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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 962 Newer› Newest»Where is the little man Ubes?
Where is mini man kilgo?
Where is Sidney's ass?
Have no fear, for I will find it. I am...
The Rectumfinder!
Crude, puerile and ignorant but nary a word of censure from the anti-Crystal posters who profess sincerity and professionalism.
hissy fit throwing another impotent ignorant puerile tantrum because he has provided zero evidence crystal was raped:
"Crude, puerile and ignorant but nary a word of censure from the anti-Crystal posters who profess sincerity and professionalism."
Why is hissy fit so invested in believing crystal was raped? What gratification does he get from believing that?
Marilyn Mosby is another Nifong style scumbag.She knows the Baltimore police officers are innocent and there won't be any convictions but is proceeding with the trials anyway.
Sid:
You have 179 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 6 days since the end of June, 74 days since April 23rd, 113 days since the Ides of March and 3,308 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
hey, hisssy fit:
You have provided zero evidence that anyone raped crystal at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
Hey hissy fit:
What gratification do you get from eblieving crystal was raped, in the face of zero evidence that she was.
maybe harr is going to pull up stakes and move to Maryland to start a Justice4Mosby web site. Marilyn Mosby has had a complaint filed against her calling for her disbarment, citing things which got corrupt nifong disbarred, making inappropriate public guilt presuming statements, concealing exculpatory evidence from the defendants.
Kenny stated regarding Cooper's investigation: Supposedly. Too bad he wont share what he learned from this so called thorough investigation instead of just telling us what he concluded.
No reasonable individual could read the report issued by Cooper and the special prosecutors and conclude that the defendants were not innocent of the charges they faced. No reasonable person could conclude that Mangum had been sexually assaulted at the party. Having said that, I wish that Cooper had provided a more complete analysis of his findings, including direct release of the additional evidence upon which he relied so that we could see it firsthand. As we all know, most of the evidence from the original case is publicly available, and other than Mangum's inconsistent allegations (which are contradicted by other evidence), there is no credible evidence to support Nifong's case.
It is unclear whether Cooper underestimated the fundamental dishonesty of Nifong supporters and Mangum cultists or whether he understood how completely dishonest they are, recognizing that no amount of information would ever be sufficient to overcome their bias.
Look at the critics. Cohan, in writing what he claimed was a "definitive" account, refused to examine the evidence publicly available, dishonestly concluding with no evidence that "something happened," albeit he doesn't know what. Sidney hypocritically claims that only a trial can determine guilt or innocence, while at the same time dismissing the result of any trial he does not like. Kenny invents a preposterous theory of mystery rapists, challenging critics to prove that his theory could not possibly be true while refusing to discuss its fatal weaknesses. No one presents any evidence to support their criticism of Cooper, relying entirely on innuendo and ridiculous speculation.
What a disgusting display of dishonesty.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
John D. Smith Said: " challenging critics to prove that his theory could not possibly be true while refusing to discuss its fatal weaknesses"............... Wrong. I am more then willing to discuss what I believe to be the case. I base this on many facts and much circumstantial evidence. To begin with I know Crystal and know her to be an honest person. The widespread caricature of Crystal disseminated bears no resemblance to the person I know. In a statement given to the Police Crystal's Driver maintains she did not arrive impaired. Roberts statement verifies this as does the neighbor's observation. She precipitously fell into impairment after consuming a drink handed her. A couple of beers and a Flexeril had in the past never had such an effect on her. This was a drunken beer bash by a group infamous for bad behavior. The money she had been prepaid on arrival was stolen from her purse. The rapid impairment and then rapid recovery she experienced is indicative of the date rape drug chloral hydrate which unlike GHB and others was at that time undetectable by methods then available. The day long party broke up precipitously when it was feared Police would likely be coming. The observation on Crystal of a fluid assumed to semen be but not confirmed and the subsequent finding of multiple DNA samples extracted from sperm was unexplained by Crystal's truthful consensual sexual history. Finally, the story told me by a J4N poster Kilgo that a Player friend told him he had seen Crystal being raped while impaired.
" Crystal's truthful consensual sexual history"?
Don't make us laugh, Kenny!
clap trap from hissy fit:
"John D. Smith Said: " challenging critics to prove that his theory could not possibly be true while refusing to discuss its fatal weaknesses"............... Wrong. I am more then willing to discuss what I believe to be the case."
What you believe is irrelevant. You believe your own fabrications, not the facts.
"I base this on many facts and much circumstantial evidence. To begin with I know Crystal and know her to be an honest person. The widespread caricature of Crystal disseminated bears no resemblance to the person I know."
All this means is you believe in a crystal who does not exist.
"In a statement given to the Police Crystal's Driver maintains she did not arrive impaired."
He was wrong.
"Roberts statement verifies this as does the neighbor's observation."
Neither Roberts nor Jason Bissey provided any proof she was sober.
"She precipitously fell into impairment after consuming a drink handed her."
She was impaired when she arrived at the party.
End Part 1.
Part 2:
"A couple of beers and a Flexeril had in the past never had such an effect on her."
ˇThat is what no clinical training, no clinical experience hissy fit says. The makers of the drug and the medical experts caution patients about drinking alcohol on top of taking flexeril. By her own admission crystal consumed a large amount of beer on top of taking flexeril. That is fact. hissy fit presents wishful thinking.
"This was a drunken beer bash by a group infamous for bad behavior."
No it wasn't. It was a fabrication on the part of nifong who wanted to convict members of the Lacrosse team, and groups like the guilt presuming pot bangers. It was a meta narrative. James Coleman's report, while detailing some problems with the team, problems which happened in the entire student body of Duke, documented that the team was not a wild out of control mob.
"The money she had been prepaid on arrival was stolen from her purse."
That was never proven. She was paid the money for performing. She failed to perform, to fulfill her part of the contract. She never earned the money in the first place.
"The rapid impairment and then rapid recovery she experienced is indicative of the date rape drug chloral hydrate which unlike GHB and others was at that time undetectable by methods then available."
There was no evidence she was ever administered Chloral Hydrate. Chloral Hydrate is not readily available. The police did search the house and found no evidence of Chloral Hydrate. Again this is the opinion of no clinical training, no clinical experience hissy fit.
"The day long party broke up precipitously when it was feared Police would likely be coming."
Again, the opinion of hissy fit.
"The observation on Crystal of a fluid assumed to semen be but not confirmed"
The failure to detect Alkaline Phosphatase on the rape kit definitively ruled out the presence of semen on crystal's person. If the rape crystal alleged had happened, Alkaline Phosphatase would have beendetected.
"and the subsequent finding of multiple DNA samples extracted from sperm was unexplained by Crystal's truthful consensual sexual history."
hissy fit has admitted that it can not be established that the DNA had been deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006, that it can not be established that the DNA had not beendeposited before the party.This is based on what hissy fit described as the time interval during which the DNA could have been deposited. The finding of male DNA on crystal which did match the DNA of those who were considered as suspects did not establish that a rape hd hapened on the night of 1/14 March 2006.
"Finally, the story told me by a J4N poster Kilgo that a Player friend told him he had seen Crystal being raped while impaired."
Kilgo used to post he knew more about thr case than anyone. After repeated challengesto reveal what he knew, which challenges he always ducked, kilgo disappeared from J4N and deleted all his posts.After kilgo disappeared, hissy fit came up with his anonymous rapist hypothesis. When challenged to provide proof, hissy fit said kilgo tod him of the anonymous Lacrosse player friend. hssy fit made that claim at a time when the claim could not be verified. That is strong circumstantial evidence hissy fit fabricated kilgo's anonymous friend.
So once again, hissy fit comes up with zero evidence crystal was raped.
hissy fit has yet t explain why nifong concealed the DNA evidence found on crystal rather than identify the men who had deposited it. hissy fit has offered two explanations, neither one of which are credible.
One is that nifong did not conceal the evidence. It has been a matter of public record for years that nifong had concealed the evidence. That says that nifong, himself, who hissy fit sayswas working for justice for crystal, did not believe the DNA came from any rapist, that no rape had happened.
The second is that nifong believed he could convict members of the Lacrosse team of sexual assault without DNA evidence. I say again, the sexual assault alleged by crystal was a gang rape in which multiple males, who did not use condoms, penetrated her and ejaculated on her, leaving DNA on her.
Which means hissy fit has zero evidence that crystal was raped.
Kenny,
You are trolling.
The best example of a "surrogate slandering" Crystal was Mike Nifong, who in explaining why unmatched DNA was found in Crystal's vagina and in Crystal's anus and in Crystal's underwear and on Crystal, noted that she had a young son.
Kenny stated: Finally, the story told me by a J4N poster Kilgo that a Player friend told him he had seen Crystal being raped while impaired.
Interesting. The story told me by a TalkLeft poster Newport that a Player friend told him he had seen Crystal being raped by Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan. That explains why Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan made no attempt to identify the DNA.
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Kenny,
This is exciting! I suggest that you fly to North Carolina and inform the Durham Police that you have finally identified the mystery rapists. Two pseudonymous posters with anonymous friends cannot possibly be wrong.
Finally, the story told me by a J4N poster Kilgo that a Player friend told him he had seen Crystal being raped while impaired."
Can you say, "double hearsay," boys and girls? I knew you could!
