Sunday, May 6, 2012

Crystal Mangum’s hour of terror the morning of April 3, 2011 to which the mainstream media turns a blind eye



The following narrative is the product of a brief but in-depth direct conversation with Crystal Mangum (the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser) about the specific rampage by Reginald Daye during the early morning hours of Sunday, April 3, 2011 which resulted in his being stabbed and Ms. Mangum charged with first degree murder and larceny.
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 In 2011, Reginald Daye was an African American male in his mid forties who was an alcoholic and imbibed prodigious amounts of beer, whiskey, and other ethanol-based liquids. Around the first part of March 2011, Crystal Mangum and her three children moved into Daye’s apartment, with Ms. Mangum contributing a washing machine and other of her possessions and financial assistance to the living arrangement. Daye, who had recently returned to work after a layoff as a commercial painter, was in arrears on his apartment rent and was threatened with eviction at the time Ms. Mangum moved in with him.
 Sometime shortly after moving into the apartment with Mr. Daye, Ms. Mangum entered into an intimate relationship with him. It was at about this time that she learned from Daye, himself, that he had battered previous girlfriends. She also became of his addiction to alcohol as he drank up to a case of beer (24 cans) a day during weekdays, and a gallon of whiskey on weekends. Crystal Mangum also became aware of Reginald Daye’s possessive nature and jealous side, which resulted in his confiscating her cell phone for his own personal use and to control the calls which she made.

On March 25, 2011 and April 1, 2011, Daye purchased a cashier’s check, with both checks totaling $700.00, the amount of April’s rent. The apartment landlord was listed as the payee and Reginald Daye as the remitter. Sometime after their purchase, Daye gave the checks to Ms. Mangum with instructions to drop them off at the rental office on Monday, April 4, 2011 during its office hours… a time during which Daye was scheduled to be at work. For safekeeping, Ms. Mangum placed both checks in her purse.
 On Saturday evening, April 2, 2011, Mangum and Daye attended a birthday party. Daye drank heavily, and Crystal had two Jell-o shots (Jell-o made with a mixture of gin) and a drink with gin. Crystal estimates the party began around 11:00 pm and that she and Daye returned home sometime after 2:00 am.

Upon arriving back at Daye’s apartment, the nightmare began when, according to Crystal, Daye started into his accusatory jealous rant. With no previous history of physical abuse against Crystal, Daye began punching Crystal in the face. In addition to punching her, Mangum claims that Daye spit on her. The assault by Daye took place in the living room, and Ms. Mangum retreated to the master bedroom where he caught her on the bed. He tried to pick her up as she clung to the mattress which was then deposited on the floor along with Ms. Mangum. She then ran to the bedroom’s bathroom to seek refuge and locked the bathroom door behind her. A furious Reginald Daye proceeded to kick the door off its hinges. Daye then grabbed Crystal by the hair, leaving clumps of her hair at the site, and carried her back into the bedroom.

Daye told her that he wanted her to leave his apartment immediately, but when she scurried to comply he held her and told her that she wasn’t going anywhere. Crystal was cornered in the bedroom and the apartment by Daye who wandered off and momentarily left her alone in the bedroom. He returned to the bedroom about five or ten minutes later with a pot of boiling water. Daye left and shortly returned from the kitchen with a set of steak knives which he threw at Mangum, who tried to shield herself behind the mattress.

Crystal said that Daye began having what appeared to be a psychotic conversation with an imaginary person with the discussion centering about his intention of killing her. Shortly thereafter, Reginald Daye was astride Mangum on the floor next to the mattress and he gouged at her face with his fingernails leaving small lacerations around her left eye. In a futile effort she tried to push Daye off of her but to no avail. Daye placed both of his hands on her throat and began strangling her. It was at this time, with her head throbbing, that she managed to grab a steak knife that was lying around and she blindly stabbed Daye once in the left torso. (Daye never attempted to block repeated knife thrusts and did not incur “defensive wounds” to his left upper extremity as described in the April 14, 2011 autopsy report.)

After sustaining the wound, Daye got up off of Mangum and exclaimed, “You stabbed me, Bitch!” Crystal quickly retrieved her purse (containing the cashier’s checks) and raced towards the door and ran out into the dark night and the shadows and concealment of the woods nearby. She believes that Daye was in pursuit for some time after the stabbing but is unaware when exactly he gave up the chase.

Crystal Mangum estimates this horrific episode lasted approximately an hour. After her escape, she walked to her aunt’s residence.

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The above scenario was given by Crystal Mangum of events that transpired during the early morning hours of April 3, 2011, and they are supported by evidence of the crime scene as presented in prosecution’s discovery. The prosecution’s story, which is illogical and flawed, wants the public to believe that Crystal Mangum stabbed Daye in the commission of the theft of his money.

This makes absolutely no sense as Ms. Mangum did not take Daye’s money and was not even charged with taking Daye’s money. She was charged for taking two cashier’s checks given to her earlier by Daye that she could not even convert for her own personal use… checks that she put away in her purse long before the incident involving the stabbing. It is reasonable that Crystal Mangum did not have the presence of mind, while fleeing for her life after stabbing Daye, to stop before going out the door to pull both cashier’s checks out of her purse, to leave them inside the premises, and then to continue with her escape outside.

The prosecution theory doesn’t make any sense when one considers the apartment’s disarray, with the bathroom door knocked off its hinges, tufts of Crystal’s hair in the apartment, and the physical injuries to Crystal’s face. Does the police believe Crystal kicked in the door? Does the police believe the brass knuckles belonged to Crystal? How does the police explain clumps of Crystal’s hair at the scene?

Sometime prior to the stabbing which took place around 3:00 am, it is my understanding that Crystal and Daye were outside arguing, and that Ms. Mangum approached the police officer, who I believe was called to the scene by a neighbor in the apartment complex. She pleaded for his help, but was instructed to go along with Daye back into their apartment to continue their argument. I don’t have all of the particulars of this or the timeline, so I did not include discussion of it in this blog. In the future, I will update this incident as I accumulate more firsthand information.

To show how selective, skewed, one-sided the mainstream media’s reporting of this incident has been, a link is provided below that will give a critique of but a small sampling of the media’s presentations.

LINK: http://www.justice4nifong.com/direc/flog/flogblog17.html

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Mark Orgel said...

1. CGM knew Daye was abusive to women, drank a case of beer a day and a gallon of whiskey on the weekend, yet she still moved in with and entered into an intimate relationship with him? This is proof of either insanity or extreme stupidity.

2. Where is the documentation of the injuries sustained during this hour-long assault? The police reports you have posted mention only a small laceration near her left eye, one on her left hand, and possibly a swollen (or chapped) lip.

3. No neighbor heard the hour-long fracas that included the bashing in of the bathroom door? Are we supposed to believe that Daye was able to brutally assault CGM for an hour, break down the bathroom door, throw knives without anybody calling the police?

4. CGM had no opportunity to leave while, say, Daye's was supposedly boiling water? At his reported level of intoxication, she should have been able to knock him over with a strong breath.

5. Daye assaulted CGM for an hour yet she did not so much as scratch him until she blindly grabs a random knife, swings wildly and just happens to land a blow that pierces Daye's lung, kidney, diaphragm, stomach, spleen and colon?

6. It is incredibly well documented that CGM is incapable of telling the truth. Review her numerous statements to the police, the court, and the press after the Duke rape hoax, and her 3 "identifications". Interviewing CGM is the best way to find out what absolutely did not happen.

7. The clumps of hair mean nothing. CGM may have cut them herself. If forensic examination shows that they are hers, and that they were pulled out by the root, then get back to me.

8. Each time she was able to run, CGM retreats further into the apartment? This makes no sense. Anybody in that situation would attempt to flee, not continue to corner themselves. Daye "corners her in the bedroom, wanders off" and CGM doesn't flee given that opportunity? Or scream for help?

Your/CGM's story makes no sense, defies logic, and is not corroborated by any objective evidence. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the charges to be dropped just yet. Maybe her attorney can investigate your claims and gather some evidence...oh wait. You chased him off.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inny) H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Your admission that this is Crystal's account of what happened in and of itself makes it suspect.

I suspect, just like the false allegations of rape she made against the Lacrosse players, there will be no corroborating witnesses, no corroborating evidence.

Anonymous said...

Bull SXXX. Total bull.

Anonymous said...

I have been following this blog for a long time and I have to say that I think Mr. Harr has done a reasonable job of presenting a case for Ms. Magnum. Meaning if you look at any lawyer for the defense they try to use every trick in the book to get their client off. This is what lawyers do, they only have to prove doubt. Mr. Harr has done that, sure some of it may be off base and a little cooky or just made up, but I think there are parts that might hold up in front of jury to cast reasonable doubt.

If this is Ms. Magnum's defense(it would seem to be since she has given Mr. Harr documents from the case) then let it happen and see if the prosecution can rip it to shreds.

Anonymous said...

So, first she stabbed Daye with a paring knife -- know it's a steak knife.

originally the story was that it was a "platonic" relationship -- now it was an "intimate" relationship.

One must wonder what part of the story will change next.

Anonymous said...

No evidence that tufts of hair were hers, or, were pulled out by Daye.
No evidence of the beating she supposedly took. One minor, barely noticeable facial laceration....not even seen by two of the three officers....one chapped lip.
alcohol in both of them but no evidence of alcoholism in Daye
no record of prior abuse for Daye BUT record of physical violence, property destruction and child abuse for Mangum.
Mangum did NOT call 911; her child called, sometime later, after the inital call from Daye's neighbor/relative.... Mangum TOLD the child exactly what to say while she was rolling around, apparently intoxicated, on the floor
No evidence that Daye three any knives; just as likely that Mangum three them
No evidence that Daye kicked in the bathroom door, on that or any other night; just as likely Mangum kicked it or fell into it, in her drunkenness
No evidence that the tube was misplaced. Harr is trying to say that because Daye threw up, the only and immediate cause of the vomiting was a misplaced tube. Try again, Harr. False and misleading assumption. Not worthy of any supposed physician.
No evidence of prior record of public drunkenness for Daye; convictions for Mangum, including a Level three DUI.
This entire story is just another self-attention grabbing play by a pathetic old man who has serious mental and well as emotional impairment.

Walt said...

Let's get some facts straight. First, Crystal is no victim. She lied to start the lacrosse fiasco. That makes her the perpitrator.

Second, Crystal has a long history of not acting in her own best interest. This is another example. She, if we believe Sid, has just told a version of her story to someone who has no protection of the attorney client privilege. By telling her story to Sid, if she did, she both reveals her defense strategy and makes it possible for the state to call Sid as a witness. Further, by waiving the privilege, the Crystal has now opened herself to being called as a witness to impeach anything Sid might say. A double loss for any defense Crystal might be able to mount.

Finally, Sid knows well that even medical malpractice is not an intervening cause to excuse Crystal from Daye's homicide. I don't think there is evidence of medical malpractice, but it is unimportant to the felony murder issue that Crystal is facing. By ignoring the law, Sid and Crystal continue to prove that they have a fool for a client.

More than anything, I want Crystal to have a fair trial. (Something Nifong and Sid were and are quite willing to deny others, and indeed even Crystal.) But, for her to obtain a fair trial, she needs a good lawyer who is not handicapped by Crystal's uninformed decision to reveal her defense strategy well in advance of the trial.

Walt-in-Durham

Nifong Supporter said...


Mark Orgel said...
1. CGM knew Daye was abusive to women, drank a case of beer a day and a gallon of whiskey on the weekend, yet she still moved in with and entered into an intimate relationship with him? This is proof of either insanity or extreme stupidity.

2. Where is the documentation of the injuries sustained during this hour-long assault? The police reports you have posted mention only a small laceration near her left eye, one on her left hand, and possibly a swollen (or chapped) lip.

3. No neighbor heard the hour-long fracas that included the bashing in of the bathroom door? Are we supposed to believe that Daye was able to brutally assault CGM for an hour, break down the bathroom door, throw knives without anybody calling the police?

4. CGM had no opportunity to leave while, say, Daye's was supposedly boiling water? At his reported level of intoxication, she should have been able to knock him over with a strong breath.

5. Daye assaulted CGM for an hour yet she did not so much as scratch him until she blindly grabs a random knife, swings wildly and just happens to land a blow that pierces Daye's lung, kidney, diaphragm, stomach, spleen and colon?

6. It is incredibly well documented that CGM is incapable of telling the truth. Review her numerous statements to the police, the court, and the press after the Duke rape hoax, and her 3 "identifications". Interviewing CGM is the best way to find out what absolutely did not happen.

