner to begin with instead of purposely participating in the malicious cover-up to support and enable even more vengeful malicious duke-centered agendas. This time it was the death of Mr. Daye at Duke's hands to frame Ms. Mangum for murder by deceiving and defrauding the public to further their malicious Duke-centered agendas. And you too appear to support them in that endeavor.
No need to blame Dr. Harr for pointing out the issues and misleading Ms. Mangum if he did and is. That does not solve the issue of what Duke, the medical examiner system, and the in-justice system has done and is doing in this case. Most are not affected by Dr. Harr's actions like they are by Duke, the medical examiners system, and the in-justice system. Your arguments on this blog are therefore meaningless.
Anonymous 1:42,
So, are all the media in NC complicit in Duke's crimes?
Anonymous said: "Walt said to Sid:
"Your uninformed argument will not get Crystal's conviction reversed. It will not get her a new trial. It will not get her out of prison. Worse, your uninformed opinion only serves to cloud your understanding of the law and the facts of this case."..........................................So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, they will still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital?? Although the facts were never presented to the Jury, that's not what I heard Ridgeway say and I'm sure no deliberating Jury would find such an instruction reasonable.
Guiowen said: " So, are all the media in NC complicit in Duke's crimes?".............................................................................. Not those who will print news without fear or favor. So far there appears to be none with the kind of courage. The People of North Carolina are not well served by the 4th Estate there.
Kenhyderal,
If everybody (except you, Sid and Tinfoil) says that you're wrong, does it occur to you that perhaps you are wrong?
Here's something else to think about: Crystal needs help. She has to be taught to take responsibility for her actions. The trouble is that you and your ilk are doing your best (actually, your worst) to keep her from learning that. She steals a car and nearly runs down a policeman? Oh, no, she was just doing a favor to the taxi driver, and it's not her fault the cop got in her way. She makes some false accusations of rape, to keep from being interned? Oh, no, there must have been some mystery rapists hiding in the bathroom. She burns her boyfriend's clothes, and slashes his tires? Oh, no, it must have been the police who did this, and in any case we can get Milton to take the blame for her. She kills poor Reginald? Oh, no, she was just defending herself, and if only Reggie hadn't died on us, we could have got him to take the blame.
Crystal needs to take control of herself, and you and your friends are not helping her in this. Stop telling her all about the great conspiracy that's targeting her "through no fault of her own". Help her instead to get ready for when she comes out of that correctional institution. She'll need to learn to do something worthwhile because at that age, the escort services won't be interested in her.
I don't hate Crystal. I don't love her, but it upsets me to see how people who claim to love her are actually sinking her. Sorry if I don't approve of what you do.
October 2, 2015 at 3:44 PM
Not if the 'everybody' you refer to is the evil duke troll gang on this blog that you belong to and cheer on, evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger. Most rational people in this state would be more concerned about Duke, the medical examiner system and the in-justice system taking responsibility for their actions.
Ms. Mangum needs help, but she won't get it in this state with a mental health system destroyed and controlled by duke and the like who's main objective is to support and benefit from the moneymongering establishment and their own research and prestige agendas that dominate the health services system in this state. If you read the local news, you would know that.
Anonymous 3:44,
So what do you propose to do? Keep on telling her all her problems are Rae Evans' fault? Or will you go tell her how the evil Duke troll gang is after her?
What do you propose to do, other than insult everybody who disagrees with you?
if you are insulted by your own comments g... - perhaps you are the one who needs to tell yourself that all your problems are not Ms. Mangum's fault?
Tinfoil,
I realize you won a lot of arguments back in high school by insulting the other students. You were no doubt the king of bullies. Now you're no longer in high school, and your bullying tactics don't work.
Go home, and cool off.
projecting still g..., eh. None of what you are saying makes sense unless you view what you are saying as a projection btw. If you don't like to be called evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger ... the answer is still the same as it was the last times we had this disscusion - don't evil duke troll on this blog anymore. blah
Go home and cool off. Don't try bullying me: it won't work.
It's been almost a decade since the Duke rape hoax.The falsely accused lacrosse players have gone on to lead productive lives.Nifong and Mangum wound up behind bars.Ha ha.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Walt,
If that were the argument in this case so far, than the courts could decide on the meaning of law as the judge stated at the beginning of the trial. The courts could also argue about negligent malpractice, malicious negligent malpractice, or whatever."
Irrelevant statement, as there was no malpractice.
kenhyderal said...