I hope you die in yield !!
Sid:
You have 178 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 7 days since the end of June, 75 days since April 23rd, 114 days since the Ides of March and 3,309 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sidney,
Are you excited? Kenny has finally identified the mystery rapists!
hissy fit:
You have come up with zero evidence that crystal told the truth about being raped.
Fernando,
Could you please explain yourself?
To the Anon. who spams this board with repeated typing of "Ken-ny": just stop it.
And to the "Rectumfinder": we got the joke the first time. Constant repetition isn't funny.
Thanks "A Lawyer" for responding to my July 5, 9:45 PM post. I hope others, who profess to be professionals, would also weigh in to discourage such juvenile behavior.
from hissy fit:
"Thanks "A Lawyer" for responding to my July 5, 9:45 PM post. I hope others, who profess to be professionals, would also weigh in to discourage such juvenile behavior."
So you consider your guilt presuming behavior towards the men who DID NOT rape crystal, who lied about being raped, to be professional, right?
You have provided zero evidence that crystal told the truth when she said she had been raped.
I actually thought "Rectumfinder" was a semi-clever pun on Dr. Harr's claim to be the "Rectifier," which is laughable because he has never succeeded at rectifying anything. But the joke has not improved through repetition. Mr. RF needs to find some new material.
Dr. Anonymous said: "The failure to detect Alkaline Phosphatase on the rape kit definitively ruled out the presence of semen on crystal's person. If the rape crystal alleged had happened, Alkaline Phosphatase would have beendetected."................Only if it had been done in a timely fashion. After an 8 hour interval this test is unreliable. That sperm was detected is axiomatic semen was present. http://caribbean.scielo.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0043-31442010000300010&lng=en
Dr. A said: "The money she had been prepaid on arrival was stolen from her purse."
That was never proven. She was paid the money for performing. She failed to perform, to fulfill her part of the contract. She never earned the money in the first place....................................................That would be a civil matter to be taken up with the Agency. Stealing the money from her purse while she was impaired is theft. By the way this money was never returned to Crystal and she had to pay her agency anyway.
more clap trap from hissy fit:
"That was never proven. She was paid the money for performing. She failed to perform, to fulfill her part of the contract. She never earned the money in the first place....................................................That would be a civil matter to be taken up with the Agency. Stealing the money from her purse while she was impaired is theft. By the way this money was never returned to Crystal and she had to pay her agency anyway."
hissy fit forgets, probably willfully, that it was a contract, crystal was paid for performing. She was too impaired to perform, and hissy fit has not made any case that she was unimpaired before the party. crystal did not fulfill her part of the contract. Ego, she was not entitled to the money. Idf it was in her purse, then,maybe, she was actually stealing it from the Lacrosse players.
Again, hissy fit, the inability to detect Chloral hydrate on a toxicology screen does not establish chloral hydrate was present.
A Lawyer misses one basic point. Every post on this blog is repetitive. Everyone, starting with Sid, has been posting the same crap for six or seven years now.
@ Dr. Anonymous 5:09 PM ................................ Let's see what the Lawyers have to say about your lay legal opinion.
Hey, Kenny, thought you'd like to read about Canada: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/07/canadian-judge-punching-a-caucasian-and-yelling-i-hate-white-people-isnt-a-hate-crime/
Sid:
You have 177 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 8 days since the end of June, 76 days since April 23rd, 115 days since the Ides of March and 3,310 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
more claptrap from hissy fit:
"@ Dr. Anonymous 5:09 PM ................................ Let's see what the Lawyers have to say about your lay legal opinion."
How about you as the lawyers what they think of your legal and medical opinions. A Lawyer has already weighed in on your "evidence" from kilgo about mystery rapists:
"Finally, the story told me by a J4N poster Kilgo that a Player friend told him he had seen Crystal being raped while impaired."
Can you say, "double hearsay," boys and girls? I knew you could!"
You have provided zero evidence that crystal told the truth when she sai she was raped.
guiowen:
"Hey, Kenny, thought you'd like to read about Canada: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/07/canadian-judge-punching-a-caucasian-and-yelling-i-hate-white-people-isnt-a-hate-crime/"
A Native American woman made an unprovoked attack on a white woman, screaming that she hated white people and knocking out her victim's tooth. The judge said the attack was not motivated by racism.
hissy fit tries to deny his attitudes on the Duke Rape Hoax are guilt presuming racism. It isobvious they are.
Kenhyderal wrote: " Let's see what the Lawyers have to say about your lay legal opinion."
As North Carolina has no statute of limitation on felonies, the state can prosecute at any time tit has evidence sufficient to establish probable cause. That they have not prosecuted, indicates an utter lack of probable cause.
As for civil relief, the statute of limitations in North Carolina is three years. Crystal could have filed a civil suit at any time from March 14, 2006 until March 14, 2009. Because the amount is too small, even if there was diversity jurisdiction, Crystal could not sue in federal court.
Thus, your complaints about allegedly stolen money are pointless. Crystal chose not to pursue the matter within the period of limitation. The state has no evidence.
Walt-in-Durham
hey hissy fit:
Have you asked any lawyers about the merit of certain claims you have made, that nifong did not conceal exculpatory evidence from the Lacrosse defendants, that nifong was justified in prosecuting the defendants for sexual assault without DNA evidence. I am aware you did not word it that way, but that is what you believed. I remind you again, crystal described a gang rape in which multiple males had penetrated her, ejaculated, and, thereby, left DNA.
more for hissy fit:
You obviously consider the male DNA found on crystal as evidence of a rape. You call the police investigation botched because no attempt was madeto identify who left their DNA on crystal.
So why have you not explained why nifong concealed the evidence rather than identify the the sources.
Some lawyers have weighed in on that issue. His concealment of the evidence was one of the acts of misconduct which led to nifong's disbarment. It also led to his conviction for criminal contempt of court.
Walt said: "Thus, your complaints about allegedly stolen money are pointless. Crystal chose not to pursue the matter within the period of limitation. The state has no evidence"..................So does the State get to keep the money? Crystal had made efforts to get it back and was told it was still evidence. Can she still get it or is it now forfeited? It also includes her purse and cell phone. You didn't answer the question, though. As Dr. Anonymous suggested; did the players who were unsatisfied with the performance have the right to remove the money paid to her from her purse?
Kenny,
Why do you believe that posters should respond to your questions when you regularly fail to answer questions posed to you?
John D. Smith
New York, NY
hissy fit continues his clap trap(subtract the letters lap t):
"Walt said: "Thus, your complaints about allegedly stolen money are pointless. Crystal chose not to pursue the matter within the period of limitation. The state has no evidence"..................So does the State get to keep the money? Crystal had made efforts to get it back and was told it was still evidence. Can she still get it or is it now forfeited? It also includes her purse and cell phone. You didn't answer the question, though. As Dr. Anonymous suggested; did the players who were unsatisfied with the performance have the right to remove the money paid to her from her purse?"
What was stated was, crystal did not fulfill her part of the contract, and that the presence of the money in her purse suggested she was the one committing theft, i.e. taking as her own money she had not earned, money to which she actually had no legal right.
hissy fit:
You obviously believe nifong was justified in concealing the DNA evidence. Isn't that just a tiny bit inconsistent with your claim that the police investigation had been botched?
more hissy fit clap trap:
"So does the State get to keep the money? Crystal had made efforts to get it back and was told it was still evidence."
Document her efforts to get the money back.
She may have claimed she had tried to get it back. Well, she also FALSELY claimed she had been raped.
You have provided zero evidence she ever told the truth about being raped.
more for hissy fit:
I a not surprised hissy fit tried to misrepresent what I said.
I pointed out to hm that nifong did conceal the DNA evidence found on crystal's person after the alleged rape. hissy fit tried to claim nifong did not conceal the evidence.
JSwift said: "Why do you believe that posters should respond to your questions when you regularly fail to answer questions posed to you?".............................Which question was that?
more clap trap from hissy fit:
"JSwift said: "Why do you believe that posters should respond to your questions when you regularly fail to answer questions posed to you?".............................Which question was that?"
One question you have steadfastly refused to answer is, why did nifong conceal the DNA evidence found on crystal rather than identify the men who left it. nifong did not conceal the evidence, nifong thought he could coonvict Lacrosse players of sexual assault without DNA, they are dodges, not answers. You have claimed that the DNA was evidence crystal was raped. So it behooves you to explain why nifong, who you say was seeking justice for crystal, concealed the evidence rather than identify the sources.
Dr. Anonymous said: "What was stated was, crystal did not fulfill her part of the contract, and that the presence of the money in her purse suggested she was the one committing theft, i.e. taking as her own money she had not earned, money to which she actually had no legal right".................................... Is this correct Walt? I believe it then became a civil matter between Dan Flannery a.k.a. Dan Flannigan with Crystal's Agency.
Kenny asks: Which question was that?
There are dozens of questions you have ignored. I do not intend to go back and identify them. However, I will note that you have been asked by another poster a question repeatedly on this thread, and you have repeatedly ignored it.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
My answer is that he did not conceal the evidence. He made the mistake of not identifying the DNA because he wrongly thought he had sufficient evidence to get a conviction on sexual assault against the three he charged
Kenny finally responds: My answer is that he did not conceal the evidence. He made the mistake of not identifying the DNA because he wrongly thought he had sufficient evidence to get a conviction on sexual assault against the three he charged.
