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Do you ever entertain the possibility the Mr. Nifong worked with Duke and the Democratic Party and media outlets to use and abuse Ms. Mangum in order to get the 'black vote' motivated to vote for the presidential election? If you look back in history, that is exactly what happened ... so do you still ignore that historical outcome? Mr. Nifong had already promised not to run for DA when the then presiding democratic governor choose him to fill in as DA in Durham from my understanding of the 'news', so it could appear that this event was set in motion and planning long before it occurred. With Duke's extensive knowledge of mental illness and mind/brain control and manipulation - through the media and otherwise, there exists also the possibility of Duke manipulating the entire situation that has yet to be explored or considered?
Nifong Supporter said...
"As a prosecutor, Nifong had integrity and did not overcharge"
Huh???!!!
From the outset, corrupt nifong had no evidence that crystal was raped. Yet he had indicted three innocent men, charged them with first degree rape, sexual assault, kidnapping, refused to look at alibi evidence, manufactured evidence against them via the improper lineup he ordered, and then concealed exculpatory evidence from them. And you say he did not indulge in over charging defendants!!!
Come on, harr the hypocrite, what evidence was there that Crystal told the truth about being raped?
Claiming the case files were sealed is nothing but a dodge and an admission thatyou have no evidence that crystal told the truth, which is an admission on your part that you are a guilt presuming racist.
"It is of benefit for the guilty to accept a plea deal, not the innocent." -- Harrism
NOT if the innocent know the system is stacked against them and that they will stay imprisoned even though innocent because there is no justice in an unjust system, or if they don't understand the system and what is being done to them to begin with.
Assuming she was ever offered the plea deal - I bet you've never independently confirmed that, just once again implicated dozens more people in your conspiracy against her.
Are you really this pathetic and delusional, or do you realize this blog all just a big joke and your way of abusing Crystal?
Sidney said,
"In both the Daye and Walker instances she claims that she was defending herself from being brutalized in a domestic situation, and I believe her."
Yes, no doubt burning poor Milton's clothes was an excellent method of self-defense.
Sidney said,
"the Roman Empire was not built in one day"
Interesting analogy, Sidney. From the assassination of Julius Caesar in 44 to the proclamation of his nephew as Augustus in 27 was a period of 17 years. Does this mean you expect to get Crystal out in 2028?
Nifong Supporter said...
"{crystal'e] refusal to accept the plea deal shows her strong conviction that she was totally innocent.
'It is of benefit for the guilty to accept a plea deal, not the innocent.' -- Harrism"
A graphic example of why I refer to mr. harr as harr the hypocrite.
I believe this was documented on the appropriately named Liestoppers. The standard way of dealing with an alleged rape by the DurhamDA's office under the nifong regime was the plea deal. Michael Jermaine Burch raped a Duke Coed. He was released on bail. While free on bail he committed a second rape. He was allowed to plead to lesser charges.
The defendants in the Duke rape hoax(it was not the Duke Rape case since there was no rape) maintained their innocence from the outset. They did not try to negotiate for a plea deal. If harr the hypocrite believed in this harrism, he would admit this indicated Lacrosse defendants were innocent. Instead, each and every time he refers to crystal as the "victim/accuser" in the "Duke Rape Case", he is calling the Lacrosse defendants guilty.
I say again, he is not angry with Attorney General Roy Cooper because AG Cooper proclaimed the Lacrosse defendants innocent. AG Cooper proclaimed nothing. He said that his office investigated the alleged crime and found no evidence of a crime and therefore believed those accused of the crime were innocent.
harr the hypocrite is p---ed off because AG Cooper did not proclaim the defendants guilty.
December 15, 2015 at 8:51 AM
Why didn't he send the case back to the court to be dismissed then?
Anonymous 9:56am asks: Why didn't he send the case back to the court to be dismissed then?
He did.
The special prosecutors' filing asked the court to dismiss charges because the defendants were innocent. The court accepted the filing and dismissed charges.
Anonymous said...
"Why didn't he send the case back to the court to be dismissed then?"
The case never went to court. Ergo it could not have been referred back to court.
How about you explain why the case should have gone to court.
For Anonymous December 15, 2015 at 9:56 AM:
Walt in Durham left a comment on this thread. As there more than 1000 comments i have not been able to trace it. The comment was in reply to a comment by kenhyderal, to whom I refer as kenny hissy fit. kenny said that da nifong prosecuted the three lacrosse payers because he believed he had evidence to proceed.
Walt pointed out that nifong did not have evidence to proceed against the three people he tried to prosecute. crystal's medical exam did not reveal any of the kind of trauma one would expect from the kind of rape crystal alleged. The dna recovered from crystal's person via the rape kit did not match the dna of any of the three men charged. The only thing nifong had was the photo lineup in which crystal supposedly identified the three men as her assailants. The photo lineup was improper. It had no fillers, only suspects. It was conducted by a police officer who was involved in the case. Even so, the identifications were not reliable. Two of the three men could prove with 100% certainty they had not been present at the alleged crime scene at the time the alleged crime had allegedly happened. crystal said the third assailant had a mustache. The man who was indicted did not have a mustache and all no picture ever showed him with a mustache. So basically, even before corrupt nifong concealed exculpatory evidence from the defedants. he had NO evidence against him.
So the challenge, again, is why should the case have gone to court in the first place?
Anonymous at 10:42 wrote: "Anonymous 9:56am asks: Why didn't he send the case back to the court to be dismissed then?
He did.
The special prosecutors' filing asked the court to dismiss charges because the defendants were innocent. The court accepted the filing and dismissed charges."
Ding-Ding-Ding, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!
Exactly correct, Anon at 10:42. Exactly correct.
Walt-in-Durham
Duke sucks ... there is no way in hell anyone of ya'll should keep arguing about this and that in the current case when the medical records show clearly that this current case is as much of a scam as the lacrosse case. You are talking about a major medical system that many people have to trust with their lives or the lives of their family and an in-justice system that even ya'll put down with every comment you make. What bs as usual.
Actually, I don't particularly like Duke. I especially don't like Brod Dickhead. However, all your postings are making me like it a bit.
yeah well g... like em all ya want cuz it will make it that much easier to do to you what they did to Ms. Mangum and Mr. Daye, NC, and the public in general ... there is nothing stopping them
Good to see you back, Cry-Bully!
Cry bully cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh;
He's old enough to know better,
So cry bully cry!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nifong Supporter said...
"{crystal'e] refusal to accept the plea deal shows her strong conviction that she was totally innocent.
'It is of benefit for the guilty to accept a plea deal, not the innocent.' -- Harrism"
A graphic example of why I refer to mr. harr as harr the hypocrite.
I believe this was documented on the appropriately named Liestoppers. The standard way of dealing with an alleged rape by the DurhamDA's office under the nifong regime was the plea deal. Michael Jermaine Burch raped a Duke Coed. He was released on bail. While free on bail he committed a second rape. He was allowed to plead to lesser charges.
The defendants in the Duke rape hoax(it was not the Duke Rape case since there was no rape) maintained their innocence from the outset. They did not try to negotiate for a plea deal. If harr the hypocrite believed in this harrism, he would admit this indicated Lacrosse defendants were innocent. Instead, each and every time he refers to crystal as the "victim/accuser" in the "Duke Rape Case", he is calling the Lacrosse defendants guilty.
I say again, he is not angry with Attorney General Roy Cooper because AG Cooper proclaimed the Lacrosse defendants innocent. AG Cooper proclaimed nothing. He said that his office investigated the alleged crime and found no evidence of a crime and therefore believed those accused of the crime were innocent.
harr the hypocrite is p---ed off because AG Cooper did not proclaim the defendants guilty.
Thank you for making my point! My point being that AG Cooper had no more right or authority to proclaim the Duke Lacrosse defendant guilty as he did to proclaim them innocent. That right belongs to a judge, or jury in lieu of a judge. The media-types seized upon the Cooper promulgation as carrying legal weight and reported that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent or declared innocent. This is not the case. The only thing an attorney general can do is drop the criminal charge.
Think about it. If the attorney general could proclaim innocence or guilt, then there would be no need for a judge, jury, or trial.
Let me know if you have been adequately elucidated.
guiowen said...
Sidney said,
"the Roman Empire was not built in one day"
Interesting analogy, Sidney. From the assassination of Julius Caesar in 44 to the proclamation of his nephew as Augustus in 27 was a period of 17 years. Does this mean you expect to get Crystal out in 2028?
gui, mon ami,
Hah! A snazzy bit of arithmetic... but, no. I'll hopefully be able to give you a definitive date for her release by this Friday afternoon... the 18th.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Assuming she was ever offered the plea deal - I bet you've never independently confirmed that, just once again implicated dozens more people in your conspiracy against her.