7. The clumps of hair mean nothing. CGM may have cut them herself. If forensic examination shows that they are hers, and that they were pulled out by the root, then get back to me.

8. Each time she was able to run, CGM retreats further into the apartment? This makes no sense. Anybody in that situation would attempt to flee, not continue to corner themselves. Daye "corners her in the bedroom, wanders off" and CGM doesn't flee given that opportunity? Or scream for help?

Your/CGM's story makes no sense, defies logic, and is not corroborated by any objective evidence. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the charges to be dropped just yet. Maybe her attorney can investigate your claims and gather some evidence...oh wait. You chased him off.

Hey, Mark.
I'll take your comments number by number.
1.) Ms. Mangum learned of Daye's abusive ways and drinking habits after she moved in with him.
2.) Documentation of Crystal's injuries are on an EMS report that is posted.
3.) Neighbor's may not have heard the door being kicked in, but police reports document it was.
4.) The bedroom was near the rear of the apartment, and when he momentarily left her alone, she had no idea what he was doing. Regarding his intoxication, being an alcoholic, he had a high tolerance and could function normally at a blood alcohol level that would leave a non-alcoholic adult in a stupor.
5.) As the operative report states, the left lung, diaphragm, stomach, and left kidney were not damaged by the stab wound.
6.) It was malpractice for police not to interview her... then lie and state that she refused to talk about what had happened. Doesn't make sense. Why would she refuse to give authorities her side of the story?
7.) Clumps of hair suggests they were pulled from Crystal's scalp and not clippings from a hair-cut.
8.) Fact is that Crystal tried to lock herself in the bathroom to keep Daye away from her. He merely kicked in the door.
Face it, Mark, Crystal's story makes sense and fits with the evidence. How else do you explain the bathroom door being kicked in, the clumps of hair on the floor, Crystal's physical injuries, knives scattered around?

I'd like to hear your theory.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inny) H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Your admission that this is Crystal's account of what happened in and of itself makes it suspect.

I suspect, just like the false allegations of rape she made against the Lacrosse players, there will be no corroborating witnesses, no corroborating evidence.

The corroborating evidence can be found in the prosecution's discovery that has been painstakingly presented in the past four or five blogs. Have you bothered to look at them?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
I have been following this blog for a long time and I have to say that I think Mr. Harr has done a reasonable job of presenting a case for Ms. Magnum. Meaning if you look at any lawyer for the defense they try to use every trick in the book to get their client off. This is what lawyers do, they only have to prove doubt. Mr. Harr has done that, sure some of it may be off base and a little cooky or just made up, but I think there are parts that might hold up in front of jury to cast reasonable doubt.

If this is Ms. Magnum's defense(it would seem to be since she has given Mr. Harr documents from the case) then let it happen and see if the prosecution can rip it to shreds.

It is refreshing to get a comment from an individual with an objective mind. As you study the proseuction's discovery, it will become more apparent that Ms. Mangum was the victim of Mr. Daye and the victim of the Durham District Attorney's office.

Anonymous said...

It's pretty simple, Bro. They both drank too much, got in an argument, pushed, shoved, trashed the apartment and she stabbed him.....likely for the same reasons she went after the last boyfriend, damaged his car, trashed the apartment, and resisted arrest. Likely for the same reasons she stole a car, drove drunk, and tried to run over an officer. (2002). Likely for the same reasons she was drunk/taking drugs and selling it on the internet through an "escort" service.
Likely for the same reasons that allowed her to LIE in an attempt to extort money from the LAX guys that backfired in her face.........it all comes down to character...of which she has NONE

Anonymous said...

No, it is NOT a reasonable version of events because there is ZERO evidence to support this fantasy and because both Harr and Mangum have a long and well documented history of lying.
What Harr has done is reprehensible.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
So, first she stabbed Daye with a paring knife -- know it's a steak knife.

originally the story was that it was a "platonic" relationship -- now it was an "intimate" relationship.

One must wonder what part of the story will change next.

The type of knife used to stab Daye, and the nature of her relationship to Daye, was first based upon sources. However, after I received copies of prosecution discovery and spoke directly with Ms. Mangum, I changed my previous comments to represent the truth. Surely, you would want me to rectify an incorrect statement once I learned of its inaccuracy. That's all I've done.

Anonymous said...

This blog has nothing to do with supporting Nifong or Mangum, folks....and everything to do with Harr's own purient need for attention.
He is a sad little man....

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
No evidence that tufts of hair were hers, or, were pulled out by Daye.
No evidence of the beating she supposedly took. One minor, barely noticeable facial laceration....not even seen by two of the three officers....one chapped lip.
alcohol in both of them but no evidence of alcoholism in Daye
no record of prior abuse for Daye BUT record of physical violence, property destruction and child abuse for Mangum.
Mangum did NOT call 911; her child called, sometime later, after the inital call from Daye's neighbor/relative.... Mangum TOLD the child exactly what to say while she was rolling around, apparently intoxicated, on the floor
No evidence that Daye three any knives; just as likely that Mangum three them
No evidence that Daye kicked in the bathroom door, on that or any other night; just as likely Mangum kicked it or fell into it, in her drunkenness
No evidence that the tube was misplaced. Harr is trying to say that because Daye threw up, the only and immediate cause of the vomiting was a misplaced tube. Try again, Harr. False and misleading assumption. Not worthy of any supposed physician.
No evidence of prior record of public drunkenness for Daye; convictions for Mangum, including a Level three DUI.
This entire story is just another self-attention grabbing play by a pathetic old man who has serious mental and well as emotional impairment.

I'll just comment on the tube placement. First, the naso-gastric tube was properly introduce through the nose into the stomach. Once the contrast agent was administered through the tube, Daye vomited. Then, to protect the airway and give oxygen the decision was made to intubate Daye (with an endotracheal tube). This is when the mistake was made as the endotracheal tube was not placed in the airway. Lack of oxygen led to brain death and cardiac arrest. Once CPR was started, the mis-positioned endotracheal tube was removed, and another one introduced which was properly placed and allowed for oxygenated blood to revive the heart, but not the brain cells.

That should remove any confusion you have about the medical situation.

Anonymous said...

What I find interesting is how Harr creates an entire fantasy and then tries to engage debate as though the fantasy were some kind of worthy topic for discussion. It's the same sort of thing that happens to teenagers when they read zombie books and then begin having discussions about the best methods for killing zombies. All rubbish, all garbage, all worthless and nothing more than humorous pasttime reading.

Harr takes facts in evidence and pretends he is somehow better prepared, more able, and more experienced at deduction than defense attorneys with extensive case history. Mangum lost an excellent defense attorney in Shell through her own fault. Now she has this idiot using her just the same way Vincent Clark and so many others used her. The duke 88, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Victoria Peterson, Nifong,Nancy Grace, Wendy Murphy, the Black Panthers and Harr.....all trying to drum up media attention for themselves by pretending false loyalty to a criminal who can't get out of her own way and whose repeated criminal acts have been so wrongly excused by those who care nothing for her and who care only for their own personal agendas. What a sorry state of affairs when a man who claims to be a physician builds a house of lies and .....then....no doubt....refuses to accept the inevitable blame when the roof lands on Mangum's head.

Nifong Supporter said...


Walt said...
Let's get some facts straight. First, Crystal is no victim. She lied to start the lacrosse fiasco. That makes her the perpitrator.

Second, Crystal has a long history of not acting in her own best interest. This is another example. She, if we believe Sid, has just told a version of her story to someone who has no protection of the attorney client privilege. By telling her story to Sid, if she did, she both reveals her defense strategy and makes it possible for the state to call Sid as a witness. Further, by waiving the privilege, the Crystal has now opened herself to being called as a witness to impeach anything Sid might say. A double loss for any defense Crystal might be able to mount.

Finally, Sid knows well that even medical malpractice is not an intervening cause to excuse Crystal from Daye's homicide. I don't think there is evidence of medical malpractice, but it is unimportant to the felony murder issue that Crystal is facing. By ignoring the law, Sid and Crystal continue to prove that they have a fool for a client.

More than anything, I want Crystal to have a fair trial. (Something Nifong and Sid were and are quite willing to deny others, and indeed even Crystal.) But, for her to obtain a fair trial, she needs a good lawyer who is not handicapped by Crystal's uninformed decision to reveal her defense strategy well in advance of the trial.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, mon ami, you're trying to say that because, in your opinion, Crystal lied in the Duke Lacrosse case she is automatically a perpetrator in any crime? For example, if she's walking down the street and a mugger sneaks up behind her, clobbers her on the head with a baton, grabs her purse and runs, that because she supposedly "lied" in the Duke Lacrosse case, she's the perpetrator... and the thug who stole her purse in this hypothetical is the victim?

Regarding Crystal's defense... truth is her best defense, something that the prosecution and the media do not want to come forward. Even her defense attorney seemed to be reluctant for the truth to be known.

Mark my words, the truth will set Crystal Mangum free.

Thereby go ye enlightened.

Anonymous said...

No Harr, Not correct at all. You are drawing false conclusions from records that simply do not support your version of events. There is not one word in the record, which supports your false idea that the endo tube was misplaced
I also agree with Walt. Proximate cause clearly and definitively points to Mangum.....whether it's first or second degree, or even manslaughter....is the question. YOU can preach all you want. Lucky for Mangum, she might, someday, go to trial...if you stay the hell out of her life

Anonymous said...

Harr would have the public believe that a woman with nine prior convictions, a well documented history of lying, multiple convictions involving violence toward others, and a history of alcohol-related offenses (back to 2002) is....per him.....the helpless victim of a violent attack by a man with NO HISTORY of proven violence toward women. Amazing how such bull sXXX spews out of his mouth.

Anonymous said...

Harr repeatedly claims "tufts of brown hair" were in the apartment. Not documented. Not shown to be Mangum's. No record of complaint by Mangum regarding ANY of the violence she NOW supposedly says Daye launched against her. No patches of lost hair in photos, no evidence of beating in mug shot.
None of the documents in this crime should have been handed over, much less published. Disgraceful behavior by an unethical man.

Anonymous said...

Harr for DA.....He learned to lie at the feet of the master...

Anonymous said...

"based upon sources". Harr, you are so full of bull! Do you honestly think your story holds water? what a waste of bandwidth.

Anonymous said...

wow, this story gets more ridiculous with every telling. What's next, BRO? Can't wait for the bull slinging to continue

Anonymous said...

Well, I am going to say this, on THIS web site, because Harr associates with and considers "courageous" one of the most bigoted and racist homophobic women in Durham. Her picture is on his web site, to his shame.
Tomorrow is election day in North Carolina and I urge my friends to vote their conscience. (Or, if you are Cline, you can vote your conscious). Whatever your beliefs, please DO vote.
If, like me, you believe in equal rights for ALL of us, and you believe in the equal right to marry, for all of us, then please vote AGAINT Amendment One. Vote against the bigotry and hate spewed by Peterson. Thanks, all.

Anonymous said...

well said, 12:05.
As to Mangum's fabrication and Harr's ridiculous intrusion into her defense process, I can only say I hope she enjoys prison. The charge of first degree murder may not stick. She may wind up with a lesser charge, for sure. But, based on the EVIDENCE, not the silly fable we have here, it sure looks like she is going to do some time for killing Reginald Daye.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I think Sidney is losin' it! There is nothing in Walt's post, that I read, that even hinted at the "once a liar, always a liar" theme Sidney tried to flame Walt about. The hard evidence of Mangum's prior convictions, as well as the soundly documented truth of her lax fraud lies, simply cannot be ignored. Harr and Kenny and Peterson Bigot may want to pretend Mangum is Mother Teresa.....but, anybody with a brain knows the truth. Mangum needs to face justice and be held accountable. Period. The truth, as Harr likes to say, will not set mangum free unless a jury finds her not guilty. We shall see....

Anonymous said...

In durham, anything is possible in with jury. They could find Mangum not guilty and crown her Prom Queen.

Anonymous said...

Agree with walt. Sid and mangum have become The state's best friends. The prosecution will eviscerate this cocknbull story. Pun intended.

guiowen said...

Actually, the way I see it (I'm serious this time) is this:

Sidney (probably working with Mike Nifong) would like to get CGM acquitted. So the two or three of them dream up some story that may work. They throw it at us, until we shoot it full of holes. They then see whether there is any little bit of it that survived.
They repeat the process with a somewhat different story. After ten or twelve iterations, they hope to have some story that will fly. I can't imagine they'll get her acquitted, but they might get off with manslaughter. Who knows what a Durham jury might decide?