And your superficial answer raises additional questions...
1. If he did not "conceal" the evidence, why was the presence of unmatched DNA not referenced in the report prepared by DNA Security as required by industry practice and state law? Arguably, the presence of the unmatched DNA was exculpatory evidence because it suggested that Magnum had either lied about her consensual sexual history or hd been raped by others. If so, did Nifong violate the defendants' constitutional rights? Is it ethical for a prosecutor to violate defendants' constitutional rights?
2. You suggest that Nifong was unethical in that he was focused only on obtaining a conviction and apparently uninterested in actually solving a crime, if one had occurred. After all, if your "mystery rapist" theory is correct, Nifong was focused on convicting the wrong g people and letting the actual perpetrators go free. Why is that ethical?
John D. Smith
New York, NY
Hey, A Lawyer, are you talking about me behind my back?
I'm the only one who goes behind peoples' backs! Because I am...
The Rectumfinder!!
more clap trap from kenny hissy fit:
"My answer is that he did not conceal the evidence. He made the mistake of not identifying the DNA because he wrongly thought he had sufficient evidence to get a conviction on sexual assault against the three he charged"
Those are not your answers but your dodges.
nifong did conceal the evidence.
You have stated that the DNA was evidence crystal had been raped by unidentified rapists at the party. So let's have you dodge again. Why did nifong make no attempt to identify the men who had left their DNA on crystal. Why did he charge 3 men who had not deposited their DNA on crystal.
And again I remind you, crystal, herself, described the alleged assault as a gang rape in which multiple males, not using condoms, had penetrated her and had ejaculated on her, leaving their DNA on her.
So here's another question for you to dodge. Why did nifong, who had a description of the alleged crime as an assault in which DNA had been left(in asking for the NTO, nifong's DA office said that DNA would identify the perpetrators and exonerate the innocent), try to convict men who had not left their DNA.
hissy fit, your dodges and ducks show you know zero about the alleged crime. That explains why you have come up with zero evidence that crystal told the truth.
Something else for hissy fit to dodge.
Post party, crystal left in Ki Robts/Pittman's car. Kimm Pittman/Roberts called 911 to complain while she and her girlfriend were either walking or driving past the party house, men at the party house shouted "n---er" at them.
Then she drove crystal not to a police station or to a hospital but to a Krogers Grocery store and tried to have a security guard forcibly remove crystal from her car.
Kim Roberts/Pittman who had been with crystal throughout the evening did not report a rape.
Kenhyderal wrote: ".So does the State get to keep the money? Crystal had made efforts to get it back and was told it was still evidence. Can she still get it or is it now forfeited? It also includes her purse and cell phone. You didn't answer the question,"
Actually I did. You just didn't read the answer, or didn't like it. Either way, I provided an answer to the question. It does not matter.
... "Is this correct Walt? I believe it then became a civil matter between Dan Flannery a.k.a. Dan Flannigan with Crystal's Agency."
Again, read my original answer, the statue of limitation answers your question. It would behoove you to read my answer for comprehension.
Wat-in-Durham
hissy fit, here is yet anpther question you will dodge:
In the ESPN documentary, Fantastic Lies, it was noted that crystal's cell phone records had been examined. During the time during which the alleged crime was allegedly happening crysta made a cell phone call, to the Escort agency for which she worked. Explain how crystal could have made such a call while she was allegedly trapped oin a small bathroom allegedly being gang raped?
here's another for you, hissy fit:
crystal did have her cell phone. There are photos showing no one was restraining crystal when she left the party, Why did crystal not call 911 to report a rape as soon as she left the party?
It hs been documented, crystal was taken to the Durham Access Center, to be involuntarily committed. A nurse asked her if she had been raped. That was the first time that night tat anyone mentioned rape.
Crude, puerile and ignorant but nary a word of censure from the anti-Crystal posters who profess sincerity and professionalism.
Crude, puerile and ignorant but nary a word of censure from the anti-Crystal posters who profess sincerity and professionalism.
If you don't quote the post you're responding to, or identify it in some way (e.g., by post time), no one has any way to know what post you are calling "crude, puerile and ignorant."
If I assume that you are talking about the post immediately above yours (anon. at 2:41 PM), I don't agree with your characterization-- that post has far more factual content than most posts on this board, and is not crude or puerile.
Along with Crystal's phone calls there were the cell phone records of other players and the time stamped photos which led AG Roy Cooper to conclude that there was no time in which an attack could have occurred nor was the bathroom big enough for a gang rape.Idiot Nifong would have realized this if he had done a proper investigation first before make race baiting inflammatory statements in the national media.
A lawyer,
The 6:00 comment was just some troll copying Kenhyderal's earlier comment.
Sid:
You have 176 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 9 days since the end of June, 77 days since April 23rd, 116 days since the Ides of March and 3,311 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Where is the little man kenhyderal?
are you serious?
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... never knew Duke was SO unprofessional as to run their business this way ... even creating their own little evil duke troll gang to terrorize anyone who questions them in any way ... even about Duke's malpractice that by law they are responsible for but aren't so ya have to read bout it in the media and on blogs and watch people put on trial and blamed for murder for the avoidable deadly malpractice that Duke themselves document in a medical record that is public information since its part of the murder trial they necessitated with their deadly and preventable malpractice
... whoda thunk
Dr. Harr,
The 4:47 post violates the kenhyderal doctrine. Please remove it.
Dr. Harr,
The 4;45 post also violates the kenhyderal doctrine.
It looks like Tinfoil got out of the asylum!
Walt said: "Again, read my original answer, the statue of limitation answers your question. It would behoove you to read my answer for comprehension"............... Let me rephrase the question, the Statute of Limitations aside, at the time McFadyen or Lamade removed the $400.00, prepaid to Crystal, from her purse on the pretext she didn't perform to their expectations and gave the money to Evans who in turn used $100.00 of it it to pay Flannery for winning a prize in a party game, was this technically theft?? Was their only recourse civil?? Are there not legal precedents that inform? 260.00 was recovered in a search warrant and never returned to Crystal. $40.00 remains unaccounted for but which I speculate McFadyen and Lamade may have kept 20.00 each
Kenny,
Are you going to answer my questions? Your superficial answer raised additional questions.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
more clap trap from kenny hissy fit:
"Walt said: "Again, read my original answer, the statue of limitation answers your question. It would behoove you to read my answer for comprehension"............... Let me rephrase the question, the Statute of Limitations aside, at the time McFadyen or Lamade removed the $400.00, prepaid to Crystal, from her purse on the pretext she didn't perform to their expectations and gave the money to Evans who in turn used $100.00 of it it to pay Flannery for winning a prize in a party game, was this technically theft?? Was their only recourse civil?? Are there not legal precedents that inform? 260.00 was recovered in a search warrant and never returned to Crystal. $40.00 remains unaccounted for but which I speculate McFadyen and Lamade may have kept 20.00 each".
hissy fit has repeatedly shown he is not intelligent to speculate meaningfully on anything.
I again cite his belief in mystery rapists.
He claims the male DNA found on crystal as evidence she was raped by mystery rapists at the Lacrosse party. When asked why nifong concealed the evidence he claimed nifong did not conceal the evidence. When asked why nifong did not trace the evidence back to the sources he said, nifong believed he had enough evidence to convict men, whose DNA did not match the DNA found on crystal, of sexual assault. Again, said "sexual assault" had been described as a gang ape in which the perpetrators had deposited their DNA.
After all that would anyone doubt that hissy fitis incredibly stupid?
Regarding the posts at 4:45 and 4:47:
harr or hissy fit or both posting anonymously again, to create the illusion that they have support.
my evil duke troll shadow is BACK!
hey
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Why should Kenny have to back up friggin' anything? This is a judicial case, and that should have been enough reason to not have repeated corrupted cases flowing from Duke point blank no questions asked. So stop trying to get Kenny or anyone else to prove to ya'll what the judicial system should be doing themselves in the first place. Seriously. You can watch the youtube video of the trial yourself if you are so truly interested in seeing how absurd that trial was. The second autopsy report withheld until the last day of the trial is proof of the outrage in and of itself.
You trolls need to get a grip and stop demanding these Duke related cases be tried in the news and courts or public opinion. That is not justice, and ya'll are fools to think that is in anyway the wise choice to make when the judicial system and public opinion are involved. Most of the public is not Duke driven nor do they appreciate all the corruption, lies, deceit, coverups, false prosecutions, media turmoil in lieu of a fair and reasonable court system, and the inability to receive equal and fair and uncompromised legal assistance as needed to even be part of a fair and reasonable court system if there was one.
So - why demand this blog be the court - or provide the Durham In-Wonderland KC lead whatever it is their doing gang anything. Get real.
sheeessshhhhh - this is seriously wholly ridiculous when viewed through the lens of what this evil duke troll gang from KC's blog is really doing.
Get real ...
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harr or hissy fit or both again posting anonymously to create the illusion they have support.
More about hissy fit.
