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Turncoat defense attorneys help convict their clients

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Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Would yu please state what makes a physician a medical expert? How would he establish himself to a cour he is a medical expert?; June 13, 2014 at 10:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid Harr cannot be considered a medical expert in North Carolina.

(1) If the party against whom or on whose behalf the testimony is offered is a specialist, the expert witness must:

a. Specialize in the same specialty as the party against whom or on whose behalf the testimony is offered; or

b. Specialize in a similar specialty which includes within its specialty the performance of the procedure that is the subject of the complaint and have prior experience treating similar patients.

(2) During the year immediately preceding the date of the occurrence that is the basis for the action, the expert witness must have devoted a majority of his or her professional time to either or both of the following:

a. The active clinical practice of the same health profession in which the party against whom or on whose behalf the testimony is offered, and if that party is a specialist, the active clinical practice of the same specialty or a similar specialty which includes within its specialty the performance of the procedure that is the subject of the complaint and have prior experience treating similar patients; or

b. The instruction of students in an accredited health professional school or accredited residency or clinical research program in the same health profession in which the party against whom or on whose behalf the testimony is offered, and if that party is a specialist, an accredited health professional school or accredited residency or clinical research program in the same specialty.; June 13, 2014 at 10:21 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 10:21 AM wrote: "Sid Harr cannot be considered a medical expert in North Carolina."

Or anywhere else, for that matter. Sid also ignores the fact that the pattern jury instructions and the common law hold that malpractice is not an intervening cause. For it to be so, it must be the sole cause of death. Here, the jury either found no malpractice (a completely likely finding as there was no evidence of malpractice for them to draw that conclusion) or they found that it was not the sole cause of death. (Also a completely reasonable finding as there was clear evidence that Crystal stabbed the late Reginald Daye leading to his hospitalization.) Of course Sid has never been one to let the law or the facts stand in the way of a good lie.

Walt-in-Durham; June 13, 2014 at 10:52 AM
Anonymous said...: or they found that it was not the sole cause of death. (Also a completely reasonable finding as there was clear evidence that Crystal stabbed the late Reginald Daye leading to his hospitalization.)

Which is also what Dr. Nichols said, and what Dr. Roberts would have said. That the stab would was a contributing factor to the death, hence the death was due to complications from that stab wound.

But, Sid still thinks it would have been exculpatory.

He's just mad that no media organization has spoken with him, or wants to, since the IndyWeek article.; June 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid prevaricated:

"The esophageal intubation was the malpractice by Duke University Hospital staff that led to Daye going into cardiac arrest. It was after Daye lapsed into cardiac arrest that the effort was made to remove the mis-placed tube and re-insert another tube... this one properly placed as is evidenced by the resuscitation of the heart. However, the brain, which is very sensitive to oxygen-deprivation was brain dead... the direct and proximate result of the esophageal intubation."

Unfortunately for Mangum:

A. You are the only person who says so. In spite of having over two years to do so, not a single expert or medical report supports your claim. Knowing how invested you are in Mangum's cause and the importance you place on the alleged malpractice, it can be surmised that there is no support for it exists.

B. The malpractice claim is a of no legal significance to the Mangum murder case. This is not an opinion; it is the law. Even if you were somehow able to conjure up evidence to support your claim that Duke committed malpractice in its treatment of Daye, Mangum is still guilty of murder.; June 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM
The Great Kilgo said...: It's about time for another liestoppers crank meltdown.

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; June 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...: He squirms like worm
He quacks like a duck
Silly chicken killy
Knows he's f---ed.

And silly chickenkilly says it's the liestoppers who are melting down.; June 14, 2014 at 3:47 AM
The Great Kilgo said...: Oh No !

Ubes has lapsed into his

notorious Crank mode !

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; June 14, 2014 at 5:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Kilgo goes quack quack quack nd he says I am melting down?

None so blind as they who refuse to see.

Hey Kilgo. Go to a wedding and try to perform the Duck Dance.

Or listen to Rick Dees and his Cast of Idiots do Disco Duck. You seem to be into all things ducky.; June 14, 2014 at 6:14 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "So far as the murder of Reginald Daye, you yourself estimated the chance of Crystal acting in self defense was 2%. That did not add up to reasonable doubt. That added up to a 98% channce that Crystal did not act in self defense. It was the jury which rejected her claim of self defense"...... Don't be so disingenuous. From what I know and from common sense, the chance that it was self-defence is 100%. My point, though, was even if it was only a 2% chance that the DNA on Crystal's nails did not belong to Evans the benefit of the doubt should go to him and to any fair minded person the probability that Crystal acted in self defence is of a much greater magnitude.; June 15, 2014 at 8:02 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "The malpractice claim is a of no legal significance to the Mangum murder case. This is not an opinion; it is the law. Even if you were somehow able to conjure up evidence to support your claim that Duke committed malpractice in its treatment of Daye, Mangum is still guilty of murder".... "If the law says that the law is an ass". But, of course, that's not what the law says. Re-read the Judges instructions to the jury. The malpractice must be related to a treatment for complications of the wound. This was never shown to be the case; only speculated about. If medical malpractice, in a procedure unrelated to his wound was the sole cause of his brain death then there was no murder.; June 15, 2014 at 8:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny "Mystery Rapists" Hyderal:

I suggest that you not be disinguous in posts in which you tell other posters not to be disingenuous.

Others have suggested to you that your posts may be more persuasive if you actually provided evidence to support your conclusion. The unsupported opinion of someone who professes a belief in mystery rapists is utterly worthless.

Your post is once again disingenuous. You once again rely on straw man arguments.

No one concludes that the 98% non-exclusion of the DNA proves that Evans did not rape Mangum. The argument about the probability is a reaction to those who falsely use this as some sort of smoking gun that proves guilt. I believe that it is probably Evans' DNA and that transference is the likely explanation. The vast amount of other evidence is what convinces me of his innocence.

You remind me of inmyhumbleopinion and the other trolls from the TalkLeft blog in the early days of the discussion of the hoax. You insist on analyzing a single piece of evidence in isolation. You then assert that that single piece of evidence can be consistent with rape. You then take the possibility that N&O explanation consistent with rape can be true to assert that a rape could have occurred.

You never, of course, consider the probability of explanations for numerous pieces of evidence occurring simultaneously. A 20% probability of an explanation of a single piece of evidence implies the real possibility that a rape could have occurred. A 20% probability of each of 20 things occurring simultaneously is about 1%. You ignore that. But of course you know that.; June 15, 2014 at 8:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Thank you autocorrect.

N&O should be "an"; June 15, 2014 at 8:41 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

" Don't be so disingenuous. From what I know and from common sense, the chance that it was self-defence is 100%."

If you rally believe that you have no common sense. The actual probability that Crystal acted in self defense is zero.

"My point, though, was even if it was only a 2% chance that the DNA on Crystal's nails did not belong to Evans the benefit of the doubt should go to him"

You have previously posted that you give doubt in the phony rape case to Crystal. Don't be hypocritical.

"and to any fair minded person the probability that Crystal acted in self defence is of a much greater magnitude."

Don't be so disingenuous. The probability was zero.; June 15, 2014 at 8:50 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"But, of course, that's not what the law says. Re-read the Judges instructions to the jury. The malpractice must be related to a treatment for complications of the wound."

It was.That is clear to anyone knowledgeable about matters medical.

"This was never shown to be the case; only speculated about."

Don't be so woefully and willfully stupid. It was.

"If medical malpractice, in a procedure unrelated to his wound was the sole cause of his brain death then there was no murder."

It was related to the treatment of his stab wound. Your unfamiliarity with matters medical does not raise any question about that.; June 15, 2014 at 8:54 AM
Anonymous said...: My math was wrong.

The probability of 20 independent things happening simultaneously with a 20% chance of each occurring is about 1 x 10^-14.

The 1% probability was 20 independent things happening with an 80% chance of each.

In either case, Kenny, your insistence on analyzing each piece of evidence in isolation is intellectually dishonest. But you know that.; June 15, 2014 at 9:28 AM
Anonymous said...: The chances of any living thing defending themselves from assualt carries the probability of 100%. Nuff said.; June 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny whined:

"Anonymous said: "The malpractice claim is a of no legal significance to the Mangum murder case. This is not an opinion; it is the law. Even if you were somehow able to conjure up evidence to support your claim that Duke committed malpractice in its treatment of Daye, Mangum is still guilty of murder".... "If the law says that the law is an ass". But, of course, that's not what the law says. Re-read the Judges instructions to the jury. The malpractice must be related to a treatment for complications of the wound. This was never shown to be the case; only speculated about. If medical malpractice, in a procedure unrelated to his wound was the sole cause of his brain death then there was no murder."

Kenny, I am talking about the Mangum murder trial. There is nothing for anyone to speculate about:

Mr. Daye was in the hospital because Mangum stabbed him. He was being treated for the stab wound when he was intubated and died.

Stick to the facts of the case and be truthful.; June 15, 2014 at 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal,
Let's be clear on this. No pone whose opinion matters really believes that Crystal acted in self-defense. Why don't you do something to help Crystal, rather than waste your time with foolish arguments?
And please don't tell us that your help for Crystal "is between her and I".; June 15, 2014 at 11:22 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"The esophageal intubation was the malpractice by Duke University Hospital staff that led to Daye going into cardiac arrest. It was after Daye lapsed into cardiac arrest that the effort was made to remove the mis-placed tube and re-insert another tube... this one properly placed as is evidenced by the resuscitation of the heart. However, the brain, which is very sensitive to oxygen-deprivation was brain dead... the direct and proximate result of the esophageal intubation."

