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You do realize that everyone but Kenny and Tinfoil, and the anonymous folks you pretend to be, realize this site is a total joke, and you are a liar, and an abuser right?
Send all the letters you want - since you continue to cling to things like Felony Murder, the prior record, and other things that everyone knows are not valid, it immediately shows everyone that you simply are not serious. Whether you are mentally ill and can't comprehend something that doesn't fit your worldview, or you are in on the joke is irrelevant - we all know nothing you do can matter.
It's too bad you've so brainwashed Crystal that she won't turn to anyone who can help her - instead she clings to you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nifong Supporter said...
"Seriously, I am thankful for all of you individuals who contribute to this blog site with your comments... even if some of the comments are screwy".
So why do you duck responding to the challenge. Establish that crystal was the victim in the DUke rape case. You keep describing her as the "victim/accuser", that the prosecutions against her are a vendetta against her because of her role in the phony rape case.
So establish that she was the victim.
I do not duck any challenge. My time to respond to comments is limited generally, so I tend to try and respond to the comments that are pertinent, respectful, and on topic.
I would guess that in most criminal cases, the victim is, in fact, the accuser... and vice-versa, the accuser is oft times the victim. Technically, Mangum was the victim in the Duke Lacrosse case, claiming that she was sexually assaulted. Technically, the Duke lacrosse players she accused were the defendants.
I have a serious problem with the media repeatedly referring to Mangum as the "false accuser" because they have no proof that she was not sexually assaulted. By referring to Mangum as the victim/accuser I am merely trying to present her position in this drama more accurately than the media-types.
Let me know if further elucidation, edification, and enlightenment is required.
Anonymous said...
Sid,
You do realize that everyone but Kenny and Tinfoil, and the anonymous folks you pretend to be, realize this site is a total joke, and you are a liar, and an abuser right?
Send all the letters you want - since you continue to cling to things like Felony Murder, the prior record, and other things that everyone knows are not valid, it immediately shows everyone that you simply are not serious. Whether you are mentally ill and can't comprehend something that doesn't fit your worldview, or you are in on the joke is irrelevant - we all know nothing you do can matter.
It's too bad you've so brainwashed Crystal that she won't turn to anyone who can help her - instead she clings to you.
I have been sending letters for more than four years. To make my investigation and actions even more open and transparent, I have recently begun posting my postal correspondence online. Posting my letters online has no direct advantage to Mangum... the purpose they are posted is to give unprecedented access to my investigative process and provide enlightenment to visitors of this site. Would you prefer I not post correspondence?
With regards to Crystal, she placed her faith in her lawyers and the legal system... advice from her attorneys having more weight than mine. Look what happened as a result: Mangum was convicted of second-degree murder on a bogus charge, and she was sentenced to a maximum of eighteen years in prison.
I had persistently advised Mangum to represent herself. Finally, with the Pro Se filing of the Petition for Discretionary Review with the NC Supreme Court, for the first time an adjudicatory body will be presented with the truth... something her prior legal counsel willfully failed to do.
Crystal is not brain-washed. She is extremely intelligent, and in taking my advice, she has finally seen the light.
Nifong Supporter said...
"I do not duck any challenge. My time to respond to comments is limited generally, so I tend to try and respond to the comments that are pertinent, respectful, and on topic.
I would guess that in most criminal cases, the victim is, in fact, the accuser... and vice-versa, the accuser is oft times the victim. Technically, Mangum was the victim in the Duke Lacrosse case, claiming that she was sexually assaulted. Technically, the Duke lacrosse players she accused were the defendants."
This is just another iteration of you ducking the issue, an admission you can not establish that crystal was the victim of any crime. "I would guess that in most criminal cases, the victim is, in fact, the accuser... and vice-versa, the accuser is oft times the victim." Which means, you presume the Lacrosse players are guilty.
"I have a serious problem with the media repeatedly referring to Mangum as the "false accuser" because they have no proof that she was not sexually assaulted."
You have it wrong, mr. harr, grossly and unjustly wrong. The issue is whether or not there is any proof that she WAS sexually assaulted. There is no proof.
"By referring to Mangum as the victim/accuser I am merely trying to present her position in this drama more accurately than the media-types."
Bullshit. You are obfuscating.
"Let me know if further elucidation, edification, and enlightenment is required."
You have yet to provide any elucidation. How can you provide further elucidation. Here's a clue, mr. harr. Obfuscation is not a synonym of elucidation.
Nifong Supporter said...
"I have been sending letters for more than four years. To make my investigation and actions even more open and transparent, I have recently begun posting my postal correspondence online. Posting my letters online has no direct advantage to Mangum... the purpose they are posted is to give unprecedented access to my investigative process and provide enlightenment to visitors of this site. Would you prefer I not post correspondence?"
The delusion here is that you provide enlightenment. One who is not enlightened can not provide enlightenment to others.
"With regards to Crystal, she placed her faith in her lawyers and the legal system... advice from her attorneys having more weight than mine. Look what happened as a result: Mangum was convicted of second-degree murder on a bogus charge, and she was sentenced to a maximum of eighteen years in prison."
You have not established that the charges were bogus. You have simply proclaimed it, thinking, in a totally unenlightened manner, that your proclamations carry some legal weight.
"I had persistently advised Mangum to represent herself. Finally, with the Pro Se filing of the Petition for Discretionary Review with the NC Supreme Court, for the first time an adjudicatory body will be presented with the truth... something her prior legal counsel willfully failed to do."
Wrong. They will be presented with your proclamation that the charges were bogus, nothing more.
"Crystal is not brain-washed. She is extremely intelligent, and in taking my advice, she has finally seen the light."
That she is tking your advice is not a sign that she is highly intelligent.
Nifong Supporter said...
"I would guess that in most criminal cases, the victim is, in fact, the accuser"
Except when the accuser is a false accuser, and it has been established beyond any doubt that crystal falsely accused the lacrosse players of raping her, which makes her the victimizer and makes the Lacrosse players the victims.
More guilt presuming racism from mr. harr.
Sid-ninny, you are one truly deluded megalomaniac.
Sid-ninny, Crystal was the victim of no ne but herself. She accused three innocent men of raping her and was revealed as a false accuser.
Sid-ninny, considering your admitted lack of legal expertise, I submit you are incapable of determining any law, little known or otherwise, is "ambiguous, vague, and subject to a wide range of interpretation".
You were not bothered by the attempt of a corrupt prosecutor to wrongfully convict three innocent, falsely accused Duke Lacrosse players.
Sid-ninny, you would not refer to Ms. Mangum as the Victim/accuser in the Lacrosse case unless you believed the Lacrosse players were guilty.
Sid-ninny, you got that wrong. Crystal Mangum is the Duke Lacroees victimizer/false accuser.
mr. harr, the hypocrite, explain this: the burden of proof in a criminal case rests with the prosecution. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime happened and the accused had perpetrated the crime.
How did corrupt nifong esatblish that crystal had been raped in the first place? What gave him probable cause to suspect members of the Lacrosse team?
Sid falsely states: Technically, Mangum was the victim in the Duke Lacrosse case, claiming that she was sexually assaulted.
This statement is false. Under the law, Mangum is the "alleged victim", not the "victim." One does not achieve victim status merely by making an allegation.
I have a serious problem with the media repeatedly referring to Mangum as the "false accuser" because they have no proof that she was not sexually assaulted.
A review of the evidence available provides "proof" that Mangum was not sexually assaulted. As you know, the specific allegation contained in her written statement, combined with her selection of defendants, has been proven false.
By referring to Mangum as the victim/accuser I am merely trying to present her position in this drama more accurately than the media-types.
This is false. You are merely substituting your opinion (which you candidly admit is based on no evidence, but merely on Mangum's unsupported allegation), for the opinion of the media, which is grounded in the evidence.
You should be careful about the statements you make in your letters. When you make ridiculous false statements such as these, people conclude you are a Mangum apologist and do not take you seriously.
If you want people to consider your arguments seriously, I suggest that you eliminate these ridiculous arguments.
ubes posts anonymously again to create the illusion he has support.
Harr the hypocrite again posting anonymously and impotently
We can, all, at very least, agree that Crystal was robbed; ergo, she is a victim of, at the very least, that crime. She has yet to have the money, that was stolen from her and, later, recovered, in the hands of a Lacrosse Player, by Police, returned.
Boy are you p---ed off and stressed out over your incredible stupidity.
Kenny,
Why did Nifong not pursue those charges?
Nope wrong again Kenny hissy.....cute, really cute. Not correct, but cute.
Kenny,
Can you please study a style manual? Your overuse of commas makes your comment hard to read.
Ken-ninny-hyderal, what you really advocate is, evidence be d---ed, a black woman accused white men of raping her, and that alone should be enough to convict. That sounds like a pretty racist attitude to me.