It is a matter of public record that nifong got indictments against Reade Seligman, Colin Finnerty and David Evans for 1st degree rape, sexual assault and kidnapping in April of 2006. hissy fit claims nifong did not charge the innocent defendants with rape because he had no DNA evidence. In December of 2006, when someone from nifong's office did talk directly to crystal, she said she could not recall being penetrated, which is an essential element of rape in NC law. It was at that point that nifong dropped the rape charges/ DNA, or the lack thereof, had nothing to do with it.
I say again, if hissy fit did not know this, he was ignorant. If he did know this and still said nifong did not charge the innocent defendants with rape, then he was a liar.
The hissy fit explanation was, that because nifong dropped the rape charges in December of 2006, about 8 months after the innocent defendants were charged with rape, that meant that they were never charged with rape.
Again, does any one doubt that hissy fit is incredibly stupid?
Now, let's have some more anonymous harr/hissy fit impotent temper tantrums.
JSwift said: "Are you going to answer my questions? Your superficial answer raised additional questions"........................Former DA Nifong believed that the three accused were themselves guilty of at least sexual assault and would of had knowledge of the rape itself and who the actual perpetrators were. In that respect, they would have been accessories to the rape. Perhaps, he wanted to see if he could turn one against the other. He may of thought this would have been more efficient then trying to obtain DNA samples from clients of Crystal's Agency who would be unlikely to cooperate without specific warrants and cite client confidentiality. Those who witnessed the rape and who know who the perpetrators were themselves would be guilty of withholding evidence but DA Nifong's threats seemed hollow because such a charge is almost impossible to convict on. Hard to prove what one saw. As it was Kilgo's friend did admit privately what he observed. Both him and Kilgo were obviously later dissuaded either by fear, loyalty or maybe greed to shut up. Nothing was eventually withheld from the Player's Defence
more delusional clap trap from hissu fit{
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JSwift said: "Are you going to answer my questions? Your superficial answer raised additional questions"........................Former DA Nifong believed that the three accused were themselves guilty of at least sexual assault and would of had knowledge of the rape itself and who the actual perpetrators were."
Wrong. nifong knew there had been no rape. :He prosecuted anyway, for his own personal political gain.
"In that respect, they would have been accessories to the rape."
Since there was no rape, there were no accessories to rape.
"Perhaps, he wanted to see if he could turn one against the other. He may of thought this would have been more efficient then trying to obtain DNA samples from clients of Crystal's Agency who would be unlikely to cooperate without specific warrants and cite client confidentiality."
Again wrong. nifong knew identifying the men who had left their DNA on crystal would shot down his criminal scheme to prosecute innocent members of the Lacrosse team. So he concealed the evidence.
"Those who witnessed the rape and who know who the perpetrators were themselves would be guilty of withholding evidence but DA Nifong's threats seemed hollow because such a charge is almost impossible to convict on."
Since there was no rape there were no witnesses to the rape.
"Hard to prove what one saw. As it was Kilgo's friend did admit privately what he observed. Both him and Kilgo were obviously later dissuaded either by fear, loyalty or maybe greed to shut up."
Again, hissy fit came up with the anonymous rapists hypothesis after kilgo disappeared from J4N and took all his posts with him. When challenged to provide evidence of the mystery rapists, hissy fit said kilgo told him of his Lacrosse player friend who had witnessed the rape. It was an assertion which could not be verified. And since kilgo had already vanished when hissy fit made the assertion, hissy fit knew there was no way to verify or to not verify the assertion. That suggests very strongly that kilgo's anonymous Lacrosse player friend is a fabrication on the part of hissy fit. As A lawyer put it, can we say double hearsay, boys and girls.
"Nothing was eventually withheld from the Player's Defence".
Incorrect and invalid description of what happened. NC Law required that any information gathered via the NTO bre given to the subjects of the NTO as soon as the DA'soffice had it. Brian Meehan admitted under oath that he and nifong agreed not to report certain information to the defendants, that the only male DNA found on crystal did not match their DNA. The only reason the defense got the raw data, months after it was delivered to nifong, was the defense sought and got a court order that forced nifong to turn over the raw data. nifong did attempt to conceal evidence which was favorable to the defense, which adds up to concealment of exculpatory evidence.
hissy fit, do you realize how ridiculously stupid you make yourself look with your obviously contrived, deceptive answers to the issues which have been presented to you.
That's Kenny's story and he's sticking to it.
excerpt from hissy fit's latest round of clap trap:
"Perhaps, he wanted to see if he could turn one against the other. He may of thought this would have been more efficient then trying to obtain DNA samples from clients of Crystal's Agency who would be unlikely to cooperate without specific warrants and cite client confidentiality."
nifong could have sought and gotten a non testimonial order, just like his office got which compelled the Lacrosse players to give samples.
He did not because he suspected the DNA would match up with the DNA of men with whom crystal had contact before the party, with men who had not been at the party. nifong wanted yo prosecute members of the Lacrosse team.
Remember, nifong's ethical obligation as DA was to determine the truth, not get a conviction. He had an ethical obligation to determine who had left their DNA on crystal, and when they left it. Without that information,he could not presume a crime had happened on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
Kenny,
While I thank you for your response, it is still confusing what your opinion is. You seem to be answering from the perspective of Mike Nifong, and not that of Kenneth D. Edwards.
You seem to suggest that because Mike Nifong claimed that he "believed" that Crystal had been raped, he was justified in essentially doing whatever he wanted. You justify charging the defendants for crimes he knew they did not commit (he charged them with rape; not being accessories to rape) because he might be able to get them to turn on others. You justify violating state law and violating the constitutional rights of the defendants because, after making false statements to the court, Nifong eventually turned over the undisclosed DNA after a court ordered him to do so over his objections.
These actions seem unethical to me. I am surprised you accept this behavior.
You have stated that it is unethical for defense attorneys to attempt to discredit an accuser, even when they believe the accuser made false accusations. It seems odd that you believe when a prosector believes a defendant is guilty of something, he can do anything he wants with no ethical limitations, but a defense attorney who believes his client is innocent faces severe limitations. Moreover, you do not give Crystal's prosecutors unlimited discretion. Can you explain your apparent hypocrisy?
I have other detailed questions as well, but I want to you to focus on the hypocrisy aspect first. Thanks.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
Kenhyderal wrote: " Let me rephrase the question, the Statute of Limitations aside, at the time McFadyen or Lamade removed the $400.00, prepaid to Crystal, from her purse on the pretext she didn't perform to their expectations and gave the money to Evans who in turn used $100.00 of it it to pay Flannery for winning a prize in a party game, was this technically theft??"
You question, answers your own question. If, as you suppose there was a theft, then there is no statute of limitations and the money recovered is evidence. Thus, the police can retain it as evidence.
"Was their only recourse civil??"
Their? To whom are you referring?
"Are there not legal precedents that inform?"
As to what? You don't like to ask very clear questions.
"260.00 was recovered in a search warrant and never returned to Crystal. $40.00 remains unaccounted for but which I speculate McFadyen and Lamade may have kept 20.00 each."
That is your problem, you spend a lot of time speculating without any real foundation.
That's Kenny's story and he's sticking to it.
It is actually not Kenny's story. It is Mike Nifong's story. I wonder why he focuses on what Nifong may have thought?
John D. Smith
New York, NY
I have wondered if kenhyderal is a fabrication of harr. Maybe kenhyderal is actually a fabrication of Mike Nifong.
I have also wondered why Kenny reacted so harshly to the commenter who referenced Nifong's rationalization of the potential source of the unmatched male DNA and refused to criticize Nifong for what was a stupid statement.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
No JSwift it was because of the sickening innuendo that is simply meant to degrade Crystal. This has caused cruel harm to her and especially to her children
Why did Nifong make the statement? I thought it was incredibly stupid.
You also owe me answers to a couple of additional questions I asked in response to your earlier answer..
John D. Smith
New York, NY
So, is the Fong posting at this blog as kenhyderal?
Since Walt, like a typical Duke Lacrosse apologist can't bring himself to concede anything that might cast a bad light on the "angelic" Players I will try to convince Dr. Anonymous on the wrongness of his statement. He said "crystal did not fulfill her part of the contract. Ego, she was not entitled to the money. Idf it was in her purse, then,maybe, she was actually stealing it from the Lacrosse players"
As stated in the seventh edition of A Treatise on the Law of Crimes (Clark and Marshall),7th edition published in 1967 -Property Unlawfully Acquired or Possessed- "The fact that property has been acquired or is possessed unlawfully, or even criminally, does not deprive it of its character as property, or outlaw it, so as to withdraw it from the protection of the criminal law, and prevent it from being larceny to feloniously take and carry it away. It has been held from a very early day that property may be stolen from one who has himself stolen it, and that the indictment may lay the ownership in him. "I don't suppose Walt disagrees with this.
Kenny is keeping his google skills sharp.
Kenny,
I think that is the correct legal analysis. Even though Crystal did not fulfill her part of the contract, only dancing for a few minutes rather than two hours, the law generally does not permit "self-help" remedies. I would agree that probable cause may exist to pursue misdemeanor theft charges against several players . Nifong had suspect--Evans named them in his statement.
Why did Nifong not pursue charges against those players? He may have viewed the self-help as a mitigating factor and thought he might not get a conviction. Arguably, he could have used the misdemeanor charges to apply pressure on those accused of theft to turn on the mystery rapists. After all, the only evidence Nifong had were the inconsistent allegations fro Crystal and the identifications from an unreliable process. Why did Nifong not use this pressure?
