Sunday, June 5, 2016

Harr v. Freeman: Brief and evidence

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Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
More than 24 hours since harr said he would post his next sharlog and still no sharlog. Again, why am I not turprised?


Sorry about the delay. I sometimes get sidetracked with involvement in activities that will help lead to Crystal's exoneration and freedom. Naturally, such work takes priority over enlightening visitors to the site.

Anonymous said...

You know this lawsuit cannot result in Crystal's exoneration, no matter what the Judge thinks - correct? I assume this isn't your grand plan. If it is, it has already failed.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous A Lawyer said...
If Mangum is not exonerated by June 30'will you admit you are a fraud and go away?

She won't, and he won't.


Sometime in June of this year is what I'm shooting for... however my success depends largely on the ethics and conscientious of others. Freeing and exonerating Mangum is not something I can do alone... if it were she would have never spent a day in jail. As it is, I am trying to reason with vendetta-seekers... quite challenging.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid:

Have you told Mangum about her imminent release? If so, what was her reaction? If not, why not?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL


What I told Crystal was that I thought that her chances for a release soon, hopefully in June, were good. And I still feel that way. Crystal knows what I'm up against and doesn't take it for granted... but she views things optimistically -- in large measure because she knows that she's innocent.

Anonymous said...

more claptrap from harr:

"Anonymous A Lawyer said...
If Mangum is not exonerated by June 30'will you admit you are a fraud and go away?

She won't, and he won't.


Sometime in June of this year is what I'm shooting for... however my success depends largely on the ethics and conscientious of others. Freeing and exonerating Mangum is not something I can do alone... if it were she would have never spent a day in jail. As it is, I am trying to reason with vendetta-seekers... quite challenging."

Significance: harr is waffling again.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Give whites a pile of bricks and they will build a city.Give blacks a city and they will turn it into a pile of bricks.


gui, mon ami, and Walt, thank you for rebuking the racist dribble of the above commenter. I believe that most of the commenters to this site, even my detractors and Mangum/Nifong detractors, share in our distaste of such inflammatory statements.

Anonymous said...

Does this require flash?

Anonymous said...

I re-installed flash on both my laptop and desktop, and it still doesn't open. Is there anything new?

Anonymous said...

Harr, this sharlog is but anther iteration of the clap trap you have been pushing for years, mis stating facts, presuming facts whch are not in evidence. you have offered nothing new.

Anonymous said...

I bet he bleats about felony murder again too!

Anonymous said...

Does Sidney again make the claim that Mangum's rape allegation has never been proven false?

Anonymous said...

harr, a couple of lies you repeatedly have told:

crystal was the victim accuser in the Duke Rape Case. She was the victimizer/false accuser in the Duke Rape Hoax.

You say no one has proven crystal had lied about the rape. It was proven beyond all doubt crystal lied.

And you again willfully ignore a basic tenet of the justice system, that the state has to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. What proved beyond a reasonable doubt that crystal was telling the truth? There were no witnesses, there was no medical evidence she was raped, there was no DNA evidene. And she could not reliably identify any member of the Lacrosse team as an assailant.

You have argued that nifong did not DNA evidence to prove sexual assault. In this case he did, and I repeat. The sexual assault initially alleged by crystal was a gang rape in which multiple males, members of the Lacrosse team, had penetrated her, ejaculated on her, and deposited DNA on her. The male DNA recovered fom crystal right after she made her allegation that members of the Lacrosse team had raped her, did not match the DNA of any member of the Lacrosse team.

Anonymous said...

harr, it is obvious you are trying something ridiculous.

You have no standing to sue anyone on crystal's behalf. Where do you get that a civil court can overturn a criminal verdict?

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Sid - There's just a blank grey screen when you click on your link to access the brief and panel.

A Lawyer said...

The suit (along with a host of other jurisdictional flaws) has the wrong plaintiff (only Mangum has standing to challenge her own conviction) and the wrong defendant (the Wake County DA has no power to over Mangum's conviction or incarceration). It would be like me suing Malek Williams claiming that Walt in Durham punched out Sidney Harr: what is it my business, and what is Williams supposed to do about it?

kenhyderal said...

Could D.A. Lorrin Freeman not investigate the matter of M.E. Nichols perjury?

Anonymous said...

more claptrap from hissy fit:

"Could D.A. Lorrin Freeman not investigate the matter of M.E. Nichols perjury?"

Dr. Nichols did not commit perjury. The opinions of incompetent harr and incompetent hissy fit do not establish he did.

Anonymous said...

Mangum should have been executed for murder and falsely accusing innocent white men of rape.She's just as worthless as Freddie Gray,Trayvon Martin,OJ Simpson,Rodney King,Michael Brown,Eric Garner and all the other losers blacks make into heroes and martyrs.

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 10 days.

There are 24 days left until the end of June.

You have 209 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 44 days since April 23rd, 83 days since the Ides of March and 3,278 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous A Lawyer said...
The suit (along with a host of other jurisdictional flaws) has the wrong plaintiff (only Mangum has standing to challenge her own conviction) and the wrong defendant (the Wake County DA has no power to over Mangum's conviction or incarceration). It would be like me suing Malek Williams claiming that Walt in Durham punched out Sidney Harr: what is it my business, and what is Williams supposed to do about it?


Hey, A Lawyer.

Shirley you understand that my complaint against the D.A. has nothing directly to do with the Mangum case. As a citizen of Wake County, I have the right, and D.A. Freeman has the duty to listen to my complaints about the commission of a crime (perjury). By ignoring me, she is guilty of dereliction of duty, and because her reaction, I believe, is because I am an African American, she is discriminating based on race. If I am mistaken and her decision to ignore me is not based on my skin color, then I would gladly like to hear from her what it is.

Nifong Supporter said...

Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...
Sid - There's just a blank grey screen when you click on your link to access the brief and panel.



Hmmm. I thought the link worked after I uploaded. Is it possible that you didn't allow the file time enough to load? Also, keep in mind that this is a Flash document that may not work on phones and pads. Let me know if you continue to have problems with the link.

Anonymous said...

I have problems on both a desktop and a laptop. I reloaded flash onto both. I get a blank grey screen as well. Is five minutes enough time to wait for it to load?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
harr, it is obvious you are trying something ridiculous.

You have no standing to sue anyone on crystal's behalf. Where do you get that a civil court can overturn a criminal verdict?


Please keep in mind that my lawsuit against Freeman is not about Crystal Mangum's conviction and incarceration. It is about me (a black Wake County Tar Heelian) being denied access to report a crime to the district attorney. Pure and simple... even though the relief sought may be considered to be extraterrestrial.

Walt said...

Kenhyderal wrote: "Could D.A. Lorrin Freeman not investigate the matter of M.E. Nichols perjury?"

She can, just as any District Attorney in any district can investigate the goings on in another district. However, they do not. There is a finite limit to the resources of the State and the reason we have prosecutorial districts is to allocate those resources.

That said, the courts cannot compel a District Attorney to file charges. That is called the doctrine of separation of powers. The courts cannot investigate crimes in a common law system, only the executive branch of government investigates crimes. The courts cannot compel an investigation, let alone determine the outcome of such an investigation by compelling the filing of charges. To allow such would be to deny defendants a forum for a fair trial. Furthermore, Sid's baseless lawsuit ignores the obvious: Freeman may have investigated and found no evidence of wrong doing. Thanks to Sid and Crystal, the state knows that Crystal's expert agrees with Dr. Nichols on the cause of death. Dr. Nichols autopsy report is not at odds with his trial testimony. Thus, there is no evidence to support a charge of perjury.

No one has ever successfully accused Sid or Kenny of being effective advocates.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

Hey Nifong Supporter,

Surely you understand that prosecutors in the US have absolute immunity in their roles as prosecutor. Surely you understand that they cannot be sued questioning their exercise of prosecutorial discretion. Surely you understand that, even if she wanted to, Freeman has no power to grant some of the relief you seek, such as Mangum's release.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
I have problems on both a desktop and a laptop. I reloaded flash onto both. I get a blank grey screen as well. Is five minutes enough time to wait for it to load?


I just clicked on the "Harr v. Freeman" panel on the blog site, and it was slow in loading... but it did load within two minutes. Also the transition from the logo to the actual directory was slow, for some reason... but it did load after about twenty seconds.

I don't know why you can't bring it up... maybe some computer tekkie can offer a solution.

Anonymous said...

I am not going to go out of my way to ask for assistance unless you can guarantee that this sharlogs is worthwhile.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
I re-installed flash on both my laptop and desktop, and it still doesn't open. Is there anything new?


You know what I think, although I am no expert on computer science, I believe the heading in the URL "http" versus the secured "https" is the problem. That may be why some computers may not be able to bring it up. Later today I will see about re-uploading it so that it is compatible for all computers. It is not necessary to have Flash software to view the Flash-produced sharlogs.

Walt said...

Sid wrote: "As a citizen of Wake County, I have the right, and D.A. Freeman has the duty to listen to my complaints about the commission of a crime (perjury)."

You are half right. You do have the right to file a police report of a crime. But, you are all wrong when you think you have the right, superior to that of all other citizens in the prosecutorial district, to compel the District Attorney to investigate it. That is a political question, and not a legal one. Thus under our doctrine of separation of powers, the courts cannot compel a prosecutor to investigate. Further, they cannot compel an outcome to that investigation. That would deny defendants a forum for a fair trial. Your remedy is political. You have to get enough people in the prosecutorial district to agree with you that the D.A. is not doing her job and vote her out of office.


"By ignoring me, she is guilty of dereliction of duty, and because her reaction, I believe, is because I am an African American, she is discriminating based on race."


A little quick to play the race card there Sidney.

"If I am mistaken and her decision to ignore me is not based on my skin color,..."

You are, mistaken.

"... then I would gladly like to hear from her what it is."

Let's see, the crime, if there was a crime, took place in the 14th Prosecutorial District. She is the District Attorney for the 10th Prosecutorial District. Or, could it be that a quick review of the facts shows no evidence of perjury? Or, could it be that District Attorneys are elected by all the people of a prosecutorial district and thus cannot allocate too much time to any one of them. Or, could it be that prosecutors don't normally take direct crime reports at all, but rather funnel them through an agency we call the police for investigation. Just as I deplore the bigoted comments of the anonymous poster from the previous thread, I deplore yours.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

More inane claptrap form harr:

"Hey, A Lawyer.