Are you really this pathetic and delusional, or do you realize this blog all just a big joke and your way of abusing Crystal?
No, actually you are wrong. I was not at Crystal's trial, but I did speak to someone who was, and she confirmed that a plea offer was made to Crystal by the State. Mangum told me that the prosecution offer was first proposed to her by Daniel Meier in a phone call the evening before the plea deal was actually made... after a jury was selected and before opening statements.
Mangum also told me that she discussed the plea deal offer with a bail bondsman who recommended that she accept it; when Mangum said she didn't want to because she was innocent the bondsman stated that "a lot of innocent people are in jail."
Besides, where would I get the specifics of the plea offer? Unlike Dr. Nichols, I am not into fabrication.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"It is of benefit for the guilty to accept a plea deal, not the innocent." -- Harrism
NOT if the innocent know the system is stacked against them and that they will stay imprisoned even though innocent because there is no justice in an unjust system, or if they don't understand the system and what is being done to them to begin with.
What you are saying is absolutely true, and under most conceivable conditions it would have been advisable for Mangum to seriously consider the offer. However, because I am actively advocating for her and because the case against her is ridiculously weak, it was in her best interests to refuse the plea offer.
Also, keep in mind, that the plea deal was not all that great. Even though under terms of the deal she would be immediately released, she would be on probation for ten years... plenty of time for the diabolical State to trump up a probation violation that would send her back to prison to serve her full sentence.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Thank you for making my point! My point being that AG Cooper had no more right or authority to proclaim the Duke Lacrosse defendant guilty as he did to proclaim them innocent."
You have made no point. You have established again that you are harr the hypocrite. AG Cooper proclaimed nothing. He and his office investigated(something corrupt nifong never did, something you never did), found no evidence, no witnesses to establish the crime ever happened. What he actually said was, "We believe these men are innocent." Your hypocrisy is, you make proclamations of the guilt of the three Lacrosse players who were charged with the crime. You do that each and every time you refer to crystal as the "victim/accuser" in the Duke Rape hoax(it was not the Duke Rape Case because no rape occurred). You believe your proclamations establish their guilt. You believe your proclamations have legal weight.
"That right belongs to a judge, or jury in lieu of a judge."
There you are wrong, not surprising since your career as a legal advocate adds up to filing and losing a string of frivolous non meritorious lawsuits. Before taking a case to trial a prosecutor has to establish probable cause that a crime happened, and that those charged with the crime had perpetrated the crime. If the prosecutor fails to do that, the case is dismissed before ever going to trial. If a crime had happened, and again crystal's allegation was not credible, corrupt nifong had no probable cause to charge the three men he did charge. Crystal may have identified the three men with certainty but not at all with reliability, even though the lineup procedure was rigged by corrupt nifong to yield identifications. And the only dna evidence nifong had, the male dna recovered from crystal's person via the rape kit, did not match the dna of any of the men whom corrupt nifong had charged with the crime, and corrupt nifong was aware of that fact when he had the three men indicted. Corrupt nifong had no probable cause to even charge the three men, let alone take them to trial.
"The media-types seized upon the Cooper promulgation as carrying legal weight and reported that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent or declared innocent. This is not the case. The only thing an attorney general can do is drop the criminal charge."
What made the defendants innocent was the fact that no crime had occurred. They were innocent as a matter of fact, not as a matter of proclamation or trial verdict.
"Think about it. If the attorney general could proclaim innocence or guilt, then there would be no need for a judge, jury, or trial."
In this case there was no need for a judge, jury, or trial. Corrupt nifong had no legal justification for charging them with a crime let alone taking them to trial.
"Let me know if you have been adequately elucidated."
Presumes facts not in evidence, that you have been the recipient of elucidation about the case, that you are capable of rendering elucidation. Your willful ignorance about this case is not elucidation.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Unlike Dr. Nichols, I am not into fabrication."
Yes you are.
You fabricate each and every time you call crystal the "victim/accuser" in "Duke Rape Case".
You fabricate each and every time you claim corrupt nifong was the victim of a carpetbagger jihad.
You fabricated when you claimed corrupt nifong did not withhold evidence from the Duke Rape hoax defendants.
You fabricated when you said that evidence was not exculpatory.
And you fabricated when you said you are not into fabrication.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Anonymous said...
'It is of benefit for the guilty to accept a plea deal, not the innocent." -- Harrism
NOT if the innocent know the system is stacked against them and that they will stay imprisoned even though innocent because there is no justice in an unjust system, or if they don't understand the system and what is being done to them to begin with.'
What you are saying is absolutely true, and under most conceivable conditions it would have been advisable for Mangum to seriously consider the offer. However, because I am actively advocating for her and because the case against her is ridiculously weak, it was in her best interests to refuse the plea offer."
Which is again a manifestation of harr the hypocrite.
I say again: the Lacrosse players did not seek any plea deal;from the outset they maintained their innocence.
If harr the hypocrite really believed in his harrism, he would acknowledge that this was an indication that the wrongfully charged Lacrosse players were innocent. Instead, he repeatedly proclaims them guilty. And he believes his proclamations carry legal weight, that his proclamations establish their guilt.
When challenged to show evidence of their guilt, he fabricates, claiming the evidence is sealed. That is just a lame attempt by harr the hypocritical fabricator to avoid admitting he can not provide any evidence of theirguilt.
Why would you expect to find evidence of any crime given the manner in which any evidence that indicated a crime would be immediately covered up, lied about, gotten rid of, or denied - given that it was duke and its controlled media and in-justice system who manipulated the entire event in order to provoke the black populace to vote for Obama who then provided duke with a health insurance system that perverts healthcare into a system that further drains the economy in favor of making the pharma and co. and private health systems such as duke richer as they continue to insure the poverty and death of the nations citizens and democracy itself?
Shockingly the North Carolina Supreme Court denied Sid's (well Crystal's) PDR.
Sid will start railing against them now.
hank you for making my point! My point being that AG Cooper had no more right or authority to proclaim the Duke Lacrosse defendant guilty as he did to proclaim them innocent. That right belongs to a judge, or jury in lieu of a judge. The media-types seized upon the Cooper promulgation as carrying legal weight and reported that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent or declared innocent. This is not the case. The only thing an attorney general can do is drop the criminal charge.
Think about it. If the attorney general could proclaim innocence or guilt, then there would be no need for a judge, jury, or trial.
Let me know if you have been adequately elucidated.
Judges and Juries do not proclaim anyone "innocent" they proclaim them Not Guilty - which simply means the State failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.
What is happening Friday, or by Friday Sid? You claim to have more information on a release date. You know, you can go to the Department of Corrections website and see her release date: It's 02/27/2026 (it will move a little earlier).
http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/opi/viewoffender.do?method=view&offenderID=0801264&searchLastName=mangum&searchFirstName=crystal&listurl=pagelistoffendersearchresults&listpage=1
WWIII is next, and according to ya'll agent provocateurs, in theory, Duke will be to blame for it.
Sid ... what is your next step now that the N.C. Supreme Court has denied the PDR?
Sid was roshamboed by Lady Justice today. He's going to need some time to catch his breath before he can answer your questions.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Wanna bet Sid makes some conspiracy out of no Opinion on this matter, or real response to his PDR, other than the denial? Even though he's been told that's exactly how they do it at this stage? He doesn't listen. He will bring up Felony Murder again as well.
Sid is nothing if not predictable in his delusions and bullshit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wanna bet Sid makes some conspiracy out of no Opinion on this matter, or real response to his PDR, other than the denial? Even though he's been told that's exactly how they do it at this stage? He doesn't listen. He will bring up Felony Murder again as well.
Sid is nothing if not predictable in his delusions and bullshit.
I must admit that I am extremely disappointed in the NC Supreme Court's decision.
It would be nice to have a reason as to why the Petition was denied. Certainly that's not an unreasonable expectation. I'm not surprised that no explanation was given because the decision was itself unreasonable.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid ... what is your next step now that the N.C. Supreme Court has denied the PDR?
Work harder.
Nifong Supporter said...
"It would be nice to have a reason as to why the Petition was denied. Certainly that's not an unreasonable expectation."
Maybe you should provide a reason why it should not have been denied.
Your belief that your favorite murderess/false accuser should get a pass for her crimes is not such a reason.
Perhaps stop working harder, and start working smarter - and actually learn the law and know what you are talking about instead of simply wasting your time.
It was denied because it didn't comply with the law - everyone with even a basic legal understanding told you this would happen.
But, they never give reasons - this case is no different than any of the others they decide like this.
Sidney,
Did you actually expect them to approve your PDR?
guiowen said...