"Anonymous said: "Walt said to Sid:
Your uninformed argument will not get Crystal's conviction reversed. It will not get her a new trial. It will not get her out of prison. Worse, your uninformed opinion only serves to cloud your understanding of the law and the facts of this case."..........................................So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, they will still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital?"
Irrelevant statement, as the facts showed that Crystal killes Reginald Daye.
"Eat It"
How come you're always such a fussy young man
Don't want no Captain Crunch, don't want no Raisin Bran
Well, don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan
So eat it, just eat it
Don't want to argue, I don't want to debate
Don't want to hear about what kind of food you hate
You won't get no dessert 'till you clean off your plate
So eat it
Don't you tell me you're full
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Get yourself an egg and beat it
Have some more chicken, have some more pie
It doesn't matter if it's boiled or fried
Just eat it, eat it, just eat it, eat it
Just eat it, eat it, just eat it, eat it, ooh
Your table manners are some cryin' shame
You're playin' with your food, this ain't some kind of game
Now, if you starve to death, you'll just have yourself to blame
So eat it, just eat it
You better listen, better do what you're told
You haven't even touched your tuna casserole
You better chow down or it's gonna get cold
So eat it
I don't care if you're full
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Open up your mouth and feed it
Have some more yogurt, have some more spam
It doesn't matter if it's fresh or canned
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Don't you make me repeat it
Have a banana, have a whole bunch
It doesn't matter what you had for lunch
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
If it's gettin' cold, reheat it
Have a big dinner, have a light snack
If you don't like it, you can't send it back
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Get yourself an egg and beat it (oh lord)
Have some more chicken, have some more pie
It doesn't matter if it's boiled or fried
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Don't you make me repeat it (oh no)
Have a banana, have a whole bunch
It doesn't matter what you had for lunch
Just eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it
Anonymous said: "It's been almost a decade since the Duke rape hoax.The falsely accused lacrosse players have gone on to lead productive lives.Nifong and Mangum wound up behind bars.Ha ha'........................................"you've picked on the wrong families … and you will pay every day for the rest of your life."--Rae Evans.
So, Kenny,
Are you claiming that Nifong conducted himself appropriately?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
October 2, 2015 at 3:44 PM
Not if the 'everybody' you refer to is the evil duke troll gang on this blog that you belong to and cheer on, evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger. Most rational people in this state would be more concerned about Duke, the medical examiner system and the in-justice system taking responsibility for their actions.
Ms. Mangum needs help, but she won't get it in this state with a mental health system destroyed and controlled by duke and the like who's main objective is to support and benefit from the moneymongering establishment and their own research and prestige agendas that dominate the health services system in this state. If you read the local news, you would know that.
I would agree with most of what you said, however, after spending countless hours visiting with Crystal Mangum I can assure you that she is no more mentally ill than am I. In other words, she is a very sane and intelligent young lady. However, she has been abused by the system, and the media and state have gone out of its way to portray her has being mentally unstable to psychotic. The media portrays her as being mentally ill as a way of making her statements appear to be less credible.
Believe me... I know what I'm talking about.
Sidney claims of Mangum: I can assure you that she is no more mentally ill than am I.
I believe you.
...making her statements appear to be less credible.
Crystal has a tendency of making her statements appear to be less than credible when her statements are contradicted by physical and medical evidence and the testimony of other witnesses...
...making her statements appear to be less credible.
Crystal also has a tendency of making her statements appear to be less than credible when her statements are contradicted by other versions of her statements...
Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Sorry, Walt, but you're wrong. True, I visit Mangum every week, with rare exceptions, but my visitation schedule does not interfere with her visiting with her daughter."
Sid, your every week visits preclude her daughter from visiting every week. Thus, you are isolating Crystal. Worse, you are preventing her from exercising even the most brief and rudimentary of motherly actions. Speaking with her daughter.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt, I'm sorry but you're wrong. As a matter of fact, Crystal phoned me last night and I specifically asked about her visitation with her daughter. She told me that it was a separate program from the other visitation scheduling... a separate program that enables inmate mothers to spend time with their children.
Ergo, my visits with Mangum are not interfering with her visits with her daughter... unless, of course, you believe that Crystal lied to me about this point.
Anonymous A Lawyer said...
From the U.S. Supreme Court's docket:
No. 15-173
Title:
Sidney B. Harr, Petitioner
v.
Richard H. Brodhead, et al.
Docketed: August 7, 2015
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit
Case Nos.: (14-1887)
Decision Date: December 22, 2014
Rehearing Denied: March 6, 2015
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jun 1 2015 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due September 8, 2015)
Jun 1 2015 Supplemental appendix of Sidney B. Harr filed.