Meanwhile, of course, CGM is in jail. This is unpleasant for her, of course, but it allows her to play the victim.

Anonymous said...

Indeed.. Guiowen. Can't you just see nifong in his bathrobe at the kitchen tble, plotting out how to use the ever malleable Mangum.. Wht a riot

kenhyderal said...

@ Anonymous 12:05 PM " Come to the "Just Society" in Canada. Cut and Pasted from Wikipedia: "On July 20, 2005, Canada became the fourth country in the world and the first country in the Americas to legalize same-sex marriage nationwide with the enactment of the Civil Marriage Act which provided a gender-neutral marriage definition. Court decisions, starting in 2003, each already legalized same-sex marriage in eight out of ten provinces and one of three territories, whose residents comprised about 90% of Canada's population. Before passage of the Act, more than 3,000 same-sex couples had already married in those areas.[1] Most legal benefits commonly associated with marriage had been extended to cohabiting same-sex couples since 1999.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist:

"It was malpractice for police not to interview her... then lie and state that she refused to talk about what had happened. Doesn't make sense. Why would she refuse to give authorities her side of the story? "

SIDN(inn)EY makes another unsupported allegation.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The corroborating evidence can be found in the prosecution's discovery that has been painstakingly presented in the past four or five blogs. Have you bothered to look at them?"

Those documents offer no corroboration of the claims you make on behalf of the false accuser.

Mark Orgel said...

Well now we know why Victoria Peterson will never move to Canada.

For a bunch of people who are fighting against the social injustices supposedly perpetrated on CGM, the FOCM certainly seem to be an intolerant bunch. Peterson's anti-gay rants are well known, and head FOCM D J Register is a raging anti-Semite. Register, according to the N&O once forced the removal of 2 menorahs from a Durham holiday display, while stating that a Christmas tree and Kwanzaa Symbols should stay. Register sucks the government teat (funded by the brow sweat of taxpayers such as myself), living on disability, but is able-bodied enough to conduct illegal nursing home inspections, attend school and litigate his denial of food stamp benefits.

I guess birds of a feather really do flock together.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypoceite)ARR(acist:

"I'll just comment on the tube placement. First, the naso-gastric tube was properly introduce through the nose into the stomach. Once the contrast agent was administered through the tube, Daye vomited. Then, to protect the airway and give oxygen the decision was made to intubate Daye (with an endotracheal tube). This is when the mistake was made as the endotracheal tube was not placed in the airway. Lack of oxygen led to brain death and cardiac arrest. Once CPR was started, the mis-positioned endotracheal tube was removed, and another one introduced which was properly placed and allowed for oxygenated blood to revive the heart, but not the brain cells."

You omit the fact that none of this would have transpired had Crystal not stabbed Reginald Daye.

The legal doctrine is, if you injure someone and that individual dies as a complication of the medical treatment necessitated by the emergency, you are not off the hook for responsibility for the death.

Just ask your friend, Professor Coleman

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The type of knife used to stab Daye, and the nature of her relationship to Daye, was first based upon sources. However, after I received copies of prosecution discovery and spoke directly with Ms. Mangum, I changed my previous comments to represent the truth. Surely, you would want me to rectify an incorrect statement once I learned of its inaccuracy. That's all I've done."

What you have done is fail once to come up with a plausible story which would exonerate Crystal, so you discard it and come up with another story. Your second attempt to exonerate Crystal is also not plausible.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Mark my words, the truth will set Crystal Mangum free."

We have been marking your words. Meanwhile, all you have been marking is time, while making multiple unsupported allegations.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"It is refreshing to get a comment from an individual with an objective mind. As you study the proseuction's discovery, it will become more apparent that Ms. Mangum was the victim of Mr. Daye and the victim of the Durham District Attorney's office."

SIDN(inn)EY, a number of us have reviewed the documents you have posted, including the ones you illegally posted, and have found no corroboration of the claims you make.

Repeating unsupported allegations do not make them true.

Anonymous said...

Kenny (or should that be Vincent?), we're stunned that you have discovered the purpose of quotation marks.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Mark my words, the truth will set Crystal Mangum free."

How long have we been marking your words that you would force the NC State Bar to restore Mike NI(ncompoop)FONG"S law license?

How long have we marked your words that you would prevail in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke University?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr and Dr. kenhyderal,

I attended high school with Crystal Mangum, and I know I speak for many of our classmates when I say how proud I am of Crystal, a Navy veteran and NCCU honors graduate. Please continue your efforts not to let others tear her down with their malicious lies.

Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

kenhyderal said...
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kenhyderal said...

Right on Malek. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..

May 7, 2012 8:46 PM

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility."

You got it wrong, KEN(inny)(why am I not surprised). The vicious slander came from Crystal, who falsely accused three innocent men of raping her, and from Mike NI(ncompoop)FONG,who wrongfully prosecuted them in order to gain political advantage.

A woman who steals a vehicle while drunk, leads police on a hazardous high speed chase, then tries to run down a police officer(all documented by contemporary police records) is no upstanding citizen.

Here's another metaphor for you, so try and think about it. You would say we are wrong about Adolph Hitler because we never met him. A lot of people who did thought he was a great guy.

Anonymous said...

More Jeopardy: Crystal Mangum’s hour of terror the morning of April 3, 2011 to which the mainstream media turns a blind eye

Question: What is another myth SIDN(inn)EY fails to create?

Anonymous said...

Yeah right malek. In 2010 mangum had five convictions . So now her conviction record stands at nine. Real nice. Graduating with honors from NCCU? Ooooooo, ther's an achievement! Have you read examples of Cline's writing? By the way NCCU expelled her. I guess the administration is part of the grand conspiracy too. Not a prostitute? Five male samples in and on her......none from anybody at the lax party......a paid driver to take her on dates to motels......please......spare me. Maybe she just liked a lot of men. A good mother? Right.........a child twice calling 911 because of violence.
Oh yeah......mangum is just poor sweet victimized mother of the year. And big bad evil white people are all just ganging up on her. Sure, pal. You betcha.

Anonymous said...

Malek Williams:

"Navy veteran" Crystal Mangum did not complete her enlistment in the Navy. She was discharged after serving less than two years after becoming pregnant.

Anonymous said...

Malek Williams:

In another blog, you refer to SIDN(inn)EY as an experienced physician.

SIDN(inn)EY, by his own account, was an ER physician. That means he had little to no experience performing either surgery or autopsies.

Yet, SIDN(inn)EY is declaring the autopsy on Reginald Daye bogus and falsified.

John F. Lilly was an experienced physician(google http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaX1tQakBvI).

Anonymous said...

Mangum: Criminal record, proven liar, proven violent, proven drunk driver, proven destroyer of other people's property.
Yeah, she's a real sweetheart. Just the kind you'd want to take home to meet your Mother, Malek.

Harr refuses to publish his CV to prove that he has expertise in surgery, forensics, autopsy.

Kenny (aka ken edwards) claims to be bosom pals with Mangum. Send her some bail money, bro.

Malek, if you think Sister is such a fine upstanding woman who is the poor downtrodden victim of evil white oppressors, I suggest you bail her backside out of jail and let her come live in your neighborhood, or perhaps with your family.

Anonymous said...

Hmmmmm, Harr says there is some grand conspiracy out to get Mangum. Kenny says the judge was right to describe mangum as a good mother. which is it, boys? did abramson not get the memo about the KKK meeting or what, Harr? since this comment from the judge was after the ninth conviction and before the murder charge, I guess, yeah, well, there must have been a period of, say, five seconds, where Mangum was sober, and holding down a steady gig pole vaulting.

Anonymous said...

Walt is right. Crystal Mangum deserves a fair trial, represented by competent counsel, with a jury of her peers. If she can't get a fair trial in Durham, then the venue ought to be changed. Her attorney, who was HIGHLY competent, quit the case because of Harr's idiotic intervention and because of Mangum's stupid decisions.
Nonetheless, she deserves a fair trial. Harr seems to think she does not because, by his actions, he has damaged her case.

Anonymous said...

Ah, Malek Williams gives us a character reference for Mangum. Isn't that sweet. Gosh, Kenny, you two ought to have a meet-up down at the jail, wave some signs with Harr and Bigot Peterson....and bail poor Sister Victim ought.
Has anybody got a kleenex?

Anonymous said...

Questions:
1. If Sister is so blameless, why hasn't the infamous group of 88 come to her defense?
2. Where's Jesse? Where's Al?
3. Where's Wendy and Nancy G.?
4. Mangum got the last set of convictions after a jury found her guilty. The arson charge was dropped when they could not agree. Was the jury of her peers part of the grand Rae Evans conspiracy?
5. Are all the surgeons and caregivers at Duke in on the grand conspiracy? Including the black ones who provided care for Mr. Daye?
6. Harr's actions have robbed Mangum of an experienced attorney. Was Harr's real purpose nothing more than an attempt on his part to put himself in the limelight, thinking he might get called at trial?
7. If Daye was such a raging alcoholic, how come there were NO signs of advanced disease in his liver?
8. Why did Mangum have her hands on PHI documents that she supposedly gave Harr? Who were the mystery people in the middle of this transaction? Why is she now claiming she did not give Harr permission to publish the documents?
9. If Daye was such a lousy woman-beating drunk, why/how was he holding a job, and giving Mangum and her children shelter? Was he a kind man with compassion, or a hellish alcoholic who tortured her with hot water and threw knives at her? How does Harr explain the FACT that the evidence contradicts every single word of the story he presents on this point?
10. If Mangum is such a sweetheart, why hasn't some business owner in the black community hired her? Why didn't Harr and his friends, back in 2010, see to it that she got a job other than pole vaulting IF she was such an innocent victim?

Anonymous said...

We are all kinda sick of hearing the whining from Harr, Kenny, Peterson, et al. If you think Mangum is innocent, go bail her out and pay for an attorney who you think is worthy.
Put up or shut up.

Anonymous said...

NONE of the police documentation support any sort of beating that Harr fantasizes about. There is one account that shows a superficial facial mark, and a swollen or chapped lip.....all of the accounts note that no treatment of any injuries was required. Several accounts describe either nothing or minor marks....which, of course, could come from all sorts of activity.
the mug photo shows nothing on her face.

Anonymous said...

All of us, even you, Harr have a reputation based on our past behavior. If we have a history of truth-telling, then we are known as someone who is honest and tells the truth. If we have a history of lying, that history follows us. Mangum has a long and well documented history of lying, therefore, building an entire story out of her account....which directly conflicts with hard evidence, is nonsense. If a competent attorney can make a case for self defense, at trial, before a jury.....then, goody for Mangum. However, by your actions, you have deliberately and willfully, and for personal reasons, set back Mangum's case. shame on you

Anonymous said...

Mangum will have a court appointed attorney....probably by now or soon. That attorney may, or may not, proceed with the same defense as Shella had planned.
Harr's actions are, without questions, directly motivated by a pathologic desire to be the center of attention. He knew his actions would damage Mangum and they certainly have.
Mangum, supposedly a college graduate (even from NCCU, which hardly ranks as a Harvard of the south), has to be held accountable for not only her past behavior when she stabbed Mr. Daye, but also her current behavior of (a)turning over confidential documents, (b)violating every standard of attorney client priv at her own peril, (c)telling more and more lies to suit/fit evidence, and (d)putting herself in her current predicament.
I recall how her shape-shifter stories changed constantly with the LAX case. An example: she swore to the SANE that the rapists did NOT use condoms....told the SANE this five times; it's documentec. Then, when the DNA results came out, she CHANGED her story and said, well, yeah, maybe they DID use condoms and that's why their DNA wasn't in/on her.
Her story now is changing, yet again.
Same old Mangum, same old Harr
Can we PLEASE bring this woman to trial, reach a verdict, and MOVE ON without her trash constantly cluttering up our lives?
Can somebody figure out how much money Mangum has cost those of us who pay taxes?

Mark Orgel said...

Malek Williams must be talking about some other Crystal Mangum. The Crystal Mangum that I am referring to...

1. Was discharged from the Navy after getting pregnant by a man other than her husband and repeatedly showing up to work drunk...

2. Stole a taxicab, led police on a high speed chase while driving drunk, on the wrong side of the road and without lights, crashed into a police cruiser and almost ran over a police officer...