Sidney,
Did you actually expect them to approve your PDR?
gui, mon ami, let's put it this way... I may not have truly expected them to do the right thing, but I hoped they would. Considering problems with the trial and the weak appeal, I had my finger's crossed that they would at least have the case reviewed... after all, what would be the downside of a review? Fourteen years of a mother's life is at stake.
Nifong Supporter said...
"gui, mon ami, let's put it this way... I may not have truly expected them to do the right thing, but I hoped they would. Considering problems with the trial and the weak appeal, I had my finger's crossed that they would at least have the case reviewed... after all, what would be the downside of a review? Fourteen years of a mother's life is at stake."
Another iteration of harr the fabricating hypocrite trying to get his favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes, nothing more.
Sid wrote: " I may not have truly expected them to do the right thing, but I hoped they would. Considering problems with the trial and the weak appeal, I had my finger's crossed that they would at least have the case reviewed... after all, what would be the downside of a review? Fourteen years of a mother's life is at stake."
If you had really hoped they would grant a PDR, you would have followed the information shared with you on this very blog and written a petition that complied with the law and gave the Supreme Court a reason to hear her appeal. At the very least you would have encouraged Crystal to let her lawyer's petition go forward. Instead, you did the opposite. You cannot now claim you hoped for a different outcome when you gave them every reason to deny Crystal's petition. Shame on you Sid. That's on you and you alone.
Walt-in-Durham
Nifong Supporter said...
"Fourteen years of a mother's life is at stake."
Said mother is a convicted criminal. She was a convicted criminal before she falsely accused the Three innocent members of the Lacrosse team of raping her.
Dr. Harr,
Ms. Mangum needs to get some legal advice on what to do next. You cannot hope to help her with adequate legal advice. That much is clear.
correction: You cannot hope to help her withOUT adequate legal advice. Do you understand the system Yet?
She has had adequate legal advice - Sid turns her against all of them by convincing her they are not looking out for her best interest, and want to betray her. He uses false legal arguments to try and convince her.
He claims the lawyers should have filed a pre-trial motion to dismiss the Larceny of Chose in Action - there is no mechanism, and so they didn't. He said that was proof they wanted her convicted - especially because of the falsehood of Felony Murder.
He used Felony Murder to try and scare her - and explain that the attorneys were trying to set her up, because they weren't telling her to be worried about it.
He said they were setting her up by not using Daye's prior record.
Crystal has had good legal advice - unfortunately Sid can't have that - he needs to abuse and isolate Crystal, so he turns her against everyone who is trying to help her.
If she were offered a plea deal as Sid claims, she should have seriously considered it. Kenny claims she was innocent - but remember, self-defense was tried to the jury, Sid and Kenny acknowledge that - the Jury rejected it - that means that no matter what Duke did, or did not, do to Daye, Crystal was guilty of a felony.
Sid will just add the Supreme Court to the list of conspirators and go from there.
He will also continue to manipulate and emotionally abuse Crystal and continue to isolate her from those who could have helped.
Sid needs to get involved in another scandal and be forced to leave the area like what happened in California. You should ask him what happened that led to his departure ... pretty scandalous, but he won't talk about it, and will profess ignorance, I'm sure.
Dr. Harr,
Is there any word back from the State Bar on Ms. Mangum's complaints? Did she file a second complaint about the Appeal Attorney's actions in the filing of the PDR and communications (or lack of communication) and lack of adequate legal representation?
Where exactly did the Appeal Judges get the wording that Ms. Mangum stabbed Mr. Daye to death? Doesn't the public appeal decision say that ... that she stabbed him to death?
December 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM
If she had adequate legal advice, this case would have been resolved with the first lawyer, the second, third, ... or the appeal attorney since clearly Ms. Mangum did NOT stab Mr. Daye to death, and more importantly, NO ONE can get adequate medical services from Duke anymore or adequate legal representation when they find themselves victimized by Duke. I know that doesn't matter to you in the least, but there are millions of people it does matter to, including Ms. Mangum.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
December 17, 2015 at 10:23 AM
your trolling convinces ALL that the lacrosse party did brutalize Ms. Mangum btw
just so ya know
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
Dr. Harr,
You seriously need to understand the system you are dealing with, otherwise you are simply being a Duke operative ... even if unintentionally so. You have seriously harmed millions with your nonunderstanding at this point in time.
Millions? No, Sid has only hurt 1 person - that's Crystal, and that's been his goal all along. He fits the profile of an abuser to an absolute T.
Did Sid ever post Mangum's complaint to the State Bar? I can't seem to track it down.
December 17, 2015 at 11:32 AM
You obviously don't understand the system or duke either then.
Dr. Harr,
Why do you continue to write to the News and Observer when they are the most Duke oriented local newspaper?
Anonymous 11:32,
I don't think Sidney really wants to hurt Crystal. He's probably very happy about the fact that he can visit (a few hours each week) some reasonably attractive woman thirty years his junior. He wants her to appreciate his company, and he can do this best by explaining all that he is doing to help her, and how everyone else is under Rae Evans' control. The fact that his indeed is complicating Crystal's life probably doesn't enter his mind. The fact that he could probably help her (really help her) by getting her to prepare for a different sort of life doesn't enter his mind.
It's a pity.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
Dr. Harr:
Why are you not working with kenhyderal to overturn Crystal's conviction?
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both trying to obscure that they post anonymously.
Check out http://law.justia.com/cases/north-carolina/court-of-appeals/2015/14-909.html
This is the decision of the North Crolina
appeals Court to crystal's appeal for a new trial.
The court reviewed the police reports, both for the Reginald Daye murder and for the Milton Walker incident.
These document that crystal had violent tendencies, that in neither case did she act in self defense, and the arguments of harr the fabricating hypocrite are but his desire that crystal the false accuser/murderess get a pass for her crimes.
The Milton Walker case was an example of how harr the fabricating hypocrite does indulge in fabrication. crystal set fire to Milton Walker's clothes. harr the fabricating hypocrite claimed the police set the fire in order to frame crystal for arson.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nifong Supporter said...
"Fourteen years of a mother's life is at stake."
Said mother is a convicted criminal. She was a convicted criminal before she falsely accused the Three innocent members of the Lacrosse team of raping her.
Many innocent people have been convicted for crimes they did not commit. Mangum is another one... only in her case no crimes were committed. I plan on rectifying that!
Also, there is no proof that Mangum's accusations of being sexually abused are untrue, and there is no proof that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent. I'm not saying they are innocent or guilty; only that no proof exists. As you know, the investigation on the Duke Lacrosse case was closed by the Attorney General's Office... unlike the j4n investigation which is open, objective, and transparent.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
Ms. Mangum needs to get some legal advice on what to do next. You cannot hope to help her with adequate legal advice. That much is clear.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
correction: You cannot hope to help her withOUT adequate legal advice. Do you understand the system Yet?
Mangum has had legal advice from the git-go, which she followed, and look where it got her... a conviction on second degree murder and an 18 year maximum sentence.
I understand the legal system in North Carolina is cruel, corrupt, and racist. If it were otherwise, Crystal would have never been charged or convicted from incidents arising from the April 3, 2011 incident.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
Is there any word back from the State Bar on Ms. Mangum's complaints? Did she file a second complaint about the Appeal Attorney's actions in the filing of the PDR and communications (or lack of communication) and lack of adequate legal representation?
Where exactly did the Appeal Judges get the wording that Ms. Mangum stabbed Mr. Daye to death? Doesn't the public appeal decision say that ... that she stabbed him to death?
I know that the NC State Bar reviewed Mangum's complaint on Daniel Meier and declined to take any action. With regards to her complaint filed against Ann Petersen, the last I know is that she received a letter from the State Bar stating that it was still in the process of evaluating the complaint against Petersen. So, I do not believe a decision has been reached on that complaint.
Sid wrote: "Many innocent people have been convicted for crimes they did not commit. Mangum is another one... only in her case no crimes were committed. I plan on rectifying that!"
No, she is not innocent. The evidence is overwhelming that she is guilty. Further, if you had a realistic plan, you would have taken the information provided here, free of charge to you and her, and used that to build a realistic defense. One such as that built by Woody Van, Chris Shella, Scott Holmes, Daniel Meyer and Ann Peterson. Instead, you ignored the information offered you and encouraged Crystal to ignore her competent attorneys. She would still have been convicted, but of a much lesser charge and she would be out by now.
"Also, there is no proof that Mangum's accusations of being sexually abused are untrue, and there is no proof that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent."
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ [Manual buzzer] Actually that evidence of innocence does exist. You simply refuse to acknowledge it. That's probably emblematic of why you stopped practicing medicine. You ignore evidence that does not fit your pre-conceived notions.
Walt-in-Durham
guiowen said...