Aug 20 2015 Waiver of right of respondents Richard H. Brodhead, et al. to respond filed.
Aug 24 2015 Waiver of right of respondents Federal Respondents to respond filed.
Aug 25 2015 Waiver of right of respondent North Carolina to respond filed.
Sep 16 2015 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of October 9, 2015.
Dr. Harr,
Where would you like your crying towel sent on October 10, when the Supreme Court unanimously decides that your ill-advised litigation against Duke is over?
Hey, A Lawyer. Thanks for the update.
Dr. Harr,
There are many people who have mental illnesses who are very sane and intelligent.
I read on the news recently that Duke, actually it was the anesthesiologists department, was doing a study on antibiotics. They claimed that antibiotics can cause mental illness. Does that mean that everyone taking antibiotics who becomes mentally ill from it is therefore insane, unintelligent, unstable, and not credible? Of course not! How long have antibiotics been prescribed without mental illness listed as a side affect? Maybe Mr. Daye was agitated as a side effect of the antibiotics he was given during surgery ... so they killed him.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Believe me... I know what I'm talking about."
When it comes to matters medical, like mental illness, you have made it abundantly clear you do not.
Anonymous said...
...making her statements appear to be less credible.
Crystal also has a tendency of making her statements appear to be less than credible when her statements are contradicted by other versions of her statements...
October 3, 2015 at 11:30 AM
Crystal also tends to make her statements less than credible when she changes her version of events a half dozen times.
and there it is again
... evil duke troll it g... in pure g... form being evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger in pure g... form (again)
DO you EVER stop g...?
...
(just wondering)
...
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No, ya'lls hypocrisy in your national rants during the lacrosse case or support of it, compared to cheering on Duke killing a patient with malpractice and then covering up the fact with the explicit lies and assistance of the justice system ya'll denigrated so fiercely and publicly during the lacrosse case in order to further harm the victim in the lacrosse case again is beyond evil.
In addition, cyber-bullying and trolling and defaming the victim and those who are appalled by what they are seeing happening in these cases and do not support the corrupted system goes beyond acceptable to any.
The thing is, ya'll actually think you are in the right in supporting Duke and the justice system in harming others again, so then you attack the citizens of NC for the harm that you have done and supported Duke and the justice in doing when the corrupted Duke / Durham / NC injustice system does the same to you because you let them do it to others all along.
Do you understand? If you are going to support it, quit blaming others if you too get harmed by it. Do ya'll really think ya'll are so entitled that you can blame the citizens of NC for the problems that YOU caused and supported and contributed to by your support of the harm as long as it was only harming others?
evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger:
WHAT about don't troll, cyberbully, or post to me or about me EVER again DON'T you understand?
haters from KC's blog group: aka: the evil duke troll gang
prime example of the hate currently showing their prowness at the games as we speak
well since you are ALSO the alias tinfoil hat hatemonger evil duke troll it g..., and you have also mused before how you thought you were others which was really weird but ok, you are STILL trolling yourself in essense, so ... like has been said in essense before:
we get it evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hate monger ... you are a crazy making, anti-anythingNotDuke, Ms. Mangum, Dr. Harr, Mr. Nifong and anyone who supports them in any way hating, hate-crime committing ... troll (to be nice)
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TinFoil,
Go home and take your medicines.
well since you are ALSO the alias tinfoil hat hatemonger evil duke troll it g..., and you have also mused before how you thought you were others which was really weird but ok, you are STILL trolling yourself in essense, so ... like has been said in essense before:
we get it evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hate monger ... you are a crazy making, anti-anythingNotDuke, Ms. Mangum, Dr. Harr, Mr. Nifong and anyone who supports them in any way hating, hate-crime committing ... troll (to be nice)
blah
TinFoil,
You really need your medicines.
well since you are ALSO the alias tinfoil hat hatemonger evil duke troll it g..., and you have also mused before how you thought you were others which was really weird but ok, you are STILL trolling yourself in essense, so ... like has been said in essense before:
we get it evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hate monger ... you are a crazy making, anti-anythingNotDuke, Ms. Mangum, Dr. Harr, Mr. Nifong and anyone who supports them in any way hating, hate-crime committing ... troll (to be nice)
blah
Sid, Kenny, and Tinfoil are pathetic, delusional abusers. We should all just ignore them.
Who is Tinfoil abusing other than himself?
October 4, 2015 at 2:59 PM
Why are you on this blog?