Shirley you understand that my complaint against the D.A. has nothing directly to do with the Mangum case."

Pardon my French, and I think French is appropriate here, are you sh---ing us?! On your lawsuit brief, Relief requested, you repeatedly mention mangum and call for mangum's release and that her conviction be overturned.

"As a citizen of Wake County, I have the right, and D.A. Freeman has the duty to listen to my complaints about the commission of a crime (perjury)."

That is only if, and I say if, your complaint has merit. That you say Dr. Nivhols committed perjury does not establish he did. You are not competent to make that pronouncement. In other words, your proclamation of Dr. Nichols' guilt has no legal merit.

"By ignoring me, she is guilty of dereliction of duty,"

She is fulfilling her duty by ignoring your obviously non meritorious complaint.

"and because her reaction, I believe, is because I am an African American, she is discriminating based on race."

You are, not for the first time, presuming a fact not in evidence.

"If I am mistaken and her decision to ignore me is not based on my skin color, then I would gladly like to hear from her what it is."

Another iteration of the legal attitude you have regarding crystal, that no one has proven she lied. The state had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that crystal told the truth. You do not establish racial bias simply by alleging it. You have to prove it. You admit you can not prove it.

Anonymous said...

ore inanr clap trap from harr:

"Please keep in mind that my lawsuit against Freeman is not about Crystal Mangum's conviction and incarceration. It is about me (a black Wake County Tar Heelian) being denied access to report a crime to the district attorney. Pure and simple... even though the relief sought may be considered to be extraterrestrial."

I point out yet again, your request for relief includes demands that crystal be released and that her conviction be voided.

Anonymous said...

Correction of typos:

more inane clap trap from harr:

"Please keep in mind that my lawsuit against Freeman is not about Crystal Mangum's conviction and incarceration. It is about me (a black Wake County Tar Heelian) being denied access to report a crime to the district attorney. Pure and simple... even though the relief sought may be considered to be extraterrestrial."

I point out yet again, your request for relief includes demands that crystal be released and that her conviction be voided.

Anonymous said...

excerpt from more inane claptrap from harr:

"my lawsuit against Freeman... (a black Wake County Tar Heelian) being denied access to report a crime to the district attorney."

harr has not established that a crime happened.

Anonymous said...

Sidney,

You didn't answer the question raised earlier: was Nifong obligated to investigate allegations that Magnum lied and that Gottlieb filed a false report? If not, why not?

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Flash isn't supported on newer versions of chrome, firefox, and on Windows OS 8.0 and greater due to numerous vulnerabilities.
Time to learn html5, Sid.

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

The more honest answer to your question - no, Lorrin Freeman has no jurisdiction over what happens in Durham - so even if Dr. Nichols did commit perjury, she could do nothing about it. She can only prosecute crimes in Wake County (even from the ME's office) - she has some oversight of the MEs office, but not for this - only if the incidents happen in her jurisdiction.

So, again, Harr's lawsuit can do nothing to help Mangum. Nothing.

Anonymous said...

I was right - he's still pretending Felony Murder was applicable.

Sid's descent into total delusion and mental illness is actually kinda sad to watch.

Anonymous said...

Walt,

Since Sid refuses to post his response to the Show Cause, is there any way you could?

kenhyderal said...

Walt said: "No one has ever successfully accused Sid or Kenny of being effective advocates"..............................................No one has ever accused Walt of advocating for Justice when he can hide behind process.

guiowen said...

No one except Kenhyderal thinks that Kenny is advocating for justice.

Anonymous said...

More inane claptrap from kenny hissy fit:

"Walt said: "No one has ever successfully accused Sid or Kenny of being effective advocates"..............................................No one has ever accused Walt of advocating for Justice when he can hide behind process."

hissy fit thinks he advocates for justice by advocating that innocent men should have been convicted and imprisoned for a crime which never happened, a crime for which he can provide no evidence of happening.

hissy fit thinks he advocates for justice by trying to get his favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes.

Does any one actually believe in hissy fit, except harr and hissy fit?

After all, hissy fit believes that mystery rapists raped crystal. The only thing he ca offer in proof is that he made an assertion that kilgo told him he had a friend who witnessed unidentified rapists raping crystal, an assertion he can not verify.

Anonymous said...

Walt is trying to explain the process to get Justice - ignoring the process means you cannot be successful, following the process gives you a chance.

he's a much better advocate than Sid, and certainly much better than Cowardly Kenny who will just bleat out a few more ad hominem attacks and run away again.

kenhyderal said...

Huh? I don't engage in ad hominem attacks. This is a blatant example of projection. On the other hand almost every response to anything I post contains an ad hominem attack against me.

guiowen said...

Kenny thinks that anyone who disagrees with him is making an ad hominem attack.

Anonymous said...

more claptrap fromhissy fit:

"Huh? I don't engage in ad hominem attacks. This is a blatant example of projection. On the other hand almost every response to anything I post contains an ad hominem attack against me."

what hissy fit calls a homiem attacks are posts pointing out the truth about him, that he is ignorant, that he fabricates, that he does not care about true justice.

Walt said...

Anonymous at 8:36 AM wrote: "Walt,

Since Sid refuses to post his response to the Show Cause, is there any way you could?"


I sure can. Please read Sid's response and just for good cause, I included a copy of the Court's order denying Sid's motion to recuse.

http://walt-in-durham.blogspot.com/2016/06/harr-iii-motions-and-order.html

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

Hey Sid, have you bought your tickets for Greensboro?

JSwift said...

Sidney,

I thought it would be useful to quote from the opinion in Harr I to remind you of Language you should NOT include in your arguments on June 16.

In his 34 pages of objections, much of which is a diatribe on Plaintiff’s perception that former state prosecutor Michael Nifong (who was disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct in connection with his prosecution of alleged crimes by certain members of the Duke University lacrosse team who were later declared innocent of all charges by the North Carolina Attorney General) was mistreated by the media and others, Plaintiff takes the extraordinary tact of repeatedly maligning the motivations and personal integrity of the United States Magistrate Judge and thus this court. Among the charges Plaintiff levies about the Magistrate Judge are that he is “lying to th[is] Court in his recommendation” (Doc. 15 at 1), engaged in “flagrantly unethical, egregious and biased professional misconduct in favoring Defendants” (id.), “attempts to mislead the Court” (id. at 3), engaged in “nothing more than purposeful fabrication” (id.), “offer[ed] up some esoteric legalese mumbo-jumbo to support his decision” (id. at 5), “blatantly lied . . . with the intent to mislead the Court for the purpose of gaining from the Court a favorable decision for Defendants” (id. at 22), “tried to concoct a reason [to support his conclusion]” (id.), “indulged in making misleading and unsubstantiated pronouncements” (id.), uttered “lies [that are] neither innocent nor misstatements but rather calculated to deceive and mislead the Court” (id.), “prevaricated and misled the Court in his recommendation . . . performing more like an attorney for the Ellis & Winters law firm in Greensboro, North Carolina, which is representing Defendants” (id. at 27), “lie[d] on behalf of Defendants in order to mislead the Court in an attempt to get a ruling in favor of the powerful Defendants” (id.), and chose to “purposely lie to the Court about facts of the case, in an attempt to mislead the Court to rule in favor of one of the parties, [which is] the most severe manner of misconduct” (id. at 33). Plaintiff asks that the court “place appropriate sanctions against [the Magistrate Judge] for lying to the Court in an attempt to mislead it in favor of Defendants.” (Id. at 34.)

This leaves the issue of Plaintiff’s gratuitous and vile invective directed at this court. Such comments were totally unnecessary for, as explained above, the factual distinction Plaintiff pressed was wholly irrelevant to the legal issues raised by the motion to dismiss his complaint.3 Neither the liberal pleading rules nor generous pro se practices of the courts has eliminated “the time honored notion that the law and the courts of the United States are important parts of American society worthy of respect.” Theriault v. Silber, 579 F.2d 302, 303 (5th Cir. 1978) (dismissing an appeal with prejudice because the pro se appellant’s notice of appeal contained “vile and insulting references to the trial judge”). Plaintiff’s pro se status is not an excuse to engage in abusive conduct, and Plaintiff is warned against further personal attacks on the Magistrate Judge or any judicial officer of the federal courts. See id; 18 U.S.C. § 401(1) (providing power to punish misbehavior by fine or imprisonment, or both). The court will not hesitate in appropriate cases to exercise its full contempt and other powers in order to protect the dignity of the nation’s judicial system as a forum for the thoughtful resolution of legitimate grievances. Plaintiff is admonished to conduct himself accordingly.

Anonymous said...

The hearing will not go well for Sid. Clearly there will be a gatekeeper order, it will be interesting to see what other sanctions are imposed. Too bad these hearings aren't televised - no one is gonna be there to report back.

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 9 days.

There are 23 days left until the end of June.

You have 208 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 45 days since April 23rd, 84 days since the Ides of March and 3,279 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You still refuse to answer why Sid should be the only person exempt from the Statute of Limitations ... why do you believe it should not apply to him?

A Lawyer said...

Hey, A Lawyer.

Shirley you understand that my complaint against the D.A. has nothing directly to do with the Mangum case.


Then why does the Complaint seek an order vacating Mangum's conviction and releasing her from prison?

Anonymous said...

hey yhisst fit:

How about you explain why harr should be exempt from complying with the law, why his allegations should be accepted at face value without harr having to prove them.

In the same vein, why should your assertion, tat kilgo had av friend who witnessed crystal being raped at the lacrosse party be accepted when you can not document that kilgo ever told you that?

kenhyderal said...

Kilgo did say on this blog that he had information that Crystal had been raped. You, yourself should remember this. In e-mails to me, unfortunately un-saved, he said he had a friend, who was a Player, present at the party who gave him this information. Curiously he spent hours methodically deleting, one by one, all his posts. There must have been some incentive for doing this. Something or somebody got to him. There are persons, players and non-players who were present at the Party who do anonymously visit this blog. The only avenue to reopening this case would be via Kilgo and his Lacrosse Player friend. The guilty do not want this to happen.