Kenny,
Why didn't the DPD return her money? Are they thieves?
kenhyderal said...
"We can, all, at very least, agree that Crystal was robbed; ergo, she is a victim of, at the very least, that crime."
Except no one was ever indicted for that crime. Whethe or not it was ever crystal's money in the first place is in doubt. She was supposed to perform. When she arrived she was alredy impaired and incapable of performing.
now mr.harr.in his guise as kilgo, posts anonymously to create the illusion that people believe him when he posts as kilgo.
Sid,
Do you agree with Kenny that the Durham Police stole Crystal's money?
Kenny,
Why did Crystal steal Dave Evans' toiletry kit?
ght, ken, and I want to go on believing that the man in the red suit, in my living room, when I was six...was indeed Santa Claus and not my Dad. No evidence to prove it, but I hold on to that belief nonetheless. LOLOL.
No rape, no sexual assault, no robbery, no, nada, zip, nothing......the guys at the party, hired dancer, got themselves drunk, the strippers were loaded too, it was a stupid, loud, ignorant thing for ALL involved that night. But, there was no rape, no assault and no robbery. Last time I checked, hiring "exotic dancers" is not against the law in NC. YOU may think it ought to be illegal, but it isn't. I may want desperately to believe in Santa Claus, but somehow I think maybe that bald man
in the sloppy red suit was my poppa. I do know, however, that there will always be people like you and Sid who believe "something happened", just as I am sure you believe Kennedy was killed by LBJ's younger brother, Dr. King was shot by George Wallace's son, and Elvis is alive and living in a trailer park in Little Rock.
Mrs. Finnerty, apparently you suffer from
Lacrosse Brain Necrosis.
Common Law Robbery, sweetheart.
$400 in $20's recovered from your dear
degenerate children's whorehouse.
CONFIRMING that element of the victim's
reporting to the Durham Police.
Now why don't you go ask your dear
friend Larry Lamade about it.
Or have the lacrosse whore lawyers
kept you in dark about this also.
In my mind a false accusation of rape is a more serious charge than larceny. Moreover, the amount alleged to have been stolen is less than $400. Mangum was paid $200 for her six minute "dance." Most of that was recovered along with her cell phone. As you know, she took Evans' toiletry kit, rather than her wallet and cell phone, when she left the house.
Why did Nifong not pursue the larceny charges? Why did he falsely charge players (two of whom had nothing to do with Mangum's money)?
Kenny false states: We can, all, at very least, agree that Crystal was robbed;
This statement is false.
Robbery requires force or the threat of force. The allegation is that one or more players (named by Evans in his statement) took money out of Crystal's wallet. This does not involve force or the threat of force. The proper charge would have been larceny, not robbery.
Kenny, you have made this error in the past. Why do you continue to make demonstrably false statements? Why do you apparently believe that false statements make you more credible?
I ask that you apologize for your error.
Anonymous November 28, 2015 at 8:58 AM sounds like justice 58, aka myra kinderknecht. She is as fanatic asmr. harr and kenny hissy fit.
Assbrain at 8:58:
You owe Mrs. Finnerty an apology. Larceny committed by Finnerty's teammates would not have justified false rape charges against Finnerty.
Apologize.
harr the hypocrite and kenny hissy fit again posting anonymously to create the delusion they hav support.
mr. harr the hypocrite is again posting anonymously to create the delusuion that he has supporters
Boy are you p---ed off and stressed out over your incredible stupidity.
fy evil troll ubes
just anything to put me down and falsly accuse me right - nothing you say means anything anyway - since you basically sit here and troll anything and everything that anyone says on this blog that is anyway truthful about duke - everything to you is bully and troll and falsly accuse and disparage others
new low for you - or are you always this mean and stupid - oh wait - you are just trying to prove my point that duke is mean - it is a game to them - and they do not care how evil they are - as long as they feel like they 'win'
right evil duke troll? right.
Sidney,
YOU FAILED TO RESPOND TO EVIDENCE YOU LIED.
You lied when you stated that "all" of the discovery was not accessible to you.
Now, answer the question:
How can the allegation Mangum made in this statement possibly be true? She alleged that one of the alleged assailants (whom she named two days earlier) ejaculated in her mouth and she spit it out onto the floor. No DNA that matched any of the players was found in and on her.
You lied when you stated that none of Mangum's statement had been disproven.
You owe many people apologies.
I trust that you will post the apologies you send to the recipients of all letters in which you lied.
Let me ask another question. You are tying to convince people that the justice system failed Crystal and that medical and legal professionals misapplied the law. Why do you think that lying to the people you are asking for help gains you credibility?
mr. harr is a hypocrite. With regard to AG Cooper's press conference on the disposition of the Lacrosse case, mr. harr says the Attorney General's proclamation of the innocence of the lacrosse players had no legal weight(conveniently ignoring that AG Cooper proclaimed nothing). But no legal training, no legal experience mr. harr proclaims that corrupt nifong did not withhold evidence from the defense and that the evidence he was accussd of withholding was not exculpatory. And he thinks that proclamation has legal weight.
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Instead of “equal justice for all,” North Carolina follows a tenet of “selective justice based on Class and Color.” This is manifested by the fact that it is broken, corrupted, and hijacked.
That the system is broken is undeniable in lieu of the numerous incidents of innocent individuals being unjustly incarcerated for months and years, only later to be exonerated. Of few of North Carolina’s wrongly incarcerated include Erick Daniels, James Arthur Johnson, Floyd Brown, Alan Gell, Carletta Alston, and Kenneth Kagonyera.
Distinguished UNC-Chapel Hill law professor Rich Rosen, in a recent paper, cited that the Tar Heel state lagged only behind the states of Illinois and Louisiana in the number of death row inmates found later to be innocent of committing capital crimes.
Of those innocents who have been wrongfully sentenced to death or life include Darryl Hunt, Glen Edward Chapman, Levon “Bo” Jones, Gregory Taylor, and Joseph Sledge… all of whom have been deprived of precious decades of freedom… lost years in the prime of their lives for which no amount of money can compensate.
As I have stated before, the trial and inquisition given to Joan of Arc by the English was far fairer and much more humane than the state’s treatment afforded to Crystal Mangum, the Duke Lacrosse case victim/accuser. Ms. Mangum has clearly been subjected to a malign vendetta-driven prosecution by a wide ranging cabal of conspirators with a goal of exacting misguided payback for her role in the Duke Lacrosse case… and you can bet that their pursuit of this persecution is based in part on the fact that she is an African American woman.
It is shameful the power that the Carpetbagger families of the Duke Lacrosse defendants continue to hold over the mainstream media. The most recent disgraceful example can be found in the July 12, 2011 online article posted on wral.com titled “Father gains custody of Duke Lacrosse accuser’s children.”
One wonders how such a topic could once again focus on expressing the innocence of the three Duke Lacrosse defendants… but it does. WRAL follows the lead of many recent Duke lacrosse related stories in misleading the public with regards to the source of the defendants’ innocence. Initially, wral.com, and other media outlets stated that North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper, in his April 11, 2007 promulgation, found the three partygoing defendants “innocent” of sexual abuse charges related to the March 2006 beer-guzzling, stripper ogling bacchanal.
It wasn’t until this blog site repeatedly pummeled the media with the fact that the attorney general belongs to the executive branch of government, has no judiciary powers, and is incapable of the legal pronouncement of “innocent” or “guilt,” for that matter, that media types stopped naming the attorney general as the source of the boys’ exoneration.
Time and time again this blog enlightened readers, and e-mails informed media-types that, as former Campbell University law school professor Tony Baker stated, “Only a jury, or judge in lieu of a jury” can decide innocence or guilt.
So the media continues to morph its statement regarding the innocence of the Duke Lacrosse triad by stating, quote: “state officials (plural) later declared the players innocent,” unquote. This is a flagrant, bald-faced, in-your-face, two-faced lie. Fabrication. Prevarication. A blatant misrepresentation meant to deceive the public… or at least the vast majority who do not bother to engage their gray matter and are easily susceptible to Jedi mind-tricks.
By using the plural when citing “state official” wral is trying to give credibility to its claim that the boys were found innocent. I have spoken to media-types about this very issue in the past, and the only source given for the proclamation of innocence has been A.G. Roy Cooper.
Now, although the article was attributed to reporter Erin Hartness and Matthew Burns, the web editor, I doubt very seriously that either one of them is responsible for the misinformation about who was responsible for proclaiming the Duke Lacrosse defendants “innocent.” There is probably policy in place at WRAL, as well as in other media outlets, as how to phrase the innocence statement. Just as there most assuredly is a policy in place to bring up the alleged “innocence” of the Duke Lacrosse defendants whenever an article even remotely touches on someone who is somehow related to the Duke Lacrosse case.