Dr. Harr,
Things noticed: The Duke/Durham courthouse floods (a brand new court house mind you) on the day that the Iranian Taxi driver is due his next court appearance - so court is cancelled. Did he get a hearing yet to reduce the outrageous 1/2 million dollar bond so he can at least get out of jail and be with his wife and four kids?
Duke goes to great lengths to protect their Duke image once again, (they do that obviously as is seen in this current Duke/Mangum case)? One has to wonder.
Then, the entire state and SC are inundated with record breaking rain and SC with historic flood waters causing loss of lives, massive loss of agriculture in NC, and widespread destructive flooding in SC.
So, did the Iranian taxi driver get a hearing yet?
Correction to October 5, 2015 at 3:20 AM: Iraqi taxi driver
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
Things noticed: The Duke/Durham courthouse floods (a brand new court house mind you) on the day that the Iranian Taxi driver is due his next court appearance - so court is cancelled. Did he get a hearing yet to reduce the outrageous 1/2 million dollar bond so he can at least get out of jail and be with his wife and four kids?
Duke goes to great lengths to protect their Duke image once again, (they do that obviously as is seen in this current Duke/Mangum case)? One has to wonder.
Then, the entire state and SC are inundated with record breaking rain and SC with historic flood waters causing loss of lives, massive loss of agriculture in NC, and widespread destructive flooding in SC.
So, did the Iranian taxi driver get a hearing yet?
The media has been extremely quiet about the Iranian cab driver Ahmad Hezam (I believe that's his last name). I just assumed that he had been released long ago, but I don't know what has happened to him. If anyone knows I would appreciate an update, as well.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
There are many people who have mental illnesses who are very sane and intelligent.
To eradicate any misconception let me state that Crystal Mangum is as mentally healthy as am I... plus she is also sane and intelligent.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
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As you were.
In regards to Ahmed Hazam, the second-degree sexual offense charge was voluntarily dismissed by the district attorney.
An assault on a female charge resulted in 18 months supervised probation and Hezam having to pay court costs.
Sid wrote: "Walt, I'm sorry but you're wrong. As a matter of fact, Crystal phoned me last night and I specifically asked about her visitation with her daughter. She told me that it was a separate program from the other visitation scheduling... a separate program that enables inmate mothers to spend time with their children."
Sid, it's possible that there exists a program that is not authorized or even contemplated by regulation within the DOC for children of inmate mothers. But, no such program is known to the DOC or my contact within that organization. If it does exist, it is strictly local to NCCI. Of course, given Crystal's reputation for honesty, it is also possible she is not telling you the truth. Given your reputation for not listening to any information that might contradict your opinion, it is quite possible you didn't hear correctly. So, until I see some regulatory authority for inmate parents to visit with their children outside the regular visiting rules, I will stick with my conclusion that you are monopolizing Crystal's visitations to isolate her.
Walt-in-Durham
Nifong Supporter said...
"To eradicate any misconception let me state that Crystal Mangum is as mentally healthy as am I... plus she is also sane and intelligent."
In other words she is in big big big big trouble.
October 5, 2015 at 9:44 AM
Why are you not at least as concerned about the lies on either the state's autopsy report or duke medical records (whichever one is wrong since they cannot both be right)?
Because - the Defense expert looked into those issues - and noted them in her report. Unfortunately, after actually reviewing everything, and investigating it - she noted the esophageal intubation, and the errors with the autopsy - but she reached the same conclusion about the cause of death. You keep ignoring that. Her report was not exculpatory, and Sid keeps saying the prognosis was for a full recovery - it was, but he's a doctor, he knows sometimes those are wrong.
The report doesn't list every single detail, I'm sure the attorneys all talked with her and knew what she was going to say, and how she was going to answer it, and knew it would be bad for Crystal.
Sid and Kenny claim she must be corrupt. That's their only answer to anything - everyone who has looked into the full details of the case, and actually talked to those involved, don't agree with Sid and Kenny (neither of whom, by their own admission have reached out to Meier or anyone else). The fact that Sid has been wrong many, many times (and still clings to felony murder, which was never in play), should show you how reliable he is.
When the only answer you can come up with for why people disagree with you is they are all part of some vast Crystal-hating conspiracy, you've lost. It's pathetic you still give them any credibility - you are complicit in their abuse of Crystal.
Walt said: " I will stick with my conclusion that you are monopolizing Crystal's visitations to isolate her"................................ This perverse conclusion
indicates a total contempt for Crystal and for those wanting to see her receive justice. You pretend otherwise but what you facetiously offer as help is in reality an attempt to throw a monkey wrench into the sincere efforts Dr. Harr is making. Not all Attorneys concur with you assertion that the Welch and Holsclaw precedents are valid in this case.