3. Made repeated trips to UNC hospital requesting narcotic pain pills...

4. Admitted to drinking two 22-oz. beers and taking Flexeril prior to the Duke LAX party...

5. Repeatedly told the other "dancer" at the LAX party that she didn't want to leave because "there was more money to be made"...

6. Returned to stripping less than a week after the LAX party saying, "I'm going to get paid by the white boys"...

7. Did at least 4 private performances in the 3 days prior to the LAX party, including performing for a couple with a vibrator...

8. Had DNA from at least 5 men isolated from her rape kit, none of whom were LAX players...

9. Has been convicted of child abuse, as well as many other criminal acts...

10. Admitted that she took Ambien, methadone, Paxil and amitriptyline before her last meeting with the special prosecutor in the duke LAX case...

11. Falsely accused 3 Duke students of beating, raping and sodomizing her...

12. Stabbed a man, causing his death.

None of the above is really fodder for the alumni newsletter, nor is it the resume of "Mother of the Year".

Crystal may be a very warm, likable, person, but they said the same thing about Ted Bundy. There is more than enough evidence in the public record to say with a high level of certainty that she is an alcohol and drug abuser, a liar, and mentally ill.

That said, I have limited sympathy for Crystal. She has had many opportunities to turn her life around, and she has thrown every one away. After the incident with the stolen taxicab, she was able to bargain all the charges down to misdemeanors. She was hospitalized in 2005 for her mental illness. In the wake of the LAX rape hoax the North Carolina Attorney General declined to charge her with her crimes of making false accusations, instead urging her to get help for her psychiatric problems. Crystal could have used these opportunities to straighten up, but she didn't.

The ironic thing is, that I agree that Crystal is a victim. She has been victimized by Mike Nifong, Jesse Jackson, the Gang of 88, Wendy Murphy, Nancy Grace, and many others in and out of the media who used Crystal's story (false though it was) to further their own personal agenda, and then abandoned her when she was no longer useful to them. When victim turns into victimizer, however, there are consequences to be paid.

I believe Crystal continues to be victimized to this day by Sidney Harr, Victoria Peterson and the rest of the so-called "Friends of Crystal Mangum" who believe that their Three Stooges-like antics serve Crystal better than real legal representation.

If you were really her friends, you would quit focusing on how everyone in the DPD, the entire Duke LAX team, Duke University, Duke Medical Center, the media, the Medical Examiner's office, Rae Evans and the "carpetbagger jihad" are the root of Crystal's problems, and instead focus on getting her adequate legal representation (which you have just FUBAR'd) and psychiatric help. Until that happens, I will continue to see this blog as just another example of Crystal Mangum's poor judgment in choosing friends leading to her exploitation by people who claim to be helping her.

As I have said before and will continue to say, with friends like the Friends of Crystal Mangum, who needs enemies?

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist) asked, why should he present his CV.

If he were to go to court to testify in Crystal's behalf, he would be required to establish himself as an expert. To do so he would have to present his credentials, documentation that he knows what he is talking about.

He suggests he has no credentials.

Crystal's friend Malek says SIDN(inn)EY is an experienced physician. So was Josef Mengele

Anonymous said...

Agree 100% Mark. 100%

To the 8:15, Harr could be called by the prosecution...which would be interesting, don't you think...:) I would buy a ticket to see Harr on the stand.
Prosecutor: Sir, where did you get XXXXXX?
Harr: from my sources?
Prosecutor: Who are your sources?
Harr: Duh, the tooth fairy and scooby-do.
Prosecutor: Oh, golly, gee whiz, you must be realllllly smart!
But, hey, if you don't give up the names of your "sources", you might be in contempt ........

Anonymous said...

I love the comment about Hitler. Harr's silliness and Kenny's insistence on Sister's virginal reputation are strangely akin to the people, today, who deny that the Holocaust ever occured. Six million dead jewish people and Farrakan says Oh, No, it's a myth.
don't you just love this kind of wingnut?
Mangum has her photo, in her underwear spread legged over a chair, on an escort service web site, has multiple male deposits in her before the lax party, plays with sex toys for paying customers in motels, has a paid driver....and she is not a prostitute. Oh, brother.....

Anonymous said...

At the hearing for Shella's request to quit the case, Mangum said she didn't see any reason why Shella couldn't continue to represent her and that she did not want him to quit. Not only that statement, she also said it was not her fault that her "supporters" published the documents. Amazing, isn't it. This information comes directly from what she stated in court.
Not heresay, as Harr would now try to weasel on.
Shella was smart man to quit. She's as much of a loon as Harr and Peterson...

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY calls it malpractice that the police did not talk to Crystal when she was arrested for stabbing Reginald Daye.

Interesting.

It took Mike NI(ncompoop)FOMG about 9 months before he had anyone in his office interview Crystal with regard to the rape she alleged. He never called that legal ma;practice on the part of Mr. NI(ncompoop)FONG.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
No Harr, Not correct at all. You are drawing false conclusions from records that simply do not support your version of events. There is not one word in the record, which supports your false idea that the endo tube was misplaced
I also agree with Walt. Proximate cause clearly and definitively points to Mangum.....whether it's first or second degree, or even manslaughter....is the question. YOU can preach all you want. Lucky for Mangum, she might, someday, go to trial...if you stay the hell out of her life.

The fact that the confirmatory EtCO2 test was negative is the first clue that the tube was not properly placed. That is noted in the medical records.

As far as going to trial... why? The prosecution doesn't even have a case for either of the charges.

Mark Orgel said...

1.) Ms. Mangum learned of Daye's abusive ways and drinking habits after she moved in with him.

Most people would have moved out at this point.

2.) Documentation of Crystal's injuries are on an EMS report that is posted.

The injuries documented, as I stated, are far less than would be expected after being punched in the face, gouged in the face and strangled over an hour-long altercation. It even states that her neck is normal, and that "patient denies neck...injury". Let me run that by you again, Sidney. CGM claims that Reginald Daye is on top of her, strangling her, and she is so afraid she is going to die that she grabs a knife, inflicting a serious stab wound to Daye's chest. A few short hours later she forgets to mention this to EMS??? Here is the smoking gun that proves that CGM's story is totally bogus, and you have been played. Don't feel bad, Sid, CGM has played many, many people before you.

3.) Neighbor's may not have heard the door being kicked in, but police reports document it was.

As far as I can tell, CGM was not taken into custody for several hours after she stabbed Daye. She could have easily created the appearance of a struggle, kicked the bathroom door in, spread some knives around, because she knew she was in serious trouble.

4.) The bedroom was near the rear of the apartment, and when he momentarily left her alone, she had no idea what he was doing. Regarding his intoxication, being an alcoholic, he had a high tolerance and could function normally at a blood alcohol level that would leave a non-alcoholic adult in a stupor.

I don't care how much you drink...if your BA is almost .3, you are going to be easy to evade. Wasn't there a window? All I know is that if I was in the bedroom with someone I thought was going to kill or seriously injure me, and he left the room, I would be looking for a way out of there.

Mark Orgel said...

5.) As the operative report states, the left lung, diaphragm, stomach, and left kidney were not damaged by the stab wound.

Don't you remember your gross anatomy, Sidney? If the knife entered the chest in the seventh intercostal space (I'm going from memory here, but I think that's right), and lacerated his colon, then it would have to have traversed the thoracic cavity, piercing the lung, and gone through the diaphragm in order to hit the colon. What you propose is anatomically impossible. What is possible is that the injuries were overlooked at the time of his laparotomy.

6.) It was malpractice for police not to interview her... then lie and state that she refused to talk about what had happened. Doesn't make sense. Why would she refuse to give authorities her side of the story?

It would indeed be malpractice if the DPD did not take a statement from CGM, however it is documented that CGM was offered a chance to make a statement and refused. I guess the one thing she learned from the Duke hoax was not to talk before getting her story straight. I can anticipate your response...the DPD lied and falsified their report...but Sidney, I'm way more inclined to believe a DPD report than CGM any day.

7.) Clumps of hair suggests they were pulled from Crystal's scalp and not clippings from a hair-cut.

Until we know whose hair it is, and whether it was cut or pulled out by the roots, the hair is meaningless. For all we know, they are Daye's hairs, or hair that Crystal cut or pulled out herself. If I had just stabbed somebody and didn't know if he was going to live or die, I believe I could pull out my own hair.

8.) Fact is that Crystal tried to lock herself in the bathroom to keep Daye away from her. He merely kicked in the door.

No, it's not a fact, it's what you were told by an accomplished liar. You seem to believe that anything that comes out of CGM's mouth is "a fact", when her history suggests that is not the case. She will say whatever she thinks will keep her out of trouble at any given moment. Now, that is a fact.

Face it, Mark, Crystal's story makes sense and fits with the evidence. How else do you explain the bathroom door being kicked in, the clumps of hair on the floor, Crystal's physical injuries, knives scattered around?

No, CGM's story does not make sense, and does not even fit with the cherry-picked evidence that you have posted here.

I'd like to hear your theory.

OK. Here it is. They are drunk, they argue, CGM stabs Daye. Realizing that with her record she is going to go away for a long time, she throws some knives around the apartment, kicks in the bathroom door, and plants the hair. Maybe she cut it off, or pulled it out of the drain. For all I know, they could be extensions. She forgets that she told EMS she had no neck injury when she states that Daye strangled her. She lamely says "he beat me" to whoever is listening, and coaches her son to say the same thing to the DPD. Daye dies. CGM winds up in prison charged with murder. She wonders what she can say and who she can say it to to drum up some sympathy.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Harr would have the public believe that a woman with nine prior convictions, a well documented history of lying, multiple convictions involving violence toward others, and a history of alcohol-related offenses (back to 2002) is....per him.....the helpless victim of a violent attack by a man with NO HISTORY of proven violence toward women. Amazing how such bull sXXX spews out of his mouth.

Many of Crystal's so-called prior convictions were on trumped up charges. Crystal has no history of violence towards others, and in 2010 and 2011 she was the victim of domestic violence. Also, Reginald Daye does have a criminal history that includes assault of a female... not to mention, the brass knuckles found at his apartment belonged to him... not Crystal.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
well said, 12:05.
As to Mangum's fabrication and Harr's ridiculous intrusion into her defense process, I can only say I hope she enjoys prison. The charge of first degree murder may not stick. She may wind up with a lesser charge, for sure. But, based on the EVIDENCE, not the silly fable we have here, it sure looks like she is going to do some time for killing Reginald Daye.

Anonymous, wake up! She's already done one year of an indefinite sentence without even being convicted of anything. That's the North Carolina justice system in action. The same thing that happened to James Arthur Johnson... and don't forget Carletta Alston who spent a year in jail before Prosecutor Tom Ford just up and dropped the murder charge against her.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H(ypoceite)ARR(acist:

"I'll just comment on the tube placement. First, the naso-gastric tube was properly introduce through the nose into the stomach. Once the contrast agent was administered through the tube, Daye vomited. Then, to protect the airway and give oxygen the decision was made to intubate Daye (with an endotracheal tube). This is when the mistake was made as the endotracheal tube was not placed in the airway. Lack of oxygen led to brain death and cardiac arrest. Once CPR was started, the mis-positioned endotracheal tube was removed, and another one introduced which was properly placed and allowed for oxygenated blood to revive the heart, but not the brain cells."

You omit the fact that none of this would have transpired had Crystal not stabbed Reginald Daye.

The legal doctrine is, if you injure someone and that individual dies as a complication of the medical treatment necessitated by the emergency, you are not off the hook for responsibility for the death.

Just ask your friend, Professor Coleman

First of all, Daye was electively removed from life support and died as a result of that! Keep that in mind. Secondly the circumstances which dictated the placement of the endotracheal tube had nothing to do with the emergency surgery which was successful. Thirdly, the endotracheal tube was wrongly placed and was the specific cause of the cardiac arrest and brain death. Fourthly, problems stemming from his alcohol withdrawal more likely than not made the intubation necessary.

Trying to say that Daye would not have been subjected to medical malpractice if he had not been stabbed makes about as much sense as saying Daye would not have been stabbed if he would not have been born.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr and Dr. kenhyderal,

I attended high school with Crystal Mangum, and I know I speak for many of our classmates when I say how proud I am of Crystal, a Navy veteran and NCCU honors graduate. Please continue your efforts not to let others tear her down with their malicious lies.

Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996

Hey, Malek. Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. I will pass your support on to Crystal. She has been the unfortunate victim of a vendetta prosecution by the state, and I believe that the truth will set her free and set the record straight. Thanks again.

guiowen said...

"Anonymous, wake up! She's already done one year of an indefinite sentence without even being convicted of anything."