This did not rise to the level. Your lack of knowledge about things medical, a consequence of your minimal training and minimal experience does not raise it to the level of malpractice.

Anytime someone is intubated in the esophagus, and the errant placement goes unrecognized until the patient lapses into cardiac arrest, then surely malpractice has occurred. It's a no-brainer.; June 15, 2014 at 11:29 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

Would yu please state what makes a physician a medical expert? How would he establish himself to a cour he is a medical expert?

I do not know what is the legal definition of a "medical expert." I would assume that most physicians would have more expertise than lay people about general basic medical concepts.; June 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Anonymous at 10:21 AM wrote: "Sid Harr cannot be considered a medical expert in North Carolina."

Or anywhere else, for that matter. Sid also ignores the fact that the pattern jury instructions and the common law hold that malpractice is not an intervening cause. For it to be so, it must be the sole cause of death. Here, the jury either found no malpractice (a completely likely finding as there was no evidence of malpractice for them to draw that conclusion) or they found that it was not the sole cause of death. (Also a completely reasonable finding as there was clear evidence that Crystal stabbed the late Reginald Daye leading to his hospitalization.) Of course Sid has never been one to let the law or the facts stand in the way of a good lie.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, the jury never got a chance to consider an intervening cause in Daye's death as turncoat attorney Daniel Meier kept the jurors from hearing about it! Meier even conceded that Daye died of an infectious complication of the stab wound!! Talk about a sell-out!; June 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid prevaricated:

"The esophageal intubation was the malpractice by Duke University Hospital staff that led to Daye going into cardiac arrest. It was after Daye lapsed into cardiac arrest that the effort was made to remove the mis-placed tube and re-insert another tube... this one properly placed as is evidenced by the resuscitation of the heart. However, the brain, which is very sensitive to oxygen-deprivation was brain dead... the direct and proximate result of the esophageal intubation."

Unfortunately for Mangum:

A. You are the only person who says so. In spite of having over two years to do so, not a single expert or medical report supports your claim. Knowing how invested you are in Mangum's cause and the importance you place on the alleged malpractice, it can be surmised that there is no support for it exists.

B. The malpractice claim is a of no legal significance to the Mangum murder case. This is not an opinion; it is the law. Even if you were somehow able to conjure up evidence to support your claim that Duke committed malpractice in its treatment of Daye, Mangum is still guilty of murder.

WRONG-O on both counts!
Regarding point A, Dr. Roberts clearly states in her report that the initial intubation was esophageal.
Regarding point B, the esophageal intubation was the sole cause for Daye's brain death, and had he not been intubated in the esophagus he would not have become brain dead, ergo an intervening cause of death is applicable in this case.; June 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Kenny whined:

"Anonymous said: "The malpractice claim is a of no legal significance to the Mangum murder case. This is not an opinion; it is the law. Even if you were somehow able to conjure up evidence to support your claim that Duke committed malpractice in its treatment of Daye, Mangum is still guilty of murder".... "If the law says that the law is an ass". But, of course, that's not what the law says. Re-read the Judges instructions to the jury. The malpractice must be related to a treatment for complications of the wound. This was never shown to be the case; only speculated about. If medical malpractice, in a procedure unrelated to his wound was the sole cause of his brain death then there was no murder."

Kenny, I am talking about the Mangum murder trial. There is nothing for anyone to speculate about:

Mr. Daye was in the hospital because Mangum stabbed him. He was being treated for the stab wound when he was intubated and died.

Stick to the facts of the case and be truthful.

True, Daye was in the hospital because of the stab wound, but the stab wound and/or its treatment had nothing to do with the problematic intubation. He was intubated to help treat symptoms of delirium tremens.

Comprende?; June 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Anytime someone is intubated in the esophagus, and the errant placement goes unrecognized until the patient lapses into cardiac arrest, then surely malpractice has occurred. It's a no-brainer."

The no brainer here is you. What Dr. Roberts described was something occurring very rapidly. That an esphageal intubation occurred in this scenario does not rise to the level of malpractice.; June 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I do not know what is the legal definition of a 'medical expert.'"

Which means you are ignorant. You, eshibiting a commn behavior for you, are trying to dodge the question.

"I would assume that most physicians would have more expertise than lay people about general basic medical concepts."

However, with your dearth of training and your dearth of experience ysinc Medical School, you do not.; June 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Regarding point A, Dr. Roberts clearly states in her report that the initial intubation was esophageal.
Regarding point B, the esophageal intubation was the sole cause for Daye's brain death, and had he not been intubated in the esophagus he would not have become brain dead, ergo an intervening cause of death is applicable in this case."

Shirley you jest and not very effectively on either point.

Dr. Roberts said more than that there was an esophageal intubation but that it happened because the view of the air way ws obscured by the vomitus. Esophageal intubation in the face of that, a very emergent intubation, it does not rise to the level of malpractice, and you ARE NOT qualified to make that judgment.

The need to intubate arose from the necessity to work up Mr. Daye for an intraabominal infection. If you think the indications weren't there, it is another indication of how medically incompetent you are. Had Mr. Daye not been stabbed he would not have been at risk of intra abdominal infection. The occurrence of the esophageal intubation does not relieve Crystal of criminal liability for his death.

Dr. Roberts' report was that the colon laceration was 25% of the circumference of the colon. That is not a minor wound. That is a gaping wound. As there were hours between Crystal's infliction of the wound and the surgery, there was plenty of contamination of the peritoneal cavity.; June 15, 2014 at 12:05 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"True, Daye was in the hospital because of the stab wound, but the stab wound and/or its treatment had nothing to do with the problematic intubation. He was intubated to help treat symptoms of delirium tremens.

Comprende?"

I do. You don't. He was intubated after he vomited and aspirated while being evaluated for an intra-abdominal infection.

Your lack of knowledge of things medical does not raise any doubt about that.; June 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, the jury never got a chance to consider an intervening cause in Daye's death as turncoat attorney Daniel Meier kept the jurors from hearing about it! Meier even conceded that Daye died of an infectious complication of the stab wound!! Talk about a sell-out!"

Shirley here you really do jest and make a fool of yourself.

You admit you are a lawyer. But you think you know more about matters legal than true lawyers.

The only ones who think the esophageal intubation was not related to the stab wound are you and KENHYDERAL. Neither one of you is competent to comment on the issue.; June 15, 2014 at 12:12 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, the jury never got a chance to consider an intervening cause in Daye's death as turncoat attorney Daniel Meier kept the jurors from hearing about it! Meier even conceded that Daye died of an infectious complication of the stab wound!! Talk about a sell-out!"

Here you again display a common behavior for you, ducking addressing the issue.; June 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM
Anonymous said...: I feel sorry for Mr.Daye but I can't imagine why he would get involved with somebody like Crystal Mangum.I can't see how even a black man would be attracted to her.Now they are both in a better place.; June 15, 2014 at 6:21 PM
Whatchoo tawkin 'bout, Sidney? said...: Anonymous @ June 15, 2014 at 6:21 PM said...

I feel sorry for Mr.Daye but I can't imagine why he would get involved with somebody like Crystal Mangum.

He was warned:

“It’s Crystal Mangum. THE Crystal Mangum! I told him she was trouble from the damn beginning.”; June 15, 2014 at 9:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Being stated as 'trouble' and Mr. Daye being on the jury of her previous trial combined, he had no excuses for assaulting her as he did, even if it was in a drunken rage. Ms. Mangum had no mandate to let him continue to assualt her just because someone stated she was 'trouble'. And Duke had no right to kill him with malpractice in order to frame her for murder after she inflicted one non-fatal wound while defending herself just because he was in a drunken rage, was on the previous jury, and was a patient of convenience available at their disposal to exact revenge on Ms. Mangum.; June 16, 2014 at 2:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymos June 16, 2014 at 2:14 AM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?; June 16, 2014 at 3:45 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, the jury never got a chance to consider an intervening cause in Daye's death as turncoat attorney Daniel Meier kept the jurors from hearing about it!"

From whom? Certainly not Dr. Roberts who concurred in the Medical Examiner's ruling on cause of death. In court, we need evidence. Crystal had none.

"Meier even conceded that Daye died of an infectious complication of the stab wound!! Talk about a sell-out!"

It is not a sell out when one tells the truth. It is not a sell out when one refuses to lie.

Walt-in-Durham; June 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Duke was one of Mangum's biggest proponents. They bought into Mangum's rape lie hook, line and sinker. In fact, Duke's support of Mangum ended up costing them millions of dollars when it was revealed her rape claim was a vicious hoax.

Moreover, Mr. Daye's death was a windfall for Mangum from a legal standpoint as he was the state's best witness and the only witness who could provide direct testimony to refute Mangum's self defense claim. Had Mangum concocted a better story that was in line with the physical evidence she may have walked, or at least been convicted of the lesser crime of manslaughter. Her (and Sid's hubris) was her undoing.

I know a conspiracy is necessary to explain away the evidence against Mangum and paper over the facts and the law that are against her. However, conspiracies need to make sense and they have to be supported by evidence. The "Duke murdered Daye" conspiracy falls short in both respects.