No, I think Walt is right - isolation from friends and family is a hallmark of an abuser - and Sid has clearly shown through his actions towards Crystal that he is an abuser.
October 5, 2015 at 1:53 PM
I read the defense autopsy report and it said she died from a series of complications. So why does the Appeal court say she stabbed Mr. Daye to death when that is obviously NOT what happened? The complications need to be on trial if that is what he died from - which both autopsy reports claim. Neither claim that she stabbed him to death. I don't know that anyone talked to the defense medical examiner since she did not testify in court - and neither do you. The state's autopsy report questioning and testimony at trial was not sufficient to make any decision on the matter by the jury, and was full of errors and questionable 'facts'. That is not justice and you would not accept it for yourself, and I definitely would not accept it for anyone.
I am not complicit in anything. How dare you accuse me of that. I have spoken up where I saw issues from any one on this blog if I thought it would 'help' or had questions - a lot, so, again, you are wrong. You don't even know what the policy of the prison is, so why do you accuse anyone of anything in that matter until you actually find out for sure?
Are you a real lawyer? You don't seem very professional to me. You border on a hate-crime by accusing me of anything by lumping me into a category of protected persons whom you obviously hate.
I never said there was a conspiracy - I have said it is the way it is when Duke is involved in the Duke/Durham/NC in-justice system from what I have seen in all these cases. If it is a conspiracy in the legal sense, then perhaps charges should be filed in the appropriate venue for that. Did the lacrosse players file charges for a conspiracy against them, or did they just sue duke for it?
kenny said:
"Not all Attorneys concur with you assertion that the Welch and Holsclaw precedents are valid in this case."
Name one attorney who disagrees that Welsh and Holsclaw are binding precedents in this case.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
The judge at the trial.
Sidney,
Let me repeat something I wrote back on September 30:
'Sidney said
"Crystal's friends live in Durham, and so do not make it to Raleigh to visit her."
Actually, I imagine they're happy enough to let Sidney visit Crystal: this way they don't have to make the effort to visit her.'
I followed this with
' "Sorry, Crystal, I'd really like to visit you, but I realize how important your visits with Dr. Harr are. I wouldn't want to intrude." '
Please notice that I'd put quotation marks around this last statement. What I meant was that Crystal's friends from Durham were probably saying this, as a pretext to avoid making the effort to go to Raleigh.
I'm surprised you didn't understand this. Or did you in fact understand, and were you simply being disingenuous? [Note how I'm using one of Kenny's favorite words. Ask him to explain it to you.]
What are you going to accuse Dr. Harr of next? Not taking chocolate bars to Ms. Mangum every time he visits - therefore depriving her of the antioxidants they may provide?
"I read the defense autopsy report and it said she died from a series of complications. So why does the Appeal court say she stabbed Mr. Daye to death when that is obviously NOT what happened? The complications need to be on trial if that is what he died from"
You should read it again, if you found some unnamed "she" in the reports that died from a series of complications.
In regards to putting the "complications" "on trial", I'll simply borrow a line from an earlier poster:
"Even if Daye's injuries were aggravated or increased by the negligence, mistake, or lack of skill of a physician or surgeon, the law regards the negligence of the wrongdoer in causing the original injury as the proximate cause of the damages flowing from the subsequent negligent or unskillful treatment."
Anonymous 2:55pm claims that "the judge at the trial" disagrees that Welch and Hosclaw are binding precedents.
Judge Ridgeway provided the model jury instructions based on the Welch ruling. As a result, Anonymous 2:55pm is obviously mistaken.
Fake KH said:, ""Even if Daye's injuries were aggravated or increased by the negligence, mistake, or lack of skill of a physician or surgeon, the law regards the negligence of the wrongdoer in causing the original injury as the proximate cause of the damages flowing from the subsequent negligent or unskillful treatment"...................Absolutely yes if Daye was being treated for complications to the stab wound. He was not. He was being treated for acute alcohol withdrawal. Even un-wounded if he were deprived of alcohol the same situation would have occurred. None of the legal experts answered the question I posed at 2:46 PM October 2nd
Kenhyderal said,
"None of the legal experts answered the question I posed at 2:46 PM October 2nd"
Nobody's interested in talking to you, Kenny
Kenny,
You don't answer questions posed to you. What makes you think that you deserve answers to yours?