Anonymous 11:32,
I don't think Sidney really wants to hurt Crystal. He's probably very happy about the fact that he can visit (a few hours each week) some reasonably attractive woman thirty years his junior. He wants her to appreciate his company, and he can do this best by explaining guall that he is doing to help her, and how everyone else is under Rae Evans' control. The fact that his indeed is complicating Crystal's life probably doesn't enter his mind. The fact that he could probably help her (really help her) by getting her to prepare for a different sort of life doesn't enter his mind.
It's a pity.
gui, mon ami,
Hah! Interesting theory. I think you have creative talent to be writer for a soap opera... coming up with fantastic plots.
The truth is that Crystal does not need to be prepared for a lengthy imprisonment because my efforts will shortly result in her release and exoneration.
When I take on a challenge, I do not throw in the towel. I fight until victory is mine.
Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Many innocent people have been convicted for crimes they did not commit. Mangum is another one... only in her case no crimes were committed. I plan on rectifying that!"
No, she is not innocent. The evidence is overwhelming that she is guilty. Further, if you had a realistic plan, you would have taken the information provided here, free of charge to you and her, and used that to build a realistic defense. One such as that built by Woody Van, Chris Shella, Scott Holmes, Daniel Meyer and Ann Peterson. Instead, you ignored the information offered you and encouraged Crystal to ignore her competent attorneys. She would still have been convicted, but of a much lesser charge and she would be out by now.
"Also, there is no proof that Mangum's accusations of being sexually abused are untrue, and there is no proof that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent."
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ [Manual buzzer] Actually that evidence of innocence does exist. You simply refuse to acknowledge it. That's probably emblematic of why you stopped practicing medicine. You ignore evidence that does not fit your pre-conceived notions.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt, a defense strategy that completely omits Daye's cause of death, perjured testimony by the medical examiner and an autopsy report that is totally fraudulent is clearly a losing one... and that loser strategy is what Mangum's attorney (Shella, Vann, Holmes, Meier, and Petersen) have been advocating.
Besides, the case against Mangum was so weak that the State offered her a plea deal before opening arguments in which it offered her a sentence of time-served and ten years probation in exchange for a guilty plea to voluntary manslaughter and both charges of Larceny of Chose in Action. Wisely, she turned it down.
Dr. Harr,
Where exactly did the Appeal Judges get the wording that Ms. Mangum stabbed Mr. Daye to death? Doesn't the public appeal decision say that ... that she stabbed him to death?
Was that from a news release and the appeals attorney?
???
Dr. Harr,
Ms. Mangum may have followed her professional legal advice, but you did not, and you influenced her actions to a large degree. So, truly, why do you think you can secure her release with more non-professional legal actions? ???
Nifong Supporter said...
"Many innocent people have been convicted for crimes they did not commit. Mangum is another one..."
Crystal is not another one
"only in her case no crimes were committed. I plan on rectifying that!"
Another iteration of, I am trying to get my favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes.
"Also, there is no proof that Mangum's accusations of being sexually abused are untrue,"
Again you get it wrong. There is no proof she was.
"and there is no proof that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent."
Yes there is, the actual proof being that there is no evidence the alleged rape ever took place. You admit there is no proof, via your repetition of, their is no proof it did not happen. Youu can not provide any evidence that it did happen.
"I'm not saying they are innocent or guilty;"
Each and every time you refer to crystal as the "victim/accuser, you proclaim the Lacrosse players AREguilty. That you are too stupid and biased to comprehend that does not mean you have no opinion as to guilt or innocence.
"only that no proof exists."
Again you are too willfully ignorant to comprehend that, in a criminal case, te prosecution has to prove the crime happened, No proof exists that a crime happened. You must be really dense with your repeated emphasis on te fallacy,that no proof of innocence.
As you know, the investigation on the Duke Lacrosse case was closed by the Attorney General's Office..."
Another iteration of harr the hypocritical fabricator indulging in fabrication.
"unlike the j4n investigation which is open, objective, and transparent."
Yet another iteration of harr the hypocritical fabricator indulging in fabrication.
Dr. Harr,
HOW do you expect Ms. Mangum to present a legal defense against the in-adequate legal defense council she received, and the unfair and unequal legal protection she was afforded, and the corrupt and duke biased in-justice system IF she has no adequate legal defense council? Seriously, explain yourself. Thanks.
Sid ... you still planning a big announcement today about Crystal's imminent release? I assume this was completely independent of the N.C. Supreme Court's actions because you've been told all along that the best case for Crystal would be that they'd allow the appeal to go forward, which would be at least another year before a decision.
Or, did you ignore all of that and continue to lie to Crystal and make her think the Supreme Court would even consider setting aside the verdict, even though they had no legal ability to do that at this stage?
What's the big announcement?
Nifong Supporter said...
"Mangum has had legal advice from the git-go, which she followed, and look where it got her... a conviction on second degree murder and an 18 year maximum sentence."
Another iteration of harr the hypocritical fabricator indulging in fabrication.
"I understand the legal system in North Carolina is cruel, corrupt, and racist. If it were otherwise, Crystal would have never been charged or convicted from incidents arising from the April 3, 2011 incident."
The only time the NC justice system showed how corrupt it can be is when corrupt nifong used crystal's lie about being raped to prosecute innocent men for a crime which never happened.
This.
Nifong Supporter said...
"The truth is that Crystal does not need to be prepared for a lengthy imprisonment because my efforts will shortly result in her release and exoneration.
harr the hypocritical fabricator again indulging in fabrication.
When I take on a challenge, I do not throw in the towel. I fight until victory is mine.
Again you fabricate. You vowed you would force the nc stte bar to restore corrupt nifong's law license. That did not hppen.
You said the state would never take crystal to trial, tht the stte would dismiss the charges against her. That did not happen.
And don't forget all the frivolous non meritorious lawsuits you have filed and lost.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Walt, a defense strategy that completely omits Daye's cause of death, perjured testimony by the medical examiner and an autopsy report that is totally fraudulent is clearly a losing one... and that loser strategy is what Mangum's attorney (Shella, Vann, Holmes, Meier, and Petersen) have been advocating."
Again, harr the hypocritical fabricator indulges in fabrication. The cause of Reginald daye's death was known. There was no perjury. The autopsy report was not fraudulent.
"Besides, the case against Mangum was so weak that the State offered her a plea deal before opening arguments in which it offered her a sentence of time-served and ten years probation in exchange for a guilty plea to voluntary manslaughter and both charges of Larceny of Chose in Action. Wisely, she turned it down."
It was wise for her to turn down that deal in favor of a murder 2 conviction and a lengthy prison sentence.
You are incredibly and viciously and delusionally stupid, on top of being a hypocritical fabricator.
Anonymous December 18, 2015 at 5:21 AM said...
"Dr. Harr,
HOW do you expect Ms. Mangum to present a legal defense against the in-adequate legal defense council she received, and the unfair and unequal legal protection she was afforded, and the corrupt and duke biased in-justice system IF she has no adequate legal defense council? Seriously, explain yourself. Thanks."
Probably kenny hissy fit posting anonymously.
Anonymous December 18, 2015 at 5:21 AM said...
"Dr. Harr,
HOW do you expect Ms. Mangum to present a legal defense against the in-adequate legal defense council she received, and the unfair and unequal legal protection she was afforded, and the corrupt and duke biased in-justice system IF she has no adequate legal defense council? Seriously, explain yourself. Thanks."
Could have been harr the hypocritical fabricator posting anonymously.
There was enough time between harr's last comment and this comment.
Sidney said,
"Interesting theory. I think you have creative talent to be writer for a soap opera... coming up with fantastic plots."
I see the truth hurts, Sidney.
Sidney said,
"The truth is that Crystal does not need to be prepared for a lengthy imprisonment because my efforts will shortly result in her release and exoneration."
Sidney, amigo mio, you've been saying this for almost five years now.
I must admit that I am extremely disappointed in the NC Supreme Court's decision.
Walt and I explained to you why, legally, the PDR was invalid and could not be granted. (It raised issues that hadn't been raised before the Court of Appeals; it didn't cite to the Record; it didn't cite any caselaw; etc.) You didn't want to listen. You should have let Crystal's lawyer file her (legally proper) PDR.
It would be nice to have a reason as to why the Petition was denied. Certainly that's not an unreasonable expectation. I'm not surprised that no explanation was given because the decision was itself unreasonable.
The Supreme Court never explains why it denies a PDR. Check their docket: hundreds (perhaps thousands) of such petitions are denied every year, every single one without comment. The fact is that a criminal defendant has the right to one appeal, before the Court of Appeals. Crystal had hat appeal.Further review by the Supreme Court is not a matter of right, but purely in the discretion of the Court.