You need to come up with something much better.; June 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM
Anonymous said...: it's actually all very clear and simple if you understood either case and duke

lucky you; June 16, 2014 at 2:11 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; June 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM
kenhyderal said...: The autopsy, by the careless, negligent and overworked Dr. Nicholls, made no mention of the esophageal intubation or of the cardiac arrest. He could not specify nor did he even state a presumption about what was the specific complication relating to the surgical repair. It took weeks for his autopsy to be released. He stated that Daye had a normal liver but then again he also stated that the spleen had been removed at Duke and yet he was able to record it's weight in the report. Dr. Roberts in her report said that there were "too many" discrepancies. Yet, in order to shield and excuse, the previously fired, Dr. Nichol's sloppy work, she tried to shift the blame to Duke's records which although holding no one to blame for the malpractice seemed to be more accurate.; June 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"The autopsy, by the careless, negligent and overworked Dr. Nicholls,"

You are presuming facts not in evidence. Yes I am aware of the investigation into the NC Medical Examiner's office. There was no evidence that the autopsy was slipshod or inadequate,

"made no mention of the esophageal intubation or of the cardiac arrest."

As one who has done autopsies, I say an autopsy report would not make any comment about esophageal intubation or cardiac arrest. Cardiac arrest was obvious. Mr. Daye was dead when Dr. Nichols autopsied his body.

"He could not specify nor did he even state a presumption about what was the specific complication relating to the surgical repair. It took weeks for his autopsy to be released."

In this case it would not be unusual that it would take a bit of time to fashion the autopsy report. You would have known that had you been knowledgeable about matters medical.

"He stated that Daye had a normal liver but then again he also stated that the spleen had been removed at Duke and yet he was able to record it's weight in the report."

The problem there is with the operation report, not with the autopsy. Or are you saying Dr, Nichols fabricated the presence of an autopsy.

"Dr. Roberts in her report said that there were "too many" discrepancies. Yet, in order to shield and excuse, the previously fired, Dr. Nichol's sloppy work,"

Again, in attempt to ger your favorite murderess a pass for her crimes, you are presuming facts not in evidence. In spite of the discrepancies Dr. ROberts upheld Dr. Nichols' conclusions.

"she tried to shift the blame to Duke's records which although holding no one to blame for the malpractice seemed to be more accurate."

There was no malpractice. What medical credentials do you have to make that judgment? None. You again are presuming facts not in evidence in an attempt to get your favorite murderess a pass for her crime.

If the medical report said the spleen had been removed but Dr. Nichols found the spleen in place, that would say Duke's records were inaccurate.; June 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

In case you haven't realized it, calling someone you do not like names, is not a reasonable argument.

It is one of the propaganda techniques the Nazis used against the Jews of Europe.; June 16, 2014 at 3:13 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Note the comment of Anonymous June 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM.

He says something I said earlier and it deals with who killed Reginald Daye. SIDNEY HARR, the minimally trained, minimally experienced person with an MD degree appended to his name says Duke had motivation to kill Reginald Daye. The only people who would have wanted Reginald Daye dead were people like you and SIDNEY who wanted to get her a pass for her crimes.; June 16, 2014 at 3:17 PM
kenhyderal said...: As usual Dr. Anonymous makes no sense whatsoever. Why would I or Dr. Harr have wanted Reginald Daye dead and how would him being dead help Crystal. His death allowed for a vendetta prosecution. His supposed altruism towards Crystal and her Children was exposed simply as a cover for his abusive, jealous controlling and misogynist nature. This knowledge would have caused her to leave this unsafe situation; June 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: In case you haven't realized it, calling someone you do not like names, is not a reasonable argument"......... See Matthew 7:3; June 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Whatchoo tawkin 'bout, Sidney? said...
Anonymous @ June 15, 2014 at 6:21 PM said...

I feel sorry for Mr.Daye but I can't imagine why he would get involved with somebody like Crystal Mangum.

He was warned:

“It’s Crystal Mangum. THE Crystal Mangum! I told him she was trouble from the damn beginning.”

As has been frequently misleading in the media, it was the emergency 911 operator who first said, "THE Crystal Mangum?" It was then that Daye's nephew repeated what the 911 operator had said, putting emphasis on the THE.; June 16, 2014 at 4:38 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Walt, the jury never got a chance to consider an intervening cause in Daye's death as turncoat attorney Daniel Meier kept the jurors from hearing about it!"

From whom? Certainly not Dr. Roberts who concurred in the Medical Examiner's ruling on cause of death. In court, we need evidence. Crystal had none.

"Meier even conceded that Daye died of an infectious complication of the stab wound!! Talk about a sell-out!"

It is not a sell out when one tells the truth. It is not a sell out when one refuses to lie.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, tell me how an infectious process led to Daye's brain death. Daye surely didn't die from septic shock.; June 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"As usual Dr. Anonymous makes no sense whatsoever."

Yes I do. You do not have the intelligence to sense it.

"Why would I or Dr. Harr have wanted Reginald Daye dead and how would him being dead help Crystal."

It is now history that Reginald Daye and his nephew told the police he had been stabbed by Crystal Mangum. People who wanted to get Crystal a pass for her crimes would not have wanted him alive to testify. That would include you and SIDNEY. You may not have had the opportunity to kill Mr. Daye but you and SIDNEY would have had a motive.

"His death allowed for a vendetta prosecution. His supposed altruism towards Crystal and her Children was exposed simply as a cover for his abusive, jealous controlling and misogynist nature."

No it wasn't. According to police records Reginald Daye was not violent towards women. And there was no history of chronic alcoholism. You are lying.

"This knowledge would have caused her to leave this unsafe situation".

This knowledge never came to Crystal until AFTER Reginald Daye was dead and she was facing a charge of murder 1.; June 16, 2014 at 4:42 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: kenhyderal said...
The autopsy, by the careless, negligent and overworked Dr. Nicholls, made no mention of the esophageal intubation or of the cardiac arrest. He could not specify nor did he even state a presumption about what was the specific complication relating to the surgical repair. It took weeks for his autopsy to be released. He stated that Daye had a normal liver but then again he also stated that the spleen had been removed at Duke and yet he was able to record it's weight in the report. Dr. Roberts in her report said that there were "too many" discrepancies. Yet, in order to shield and excuse, the previously fired, Dr. Nichol's sloppy work, she tried to shift the blame to Duke's records which although holding no one to blame for the malpractice seemed to be more accurate.

An accurate assessment from an enlightened man.; June 16, 2014 at 4:42 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. Anonymous said: In case you haven't realized it, calling someone you do not like names, is not a reasonable argument"......... See Matthew 7:3"

This verse most definitely applies to you more than anyone else on this blog.; June 16, 2014 at 4:44 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Being stated as 'trouble' and Mr. Daye being on the jury of her previous trial combined, he had no excuses for assaulting her as he did, even if it was in a drunken rage. Ms. Mangum had no mandate to let him continue to assualt her just because someone stated she was 'trouble'. And Duke had no right to kill him with malpractice in order to frame her for murder after she inflicted one non-fatal wound while defending herself just because he was in a drunken rage, was on the previous jury, and was a patient of convenience available at their disposal to exact revenge on Ms. Mangum.

To my knowledge, Daye was not on the jury in the 2010 arson case against Mangum, but I do believe that is when they first met. Otherwise, the statements Anonymous made are ones with which I agree.; June 16, 2014 at 4:47 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"As has been frequently misleading in the media, it was the emergency 911 operator who first said, "THE Crystal Mangum?" It was then that Daye's nephew repeated what the 911 operator had said, putting emphasis on the THE."

And with Crystal's long history of violent and sociopathic behavior, stealing a cab and trying to run down a peace officer, falsely accusing three innocent men of raping her, setting Milton Walker's apartment on fire and then initially denying it, it is no wonder anyone would refer to Crystal as THE Crystal.; June 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, tell me how an infectious process led to Daye's brain death. Daye surely didn't die from septic shock."

Here you demonstrate that you are a minimally trained, minimally experienced person with an MD degree inappropriately appended to your name.

Reginald Daye was being worked up for an intra abdominal infection. In the course of that workup he vomited and aspirated. That was the cause of his death. That DID NOT rise to the level of malpractice.

What was the indication for the workup. Reginals Daye was febrile and tachycardic. Crystal Mangum had inflicted a penetrating injury to the colon, which is contaminated. The laceration, according to Dr Roberts' report was 25% of the circumference of he colon. That is not an insignificant injury. As several hours passed before Crystal inflicted the wound and surgery was performed, meaning there was a lot of contamination of the peritoneal cavity.

If Crystal had not stabbed Reginald Daye he would not have needed a workup for an intra-abdominal infection.; June 16, 2014 at 4:57 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"An accurate assessment from an enlightened man."

Only a minimally trained, minimally experienced person with an MD inappropriately appended to his name would call KENHYDERAL sn enlightened man who can form an accurate assessment of a Medical situation.

You don't know yourself what an accurate assessment of the specific situation is.; June 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"To my knowledge,"

This assumes a fact not in evidence, that you are capable of knowledge.

"Daye was not on the jury in the 2010 arson case against Mangum, but I do believe that is when they first met. Otherwise, the statements Anonymous made are ones with which I agree."