Anonymous said...

excerpt from hissy fit's latest round of clap trap.

"Kilgo did say on this blog that he had information that Crystal had been raped. You, yourself should remember this. In e-mails to me, unfortunately un-saved, he said he had a friend, who was a Player, present at the party who gave him this information."

What I remember is, you were challenged to document that kilgo ever told you that. Your reply was that kilgo made that assertion on J4N but that he had disappeared from J4N and had deleted all his posts, so you could not document it. You never mentioned any emails he sent to you.

Your story has changed, indicating you are fabricating.

You shld take this advice from Judge Judy, who unlike Perry Mason and Columbo and Sherlock Holmes, sources harr likes to cite, Judge Judy is real, not fiction. It is easier to tell the truth rather than fabricate, because you can remember the details of the truth rather than the details of the fabrication yo concocted(paraphrased).

Fake Kenhyderal said...

"Curiously he spent hours methodically deleting, one by one, all his posts. There must have been some incentive for doing this."

Sure there was incentive.

Kilgo made false accusations against the lacrosse players that could damage their reputation, character or integrity. They could have chosen to recover damages from Kilgo for his defamation of character.

There you go. Incentive. It was in Kilgo's best interest monetarily to remove those comments.

If you, Ken Edwards, agree to pay for those damages in his stead, Kilgo may be willing to post those statements yet again.


guiowen said...

So Sidney, is this how you expect to get Crystal out of the hoosegow? Sue absolutely everybody who doesn't help you? Claim that anyone who disagrees with you is a racist?
Do you actually think this method will work?

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
Did you actually delete Kilgo's emails? Essential parts of your argument, and you deleted them?

Anonymous said...

Kenny seems to think a lot of people lurk on this blog ... he really has an inflated sense of the value of this blog. I am sure he knows all these people lurk, because once, several years ago, they said something ...

Cowardly Kenny - just contact people if you want them to respond.

Nifong Supporter said...


guiowen said...
So Sidney, is this how you expect to get Crystal out of the hoosegow? Sue absolutely everybody who doesn't help you? Claim that anyone who disagrees with you is a racist?
Do you actually think this method will work?


Hah! gui, mon ami, filing a lawsuit against everyone who doesn't help Crystal is really a very non-productive approach; one which I would not recommend. My lawsuit against D.A. Freeman is based on the facts. First there's dereliction of duty by her ignoring my allegations. Suppose for example, you witness a crime taking place... say for instance a mugging. You go to policeman standing on the corner and alert him to the crime and he completely ignores you. Wouldn't you consider that dereliction of duty. The troopers at the Fayetteville Trump rally saw the white Trump supporter sucker-punch the black alleged protester, and they ignored the crime of assault. But for video evidence, no action would have been taken against the assailant and the deputies.

With regards to Freeman, I notified her of the perjury by Dr. Nichols and she ignored and dodged me. However, recently, when a black 18-year deputy veteran made a small misstatement in court and was admonished by Judge Jacqueline Brewer, Freeman leaped into action by dismissing 175 cases allegedly linked to the black officer and considered perjury charges against him.

Consider that after this incident I again tried to enlighten Freeman about the perjury in Mangum's case... and she ignored me yet again. Up until this time, over a period greater than a year, I took no legal action against Freeman. I believe I was quite restrained.

I believe I was faced with no other option. Also, because of the races of the individuals involved in the situations concerning D.A. Freeman, I believe a strong case can be made for racial discrimination by her. If you can provide an explanation as to why she should avoid interacting with me, a Tar Heelian citizen and resident of Wake County just trying to do my civil duty, then I would be interesting in hearing it.

I hope this answers your question.


Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Hey, A Lawyer.

Shirley you understand that my complaint against the D.A. has nothing directly to do with the Mangum case.

Then why does the Complaint seek an order vacating Mangum's conviction and releasing her from prison?

Hey, A Lawyer.

You are correct that I did seek relief in a case that was not directly related to my lawsuit, however just because the relief I sought in one instance may not seem to bear any jurisdiction to another legal case, that does not, in and of itself, diminish the worthiness of my complaint against the district attorney for her actions related to me.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Sid, have you bought your tickets for Greensboro?


Not yet. Even though I could get a significant discount by purchasing them this far in advance, I will probably wait until the day prior to travel in which to purchase.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Anonymous at 8:36 AM wrote: "Walt,

Since Sid refuses to post his response to the Show Cause, is there any way you could?"

I sure can. Please read Sid's response and just for good cause, I included a copy of the Court's order denying Sid's motion to recuse.

http://walt-in-durham.blogspot.com/2016/06/harr-iii-motions-and-order.html

Walt-in-Durham


Hey, Walt.

Thanks for posting a link to my response. As you may be aware, I have been very busy working for Crystal's release... I am aiming for some time this month. As a result, the time I have free to respond to blog site comments is minimal at best.

Anonymous said...

clap trap from harr

"Hah! gui, mon ami, filing a lawsuit against everyone who doesn't help Crystal is really a very non-productive approach; one which I would not recommend. My lawsuit against D.A. Freeman is based on the facts."

You have presented no facts, just uncorroborated allegations. You believr your allegations should be accepted at face value rather than have to prove them.

"First there's dereliction of duty by her ignoring my allegations."

Your allegations are uncorroborated. Walt and A Lawyer knoe more about the law than you do, mush to your chagrin. Based on their posts, no obligation on the paet to take unproven allegations to trial. Based on what happened to nifong because he tried to prosecute uncorroborated allegations made against innocent men, that is a violation of prosecutorial ethics.

"Suppose for example, you witness a crime taking place... say for instance a mugging. You go to policeman standing on the corner and alert him to the crime and he completely ignores you. Wouldn't you consider that dereliction of duty."

Irrelevant statement. You have witnessed no crime taking place.You allege, without corroboration, that a crime did take place.

"The troopers at the Fayetteville Trump rally saw the white Trump supporter sucker-punch the black alleged protester, and they ignored the crime of assault. But for video evidence, no action would have been taken against the assailant and the deputies."

Again, you have provided any evidence that you ever witnessed a crime. You allege Dr. Nichols committed a crime because you are incapable of appreciating what constitutes a crime. You have established your lack of capacity o do this when you claim thatShan Carter acted in self defense.

"With regards to Freeman, I notified her of the perjury by Dr. Nichols and she ignored and dodged me."

Correction: you made an allegation of perjury without offering ant proof. You did not show that perjury occurred. The issue was the whether or not the spleen was present. You have not proven that Dr. Nichols made that statement in a willful attempt to mislead the court. Whether or not the spleen was present was irrelevant to the fact that Reginald Daye died from a complication of the stab wound. I remind you you do not have the clinical competence to render an opinion as to any other cause of death.

end part 1

Anonymous said...

Part 2

"However, recently, when a black 18-year deputy veteran made a small misstatement in court and was admonished by Judge Jacqueline Brewer, Freeman leaped into action by dismissing 175 cases allegedly linked to the black officer and considered perjury charges against him."

Irrelevant, since you have never established that Dr. Nichols committed perjury.

"Consider that after this incident I again tried to enlighten Freeman about the perjury in Mangum's case... and she ignored me yet again."

Again, yu accused Er. Nichpls of perjury. You did not offer any evidence he did.

"Up until this time, over a period greater than a year, I took no legal action against Freeman. I believe I was quite restrained."

Since you had no legitimate cause of action against DA Freeman in the first place, you wre anything but restrained.

"I believe I was faced with no other option."

Yes you did. You could have realized you had no cause of action and taken no action.

"Also, because of the races of the individuals involved in the situations concerning D.A. Freeman, I believe a strong case can be made for racial discrimination by her."

Again you delude yourself.

"If you can provide an explanation as to why she should avoid interacting with me, a Tar Heelian citizen and resident of Wake County just trying to do my civil duty, then I would be interesting in hearing it."

Since when is making uncorroborated allegations a civic duty? And you again fail to comprehend a tenet of the judicial system. You challenge your intended defendants to disprove your allegations. It is your obligation to prove them. you haven't.

Anonymous said...

Except, Freeman has no jurisdiction to investigate a crime in Durham County. You can't get around that, even if you had a valid lawsuit otherwise (and you don't).

Anonymous said...

Freeman acted on the case of the lying deputy because those cases are in Wake County, her jurisdiction. She cannot bring charges in another county, she cannot dismiss charges in another county.

Are you really this clueless, or is this all just a joke?

Anonymous said...

more clap trap from harr:

"Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Hey, A Lawyer.

Shirley you understand that my complaint against the D.A. has nothing directly to do with the Mangum case.

Then why does the Complaint seek an order vacating Mangum's conviction and releasing her from prison?
Hey, A Lawyer.

You are correct that I did seek relief in a case that was not directly related to my lawsuit, however just because the relief I sought in one instance may not seem to bear any jurisdiction to another legal case, that does not, in and of itself, diminish the worthiness of my complaint against the district attorney for her actions related to me."

The worthiness of your complaint is zero.No matter how many times it is presented, it is zero. Basic math. Nomatter how many times you multiply zero by any number, the result is still zero, as you are about, much to your distress, to find out.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

Any one as incapable as tou of understanding anything is incapable of provuding elucidation.

You are also trying to waffle on your statement that your suit had nothing to do with crystal.

Liar Liar pants on fire.

Or you going to charge the Durham PD of igniting your britches just eo they could charge you with arson?

Anonymous said...

fromharr:

"
Not yet. Even though I could get a significant discount by purchasing them this far in advance, I will probably wait until the day prior to travel in which to purchase."

There is a good chance the tickets harr will purchase will be for an out of NC destination.

Anonymous said...

more from harr:

"Hey, Walt.

Thanks for posting a link to my response. As you may be aware, I have been very busy working for Crystal's release... I am aiming for some time this month. As a result, the time I have free to respond to blog site comments is minimal at best."

harr is waffling again.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "Kenny seems to think a lot of people lurk on this blog".................Most people, when being discussed, whether it be censure or praise, have an interest in following what is being said about them. For example former members of the Lacrosse Team, former DA Mike Nifong, former poster Kilgo,etc all for "various" reasons remain silent or at least do not identify themselves and may even post anonymously. The poster who purports to be Kilgo can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity.