If Mangum had listened to her lawyers instead of Sid she'd be home and with her children for the holidays. As it stands now, she has at least ten more Christmas's in jail to look forward to before she gets to spend meaningful time with her adult children (assuming they still have a relationship with her by the time she gets out). In spite of this, Sid still insists he is right and stubbornly refuses to learn or change.
On a happier note, at least Sid has something to shlog about for the next ten years.
Well done, Sid. Well done indeed.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
It's about time for harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both to come up with another anonymous post.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If Mangum had listened to her lawyers instead of Sid she'd be home and with her children for the holidays. As it stands now, she has at least ten more Christmas's in jail to look forward to before she gets to spend meaningful time with her adult children (assuming they still have a relationship with her by the time she gets out). In spite of this, Sid still insists he is right and stubbornly refuses to learn or change.
On a happier note, at least Sid has something to shlog about for the next ten years.
Well done, Sid. Well done indeed.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Abe, unfortunately evil never rests, and after Mangum is released and exonerated, shortly, there will be plenty of topics for me to advocate... first and foremost will be Shan Carter.
guiowen said...
Sidney said,
"Interesting theory. I think you have creative talent to be writer for a soap opera... coming up with fantastic plots."
I see the truth hurts, Sidney.
Sidney said,
"The truth is that Crystal does not need to be prepared for a lengthy imprisonment because my efforts will shortly result in her release and exoneration."
Sidney, amigo mio, you've been saying this for almost five years now.
gui, mon ami, au contrare. The truth will set Crystal Mangum free. The truth and I are as one.
True, in the past I had given the system more credit than due for being reasonable and somewhat fair. Clearly I was wrong. The conspiracy is tight, strong, and vast. On the other hand, I have been battling it alone, as no one else would lift a pinkie to get involved. So, yes... I did believe initially that it would take no more than a couple of weeks to rectify the case and have prosecutors drop the murder and larceny charges against Mangum. However, now I feel as though I am on the precipice of a breakthrough.
Anonymous LanceTheIntern said...
This.
Hah! Lance The Intern, thanks for the visual levity.
However, an important distinction. I am not beating a dead horse, I'm giving it CPR.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid ... you still planning a big announcement today about Crystal's imminent release? I assume this was completely independent of the N.C. Supreme Court's actions because you've been told all along that the best case for Crystal would be that they'd allow the appeal to go forward, which would be at least another year before a decision.
Or, did you ignore all of that and continue to lie to Crystal and make her think the Supreme Court would even consider setting aside the verdict, even though they had no legal ability to do that at this stage?
What's the big announcement?
It was my hope that the NC Supreme Court would do the right thing and either reconsider the Court of Appeals decision or overturn her conviction outright. This did not happen, unfortunately, so her imminent release is not happening. I do anticipate that she will be released within a matter of months... hopefully sooner.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Abe, unfortunately evil never rests, and after Mangum is released and exonerated, shortly, there will be plenty of topics for me to advocate... first and foremost will be Shan Carter."
Shan Carter, another example of harr the hypocritical fabricator again indulging in fabrication.
Shan Carter was a convicted felon when he robbed another drug dealer, Tyrone Baker, of a large sum of money, setting up a confrontation. When Tyrone Baker confronted Sha Carter, Shan Carter pulled out an illegally possessed .357 magnum, and opened fire on Tyrone Baker. Tyrone Baker fled. Shan Carter pursued him, continued firing on him, killinghim and killing an innocent bystande, 8 year old Demetrius Greene. harr the hypocritical fabricator says this was self defense and the death of Demetrius Greene was just an unfortunate accident.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Anonymous LanceTheIntern said...
This.
Hah! Lance The Intern, thanks for the visual levity.
However, an important distinction. I am not beating a dead horse, I'm giving it CPR."
Another example of harr the hypocritical fabricator indulging in fabrication.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,
HOW do you expect Ms. Mangum to present a legal defense against the in-adequate legal defense council she received, and the unfair and unequal legal protection she was afforded, and the corrupt and duke biased in-justice system IF she has no adequate legal defense council? Seriously, explain yourself. Thanks.
Because the appeal is no longer in play with the NC Supreme Court ruling on her Pro Se PDR, Mangum now has access to legal representation from the state. So she will have legal defense counsel... however, what she will have to do is aggressively take control of her lawsuit as best she can. In the appeals process, Ann Petersen did not consult with Mangum and had virtually no interaction with her whatever. The single 404(b) appeal she filed was a joke, especially with the plethora of other issues for appeal which were much stronger... foremost among them ineffective counsel at trial. This will be part of the means for Mangum to get justice. My advocacy work on her behalf will compound her efforts in her quest for freedom and exoneration.
Nifong Supporter said...
"It was my hope that the NC Supreme Court would do the right thing and either reconsider the Court of Appeals decision or overturn her conviction outright."
Yet another example of harr the hypocritical fabricator indulging in fabrication. The NC Supreme Court did the right thing.
"This did not happen, unfortunately, so her imminent release is not happening. I do anticipate that she will be released within a matter of months... hopefully sooner."
Here, harr the hypocritical fabricator shows he is also a deluded megalomaniac.
Nifong Supporter said...
"Because the appeal is no longer in play with the NC Supreme Court ruling on her Pro Se PDR, Mangum now has access to legal representation from the state. So she will have legal defense counsel... however, what she will have to do is aggressively take control of her lawsuit as best she can."
What good will that do her. crystal has a history of ignoring advice of her counsel in favor of advice from no legal training, no legal experience hypocritical fabricator mr.harr. That is what got her convicted of murder 2 and got her a long prison term.
"In the appeals process, Ann Petersen did not consult with Mangum and had virtually no interaction with her whatever. The single 404(b) appeal she filed was a joke, especially with the plethora of other issues for appeal which were much stronger... foremost among them ineffective counsel at trial. This will be part of the means for Mangum to get justice."
Again harr the hypocritical fabricator indulges in fabrication.
"My advocacy work on her behalf will compound her efforts in her quest for freedom and exoneration."
Again harr the hypocritical fabricator shows he is also a deluded megalomaniac.
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"I have been battling it alone, as no one else would lift a pinkie to get involved."
December 19, 2015 at 3:12 AM
Dr. Harr,
kenhyderal has stated on your blog that he has a plan to reverse Crystal's conviction and recover compensation for her from North Carolina. Are you ignoring kenhyderal? Why are the two of you not working together to rectify this grave injustice?
Why are the two of you not working together to rectify this grave injustice?
Because I am the rectumfinder!
Anonymous said...
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"'I have been battling it alone, as no one else would lift a pinkie to get involved.'
December 19, 2015 at 3:12 AM
Dr. Harr,
kenhyderal has stated on your blog that he has a plan to reverse Crystal's conviction and recover compensation for her from North Carolina. Are you ignoring kenhyderal? Why are the two of you not working together to rectify this grave injustice?"
however there was no injustice. Trying to get crystal a pass for her crimes, that would be an injustice.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
Sid,
Suspending reality and accepting (without agreeing with) your belief that Mangum is innocent, wouldn't it have been far more prudent for her to accept the plea deal? You still could have advocated for her exoneration and compensation for the time she spent in jail, but she would have been home with her kids while you did so. Instead, she is in prison with no realistic way out until at least 2025.
Why would you advise her to take a course of action that was clearly against her own self-interest?
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
I'm proud to call the rectumfinder my friend.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
Anonymous said:`harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again`............................................................ Stop pretending. You know full well that neither Dr. Harr or I would ever post anonymously. Constantly posting this refrain is remeniscent of the Goebbels` adage, `tell a lie often enough and people will come to believe it`.
Sid said:
"I am not beating a dead horse, I'm giving it CPR."
Either way the horse is dead. And is it really wiser to put your lips on a dead horse's mouth than it is to beat it's carcass with a stick?
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
kenhyderal said...
"Stop pretending. You know full well that neither Dr. Harr or I would ever post anonymously."
Yes you would. You have a need to create an illusion, that people support your racist, guilt presuming vviews, that people support yor crusade to get your favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes.
kenhyderal said...
"Constantly posting this refrain is remeniscent of the Goebbels` adage, `tell a lie often enough and people will come to believe it`."
This must be why you constantly re-post the lie that crystal was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2996.
harr the fabricating hypocrite or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
UBES:
HAVE YOU AND THE LIESTOPPERCRANKS TAKEN THE EVENING OFF?
SPIN UBES SPIN
QUACK
QUACK
QUACK
You are not the real Kilgo.
It's about time for harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both to come up with another anonymous post.
You are not the real Kilgo.