Which shows again you are a minimally trained, minimally experienced person who inappropriately has an MD appended to his name.; June 16, 2014 at 5:04 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous accuses others of calling names when in fact the record clearly shows that he is, by far, the worst offender, in this regard. One way I've learned to distinguish his Anonymous cowardly posts is by his frequent use of pejoratives ; racist, Nazi, unintelligent, minimally trained, inexperienced, schizoid etc. etc. Get a life Dr. A. The illusory superiority you try to portray over those of us you consider inferior make you look rather arrogant and frankly quite pathetic; June 16, 2014 at 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...: For God's sake, Kenhyderal, can't you stop repeating the same arguments over and over again? No pone believes you, anyway.; June 17, 2014 at 2:21 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. Anonymous accuses others of calling names when in fact the record clearly shows that he is, by far, the worst offender, in this regard. One way I've learned to distinguish his Anonymous cowardly posts is by his frequent use of pejoratives ; racist, Nazi, unintelligent, minimally trained, inexperienced, schizoid etc. etc. Get a life Dr. A. The illusory superiority you try to portray over those of us you consider inferior make you look rather arrogant and frankly quite pathetic".

KENHYDERAL again tries to stone me to death by stoning me with popcorn from a range of 100 yards.

KENHYDERAL, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!(from A Few Good Men).; June 17, 2014 at 3:56 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

If my superiority is so illusory why do you resent it so much?; June 17, 2014 at 3:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, tell me how an infectious process led to Daye's brain death. Daye surely didn't die from septic shock."

Here you demonstrate that you are a minimally trained, minimally experienced person with an MD degree inappropriately appended to your name.

Reginald Daye was being worked up for an intra abdominal infection. In the course of that workup he vomited and aspirated. That was the cause of his death. That DID NOT rise to the level of malpractice.

What was the indication for the workup. Reginals Daye was febrile and tachycardic. Crystal Mangum had inflicted a penetrating injury to the colon, which is contaminated. The laceration, according to Dr Roberts' report was 25% of the circumference of he colon. That is not an insignificant injury. As several hours passed before Crystal inflicted the wound and surgery was performed, meaning there was a lot of contamination of the peritoneal cavity.

If Crystal had not stabbed Reginald Daye he would not have needed a workup for an intra-abdominal infection.

Hah! In your convenient version of events, Daye was never intubated in the esophagus... right? Face the facts, it was the esophageal intubation that was responsible for Daye's going into cardiac arrest and his brain death. Nice try with the aspiration scenario. Also, there was nothing to indicate that Daye suffered from an intra-abdominal infection. I never saw anything about blood cultures being taken, or an infectious disease specialist being called in on the case. Daye's agitation and other symptoms on the third postoperative day were due to impending delirium tremens.

The facts are the facts.; June 17, 2014 at 8:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Mr. Daye was in the hospital because Mangum stabbed him and no other reason. He was not there for TB, meningitis, a heart attack, cancer or anything else. He was there because he had been stabbed.

All DUMC's treatment of Mr. Daye treatments were necessitated by, related and arising out of the stabbing. Mr. Daye did not recover from the stab wound and then was readmitted for something unrelated. He never recovered from the stab wound.

Two medical professionals independently concluded that Mr. Daye died as a direct result of the knife wound inflicted by Mangum.

In over two years Sid has failed to produce a single report or expert to state that anything other than Mangun's stab wound was the cause of Mr. Daye's death. Knowing how innvested Sid is in Mangum and how essential a such a report and/or expert testimony is to her case, the fair inference is that Sid has looked far and wide and no such evidence exists (either that or Sid doesn't care one wit about Mangum case and is a troll). In any event, absent a report or expert testimony, Sid's opinions are of no legal significance.

Sid bet - and lost - a good chunk of Mangum's life on his crackpottery. There is no reason to believe he will acknoeldge his errors now - even after his folly has been exposed and laid bare for all to see. He will simply continue to struggle with the vast expanse between reality and his views.; June 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Hah! In your convenient version of events, Daye was never intubated in the esophagus... right?"

Wrong. I never said that. You lack reading comprehension.

"Face the facts, it was the esophageal intubation that was responsible for Daye's going into cardiac arrest and his brain death. Nice try with the aspiration scenario."

Reginald Daye did aspirate. Again, you lack reading comprehension.

"Also, there was nothing to indicate that Daye suffered from an intra-abdominal infection."

Yes there was. Your minimal training, minimal experience in medical matters does not rule out the possibility of intra abdominal infection, The occurrence of a laceration of the colon 25% of the colon circumference does rule in the possibility.

"I never saw anything about blood cultures being taken, or an infectious disease specialist being called in on the case."

A positive blood culture would have established the presence of an infection. It would not have established the site of the infection. You would have known that had you been knowledgeable in matters medical. So far as you lack of knowledge of an ID specialist being called in, so what? You show a lack of knowledge about a lot of this case.

"Daye's agitation and other symptoms on the third postoperative day were due to impending delirium tremens."

To have assumed that and not looked or an infection would have been malpractice.

"The facts are the facts."

Yes they are, and you are ignorant of them, because you choose to be.; June 17, 2014 at 9:31 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Correction.

At one time I did believe there had been no exophageal intubation. Then I read Dr, Roberts' report, realized my error and acknowledged it.

In my post about aspiration, which is something Dr. Roberts did document, I did not say that no esophageal intubation took place. I did say it did not rise to the level of medical malpractice.

Your lack of training, your lack of experience does not establish that Reginald Daye suffered from impending Dts; June 17, 2014 at 9:34 AM
kenhyderal said...: It was the diagnosis judged most likely.; June 17, 2014 at 9:58 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"It(dts) was the diagnosis judged most likely."

By whom? You who have no medical experience or training? Or SIDNEY whose training and experience were minimal?; June 17, 2014 at 10:58 AM
Anonymous said...: that's just bs evil duke troll nonretired nondoc - there is no way you could have missed the intubation errors in the duke medical reports ... non

what bs as usual; June 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?

Regards, edt; June 17, 2014 at 11:49 AM
Anonymous said...: the first ME stated under oath that the infection was in the lung - even going so far as to show pics of an infected lung

so now the infection is where? not the lungs?

durham in nonwonderland at its finest; June 17, 2014 at 11:50 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 17, 2014 at 11:50 AM

It was documented that Reginald Daye had vomited and aspirated. He died several days later.

It is not at all remarkable that the pathologist would find infection in the lungs days after a patient has aspirated. It did not rule out the possibility of an ongoing intraperitoneal infection on the 3rd post op day.; June 17, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid/Mangum cannot win based on the actual facts of the case and the law. Thus, Sid fabricates facts and ignore the law to reach the conclusion he wants. This includes, but is not limited to, creating conspiracies and irresponsibly sliming Judges, lawyers, doctors and others, where necessary to explain the absence of evidence to support his claims and bridge the divide between reality and Sid's fabrications.

As Sid is learning in a very hard and public way (and as Mangum has already painfully learned) this sort of conduct does not work well in the real world, where we are bound by reality and law; where claims must be supported by evidence and where things like truth, credibility, history and reputation matter.; June 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; June 17, 2014 at 4:18 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; June 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM
kenhyderal said...: Evidence! : A BAC 296mg/dl, A drunken jealous rage; A kicked in bathroom door (admitted to); Hair of Crystal ripped from her head(admitted to). Truth! A witness under oath and under cross examination vs. a self serving interview given to a Policewoman. Just as the esophageal intubation, once denied here by the Crystal haters, had to be admitted to, Daye's history of alcohol abuse will also have to be acknowledged.; June 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Evidence! : A BAC 296mg/dl,"

Probably a lab error. A man who could have tolerated a BAC that high would have had a damaged liver. Reginald Daye did not. Liver damage is a consequence of exposure of he liver to the toxic metabolits of alcohol detoxification. If Mr. Daye could have tolerated a BAC that high, he would have been exposing his liver to high level of liver toxins for years.

"A drunken jealous rage;"

No evidence of that.

"A kicked in bathroom door (admitted to); Hair of Crystal ripped from her head(admitted to)."

But no history of excessively violent behavior on the part of Mr. Daye prior to his slaying, no history of excessive alcohol intake.

"Truth! A witness under oath and under cross examination vs. a self serving interview given to a Policewoman."

If you mean Crystal, Crystal does have a history of fabricating testimony. Reginald Daye did not.

"Just as the esophageal intubation, once denied here by the Crystal haters, had to be admitted to, Daye's history of alcohol abuse will also have to be acknowledged."

Mr. Daye, according to the records SIDNEY posted, did not hace a history of alcohol abuse. Just like Kilgo did not have a Lacrosse player friend who witnessed a sexual assault on Crystal on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

More popcorn hurled at a range of 100 yards.; June 17, 2014 at 5:04 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

This is the man who says the finding of non LAX player DNA on Crystal establishes a rape happened on the night o 13/14 March 2006. The DNA, according to KENNY, can not be explained by Crystal's consensual history and contained DNA from sperm.

There was an article from SI quoted at length in a previous post. According to that article, Crystal's driver drove her to 4 appointments with men in hotels before driving her to a party. As I recall DNA from 4 unknown men was discovered on Crystal's person. If KENNY thinks men will pay money for a woman to meet them in hotel rooms just for chat and company, he is deluded.

KENNY admits that Crystal had sex with her boyfriend shortly before the party. I posted a reference to a graphic summing up the results of the DNA analysis done by DNA Security. According to DNASI, the sperm fraction DNA found on Crystal belonged to her boyfriend.