So, Sidney, why don't you and your friends find the money for bail? Why don't you, and Peterson, and Kenhyderal, and maybe Malek Williams and those classmates of his who are so proud of CGM, do something productive and get her out of jail, rather than dreaming up strange stories?

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Many of Crystal's so-called prior convictions were on trumped up charges."

The only trumped upcharges in Crystal's history were the false rape charges made against the innocent Lacrosse players>

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist:

"[Crystal] has been the unfortunate victim of a vendetta prosecution by the state, and I believe that the truth will set her free and set the record straight."

Crystal has been the victim of herself and of the callous racists who exploit her to push their agendas(SIDN(inn)EY's agenda is to conduct a vendetta against three innocent men who were not wrongfully convicted of raping a black woman).

The truth has come out, and Crystal could have gotten help. Instead she prefers to play victim.

Anonymous said...

Harr and gay hater peterson will only whine because they do NOT care one whit anout mangum.. This is only them seeking attention for themselves.....pathetic little people
Mangumwas convicted of numerous charges related to violence against her boyfriend in 2010. In 2002 she was convicted of violence charges as well. Try again harr......you are embarrassing yourself.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn(EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Trying to say that Daye would not have been subjected to medical malpractice if he had not been stabbed makes about as much sense as saying Daye would not have been stabbed if he would not have been born."

Why are you so reluctant to confer with your friend, Professor Coleman, about that. It is because you do not want to hear the truth.

That you would say such a thing indicates you are not a competent physician.

Crystal stabbed Reginald Daye. Reginald Daye would never have needed medical treatment had he not been stabbed. The person who caused him to need medical treatment is responsible for his death.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Trying to say that Daye would not have been subjected to medical malpractice if he had not been stabbed makes about as much sense as saying Daye would not have been stabbed if he would not have been born."

That statement in and of itself shows you are not capable of making sense of anything.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Anonymous, wake up! She's already done one year of an indefinite sentence without even being convicted of anything. That's the North Carolina justice system in action."

SIDN(inn)EY), why do you refuse to notice Frankie Washington and Leon Brown, who were kept incarcerated for prolonged periods on trumped up charges by Black former DA Tracey Cline?

If you do not know about these men, it is because you choose to ignore them.

Mark Orgel said...

Sidney, maybe you need to go back to school. A negative EtCO2 can mean that the endotracheal tube was misplaced, but it can also mean there is no cardiac output, and is not de-facto evidence of an improperly placed ET tube. The record states that Daye appears to be in "PEA arrest", which means that he has no cardiac output despite having a normal EKG tracing. Under these circumstances, the EtCO2 would be expected to be absent. Breath sounds were heard in both lungs, there was fog in the tube, and direct visualization of the tube verified its correct placement.

Your theory about a misplaced ETT does not hold water, Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Mark, exactly. Thank you. Further if daye had been a hard core alcoholic there would have been liver damage in a man his age. No doubt both had been drinking and consumed consoderable alcohol.......but harr's false assertions about alcoholism and, related, woman abuse are not correct.
In looking at daye's record previously, therecwas NO conviction for any kind of violence. The person with the record of violence is mangum

Harr has repeatedly described the hair he talks about as brown. Mangum has black hair..
Daye had defensive wounds, she had zip except a chapped lip and one minor facial mark that required no treatment
If mangum stabbed him in self defense, she would be running to tell her story to the police. She didn't.
This is all a silly lie.

Mark Orgel said...

For weeks Sidney has been stating as fact that Reginald Daye's death was the result of a misplaced breathing tube by physicians at Duke Medical Center. He is wrong. His smoking gun has shot him in the foot. Let me explain.

Among the records (illegally) posted here is the record of Daye's respiratory arrest. Harr has stated that the fact that the ETCO2 measurement was absent is absolute evidence that the first breathing tube was misplaced. My own knowledge and a little research have shown that Harr is wrong.

A breathing tube needs to be properly placed in the windpipe in order to be effective. If the tube is accidentally placed in the esophagus (food tube), then oxygen cannot get to the lungs. This is what Harr says happened without a doubt.

There are several ways to verify that the tube is properly placed. A chest X-ray is considered the gold standard, but is not practical in the setting of a resuscitation, as it takes too long to get the results. Watching the chest rise and fall as oxygen is forced into the lungs by a bag, looking for fog on the inside of the tube during exhalation, and listening to the chest for the passage of air into the lungs during bagging are good but not perfect indicators of proper tube placement. All these observations were documented during Daye's resuscitation, and were consistent with proper placement of the tube.

ETCO2 is a measurement of carbon dioxide gas in the breathing tube. A properly placed tube should carry oxygen to the lungs and carbon dioxide away. Therefore a properly placed tube should show a measurable ETCO2, and this lack is what Harr calls irrefutable evidence of a misplaced tube. He is mistaken.

The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide only happens when blood is flowing through the lungs. Therefore, if there is no blood flow, the ETCO2 will be negative even in a properly placed tube. This can occur with asystole, when the heart is electrically silent (i. e. "flatline"), or when the heart's electrical activity is present, but there is no cardiac output, a condition called PEA. Daye was in PEA. His EKG tracing was normal, but his heart wasn't moving any blood. This is documented in the medical records, where it states that he was in a "PEA arrest". Among the conditions that can cause PEA are lack of oxygen, a blood clot to the lungs, dehydration, an abnormal potassium level in the blood, a high level of acid in the blood, or acute blood loss.

This is the situation that confronted Daye's doctors. They looked into Daye's throat utilizing a device called a laryngoscope, which allows direct visualization of the windpipe, and verified that the tube was properly placed. They then started CPR and placed a new tube, with subsequent confirmation of positive ETCO2.

It was the chest compressions of CPR which caused the ETCO2 to appear, not the change in breathing tubes. Daye's PEA arrest caused his brain damage, not a misplaced breathing tube, and that arrest was a complication of his treatment for the stab wound that CGM inflicted.

Sidney owes some people a huge apology, but I am guessing that none will be forthcoming. Bit by bit, Harr's theories about what happened in this case are not holding up to scrutiny.

kenhyderal said...

Dr, Harr's has given one possible explanation for Mr. Daye's cerebral anoxia and Mark has presented another. Deposing those who treated Daye and those who attended the treatments would need to be done to get a definitive answer. The point may be moot though because, as Walt has pointed out, according to law even subsequent medical malpractice causing death would not negate the homicide charge. Crystal is not guilty of first degree murder because she was acting in self defence.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"It is refreshing to get a comment from an individual with an objective mind. As you study the proseuction's discovery, it will become more apparent that Ms. Mangum was the victim of Mr. Daye and the victim of the Durham District Attorney's office."

Further study of the prosecution documents makes it more apparent that Crystal was not acting in self defense.

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Crystal is not guilty of first degree murder because she was acting in self defence."

Just as there was no evidence that Crystal was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006, there is no evidence Crystal was acting in self defense in the confrontation with Reginald Daye.

Harr Supporter said...

Sidney: Daye was electively removed from life support and died as a result of that! Keep that in mind.

The family's decision to take Daye off life support is irrelevant to any legal analysis of the charges against Mangum.

Walt has given you legal precedent. A murder conviction is not uncommon after the victim's family has elected to remove life support. The family of a victim is not required to keep their loved one on life support or to obtain the consent of the person charged before electively removing it. The requirement you suggest would defy common sense and basic human decency. You know this, but you ignore it.

Your constant repetition of an obviously irrelevant and discredited argument leads your readers to conclude either that you are dishonest (and trying to mislead them) or incredibly stupid (and fail to understand simple concepts). In either case, you lose credibility and people do not take you seriously.

Let me say it again: when you repeat mistakes, your readers conclude either that you are dishonest or incredibly stupid and do not take you seriously.

Keep that in mind.

I suggest that you explain to your readers why you have persisted in this idiocy. You should then apologize either for your dishonesty or for your stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Harr Supporter:

"I suggest that you explain to your readers why you have persisted in this idiocy. You should then apologize either for your dishonesty or for your stupidity."

I believe that SIDN(inn)EY has made the remark that any 2nd or 3rd year Medical Student would see the autopsy was bogus.

I say again, Sidney may be indicating the true level of his medical education.

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Dr, Harr's has given one possible explanation for Mr. Daye's cerebral anoxia and Mark has presented another. Deposing those who treated Daye and those who attended the treatments would need to be done to get a definitive answer."

In case you haven't noticed, KEN(inny), your idol SIDN(inn)EY is telling us he has given the definitive answer.

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal said...
"Dr, Harr's has given one possible explanation for Mr. Daye's cerebral anoxia and Mark has presented another. Deposing those who treated Daye and those who attended the treatments would need to be done to get a definitive answer. The point may be moot though because, as Walt has pointed out, according to law even subsequent medical malpractice causing death would not negate the homicide charge. Crystal is not guilty of first degree murder because she was acting in self defence."

Thank you for sharing your keen medical insight with us, Dr. kenhyderal (or should I say Dr. Clark?)

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @4:49 said: "there is no evidence Crystal was acting in self defense in the confrontation with Reginald Daye"...... This is not true eg. her ripped out hair, the kicked in bathroom door. What there is no evidence for, though, is that Crystal was an aggressor who set out to murder Mr. Daye.

Anonymous said...

Ken. You are either an idiot or cannot read. There is no evidence concerning daye pulling our mangum hair. In fact, not even established that the hair was hers, that it was pulled out, when it was pulled out, and who pulled it.....IF IFIF. What a crock. She could have kicked the door in, wing nut. She has convictions for destructing property....see the 2010 damage to a car. The door could have been trashed anytime.
How is the book sale going......or should we say mr edward? Same message to you, pal......if you think she is innocent, bail her out and get her an attorney you think is worthy......put up or shut up, as the poster says

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Dr, Harr's has given one possible explanation for Mr. Daye's cerebral anoxia..."

Read Mark Orgel's post a little more attentively. SIDN(inn)EY's explanation is totally implausible, just like your hypothesis as to what happened on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"This is not true eg. her ripped out hair, the kicked in bathroom door."

As a previous poster noted, that has not been established as fact.

As to evidence that Crystal was the aggressor, we have the statements of Reginald Daye and his nephew that Crystal stabbed Mr. Daye, and we have the evidence of the stab wound which killed Mr. Daye.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):
KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

All the evidence we have heard from SIDN(inn)EY is evidence which might be favorable to the defense. We have heard nothing really of the prosecution's case. It is obvious that SIDN(inn)EY is spinning the case in a way to create sympathy for the defendant.

Does that wound familiar?

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, here we go again....with the poor victim crap. Poor innocent Crystal....the victim of an apparent vendetta that PRE DATED 2006! Her 2002 troubles were not her fault, either, god bless her pure heart.
Hilarious!

Anonymous said...

Daye died because Mangum stabbed him. Period.
The defense attorney, if one can be found to take the case, will have to create enough doubt in the minds' of the jurors as to circumstances....self defense or no. Another poster hits a key point.....all we have on this silly blob is Harr and Mangum doing the usual poor victim dance. I look forward to the trial and the prosecution's case.

Anonymous said...

Remembering Eve Carson today......and the scum who murdered her. Rest in peace, Eve.

Nifong Supporter said...


Mark Orgel said...
For weeks Sidney has been stating as fact that Reginald Daye's death was the result of a misplaced breathing tube by physicians at Duke Medical Center. He is wrong. His smoking gun has shot him in the foot. Let me explain.

Among the records (illegally) posted here is the record of Daye's respiratory arrest. Harr has stated that the fact that the ETCO2 measurement was absent is absolute evidence that the first breathing tube was misplaced. My own knowledge and a little research have shown that Harr is wrong.

The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide only happens when blood is flowing through the lungs. Therefore, if there is no blood flow, the ETCO2 will be negative even in a properly placed tube. This can occur with asystole, when the heart is electrically silent (i. e. "flatline"), or when the heart's electrical activity is present, but there is no cardiac output, a condition called PEA. Daye was in PEA. His EKG tracing was normal, but his heart wasn't moving any blood. This is documented in the medical records, where it states that he was in a "PEA arrest". Among the conditions that can cause PEA are lack of oxygen, a blood clot to the lungs, dehydration, an abnormal potassium level in the blood, a high level of acid in the blood, or acute blood loss.

This is the situation that confronted Daye's doctors. They looked into Daye's throat utilizing a device called a laryngoscope, which allows direct visualization of the windpipe, and verified that the tube was properly placed. They then started CPR and placed a new tube, with subsequent confirmation of positive ETCO2.