Not only that, but you can bet that certain topics related to the Duke Lacrosse case are strictly off limits. For example, the fact that the three defendants and their avaricious attorneys shook down Duke University for $20 million each and are seeking an additional $10 mil from the city of Durham, is never broached.
If you enjoy comedy, especially the kind in which its humor is derived from the contrast of its content with reality, then you won’t want to miss the upcoming TV-cinematic fare offered by HBO about the Duke Lacrosse case. Although I am sure it is going to be marketed as an objective docu-drama about the Duke Lacrosse case, I cannot help but believe that it will be nothing more than just another thinly veiled volley from the carpetbagger jihad against former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong.
I admire HBO for accepting the inherent challenge of trying to present the beer guzzling, publicly intoxicated, public urinating, spoiled and privileged Duke student athlete partygoers as decent and respectable innocents who are targeted by a ruthless and conniving district attorney for the sole purpose of wooing the black vote as a surefire means of retaining his D.A. position in the May 2006 primary. The entire premise is total folly itself, and actually lends itself as fodder for a hilarious comedy… the only problem is is that this movie is supposed to be taken seriously.
Now I have not read the screenplay, but I believe that the producer’s intention is to sympathetically portray the members of the Duke Lacrosse team in a favorable light by omitting the fact that nearly a third of the 47 lacrosse team roster had had skirmishes with the law (including an assault charge against Duke Lacrosse defendant Collin Finnerty, and an alcohol related charge against Duke Lacrosse defendant and team captain Dave Evans). I would imagine that the made for HBO-TV movie is supposed to tug at its viewers’ heartstrings because of the travails and trauma suffered by the three defendants and their families (although not one of the defendants spent a day in jail and they each received $7 million in an out-of-court settlement with Duke University). Also, remember to disregard reality as the movie will undoubtedly present North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper’s April 11, 2007 “Innocent Promulgation” as a watershed moment that cements the innocence of the three Duke Lacrosse defendants. (Since that day, the media has knowingly embraced that declaration – which they knew to have no legal weight – as a basis upon which to use descriptive terms such as “innocent,” “falsely accused,” and “exonerated” to describe the Duke defendants.)
It is important for the potential viewer of this future movie to enjoy it for its comedic offerings, and not to try and extract anything deep, significant or meaningful from it. Keep in mind that in a range of artistic offerings it is much closer to a Hardy Boys mystery than a time weathered classic such as Victor Hugo’s “Les Miserables.”
Instead of wasting its money to buy the rights for the pitiful story of the Duke Lacrosse boys attending a stripper party and its aftermath, HBO should have waited for a story with real merit to come along. It would not have had to wait long, as a tragic story with a Hollywood ending recently unfolded when Gregory Flint Taylor was released from jail… a free man. After spending 17 years wrongfully imprisoned for a murder he did not commit, all that remains, at this time, is a pardon from North Carolina Governor Bev Perdue. Odds are highly in Greg Taylor’s favor that it will come sooner rather than later.
harr the hypocrite and kenny hissy fit again posting anonymously to create the delusion they have support.
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Wow. It seems harr the hypocrite, kenny hissy fit, maybe justicce 58, tinfoil, whoever, whatever it might be, maybe even victoroia peterson all undergoing a massive meltdown when exposed to the truth.
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kenhyderal and I are big Trump fans.
Really? Why?
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KH Supporter said: "kenhyderal and I are big Trump fans" Completely wrong. I am a supporter of Reverend Al Sharpton.
I am a supporter of Reverend Al Sharpton.
...and Tawana Brawley?
To quote Sarah Palin "You betcha"
kenhyderal said...
"KH Supporter said: "kenhyderal and I are big Trump fans" Completely wrong. I am a supporter of Reverend Al Sharpton."
And you think your your support of a lying rabid race baiter is something great? No wonder you want to get lying false accuser/murderess crystal a pass for her crimes.
kenhyderal said...
"To quote Sarah Palin 'You betcha'"
If you are referring to false rape accusr tawana, how about you help her pay off that judgement Stephen agones won agaoinst her for defamation. Tawana never tried to defend the suit. She defaulted, meaning she did admit she had lied when she accused Stephen Pagones of raping her.
Here is the kenny paradox. He claims he is a man of high moral standards. Yet he idolizes criminals, liars, race baiters.
PHEW!!! The stench from the meltdown reaches all the way out here to the West Cosst.
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It looks like Trump is trying to save everyone from another national rape publicity ordeal by pushing everyone over to the democrates by running on the Repub. ticket. Luckily Ms. Clinton isn't black. Still time though of course.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
mr. harr, the hypocrite, explain this: the burden of proof in a criminal case rests with the prosecution. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime happened and the accused had perpetrated the crime.
How did corrupt nifong esatblish that crystal had been raped in the first place? What gave him probable cause to suspect members of the Lacrosse team?
Although I do not want to dwell on the Duke Lacrosse case and would prefer to concentrate on Mangum's current situation, I will say that I agree that before someone is judged to be guilty of a criminal charge the prosecution must prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt. Nifong, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case, never had the opportunity to present his case as he was forced off it by the State Bar, and the prosecution discovery and evidence related to it was locked from public view by the Attorney General Cooper.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wow. It seems harr the hypocrite, kenny hissy fit, maybe justicce 58, tinfoil, whoever, whatever it might be, maybe even victoroia peterson all undergoing a massive meltdown when exposed to the truth.
Further elucidation is required.
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"Although I do not want to dwell on the Duke Lacrosse case and would prefer to concentrate on Mangum's current situation, I will say that I agree that before someone is judged to be guilty of a criminal charge the prosecution must prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt. Nifong, the prosecutor in the Duke Lacrosse case, never had the opportunity to present his case as he was forced off it by the State Bar, and the prosecution discovery and evidence related to it was locked from public view by the Attorney General Cooper."
mr. harr, you do not want to discuss the lacrosse case because you can't. corrupt nifong never ha a case. corrupt nifong was not forced off the case. He recused himself and asked the AG to take over the case after ethicx charges were filed against him, over his inappropriate, inflammatory guilt presuming statements, statements he made before he had any evidence. The discovery and evidence as not sealed. You choose to remain willfully ignorant of it.
The issue you are ducking is, you refer to crystal as the "victim/accuser" in the lacrosse case, meaning you do presume guilty the people she falsely accused.
The bottom line is you are a guilt presuming racist.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wow. It seems harr the hypocrite, kenny hissy fit, maybe justicce 58, tinfoil, whoever, whatever it might be, maybe even victoroia peterson all undergoing a massive meltdown when exposed to the truth.
Further elucidation is required."
Indeed it is. However, since you willfully choose to remain ignorant of the truth, elucidation will do you no good.
Except, Nifong himself admitted there wasn't evidence for rape - and he completely ignored that one of the kids was clearly mis-identified - he refused to listen.
Sid is a lying, abusive joke.
harr the hypocrite, here's something for you.
corrupt nifong was convicted of withholding exculpatory evidence from the lacrosse defendants.
You allege that he did not withhold the evidence and that the evidence was not exculpatory.
If the case files were indeed sealed you would not be able to know that.
Plus, you have yet to respond to this, why was the evidence not exculpatory?
mr. harr, why was the dna evidence found by dna security on crystal's person, dna which did not match the dna of the people corrupt nifong accused, why was this not exculpatory evidence, especially since testing of the rape kit showed beyond any doubt that the dna had not been deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006
Kenhyderal wrote: "We can, all, at very least, agree that Crystal was robbed; ergo, she is a victim of, at the very least, that crime."
No we cannot agree. There is absolutely no evidence to support the charge of robbery. In North Carolina, we have two different possible robbery charges. First, common law robbery which is defined as: The taking of the property of another with the intent to permanently deprive that person of it with the use of force or the fear of force. N.C. Pattern Jury Instruction 217.10.
The second possible robbery charge is found in statute at: § 14-87. Robbery with firearms or other dangerous weapons.
(a) Any person or persons who, having in possession or with the use or threatened use of any firearms or other dangerous weapon, implement or means, whereby the life of a person is endangered or threatened, unlawfully takes or attempts to take personal property from another or from any place of business, residence or banking institution or any other place where there is a person or persons in attendance, at any time, either day or night, or who aids or abets any such person or persons in the commission of such crime, shall be guilty of a Class D felony.
In either instance, the state must prove three things:
1) that Crystal had property,
2) that someone took it from her, and
3) that taking was by force or threat of force.
Here, the there is no evidence of the third element and it is questionable that she earned her fee as she danced for only moments and spent the rest of her very short period of time in the bathroom. No force, no robbery.
What Crystal is, is a liar. She falsely accused three innocent men of an unspeakable crime.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt,
But you think it is quite ok for Duke to kill someone with malpractice and then let the state medical examiner system lie about it and the in-justice system cover up and lie about the malpractice and the medical examiner's questionable autopsy reports in order to take the life and liberties of anyone away from them. Why are their lies acceptable to you?