A word of warning: For you own sake, don't mess with kenhyderal.
Anonymous said: "Kenny,
You don't answer questions posed to you. What makes you think that you deserve answers to yours?"............................................ Huh? Give me an example.
Kenny -- Your excuses for Mangum are as tired and old as the suits you undoubtedly wear. Time to hang them up (both the excuses and suits) and get new ones.
For the record, the quote you have as being from me is actually from an earlier anonymous poster who I in turn quoted.
Fake Kenhyderal said...
In regards to Ahmed Hazam, the second-degree sexual offense charge was voluntarily dismissed by the district attorney.
An assault on a female charge resulted in 18 months supervised probation and Hezam having to pay court costs.
Hey, Fake Kenhyderal.
Thanks for the info. That is what I had believed. I think that it's horrendous that he accepted the plea deal and been put under supervised probation... and having to pay court costs. Is there anything on his criminal record as a result of this foolishness? Surely, he should not have been forced to pay court costs.
I believe that he should have fought the charges, just like James Arthur Johnson should have fought the Accessory after the fact charge against him. Plea deals are for the guilty. Innocent people should fight for acquittal. If the prosecution had a decent case against Ahmad, it would never have dismissed the second degree sexual assault charge.
Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Walt, I'm sorry but you're wrong. As a matter of fact, Crystal phoned me last night and I specifically asked about her visitation with her daughter. She told me that it was a separate program from the other visitation scheduling... a separate program that enables inmate mothers to spend time with their children."
Sid, it's possible that there exists a program that is not authorized or even contemplated by regulation within the DOC for children of inmate mothers. But, no such program is known to the DOC or my contact within that organization. If it does exist, it is strictly local to NCCI. Of course, given Crystal's reputation for honesty, it is also possible she is not telling you the truth. Given your reputation for not listening to any information that might contradict your opinion, it is quite possible you didn't hear correctly. So, until I see some regulatory authority for inmate parents to visit with their children outside the regular visiting rules, I will stick with my conclusion that you are monopolizing Crystal's visitations to isolate her.
Walt-in-Durham
Well, Walt, all I can tell you is that I am visiting Mangum every chance I get, and while doing so she is getting visitation with her child. So your argument that I am monopolizing visitation at the expense of her children is moot and not in line with reality.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Because - the Defense expert looked into those issues - and noted them in her report. Unfortunately, after actually reviewing everything, and investigating it - she noted the esophageal intubation, and the errors with the autopsy - but she reached the same conclusion about the cause of death. You keep ignoring that. Her report was not exculpatory, and Sid keeps saying the prognosis was for a full recovery - it was, but he's a doctor, he knows sometimes those are wrong.
The report doesn't list every single detail, I'm sure the attorneys all talked with her and knew what she was going to say, and how she was going to answer it, and knew it would be bad for Crystal.
Sid and Kenny claim she must be corrupt. That's their only answer to anything - everyone who has looked into the full details of the case, and actually talked to those involved, don't agree with Sid and Kenny (neither of whom, by their own admission have reached out to Meier or anyone else). The fact that Sid has been wrong many, many times (and still clings to felony murder, which was never in play), should show you how reliable he is.
When the only answer you can come up with for why people disagree with you is they are all part of some vast Crystal-hating conspiracy, you've lost. It's pathetic you still give them any credibility - you are complicit in their abuse of Crystal.
The defense expert, like the defense attorneys, was a turncoat whose actions were in the best interests of Duke University Hospital and the medical examiner. Facts are facts. Daye's initial intubation was esophageal. Esophageal intubation is fatal if not recognized immediately and corrected. Daye's esophageal intubation was recognized and corrected before he died, but following brain death.
The medical examiner and the turncoat defense forensic pathologist fail to specifically state what so-called complication was responsible for Daye's death. That's because they both know that it was the esophageal intubation placed for treatment of delirium tremens and not anything related to the stab wound. That's even evident from the text/e-mail to Woody Vann the day following Daye's death.
Your bias against Mangum won't allow you to accept the truth.
Anonymous said...
No, I think Walt is right - isolation from friends and family is a hallmark of an abuser - and Sid has clearly shown through his actions towards Crystal that he is an abuser.
So, in other words, I am an abuser of Crystal because I visit her?
Fact is that I have not only not isolated friends from Crystal, but I have enabled others to visit her. The truth is that I have, in the past, missed visitation with Crystal so that Victoria and Jackie could visit her.
You abuse Crystal because you try to isolate her and turn her against everyone but you. Then you keep feeding her false hope, just so you can repeatedly see it dashed. You are a pathetic and evil person.