You owe me answers to several other question I raised earlier. Must I repost them?
John D. Smith
New York, NY
more clap trap from hissy fit:
"Since Walt, like a typical Duke Lacrosse apologist can't bring himself to concede anything that might cast a bad light on the "angelic" Players I will try to convince Dr. Anonymous on the wrongness of his statement. He said "crystal did not fulfill her part of the contract. Ego, she was not entitled to the money. Idf it was in her purse, then,maybe, she was actually stealing it from the Lacrosse players"
You won't.
I?f she stole it from the players, she had no right to it, regardless of what your nearly 50 year old resource says.
Is tere a newer resource?
What would a newer resource say?
hissy fit, you have provided zero evidence that crystal told the truth that she was raped by members of the lacrosse team.
hissy fit, what is so angelic about a woman who falsely accuses innocent men f rape to avoid involuntary commitment for intoxication?
That is what happened after crystal was taken to the Durham access center.
So, is the Fong posting at this blog as kenhyderal?
that is not an unreasonable suggestion.
Kenny,
Are you planning to answer my questions?
John D. Smith
New York, NY
Kenny,
Are you the Fong?
the fong and hissy fit do have a coupe of things in common. Both say crystal had been raped at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006. Both have been able to provide zero evidence that crystal told the truth wheb she said she had been raped.
Sid:
You have 175 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 10 days since the end of June, 78 days since April 23rd, 117 days since the Ides of March and 3,312 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Funny that Kenny has refused to try to defend Sid and his recent lawsuits/failures (and neither he nor Sid will explain why the Statute of Limitations should not apply to Sid). He is now back to obsessing about a closed case - and still pretending that some anonymous comment to an anonymous poster - claiming to be from a lacrosse player who was there - is proof of a conspiracy.
I could easily say that I was there, and I saw it, and I know what happened. Doesn't make it true.
Kenny is becoming as sad and pathetic as Sid.
JSwift said: "You owe me answers to several other question I raised earlier. Must I repost them?".......................................... I owe you answers?? To my knowledge, I give you the answers that you ask for (demand). I can't help it if my answers don't fit into the Duke Lacrosse metanarrative causing you to consider them as non-answers. OK, list them and number them. I'm sure I've given you the answers already but hey I'll repeat them or provide you a reference to my previous answers
Anonymous said: "Are you the Fong"................... "I don't know the man" Did anyone hear a cock crow?
HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
Just wanted to let everyone know that I've just completed drafting my response to the Motion to Dismiss filed by D.A. Freeman's counsel (the AG's Office). All I need do is get the exhibits together and it will be filed tomorrow.
Once that is accomplished, I will catch up on comments and will begin a sharlog or two about what's been transpiring recently. As you know, the media is reticent about covering me.
Keep aware for breaking developments.
As you were.
Blogger kenhyderal said...
Anonymous said: "Are you the Fong"................... "I don't know the man" Did anyone hear a cock crow?
July 10, 2016 at 8:25 AM
That's Kenny's story and he's sticking to it.
more claptrap from hissy fit:
"JSwift said: "You owe me answers to several other question I raised earlier. Must I repost them?".......................................... I owe you answers?? To my knowledge, I give you the answers that you ask for (demand)."
No you haven't. You dodge giving answers
"I can't help it if my answers don't fit into the Duke Lacrosse metanarrative causing you to consider them as non-answers."
Except there was no metanarrative, just the revelations, that crystal lied about being raped, that nifong knowingly prosecuted innocent men for a crie he knew never happened, that he did it to further his political ambitions, that crystal was a convicted criminal before she became notorious as the false accuser in the Duke Rape hoax.
"OK, list them and number them. I'm sure I've given you the answers already but hey I'll repeat them or provide you a reference to my previous answers".
You haven't given any answers.You just try to promulgate the lie that crystal was raped.
You lso confirm you are either ignorant or you are a liar.
claptrap from harr:
"HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
Just wanted to let everyone know that I've just completed drafting my response to the Motion to Dismiss filed by D.A. Freeman's counsel (the AG's Office). All I need do is get the exhibits together and it will be filed tomorrow.
Once that is accomplished, I will catch up on comments and will begin a sharlog or two about what's been transpiring recently. As you know, the media is reticent about covering me.
Keep aware for breaking developments.
As you were."
harr does not have a case against DA Freeman. He wlll be slapped down angain, and will probably have further sanctions applied.
hissy fit says he answers questions. hissy fit lies.
hissy fit has repeatedly said that the police investigation was botched because the male DNA found on crystal was never traced back to its sources, that the men who had left their DNA were never identified, that these men were mystery rapists who had attended the Lacrosse party.
It has been pointed out to hissy fit, that it is a matter of established truth that nifong had custody of the evidence, and that nifong concealed the evidence. hissy fit has been asked why.
hissy fit responds that nifong did not conceal the evidence. hissy fit has further responded that nifong believed he could convict men, whose DNA did not match the DNA found on crystal of sexual assault without DNA evidence, willfully ignoring that crystal herself initially described the sexual assault as a gang rape in which multiple assailants not using condoms had penetrated her and ejaculated upon her. hissy fit also denied that nifong charged the Lacrosse defendants with rape, when it has been established as fact that nifong did charge the defendants with first degree rape.
hissy fit, denying obvious facts which have been part of the public record for years is responding to, not answering questions. It is you dodging and evading, because the inconsistencies in your version of the case are glaringly obvious.
harr does not have a case against DA Freeman.
He absolutely does not, as Walt and I have explained at length.
He will be slapped down again,
Without doubt.
and will probably have further sanctions applied.
Not certain, but certainly possible.
Dr. Anonymous said: " crystal herself initially described the sexual assault as a gang rape in which multiple assailants not using condoms had penetrated her and ejaculated upon her"...................................Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them. They are not outside observers clinically and dispassionately detailing what is happening. Those rape gang members who penetrated Crystal were not the three she identified in the botched Police photo line-up but unidentified non-Player party guests; probably well known to many if not most of the Players.
hissy fit dodging and evading again rather than addressing the issues:
"Dr. Anonymous said: " crystal herself initially described the sexual assault as a gang rape in which multiple assailants not using condoms had penetrated her and ejaculated upon her"...................................Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them. They are not outside observers clinically and dispassionately detailing what is happening."
If crystal could not tell reliably what happened to her, then her word was not enough to establish probable cause that a rape happened. I remind hissy fit that crystal, herself, when she was interviewed in December of 2006, said he could not recall being penetrated, which should have established her initial description as not credible. To establish probable cause there had to be evidence, findings on physical exam, DNA evidence. There was none. Yet nifong prosecuted anyway.
"Those rape gang members who penetrated Crystal were not the three she identified in the botched Police photo line-up"
And why was the botched photo lineup done? The botched photo lineup was done at the behest of nifong, because he had no evidence that crystal told the truth, and he wanted evidence so he could prosecute members of the Lacrosse team. He prosecuted Lacrosse team members, not because he wanted justice for crystal but because he was on his way to losing the election for DA, and he desperately wanted to win said election. hissy fit, explain how an improperly conducted lineup in which innocent men were identified as rapists, served the cause of justice.
"but unidentified non-Player party guests; probably well known to many if not most of the Players."
Again, there was no physical or forensic evidence crystal was raped. hissy fit came up with the mystery rapist hypothesis after kilgo disappeared from J4N and took all his posts with him. When challenged to provide evidence of mystery rapists, hissy fit claimed kilgo told him about a Lacrosse team member who witnessed a rape. As A Lawyer explained, that was double hearsay, not evidence. The fact that hissy fit came up with that hypothesis at a time when it could not be verified, suggests that hissy fit fabricated the story of kilgo's anonymous Lacrosse payer friend. ON j4N, someone challenged hissy fit to provide proof there were mystery rapists. hissy fit's response was, prove there were not, which was another example of hissy fit dodging and evading having to explain glaring inconsistencies in his view of the Duke Lacrosse Hoax.
Again, hissy fit, you have provided zero evidence crystal was raped.
Sid:
You have 174 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 11 days since the end of June, 79 days since April 23rd, 118 days since the Ides of March and 3,313 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Kenny states: Those rape gang members who penetrated Crystal were not the three she identified in the botched Police photo line-up but unidentified non-Player party guests.
The mystery rapists have been identified as Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan. Newport's anonymous player friend provided the identifications.
excerpt from hissy fit's clap trap:
"Those rape gang members who penetrated Crystal were not the three she identified in the botched Police photo line-up but unidentified non-Player party guests."
Why did crystal say in December 2006 she could not recall being penetrated.
The media isn't covering you because you aren't news. You are one of hundreds of crackpots who files frivolous lawsuits.
I'm sure your response to the Motion to Dismiss will be the same crap you've been spewing about the case, and you won't provide any legal basis for denying it - so that case will be tossed soon, and you will be sanctioned.
Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them. They are not outside observers clinically and dispassionately detailing what is happening. Those rape gang members who penetrated Crystal were not the three she identified in the botched Police photo line-up but unidentified non-Player party guests; probably well known to many if not most of the Players.