That's the kind of evidence KENNY comes up with.; June 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. A:

Kenny is a troll. He doesn't believe all of the nonsense he posts. I think he believes some of it. Some of it is just to trigger a reaction in others. You are his favorite poster because you always react.

The mystery rapists theory is nonsense. Kenny doesn't even try to convince anyone of that. On the other hand, I think he really does believe Crystal was unfairly convicted. However, after the mystery rapists nonsense and the other fairy tales he pushed, no one believes anything he has to say. He obviously doesn't understand credibility.; June 17, 2014 at 6:09 PM
Anonymous said...: By who? It was specifically ruled out - it was suspected and ruled out, as the medical records and Dr Roerts report conclusively demonstrate - you can repeat it over and over and it doesn't change the facts. You and Sid are idiots.; June 17, 2014 at 6:36 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A said: "By whom? You who have no medical experience or training? Or SIDNEY whose training and experience were minimal"... It was the presumptive diagnosis by Duke Hospital; June 17, 2014 at 8:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Infections make people agitated or DT's, (or not letting people leave the hospital so they can put their feet up and down a 12 pack to stave off the DT's)?

???; June 17, 2014 at 9:14 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A. said: "Probably a Lab error"..... Oh, sure if it doesn't fit your assumptions it has to be a Lab error. (A drunken jealous rage) "No evidence of that"......... You need to re-read Constable Bond's interview with Daye in the Hospital http://www.justice4nifong.com/legal/cgm/blink/blink112912/docu09.htm "But no history of excessively violent behavior on the part of Mr. Daye prior to his slaying, no history of excessive alcohol intake"......... We have history of that now.; June 17, 2014 at 9:20 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; June 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "If KENNY thinks men will pay money for a woman to meet them in hotel rooms just for chat and company, he is deluded",,,, Crystal's employment required her to give erotic dance performances for clients booked by her Agency. These people could easily be traced because the Agency who booked Crystal for them recorded their names and home addresses. As would have the Hotel where they were staying. Those checked out by investigators denied any sexual contact but their DNA was not collected.; June 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. A said: "By whom? You who have no medical experience or training? Or SIDNEY whose training and experience were minimal"... It was the presumptive diagnosis by Duke Hospital".

OK. It was also the diagnosis of Duke Hospital that an intra abdomina infection was a possibility, something you would have realized had you been knowledgeable about matters medical.; June 18, 2014 at 3:17 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. A. said: "Probably a Lab error"..... Oh, sure if it doesn't fit your assumptions it has to be a Lab error."

I would say with justification that is your attitude and has been your attitude since you learned about the phony rape case. If something does not fit your guilt presuming racism, ignore it.

"(A drunken jealous rage) "No evidence of that"......... You need to re-read Constable Bond's interview with Daye in the Hospital"

I have.

http://www.justice4nifong.com/legal/cgm/blink/blink112912/docu09.htm

"But no history of excessively violent behavior on the part of Mr. Daye prior to his slaying, no history of excessive alcohol intake"......... We have history of that now."

You say that only because you want your favorite murderess given a pass for her crimes. It is another iteration of, ignore everything which does not support your advocacy of Crystal.; June 18, 2014 at 3:22 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"

Anonymous said: "If KENNY thinks men will pay money for a woman to meet them in hotel rooms just for chat and company, he is deluded",,,, Crystal's employment required her to give erotic dance performances for clients booked by her Agency. These people could easily be traced because the Agency who booked Crystal for them recorded their names and home addresses. As would have the Hotel where they were staying. Those checked out by investigators denied any sexual contact but their DNA was not collected."

Again you deem any evidence which does not support your presumption of guilt as not valid. It does not work that way, KENNY. The DNA found on Crystal was not deposited on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

Besides, the story on Crystal after the false rape allegations became public was she had never danced for men before the Lacrosse party.; June 18, 2014 at 3:25 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"[Crystal's clients] checked out by investigators denied any sexual contact but their DNA was not collected."

You should be asking the question, why not. The innocent Lacrosse players denied any sexual contact with Crystal and they were ordered to give DNA samples.

Prostitution is illegal in NC. Do you think anyone who engaged Crystal's services as a prostitute would admit it?

I remind you, forensic testing of the rape kit CLEARED all the suspected membes of the Lacrosse team of any sexual contact sith Crystal.; June 18, 2014 at 3:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Didn't kilgo say it was someone else at the party? Isn't that what Kenny is curious about, and why you keep posting endlessly about that case, and blaming every one else in the world for?; June 18, 2014 at 4:20 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

If Crystal's contacts had ben DA tested and if their DNA matched the non LAX DNA, it would have established that no DNA had been deposited on Crystal at the party.

The DA's responsibility in this case was to determine the truth. If there is something which would exonerate his suspects he was obligated to investigate.

So why did DA NIFONG not investigate? Because he did not want to exonerate his suspects. He did not want to prove his suspects were innocent.

Something else you ignore because it does not fit with your presumption of guilt.; June 18, 2014 at 4:35 AM
Anonymous said...: How do you know he was investigating further? He got shut down, remember?; June 18, 2014 at 6:32 AM
Anonymous said...: The question of whether or not Daye was an alcoholic was argued at trial - the family said he wasn't, Crystal said he was. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much (the DTs angle that Sid and Kenny are trying to sell is a major red herring, Kenny pushes it cause he's an idiot, Sid pushes it because he is mad Crystal didn't get LWOP, and he wants to keep hurting her if she gets a retrial).

The Jury heard that there was a fight, heard that Crystal tried to get away, heard that Daye kicked in the door, and drug her out by her hair. Both Crystal and Daye admitted this. The issue is that Daye claims he let Crystal go, and she ran into another room and got a knife and came back at him, like she had with Milton. Crystal claims he was choking her and she grabbed a knife from the floor and stabbed him.

That single issue - believe Daye or Crystal on how the stabbing occurred - was the self-defense issue, and doesn't depend on if Daye was drunk, or sober. The question is do you believe him on that 1 point, or do you believe Crystal on that 1 point.

The Jury believed Daye.

Again, cause of death would NOT have affected guilt or innocence, it would have affected manslaughter, 2nd degree murder, 1st degree murder. She'd still be a convicted felon, even if her stabbing wasn't even a teeny, tiny, proximate cause of his death (and all the experts other than Sid say it was).

The only benefit Crystal has is that if she gets a new trial, the jury can't convict of 1st degree, so Sid, you can't get LWOP, you may as well stop trying.; June 18, 2014 at 8:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 18, 2014 at 6:32 AM

Do you remember. DA NIFONG had the DNA results in Aprl of 2006, before he sought indictments against the innocent Lacrosse players. He had plenty of time to investigate but did not. He did not ask AG Cooper to take over the case until January 2007.; June 18, 2014 at 8:47 AM
Anonymous said...: There is no way to believe him or not since he is dead and his interviews that were submitted as testitimony in the trial were 3rd person heresay as they were not recorded. What is the conflict of that 3rd person heresay testimony to duke, the state, and/or the medical examiner, the prosecutors, agendas, etc?; June 18, 2014 at 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Do you remember that no DNA was necessary to conduct an investigation of assualt in this case?; June 18, 2014 at 8:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 18, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Since the assault Crystal alleged was a brutal gang rape by multiple assailants not wearing condoms who penetrated her and ejaculated on her, DNA evidence WAS necessary to prove this crime.; June 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Do you recall posting a quote from Kim Pittman/Roberts which implied she believed something had happened to Crystal? i do.

It was taken from the Johnsville News blog and the blog post contained a number of quotes from Kim Pittman/Roberts which cast doubt on the occurrence of a crime.

YOU do select evidence which supports your presumptions about the case and dismiss evidence which does not.

You are a hypocrite.; June 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Are you obssessive compulsive about the lacrosse case or just obssessive Dr. A.? Is there a difference between the two?; June 18, 2014 at 9:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 18, 2014 at 9:59 AM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?; June 18, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Anonymous said...: maybe you could look up the definition of propoganda then since the distinction between obssessive and obssessive compulsive is apparently beyond your medical knowledge.; June 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?; June 18, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDErAL:

One more, the issue whether or not Crystal was drunk when she arrived at the Lacrosse paty.

Two Lacrosse captains described her behavior and it was consistent with the behavior of someone who took flexeril and then drank alcohol, which Crystal admitted doing.

But you want people to believe only the statement of Crystal's drier.

Perfect example of how you believe that evidence which does not support your presumption of guilt should be discarded.