Anonymous said...

I doubt most people care about this blog. They realize it's run by a loon, and the comments are meaningless. People talk about lawyers all the time - they can't monitor all of them. But, you claim to know these people lurk, now it seems like you are merely speculating and pretending your opinions are facts.

Why aren't you explaining why the Statute of Limitations should not apply to Sid?

Why should he alone get special treatment over everyone else in the world to whom the rules apply, even those with much more egregious violations of their rights than him?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:27 states: Kenny seems to think a lot of people lurk on this blog

Anonymous 11:27 cannot prove that a lot of people DON'T lurk on this blog. Kenny wins again!

Anonymous said...

claptrap from hissy fit

"Anonymous said: "Kenny seems to think a lot of people lurk on this blog".................Most people, when being discussed, whether it be censure or praise, have an interest in following what is being said about them. For example former members of the Lacrosse Team, former DA Mike Nifong, former poster Kilgo,etc all for "various" reasons remain silent or at least do not identify themselves and may even post anonymously. The poster who purports to be Kilgo can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity."

Hey hissy fit, why do you not respond to questions put to you, like why did nifong conceal the DNA evidence obtained from crystal's rape kit instead of identifying who left it.

That would be more interesting than reading your ridiculous, uncorroborated speculations.

The Great Kilgo said...

Whoopee ! !

Remember the Good Old Days, Ubes ?

QUACK QUACK QUACK

The Great Kilgo said...

The poster who purports to be kenhyderal can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: " Why aren't you explaining why the Statute of Limitations should not apply to Sid?".....................................................It does apply to Dr. Harr but certainly not to those who raped Crystal

Anonymous said...

another anomyous harr/hissy fit/kilgo impotent temper tantrum

Anonymous said...

more claptrap from kenny hisst fit:

"Anonymous said: " Why aren't you explaining why the Statute of Limitations should not apply to Sid?".....................................................It does apply to Dr. Harr but certainly not to those who raped Crystal"

And as it has been proven that crystal was not raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006, hissy fit is saying the statute of limitations applies to anyone hissy fit knows.

One must ask again why hissy fit spends so much time fantasizing about crystal being raped.

Anonymous said...

Correction:

more claptrap from kenny hisst fit:

"Anonymous said: " Why aren't you explaining why the Statute of Limitations should not apply to Sid?".....................................................It does apply to Dr. Harr but certainly not to those who raped Crystal"

And as it has been proven that crystal was not raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006, hissy fit is saying the statute of limitations applies to NO ONE hissy fit knows.

One must ask again why hissy fit spends so much time fantsizing about crystal being raped.

Anonymous said...

So - if it applies to Dr. Harr, you admit Harr III should be dismissed and he's wasting his time since he admits it is past the Statute of Limitations, correct?

It would not apply to anyone who raped Crystal (if anyone did). There is no statute of limitations on high-level felonies in North Carolina - so if they could ever prove she was raped, they could charge those.

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

Do you believe that Nifong was one of the mystery rapists? No one can prove he wasn't.

The Great Kilgo said...

The poster who purports to be kenhyderal can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity.

Anonymous said...


When will we get the next round of harr/hissy fit a2nonymous posts?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said: "When will we get the next round of harr/hissy fit a2nonymous posts?".............................. Anybody, other than me, see the irony here?

Anonymous said...

To the poster at 4:49:

Your incessant repetition is tiresome. You are not as clever as you suppose, just boring.

Anonymous said...

hey hissy fit:

Regarding your remark about the statute of limitations and crystal's rapists.

You have presented no evidence there were any rapists.

You rant and rave about the male dna found on crystal. You can not establish that the dna was deposited at the party. You can not establish it was not established prior to the party.

You rant and rave about the botched investigation. You dodge questions about why nifong, the individual who had custody of the evidence, and directed the investigation, concealed it the evidence rather than identify who left it.

You rant and rave about mystery rapists, but all you can come up with is an assertion that kilgo told you hat someone told him there were mystery rapists, an assertion you made after said kilgo vanished from J4N and deleted all his posts. You made an assertion which you can not verify.

You haven't provided any evidence crystal was raped. And I ask again, what is the reason you fantasize about crystal being raped?

Go ahead and accuse me of projection. I remind you, you are the one saying sha was raped. I am saying she was not.

The Great Kilgo said...

The poster who purports to be kenhyderal can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity.

Walt said...

Sid wrote: " My lawsuit against D.A. Freeman is based on the facts. First there's dereliction of duty by her ignoring my allegations. Suppose for example, you witness a crime taking place... say for instance a mugging. You go to policeman standing on the corner and alert him to the crime and he completely ignores you. Wouldn't you consider that dereliction of duty."

You may think there is a duty here, but there is not. DeShaney v. Winnebago Co. Dept. of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189, 109 S. Ct. 998; 103 L. Ed. 2d 249 (1989). You don't need a law library to read about it. Just go to https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/489/189/case.html. You can read the whole case, and for free, in the leisure of your own internet reading room.

Now, enlightened, please go find a legal theory that has some merit.

Walt-in-Durham

The Great Kilgo said...

The poster who purports to be kenhyderal can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity.

kenhyderal said...

The post by Anonymous at 4:51 seems to apply to you as well.

kenhyderal said...

Dr.Anonymous said: " And I ask again, what is the reason you fantasize about crystal being raped?'........................................ Disgusting! As a Physician, you should be ashamed of yourself. It's little wonder that you post anonymously. I'm sure your Medical Board would find your labeling people with psycho-pathology, as pejorative, is unethical. It really says more about you then about those you like to label

guiowen said...

As usual, Kenny is insulting anyone who disagrees with him!

Anonymous said...

more inane claptrap from kenny hissy fit:

"Dr.Anonymous said: " And I ask again, what is the reason you fantasize about crystal being raped?'........................................ Disgusting! As a Physician, you should be ashamed of yourself. It's little wonder that you post anonymously. I'm sure your Medical Board would find your labeling people with psycho-pathology, as pejorative, is unethical. It really says more about you then about those you like to label".

hissy fit again dodges addressing an issue, why is he so invested in proving crystal was raped. I again remind him, he has been completely unable to provide any factual evidence she was raped.

Also, no mention as to why he shouldn't be ashamed of accusing innocent men of perpetrating a crime which never happened.

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You didn't answer the question. Do you think Nifong could be one of the mystery rapists? That could explain why he did not try to identify the male DNA found in and on Crystal. In any event, no one can prove he isn't a mystery rapist.

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 8 days.

There are 22 days left until the end of June.

You have 207 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 46 days since April 23rd, 85 days since the Ides of March and 3,280 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

To the poster at 3:07:

Your incessant repetition is tiresome. You are not as clever as you suppose, just boring.

The Great Kilgo said...


The poster who purports to be kenhyderal can't answer a question I have which would confirm his identity.

Anonymous said...


To the Poster at 5:05 AM:

You must have me mistaken for someone else. I do not make repetitive posts. Every daily countdown I post is unique. They are like snowflakes - although they are all similar in structure, no two are exactly alike.

If you look back thru the comments you will see that Sid has had nothing but nice things to say about my countdown posts. I think they help keep him on his toes.

So, notwithstanding your negative, hurtful comment, I will soldier on and continue to do my level best to provide you, and the other reader(s) of this shlog with a fresh, unique, high quality countdown post every single day. Because that is how I roll.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Party on Abe

The Rectumfinder said...

<< Do you think Nifong could be one of the mystery rapists? That could explain why he did not try to identify the male DNA found in and on Crystal. In any event, no one can prove he isn't a mystery rapist.>>

The mystery rapist was Sidney Harr. He was wearing whiteface so he could frame the Duke Lacrosse team. But when I find his ass, he will pay. I am the Rectumfinder!

kenhyderal said...

Guiowen said: "As usual, Kenny is insulting anyone who disagrees with him!"..................................................As usual, blatant projection.

Anonymous said...

more claptrap from hisst fit:

"Guiowen said: "As usual, Kenny is insulting anyone who disagrees with him!"..................................................As usual, blatant projection."

As usual, more desperate denial from hissy fit.

kenhyderal said...

Dr. Anonymous said: "hissy fit again dodges addressing an issue, why is he so invested in proving crystal was raped"...................................Why? Because justice demands these perpetrators be held accountable

Anonymous said...

non answer from hissy fit-or rather another dodge:

"Dr. Anonymous said: "hissy fit again dodges addressing an issue, why is he so invested in proving crystal was raped"...................................Why? Because justice demands these perpetrators be held accountable "

As there was no rape and, again, hissy fit has been totally inapableof providing evidence there was, there were no perpetrators.

And the question remains unanswered, why is hissy fit so committed to believing crystal was raped? What gratification does he get from this?

Anonymous said...

Just for good measure, I repeat the challenge:

Hey hissy fit:

You rant and rave about the botched investigation and the failure to identify who left their DNA on crystal.

Explain why nifong, who took charge of the investigation and who had custoy of the DNA evidence, concealed the evidence rather than identify the sources?

Or are you going to claim, again, contrary to public knowledge, that nifong did not conceal the evidence? Or, are you going to claim again that nifong was trying to convict the Lacrosse team of sexual assault, for which he did not need DNA evidence?

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You didn't answer the question. Do you think Nifong could be one of the mystery rapists? That could explain why he did not try to identify the male DNA found in and on Crystal. In any event, no one can prove he isn't a mystery rapist.

guiowen said...

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Nifong knew someone who had had relations with Crystal. I can imagine this guy calling Nifong: "For gossake, Mike, don't try to identify the DNA! Keep me out of this!"

Anonymous said...

Personally, I think that nifong suspected that the DNA would match the DNA of men with whom crystal had contact through her escort agency, men with whom she had contact before the Lacrosse party. For hissy fit, that would have established the tine of deposition was before the party and would have revealed her as a false accuser right at the start.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
I'm glad to see you've learned a new word, namely "projection". I imagine you'll be using it in everyone of your comments from now on. Good work!

Ken Edwards Supporter said...

A sarcastic man is a bitter man.

kenhyderal supporter said...

A sarcastic man is a wounded man.

Anonymous said...

A wounded man is a bitter man.

Anonymous said...