To my surprise, one hundred stories high
People getting loose y'all, getting down on the roof
Folks are screaming, out of control
It was so entertaining when the boogie started to explode
I heard somebody say
disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn) disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
Satisfaction came in a chain reaction
(Burnin')
I couldn't get enough, so I had to self-destruct
The heat was on, rising to the top
Everybody going strong, and that is when my spark got hot
I heard somebody say
disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down y'all
(Burn baby burn) disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
Up above my head
I hear music in the air
That makes me know
There's a party somewhere
SPIN UBES SPIN
kilgo is either harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously.
Come on Ubes, you can do better than that.
Either harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both posing as kilgo again and posting anonymously again. even harr thr hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit could have done better.
Kilgo,
Why don't you just give Kenhyderal the information he needs?
I will give kenhyderal the information when he visits me in Durham.
I find it sad that Sid continues to lie to Crystal - he's been telling her that the Supreme Court might overturn her conviction this week, even though he was repeatedly told that was not a possibility - the best case would be to allow the appeal to go forward - which would take time.
He doesn't care about the law - he cares about hurting Crystal. It's sad.
So no one told you life was gonna be this way
Your job's a joke, you're broke, your love life's D.O.A.
It's like you're always stuck in second gear
When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year, but
I'll be there for you
(When the rain starts to pour)
I'll be there for you
(Like I've been there before)
I'll be there for you
('Cause you're there for me too)
You're still in bed at ten and work began at eight
You've burned your breakfast, so far things are going great
Your mother warned you there'd be days like these
But she didn't tell you when the world has brought you down to your knees that
I'll be there for you
(When the rain starts to pour)
I'll be there for you
(Like I've been there before)
I'll be there for you
('Cause you're there for me too)
No one could ever know me
No one could ever see me
Seems you're the only one who knows what it's like to be me
Someone to face the day with, make it through all the rest with
Someone I'll always laugh with
Even at my worst, I'm best with you, yeah!
It's like you're always stuck in second gear
When it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or even your year
I'll be there for you
(When the rain starts to pour)
I'll be there for you
(Like I've been there before)
I'll be there for you
('Cause you're there for me too)
I'll be there for you
(When the rain starts to pour)
I'll be there for you
(Like I've been there before)
I'll be there for you
('Cause you're there for me too)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,
Suspending reality and accepting (without agreeing with) your belief that Mangum is innocent, wouldn't it have been far more prudent for her to accept the plea deal? You still could have advocated for her exoneration and compensation for the time she spent in jail, but she would have been home with her kids while you did so. Instead, she is in prison with no realistic way out until at least 2025.
Why would you advise her to take a course of action that was clearly against her own self-interest?
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
I would not advise her to accept the plea deal because she did not commit any crime. They wanted her to plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter and Larceny of Chose in Action when in actuality she was the victim of domestic violence and acted in self-defense. With a criminal record including the felony manslaughter it would be extremely difficult for her to get a job or an apartment. Plus, by admitting guilt, she would waive any chance of compensation for wrongful conviction and imprisonment to which she is entitled. The other reason the plea deal would've been a bad idea is that it had a ten year probation period... during that time they could easily trump up a probation violation and land her back in jail to complete the sentence. Even for something as minor as missing a monthly payment to cover probation could land her in jail.
Had Mangum had attorney at trial who was not in cahoots with the prosecution, she would never had been convicted. Meier had to work fairly hard to hand the prosecution a victory, but believe me that he had plenty of help from the judge and the media.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid said:
"I am not beating a dead horse, I'm giving it CPR."
Either way the horse is dead. And is it really wiser to put your lips on a dead horse's mouth than it is to beat it's carcass with a stick?
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Abe, the latest protocol for CPR does not include giving mouth-to-mouth breaths... just cardiac massage.
Beside's, a horse's mouth probably contains fewer germs than a human's.
Nifong Supporter said...
"I would not advise her to accept the plea deal because she did not commit any crime."
Again you fabricate. She murdered Reginald Daye.
"They wanted her to plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter and Larceny of Chose in Action when in actuality she was the victim of domestic violence and acted in self-defense."
Again you fabricate. Evidence at trial showed she did not act in self defense, that she was the aggressor.
"With a criminal record including the felony manslaughter it would be extremely difficult for her to get a job or an apartment."
She could have avoided that by not committing crimes. She was committing crimes years before she falsely accused the Lacrosse players of raping her.
"Plus, by admitting guilt, she would waive any chance of compensation for wrongful conviction and imprisonment to which she is entitled."
As crystal did murder Reginald Daye, her conviction was not at all wrongful and did not entitle her to any compensation.
"The other reason the plea deal would've been a bad idea is that it had a ten year probation period... during that time they could easily trump up a probation violation and land her back in jail to complete the sentence. Even for something as minor as missing a monthly payment to cover probation could land her in jail."
No one ever trumped up any criminal charges against crystal. On the other hand, her lies about rape did result in trumped up charges against three innocent men. And you are extremely p---ed off that they were not convicted of said trumped up charges.
"Had Mangum had attorney at trial who was not in cahoots with the prosecution, she would never had been convicted."
She did have attorneys who were not in cahoots with the prosecution but nevertheless she was convicted. Again you fabricate.
"Meier had to work fairly hard to hand the prosecution a victory,"
crystal insured her own conviction by insisting on taking the stand and delivering non credible testimony. She, herself, and no one else, made the prosecution victory possible.
"but believe me"
Believe you who has never come u with anything credible in your life???!!! Oh come now.
"that he had plenty of help from the judge and the media."
Again you fabricate.
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"I have been battling it alone, as no one else would lift a pinkie to get involved."
December 19, 2015 at 3:12 AM
Dr. Harr,
Are you suggesting that kenhyderal is making no effort to reverse Crystal's conviction?
Sid - self-defense was tried to the jury and rejected ... nothing in the Medical Records affects that.
What would you have done differently on the self-defense part? The only things you have stated that Meier did wrong in that portion is not bringing up Daye's prior record (which was inadmissible), and Kia Haynes's "perjured" testimony - which you admitted you were wrong.
So you are an idiot, and an abuser - who must really like hurting Crystal because you constantly lie to her and mislead her. You are a sadist.
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"I have been battling it alone, as no one else would lift a pinkie to get involved."
December 19, 2015 at 3:12 AM
Dr. Harr,
Are you suggesting that kenhyderal is making no effort to reverse Crystal's conviction?
kenhyderal has done nothing to help Crystal. He would rather cut and paste his google searches on this blog and attempt to impress people.
Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996
Sidney says:
"Because the appeal is no longer in play with the NC Supreme Court ruling on her Pro Se PDR, Mangum now has access to legal representation from the state. So she will have legal defense counsel... however, what she will have to do is aggressively take control of her lawsuit as best she can."
Curious what this means? Can Magnum now go back to a state supplied lawyer? What are her options now?
Anonymous at 7:55 AM who fictitiously signs himself Malek Williams and purports to be a classmate of Crystal said: `kenhyderal has done nothing to help Crystal. He would rather cut and paste his google searches on this blog and attempt to impress people........................................ Talk about projection. This person continuously dregs up old posts by myself and Dr. Harr, cuts and pastes them into a current discussion usually out of context. So, Malek would you like to have a comparison tally of anything I`ve cut and pasted from Google or from anywhere on the internet with what you have plagiarized from me. By the way, Crystal does not know you and doubts whether you were ever her classmate, by this or any other name. You once said the reason she doesn`t know you is because you abandoned your `slave name`. So what do you call Williams. Whoever you are you are a coward and a phoney.
But, in fact, Kenhyderal, you're doing nothing to help Crystal. I have it on good authority that you haven't even lifted a pinkie to help.
harr the hypocritical fabricator strikes again. He accuses the News and Observer in a recent letter in being complicit in the wrongful incarceration of crystal mangum. crystal was not wrongfully incarcerated. crystal murdered Reginald Daye.
harr the fabricating hypocritical fabricator continues to rant about the Duke Rape hoax. He tries to promulgate the fabrication that the prosecution of the innocent lacrosse players was justified, again presuming in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary that crystal was raped. crystal was not raped. crystal was a criminl and a false accuser before she ever murdered Reginald Daye.
harr the hypocritical fabricator, what evidence is there that anyone raped crystal on the night of 13/;14 March 2006.
I remind you, any claim that the case files have been sealed and the evidence is not available is a fabrication.
To say no one has proven crystal lied has no legal significance. For any criminal guilt to be established the state had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that crystal told the truth.
kenny hissy fit, establish crystal was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
The finding of sperm fraction dna on crystal's person via the rape kit material does not establish she was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006. It only establishes she had sexual intercourse at some time.
Anonymous said: " It only establishes she had sexual intercourse at some time'...............And that time includes the night of Mar. 13/14 2006. The unknown DNA was unexplained by her carefully taken and easily confirmed consensual history leaving one to surmise that she was raped.