You do not refute evidence. You ignore it and then believe you have made a significant point. Not hardly.; June 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Define your terms.; June 18, 2014 at 3:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Why the frack is that case still being argued to begin with, the same issues over and over and over again? Go find Cohen and argue with him about it why don't ya? Geesh, talk about a right to a speedy trial - so many years later and the trial that didn't happen, but apparently needed to, is STILL going on in publishing wars and on various blogs, and obviously in the minds of some. Get real - everyone has their own opinions about the trial that never happened but apparently needed to since it was shoved in everyone's face like it was. Ya gonna argue bout it with everyone ya meet who has an opinion different from yours forever or what? That non-trial is OVER (for now). Crazy making bs obssessive trolling as usual from ya'll for absolutely no reason other than to cause more harm.; June 18, 2014 at 3:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 18, 2014 at 3:21 PM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?; June 18, 2014 at 3:42 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; June 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "But you want people to believe only the statement of Crystal's drier (sic)............. And also Kim Roberts who statement is clear as well as the neighbor. These were the only witnesses who were non-biased; June 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

""But you want people to believe only the statement of Crystal's drier (sic)............. And also Kim Roberts who statement is clear as well as the neighbor. These were the only witnesses who were non-biased"

Another iteration of your attitude that any evidence which does not buy into your presumption of guilt is invalid. It isn't; June 18, 2014 at 4:44 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Judging from what is on Johnsville News, Jason Bissey never observed Crystal up close, always from a distance(http://johnsville.blogspot.com/2006/04/duke-lacrosse-rape-timeline.html); June 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Kim ROberts/Pittman can hardly be considered considered an objective witness considered how she flip flopped as to whether she believed Crystal had been raped.; June 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

I also point out, according to the Johnsvillle News page, according to Kim Pittman/Roberts Crystal had told her she was nervous because she had never done anything like this before, exotic dancing for men. Yet you claim her agency booked her to perform exotic dances for men in their hotel rooms, which makes you somewhat non credible in what you supposedly remember.; June 18, 2014 at 5:02 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm breakin' rocks in the hot sun
I fought the law and the law won
I fought the law and the law won; June 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Let's get the day started, shall we.

You accept as evidence that which only buys into your presumption of guilt, no matter how flimsy that "evidence is, e.g. kilgo's anonymous Lacrosse player friend who supposedly witnessed the non existent rape at the Lacrosse party. Your whole being is permeated with a bias against those you do not like. Nothing you say should be taken seriously, except as seriously biased.; June 19, 2014 at 5:29 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
The question of whether or not Daye was an alcoholic was argued at trial - the family said he wasn't, Crystal said he was. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much (the DTs angle that Sid and Kenny are trying to sell is a major red herring, Kenny pushes it cause he's an idiot, Sid pushes it because he is mad Crystal didn't get LWOP, and he wants to keep hurting her if she gets a retrial).

The Jury heard that there was a fight, heard that Crystal tried to get away, heard that Daye kicked in the door, and drug her out by her hair. Both Crystal and Daye admitted this. The issue is that Daye claims he let Crystal go, and she ran into another room and got a knife and came back at him, like she had with Milton. Crystal claims he was choking her and she grabbed a knife from the floor and stabbed him.

That single issue - believe Daye or Crystal on how the stabbing occurred - was the self-defense issue, and doesn't depend on if Daye was drunk, or sober. The question is do you believe him on that 1 point, or do you believe Crystal on that 1 point.

The Jury believed Daye.

Again, cause of death would NOT have affected guilt or innocence, it would have affected manslaughter, 2nd degree murder, 1st degree murder. She'd still be a convicted felon, even if her stabbing wasn't even a teeny, tiny, proximate cause of his death (and all the experts other than Sid say it was).

The only benefit Crystal has is that if she gets a new trial, the jury can't convict of 1st degree, so Sid, you can't get LWOP, you may as well stop trying.

To suggest that I would want Crystal convicted and sentenced to life without parole makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!! What would possibly be my motive.

Let me clearly express what I want with regards to Crystal Mangum:
1) Freedom from incarceration;
2) The murder conviction overturned; and
3) Restorative justice.

The truth is on the horizon... moving steadily towards its noon-time zenith... and with it will come justice for Crystal Mangum. It's only a matter of time... a very short time.; June 19, 2014 at 8:11 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

I have taken a brief summer break from producing sharlogs in order to better focus on efforts to secure Mangum's freedom and overturn her murder conviction. I am using the sharlogs that I've already produced in my actions towards justice for Mangum. I will probably resume my sharlogs some time in July or August. In the meantime I may still through in a simple blog now and then.

As you were.; June 19, 2014 at 8:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

Can you detail the efforts you have undertaken and are presently undertaking to achieve Mangum's freedom and get her conviction overturned? What progress have you made? When do you expect Mangum to be released?; June 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM
Anonymous said...: To suggest that I would want Crystal convicted and sentenced to life without parole makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!! What would possibly be my motive.

Given that you and Kenny are the only two who don't understand that your efforts have hurt her tremendously to this point (or you know it, but Kenny doesn't) - it makes total sense. Your actions, and intentional harm of Ms. Mangum and her defense are what makes no sense.

Your motive is you like a martyr and like attention - if she was acquitted, or got manslaughter, you would have lost your stage.; June 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"To suggest that I would want Crystal convicted and sentenced to life without parole makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!! What would possibly be my motive."

No one suggested that. That comes from you.

"Let me clearly express what I want with regards to Crystal Mangum:
1) Freedom from incarceration;
2) The murder conviction overturned;"

Translated, you want your favorite murderess given a pass for her crimes and let back out on the street.

"and
3) Restorative justice."

Let's start by having Crystal repair the damage she caused to the three innocent Lacrosse players by falsely accusing them of rape.

"The truth is on the horizon... moving steadily towards its noon-time zenith..."

The ruth is already known, and it is something you have never peddled.

"and with it will come justice for Crystal Mangum."

Crystal got justice when the jury found her guilty for murdering Reginals Daye.

"It's only a matter of time... a very short time."

Says the man who at various times, he would have DA NIFONG's license reinstated, that Crystal would never be convicted, that the state had no case against Crystal, that he would humiliate the State Bar, that he would prevail in his frivolous, non meritorious lawsuit against Duke.

SIDNEY, your ability as a prognosticator is somewhat unimpressive, to say the least.; June 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!"

Hey everybody, pay attention to me.

"I have taken a brief summer break from producing sharlogs in order to better focus on efforts to secure Mangum's freedom and overturn her murder conviction. I am using the sharlogs that I've already produced in my actions towards justice for Mangum. I will probably resume my sharlogs some time in July or August. In the meantime I may still through in a simple blog now and then."

Which means Crystal's appeal stands less of a chance of a snowball in hell.; June 19, 2014 at 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: In the meantime I may still through in a simple blog now and then.

Clearly I'm not as smart as the perfect Dr. Sid - but what is "through in a simple blog"? I've heard of throw in ... but this is new to me.

And, since you have always refused to admit when you are wrong (see: Daye's prior record, and other areas you are wrong) - this is clearly not a mistake.; June 19, 2014 at 1:48 PM
A Lawyer said...: A federal appeals court today decided that evidence that the victim died as a result of medical negligence is irrelevant in a murder case:

http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/06/19/08-50479.pdf; June 19, 2014 at 4:25 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; June 19, 2014 at 8:21 PM
kenhyderal said...: Read page 27 People v Roberts.; June 19, 2014 at 8:21 PM
Anonymous said...: The law about liability of medical negligence will surely end up being judged case by case, since like in this case, Duke Inc. obviously has a vendetta against Ms. Mangum which leaves all citizens vulnerable to Duke Inc.'s negligent malpractice due to malicious criminal intent beyond a level which any would consider reasonable or a right for Duke to weild maliciously and to the detriment of life or limb of any, regardless of lacrosse rape cases or not. That is a threat beyond reason for ALL.; June 20, 2014 at 12:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Essentially, if that finding of law is interpreted to this current case, the Duke / Durham court system is officially no longer a system that is free from bias and conflict of interest to Duke.; June 20, 2014 at 12:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 20, 2014 at 12:06 AM and June 20, 2014 at 12:10 AM.

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?; June 20, 2014 at 3:58 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

If you are referring to the followint:

http://www.4lawschool.com/criminal/roberts.htm,

it is not applicable to the murder of Reginald Daye by Crystal Mangum.; June 20, 2014 at 4:48 AM
Anonymous said...: This coming from the mind of a troll who declares on this blog all sorts of things harmful to Ms. Mangum, including that you hope she dies in jail, etc. ...

yeah, right

If Mr. Daye had not attacked Ms. Mangum after drinking so much she would have had no need to defend herself against his assualt on her - so seriously - your bias is overwhelming and obvious.; June 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM
Anonymous said...: If Mr. Daye had not attacked Ms. Mangum after drinking so much she would have had no need to defend herself against his assualt on her - so seriously - your bias is overwhelming and obvious.

If she had left when he let her go instead of running into the kitchen to get a knife (like she did with Milton), he wouldn't have been stabbed and died.

Your detachment from reality is overwhelming and obvious.

Quack Quack Blah Blah; June 20, 2014 at 5:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM

"This coming from the mind of a troll who declares on this blog all sorts of things harmful to Ms. Mangum, including that you hope she dies in jail, etc. ...

yeah, right"

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?

"If Mr. Daye had not attacked Ms. Mangum after drinking so much she would have had no need to defend herself against his assualt on her"

Except Reginald Daye was not in a drunken rage and Crystal attacked him with deadly force.

"- so seriously - your bias is overwhelming and obvious."

No it ishn't but yours and the willfully stupid basis for it is.; June 20, 2014 at 8:54 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid:

Can you detail the efforts you have undertaken and are presently undertaking to achieve Mangum's freedom and get her conviction overturned? What progress have you made? When do you expect Mangum to be released?

I could detail my efforts, but don't want to at the moment lest they be targeted for sabotage. Needless to say, I have contacted individuals in person, dropped off letters, and mailed letters certified. Subsequent to that, I have followed up on such actions... and am in the process of following up on other actions.