Kenny - you keep saying that, but your only proof is someone who posted on this blog and told you he had heard it. Are you really that pathetically desperate for validation of your delusions that you don't realize people lie, and play along? Look at the folks here - John D. Smith is a fake name, Abe Froman is fake - Kilgo was fake.
Crystal wasn't raped - something happened there, but it wasn't rape. And, the fact that by your own admission she identified (with 100 percent certainty) 3 people who did not do anything to her destroys any credibility she would have if they ever did try to say someone else did it. You claim that's not her fault, and maybe not, but it's the truth - for all you adore Nifong, he f*cked this case up, and so even if an actual rape occurred, and even if they could allegedly identify someone else, a conviction is not possible. Nifong guaranteed that.
Kenneth D. Edwards is also a fake name.
hissy fit, why do you find it so gratifying to believe crystal was raped?
I again remind you, you have provided zero evidence that crystal told the truth about being raped.
hissy fit, your story of kilgo's anonymous Lacrosse player friend sounds like somethingyou fabricated, to support your claim about mystery rapists.
You yourself admit you can not prove kilgo ever told you that.
And again, as A Lawyer has said, it is doube hearsay, not evidence.
"Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them"
Where, exactly, does this "fact" come from?
Thanks to Newport's anonymous source, the identities of the mystery rapists are no longer a mystery.
excerpt from hissy fit's claptrap:
"Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them"
Totally irrelevant to the Duke Rape Hoax since it has been proven that crystal was never raped.
Also, hissy fit says, without realizing it, that crystal could not have been raped, because she was did give a description of what happened to her. According to hissy fit, if she had been raped, she could ot have given such a description.
Now we know why no one has ever given hissy fit credit for intelligence, except hissy fit himself
Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them
All the more reason that it was unethical for Nifong to rely on Mangum's identification of her alleged assailants without corroborating DNA evidence.
Just wanted to let everyone know that I've just completed drafting my response to the Motion to Dismiss filed by D.A. Freeman's counsel (the AG's Office). All I need do is get the exhibits together and it will be filed tomorrow.
Dr. Harr, please file a copy of your response here so we can discuss it.
As you know, the media is reticent about covering me.
WRAL.com covered your recent court decision in the Harr III case.
Dr. Anonymous said: "Also, hissy fit says, without realizing it, that crystal could not have been raped, because she (was)sic did give a description of what happened to her. According to hissy fit, if she had been raped, she could ot have given such a description. Now we know why no one has ever given hissy fit credit for intelligence, except hissy fit himself......................................... I'll let readers judge the "intelligence" of this post by Dr. Anonymous.
I agree. Dr. Anonymous' posts insult my intelligence almost as much as do yours.
Kenny,
Are you excited that your mystery rapist theory has been confirmed and that the mystery rapists have been identified?
hissy fit's latest claptrap:
"Dr. Anonymous said: "Also, hissy fit says, without realizing it, that crystal could not have been raped, because she (was)sic did give a description of what happened to her. According to hissy fit, if she had been raped, she could ot have given such a description. Now we know why no one has ever given hissy fit credit for intelligence, except hissy fit himself......................................... I'll let readers judge the "intelligence" of this post by Dr. Anonymous."
hissy fit throws another impotent temper tantrum to dodge an issue he does not want to address and to cover up his lack of intelligence.
hissy fit continues to provide zero evidence that crystal told the truth when she claimed she was raped.
hissy fit:
Why do you get such gratification from believing crystal had been raped?
"Anonymous said...
I agree. Dr. Anonymous' posts insult my intelligence almost as much as do yours.
July 11, 2016 at 1:26 PM"
Presumes facts not in evidence, that you two are intelligent.
No. You try too hard. Harr is clearly an idiot and Kenny a troll, but many of your far too numerous comments add nothing to the discussion (the 1:57 comment is an example).
Yes it did.
Dr. Anonymous:
You appear to be unable to accept criticism. Your comment to which Kenny referred and the anonymous poster objected was poorly phrased.
Let's examine your comment: Also, hissy fit says, without realizing it, that crystal could not have been raped, because she was did give a description of what happened to her. According to hissy fit, if she had been raped, she could ot have given such a description.
Kenny's comment has some validity, not that real rape victims don't "tell" (or try to tell) what happened to them, but that they are "not outside observers clinically and dispassionately detailing what is happening" to them. They make mistakes. The counterpoint was not that Mangum could not have been a victim because she provided an account of what she claimed had happened, but that Nifong was egregiously unethical in pursuing a prosecution based on Mangum's contradictory and inconsistent account and unreliable "identifications" with no other evidence, particularly when he chose not to make an attempt to identify the unmatched DNA. A Lawyer made this point concisely. Kenny seems to express the opinion that because Nifong "believed" Mangum had been raped, he was justified in all sorts of unethical behavior to which Kenny objects in any other circumstance.
It is clear that Kenny doesn't actually believe the ridiculous things he posts. He is a troll, and for whatever reason thrives when his posts annoy others. Your reactions (and mine) to his inane posts give him the "victories" he cherishes. Kenny has no interest in engaging in an honest conversation. He seeks only to make inane posts to annoy other posters, refuses to engage in a real dialogue in defending his opinions, has no interest in convincing anyone, and smugly disparages others of upholding a metanarrative when they note that his opinions are preposterous and lack all support.
I have come to the conclusion that we should all ignore Kenny. On the other hand, occasional mockery can be enjoyable.
John D. Smith
New York, NY
A lwyer:
"He seeks only to make inane posts to annoy other posters"
I disagree.He tries to pass himself off as intelligent. He fails utterly.
Fake KH said: ""Victims of a brutal gang rape cant really tell what's happening to them" "Where, exactly, does this "fact" come from".................. Not fact but an informed opinion made by Tara Levicy as quoted by Wm. Cohan in The Price of Silence pp 31
Ah....so, a SANE nurse in training with only a few months experience as an RN is considered "informed opinion", but Walt and A Lawyer's opinions really don't matter to you.
@ JSwift. The victory I seek is the vindication of Crystal. I know Crystal and I believe in her. I will stand up for her whenever she is slandered. She is a victim of those who took advantage of her vulnerability. She is a victim of the disgraceful American Justice System. She is a victim of greedy unethical trial Lawyers and their privileged clients. Nobody makes more inane posts then Dr. Anonymous but because he is on the side of those who wish to destroy Crystal he gets a pass. You throw the epithet troll a tme but ignore the real trolls this blog is rife with. Mock on " Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker; he who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished"......Proverbs 17-5
Fake KH said: "Ah....so, a SANE nurse in training with only a few months experience as an RN is considered "informed opinion", but Walt and A Lawyer's opinions really don't matter to you" .....................................Yes, especially Tara Levicy whose advocacy for women proceeded her nurse training. I'm sure Walt and a Lawyer would concede Tara knows more about the forensics of rape then either of them even before she completed her S.A.N.E. qualifications
Kenny claims: The victory I seek is the vindication of Crystal.
When are you planning to do something productive to achieve that goal?
John D. Smith
New York, NY
A degree in "women's studies", a 15 month RN program (really!) and directing a production of The Vagina Monologues does not make anyone an expert in the forensics of rape.
That you would even consider that it does states volumes about you.
Kenny - Here's an actual expert opinion regarding Tara Levicy's exam:
"I am a board certified emergency physician and have been director of emergency services and worked in our current emergency department for over 31 years, having seen over 150,000 emergency patients, including a large number "alleged" sexual assaults. Only the courts can render a verdict of rape.
Tracy Levicy’s comment that she had never (in all of 8 months) seen an alleged rape victim “lie” about rape reminds me of overhearing a young Paramedic once state that he had never had difficulty intubating a patient. I responded to the Paramedic, “Well, then you haven’t attempted intubation very many times.”
In the rape exam the alleged victim is best served by having the most experienced examiners, particularly since this is a legal exam and the findings and documentation can have extremely serious consequences for anyone accused of sexual assault. This rape hoax case is probably unique in that an apparently substandard and biased exam initiated false charges in and of itself, which is very unusual. The most likely consequence of a poor exam is that a truly guilty party may not be able to be successfully prosecuted.
The physician’s first responsibility to the alleged victim of a sexual assault is addressing any physical, medical, and mental health issues of the patient. The rest is meticulous evidence gathering and documentation. The physician is not the policeman or the prosecutor. The actual determination of sexual assault is made in the court room not at the exam table.
It appears that Ms. Levicy misrepresented her role in this exam and worse yet, replaced simple clinical observation and evidence gathering with unsubstantiated subjective opinions. This poses significant liability problems for her and her employer."
Kenhyderal,
We don't mock the poor; we mock you.
Nobody here is glad at calamity. In Crystal's case, my main hope is that she'll learn some worthwhile occupation while in prison. She'll need it when she gets out.
And the injustice done to in Crystal by the North Carolina Justice System is a calamity of the first order. Forgive me if I have a hard time in believing your concern for Crystal is genuine. Crystal is an innocent person wrongly convicted. The so-called hopes you express for her seem to make the assumption that she is need of rehabilitation. Crystal is a kind and talented woman, a good mother and a good Christian. She has much to contribute to society and when she is vindicated this will happen.
@ Fake KH Could yo provide us with the name of that Board Certified Emergency Physician you quoted.
Sid:
You have 173 days to exonerate and free Mangum.