A wounded man is a sarcastic man.

Anonymous said...

A bitter man is a sarcastic man.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Sid wrote: " My lawsuit against D.A. Freeman is based on the facts. First there's dereliction of duty by her ignoring my allegations. Suppose for example, you witness a crime taking place... say for instance a mugging. You go to policeman standing on the corner and alert him to the crime and he completely ignores you. Wouldn't you consider that dereliction of duty."

You may think there is a duty here, but there is not. DeShaney v. Winnebago Co. Dept. of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189, 109 S. Ct. 998; 103 L. Ed. 2d 249 (1989). You don't need a law library to read about it. Just go to https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/489/189/case.html. You can read the whole case, and for free, in the leisure of your own internet reading room.

Now, enlightened, please go find a legal theory that has some merit.

Walt-in-Durham


Hey, Walt.

Thanks for the case law. Am busy now trying to get out some correspondence before closing time, so I'll take a closer look at the case and comment later.

Anonymous said...

Sid,

You also need to get over the hurdle of jurisdiction - Freeman has no power to investigate criminal activity in Durham County, nor take any action for crimes in Durham County. The fact that she ostensibly oversees the ME's office doesn't get her jurisdiction to prosecute an employee for a crime not committed in Wake County.

She can do nothing about the Mangum case, the Federal Judge can do nothing. Your case will be dismissed quickly, and rather than helping Mangum, you will just further show you are a loon (especially since you keep bringing up Felony Murder and other issues that are clearly wrong - you've proven you are delusional and unwilling to listen/learn, so no one will pay attention to you).

Anonymous said...

claptrap fro harr:

"Hey, Walt.

Thanks for the case law. Am busy now trying to get out some correspondence before closing time, so I'll take a closer look at the case and comment later."

harr is waffling again.

Walt said...

One of the things that is worth while about this site is, I get encouraged to look at issues that I haven't looked at since law school. My initial thought was that a District Attorney being a constitutional officer would have broad jurisdiction to look into crimes. She does, mainly through the statute that authorizes municipal police departments and the Sheriffs to investigate crimes and make arrests state wide. (Different from company police who can only make arrests on company property and areas immediately adjacent thereto.) That said, I discovered that the North Carolina Constitution authorizes a District Attorney to prosecute criminal charges only in the Superior and District Courts of her prosecutorial district N.C. Constitution Art. IV § 18. Combine Article IV § 18 with the state and federal constitutional provisions that require the state to try anyone in the place where the crime occurred, that means Lorin Freeman lacks the jurisdiction to prosecute Dr. Nichols, or anyone else for a crime that allegedly took place in Durham County.

Further, North Carolina courts cannot order a District Attorney to prosecute anyone. State v. Camacho, 329 N.C. 589, 406 S.E.2d 868 (1991). The Supreme Court held that the Superior Court could not tell the District Attorney, or his designee how or when to do his job, even in the context of regulating the practice of law. All of that would intrude on the District Attorney's constitutional duties and discretion. Only the North Carolina State Bar can regulate the conduct of District Attorneys.

Sid's going to lose his case against Freeman. First, she is under no duty at all to act on his so called report. DeShaney v. Winnebago Co. Dept. of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189, 109 S. Ct. 998; 103 L. Ed. 2d 249 (1989). Second, she has no jurisdiction, even if she finds probable cause that a crime did take place. State v. Comacho, supra. Yet another of Sid's baseless, and frivolous lawsuits.

Walt.in.Durham

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 7 days.

There are 21 days left until the end of June.

You have 206 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 47 days since April 23rd, 86 days since the Ides of March and 3,281 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You didn't answer the question. Do you think Nifong could be one of the mystery rapists? That could explain why he did not try to identify the male DNA found in and on Crystal. In any event, no one can prove he isn't a mystery rapist.

Anonymous said...

Sid,

Are you planning on wearing your J4N t-shirt for your hearing next week?

Anonymous said...

Why did you stop posting the letters you send and receive?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why did you stop posting the letters you send and receive?


Mainly because it takes too much time... time that I could better use working on projects to get justice for Mangum and producing sharlogs, etc. Besides, there didn't seem to be an overwhelming demand for them. Keep in mind that I do not have the luxury of a staff. Because I am a firm believer in transparency, I would love to post all correspondence, but that is lower on my list of priorities.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

Are you planning on wearing your J4N t-shirt for your hearing next week?


Hadn't really given it any thought, but now that you mention it, I think that I will.

Anonymous said...

Not that it should matter, but a Federal Judge is not going to be impressed if a litigant wears a t-shirt to Court. Lawyers are required to wear coats and ties, and cannot appear without them. I would check the dress code before you go in and make a bigger joke of the proceedings than you already have.

Why shouldn't the Statute of Limitations apply to you?

And, do you realize how whiny, pathetic, and sad, your argument that the Judge denied your Motion for Extension of Time (which you admit is within his discretion) because you refused to provide reasons, wanting him to just trust you? Had you provided reasons, you may have an argument - since, by your own admission, you refused to provide reasons, you lose there anyway.

Plus - just because you don't believe res judicata applies to Motions to Dismiss and Summary Judgment is meaningless. As has been shown to you, the law says it does apply - and you can cry and whine all you want about what you think or want the law to be (you still do it with Felony Murder), but the law is the law.

And - you ignore the Statute of Limitations. Why shouldn't it apply to you? (Yes, I've asked that again - because you refuse to answer - Kenny has finally admitted it should apply to you, and this this lawsuit should be tossed - but you will have to explain why it shouldn't apply to you.)

Anonymous said...

claptrap from harr:

"...I am a firm believer in transparency, I would love to post all correspondence, but that is lower on my list of priorities."

BULLSHIT!!!!

You dodge issues you do not like, e.g. why was there no evidence crystal was raped. The best you come up with is, no one can prove crystal was not raped. You forget that no one had to prove crystal was not raped. nifong had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was. There was no evidence she was.

Anonymous said...

Good idea, Sid. I think the J4N T-Shirt will be a real crowd-pleaser.

Anonymous said...



Federal courtrooms are pretty informal places and notorious for their lack of decorum and lax dress codes. A T-shirt is perfectly appropriate attire to wear to a hearing or trial. I am sure everyone in the courtroom will be in T-shirts or polos. Some will probably be wearing sandals or flip flops. The judge will likely be wearing a tube top and cut-offs under her robes.

Also, remember that judges like to be called by their first names.

I'd wish you luck next week, but I don't think you are going to need it. You seem to have your act together and everything under control.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Fake Kenhyderal said...

I picture Sid's day in court going something like this.

Anonymous said...

A sarcastic man is a wounded man.

Anonymous said...

It's too bad there won't be anyone there to let us know what happened. We will have to wait a few days until Walt can post the Order - because we know Sid will lie about the case, or just totally ignore it if it doesn't go his way.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
One of the things that is worth while about this site is, I get encouraged to look at issues that I haven't looked at since law school. My initial thought was that a District Attorney being a constitutional officer would have broad jurisdiction to look into crimes. She does, mainly through the statute that authorizes municipal police departments and the Sheriffs to investigate crimes and make arrests state wide. (Different from company police who can only make arrests on company property and areas immediately adjacent thereto.) That said, I discovered that the North Carolina Constitution authorizes a District Attorney to prosecute criminal charges only in the Superior and District Courts of her prosecutorial district N.C. Constitution Art. IV § 18. Combine Article IV § 18 with the state and federal constitutional provisions that require the state to try anyone in the place where the crime occurred, that means Lorin Freeman lacks the jurisdiction to prosecute Dr. Nichols, or anyone else for a crime that allegedly took place in Durham County.

Further, North Carolina courts cannot order a District Attorney to prosecute anyone. State v. Camacho, 329 N.C. 589, 406 S.E.2d 868 (1991). The Supreme Court held that the Superior Court could not tell the District Attorney, or his designee how or when to do his job, even in the context of regulating the practice of law. All of that would intrude on the District Attorney's constitutional duties and discretion. Only the North Carolina State Bar can regulate the conduct of District Attorneys.

Sid's going to lose his case against Freeman. First, she is under no duty at all to act on his so called report. DeShaney v. Winnebago Co. Dept. of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189, 109 S. Ct. 998; 103 L. Ed. 2d 249 (1989). Second, she has no jurisdiction, even if she finds probable cause that a crime did take place. State v. Comacho, supra. Yet another of Sid's baseless, and frivolous lawsuits.

Walt.in.Durham


Hey, Walt.

Thanks for the case law, however, I do not believe that case is relevant to mine. In the DeShaney v. Winnebago case, the respondent was sued for not protecting petitioner after being warned about petitioner's dangerous living situation. My case against D.A. Lorrin Freeman is not about Mangum's case which was tried in Durham County, rather it is about the Wake County D.A. refusing to consider a complaint from a Wake County resident about criminality conducted by the medical examiner's office employee... the medical examiner's office located in Raleigh. Therein is the dereliction. The discrimination being that she has ignored me because I am an African American. Whether or not she is obliged to prosecute is not relevant, although I believe she is. However, I would say that she has a duty to hear the complaint about a crime. Is it your position, Walt, that the district attorney in North Carolina can ignore a complaint by a citizen about a crime? Is it your position that a police officer can ignore a complaint from a citizen about a crime?

The Fayetteville officers who ignored the sucker punch thrown by the Trump supporter against the alleged black protester, were disciplined for turning a blind eye toward the obvious assault against the man they were escorting from the arena. In the same vein, Freeman has been turning a blind eye to the perjury charge that I have been making in letters sent to her.

Anonymous said...

Sidney,

You never answered the question: Was Nifong able to ignore the allegations that Magnum's gang rape allegation and Gottlieb's report were both false?

Anonymous said...

Sidney,

I trust you believe that the police in Ferguson and san Jose had a duty to arrest the rioters in those cities.

Anonymous said...

repeated claptrap from harr;

"My case against D.A. Lorrin Freeman is not about Mangum's case which was tried in Durham County,"

So, again, if your case is not about mangum, why did you state, in the relief sought part, you demand that crystal's conviction be overturned and crystal be released. You are even more incredibly stupid than I once believed if you think you can get away with this obvious lie.