Anonymous said: `especially since testing of the rape kit showed beyond any doubt that the dna had not been deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006`.............................................It showed no such thing. It only showed that a semen depositing rape was not perpetrated by any of the Duke Lacrosse Team Members. Team members do not equate to Party attenders
harr the hypocrite posting anonymously again. Or maybe kenny hissy fit.
kenhyderal said...
"Anonymous said: `especially since testing of the rape kit showed beyond any doubt that the dna had not been deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006`.............................................It showed no such thing. It only showed that a semen depositing rape was not perpetrated by any of the Duke Lacrosse Team Members. Team members do not equate to Party attenders"
kenny gets it wrong again. No alkaline phosphatase means semen deposition can not be established, which means in turn the sperm fraction dna on the night of 13/14 March 2006 can not be established.
kenny hissy fit, explain this. If crystl had been raped and if the dna found on crystal by dna security was the key to identifying who raped crystal, why did corrupt nifong conceal the existence of that evidence rather than pursue it?
Clarification:
kenhyderal said...
"Anonymous said: `especially since testing of the rape kit showed beyond any doubt that the dna had not been deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006`.............................................It showed no such thing. It only showed that a semen depositing rape was not perpetrated by any of the Duke Lacrosse Team Members. Team members do not equate to Party attenders"
kenny gets it wrong again. No alkaline phosphatase means semen deposition can not be established, which means in turn deposition of the sperm fraction dna on the night of 13/14 March 2006 can not be established.
mr. harr the hypocrite, in your latest round of correspondence you persist in calling crystal the "victim/accuser" of the duke lacrosse case and persist in calling the prosecution of corrupt nifong on ethics charges unjustified.
SO, without resorting to your customary evasiveness, establish that anyone victimized crystal on the night of 13/14 March 2006, and establish that corrupt nifong had probable cause to prosecute the members of the Lacrosse team.
Anonymous at 10:36 AM wrote: "But you think it is quite ok for Duke to kill someone with malpractice..."
I never wrote such a thing. What I have written is the state of the law in North Carolina that simply says malpractice is not an intervening cause and that contributory negligence has no place in the criminal law. I have provided citation to the case law. You are deceitful in claiming otherwise. In fact, it is not OK for Duke to kill someone with malpractice. However, the remedy is not to acquit Crystal. The remedy lies with the late Reginald Daye and his estate. If in fact Duke committed malpractice.
"... and then let the state medical examiner system lie about it and the in-justice system cover up and lie about the malpractice and the medical examiner's questionable autopsy reports in order to take the life and liberties of anyone away from them."
If there was one shred of evidence that the M.E. lied, that I would not stand for it. However, the evidence is he told the truth. He saw Daye. He had the opportunity to examine him. He reached a diagnosis as to the cause of death. A diagnosis confirmed by the defense' own independent medical examiner. Given that evidence, I have to conclude that in fact the M.E. was telling the truth.
"Why are their lies acceptable to you?"
Because they are not shown to be lies.
Walt-in-Durham
Anonymous Anonymous said...
harr the hypocrite posting anonymously again. Or maybe kenny hissy fit.
Hah! I don't need to post anonymously. What's the purpose? If people agree with me, fine... I've been able to at least enlighten someone. If people don't agree with me, fine, too. That's what democracy is all about. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. For example, I feel that it was wrong for Cam Newton to tear down the banner of the Green Bay Packer fan at the Carolina stadium. I don't feel it was being disrespectful, no more than cheering for the Packers or wearing Packer sportswear at the game. The game would be less interesting if only the home team were allowed to cheer and boo, and the visiting team had no representation at all. Likewise, this blog site would be less interesting if not for opinions which differ from mine. I would not want a site with only comments in agreement or in support of me.
Let me know if further elucidation, edification, or enlightenment is required.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
I have just finished writing the narration for the next sharlog. To quote the Donald, "It's huge!" The word count is over 12,000. It'll probably take me two or three days just to narrate it. Undoubtedly it will require several parts... maybe as many as three or four. Because of its length, I will probably upload the parts as they are completed. It'll be one of the most important and in-depth sharlogs to date and will focus on the Appeal in the Mangum case. I will keep you abreast as to its production.
As you were.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Hah! I don't need to post anonymously."
Nevertheless, I believe you do post anonymously to create the illusion that people believe you.
"Let me know if further elucidation, edification, or enlightenment is required."
ow can someone so willfully blind to the truth elucidate anything or enlighten anyone.
Nifong Supporter said...
"[The next Sharlog} be one of the most important and in-depth sharlogs to date".
Not much of a claim as none of your sharlogs have ever covered anything in depth. They are just meaningless screeds, from your delusional, megalomaniacal imagination.
Hey mr.harr the hypocrite. Stop with the dodging and ducking. Establish that anyone ever victimized crystal on the night of 13/14 March 2006. Establish that corrupt nifong had probable cause to prosecute any member of the Lacrosse team for raping crystal.
More for harr the hypocrite:
On the one hand you say the case file for the Duke rape case has been sealed and you have no access to it.
On the other hand you say that the only people who know the truth about the case are you and those who believe you.
How can you know the truth when you have no access to the evidence?
Anonymous said`: kenny gets it wrong again. No alkaline phosphatase means semen deposition can not be established, which means in turn deposition of the sperm fraction dna on the night of 13/14 March 2006 can not be established.`.........................Nor can it be excluded. It`s axiomatic that the presence of unidentified DNA, unexplained by Crystal`s consensual sexual history that was extracted from sperm, means semen was present and that she was raped
kenhyderal said...
"It`s axiomatic that the presence of unidentified DNA, unexplained by Crystal`s consensual sexual history that was extracted from sperm, means semen was present and that she was raped"
Again kenny hissy fit gets it wrong. The failure to detect alkaline phosphatase on the rape kit materials, taken in a timely fashion after the alleged rape and preserved, establishes that semen was not deposited on crystal's person on the night of 13/14 March 2006. The presence of sperm fraction dna does not establish that she had been raped, only that she had had intercourse, at some time before the night of 13/14 dMarch 2006.
kenhyderal said...
"No alkaline phosphatase means semen deposition can not be established, which means in turn deposition of the sperm fraction dna on the night of 13/14 March 2006 can not be established.`.........................Nor can it be excluded."
Something else kenny hissy fit gets wrong. Whether or not semen deposition can be excluded is legally irrelevant. The obligation of the prosecution is to prove something did happen. No one, especially the defense, is obligated to prove something did not happen.
In this case, the evidence DID prove the rape did not happen. kenny hissy fit has himself in a knot because the source of the unidentified dna was never determined. He has yet to explain this situation, that corrupt da nifong, who had custody of the evidence that no one at the Lacrosse party could have raped crystal, made no attempt to identify who left their dna.
Of course kenny hissy fit will say, no one can prove there were no mystery rapists, forgetting again, that as the one asserting that there were, his is the obligation to prove it. That no one can formally disprove it is irrelevant.
Except of course to a guilt presuming al sharpton, tawana brawley admiring racist.
Kenhyderal said,
"unexplained by Crystal`s consensual sexual history"
You mean, unexplained by what Crystal is willing to tell us. In fact you are the only one here who claims that Crystal told everything about her consensual history. Since we all know what a liar she is, your statement is worthless.
Let`s hope the extracted DNA has been preserved.
So what are you going to do now, assuming it has been preserved? Will you try to test all of Crystal's customers for the two-week period prior to the night you and she claim she was attacked? Or is that too sarcastic a question for you?
kenhyderal said...
"Let`s hope the extracted DNA has been preserved."
Why?
There is no evidence that whatever male dna was found on crystal was due to a rape.
Crystal was raped by Sidney Harr and kenhyderal-- in whiteface!
At Guiowen and Anonymous 3:50: Again, lets hope the records were kept. I assume the DPD at one time had them. They did interview only one client who affirmed that there was no sexual contact. A more productive approach would to identify all non team members who attended the party and have them tested; something that was never done but with a cold case file and good detective work it still could be.
kenhyderal said...
"A more productive approach would to identify all non team members who attended the party and have them tested; something that was never done but with a cold case file and good detective work it still could be."
First off, irrelevant. There was no evidence that a rape ever happened.
Second and most more important, explain why corrupt nifong made no attempt to identify any possible source of the dna. Why did corrupt nifong conceal the existence of the dna evidence. That is why no attempt was ever made to identify the source.
Guiowen,
You and anonymous 10:38, etc. misunderstand Kenny. Kenny is a master debater. He isn't actually trying to convince anyone that mystery rapists gang raped Crystal at the lacrosse party. He isn't arguing that any law enforcement agency should open up an investigation. He doesn't argue that there should have been a trial. Kenny is master debating.