It has been 12 days since the end of June, 80 days since April 23rd, 119 days since the Ides of March and 3,314 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Sid:
On June 28, in response to an anonymous comment, you posted the following:
"Regarding news on Crystal, it's coming over the horizon... and it is no mirage. I expect that you will be enlightened within a matter of a few days or a couple of weeks, at the most."
It has been two weeks since your June 28th post. Do you have any news and enlightenment on Mangum's situation, or was this just another one of your empty boasts?
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
JSwift said...
"Dr. Anonymous:
You appear to be unable to accept criticism. Your comment to which Kenny referred and the anonymous poster objected was poorly phrased."
Your criticism doesn't bother me.
claptrap from hissy fit:
"@ JSwift. The victory I seek is the vindication of Crystal. I know Crystal and I believe in her. I will stand up for her whenever she is slandered."
Except no one ever slandered crystal. Exposing the truth, that she lied about being raped, that she was a convicted criminal before she lied about the Lacrosse players raping hee, is not slander. Prove she told the truth about being raped. So far you have provided zero evidence.
"She is a victim of those who took advantage of her vulnerability. She is a victim of the disgraceful American Justice System. She is a victim of greedy unethical trial Lawyers and their privileged clients."
She is a victim of nothing but her own poor choices.
"Nobody makes more inane posts then Dr. Anonymous but because he is on the side of those who wish to destroy Crystal he gets a pass."
hissy fit throws an impotent temper tantrum because the inconsistencies and contradictions of his mystery rapist delusion have been exposed.
"You throw the epithet troll a tme but ignore the real trolls this blog is rife with. Mock on " Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker; he who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished"......Proverbs 17-5"
Even the devil can quote scritpure to his own advantage. That is not biblical but it is true.
claptrap from hissy fit:
"Fake KH said: "Ah....so, a SANE nurse in training with only a few months experience as an RN is considered "informed opinion", but Walt and A Lawyer's opinions really don't matter to you" .....................................Yes, especially Tara Levicy whose advocacy for women proceeded her nurse training. I'm sure Walt and a Lawyer would concede Tara knows more about the forensics of rape then either of them even before she completed her S.A.N.E. qualifications".
As fake KH has pointed out, most people who go into nursing do more a ot mre training than levicy did.
So far as her understanding the forensics of rape, she doid not. It wasevicy, wy all accounts, who was responsible for documenting that crystal had injuries consistent with rape.
A SANE is supposed to document, objectively, specific injuries, not render legal opinions. That crystal had injuries consistent with rape is redering a legal opinion.
Suppose there had been a trial and levicy rendered that opinion on the stand for the prosecution. The defense would have asked her, what were those injuries. Suppose Levicy responded with a list of injuries, the defense would have asked, where are those injuries documented on the medical record. levicy would have had to respond that those injuries were not recorded in the record. Then the defense would have referred to documentation of what a SANE was supposed to do, specifically document specific injuries and then asked levicy if that was indeed what a SANE was supposed to do. levicy would have had to answer yes. Then levicy's credibility as a SANE and the prosecution's case would have been out the proverbial window(not that the prosecutionn's case ever passed through any window in the first place).
levicy documented she did not understand at all the forensics of rape.
And hissy fit has another contradiction and inconsistency to duck.
claptrap from hissy fit:
"And the injustice done to in Crystal by the North Carolina Justice System is a calamity of the first order. Forgive me if I have a hard time in believing your concern for Crystal is genuine. Crystal is an innocent person wrongly convicted. The so-called hopes you express for her seem to make the assumption that she is need of rehabilitation. Crystal is a kind and talented woman, a good mother and a good Christian. She has much to contribute to society and when she is vindicated this will happen."
A kind Christian woman does not lie about being raped in order to avoid involuntary commitment for intoxication.
A kind christian woman does not kill people.
A kind christian woman does not steal a cab while under the influence of liquor, lead police on a wild chase, and then try to run down a police officer. This bit of history comes from police records compiled years before crystal ied about being raped. It was not something dreamed up by the defense attorneys.
hissy fit, you have a distinct hard time believung facts about crystal. What kind of gratification d you get from believing shewas raped.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid:
On June 28, in response to an anonymous comment, you posted the following:
"Regarding news on Crystal, it's coming over the horizon... and it is no mirage. I expect that you will be enlightened within a matter of a few days or a couple of weeks, at the most."
It has been two weeks since your June 28th post. Do you have any news and enlightenment on Mangum's situation, or was this just another one of your empty boasts?
Abe Froman
Chicago, IL
Hey, Abe.
No, it wasn't an empty boast. As you know, the Mangum-haters are a powerful and well-financed group. For all intents and purposes, I am a David going against a huge Goliath. Now, I do tend to give the opposition more credit than I possibly should, for having the common sense to do the practical thing and submit... however, their response has been to dig in against the inevitable justice that will soon free and clear Crystal Mangum.
Part of my strategy has been a long-overdue lawsuit against D.A. Lorrin Freeman. Yesterday I filed my brief in response to its Motion to Dismiss. I will see what the Magistrate recommends. It appears as though a George W. Bush appointee has been the presiding judge set for my case, so clearly that does not bode well for me. (Obviously some judge-shopping.)
There are other actions I have taken and will be taking soon that will hopefully expedite the inevitable. Stay tuned. I will try to have some new postings to the blog site.
(By the way, did you see the online article on WRAL News about Judge Eagles "chastising" me?)
Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Just wanted to let everyone know that I've just completed drafting my response to the Motion to Dismiss filed by D.A. Freeman's counsel (the AG's Office). All I need do is get the exhibits together and it will be filed tomorrow.
Dr. Harr, please file a copy of your response here so we can discuss it.
As you know, the media is reticent about covering me.
WRAL.com covered your recent court decision in the Harr III case.
Hey, A Lawyer.
Yes, WRAL did do an online post, and even ran a story on the 5:30 p.m. news, which wasn't too bad. But really, the only reason it did so was to take a jab at me. I think WRAL and its parent company Capitol Broadcasting Company have an intense dislike for me. Consider, for example that the negative article recently posted is the first document in the mainstream media about my 2011 discrimination lawsuit about an incident that occurred in April 2010. There are many problems with that online article, about which I will outline in my next posting... hopefully it will be uploaded for viewing around the coming weekend.
Question: Do you believe every in that online article?
Anonymous A Lawyer said...
harr does not have a case against DA Freeman.
He absolutely does not, as Walt and I have explained at length.
He will be slapped down again,
Without doubt.
and will probably have further sanctions applied.
Not certain, but certainly possible.
Hah. A Lawyer, Shirley you jest. Sanctions against moi? For what? Filing a lawsuit? On what grounds would such a sanction be based? No doubt you have allowed fantasy to cloud your reality.
It'll never happen.
clap trap from harr:
"Hah. A Lawyer, Shirley you jest. Sanctions against moi? For what? Filing a lawsuit?"
For filing a frivolous, non meritorious lawsuit, the latest in a series of frivolous, non meritotious lawsuits.
"On what grounds would such a sanction be based?"
See above
"No doubt you have allowed fantasy to cloud your reality."
This from harr the delusional megalomaniac.
"It'll never happen."
That is what you said about crystal going to trial for the murder of Reginald Daye.
Anonymous at 2:27 AM wrote: "She [Crystal] is a victim of nothing but her own poor choices."
An excellent summary of the situation.
Walt-in-Durham
Kenny- I'll provide the name of the doctor when you provide your actual information and not the persona you created specifically for this blog.
harr the hypocritical fabricator is in the act of deleting comments he does not like. This is from a comment he deleted earlier
"Hey, Abe.
No, it wasn't an empty boast(that crystal's conviction would be overturned and crystal would be released)."
lharr has been making that promise for years and so far his promises have come up empty
"As you know, the Mangum-haters are a powerful and well-financed group."
Thaere are no mangum haters. People have exposed that crystal lied about bring raped(harr says no one has proven crystal lied. he harr forgets that it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that crystal told the truth and there is zero evidence she did). Teling the truth is not hatred. Lying nd accusing innocent men of a rape which never happened, that is hateful.
"For all intents and purposes, I am a David going against a huge Goliath."
No, harr is a deluded megalomaniac.
"Now, I do tend to give the opposition more credit than I possibly should, for having the common sense to do the practical thing and submit... however, their response has been to dig in against the inevitable justice that will soon free and clear Crystal Mangum."
crystal receivedcjustice when she was convicted for the murder Of Reginald Daye. Again, harr has been promising for years that crystal would be freed. Has harr delivered? No.
"Part of my strategy has been a long-overdue lawsuit against D.A. Lorrin Freeman."
ttorney.You mean a frivolous non meritorious suit fid just to harrass a District
"Yesterday I filed my brief in response to its Motion to Dismiss. I will see what the Magistrate recommends."
We know what the magistrate will recommend, that the suit be dismissed and you be sanctioned for filing it.
"It appears as though a George W. Bush appointee has been the presiding judge set for my case, so clearly that does not bode well for me. (Obviously some judge-shopping.)"
harr trying to institute personal posterior cmmouflage because he knows his suit will be dismissed and he will be sanctioned,
"There are other actions I have taken and will be taking soon that will hopefully expedite the inevitable. Stay tuned. I will try to have some new postings to the blog site."
harr making more empty promises.
from harr:
"(By the way, did you see the online article on WRAL News about Judge Eagles "chastising" me?)"