It was the chest compressions of CPR which caused the ETCO2 to appear, not the change in breathing tubes. Daye's PEA arrest caused his brain damage, not a misplaced breathing tube, and that arrest was a complication of his treatment for the stab wound that CGM inflicted.

Sidney owes some people a huge apology, but I am guessing that none will be forthcoming. Bit by bit, Harr's theories about what happened in this case are not holding up to scrutiny.

Hey, Mark.

I am in agreement with most everything you said with the exception that after the 8.0mm endotracheal tube was placed, the EtCO2 was negative... this being prior to the cardiac arrest when blood was still flowing. The negative result prompted the visual check with the laryngoscope... and the visual determination was erroneously that it was properly placed. It wasn't and that's what led to the cardiac arrest. Now if the tube had been properly placed they should not have removed it. However, when they did remove it and replace it with a 7.5mm endotracheal tube, the EtCO2 was positive and the heart was successfully resuscitated.

Thank you for your excellent explanation about endotracheal tube placement... but as you can see, it only goes to support my theory - the only logical one.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Via your last reply to Mark Orgel you explain why you will not publish your CV.

That answer indicates you are not a competent physician. You do not want to advertise that.

Your allegation of a mis placed ET tube is fabricantion, nothing more.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sidney? said...

Terror?

Sheer terror.

Is there any other kind?


It will be interesting to see how this is presented in court.

Crystal, aka the Louvre of DNA, will have to take the stand. Can't wait for the crocodile tears.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @ 3:29 AM said "How is the book sale going......or should we say mr edward?" ........... Give me a break. Unlike most of the cowardly anonymous posters here, I post under my own name, Ken Edwards (a.k.a. kenhyderal). Dr. Harr and of course Crystal Mangum can confirm that I am not Vincent Clark.

Anonymous said...

We all know who you are, pal....we just enjoy reading your high-behind replies. you go, cut-n-paste, you're a riot!! LOLOL.

Anonymous said...

Nope, Harr, you got it wrong yet again and you do not have the strength of character and the cajones to admit you are wrong.... figures.
Shown by hard evidence to be exactly what you are.....a fraud.

Anonymous said...

So, Harr, are you all happy for your courageous friend, peterson, and her klan of christian right-wingers who passed Amendment One yesterday? feel all proud to have her photo on your site? Must make you feel all warm and fuzzy to know that peterson celebrated the victory of bigotry!

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Unlike most of the cowardly anonymous posters here, I post under my own name, Ken Edwards (a.k.a. kenhyderal). Dr. Harr and of course Crystal Mangum can confirm that I am not Vincent Clark."

Unfortunately, what you post is implausible, meaningless garbage.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @8:28 said " your high-behind replies" Huh?? Please explain. I'm not familiar with the term "high-behind"

Anonymous said...

look it up under "overblown righteous arrogance that leads to showing one's posterior".....

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @8:52 said: "So, Harr, are you all happy for your courageous friend, peterson, and her klan of christian right-wingers who passed Amendment One yesterday? feel all proud to have her photo on your site? Must make you feel all warm and fuzzy to know that peterson celebrated the victory of bigotry!"........... Once again "Anonymous Poster" and champion of Civil Rights for all people, I suggest you foresake that unjust jurisdiction and come to Canada.................. Cut and Pasted again from Wikipedia: "On July 20, 2005, Canada became the fourth country in the world and the first country in the Americas to legalize same-sex marriage nationwide with the enactment of the Civil Marriage Act which provided a gender-neutral marriage definition. Court decisions, starting in 2003, each already legalized same-sex marriage in eight out of ten provinces and one of three territories, whose residents comprised about 90% of Canada's population. Before passage of the Act, more than 3,000 same-sex couples had already married in those areas.[1] Most legal benefits commonly associated with marriage had been extended to cohabiting same-sex couples since 1999" By the way, unlike North Carolina, in Canada we do have the right to a speedy trial. There is no way, in Canada, that Crystal would not have had her day in Court where a jury of her peers would have found reasonable doubt that she acted in self defence and acquitted her.

Anonymous said...

When hell freezes over, cowboy. I love my country and i will never leave her. I suggest you and half wit harr and the bigot peterson bail out sister and haul up to canada. They will love her up there.
Oh by the way, pole vaulting isn't quite as freely tolerated in canada so sister is gonna have to tone down the act a bit

Anonymous said...

Daye is dead but somehow Mangum is the victim.You black people are hilarious except when you're committing violent crimes which is much too often.

kenhyderal said...

Daye was the author of his own misfortune. Crystal is a victim of the broken North Carolina Justice System.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @2:52 said: " I love my country and i will never leave her"........ But it sure needs fixing.

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @ 3:15 said: "You black people are hilarious except when you're committing violent crimes which is much too often"...... And you sir/madam are a racist, judging from this prejudicial statement you have made.

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Daye was the author of his own misfortune. Crystal is a victim of the broken North Carolina Justice System."

The North Carolina justice system broke down years ago when it failed to throw the book at Crystal for her well documented escapade with the stolen taxi cab.

Had that happened, there would not have had the opportunity to accuse innocent men of raping her. She would not have assaulted her boyfriend. Reginald Daye would have been alive.

It is you Crystal facilitators, those who buy into the farce that she is a victim, who bear some responsibility for Mr. Daye's death, for all the misery she has caused.

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocriteDER(acist)AL:

"Anonymous @ 3:15 said: 'You black people are hilarious except when you're committing violent crimes which is much too often'...... And you sir/madam are a racist, judging from this prejudicial statement you have made."

It is documented history that those black racists, who tried to exploit Crystal's false charges of rape against three innocent Caucasians, totally ignored Black rapist Michael Jermaine Burch.

The Lacrosse hoax is still the source of a lot of hostility mainly because racist Black people, like SIDN(inn)EY are angry because the Caucasians were not wrongfully convicted.

KEN(inny), like it or not, you and SIDN(inn)EY are virulent racists.

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Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sidney? said...

Sidney: "and was not even charged with taking Daye’s money. She was charged for taking two cashier’s checks... that she could not even convert for her own personal use"

While the "could not even convert for her own personal use" is questionable, you miss the point here, Sidney.

Depriving someone of the use of their assets is stealing, regardless of whether or not the thief can use it themselves.

kenhyderal said...

@ Anonymous 6:41, 6:43, 6:44, 6:51,6:51 and 6:53: And the purpose, of your childish chanting,is?

kenhyderal said...

Anonymous @ 8:46 said: "you miss the point here, Sidney"...... Good luck on trying to convince a jury that Crystal murdered Daye in the commission of a robbery of the money orders.

guiowen said...

Kenhyderal,
That's precisely what the trial will be for.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sidney? said...

Kenhyderal: "Good luck on trying to convince a jury..."

You miss the point as well, Ken.

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KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"Good luck on trying to convince a jury that Crystal murdered Daye in the commission of a robbery of the money orders."

Why is your idol SIDN(inn)EY so reluctant to have Crystal go before a jury? SIDN(inn)EY is insisting the charges be dismissed and Crystal released without a trial.

SIDN(inn)EY thought that it was inappropriate to dismiss the charges against the innocent falsely accused Lacrosse players instead of having them go to trial. There is more probable cause to believe Crystal committed a crime than there was to believe the Lacrosse players did.

Anonymous said...

Your soulmate harr screwed up mangum' s representation by a very fine attorney. You want to whine about speedy trial? Blame harr for causing more delay. You want to comment about how our country needs fixing? You? We are not a perfect country, god knows. I guess iceland is, huh. You can have canada, pal......and take mangum with you. They will love her act.

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SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

When you demand that charges against Crystal be dropped and she be released, you are doing something similar to what you accused the attorneys for the innocent Lacrosse players of doing.

You claim they pressured AG Cooper to declare their clients innocent.

You are pressuring the Judicial system to declare Crystal innocent, even though there is probable cause to believe she committed a crime.

There was no probable cause to believe any of the Lacrosse defendants ever committed a crime. There was no evidence of a crime.

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SIDN(inn)EY H9ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Why are you reluctant to have Crystal not go before a jury. Why are you not demanding a speedy trial?

If you really believed the charges against her are baseless, why wouldn't you want the opportunity to prove it in court?

Anonymous said...

Put up or shut up, harr. Pay her bail and hire wendy murphy to represent mangum

guiowen said...

We had this exact same discussion about bail in May of 2010. Sidney at the time said he would not dignify bail by paying it as this would (I imagine) somehow be an admission of CGM's guilt.
At that same time Kenhyderal and I had a long debate (which he initiated) as to whether Canada was a freer country than the United States. Eventually he gave up on the debate.
Clearly, nothing has changed in two years -- except CGM is now charged with murder rather than arson.

Anonymous said...

Right. Exactly. Harr is all whine. He has screwed mangum just to draw attention to himself and she is dumb enough to continue to make stupid decisions. Harr will never do anything but bitch about evil white people who seem to be responsible for everything from hangnails to mangum' pole burn

Anonymous said...

Hey Shidney -- I tried to lishten to your "flogblog". I couldn't get pasht your voish.

Try shwallowing shome of that shpit (?) in your mouth nexsht time.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure that in the upside down world of Durham no jury will ever convict drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum of a murder she obviously committed.However justice still might be done.Maybe her next black boyfriend (no white man would touch her) will stab Crystal to death instead.It would save the taxpayers,in other words whites,a lot of money.

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Anonymous said...

I'm sure that in the upside down world of Durham no jury will ever convict drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum of a murder she obviously committed.However justice still might be done.Maybe her next black boyfriend (no white man would touch her) will stab Crystal to death instead.It would save the taxpayers,in other words whites,a lot of money.

May 10, 2012 7:18 PM

Not that I want to side with SIDN(inn)EY or with KEN(inny) but you are advocating vigilante justice and that is the kind of justice which SIDN(inn)EY, VIC(ious)TORIA, the BPs, the gang of 88 and the pot bangers advocated for the innocent Lacrosse players.

Anonymous said...

In my last comment I meant NBPs, the New Black Panthers.

Nifong Supporter said...


kenhyderal said...
Anonymous @ 3:29 AM said "How is the book sale going......or should we say mr edward?" ........... Give me a break. Unlike most of the cowardly anonymous posters here, I post under my own name, Ken Edwards (a.k.a. kenhyderal). Dr. Harr and of course Crystal Mangum can confirm that I am not Vincent Clark.

I confirm the above. kenhyderal is not Vincent Clark.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
So, Harr, are you all happy for your courageous friend, peterson, and her klan of christian right-wingers who passed Amendment One yesterday? feel all proud to have her photo on your site? Must make you feel all warm and fuzzy to know that peterson celebrated the victory of bigotry!

Personally I voted against Amendment One. I am against discrimination against just about anything. Everyone should be treated equally in my opinion. How others voted on the issue is their business and based on their conscience.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"This is not true eg. her ripped out hair, the kicked in bathroom door."

As a previous poster noted, that has not been established as fact.

As to evidence that Crystal was the aggressor, we have the statements of Reginald Daye and his nephew that Crystal stabbed Mr. Daye, and we have the evidence of the stab wound which killed Mr. Daye.

First, there is no evidence that Crystal was the aggressor. Daye's nephew certainly was not a witness to the stabbing.

What the prosecution and media has failed to come up with is a motive for Crystal to stab Daye. The motive is right before their tightly closed eyes... self-defense!

Also, the stab wound did not cause the brain death of Daye... a misplaced endotracheal tube did.

Nifong Supporter said...


Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sidney? said...
Sidney: "and was not even charged with taking Daye’s money. She was charged for taking two cashier’s checks... that she could not even convert for her own personal use"

While the "could not even convert for her own personal use" is questionable, you miss the point here, Sidney.

Depriving someone of the use of their assets is stealing, regardless of whether or not the thief can use it themselves.

Hey, Whatchoo.

The fact of the matter is that Daye gave the two cashier's checks to Crystal Mangum, so how can she be charged with stealing them? Makes no sense!

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Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H9ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Why are you reluctant to have Crystal not go before a jury. Why are you not demanding a speedy trial?

If you really believed the charges against her are baseless, why wouldn't you want the opportunity to prove it in court?

The charges are baseless lacking credible evidence. The prosecutor should be ashamed for bringing up such ridiculous charges.

Nifong Supporter said...


Attention!! I am going to begin work on a flog that will explain in depth everything that you wanted to know about the Mangum/Daye incident but that the media was afraid to print and broadcast. Hopefully it will be posted within a week's time... by next Friday... May 18th.