I believe I am on the verge of a breakthrough, and am hoping that I can get Mangum freedom no later than the end of July. Once she is freed, I believe the murder conviction will be overturned in short order.; June 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I could detail my efforts, but don't want to at the moment lest they be targeted for sabotage. Needless to say, I have contacted individuals in person, dropped off letters, and mailed letters certified. Subsequent to that, I have followed up on such actions... and am in the process of following up on other actions."

Why would anyone want to sabotage you? You do such an effective job of sabotaging yourself.

"I believe I am on the verge of a breakthrough, and am hoping that I can get Mangum freedom no later than the end of July. Once she is freed, I believe the murder conviction will be overturned in short order."

This from the man who has said: my J4N committee will get DA NIFONG's law license reinstated; I will prevail in my lawsuit against Duke; I will humiliate the State Bar when it tries tosanction me for practicing law without a license; Crystal will never go to trial; the state will dismiss the charges and reease Crystal, mark my words.

You have a track record of making empty promises.; June 20, 2014 at 10:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...
Sid:

Can you detail the efforts you have undertaken and are presently undertaking to achieve Mangum's freedom and get her conviction overturned? What progress have you made? When do you expect Mangum to be released?

I could detail my efforts, but don't want to at the moment lest they be targeted for sabotage. Needless to say, I have contacted individuals in person, dropped off letters, and mailed letters certified. Subsequent to that, I have followed up on such actions... and am in the process of following up on other actions.

I believe I am on the verge of a breakthrough, and am hoping that I can get Mangum freedom no later than the end of July. Once she is freed, I believe the murder conviction will be overturned in short order.

Hopefully none of them are judicial officials (where there is already an appeal pending, and Crystal is represented), or you are again practicing law without a license, and damaging Crystal.

But, since your every move is calculated to hurt Crystal (even though you deny it), I am sure you are harassing judicial officials as well.; June 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Barring an executive pardon/clemency (the chance of which I would place at 0%) or a successful appeal (slighlty better than a 0% chance, but still a long shot), Mangum will stay where she is.

Even if Mangum's appeal is successful and the conviction is overturned, it won't happen before the end of July and she will be re-charged and remanded on very high bail.

There is a chance that Sid truly believes his letters will somehow get Mangum released by the end of next month, but it is not going to happen.; June 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

We already know what your case for Crystal is:

Crystal is the accuser/victim in the Duke Lacrosse case(she was the victimizer/false accuser);

There is a vendetta against Crystal(for which you have provided no factual evidence);

The autopsy report was fraudulent(something which you do not have the credentials to detrmine);

The purpose of the murder trial was to protect Duke from malpractice(there was no malpractice).

It all has failed before. It will fail again/; June 20, 2014 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYERAL:

Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Muhammad

You will deny this person ever existed or that he ever made his speech because some academicians say black on white racism does not exist.; June 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Does anybody know how repulsive prostitute,car thief,and murderer Crystal Mangum is doing in prison? Not good I hope.; June 20, 2014 at 3:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Please let us know when you can if you will, (like after she is released and charges dropped perhaps), what letters are sent and which are answered and how, and who or what agency assists or does not in resolving this case justly for Ms. Mangum and Mr. Daye and their families, and for 'the people', including those affiliated to Duke and in Durham. Thank you for your efforts to assist in this matter.

If Mr. Daye's agitation is the ultimate cause of his own demise, than to charge Ms. Mangum with murder for a self-defensive non-lethal wound when she was confronted in a violent manner with his agitation, yet continue to ignore and deny wrongdoing of Duke killing him with medical malpractice when dealing with mere signs of agitation they are confronted with is a very dangerous and threatening situation and precedent for anyone and everyone. It is outrageous that Duke has less ability to deal with agitation without killing the agitated than a typical citizen without the professional training and expertise that Duke professes to the world. They should be held to a higher degree of accountability and responsibility in all regards where they claim professional merit and expertise, especially in areas where the lives of so many are affected by their policy making, training, and example.

Your attempts to enlighten in these regards is appreciated.; June 20, 2014 at 4:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous June 20, 2014 at 4:18 PM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?; June 20, 2014 at 4:37 PM
The Great Kilgo said...: Pull up a chair, it's time for Ubes to lapse into his notorious Crank mode !

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK

SPIN UBES SPIN; June 21, 2014 at 9:19 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Matthew Murchison, with whom she had sex shortly before the party."...... Wrong, it was one week prior. She had consensual sex with Jariel Johnson March 10th.; June 21, 2014 at 9:52 AM
Anonymous said...: He squirms like a worm
He quacks like a duck
Silly Chicken Killy
Knows he's f---ed.

"nuff said.; June 21, 2014 at 10:09 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous said: "Matthew Murchison, with whom she had sex shortly before the party."...... Wrong, it was one week prior. She had consensual sex with Jariel Johnson March 10th."

So explain how DNA security testing of the rape kit can turn up Matthew Murchison as a sperm donor(from a week earlier) but no one else(i.e. the anonymous unknown rapists you presume raped Crystal).; June 21, 2014 at 10:12 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

from the link I gave you:

"In its report of May 12, 2006, DNA Security only reported asalysis of 1 of 22 rape kit extractions: Item 15775, the sperm fraction from the vaginal swab which was reported to belong to Matthew Murchison.

Can you point out in DNA Security report where sperm fraction from any other male was identified.

Also, this from ABC NEWS:

"It is also unclear whether the alleged victim had sex with the 'boyfriend' the night she claims to have been raped by three Duke lacrosse players. DNA experts tell ABC News that genetic traces of semen can remain in the body up to six days after intercouse."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1958031&

How does that establish that male DNA was deposited on Crystal the night of 13/14 March 2006.; June 21, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I could detail my efforts, but don't want to at the moment lest they be targeted for sabotage. Needless to say, I have contacted individuals in person, dropped off letters, and mailed letters certified. Subsequent to that, I have followed up on such actions... and am in the process of following up on other actions."

Why would anyone want to sabotage you? You do such an effective job of sabotaging yourself.

"I believe I am on the verge of a breakthrough, and am hoping that I can get Mangum freedom no later than the end of July. Once she is freed, I believe the murder conviction will be overturned in short order."

This from the man who has said: my J4N committee will get DA NIFONG's law license reinstated; I will prevail in my lawsuit against Duke; I will humiliate the State Bar when it tries tosanction me for practicing law without a license; Crystal will never go to trial; the state will dismiss the charges and reease Crystal, mark my words.

You have a track record of making empty promises.

I will admit that a few of my prognostication missed their mark, but many you listed have yet to run their full course. Just be patient.; June 21, 2014 at 1:08 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Barring an executive pardon/clemency (the chance of which I would place at 0%) or a successful appeal (slighlty better than a 0% chance, but still a long shot), Mangum will stay where she is.

Even if Mangum's appeal is successful and the conviction is overturned, it won't happen before the end of July and she will be re-charged and remanded on very high bail.

There is a chance that Sid truly believes his letters will somehow get Mangum released by the end of next month, but it is not going to happen.

O, Ye of little faith. Hold on to your horses. Soon you will begin to see the light of truth shine on the ol' Tar Heel state!; June 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Please let us know when you can if you will, (like after she is released and charges dropped perhaps), what letters are sent and which are answered and how, and who or what agency assists or does not in resolving this case justly for Ms. Mangum and Mr. Daye and their families, and for 'the people', including those affiliated to Duke and in Durham. Thank you for your efforts to assist in this matter.

If Mr. Daye's agitation is the ultimate cause of his own demise, than to charge Ms. Mangum with murder for a self-defensive non-lethal wound when she was confronted in a violent manner with his agitation, yet continue to ignore and deny wrongdoing of Duke killing him with medical malpractice when dealing with mere signs of agitation they are confronted with is a very dangerous and threatening situation and precedent for anyone and everyone. It is outrageous that Duke has less ability to deal with agitation without killing the agitated than a typical citizen without the professional training and expertise that Duke professes to the world. They should be held to a higher degree of accountability and responsibility in all regards where they claim professional merit and expertise, especially in areas where the lives of so many are affected by their policy making, training, and example.

Your attempts to enlighten in these regards is appreciated.

Thank you for your comments. I believe that those who I have written will make themselves known by publicly coming forward in support of Mangum's release and the overturning of her conviction. There are many others, however, who I have contacted who will remain idle and silent. Depending on how things go, I may or may not release all of the people contacted and e-mails and correspondence, because in the long run they may find their inaction to be an embarrassment. I try to keep from causing anyone distress, but if my entreaties go unanswered I will more likely revert to putting the correspondence online.; June 21, 2014 at 1:19 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I will admit that a few of my prognostication missed their mark, but many you listed have yet to run their full course. Just be patient."

ALL your prognostications have missed the mark.; June 21, 2014 at 1:19 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Anonymous June 20, 2014 at 4:18 PM

No one believes the propaganda you spout because you are incredibly and irredeemably stupid.

Now go ahead and again threaten to call me a hate criminal.

Don't you hate it when someone points out how stupid and impotent you are?

I would never call you a hate criminal. You are merely ignorant of the truth and unenlightened.; June 21, 2014 at 1:20 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"O, Ye of little faith. Hold on to your horses. Soon you will begin to see the light of truth shine on the ol' Tar Heel state!"

It already has. Once when the AG's investigation, much to your chagrin, found that the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players were innocent.