As a master debater, he doesn't have to prove anything. When he master debates, he simply makes an allegation, preposterous as it may be, and then sits back and watches others fail when they try to prove with absolute certainty that his allegation could not possibly be true. You and anonymous overstate your conclusions.
Guiowen, you charge that Crystal lied about her sexual history, omitting multiple consensual partners. I agree that you are almost certainly correct. However, one cannot prove that with absolute certainty. It is possible, although highly improbable, that semen was deposited by multiple parties in a rape, either before or during the party. As a master debater, Kenny wins when he advances an extraordinarily improbable scenario. You must prove with absolute certainty that his allegation could not possibly be true.
Similarly, anonymous misses the point when he states that there is no proof that Crystal was raped. That is correct, but irrelevant. Kenny is a master debater. As such, he isn't required to prove anything. I concede Kenny's point. It is theoretically possible that Crystal was raped at the party, that dozens of players and other guests (including the defendants) covered it up, that Nifong and the DPD were so focused on framing defendants for a crime they thought never occurred, that no evidence that surfaced on its own or in the special prosecutor's investigation, that although she was wrong about all of the details, Crystal really was raped. It is preposterous, but it is theoretically possible. As a master debater, Kenny wins.
I think we all must admire Kenny's cleverness as a master debater. Unlike Sidney, who is an ineffective master debater, Kenny reacts to evidence when he master debates. He recognizes that the failure to find player DNA rules out the players as rapists. However, the failure of Nifong and the DPD to identify the unmatched DNA opens the door for the mystery rapists. Because there was no investigation, one cannot prove with absolute certainty that his allegation is not false. As a master debater, Kenny wins.
Anonymous said: "First off, irrelevant. There was no evidence that a rape ever happened...........Presence of DNA extracted from sperm unexplained by Crystal's consensual sexual history
Second and most more important, explain why corrupt nifong made no attempt to identify any possible source of the dna. Why did corrupt nifong conceal the existence of the dna evidence. That is why no attempt was ever made to identify the.................DA Nifong did not conceal the DNA evidence. It was there for the Defence to find. He wrongly believed it would not be necessary to identify the source of the DNA as he thought he had sufficient evidence to proceed anyway on sexual assault and kidnapping equally serious felonies. The botched Police investigation, the flawed photo line-up and the failure of eye-witnesses to cooperate thwarted justice and did him in
kenhyderal said...
"DA Nifong did not conceal the DNA evidence. It was there for the Defence to find."
Your must enjoy showing the world how wrong you can be.
Exculpatory evidence is not just there, as you seem to believe, for the defense to find. It is not a matter of the defense just having an opportunity to find exculpatory evidence. The prosecution is obligated by law to make the defense aware of any and all exculpatory evidence the prosecution might find. The male dna on Crystal's person was discovered by the prosecution, via a non testimonial order obtained by the Durham DA's office.
As was told to your master, mr. harr the hypocrite, the law, I say again, the LAW concerning evidence obtained by a non testimonial order in North Carolina is that the agency obtaining the evidence, in this case the Durham DA's office, was obligated to turn over a REPORT, not just the raw data but the REPORT, to those subjected to the nto, and to turn over said report in a timely manner. Corrupt nifong turned over not the REPORT but the RAW DATA, months AFTER he had the report. Corrupt nifong did attempt to conceal the evidence.
"He wrongly believed it would not be necessary to identify the source of the DNA as he thought he had sufficient evidence to proceed anyway on sexual assault and kidnapping equally serious felonies."
Here it is again, the sexual assault alleged by crystal was a forcible rape perpetrated by multiple assailants who had penetrated her person and who had left their dna on her person. The results from DNA Security, which corrupt nifong did conceal from the defendants, showed beyond any doubt that the alleged sexual assault, the rape alleged by crystal had not occurred. If a rape had indeed occurred, the results from DNA Security showed beyond all doubt that those deemed suspects by the Durham DA's office, were not the perpetrators. Corrupt nifong knowingly, willfully proceeded to indict innocent men knowing he had NO probable cause to do so. He had nothing.
"The botched Police investigation, the flawed photo line-up and the failure of eye-witnesses to cooperate thwarted justice and did him in".
Please explain how there could be eye witnesses to a crime which never happened.
The "botched police investigation" and the "flawed photo lineup" took place because because there were no witnesses and no evidence to corroborate the alleged crime. Corrupt nifong wanted to prosecute members of the Lacrosse. So he ordered the flawed lineup and did no investigation.
kenhyderal said...
"Anonymous said: "First off, irrelevant. There was no evidence that a rape ever happened...........Presence of DNA extracted from sperm unexplained by Crystal's consensual sexual history"
Again wrong. It does not establish that the dna was deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006. Ergo it is not evidence which establishes that a crime happened.
Kenny - you do understand the difference between a cold case and a closed case, right?
DPD does not consider this a cold case, they consider it a closed case - they determined that Crystal was not assaulted that night at the Lacrosse Party. They believe she lied about the attack, lied about her past sexual partners (not wanting to admit to prostitution because she thought it would affect her custody of her kids), pretty much lied about everything.
I doubt they kept any of the evidence from the case as it is a closed case. It will not get re-opened. I know you have to keep lying to Crystal to keep up the cycle of abuse, but aside from her and Sid, no one believes a word you say.
I wish you and Sid would leave Crystal alone - you've done a lot of harm, and continue to do harm. It's sad that some people, like you and Sid, get off on abusing and taking advantage of those more vulnerable than you.
Your concern for Crystal is disingenuous. You show utter contempt for her. You slanderously call her a liar and a prostitute. Your unprofessional attempts at psychology are contemptible. You hate Crystal that's plain to her and to all those who care for her. Why?
kenhyderal said...
"Your concern for Crystal is disingenuous. You show utter contempt for her. You slanderously call her a liar and a prostitute. Your unprofessional attempts at psychology are contemptible. You hate Crystal that's plain to her and to all those who care for her. Why?"
crystal accused members of the lacrosse team of raping her.
The evidence generated showed beyond all doubt that crystal had not been raped.
What other conclusion can there be other than crystal lied about being raped. What conclusion can be drawn other than that crystal was the one who slandered others.
our efforts to get a pass for your favorite murderess/false accuser do nothing for you except show what a guilt presuming racist you are.
Correction:
kenhyderal said...
"Your concern for Crystal is disingenuous. You show utter contempt for her. You slanderously call her a liar and a prostitute. Your unprofessional attempts at psychology are contemptible. You hate Crystal that's plain to her and to all those who care for her. Why?"
crystal accused members of the lacrosse team of raping her.
The evidence generated showed beyond all doubt that crystal had not been raped.
What other conclusion can there be other than crystal lied about being raped. What conclusion can be drawn other than that crystal was the one who slandered others.
Your efforts to get a pass for your favorite murderess/false accuser do nothing for you except show what a guilt presuming racist you are.
Kenhyderal wrote: "DA Nifong did not conceal the DNA evidence."
Wrong. Nifong was asked by the court in the May 2006 hearing if he had any exculpatory evidence. Knowing he had a report, because he received the briefing, that there was no scientific evidence to identify the defendants, Nifong answered he had none. He then waited months to turn over the report to the defense. He buried the report in a mountain of other documents that he turned over to the defense under the guise of "open file discovery." That is concealing of evidence because he was asked specifically about it in court.
"It was there for the Defence to find."
Not good enough. The DNASI report was exculpatory thus under our constitutional law he was obligated to disclose it.
"He wrongly believed it would not be necessary to identify the source of the DNA as he thought he had sufficient evidence to proceed anyway on sexual assault and kidnapping equally serious felonies."
Actually no. Either case requires the identification of specific defendants. Without DNA evidence to identify the defendants, he had nothing to proceed on either theory.
"The botched Police investigation, the flawed photo line-up and the failure of eye-witnesses to cooperate thwarted justice and did him in."
The eye-witnesses did cooperate. They gave statements. They did so without representation. Further, they offered their own alibi evidence and Nifong refused to even listen. He did himself in by being both a lousy lawyer and proceeding without probable cause. Oh, and lying to the media, don't forget that.
Walt-in-Durham
Kenhyderal,
Let's just get one thing straight. I don't care what happens to Crystal. It's all the same to me whether she rots in jail. It's all the same to me whether she gets out.
I give Sidney advice because he's my friend. If he refuses to take it, it's too bad, but I won't cry about it.
I don't give you advice because I don't think you're worth it. On occasion you make some very stupid comments. I try to show you what such comments, taken to their logical extreme, would entail. You of course complain that I'm being sarcastic, but you deserve sarcasm.
An example of this is your comment that Crystal's employer has a complete list of her customers. Anyone would think that you're suggesting these customers be tested for DNA. When I point this out, you say I'm a "wounded man", whatever that means. You then retreat and say you want a complete list of anyone who was at the famous party.