"Easily confirmed"?
As usual, you expect us to believe everything she said?
Maybe you'd like us to go to each of her customers?
Ha, Ha, Ha!
kenhyderal said...
Anonymous said: " It only establishes she had sexual intercourse at some time'...............And that time includes the night of Mar. 13/14 2006."
And how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the nightt of 13/14 March was the time of deposition? In spite of your pseudo science, the failure to detect alkaline phosphatase on the rape kit materials raises a great deal of reasonable doubt as to whether any male deposited semen on crystal on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
kenhyderal said...
"The unknown DNA was unexplained by her carefully taken and easily confirmed consensual history leaving one to surmise that she was raped."
So explain why nifong, who had custody of the evidence, made no attempt to identify who had deposited the dna. Said dna evidence meant that nifong had no evidence to link any member of the Lacrosse team to the alleged rape and had no probable cause to prosecute them for the alleged crime. I remind you, the sexual assault alleged by crystal was a brutal gang rape in which multiple males assaulted her and deposited their dna on her.
kenhyderal said...
"The unknown DNA was unexplained by her carefully taken and easily confirmed consensual history leaving one to surmise that she was raped."
Leading you to surmise she was aped. However, surmising is not proving. How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that crystal was raped.
Anybody see that nasty slag that ran over more than thirty innocent people in Vegas? A spitting image of our favorite rape hoaxster/hooker/murderer.They're known by the scientific name Crystal Mangumus Africanass.Avoid at all cost.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid - self-defense was tried to the jury and rejected ... nothing in the Medical Records affects that.
What would you have done differently on the self-defense part? The only things you have stated that Meier did wrong in that portion is not bringing up Daye's prior record (which was inadmissible), and Kia Haynes's "perjured" testimony - which you admitted you were wrong.
So you are an idiot, and an abuser - who must really like hurting Crystal because you constantly lie to her and mislead her. You are a sadist.
Regarding Aykia Hanes, I was wrong about the layout of the apartments and conclusions made in accordance to that. Ms. Hanes, nonetheless, committed perjury when she stated that Mangum came to the apartment door from which Daye had just allegedly fled, told Hanes' boyfriend "Everything's fine," and slammed the door. Never took place.
As far as defending Mangum, I would do the obvious... declare that no crime was committed in Daye's death. That Daye's death was an accident due to malpractice by Duke University Hospital with its esophageal intubation in treating his delirium tremens. All of Mangum's turncoat attorneys avoided the medical issues of the case and the crimes committed by the medical examiner.
Hey Anonymous @ December 22, 2015 at 2:53 AM
Did you happen to notice that Dylan Roof(Emmanuel AME shooter), James Holmes(Aurora Movie shooter), Adam Lanza(Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter), Robert Lewis Dear(Colorado Planned Parenthood shooter), Dylan Klebolt and Eric Harris(Columbinr High School shooters), Hasan Nadal(Fort Hood shooter), Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez(shooter who killed 4 Marines and 1 Sailor in Chattanooga) were all white?
And lest you want to indulge in an anti Muslim rant, 6 of the above named 8 were not Muslim.
Nifong Supporter said...
"As far as defending Mangum, I would do the obvious... declare that no crime was committed in Daye's death. That Daye's death was an accident due to malpractice by Duke University Hospital with its esophageal intubation in treating his delirium tremens."
harr, the minimally trained, minimally experienced medical school graduate whose legal career consisted of filing and losing frivolous, non meritorious lawsuits and whois a hypocritical fabricator, fabricates again.
And again, he thinks his delusional proclamations have some legal weight.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
"I have been battling it alone, as no one else would lift a pinkie to get involved."
December 19, 2015 at 3:12 AM
Dr. Harr,
Are you suggesting that kenhyderal is making no effort to reverse Crystal's conviction?
In stating that I am alone in battling for Crystal, I am referring to those in position to make a difference and who have a mandate to do so... such as politicians, civil rights and social justice organizations (NAACP, ACLU, NC Justice Center, Innocence Inquiry Commission, NC Center on Actual Innocence, mainstream media-types, etc.)
I have strong reason to believe that kenhyderal has long been a supporter of Mangum and has taken action to help her. There may be other private civilians who are attempting to help Mangum of whom I am unaware.
Hope this provides edification required for your query.
Nifong Supporter said...
"All of Mangum's turncoat attorneys(here harr the hypocritical fabricator fabricates again) avoided the medical issues of the case and the crimes committed by the medical examiner."
harr the hypocritical fabricator again ignores the explanations of true legal experts that what he identifies as medical issues do not relieve crystal of criminal responsibility for killing Reginald Daye.
Nifong Supporter said...
"In stating that I am alone in battling for Crystal, I am referring to those in position to make a difference and who have a mandate to do so... such as politicians, civil rights and social justice organizations (NAACP, ACLU, NC Justice Center, Innocence Inquiry Commission, NC Center on Actual Innocence, mainstream media-types, etc.)"
So you are trying to enlist people in your crusade to get your favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes.
Hey Anonymous @ December 22, 2015 at 2:53 AM
Did you happen to notice that Ethan Couch, the affluenza teen who stole two cases of beer, who drove his father's pickup truck abnd crashed it at high sopeed, killing and injuring a number of people and who is now on the run from the consequences, is white.
I am no friend of Sidney Harr.But you are as corrupt as he is.
As far as defending Mangum, I would do the obvious... declare that no crime was committed in Daye's death. That Daye's death was an accident due to malpractice by Duke University Hospital with its esophageal intubation in treating his delirium tremens. All of Mangum's turncoat attorneys avoided the medical issues of the case and the crimes committed by the medical examiner.
She stabbed him - if no self-defense, there was still a felony, even if Duke intentionally murdered Daye. You keep ignoring self-defense because it doesn't fit your anti-Duke bias, and because you know it was tried, and rejected. You are a pathetic, sadistic, abuser.
Anonymous said...
"As far as defending Mangum, I would do the obvious... declare that no crime was committed in Daye's death. That Daye's death was an accident due to malpractice by Duke University Hospital with its esophageal intubation in treating his delirium tremens."
You would have to do more than just declare that some other event was the cause of Reginald daye's death. I believe you would be offering an affirmative defense, meaning the burden of proof that something else killed Reginald Daye would be on you. You would have to establish that medical malpractice unrelated to the stab wound caused the death and that would have to be established by expert medical testimony. Who would have provided that testimony? harr the hypocritical fabricator?
I point out again that mr. harr, being but a minimally trained, minimally experienced graduate of a medical school who was never accepted into residency training and who never achieved medical board specialty certification would never have been recognized by the court as any kind of expert medical witness. The only two experts in the trial, Dr Nichols and Dr. Roberts agreed that Reginald Daye's death was due to complications from the stab wound inflicted by crystal.
You would never have been able to prove your affirmative defense.
Plus - the cause of death was only relevant to Manslaughter v. Murder if the stabbing was not justified due to self-defense, and the jury rejected self-defense.
Blogger Nifong Supporter said...
In stating that I am alone in battling for Crystal, I am referring to those in position to make a difference . . . .
Hope this provides edification required for your query.
December 22, 2015 at 4:27 AM
Thank you for the clarification Dr. Harr. So, I assume you have concluded that kenhyderal is not able capable of making a difference?
It's about time for harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both to come up with another anonymous post.
What most posters on this blog fail to comprehend is, that in North Carolina, defendents, especially minorities and the poor are routinely subjected to blatent over-charging, the setting of a bail amount designed to be well beyond their ability to raise and then to hold them for many long months without bringing them to trial and threatening them with months more of the same, in order to pressure them in pleading guilty to a reduced charge in exchange for time served. This is especially odious and beyond evil when the victim is a mother, being separated from her children. Such has been the victimization of Crystal Mangum.
harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both have come up with another anonymous pst
What I really want to know - and what people don't seem to want to talk about - is why Duke traded 5 senior Taliban leaders for Sgt. Bergdahl
Uh Oh, watch out!!!! Bulletin....bulletin....bulletin!
Duke just tilted the earth off its axis so that they could provide more terrible medical services to the people who injure themselves...falling down....from screwed up gravity! Oh, and get this.....Duke has future plans to turn off the sun...thus making the entire universe dark....and thus creating an opportunity to sell more terrible medical services to people who get hurt, bumping into furniture!
Duke is All Powerful!!!!!!
Be scared.....be very scared......
Anybody who knows how old and deteriorated Durham's downtown buildings are could quickly realize that a destructive earthquake in Durham would cause quite a bit of damage (er: clearing the way for a new Durham).
If Duke wanted the fracking stopped for safety and health reasons, the fight their resources could wage over fracking would benefit the health and welfare of the entire world.