"rather it is about the Wake County D.A. refusing to consider a complaint from a Wake County resident about criminality conducted by the medical examiner's office employee."

Wrong..

It is about a deluded megalomaniac filing a complaint about criminal behavior when no crime happened, sort of like nifong filing criminal charges against innocent men when no crime happened.

It is about a deluded megalomaniac throwing a tantrum because his favorite murderess/false accuser won't get a pass for her crimes.

And it is about a deluded megalomaniac throwing a tantrum because he can't shake down Duke University, via a frivolous, non meritorious lawsuit, for a huge settlement."

Anonymous said...

more clap trap from harr:

" Freeman has been turning a blind eye to the perjury charge that I have been making in letters sent to her."

harr has not established perjury too place.

What harr calls perjury happened outside DA Freeman's jurisdiction, as has been pointed out to harr repeatedly.

Anonymous said...

You really don't want to learn - it's been pointed out that since the alleged crime occurred outside Wake County, Lorrin Freeman has no jurisdiction. She doesn't oversee the MEs office - unless the wrongdoing is in Wake County. Just because the MEs office is in wake - if the crime is outside Wake, she has nothing to do with it.

People try to teach you, you refuse to learn. You deserve every failure you suffer.

A Lawyer said...

The discrimination being that she has ignored me because I am an African American.

How do you know that's the reason she ignored you? Maybe she ignored you because, according to press reports which you haven't denied, you are a gadfly who has filed dozens of lawsuits without ever winning one. Maybe she considers you to be a crank.

Whether or not she is obliged to prosecute is not relevant, although I believe she is. However, I would say that she has a duty to hear the complaint about a crime. Is it your position, Walt, that the district attorney in North Carolina can ignore a complaint by a citizen about a crime?

You're asking the wrong question. A DA may have a duty to hear complaints, but her failure to do so is something you have to take up with the voters, not with a federal court. Not every "duty" is a judicially-enforceable duty.

Anonymous said...



Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 6 days.

There are 20 days left until the end of June.

You have 205 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 48 days since April 23rd, 87 days since the Ides of March and 3,282 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

A DA has no duty to investigate criminal wrongdoing - that's what the police are for.

A DA has no ability to investigate criminal wrongdoing outside their jurisdiction.

Lorrin Freeman ignored you because you are a fool, and because you were complaining about things in Durham, and even if she wanted to do anything, she could not - so she ignored you.

She doesn't oversee the MEs office just because it is in Wake County, anymore than she oversees your apartment complex or anyone else. You are trying to tie in the Orange DA investigation into the MEs office (Dr. Nichols) because the MEs office was in Orange County - but what you ignore (because you ignore inconvenient things that don't fit your narrative) is that the autopsy at issue (therefore the wrongdoing) occurred in that office - so in Orange County - so he had jurisdiction.

Sid, honest question: Are you really this delusional and dense, or are you just a narcissistic troll like Donald Trump who continues to do and say things just for the reaction?

Nothing you are doing will help Crystal. You are harming her, and have harmed her.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous A Lawyer said...
The discrimination being that she has ignored me because I am an African American.

How do you know that's the reason she ignored you? Maybe she ignored you because, according to press reports which you haven't denied, you are a gadfly who has filed dozens of lawsuits without ever winning one. Maybe she considers you to be a crank.

Whether or not she is obliged to prosecute is not relevant, although I believe she is. However, I would say that she has a duty to hear the complaint about a crime. Is it your position, Walt, that the district attorney in North Carolina can ignore a complaint by a citizen about a crime?

You're asking the wrong question. A DA may have a duty to hear complaints, but her failure to do so is something you have to take up with the voters, not with a federal court. Not every "duty" is a judicially-enforceable duty.

Hey, A Lawyer.

Hah! There was no report that said I was a gadfly... that came from an Indy Week reporter in a hatchet job article designed to discredit me. However, even if that were the truth - and it's not - D.A. Freeman had, in my humble opinion, an obligation to look into my complaint of criminality. From your comment, it appears that your position is that district attorneys in this state have an obligation to take complaints from citizens about crimes. Glad that we agree upon that.

As far as her reason for ignoring my complaint, I have reason to believe it is race-based because she swiftly injected herself into the Deputy Robert Davis controversy... wherein his trivial misstatement at court brought a swift and decisive response. Keep in mind that Officer Davis is an African American, and the motorist complaining against him was white. Also my complaint of perjury is against medical examiner Dr. Clay Nichols, who is white, and revelation and action upon this irrefutable crime benefits Crystal Mangum, an African American.

There is a possibility that race may not have entered into D.A. Freeman's decision to ignore me, but I have an open mind and will gladly entertain any reasonable alternative... "gadfly" not being one.

Consider yourself elucidated.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
A DA has no duty to investigate criminal wrongdoing - that's what the police are for.

A DA has no ability to investigate criminal wrongdoing outside their jurisdiction.

Lorrin Freeman ignored you because you are a fool, and because you were complaining about things in Durham, and even if she wanted to do anything, she could not - so she ignored you.

She doesn't oversee the MEs office just because it is in Wake County, anymore than she oversees your apartment complex or anyone else. You are trying to tie in the Orange DA investigation into the MEs office (Dr. Nichols) because the MEs office was in Orange County - but what you ignore (because you ignore inconvenient things that don't fit your narrative) is that the autopsy at issue (therefore the wrongdoing) occurred in that office - so in Orange County - so he had jurisdiction.

Sid, honest question: Are you really this delusional and dense, or are you just a narcissistic troll like Donald Trump who continues to do and say things just for the reaction?

Nothing you are doing will help Crystal. You are harming her, and have harmed her.


Your defense of D.A. Freeman's inaction on my complaint may contain a kernel of truth, however, my position is this... why doesn't she, or one of her assistants on staff, take the time to write to me and give an explanation? You took the time to give an explanation. I think she owes it to Wake County residents. To ignore someone, basically means, that that person is unworthy... of no more value to society than a dead ant on the sidewalk.

Is it your position that the proper and professional response to an elected official to a query by one of his/her constituents is to ignore him/her? I'm curious to know, and await your response.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
You really don't want to learn - it's been pointed out that since the alleged crime occurred outside Wake County, Lorrin Freeman has no jurisdiction. She doesn't oversee the MEs office - unless the wrongdoing is in Wake County. Just because the MEs office is in wake - if the crime is outside Wake, she has nothing to do with it.

People try to teach you, you refuse to learn. You deserve every failure you suffer.


Your statement is totally untrue, and even Walt-in-Durham and A Lawyer will support me on this jurisdiction issue. One recent example has to do with Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall considering whether or not to bring criminal charges against medical examiner Dr. Clay Nichols for his mishandling of evidence in a Cumberland County case. At the time of this matter, the medical examiner's office was situated at UNC-CH in Orange County. It was not the Cumberland County district attorney who investigated Dr. Nichols. Now that the medical examiner's office is located in Wake County, it would be the duty and within jurisdiction of the Wake County district attorney to investigate possible criminality regarding the medical examiner's office even if the crime occurred in Durham County.

Consider yourself elucidated.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...


Federal courtrooms are pretty informal places and notorious for their lack of decorum and lax dress codes. A T-shirt is perfectly appropriate attire to wear to a hearing or trial. I am sure everyone in the courtroom will be in T-shirts or polos. Some will probably be wearing sandals or flip flops. The judge will likely be wearing a tube top and cut-offs under her robes.

Also, remember that judges like to be called by their first names.

I'd wish you luck next week, but I don't think you are going to need it. You seem to have your act together and everything under control.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL


Hey, Abe.

Thanks for the advice, but I think I will forego it. Somehow, the clapper in your bell seems to lack the ring of truth.

Anonymous said...

latest round of clap trap from harr:

"Hey, A Lawyer.

"Hah! There was no report that said I was a gadfly..."

Yes there was.

"that came from an Indy Week reporter in a hatchet job article designed to discredit me."

It was the truth. And you had already discredited yourself.

"However, even if that were the truth - and it's not -"

Yes it was.

"D.A. Freeman had, in my humble opinion, an obligation to look into my complaint of criminality. From your comment, it appears that your position is that district attorneys in this state have an obligation to take complaints from citizens about crimes. Glad that we agree upon that."

In your delusional megalomania, your opinions have been grandiose, not humble. And, as many knowledgeable people have pointed out to you, it is not the DA's duty to take complaints of criminal complaints. Citizens report cries to the poice. And, as was demonstrated in the Duke Rape Hoax, where nifong took control of the police investigation,it is inappropriate for a DA to direct a police investigation of a crime which thay DA intends to personally prosecute.

"As far as her reason for ignoring my complaint, I have reason to believe it is race-based because she swiftly injected herself into the Deputy Robert Davis controversy... wherein his trivial misstatement at court brought a swift and decisive response."

You ignore that your belief does not establish anything as fact. You have to establish it as fact via evidence. You haven't.

"Keep in mind that Officer Davis is an African American, and the motorist complaining against him was white."

Irrelevant to your frivolous, irrelevant lawsuit.

"Also my complaint of perjury is against medical examiner Dr. Clay Nichols, who is white, and revelation and action upon this irrefutable crime benefits Crystal Mangum, an African American."

Again, your opinion that his perjury is irrefutable, does not establish it is. And your track record of filing and losing frivolous non meritorious lawsuits establishes that your opinions in legal matters are not meaningful. In any event, you would have absolutely no legal standing in the crystal mangum/Reginald Daye murder case, and therefore absolutely no right to sue anyone in connection with it, and in spite your obvious lies, this latest frivolous lawsuit of yours is because your favorite murderess/false accuser did not get a pass for her crimes.

There is a possibility that race may not have entered into D.A. Freeman's decision to ignore me, but I have an open mind and will gladly entertain any reasonable alternative..."

You have a guilt presuming closed mind in these things. And your statement that you will entertain alternatives shows how legally incompetent you are. No one has to present you with any alternatives to your perception of the situation. You have to prove there are no alternatives to your perception. You have to prove your case. And you can't so you throw tantrums, vainly believing you can intimidate people.

"'gadfly' not being one."

I concede that you are a gadfly is not why DA Freeman does not take you seriously.

"Consider yourself elucidated."

Again, a willfully ignorant individual who is incapable of understanding the truth elucidates no one.