I realize you're very good at finding clever comments, from Oscar Wilde and others. That doesn't make your own comments any wiser. Don't try to make us think it does.
fy evil duke troll it g...and hate-crime blog monger
blah
Note: feel free to plagerize and repeat the above after every one of your posts ... just for amusement and all ... g...
harr the hypoccrite, kenny hissy fit posting anonymously and stupidly again.
Hey,
It's the cry-bully Tinfoil again!
Cry bully cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh;
he's old enough to know better,
So cry bully cry!
Guiowen said: "I give Sidney advice because he's my friend" Some friend. You've insulted Dr. Harr almost as viciously as you have Crystal and the so-called advice you give him is disingenuous and reeks of sarcasm. I suppose, though, some of your best friends are Black.
Kenhyderal,
I don't insult Sidney. For that matter, I don't insult Crystal. Who my friends are, you don't know.
I'm sorry your ideas are so foolish that you can't recognize good advice when you see it. I'm not the one who got Crystal sent up the creek for 14 years.
By the way, Kenny, I'm glad to see you finally let your racial hatred show. It must have been hard trying to keep it bottled up.
no evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger - it's not me and i'm not a bully ... like that post says ... you (or another) plagiarized, copied and posted the remark - read the post - it was posted to remind all of the hatemongering trolling evil duke cyberbully antics that you use on a continuous basis - remember that the next time it's done ... thanks and blah
p.s.
dr. harr stated he calls you a friend because it rhymes with guiowen
remember that too
Anonymous Anonymous said...
More for harr the hypocrite:
On the one hand you say the case file for the Duke rape case has been sealed and you have no access to it.
On the other hand you say that the only people who know the truth about the case are you and those who believe you.
How can you know the truth when you have no access to the evidence?
I believe there is relevant misunderstanding on your part. Yes, the case file on the Duke Lacrosse case has been sealed and I have no access to it.
But, with regards to the Mangum murder case, the only people who know the truth besides me and the conspirators are those who visit this blog site. I know the truth about the Mangum murder case because I have access to the evidence... given to me by Crystal Mangum in the form of prosecution discovery.
This should adequately address your query.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
Just an update on progress of the next sharlog. By day's end, I should have completed recording more than half of the sharlog's narration. As previously mentioned, this will be far and away the largest sharlog to date. I should finish recording the narrative by tomorrow.
As you were.
Nifong Supporter said...
" Anonymous Anonymous said...
More for harr the hypocrite:
On the one hand you say the case file for the Duke rape case has been sealed and you have no access to it.
On the other hand you say that the only people who know the truth about the case are you and those who believe you.
How can you know the truth when you have no access to the evidence?
I believe there is relevant misunderstanding on your part. Yes, the case file on the Duke Lacrosse case has been sealed and I have no access to it.
But, with regards to the Mangum murder case, the only people who know the truth besides me and the conspirators are those who visit this blog site. I know the truth about the Mangum murder case because I have access to the evidence... given to me by Crystal Mangum in the form of prosecution discovery.
This should adequately address your query."
It doesn't.
You did not address the issue. You, as is your wont, dodged it.
Way to go, harr the hypocrite.
TinFoil,
I guess there must be two Tinfoils. The Cry-bully and the Non-cry-bully. Please, when you post, let us know which one you are. It's hard to keep track of you otherwise.
December 3, 2015 at 7:37 AM
if you stopped evil duke trolling and tinfoil hatemongering and overall cyberbullying on this blog you wouldn't have to worry about it evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger
i rarely post to this blog anymore ... so just assume it isn't me ... because it rarely if ever is ... but plagiarizing copying and pasting to fake troll yourself so that you can hatemonger cyberbully yourself some more (which is really and truly evil btw) as you do ALL the time - you know that
Hey anonymous @ December 3, 2015 at 8:23 AM
When you put the material in quotes and cite the source, e.g.
Anonymous said...
"December 3, 2015 at 7:37 AM
if you stopped evil duke trolling and tinfoil hatemongering and overall cyberbullying on this blog you wouldn't have to worry about it evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger"
It is not plaigerism.
Plaigerism is what Ward Churchill and Madonna Constantine did, copying others' work and then publishing it as their own work.
Now go and stress out over your incredible stupidity.
December 3, 2015 at 8:29 AM
well yeah - not when you do it to troll the evil duke troll it g... (you?) some of the time it isn't because you change the wording a bit to make it obvious that you simply lack the ability to think for yourself and can only repeat yourself (or others) on a obnoxiously obsessive basis all of the time
blah
... and yeah - it is plagiarism since the posts are never referenced to the year or so ago that those posts are copied from - remember - when the evil duke troll it g... and evil duke troll gang attacked me non-stop because you didn't have ken edwards around to cyberbully when he got disgusted and left for a bit - leaving ya'll with the evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger or similar evil duke troll titles well earned and intact
So, 8:37 Tinfoil,
Are you, in fact, the Cry-bully, or the Non-cry-bully?
Cry bully cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh;
He's old enough to know better,
So cry bully cry!
no evil duke troll it g... hatemonger blogmonger - you are the cyberbully
always have been on this blog and always will be from what is glaringly obvious
never stop do you
you are such a cyberbully that you troll yourself by copying and pasting others old comments so that you can cyberbully and troll some more
you are evil and obnoxious
Cry bully cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh;
He's old enough to know better,
So cry bully cry!
know what evil duke troll it g... - that you NEVER stop - ever - because you have been cyberbullying him for many more years than you have me?
On a different note - seems to me that climate change is a natural occurrence with an elliptical path the earth makes around the sun over time - and with the natural occurrence of ice ages and then non ice ages as recorded in ice and rocks that documents those changes as well as changes in the earth's magnetic poles over time.
Guiowen said: "By the way, Kenny, I'm glad to see you finally let your racial hatred show".............................................. Huh?
Kenhyderal said,
"I suppose, though, some of your best friends are Black."
Do you understand now? Please don't "Huh?" me.
But Cry-bully 10:04,
You're the pone who makes Ken sigh.
kenhyderal said...
"Guiowen said: "By the way, Kenny, I'm glad to see you finally let your racial hatred show".............................................. Huh?"
Anyone who expresses admiration for someone like race baiter Al Sharpton manifests racism, no matter who he is.
Me racist? Some of my best friends are white
Hah, hah, hah! Kenny the comic!
kenhyderal said...
"Me racist? Some of my best friends are white"
I say again, no matter who he is, any one who shows admiration for race baiter Al Sharpton manifests racism.
Rev. Sharpton has been praised by President Barack Obama as "the voice of the voiceless and a champion for the downtrodden," and by former President George W. Bush who said that "Al cares just as much as I care about making sure every child learns to read, write, add and subtract."
kenhyderal said...
Rev. Sharpton has been praised by President Barack Obama as 'the voice of the voiceless and a champion for the downtrodden,' and by former President George W. Bush who said that 'Al cares just as much as I care about making sure every child learns to read, write, add and subtract.'"
Al Sharpton is a race baiter and I say again, ANYONE who praises Al Sharpton manifests racism.
And I say slso, ANYONE who will not call out race baiter sharpton for his activities in the Tawana Brawley hoax, in the Crown Heights riot, and in the false rape allegations against the innocent members of the Duke Lacrosse team manifests GROSS racism.
Dr. Harr,
Why would you want AG Cooper to become the governor, yet you have labeled him Super Duper Cooper? Just because he is a democrat? Why can't there be more than one democratic interested person in the future elections to select from? I am disappointed in his inability to investigate this case from the very start.
I have suffered the pain of all the abuse I've witnessed and been made to endure in order just to ask you, a de facto lawyer trying to assist in this case in your own ways, about the malpractice issues from what little I read about this case in the papers that led me here to find out more about that a little over a year ago.
If AG Cooper and the Durham DA and Duke had done their jobs professionally and responsibly, and at the very least, immediately, to insure that all NC citizens are able to depend on a non-corrupt medical examiner and basic non-malpractice, (or at least responsibility professionally and honestly taken for any malpractice), then it would have prevented my witnessing here and on KC's blog what I have about this case and the lacrosse case, as well as the harm caused by the need to possibly have to go back and reexamine 400 plus autopsy reports to insure the credibility and reliability of autopsy reports for all NC citizens, Ms. Mangums' incarceration and victimization, and all the other harm caused by the failure of Duke and the justice system to perform their duties professionally without conflict and unreasonable harm.
The fact that KC's evil duke troll gang made / makes trying to figure out what the heck is going on in order just to get assured of professional and safe medical services due to the malpractice issues feels like a hate crime since it probably is with all the abuse I've witnessed and been made a part of by just being more open minded, community aware and concerned for the welfare of others, posting here and on KC's blog with questions not aligned to their agendas, and whatever else these haters choose to hate.