The only inaccuracy in that story is that it referred to harr as a retired physician.
harr is a minimally trained, minimally experienced medical school graduate who was never accepted into residency training, who never achieved medical specialty board certification, and who spent a truncated medical career(graduate in 1974, retired in 1991) filing and losing astring of frivolous, non meritorious lawsuits, not practicing medicine. hissy fit has called harrr a distinguished former physician. What distinguished harr fromm other physicians is that he wasted all the time and effort that went into his medical education and devoted himself not to helping others but to trying to exploit the legal system to make himself rich.
more from harr:
"Yes, WRAL did do an online post, and even ran a story on the 5:30 p.m. news, which wasn't too bad. But really, the only reason it did so was to take a jab at me. I think WRAL and its parent company Capitol Broadcasting Company have an intense dislike for me. Consider, for example that the negative article recently posted is the first document in the mainstream media about my 2011 discrimination lawsuit about an incident that occurred in April 2010. There are many problems with that online article, about which I will outline in my next posting... hopefully it will be uploaded for viewing around the coming weekend."
harr's so called discrimination lawsuit was not a discrimination lawsuit but just one of many frivolous, non meritorious lawsuis he has filed. harr violated Duke's non solicitation policy. He was told to stop. He picked a fight with a security guard. Then he tried to dragoon Professor JNames Coleman into intervening for him. harr cites the audio of the incident he posted.That audio clearly documented. harr was out of line.
Except the lawsuit against Freeman, as has been repeatedly explained to you, can have no effect on Mangum. If that is part of your strategy it's a pathetic and useless waste of time.
Fake KH said:,
"Kenny- I'll provide the name of the doctor when you provide your actual information and not the persona you created specifically for this blog"............... Does anybody else see the irony here? So, what information would you like? My date of birth, my social security number, my postal address, my e-mail address, my phone number?
"Crystal is a kind and talented woman,..."
Kenny what is her talent?
Kenny -- As has been pointed out previously, there is no "Ken Edwards" meeting the description you have provided outside of this blog. No social media accounts exist.
Rather unique in this day and age, don't you think?
So -- your address and your phone number will suffice. I'll call you (or perhaps even drop by ) and we can discuss the input from our ER physician.
What (other than referring to Tara Levicy as "Tracy Levicy") do you think our unnamed ER physician got wrong in his assessment?
Fake KH said: : "No social media accounts exist"...............Yes they do. If you prefer private communication with me Dr. Harr, with my permission, can provide you with my e-mail address
Guiowen said: (probably sarcastically) "Kenny, what is her talent"................By virtue of her innate talent, brains, beauty and personality rising above her humble circumstances, despite many disadvantages and hardships was determined make a better life for herself and her children.
That's just it, isn't it Kenny? You can create an email address for your fake persona at any of a number of sites -- you did it for yahoo just to ask a question about blood alcohol content.
So provide the phone number and street address (you asked what information I would like), and I'll contact you directly.
You could also posts links to your social media accounts. I'll accept them in lieu of your phone number/address.
Crusty's talent?
Pole dancing. Just be sure to wash the pole afterward.
...And false rape charges.
...And committing felonies.
clap trap from hissy fit:
"Guiowen said: (probably sarcastically) "Kenny, what is her talent"................By virtue of her innate talent, brains, beauty and personality rising above her humble circumstances, despite many disadvantages and hardships was determined make a better life for herself and her children."
In spite all the qualities you cite(and, as is your wont you provide no documentation( crystal has not risen to great heights.
Stealing a car(nd that was documented in police records generated prior to the night of 13/14 March 2006), falsely accusing innocent men of rape to avoid involuntary commitment for detox(you have provided zero evidence she told te truth), threatening to kill another man(Milton Walker), actually killing a man, that is not exactly rising to great heights.
I am responding in one post to several of Dr. Harr's posts from earlier today:
Hah. A Lawyer, Shirley you jest. Sanctions against moi? For what? Filing a lawsuit?
Filing a frivolous lawsuit, in violation of Rule 11(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
On what grounds would such a sanction be based?
Rule 11(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
No doubt you have allowed fantasy to cloud your reality.
Let's wait and see.
It'll never happen.
You've been sanctioned twice already in federal court, once within the past month. Think it can't happen again?
Having said all that, I have no predicted that you will be sanctioned in the latest suit, only that you might be. My hesitation is because the defense has not moved for sanctions. If they do, the motion will almost certainly be granted. Sanctions ordered by the judge without the defendants' request are possible (Federal Rule of Civil procedure 11[c][3]), but rather uncommon.
t appears as though a George W. Bush appointee has been the presiding judge set for my case, so clearly that does not bode well for me. (Obviously some judge-shopping.)
Judges in federal court are selected randomly. Do you have evidence that there was "judge-shopping"? I didn't think so.
Besides, Judge Eagles was appointed by President Obama. She didn't buy your nonsense either.
Question: Do you believe every in that online article?
You haven't pointed to anything false, and the article's description of Judge Eagles' order was an accurate summary of the order issued by the Court, so I am tentatively believing it until and unless someone can demonstrate a falsity in it.
from hissy fit:
"Fake KH said: : "No social media accounts exist"...............Yes they do. If you prefer private communication with me Dr. Harr, with my permission, can provide you with my e-mail address"
Why can't you? Because hissy fit is a fabrication fashioned by harr, to create the illusion he has support?
Kenny,
I'm wiling to admit she's good looking. If she has any brains, or talent, she hasn't displayed them. She's certainly not making a better life for herself, or for her children.
Well friends, Sid has indeed filed his brief in response to the motion to dismiss his lawsuit in the Eastern District. You can read it at my blog: https://walt-in-durham.blogspot.com/2016/06/freeman-files-motion-to-dismiss.html?showComment=1468349706427#c8631305239577888468
The link to Sid's frivolous response is in the comments. And, frivolous it is.
Walt-in-Durham
Guiown wrote at 11:16 AM: I'm wiling to admit she's good looking. If she has any brains, or talent, she hasn't displayed them. She's certainly not making a better life for herself, or for her children."
Another excellent summary. Well said sir, well said.
Walt-in-Durham
The link to Sid's frivolous response is in the comments. And, frivolous it is.
Frivolous, indeed. As I posted way up above, "ignoring Sidney Harr" is not a recognized cause of action.
"Visiting Crystal Mangum in prison" is not going to be recognized as a sound reason for granting 3rd-party standing, either.\
Maybe Sid can get his good friend Kenhyderal to look up 3rd-party standing on Wikipedia and share it.
Fake KH said: "That's just it, isn't it Kenny? You can create an email address for your fake persona at any of a number of sites -- you did it for yahoo just to ask a question about blood alcohol content. So provide the phone number and street address (you asked what information I would like), and I'll contact you directly.
You could also posts links to your social media accounts. I'll accept them in lieu of your phone number/address".......... So, your motive isn't to contact me personally since I have given you a way to do that. Obviously you have some other motive. Tell me what that is. I have had the same e-mail address since 2003. If the reason is legitimate then I will be happy to e-mail you my phone number.
In Sid's first page he notes that the DA is only responsible for their own judicial district. Durham is not in Freeman's district - so Sid admits from the beginning that his case is frivolous.
Sidney,
Interesting response. I doubt it will go anywhere, but I guess stranger things have happened.
Let's just hope they don't make you pay another $650.
harr says he doesn't make empty promises.
No Kenny -- You attempted an ad hominem argument by asking for the credentials of the ED Physician I quoted, rather than arguing against the quote itself.
I will provide you with those credentials -- when you prove yourself to be a real person. Post your phone number and address, and (depending on your location), I will either call you or meet you in person to further discuss the ED Physician's statement.
Sidney's response"
"On Tuesday. July 5, 2016, (one day before MANGUM's filing deadline for a Motion for Appropriate Relief with the Federal Court), a friend of a friend of PLAINTIFF, who had proper state identification and had no orders preventing him from filing in the Middle District Federal Court, attempted to file MANGUM's Motion for Appropriate Relief (hereinafter "MAR"). The clerks in that office refused to file them, giving no reason. Instead, the employees there affixed a
piece of paper to two copies of the MAR which were stamped that they were received on July 5, 2016. The stamps were not initialed. (See EXHIBIT H) The clerks retained a third copy of the document at the urging of PLAINTIFF's friend of a friend."
Wonder who drafted this? Sidney can you post EXHIBIT H?
harrr has tried to explain away his wasted medical career by claiming that God had other plans for him. Whatever those plans might be, it certainly was not to be an advocate, considering his miserable record as an advocate.
Fake KH said: "You attempted an ad hominem argument by asking for the credentials of the ED Physician I quoted, rather than arguing against the quote itself......... Huh? How is asking the identity of your source an attempt at an ad hominem argument? Is this not blatant projection. You question my identity. Crystal knows me. Dr. Harr knows me. They have my information Why do you want to access my social media and why do you want to obtain my personal information? Are you a friend of Rae Evans?
another impotent temper tantrum from hissy fit.
Here I'll note again, you have not addressed the substance of the quote I provided. Why is that?
time for some more harr/hissy fit/kilgo anonymous posts.
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