Until then, may ye thereby go enlightened.

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SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Everyone should be treated equally in my opinion."

No you don't. You believe that the innocent Lacrosse players should have been tried, even though there is less a case against them than there is against Crystal Mangum.

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SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Attention!! I am going to begin work on a flog that will explain in depth everything that you wanted to know about the Mangum/Daye incident but that the media was afraid to print and broadcast. Hopefully it will be posted within a week's time... by next Friday... May 18th."

You have been promising to do that on various occasions and on each occasion you have provided no facts, just unsupported allegations.

Why should we expect your next blog to be anything different?

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The charges [against Crystal Mangum] are baseless lacking credible evidence. The prosecutor should be ashamed for bringing up such ridiculous charges."

There is more substance to the charges filed against Crystal Mangum than to the charges filed by Mike NI(ncommpoop)FONG against the innocent Lacrosse players.You commend Mr. Nifong for his wrongful prosecution. Why? Was it because the wrongfully accused were Caucasians.

SIDN(inn)EY, your get whitey attitude is on display.

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SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"I confirm the above. kenhyderal is not Vincent Clark."

Whatever.

KEN(inny) is still a rather superficial and racist thinker, basing his opinions, the same as you do, that Whitey must be punished.

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SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"What the prosecution and media has failed to come up with is a motive for Crystal to stab Daye. The motive is right before their tightly closed eyes... self-defense!"

Yes they have. Crystal stabbed Reginald Daye because she wanted his money.

Because you put blinders on because you do not want to confront it, that does not mean the prosecution did not establish motive.

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SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Also, the stab wound did not cause the brain death of Daye... a misplaced endotracheal tube did."

As Mark Orgel has pointed out, the ET tube was not misplaced.

Whether you accept it or n not, that Mr. Daye suffered complications of Medical Treatment which was necessitated by the stab wound does not absolve the inflictor of the stab wound of responsibility for the death. I will not advise you to ask your friend Professor Coleman because you have demonstrated you have an aversion to learn the truth

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SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"First, there is no evidence that Crystal was the aggressor. Daye's nephew certainly was not a witness to the stabbing."

Yes there is. You are averse to confronting the truth which is why you deny it.

That you talked to Crystal means only you talked to someone who has a serious credibility problem.

Anonymous said...

news flash to sidney......we ALL know Kenny Hissy fit is not Clark......we just enjoy occasionally watching and reading his funny little shorts-in-a-knot reactions.....

who cares how you voted on amendment one. you have a bigot on your web site. you stood beside her two weeks ago and condoned the lies she told about Mr. Daye. You called her courageous. That, BRO, makes you just the same kind of bigoted racist homophobic hypocrite she is. shame on you.

Anonymous said...

Crystal has a new lawyer. Whopeedo.

guiowen said...

Meanwhile, I notice Vicky Peterson is threatening to go to the AG unless all charges are dropped. That sounds really smart, Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Like SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist), VIC(ious)TOR(acist) PETERSON is a seriously deluded megalomaniac. Let's see what happens when she goes to the AG. It will be something similar to what happened to SIDN(inn)EY when he filed his frivolous lawsuit against Duke>

Anonymous said...

Well, Victoria's secret is out......she is not only a bigot, she is also a third world dictator. Eva Peron, anybody? Drop the charges, you evil white people, or I will lop off your heads! Wow, this is better than any soap opera on TV. So, now Woody Vann is back on the case,.
I do hope peterson goes to the AG.......that, friends and neighbors, will be high drama . stay tuned.....it just gets funnier by the day.
meantime, let's continue to hope that, in spite of nitwit interference, Mangum gets her day in court soon.

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SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR:

Here is a hypothetical situation for you to consider.

You are working as an ER physician. A patient is brought in with a gunshot wound. You have to intubate him but you fail to get the tube in properly and he dies.

According to what you call logic, in that hypothetical scenario, you, not the shooter, are responsible for the man's death and should face criminal charges.

Anonymous said...

Here's an interesting hypothetical scenario.

Chris Shella sues Victoria Peterson for filing a frivolous malicious complaint against him with the NC Bar. The case gets heard by Judge Judy on national TV.

There have been a couple of instances in which Judge Judy has heard a case of a police officer suing a disgruntled citizen because that citizen filed a frivolous claim of misconduct over a traffic stop or something. Judge Judy flayed the defendants alive.

I am contemplating what Judge Judy would do to SIDN(inn)EY and to VIC(ious)TOE(acist)IA if they got on her show and tried to spew out all their garbage about NI(nc0mpoop)FONG and Crystal.

Anonymous said...

Anyone want to start a pool on how long Woody Vann lasts as Crystal's counsel?

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H9ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Your so called logic is that if an individual is assaulted, the assault necessitating medical treatment, if he dies of a medical complication, then the assailant is relieved of responsibility for the death.

Cite a legal precedent that justifies your so called logic. If you can not, why not ask your friend, Professor Coleman, if he can provide you with one.

Anonymous said...

kenhyderal said...
"@ Anonymous 6:41, 6:43, 6:44, 6:51,6:51 and 6:53: And the purpose, of your childish chanting,is?"


Admit it Kenny, you love the attention.

Anonymous said...

Let us hope VIC(ious)TOR(acist)IA take her complaint about Chris Shella to the Bar.

It would result in the NC State Bar scrutinizing SIDN(inn)EY's role in Chris Shella's withdrawl from the case, like accessing an publishing confidential information which he had no right to access or publish.

Come on, VIC(ious)TOR(acist)IA, go and do it.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR:

Here is a hypothetical situation for you to consider.

You are working as an ER physician. A patient is brought in with a gunshot wound. You have to intubate him but you fail to get the tube in properly and he dies.

According to what you call logic, in that hypothetical scenario, you, not the shooter, are responsible for the man's death and should face criminal charges.

Your hypothetical lacks important information. If the gunshot wound was nonlethal... for example to the ankle, that would make a difference than if the wound was to the chest. Secondly, if the man died as a direct result of anoxia secondary to a misplaced endotracheal tube, then the person who placed the tube needs to accept responsibility... but nowhere do I suggest that the hospital staff member have criminal charges brought against him/her. The wrongful placement of an endotracheal tube is not a common occurrence... is actually quite rare and is usually detected and corrected before irreversible brain damage occurs. In Reginald Daye's case, the stab wound definitely did not cause his death... the mis-positioned endotracheal tube did.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H9ypocrite)ARR(acist):

Your so called logic is that if an individual is assaulted, the assault necessitating medical treatment, if he dies of a medical complication, then the assailant is relieved of responsibility for the death.

Cite a legal precedent that justifies your so called logic. If you can not, why not ask your friend, Professor Coleman, if he can provide you with one.


In the case of Reginald Daye, he was stabbed in self defense. Also, his stab wound was successfully treated with emergency surgery. The misplacement of the endotracheal tube left in place for a long enough period of time would result in death regardless of what the patient was hospitalized for. It would be no different than if a patient accidentally received a bolus of insulin and died due to acute hypoglycemia. A medical mishap was directly responsible for death.

Keep in mind that the proximate cause of Daye's death was his removal from life support. There is the chance that had he remained on life support for a couple of months that he might have recovered... as did Joshua Wrenn and Timothy Helms, both considered to have irreversible brain damage and unable to recover from their comatose states.

Keep in mind also that Daye had a serious drinking problem and that his hospital course was complicated by alcoholic withdrawal and the attempts to stave off delirium tremens.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"What the prosecution and media has failed to come up with is a motive for Crystal to stab Daye. The motive is right before their tightly closed eyes... self-defense!"

Yes they have. Crystal stabbed Reginald Daye because she wanted his money.

Because you put blinders on because you do not want to confront it, that does not mean the prosecution did not establish motive.

I don't think the prosecution has ever presented a motive for Crystal Mangum stabbing Daye. She definitely did not stab him for his money. She wasn't even charged with stealing his money.

Your money motive doesn't even make sense. Why would Crystal steal two cashier's checks that she couldn't even convert for her use... when the checks were given to her by Daye, a man with whom she and her children were sharing his apartment and with whom she had a relationship? It just doesn't make sense. And why would he kick in the bathroom door? And why would clumps of her hair be found at the apartment? And why would her face show signs of being physically battered?

Give the above questions some serious thought, and maybe it will lead you to some enlightenment.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist:

"Your hypothetical lacks important information. If the gunshot wound was nonlethal... for example to the ankle, that would make a difference than if the wound was to the chest. Secondly, if the man died as a direct result of anoxia secondary to a misplaced endotracheal tube, then the person who placed the tube needs to accept responsibility... but nowhere do I suggest that the hospital staff member have criminal charges brought against him/her. The wrongful placement of an endotracheal tube is not a common occurrence... is actually quite rare and is usually detected and corrected before irreversible brain damage occurs. In Reginald Daye's case, the stab wound definitely did not cause his death... the mis-positioned endotracheal tube did."

Sidney, you are dodging the question, which is not surprising..

A mis placed endotracheal tube is not that rare. It has happened to the best of anesthesiologist.

Read Mark Orgel's posts. The endotracheal tube was not misplaced.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Your money motive doesn't even make sense. Why would Crystal steal two cashier's checks that she couldn't even convert for her use... when the checks were given to her by Daye, a man with whom she and her children were sharing his apartment and with whom she had a relationship? It just doesn't make sense. And why would he kick in the bathroom door? And why would clumps of her hair be found at the apartment? And why would her face show signs of being physically battered?"

SIDN(inn)EY, look at the mug shot taken of Crystal shortly after she was arrested for stabbing Mr. Daye. It does not show signs of being physically battered. This latest claim of yours is inconsistent with an earlier claim you made, that Crystal was beaten about the face but showed no signs of a battering.

Just because the money motive does not make sense to you is irrelevant. You have not made an allegation that makes sense in all the years you have been carrying on your vendetta against the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players.

You haven't enlightened anyone, especially yourself.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"It just doesn't make sense. And why would he kick in the bathroom door? And why would clumps of her hair be found at the apartment?"

Those allegations of yours, that Reginald Daye kicked in the bathroom door and tore out Crystal's hair, have not been established as fact.

Your calling them fact has no legal weight, no more weight than your claims that your frivolous lawsuit against Duke had merit, that you would prevail in court against Duke.

Anonymous said...

Sid,

I see that you filed your appeal on April 5. Could you post you filing so that we may review it?

It is not necessary for you to write a blog. The following will suffice:

"I filed my appeal of the dismissal of my lawsuit against Duke on April 5. The filing can be found at the following link. I will inform you of any developments."

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Keep in mind that the proximate cause of Daye's death was his removal from life support. There is the chance that had he remained on life support for a couple of months that he might have recovered."

If you believe Mr. Daye would have survived had he remained on life support for a couple months, you are indeed an incompetent physician. Most people who remain on life support for more than a couple of weeks do not survive. You would know that if you had any experience in critical care.

That Mr. Daye went on life support was a complication of his medical treatment, which never would have been necessary had Crystal not stabbed him.

Can you cite any legal precedent if the victim of an assault who dies as a result of the treatment of the assault, that absolves the assailant of responsibility for the death. This is an issue you are dodging.

Anonymous said...

SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Keep in mind also that Daye had a serious drinking problem and that his hospital course was complicated by alcoholic withdrawal and the attempts to stave off delirium tremens."

Even if that were true, it does not nullify the fact that if Mr. Daye had not been stabbed, he would not have required medical treatment. There is no evidence Crystal acted in self defense.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The misplacement of the endotracheal tube left in place for a long enough period of time would result in death regardless of what the patient was hospitalized for."

The medical record clearly documents that the endotracheal tube was not misplaced. What he was intubated for was a complication of the Medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound which he suffered. If you can not recognize, it is another indication you know nothing about medicine or surgery.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The charges [against Crystal Mangum] are baseless lacking credible evidence."

You have de facto admitted Mr. NI(ncompoop)FONG did wrongfully prosecute the innocent Lacrosse players, that he should have dismissed the charges.

By his own admission, Mr. NI(ncom[oop)FONG had no credible evidence that the Lacrosse players had committed the crimes of rape or sexual assault.

Anonymous said...

Harr can rant till his cows come home and nothing will change facts. Proximate cause in this case was the stab wound and nothing this airhead can say will make that FACT go away. The only significant issue for the trial is whether this is going to be first, second, manslaughter.....or, if she gets an OJ jury and has wendy murphyfor an attorney, self defense. Mangum could walk.....absolutely......and, when she does, the same criminal behavior that is documented throughout her history will repeat itself. Let's just hope that somebody does not have to lose his or her life the next time.
Woody Vann has a bellyful of her and Harr clowns in 2010.....wonder if old he is going to handle things differently this go around.