Anonymous said...

from harr:

"Hey, Abe.

Thanks for the advice, but I think I will forego it. Somehow, the clapper in your bell seems to lack the ring of truth."

This comes from an individual who likes to push lies(crystal was the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, there is a carpetbagger jihad initiated by Mrs. Rae Evans, nifong was a decent, honorable prosecutor, the police set fire to Milton Walker's clothes s they could charge crystal with arson) as the truth.

His latest glaringly obvious lie is, his frivolous lawsuit against DA Freeman has nothing to do with crystal's murder of Reginald Daye. The relef harr is seeking is that crystal's conviction be overturned and crystal be released from prison.

And here is a rather obnoxious falsehood harr has been pushing as truth for quite a while: when Shan Carter chased down and shot and killed a fleeing, unarmed man with an illegally possessed .357 Magnum, in the process killing an innocent child, he was acting in self defense,and the death of the child was just an unfortunate accident.

Anonymous said...

Sidney,

You never answered the question: Did Nifong have a duty to investigate the allegations that Magnum's gang rape allegation and Gottlieb's report were both false?

Anonymous said...

claptrap from harr:

"Your defense of D.A. Freeman's inaction on my complaint may contain a kernel of truth, however, my position is this... why doesn't she, or one of her assistants on staff, take the time to write to me and give an explanation?"

Why deserve an explanation.Your inability to understand the law and legal procedures does not entitle you to personal tutoring session.

"You took the time to give an explanation. I think she owes it to Wake County residents."

You presume a fact not in evidence, that you can think.

"To ignore someone, basically means, that that person is unworthy... of no more value to society than a dead ant on the sidewalk."

Again you presume a fact not in evidence, that your delusional megalomania, your biases, your prejudices, your desire to get your favorite murderess/false accuser a pass for her crimes, your attempts to shake down Duke for a settlement, your proclamations that the innocent, falsely accused lLacrosse players are guilty, are of worth somethingto society. The truth is, you, yourself, have made yourself worthless to society.

"Is it your position that the proper and professional response to an elected official to a query by one of his/her constituents is to ignore him/her? I'm curious to know, and await your response."

How about you show that you have made a query which deserves the attention of an elected official. All you have done with regard to Dr.Nichols, is made uncorroborated allegations. And you are totally incapable of making those allegations.

Anonymous said...

claptrapfromharr:

"Your statement is totally untrue,"

That you are incapable of learning has been firmly established. It has been pointed out to you repeatedly, in your latest frivolous lawsuit,you demand crystal's murder conviction be overturned and released from prison. But thenyou say said lawsuit is not about crystal's murder of Reginald Daye.

"and even Walt-in-Durham and A Lawyer will support me on this jurisdiction issue."

How about you cite posts in which Walt and A Lawyer have supported you on this.


"One recent example has to do with Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall considering whether or not to bring criminal charges against medical examiner Dr. Clay Nichols for his mishandling of evidence in a Cumberland County case. At the time of this matter, the medical examiner's office was situated at UNC-CH in Orange County. It was not the Cumberland County district attorney who investigated Dr. Nichols. Now that the medical examiner's office is located in Wake County, it would be the duty and within jurisdiction of the Wake County district attorney to investigate possible criminality regarding the medical examiner's office even if the crime occurred in Durham County."

However, you have not established that a crime did happen. Your track record regarding crimes, that crystal was raped,that Shan Carter did not commit Felony murder, establish you do not know what establishes something as a crime. Thst you alleged the crime does not establish justification for a DA to investigate your allegation. And you alleged the crime because you want your fvorite murderess/false accuser to get a pass for her crimes.

"Consider yourself elucidated."

Another iteration of a lie you tell repeatedly, that you are capable of providing elucidation.

Anonymous said...


Sid said:

"Hey, Abe.

Thanks for the advice, but I think I will forego it. Somehow, the clapper in your bell seems to lack the ring of truth."

You're the one who said you were going to wear your J4N T-shirt to court. You have demonstrated time and again that neither facts nor rational thought will dissuade you from pursuing a course of conduct once you have your mind made up. I thought I'd try sarcasm instead. I hope it worked and that you will dress and behave appropriately in court next week.

One last thing: you are going to get your ass handed to you next week. Try to learn something from it.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

The evidence was mishandled in Orange County - at the ME's office - that's why Woodall had anything to do with it. Yes, it was a Cumberland County case, but he autopsy, and issue with evidence, occurred in Orange County - so Woodall was involved.

Your allegations of perjury against Nichols occurred in Durham County, so Freeman wouldn't be involved.

Walt has noted that - A Lawyer as well.

Consider yourself elucidated - you are WRONG.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous June 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM

To your comment I add, harr's track record in evaluating crimes is abysmal, failing to recognize there was no crime in the Duke Rape Hoax, calling the felony murder of Tyrone Baker and Demetrius Greene self defense on the part of Shan Carter(again, Tyrone Baker was unarmed and fleeing from Shan Carter when Shan Cartr chased him down and killed him with an illegally possessed firearm, in the process also killing 8 year old Demetrius Greene).

That harr accuses someone of a crime is like a deaf blinnd mabn saying, I see and here everything.

A Lawyer said...

Your defense of D.A. Freeman's inaction on my complaint may contain a kernel of truth, however, my position is this... why doesn't she, or one of her assistants on staff, take the time to write to me and give an explanation? You took the time to give an explanation. I think she owes it to Wake County residents. To ignore someone, basically means, that that person is unworthy... of no more value to society than a dead ant on the sidewalk. Is it your position that the proper and professional response to an elected official to a query by one of his/her constituents is to ignore him/her? I'm curious to know, and await your response.

To repeat what I said above, it may not be "proper and professional," but it is not an issue that can be addressed in a federal court lawsuit.

The Great Kilgo said...

..


Oh No !


Ubes has lapsed into his

notorious Crank mode !

Anonymous said...

Another harr/hissy fit/kilgo anonymous impotent tantrum.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
The evidence was mishandled in Orange County - at the ME's office - that's why Woodall had anything to do with it. Yes, it was a Cumberland County case, but he autopsy, and issue with evidence, occurred in Orange County - so Woodall was involved.

Your allegations of perjury against Nichols occurred in Durham County, so Freeman wouldn't be involved.

Walt has noted that - A Lawyer as well.

Consider yourself elucidated - you are WRONG.


So, you're saying that I should be confronting the Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall about the perjury in Crystal Mangum's case because the Daye autopsy was conducted at UNC-CH?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid said:

"Hey, Abe.

Thanks for the advice, but I think I will forego it. Somehow, the clapper in your bell seems to lack the ring of truth."

You're the one who said you were going to wear your J4N T-shirt to court. You have demonstrated time and again that neither facts nor rational thought will dissuade you from pursuing a course of conduct once you have your mind made up. I thought I'd try sarcasm instead. I hope it worked and that you will dress and behave appropriately in court next week.

One last thing: you are going to get your ass handed to you next week. Try to learn something from it.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL


Abe, sorry to inform you, but you're going to have to re-adjust your calendar as the date of the hearing has been changed.

By the way, I will be busy for the next few days and unable to reply to comments until about the middle of next week... around the 15th.

Anonymous said...

more claptrap from harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
The evidence was mishandled in Orange County - at the ME's office - that's why Woodall had anything to do with it. Yes, it was a Cumberland County case, but he autopsy, and issue with evidence, occurred in Orange County - so Woodall was involved.

Your allegations of perjury against Nichols occurred in Durham County, so Freeman wouldn't be involved.

Walt has noted that - A Lawyer as well.

Consider yourself elucidated - you are WRONG.


So, you're saying that I should be confronting the Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall about the perjury in Crystal Mangum's case because the Daye autopsy was conducted at UNC-CH?"

Presumes a fact not in evidence, that Dr. Nichols committed perjury. harr's opinion, that Dr. Nichols committed perjurt has no legal weight.

harr is familiar term, I think.

Anonymous said...

from harr:

"...I will be busy for the next few days and unable to reply to comments until about the middle of next week... around the 15th."

harr is waffling and ducking again.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone try to get Mangum out of prison? She probably likes it there anyway.

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 5 days (or more, if your moment of reckoning has been rescheduled).

There are 19 days left until the end of June.

You have 204 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 49 days since April 23rd, 88 days since the Ides of March and 3,283 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

When will we get the next round of harr/hissy fit a2nonymous posts?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said: "When will we get the next round of harr/hissy fit a2nonymous posts?".............................. Anybody, other than me, see the irony here?

Anonymous said...

To the anonymous poster at 5:55:

While the irony in the initial post (the one with the typo) was quite clear to all, your incessant repetition is tiresome. You are not as clever as you suppose, just boring.

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 4 days (unless your case is rescheduled).

There are 18 days left until the end of June.

You have 203 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 50 days since April 23rd, 89 days since the Ides of March and 3,284 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Walt said...

Sid wrote: "Your statement is totally untrue, and even Walt-in-Durham and A Lawyer will support me on this jurisdiction issue."

I don't speak for A Lawyer, but I, for one, do not support you on the jurisdictional issue. I made clear above the way the state constitution gives individual District Attorneys jurisdiction to prosecute crimes only in their judicial district. That you fail to read and comprehend is solely on you.

"One recent example has to do with Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall considering whether or not to bring criminal charges against medical examiner Dr. Clay Nichols for his mishandling of evidence in a Cumberland County case. At the time of this matter, the medical examiner's office was situated at UNC-CH in Orange County."

That is because the issue was mishandling of evidence which was alleged to have taken place in Orange County. Thus, the Orange County District Attorney had the exclusive jurisdiction to bring charges. You will note, those charges were later dropped. In the situation you complain of, the alleged (though not very well alleged) perjury took place in Durham County. Thus falling under the exclusive prosecutorial jurisdiction of the Durham County District Attorney.

I know that you are willfully ignorant. That is why you file frivolous lawsuits and invariably lose them.

Walt-in-Durham

A Lawyer said...

For what it's worth, I agree with Walt's assessment at 11:03 AM.

Anonymous said...


Walt:

Can you confirm if Sid's day of reckoning scheduled for 6/16 has been rescheduled and, if so, what the new date is?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Kenny, Are you assisting Sid in his preparations for the hearing in Greensboro?