Anyway, your case is interesting from what I've seen of it in the sharlog. I hope it works.
harr the hypocrite posting anonymously again. Or maybe kenny hissy fit.
Anonymous 6:28:
You demonstrate your ignorance. KC Johnson ended the Durham in Wonderland blog more than one year ago. No one is able to post there.
No, I don't think it's Sidney. I think it's actually the cry-bully.
Once again Ubes regales us with his gross ignorance.
Pray for the health of any patients this supposed doctor mad man gets near.
Tell us "Doctor" Ubes, how many times have you been sued for malpractice?
How many patients did YOU kill off in the operating theatre?
You act like a QUACK. Are you a QUACK like your friend the QUACK historian Robert David Johnson?
Anonymous 7:09:
To what post are your responding?
Ubes,
Enlighten us.
What is it about the 2006
Duke University Men's Lacrosse Team
Gang Rape and Robbery Scandal,
that attracts all the Right-Wing Cranks ?
Ubes,
Are you a Lacrosse 'Framer' ?
Is that like an Obama 'Birther' ?
Please,Kenhyderal, please help me. I'm beingpihpoisdfugpius;oi
Kenhyderal,
Don't be fooled, that's not the real Kilgo.
Anonymous 7:23:
To what post are you responding?
Anonymous 7:23,
Are you the cry-bully, or the non-cry-bully?
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Anonymous 7:29 and 7:31:To what posts are you responding?
Anonymous 7:32:
To what post are you responding?
SPIN UBES SPIN
UBES AND THE LIESOPPER CRANKS ARE UP TO THEIR OLD TRICKS
QUACK
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I'm proud to call UBES my friend.
Ubes said: "Don't be fooled, that's not the real Kilgo"............ And you are not the real Unbekannte
Wow. harr the hypocrite, kenny hissy fit, maybe justice 58, maybe victoria peterson, all posting anonymously, all having major meltdowns over the truth. I am enjoying all of this.
mr. harr, stop the ducking and obfuscation. You maintain crystal was the "victim/accuser" in the duke lacrosse case. Establish that crystal was the victim of anything.
kenny hissy fit, the finding of sperm fraction dna on crystal does not establish that crystal was raped.
kenny hissy fit, establish why corrupt nifong hd psobable cause to prosecute members of the lacrosse team when he had no evidence to link any of them to the alleged crime.
kenny hissy fit, corrupt nifong had custody of the evidence, that dna from unidentified males had been found on crystal's person via the rape kit materials. Why did corrupt nifong conceal that evidence rather than identify the sources?
kenny hissy fit, why did corrupt nifong direct that the improper lineup procedure be conducted?
harr the hypocrite, establish that the prosecution of corrupt nifong on ethics charges was trumped up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
Why would you want AG Cooper to become the governor, yet you have labeled him Super Duper Cooper? Just because he is a democrat? Why can't there be more than one democratic interested person in the future elections to select from? I am disappointed in his inability to investigate this case from the very start.
I have suffered the pain of all the abuse I've witnessed and been made to endure in order just to ask you, a de facto lawyer trying to assist in this case in your own ways, about the malpractice issues from what little I read about this case in the papers that led me here to find out more about that a little over a year ago.
If AG Cooper and the Durham DA and Duke had done their jobs professionally and responsibly, and at the very least, immediately, to insure that all NC citizens are able to depend on a non-corrupt medical examiner and basic non-malpractice, (or at least responsibility professionally and honestly taken for any malpractice), then it would have prevented my witnessing here and on KC's blog what I have about this case and the lacrosse case, as well as the harm caused by the need to possibly have to go back and reexamine 400 plus autopsy reports to insure the credibility and reliability of autopsy reports for all NC citizens, Ms. Mangums' incarceration and victimization, and all the other harm caused by the failure of Duke and the justice system to perform their duties professionally without conflict and unreasonable harm.
The fact that KC's evil duke troll gang made / makes trying to figure out what the heck is going on in order just to get assured of professional and safe medical services due to the malpractice issues feels like a hate crime since it probably is with all the abuse I've witnessed and been made a part of by just being more open minded, community aware and concerned for the welfare of others, posting here and on KC's blog with questions not aligned to their agendas, and whatever else these haters choose to hate.
Anyway, your case is interesting from what I've seen of it in the sharlog. I hope it works.
Thank you for your comments and kind words.
Make no mistake about it, I am very disappointed in Roy Cooper's record when it comes to Mike Nifong and Crystal Mangum. However, I am of the strong belief that anyone else in position of attorney general facing the same issues would have acted the same as Cooper... the Duke Lacrosse case being extremely political. I have no reason to believe that Pat McCrory would have acted differently. McCrory clearly gives access and attention to his cronies and donors... ignoring the needs of ordinary Tar Heelians who he relegates their concerns to his "Department of Constituent Services"... nothing more than a dumping ground for Tar Heelians who don't matter.
I agree with Cooper's stand on most social issues and I believe that he is more concerned with the environment, putting it before big corporations. As far as that goes, putting people, in general, before corporations. McCrory, on the other hand is a smooth talker spewing forth falsehoods to bolster his political record, which is in fact, quite dismal... unless you're a corporation.
So, yes, I support Roy Cooper for Governor in 2016. If Spaulding, the other Democratic candidate, were to challenge the political issues in the criminal system... especially with regards to Mangum, then I would look into supporting him. But I doubt that he would take such a step... one that the NAACP wouldn't even take for fear of the consequences.
Hope this answer suffices.
If you are an independent - can you vote in either of democrat or republican primaries or neither of them? There never seems to be an independent candidate to vote for. So either you choose the lesser of two evils or you have no choice? ???
Nifong Supporter(harr the hypocrite) said...
"Make no mistake about it, I am very disappointed in Roy Cooper's record when it comes to Mike Nifong and Crystal Mangum. However, I am of the strong belief that anyone else in position of attorney general facing the same issues would have acted the same as Cooper..."
mr. harr, you are seriously p---ed off at AG Cooper because he did not proclaim the innocent Lacrosse players guilty. Unlike corrupt nifong, he actually reviewed the evidence in the case and recognized that no crime had happened.
"the Duke Lacrosse case being extremely political."
Indeed it was, and this has been documented. corrupt nifong wanted to be elected to a full term as DA. That would have enhanced his retirement. He was badly behind in the polls, the only pre election poll being the poll showing he had the support of 20% of the entire electorate. When crystal's false allegations surfaced, he turned it into a racil issue, believing that would win him the support of the racist elements in Durham's black electorate. You can claim that his prosecution of the Lacrosse defendants almost cost him the election but you are willfully remaining ignorant of the empirical evidence, that corrupt nifong, after he played up the phony rape case, he got more than double 20% support from both the black and white voters in Durham. You extol your powers of deduction. If you choose to remain ignorant of empirical evidence, you can not deduce anything.
"I have no reason to believe that Pat McCrory would have acted differently. McCrory clearly gives access and attention to his cronies and donors... ignoring the needs of ordinary Tar Heelians who he relegates their concerns to his "Department of Constituent Services"... nothing more than a dumping ground for Tar Heelians who don't matter."
Which says only that you believe McCrory was as corrupt as nifong.
"I agree with Cooper's stand on most social issues and I believe that he is more concerned with the environment, putting it before big corporations. As far as that goes, putting people, in general, before corporations. McCrory, on the other hand is a smooth talker spewing forth falsehoods to bolster his political record, which is in fact, quite dismal... unless you're a corporation."
Which is more from harr the hypocrite. harr the hypocrite has spewedout nothing but falsehoods in his years long quest to get his favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes. The difference is tha harr the hypocriteis incapable of being a smooth talker.
"So, yes, I support Roy Cooper for Governor in 2016. If Spaulding, the other Democratic candidate, were to challenge the political issues in the criminal system... especially with regards to Mangum, then I would look into supporting him."
Which is another iteration of you saying, give my favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes.
"But I doubt that he would take such a step... one that the NAACP wouldn't even take for fear of the consequences.
Hope this answer suffices."
It only suffices to confirm your hypocrisy.
fy evil troll g
just anything to put me down and falsly accuse me right - nothing you say means anything anyway - since you basically sit here and troll anything and everything that anyone says on this blog that is anyway truthful about duke - everything to you is bully and troll and falsly accuse and disparage others
new low for you - or are you always this mean and stupid - oh wait - you are just trying to prove my point that duke is mean - it is a game to them - and they do not care how evil they are - as long as they feel like they 'win'
right evil duke troll? right.
Cry bully cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh;
He's old enough to know better,
So cry bully cry!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"fy evil troll g
just anything to put me down and falsly accuse me right"
You do a pretty good job of putting ypouself down with your incredibly stupid, vicious delusions.