Only Crystal thinks you are really trying to help her - Kenny, and the rest know you aren't, Kenny just likes the abuse too.
Actually, Wagstaff and Peterson just repeat all that Sidney tells her. I simply wonder why CGM has no other friends visiting her, not even poor old Milton who according to Kenhyderal is a great friend..
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I read the defense autopsy report and it said she died from a series of complications. So why does the Appeal court say she stabbed Mr. Daye to death when that is obviously NOT what happened?"
The legal doctrine is, no stab wound, no stab wound complications.
No medical training, no clinical experience kenhyderal said...
"Fake KH said:, ""Even if Daye's injuries were aggravated or increased by the negligence, mistake, or lack of skill of a physician or surgeon, the law regards the negligence of the wrongdoer in causing the original injury as the proximate cause of the damages flowing from the subsequent negligent or unskillful treatment"...................Absolutely yes if Daye was being treated for complications to the stab wound."
Hey, incredibly stupid, no clinical training, no clinical experience kenny hissy fit, Reginald Daye was being treated for complications of the stab wound.
kenhyderal said
"None of the legal experts answered the question I posed at 2:46 PM October 2nd".
Because you did not ask any knowledgeable, relevant questios,
Nifong Supporter said...
"I think that it's horrendous that [Ahmed Hazam] accepted the plea deal and been put under supervised probation... and having to pay court costs. Is there anything on his criminal record as a result of this foolishness? Surely, he should not have been forced to pay court costs.
I believe that he should have fought the charges, just like James Arthur Johnson should have fought the Accessory after the fact charge against him."
Presumes a fact not in evidence, that you can think.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Facts are facts."
Except the fantastic delusions you present as facts.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Your bias against Mangum won't allow you to accept the truth."
Your incredible stupidity and your less than rudimentary clinical background render you incapable of knowing truth. Which means your statement is meaningless, just likee your whole life.
Nifong Supporter said...
"So, in other words, I am an abuser of Crystal because I visit her?"
A visit by you on anyone is res ipsa loquitur extreme abuse.
Kenhyderal wrote: ".So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, they will still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital?? Although the facts were never presented to the Jury, that's not what I heard Ridgeway say and I'm sure no deliberating Jury would find such an instruction reasonable."
That is a leading question and argumentative. Thus no response is legitimately sought by the questioner. In other words, I thought you were just spouting off your usual uninformed opinion and deemed it pointless to respond. Apparently the other lawyers did too.
Walt-in-Durham
Sid wrote: "Well, Walt, all I can tell you is that I am visiting Mangum every chance I get, and while doing so she is getting visitation with her child. So your argument that I am monopolizing visitation at the expense of her children is moot and not in line with reality."
There you go again, Sid, contradicting yourself. First you say she barely ever gets visitation with her child and now you say different.
If there is some unauthorized supplemental visitations for inmate mothers and their children and Crystal is partaking in it, then good for her. Not so sure it's good for the child though. If there is no such program and you are not telling the truth, I wouldn't be surprised. If there is no such program and Crystal is not telling the truth, that would be in character.
Walt-in-Durham
@ Walt @3:50 PM. Obviously you oppose Crystal's acquittal. As far as being argumentative, let me re-phrase the question ......So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, will they still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital?? Although the facts were never presented to the Jury, that's not what I heard Ridgeway say.
kenhyderal said...
"So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, will they still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital??"
Invalid and irrelevant question since all the facts were presented to the jury and theu show crystal killed Reginald Daye.
Since no one established that malpractice happened, malpractice could not be presented as a fact.
It takes more than the opinion of no clinical training, no clinical experience kenny, or the opinion of was never accepted into a residency, never achieved board certification mr. harr to establish malpractice as fact.
Kenny asks: So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, will they still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital?? Although the facts were never presented to the Jury, that's not what I heard Ridgeway say.
The answer remains the same as every other time you have asked this question.
Ridgeway gave the model jury instructions based on Welch. Any poster who claims otherwise is either uninformed or dishonest.
If there was an intervening cause, Crystal is not responsible. If there was not an intervening cause, Crystal remains responsible.
Nichols testified that there was no intervening cause. Although she did not testify, Roberts concluded in both her written report and in her oral report to Crystal (when Vann was her attorney) that there was no intervening cause. She was not called to testify because this conclusion does not help Crystal.
Based on this evidence, Crystal remains responsible.