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 3 days (unless your case is rescheduled).

There are 17 days left until the end of June.

You have 202 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 51 days since April 23rd, 90 days since the Ides of March and 3,285 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Walt said...

Abe asked if Sid's hearing has been continued. It has. The new hearing date is June 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

Why would the hearing be delayed? Does this delay suggest anything about any sanctions Sid may face?

Anonymous said...

Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 14 days.

There are 17 days left until the end of June.

You have 202 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 51 days since April 23rd, 90 days since the Ides of March and 3,285 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Walt said...

Sid asked: "Is it your position, Walt, that the district attorney in North Carolina can ignore a complaint by a citizen about a crime?"

If it is outside her jurisdiction, she should. I have explained to you that each prosecutorial district has the exclusive jurisdiction to file and prosecute charges in that district. It is how we allocate prosecutorial resources in this state. At most, if someone brings a complaint to the wrong D.A. she should alert the correct D.A.

"Is it your position that a police officer can ignore a complaint from a citizen about a crime?"

As the Supreme Court has said, police have no duty to act on even a credible complaint. That said, municipal police have a larger jurisdiction than a District Attorney. Municipal police and Sheriff's have state wide jurisdiction. Company police are a different matter. Thus, the Raleigh Police Department can investigate a crime that took place in Asheville, where the North Carolina State University Police (a company police force) cannot.

That you refuse to learn is your downfall.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt said...

Anonymous at 4:13AM wrote: Why would the hearing be delayed? Does this delay suggest anything about any sanctions Sid may face?"

It's probably for the convenience of the court.

Walt-in-Durham

Anonymous said...

When will we get the next round of harr/hissy fit a2nonymous posts?

Fake Kenhyderal said...

Taking the 2 comments from Sid:

"So, you're saying that I should be confronting the Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall about the perjury in Crystal Mangum's case because the Daye autopsy was conducted at UNC-CH?"

"By the way, I will be busy for the next few days and unable to reply to comments until about the middle of next week... around the 15th."

I can only conclude that he is busy filing a lawsuit against Jim Woodall.....Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Where is the little man kenhyderal?

kenhyderal said...

My hands are a lot bigger then Donald Trump's

Anonymous said...

Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 13 days.

There are 16 days left until the end of June.

You have 201 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 52 days since April 23rd, 91 days since the Ides of March and 3,286 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

I wasn't referring to your physical characteristics.

Anonymous said...

from hissy fit:

"My hands are a lot bigger then Donald Trump's"

But your bias is as great if not greater than his. The only difference is that your bias is directed against a different group of people.

kenhyderal said...

Now tell us, race obsessed Dr. Anonymous who might that group of people be?

guiowen said...

It's quite clear Kenny is biased against anyone who doesn't buy his ridiculous story of the mystery rapists.

Anonymous said...

more clap trap from hissyt fit:

"Now tell us, race obsessed Dr. Anonymous who might that group of people be?"

You hae been told on many occasions but remain in denial. The group of innocent men you persist in accusing of having raped crystal when there is absolutely no evidence crystal was raped. You have not presented any evidence to support your bias against them.

It is bias, not just another perspective on a situation.

kenhyderal said...

Well, at least for once you didn't accuse me of being biased against what you call "Caucasians", an outdated and discredited term, presently officially used, only, but erroneously, in policing, to describe people of Northern European ethnicity; those you consider white and whom you seemingly imply are superior. You seem to be recognizing the indefensibility of your pronouncements. Not unlike Donald Trump in that regard.

Anonymous said...

clap trap from hissy fit:

"Well, at least for once you didn't accuse me of being biased against what you call "Caucasians", an outdated and discredited term, presently officially used, only, but erroneously, in policing, to describe people of Northern European ethnicity; those you consider white and whom you seemingly imply are superior."

The source of your bias is your belief that crystal was raped by Caucasians.

"You seem to be recognizing the indefensibility of your pronouncements. Not unlike Donald Trump in that regard."

No, I am pointing out the indefensibility of why you are biased, your belief that crystal was raped.

Anonymous said...

from hissy fit(again):


"Well, at least for once you didn't accuse me of being biased against what you call "Caucasians", an outdated and discredited term, presently officially used, only, but erroneously, in policing, to describe people of Northern European ethnicity; those you consider white and whom you seemingly imply are superior."

hissy fit, I imply anything that any ethnic group is superior.

What is coming to the surface is your low self esteem, that you feel inferior to others who are more accomplished than you are, and you resent it.

kenhyderal said...

What makes you think I have low self esteem? What makes you think I feel inferior to others? How do you measure accomplishment by wealth, by education, by feats of endeavor? That's not the way The Lord makes such calculations. That's maybe something you'd want to look into.

Anonymous said...

more claptrap from kenny hissy fit:

"What makes you think I have low self esteem? What makes you think I feel inferior to others?"

Your persistent behavior in trying to convince people that certain people of a certain ethnic group committed a rape when no rape ever happened. You are on a crusade to tear other people down. People with enough self esteem don't try to tear others down

"How do you measure accomplishment by wealth, by education, by feats of endeavor? That's not the way The Lord makes such calculations. That's maybe something you'd want to look into."

I measure accomplishment, for myself and others by what I have done, by what others have done. And, unlike you, I have no reason to tear down other people who have accomplished things.

So go and spout more clap trap about how I should feel ashamed of myself. It is, again, you hurling popcorn at me from a range of 500 yards.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
So tell us how the Lord measures accomplishments. Does He appreciate murderers (or murderesses) and the people who try to set them free?

Anonymous said...


Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 12 days.

There are 15 days left until the end of June.

You have 200 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 53 days since April 23rd, 92 days since the Ides of March and 3,287 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Anonymous said...

Kenny,

You have stated that you believe Sid should not be exempt from the Statute of Limitations - why aren't you calling on him to Dismiss his lawsuit against Duke, since it is absolutely barred by the Statute, which you agree should apply, and tell him to refocus his efforts elsewhere?

Nifong Supporter said...


guiowen said...
Kenhyderal,
So tell us how the Lord measures accomplishments. Does He appreciate murderers (or murderesses) and the people who try to set them free?


gui, mon ami, you miss the point... the point being that Crystal Mangum is not a murderess. She is innocent. Me, and others advocating and trying to free Ms. Mangum are not trying to free a murderess, but are trying to liberate a wrongly convicted innocent. Our efforts are no different than Christine Mumma's (the executive director of NC Center on Actual Innocence) attempts to free Joseph Sledge and Gregory Taylor.

Consider yourself elucidated.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid:

You will be standing tall before the man in 12 days.

There are 15 days left until the end of June.

You have 200 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 53 days since April 23rd, 92 days since the Ides of March and 3,287 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL


Abe, thank you for the countdown. Have no fear, I will accomplish my objectives soon.
Within a matter of days you will become aware of cracks in the conspiratorial walls of injustice. Just keep your peepers open and cerumen cleared from your external auditory canals.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...
Taking the 2 comments from Sid:

"So, you're saying that I should be confronting the Orange County D.A. Jim Woodall about the perjury in Crystal Mangum's case because the Daye autopsy was conducted at UNC-CH?"

"By the way, I will be busy for the next few days and unable to reply to comments until about the middle of next week... around the 15th."

I can only conclude that he is busy filing a lawsuit against Jim Woodall.....Thoughts?


Hey, Fake K.

Good guess, but EEEEEEEEEEEEh*... wrong.
It would be costly and a waste of time. The reasons for filing against Freeman are based in large measure on her repeated dismissive treatment of my complaints of criminality, and her willingness to take action on a so-called "perjured" statement by Deputy Robert Davis.

Instead, my time has been spent, and is being spent, on serious actions and activities (all, by the way, of which are legal and moral) to effect the imminent release and exoneration of Crystal Mangum.

Consider yourself corrected and elucidated.

*sound effect for wrong buzzer

Anonymous said...

claptrap from harr:

"gui, mon ami, you miss the point... the point being that Crystal Mangum is not a murderess. She is innocent. Me, and others advocating and trying to free Ms. Mangum are not trying to free a murderess, but are trying to liberate a wrongly convicted innocent. Our efforts are no different than Christine Mumma's (the executive director of NC Center on Actual Innocence) attempts to free Joseph Sledge and Gregory Taylor."

crystal is a convicted murderess. She was a convicted criminal before she became the false accuser in the Duke Rape Hoax. Your efforts are not at all similar to the efforts to free Joseph Sledge and Gregory Taylor.

Your guilt presumption in thr Duke Rape Hoax, your attempts to pass off the felony murders of Tyrone Baker and Demetrius Greene as self defense by Shan Carter show you can not distinguish between guilt and innocence.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Sid asked: "Is it your position, Walt, that the district attorney in North Carolina can ignore a complaint by a citizen about a crime?"

If it is outside her jurisdiction, she should. I have explained to you that each prosecutorial district has the exclusive jurisdiction to file and prosecute charges in that district. It is how we allocate prosecutorial resources in this state. At most, if someone brings a complaint to the wrong D.A. she should alert the correct D.A.

"Is it your position that a police officer can ignore a complaint from a citizen about a crime?"

As the Supreme Court has said, police have no duty to act on even a credible complaint. That said, municipal police have a larger jurisdiction than a District Attorney. Municipal police and Sheriff's have state wide jurisdiction. Company police are a different matter. Thus, the Raleigh Police Department can investigate a crime that took place in Asheville, where the North Carolina State University Police (a company police force) cannot.

That you refuse to learn is your downfall.

Walt-in-Durham


Hey, Walt.

Let me attempt to rephrase my query. Your position, as I understand it, is that a jurisdictional issue does not compel Wake County D.A. Lorrin Freeman to legally act with regards to learning of criminality associated with a case arising out of Durham County. However, despite Freeman not having a legal duty to take action in Mangum's case upon learning of perjury by the medical examiner, do you believe that she has a moral obligation to take action... such as alerting the Durham County district attorney?

I eagerly and enthusiastically await your response.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Abe asked if Sid's hearing has been continued. It has. The new hearing date is June 27, 2016 at 10:00 AM.

Walt-in-Durham


Hah! What's up, Abe? Don't you trust me? I would never lie or mislead you or any of the commenters to this site.

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