Not g.
my evil duke troll shadow is BACK!
hey
repeat this: blah
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blah
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blah
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Anonymous December 5, 2015 at 4:50 AM
You are sure stressed out and p---ed off at your exposure to the truth.
evil duke troll it g... - can't you find something better to do with your time than constantly cyberbullying on this blog? No one is trolling you but yourself - unless you're not the other insane evil duke troll (which you are). Seriously. I am not posting to this blog nor am I copy and pasting those way old remarks from when you had so much fun cyberbullying me over a year ago. What about cyberbullying me on this blog is it that makes you unable to stop? We all want to know. Why is the blog mainly about you cyberbullying yourself and others to make yourself seem a victim (which you aren't unless it is by your own hand) that you cannot seem to get enough of? Think about it a bit, and get back to us about your inability to stop cyberbullying and trolling yourself and others on this blog. Thanks.
Anonymous December 5, 2015 at 8:39 AM
Boy are you stressed.
Just accept you are deluded and seek help.
December 5, 2015 at 8:52 AM
Truly you are the one who needs 'help'. Don't cyberbully and troll me again ... ever. There are laws against what you are doing ... remember that.
Thanks.
i'm proud to call g my friend
well since you are ALSO the alias tinfoil hat hatemonger evil duke troll it g..., and you have also mused before how you thought you were others which was really weird but ok, you are STILL trolling yourself in essense, so ... like has been said in essense before:
we get it evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hate monger ... you are a crazy making, anti-anythingNotDuke, Ms. Mangum, Dr. Harr, Mr. Nifong and anyone who supports them in any way hating, hate-crime committing ... troll (to be nice)
blah
You post anonymously - even if what people were doing violates the law (it doesn't) you couldn't prosecute.
You are as dumb as the lying abusers Sid and Kenny.
Oh, Cry-bully is at it again.
Tell me, 8:55, are you Cry-bully Tinfoil, or the Cry-bully who isn't Tinfoil?
i'm proud to call g my friend
Dr. Harr,
What are your thoughts about the continuous cyberbullying that occurs on your blog?
harr the hypocrite is the biggest cyberbully on this blog, considering his years long crusade to convince the public that the innocent members of the Duke Lacrosse team raped false accuser crystal mangum.
stop bullying me evil duke troll and hate criminal
fy evil duke troll ubes
just anything to put me down and falsly accuse me right - nothing you say means anything anyway - since you basically sit here and troll anything and everything that anyone says on this blog that is anyway truthful about duke - everything to you is bully and troll and falsly accuse and disparage others
new low for you - or are you always this mean and stupid - oh wait - you are just trying to prove my point that duke is mean - it is a game to them - and they do not care how evil they are - as long as they feel like they 'win'
right evil duke troll? right.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you are an independent - can you vote in either of democrat or republican primaries or neither of them? There never seems to be an independent candidate to vote for. So either you choose the lesser of two evils or you have no choice? ???
I am a liberal socialist. I register as a Democrat, therefore. Practically under no circumstance can I conceive of myself voting or supporting a Republican. Naturally, for the Presidential Nomination I am a Sanders man because I feel the Bern.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
What are your thoughts about the continuous cyberbullying that occurs on your blog?
To be honest, I haven't really given it much thought. Since the majority of commenters post as anonymous, I don't see how anyone can take things that personal or serious. Me, on the other hand, I do receive a few personal attacks and I tend to let it roll like water off a duck's back. The really nasty comments, I believe, reflect far more adversely on the commenter much more than the commentee.
Right on Sidney Harr
There is talk about WWIII starting over Syria in some of the news. What are Mr. Sander's foreign policy thoughts about Syria and ISIS that you are aware of?
Nifong Supporter said...
"I do receive a few personal attacks and I tend to let it roll like water off a duck's back."
So why do you post anonymous rants whenever someone calls you out for your hypocrisy and your deluded megalomania?
Cry-bully 12:58 p.m.,
Are you the same Cry-bully as the one who posted at 6:42 p.m. yesterday?
your an evil sheathead duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger g...
YOU are the one who is the hatemonger blogmonger ... get real
you troll and annoy just to blame others for your own shortcomings and evilness cuz ... well ... that's what duke does ... and that's you ... right? no one is fooled by your evil obnoxious trolling ... except you perhaps?
Tinfoil is on a roll today. Go, Tinfoil, go!!!
Cry bully cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh;
He's old enough to know better,
So cry bully cry!
G... you are being trolled by someone (not me) copy and pasting and editing for their own purposes old posts from when you wouldn't stop cyberbullying way back when you did the same thing (plagiarized copy and pasting to cyberbully yourself and others non-stop). Stop doing it - then you can see it isn't me and perhaps it isn't you.
What do you think about the possibility of WWIII over Syria and such things?
To the person doing the copy and pasting and editing to suit your cyberbully and trolling ways ... stop - you are upsetting g...
thanks
This is what I think about it (WWIII starting from Syria and such things) from an uneducated view (meaning I haven't really followed the Syria issues too much to date in the news and I'm not a bible scholar):
There are prophecies about WWIII in the bible about a leader who professes peace only to cause a major WW from my vague understanding of the matter. There was another writing that mentioned that and about a white leader who tried to stop it from happening - (in this scenario the last white leader who ran against President Obama since in that book the other leader was noted as dark). What I notice though is that a lot of the middle east events seem to follow these things written in prophecy. So what I'm wondering and thinking is that it is a bit like what you see on this blog with the evil duke trolls playing let's troll and cyberbully ourselves at the expense of innocent others so that we can pretend to have reason to cyberbully and troll others some more. It is like they are trying to make the prophecies happen because it suits their warmongering ways for the benefit of only a few who think they will profit from the wars. I mean - the blueprint is already written with millions or more aware of it and 'they' are simply making it happen on purpose because they can - to make profit - not because that is what is naturally occurring.
Those are my thoughts on the matter at this time.
Anonymous said...
There is talk about WWIII starting over Syria in some of the news. What are Mr. Sander's foreign policy thoughts about Syria and ISIS that you are aware of?
I don't know what Mr. Sanders' foreign policy looks like with regards to Syria or ISIS, but then again, I don't know what Mr. Trump's are either. The only thing Trump says is that he's going to be so tough on ISIS and terrorism, but he is short on specifics... my understanding being that he intends to deport all Middle Easterners and prevent their immigration here, and arming the public with firearms in order to confront armed terrorists should the need arise... sorta like in the Wild West days.
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Actually, just an update on my sharlog progress. I am hoping to complete narration today and edit the narration to a state ready for laying in the soundtrack. The introduction to Part One has been completed on the Flash program.
Notice: Less than two week before the next publication of the NC Supreme Court opinions.
As you were.
Sid - you are aware that the best case for Crystal with the Supreme Court date in 2 weeks is they grant the PDR and allow the appeal to proceed, correct? There will be no opinion or any other decision in the case. If they grant the PDR, then there is the whole proces to go through of briefs and the rest - so probably another year. I hope she knows there is zero chance they will overturn her conviction in 2 weeks - or are you lying to her and telling her they might?
All your questions have been answered by Dr. Harr before. He seems very busy on other more important things right now, so truly, why do you keep trolling him over and over and over again except to annoy him and everyone else (except your fellow evil duke troll gang who cheers your harrassment on perhaps).
Dr. Harr, if I may give you just a bit of advice which I'm sure you already know, ignore the troll. The troll(s) do not deserve your time while you have more important things to think about.
Anyway, the trolls are as annoying as the gov. pushing the 10 billion dollar coal ash cleanup on consumers, (wonder why they didn't store the ash the right way to begin with ya know and WHY does it cost 10 Billion), while its revealed that duke energy will be one of the main consumers of natural gas, and a new pipeline and immediate drilling on state owned lands is on the push table. Ya know, that's so fracked up, makes a person want to knock on the door at the gov. mansion and ask the man why, ya know, why are ya'll so greedy and why are so many public school teachers resigning, and do you give a damn about anything but duke, but, hey, he might not like that one would assume.
anyway ... that was just in the news ...
so ... yeah the troll(s) are as annoying as that on purpose, and they think it's a.o.k. to do what they do cuz it's duke just like the gov.
Duke wants people to be naive about them obviously as shown by the coverup in this case. It is disturbing to watch them in action that is a fact that unfortunately more and more will finally realize, hopefully before it is too late. One can only hope, but mother nature is always so much more powerful and unpredictable, ya just never know what might happen. Course then duke will charge the consumers 20 billion to clean up their destruction, probably ...
How to stop them is the 64 billion dollar question.
You have important work to do with what your doing on these current cases.
Hey idiot - you know Duke University and Duke Energy have absolutely no relationship to each other right? Next you will be trying to say they can play Jazz like Duke Ellington.
No, but I have heard in the news that they can drink them some whiskey - as long as ya don't call the drink Duke.
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