Anonymous said...

I think it was another attorney who quit mangum in 2010 because of the same kind of interference from harr et al. And the same stupid behavior by mangum.

Anonymous said...

Yep. Clayton jones. Quit because mangum was communicating with harr, against legal sdvice. Same deal. Mangum is incapable of learning from experience.

Anonymous said...

Dr nichols has stated he stands by the report filed with cause of death from the stab wound. Period. Per N&O bull's eye note. Lets see......a highly experienced physician who has done countless similar case procedures, or harr, who claims to be a retired ED physician and has no documented experience in this forensic field. Wow......it's a tough call. The whacko or the competent person?

Anonymous said...

How many readers of this silly blob think that mangum's behavior after the stabbing is typical of or consistent with a claim of self defense? I've worked around many patients who were injured during violence and who were involved in self defensive acts. Not ONE of these ever behaved like mangum. Not one. Her behavior is completely inconsistent with harr's claim.
Do the research folks and you will see plenty of data to show similarities in post incident behavior patterns for self defense "victims". Such as:
Strong initial and ongoing consistent oral account of events and causative factors that led to defensive act ,
Immediate and full cooperation with LEO .
Shame in the victim for commiting the defensive act even tho it was necessary to protect against life threatening actions by aggressor,
Little or no prior criminal record in the victim,
In domestic violence cases, docmented history of prior physical violence by the aggressor toward the victim.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @May 14, 2012 4:08 AM:

"harr...claims to be a retired ED physician and has no documented experience in this forensic field."

Judging from some allegations SIDN(inn)EY has made on this blog, it is questionable whether he has competence in any medical field, forensic or otherwise.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Sid,

I see that you filed your appeal on April 5. Could you post you filing so that we may review it?

It is not necessary for you to write a blog. The following will suffice:

"I filed my appeal of the dismissal of my lawsuit against Duke on April 5. The filing can be found at the following link. I will inform you of any developments."

Right now I do not have the time to post it as I am working on getting charges against Crystal dismissed. The flog about the April 3, 2011 incident is taking all of my time. When I have the time, I will post it.

Thanks for your interest in it.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Keep in mind that the proximate cause of Daye's death was his removal from life support. There is the chance that had he remained on life support for a couple of months that he might have recovered."

If you believe Mr. Daye would have survived had he remained on life support for a couple months, you are indeed an incompetent physician. Most people who remain on life support for more than a couple of weeks do not survive. You would know that if you had any experience in critical care.

That Mr. Daye went on life support was a complication of his medical treatment, which never would have been necessary had Crystal not stabbed him.

Can you cite any legal precedent if the victim of an assault who dies as a result of the treatment of the assault, that absolves the assailant of responsibility for the death. This is an issue you are dodging.

Joshua Wrenn and Timothy Helms, both of whom were considered to be brain dead and on life support, not only survived after a couple of months on life support, but regained consciousness. Reginald Daye was never afforded that opportunity as he was removed from life support after only one week in a comatose state.

The reason Daye went on life support was due to the misplacement of an endotracheal tube by Duke University Hospital staff which resulted in his brain death. Daye's stab wound had nothing to do with the misplacement of the endotracheal tube.

Finally, the overriding issue is that Crystal Mangum stabbed Daye in self-defense. People with enlightenment understand this concept.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN9inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Keep in mind also that Daye had a serious drinking problem and that his hospital course was complicated by alcoholic withdrawal and the attempts to stave off delirium tremens."

Even if that were true, it does not nullify the fact that if Mr. Daye had not been stabbed, he would not have required medical treatment. There is no evidence Crystal acted in self defense.

Your statement makes as much sense and has as much relevance as this: "If Mr. Daye would not have been born, he would not have been stabbed."

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The misplacement of the endotracheal tube left in place for a long enough period of time would result in death regardless of what the patient was hospitalized for."

The medical record clearly documents that the endotracheal tube was not misplaced. What he was intubated for was a complication of the Medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound which he suffered. If you can not recognize, it is another indication you know nothing about medicine or surgery.

Answer me this. If the endotracheal tube was not misplaced initially, why after Daye went into cardiac arrest was it removed and another endotracheal tube inserted? If the initial tube was correctly positioned, why not just leave it in place?

I await your answer.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"The charges [against Crystal Mangum] are baseless lacking credible evidence."

You have de facto admitted Mr. NI(ncompoop)FONG did wrongfully prosecute the innocent Lacrosse players, that he should have dismissed the charges.

By his own admission, Mr. NI(ncom[oop)FONG had no credible evidence that the Lacrosse players had committed the crimes of rape or sexual assault.

I do not admit that Mr. Nifong had no credible evidence in the Duke Lacrosse case. I believe the contrary. However, the Attorney General has refused to share the discovery with the public... like I have shared with the public on my blog site.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Answer me this. If the endotracheal tube was not misplaced initially, why after Daye went into cardiac arrest was it removed and another endotracheal tube inserted? If the initial tube was correctly positioned, why not just leave it in place?"

Why are you afraid to talk to the people who actually treated Reginald Daye. They were there. Neither you nor I were.

Better yet, why not let Crystal go to trial and you can try to confront them in open court?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Dr nichols has stated he stands by the report filed with cause of death from the stab wound. Period. Per N&O bull's eye note. Lets see......a highly experienced physician who has done countless similar case procedures, or harr, who claims to be a retired ED physician and has no documented experience in this forensic field. Wow......it's a tough call. The whacko or the competent person?

I did not see any statement in the N&O where Dr. Nichols claimed to stand by his autopsy report. Could you please send me a link?

Fact is that the autopsy report is not in sync with the other medical reports, or human anatomy.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Answer me this. If the endotracheal tube was not misplaced initially, why after Daye went into cardiac arrest was it removed and another endotracheal tube inserted? If the initial tube was correctly positioned, why not just leave it in place?"

Why are you afraid to talk to the people who actually treated Reginald Daye. They were there. Neither you nor I were.

Better yet, why not let Crystal go to trial and you can try to confront them in open court?

Hah! Are you kidding? Go to trial for what?! The prosecution has no case! Why waste taxpayer money on such nonsense and keep an innocent single mother of three incarcerated on a vendetta prosecution lacking credible evidence?

I must leave the library now and head home to work on the upcoming flog that will enlighten everyone about what transpired on April 3, 2011 and subsequently.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(INN)EY H(YPOCRITE)ARR(ACIST):

"Hah! Are you kidding? Go to trial for what?! The prosecution has no case! Why waste taxpayer money on such nonsense and keep an innocent single mother of three incarcerated on a vendetta prosecution lacking credible evidence?

I must leave the library now and head home to work on the upcoming flog that will enlighten everyone about what transpired on April 3, 2011 and subsequently."

There is probable cause to believe Crystal killed Reginald Daye, either murder or manslaughter. By what legal authority do you declare that the people have no case? Answer: none.

I say again, in all the years you have carried on your vendetta against the innocent men whom Crystal falsely accused of rape, you have enlightened no one. Your next blog will not be any different.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Your statement (that Reginald Daye had not been stabbed, he would not have uffered a complication of the medical treatment necesitated by the stabbing) makes as much sense and has as much relevance as this: 'If Mr. Daye would not have been born, he would not have been stabbed.'"

If that is an example of what you call enlightenment, it shows only you have regressed to the dark ages.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"I do not admit that Mr. Nifong had no credible evidence in the Duke Lacrosse case. I believe the contrary. However, the Attorney General has refused to share the discovery with the public... like I have shared with the public on my blog site."

What you do or do not admit is irrelevant. Mr. NI(ncompoo)FONG did admit he had no credible evidence against the Lacrosse players.

You yourself have admitted you have never reviewed the evidence in the case. So you have no basis to claim Mr. Cooper is withholding anything from the public. As has been documented, the only thing sealed from the public was Crystal's rather thick record of mental health issues.

You again show how incapable you are of enlightening anyone.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR:

"Answer me this. If the endotracheal tube was not misplaced initially, why after Daye went into cardiac arrest was it removed and another endotracheal tube inserted? If the initial tube was correctly positioned, why not just leave it in place?"

The medical record, which you had no legal right to publish, records that the position of the tube was confirmed by direct laryngoscopic observation, by the fact that the chest was moving, by x ray confirmation. Only a thoroughly incompetent physician would say, after that documentation, that the tube had been improperly placed.

Answer me this. When Crystal goes to trial, if you would appear in her behalf, if you would argue that the initial ET tube had been improperly placed, how would you prove it in the face of that documentation.

When Crystal goes to trial, my guess is you will not testify in her behalf. You have shown a great reluctance to testify in open court.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H9ypocrite)ARR(acist):

from: http://www.lifeissues.net/writer/smi/smi_01removeventilator.html:

"During an average stabilization period of 24-48 hours, the maximum resources of the hospital are directed at the patient. If needed, the patient can be taken from the ICU to surgery or specialized imaging areas. Paradoxically, the chance for severe morbidity or death increases as the period of time in the ICU increases. The paradox is explained by ICU patients being at risk for infection, with the risk positively correlated with time in the unit, as well as deficits in immune function."

In other words, the longer a patient requires life support, the less likely that patient is to survive.

Your citing of two anecdotal cases does not establish as fact that after a prolonged period on life support, Reginald Daye would have survived.

It does again establish how incapable you are of enlightening anyone.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist):

"Finally, the overriding issue is that Crystal Mangum stabbed Daye in self-defense. People with enlightenment understand this concept."

Unenlightened people like yourself and VIC(ious)TOR(acist)IA are the people claiming Crystal acted in self defense.

You claimed Crystal suffered injuries to the head and face from a severe beating. The medical records from Crystal's ER visit record she had minor injuries which did not require treatment.

The mug shot of Crystal, taken at the time of her arrest, does not show evidence of a severe beating to the head and face.

You may not want to publish that photo in your blog, but it is available for viewing on line, Oh not-so-great burned out lightbulb of Raleigh.

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist, aka the not-so-great burned out lightbub of Raleigh":

""Answer me this. If the endotracheal tube was not misplaced initially, why after Daye went into cardiac arrest was it removed and another endotracheal tube inserted? If the initial tube was correctly positioned, why not just leave it in place?""

If you really read the medical record, which you had no legal right to read, you would have read that Mr. Daye went into cardiac arrest after he was intubated, and it was documented the tube was in the proper position, and it was documented that he was being ventilated.

One possible explanation is that the treating doctors believed the tube had become dislodged and decided to replace it.

In any event, contrary to your repeated unenlightening statements about Mr. Daye's birth, he required intubation because of the stab wound Crystal inflicted upon him. A dislodgement of the tube would not, in this scenario, relieve Crystal of responsibility for his death.

It is up to a court, in a fair trial, not you or any of your racist associates, to decide whether or not there is criminal responsibility.

Anonymous said...

N&O bull's eye note online a week ago. Look it up,BRO. Nichols says you are full of it and he is correct

Anonymous said...

SIDN(inn)EY H(ypocrite)ARR(acist, the anything but great burned out lightbulb of Raleigh, consider this:

"Nichols, however, said Thursday that Daye’s death is directly linked to the stab wound.

“He was stabbed. He was treated, and as a direct result of his stab wound he died,” Nichols said.

Read more here: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/category/tags/Clay-Nichols#storylink=cpy

Dr. Nichols testifies to that effect in open court. Do you have the credentials to show you know more about autopsies than does Dr. Nichols?

Your rantings on your blog indicate you do not.

kenhyderal said...

Anonyymous @ 7:02 said; (in quoting Dr. Nichols) "He was stabbed. He was treated, and as a direct result of his stab wound he died”.......My question is, how did the treatment he received for alcoholic withdrawl delirium tremens, that was unrelated to his stab wound, figure in the cerebral anoxia that led to brain death.

Anonymous said...

KEN(inny)HY(pocrite)DER(acist)AL:

"My question is, how did the treatment he received for alcoholic withdrawl delirium tremens, that was unrelated to his stab wound, figure in the cerebral anoxia that led to brain death."

That question is irrelevant.

The relevant legal issue is, the assailant takes her victim as she finds him. You are arguing that Crystal is not responsible for the death because Mr. Daye had co morbidity.

Contrary to SIDN(inn)EY's unenlightening statements, the issue is that whatever complications resulted from the treatment which was necessary because of the stab wound.

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