The fact that two of Crystal's friends conclude that the esophageal intubation was an intervening cause is not evidence. You and Sidney are both biased. Neither you nor Sidney are experts. Based on your past histories of making ridiculous allegations with no support, neither you nor Sidney is credible or trustworthy. No one believes anything that either of you say.
If you genuinely wish to help Crystal, I encourage you to stop wasting time posting on this blog. Hire an attorney who will pursue this legal strategy. Hire medical experts who support the conclusion that the intubation was an intervening cause. Above all, convince Crystal to stop taking advice from Sidney. Although he may be well meaning, he consistently demonstrates atrocious legal judgment and refuses to learn from his mistakes. Crystal is not well served by flawed advice from someone who is utterly clueless.
Anonymous said: " Hire medical experts who support the conclusion that the intubation was an intervening cause".............................. Rest assured if Crystal gets a new trial this will be easily done. Dr. Harr believes that a new trial will not be necessary and that the verdict will be summarily over-turned once the truth is known. Either way Crystal will eventually receive Justice; not to mention compensation for her wrongful conviction and incarceration
Dr. Harr once again shows his lack of legal knowledge and delusion. The legal remedy would be a new trial, they would not simply overturn a verdict and declare not guilty - that's not how it works. Crystal's best case under the law is a new trial. Constantly lying to her and misrepresenting the legal process to her is just cruel. If you really want to help her at least be accurate. Harr has no credibility with anyone who can help because of his misrepresentations and lack of understanding (see felony murder). Don't fall into that trap Kenny.
"Crystal will eventually receive Justice..."
...In 170 to 216 months
kenhyderal said...
"Dr. Harr believes that a new trial will not be necessary and that the verdict will be summarily over-turned once the truth is known."
Except the truth is already known, that crystal killed Reginald Daye.
The opinions of no legal training, no legal experience, no clinical training, no clinical experience kenny hissy fit, the opion of no legal experience, no legal training, minimal clinical training, minimal clinical experience, no residency, no board certification mr. harr, those opinions are worthless, less than insignificant. of no relevance.
Kenhyderal wrote: " Obviously you oppose Crystal's acquittal."
The facts, the law and a jury say she is guilty. You should not infer any position on my part.
"As far as being argumentative, let me re-phrase the question ......So, if facts presented to the jury show that it was Duke that killed Daye, will they still be instructed, they must find Crystal guilty of murder because she sent him to hospital??"
The relevant part of the pattern jury instruction reads: "If you find from the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that on or about the alleged date the defendant acting intentionally and with malice, wounded the victim with a deadly weapon, thereby proximately causing the victim's death, it would be your duty to return a verdict of guilty of second
degree murder."
"Although the facts were never presented to the Jury, that's not what I heard Ridgeway say."
You have consistently misrepresented the portion of the pattern jury instruction the court gave. Your hearing or your recollection is in error.
"Rest assured if Crystal gets a new trial this [hiring a contrary expert] will be easily done."
Not likely. First Sid tipped the defense hand by revealing that their expert agreed with the state. Then he compounded his error by convincing Crystal to demand a written report that her expert agreed with the state. Now, every competent expert knows that not just an overworked Medical Examiner found no intervening cause, but so did a highly respected defense expert. That alone will deter most other experts. But, assuming one can be found, he or she will be subject to a total demolition on the stand by Crystal's own expert.
"Dr. Harr believes that a new trial will not be necessary and that the verdict will be summarily over-turned once the truth is known."
The truth is known. You and Sid can ignore the law, continue to isolate and take advantage of Crystal until doomsday. That won't change the fact that the law is what it is. Crystal stabbed Daye with a knife sending him to the hospital where he died. Ignorance of the law is no defense. Serial ignorance is even worse.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Well, Walt, all I can tell you is that I am visiting Mangum every chance I get, and while doing so she is getting visitation with her child. So your argument that I am monopolizing visitation at the expense of her children is moot and not in line with reality."
There you go again, Sid, contradicting yourself. First you say she barely ever gets visitation with her child and now you say different.
If there is some unauthorized supplemental visitations for inmate mothers and their children and Crystal is partaking in it, then good for her. Not so sure it's good for the child though. If there is no such program and you are not telling the truth, I wouldn't be surprised. If there is no such program and Crystal is not telling the truth, that would be in character.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt, let me try once more to dispel any doubts regarding Mangum and visitation with her children. I met with her today and this is what she explained to me. There is a program called "MATCH" an acronym for Mothers And Their CHildren. It is a separate visitation program that allows mothers to meet for three hours with their children once a month.
Let me know if further elucidation is required.
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