Fracking up the world is obviously not an idea that helps humanity nor the earth.
Anonymous December 22, 2015 at 5:38 PM;
When the three innocent Lacrosse players were charged, bail was set for each of them at $400,000.
Michael Jermaine Burch, a black man, raped a Duke Coed. He was released on a $50,000 bond. While free on bail he raped a second woman.
No one in the Durham DA'a office made much of a fuss about Michael Jermaine Burch. He was allowed to plead to two counts of attempted rape. He was sentenced to 5 years. Corrupt nifong wanted to put each of the innocent white lacrosse players away for 30 years.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4748499/
More than a little hypocritical here, aren't we?
Did you happen to notice blacks commit murder at a rate six times higher than whites? Blacks also commit all other violent crimes at a rate far higher than any other racial group.The Founding Fathers were correct.They favored African repatriation.America would so much better if it was all white or at least non-black.
Dr. Harr,
Maybe NOW you could actually pay a bit of attention to the fact that you host a very evil duke troll on your blog who seems to think it is its. Are you a duke operative AND the host of evil duke trolls who you lure unsuspecting persons to your evil duke troll hate ridden blog with self-serving letters to news agencies ... since that's is what you have done ... or what? Checking on the progress of this case by visiting your blog is like entering an insane cyberbullying free zone ... and you welcome it. What's up with that? ???
December 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM
If they do all that - then they will be dead too.
December 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM
Actually, what Duke does is they sit back and watch the evil they helped unleash destroy people and the environment. Some may say something about it, but those who do invariably find themselves powerless against the evil Duke unleashes upon the world. So, yeah, Duke itself has the ability and power to right a lot of evil they have unleashed (and unleash) upon the world and its citizens, but they don't. Like watching this entire case unfold on this blog knowing full well that the state's medical examiner was wrong in the autopsy report used to convict Ms. Mangum (unless Duke really did mutilate Mr. Daye and the state's autopsy report was right). They just sit there and watch and laugh (or whatever they do when they sit and watch their evil leashed upon others they deem expendable).
harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again, trying to create the illusion that people support their agenda, namely getting theit favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes.
December 23, 2015 at 3:50 AM
You have difficulties reading and comprehending what is said don't you. What in any of those posts supported murderers or criminals. It was about duke, and DID NOT support their crimes or murders in any way. blah
Why do you assume it was Duke that mutilated Daye, and not the fact that Crystal buried a 7 inch steak knife to the hilt in his side? That would tend to do a lot of damage - and perhaps the medical records aren't perfect - Sid oddly seems to think there can be no mistake in the Medical Records, though Duke is otherwise horribly flawed.
Tinfoil said:
"You have difficulties reading and comprehending what is said don't you. What in any of those posts supported murderers or criminals. It was about duke, and DID NOT support their crimes or murders in any way. blah"
You support murderers Tinfoil. You support them by lying and falsely accusing others of wrong doing in an effort to excuse them of their crimes.
Mangum murdered Mr. Daye. It wasn't in self defense and, as the law and common sense dictates, she is responsible for the consequences of her actions, including any resulting medical mistakes that may have contributed to Mr. Daye's demise.
Mangum's murder trial had nothing to do with Duke. It was about Mangum and, more importantly Mr. Daye. Specifically, it was about the role Mangum played in Mr. Daye's death.
Falsely accusing others of wrongdoing, without a shred of evidence, in an effort to exculpate Mangum of her crimes, is supporting a murderer and a [habitual] criminal.
No one is buying what you, Sid and ken are peddling. You aren't fooling anyone. What you are doing is not helping Mangum in any way, shape or form. It just makes you look ridiculous. No sausage for you.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
TinFoil,
As to reading comprehension, aren't you the one who thinks "It's all the same to me" means the same as "I hope"?
Anonymous said...
"December 23, 2015 at 3:50 AM
You have difficulties reading and comprehending what is said don't you. What in any of those posts supported murderers or criminals."
harr the hypocrite supports both crystal and shan carter, both of whom ae convicted murderers. crystal was a convicted criminal before she ever false ly accused the innocent Lacrosse players of raping her, because of her actions, stealing a cab, driving under the influence, speeding, fleeing from the police in a high speed chase, trying to run down an officer after she was stopped. She got a break and was convicted only of misdemeanors. She still was a convicted criminal, and the contrived account in her memoir does not nullify the facts.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
December 23, 2015 at 3:50 AM
You have difficulties reading and comprehending what is said don't you."
No I don't. What harr the hypocritical fabricator and kenny hissy fit say about crystal the murderess false accuser is fabrication. The people like you who take it as true are the ones lackking in comprehension.
December 23, 2015 at 8:27 AM
wtf, i'm not peddling anything
ya'll are the ones who can't read and comprehend the medical reports and the autopsy reports
wtf, wtf, wtf
(that's f=frack btw)
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never thought comprehending medical reports would be such a problem ... but hey - ya'll prove that it is
blah and blah and blah again
... and blah (that's blah to ya'll in case ya'll can't comprehend)
harr the hypocritical fabrictor or kenny hissy fit or oth posting anonymously. They are the chief proponents of the discredited contention that the medical record showed that crystal did not kill Reginald Daye.
you are seriously being a very evil duke troll hailing from the nonwonderland blog website in your own major bs hate driven ways with an agenda of causing others harm here and elsewhere with your hate-filled agendas.
Ignore Ubes, he is having one of his liestoppercrank meltdowns.
Spin Ubes Spin
QUACK
QUACK
QUACK
Oh No !
Ubes has lapsed into his
notorious Crank mode !
my evil duke troll shadow is BACK!
hey
repeat this: blah
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egad egad and egad
so ... this is your latest alias and trolling trick evil duke troll it g... tin hat hatemonger
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p.s. what happened to your little ms. manners alias, eh?
Someone is seriously pissed off and stressed out over exposure to the truth. Either harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both.
Actually, I think it's the Cry-bully.
Dr. Harr,
I don't agree with much of what you say, but I appreciate your maintaining this forum for debate and for allowing those who disagree with you to post here. Have a happy holiday and a healthy New Year!
And the same to Walt, Abe and the other posters here who keep things civil. (As for the racist jerk who posts anonymously, I hope Santa brings you a lump of coal. Black coal.)
A Lawyer December 24, 2015 at 8:17 AM
That would be a waste of coal, a natural resource.
It's about time for harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both to come up with another anonymous post.
fy ubes
stop trolling me you evil duke troll hatemonger
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Maybe harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hussy fit or maybe both have left another anonymous post.
Merry Christmas Quasi
Yet another anonymous comment frome harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both. Harr the hypocritical hypocrite and kenny hissy fit must be really cowed.
Lighten up Quasi
To the 6:00,
I tried asking you to mind your manners. It's clear however that cry-bullies like you have no idea of what it means to mind their manners.
i didn't say any of that evil duke troll it g... i am not talking on this blog right now much anyway except to Dr. Harr and to fight you off continuously as you troll on and on - and you know it since you are simply trolling yourself over and over again (as usual) even to fight yourself off (which is really weird btw - but hey that's you)
stop trying to pretend to be me - it is not working
you certainly are a prime example of the evil duke promotes - i am sure they are laughing along with you as you troll on
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To the 4:22,
My last comment was clearly addressed to whoever posted at 6:00.
If you indeed posted at 6:00, then you certainly said whatever was there.
If you didn't post at 6:00, then my comment was not addressed to you, so stop whining.
and there it is again
... evil duke troll it g... in pure g... form being evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger in pure g... form (again)
DO you EVER stop g...?
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(just wondering)
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And by the way UbesQuasi or QuasiUbes you also are an evil duke troll with series hatemonger and cyberbullying tendencies
harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both have come up with another anonymous post
there you go again UbesQuasi or QuasiUbes
Harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both posting anonymously again.
Ubes and his alter ego Quasi are having another serious liestoppercrank meltdown.
Spin Ubes Spin
Spin Quasi Spin
Quack Quack Quack
Another anonymous post from harr the hypocritical fabricztor or kenny hissy fit or from both.
Help! The Cry-bully is after me!
A lawyer wrote: "Dr. Harr,
I don't agree with much of what you say, but I appreciate your maintaining this forum for debate and for allowing those who disagree with you to post here. Have a happy holiday and a healthy New Year!
And the same to Walt, Abe and the other posters here who keep things civil. (As for the racist jerk who posts anonymously, I hope Santa brings you a lump of coal. Black coal.)"
I wish to associate myself with A lawyer's comments. Well said and Merry Christmas.
Walt
Quasi
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ubes you are seriously being a very evil duke troll hailing from the nonwonderland blog website in your own major bs hate driven ways with an agenda of causing others harm here and elsewhere with your hate-filled agendas.
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