Once when Shan Carter was found guilty of two counts of felony murder.

Once when Crystal was found guilty of the murder of Reginald Daye.

Once when corrupt DA NIFONG was found guilty of the multiple ethics violations he committed and was disbarred.; June 21, 2014 at 1:22 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"
Thank you for your comments. I believe that those who I have written will make themselves known by publicly coming forward in support of Mangum's release and the overturning of her conviction. There are many others, however, who I have contacted who will remain idle and silent. Depending on how things go, I may or may not release all of the people contacted and e-mails and correspondence, because in the long run they may find their inaction to be an embarrassment. I try to keep from causing anyone distress, but if my entreaties go unanswered I will more likely revert to putting the correspondence online."

I hope you do. It will give us all yet another chance to laugh once again at your impotence and your deluded megalomania.; June 21, 2014 at 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I would never call you a hate criminal. You are merely ignorant of the truth and unenlightened."

You are so willfully ignorant of and s deliberately blind to the truth that no one cares what you think.

OOPS! I presumed a fact not in evidence, that you can think.; June 21, 2014 at 1:52 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I would never call you a hate criminal. You are merely ignorant of the truth and unenlightened."

It seems you do admit to making anonymous posts to your blog to create the impression that you have support for your delusions.; June 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Are you not going to address the glaring inconsistencies in your Crystal was raped by mystery rapists hypothesis?; June 21, 2014 at 2:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Well, KENHYDERAL:

You can relax. I did your work for you. There was sperm fraction DNA from Crystal's underclothing found bty DNA Security.

Your problem is to establish that those samples were put there on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

Kilgo's alleged claim that some anonymous Lacrosse player reported that Crystal was raped by a number of non Lax player attendees establishes nothing. Has Kilgo ever come forth to corroborate this claim. No.; June 21, 2014 at 3:06 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Your problem is to establish that those samples were put there on the night of 13/14 March 2006"....... Yes, DNA deposition cannot be timed but, identifying the DNA and tying back to the Duke Lacrosse party attendees could have shown, indirectly, when and where they were deposited. All those who had that opportunity have not been identified. Crystal has provided a complete consensual sexual history that identified two people both of whose DNA was found. The finding of other DNA can only mean two things; the consensual history was incomplete or the DNA came from a non-consensual assault. Solving what you call as my problem could have been done by a complete and comprehensive investigation. The evidence, be it inculpatory or exculpatory, was there for the finding; June 21, 2014 at 4:39 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous said: "Your problem is to establish that those samples were put there on the night of 13/14 March 2006"....... Yes, DNA deposition cannot be timed but, identifying the DNA and tying back to the Duke Lacrosse party attendees could have shown, indirectly, when and where they were deposited. All those who had that opportunity have not been identified. Crystal has provided a complete consensual sexual history that identified two people both of whose DNA was found. The finding of other DNA can only mean two things; the consensual history was incomplete or the DNA came from a non-consensual assault. Solving what you call as my problem could have been done by a complete and comprehensive investigation. The evidence, be it inculpatory or exculpatory, was there for the finding"

No, the evidence was found. It was not pursued because corrupt DA NIFONG whom you seem to admire tried to suppress the evidence. The only reason the evidence came to light was that the defense attorneys brought it to light. Did DA NIFONG act on it then? No.

Meanwhile, you presume a rape happened but have failed to provide factual credible evidence that it did.; June 21, 2014 at 5:20 PM
The Great Kilgo said...: Ubes is putting on quite a show today for his liestopper crank buddies.

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK

SPIN UBES SPIN

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; June 21, 2014 at 6:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"O, Ye of little faith. Hold on to your horses. Soon you will begin to see the light of truth shine on the ol' Tar Heel state!"

Sid, you are about to get smacked in the face with the frying pan of reality yet again. Don't say I didn't warn you.; June 21, 2014 at 7:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"I will admit that a few of my prognostication missed their mark, but many you listed have yet to run their full course. Just be patient."

A few? You are being too kind to yourself. Your next accurate prediction will be your first.; June 21, 2014 at 7:14 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"The finding of other DNA can only mean two things; the consensual history was incomplete or the DNA came from a non-consensual assault."

There was no evidence of a non consensual assault. Ergo, Crystal did not give a complete consensual history.; June 22, 2014 at 5:16 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDEerAL:

This is your dilemma.

The sperm fraction DNA in Crystal's genital tract came from her boyfriend. It was deposited there a week early.

If Crystal had been penetrated by multiple males not wearing condoms who ejaculated inside her, there would have been sperm fraction DNA in her genital tract from people other than Crystal's boyfriend.

The other sperm fraction DNA was found on her underwear, not in her genital tract.

It adds up to, Crystal lied about being raped at the Lacrosse party.; June 22, 2014 at 5:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Silly Chicken Killy:

Here's to the appropriately named liestoppers.; June 22, 2014 at 5:24 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Mike Nifong quoted in a CBS News report:

"...it was the D.A., the district attorney (Durham County D.A. Mike Nifong) who came out swinging on this thing and said, 'She was raped. We believe her, and when the DNA tests are back, you're going see that we have a good case.'"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/expert-dna-tests-doom-duke-rape-case/

DA NIFONG is solely responsible for not finding the men who deposited DNA on Crystal. He knew there had been no rape, but he wanted to convict members of the Lacrsse team.; June 23, 2014 at 4:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said "To date, all that has taken place is that the Magistrate made a recommendation to the District Court Judge, but that judge has yet to rule, so filing an appeal at this stage is premature."

You might want to look up the legal definition of "memorandum opinion"; June 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM
A Lawyer said...: Sid said "To date, all that has taken place is that the Magistrate made a recommendation to the District Court Judge, but that judge has yet to rule, so filing an appeal at this stage is premature."

You might want to look up the legal definition of "memorandum opinion"

Dr. Harr is right, for a change. The opinion of the Magistrate Judge is not appealable to the 4th Circuit. If Dr. Harr timely filed objections to the Magistrate's Report, the District Judge will review them. It is, of course, quite certain that the District Judge will agree with the Magistrate that Dr. Harr's lawsuit must be dismissed. It is, however, possible that the judge will impose different sanctions on Dr. Harr.

Once the District Judge rules, there will be a judgment that can be appealed to the 4th Circuit, which will certainly affirm.; June 23, 2014 at 10:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Wow, this is amazing.....I have not read or posted on this site in about six weeks. Today, I opened the site...and jesus on a pony....it's the same bullshit. Lord, bro, talk about BOR-ING.; June 23, 2014 at 12:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

Unfortunately you are unable to prove the esophageal tubation was malpractice. You are either unable or unwilling to tesitfy to that in court and, in spite of havg over two years to do so, you have yet to produce a single expert or report to support your conclusion. Considering the weight you give to this, one can only assume that you have looked far and wide and can find no evidence to support your conclusion.

Moreover, even if the intubation was malpractice all that means is that Daye's estate has a claim against DUMC. As has been explained, it is not a defense to the murder charge against Mangum. That's the law.

The steamroller of justice flattens all who stand in her way.; June 23, 2014 at 12:17 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid:

Unfortunately you are unable to prove the esophageal tubation was malpractice. You are either unable or unwilling to tesitfy to that in court and, in spite of havg over two years to do so, you have yet to produce a single expert or report to support your conclusion. Considering the weight you give to this, one can only assume that you have looked far and wide and can find no evidence to support your conclusion.

Moreover, even if the intubation was malpractice all that means is that Daye's estate has a claim against DUMC. As has been explained, it is not a defense to the murder charge against Mangum. That's the law.

The steamroller of justice flattens all who stand in her way.

If you'd carefully read Dr. Christena L. Roberts' report, you'll see that she admitted that the initial intubation of Daye was esophageal. End of story.

If intubating the esophagus and allowing it to remain in place until the patient is brain dead is not malpractice, then I don't know what is.; June 23, 2014 at 2:12 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Wow, this is amazing.....I have not read or posted on this site in about six weeks. Today, I opened the site...and jesus on a pony....it's the same bullshit. Lord, bro, talk about BOR-ING.

To those with short attention spans, take heart. A computer glitch has interfered with my ability to produce sharlogs. It is only temporary. By the beginning or mid July I should have more sharlogs that will focus on other cases of injustice in North Carolina... cases about which the mainstream media doesn't want the people to know.; June 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...: "If you'd carefully read Dr. Christena L. Roberts' report, you'll see that she admitted that the initial intubation of Daye was esophageal. End of story."

But it doesn't make a difference. She still concluded that the stab wound inflicted by Mangum was the proximate cause of Mr. Daye's death. Esophageal intubation or no esophageal intubation; malpractice or not, Mangum is still guilty. No amount of misdirection can change that.

Maybe a few more bops to the top of your skull with the mallet of truth will set you straight.; June 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"If you'd carefully read Dr. Christena L. Roberts' report, you'll see that she admitted that the initial intubation of Daye was esophageal. End of story.

If intubating the esophagus and allowing it to remain in place until the patient is brain dead is not malpractice, then I don't know what is."

The end of the story is, what happened to Reginald Daye, although a disastrous complication, did not rise to the level of malpractice.

With your dearth of training and your dearth of experience, in spite of the MD inappropriately appended to your name, you DO NOT know what malpractice is.; June 23, 2014 at 3:08 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"To those with short attention spans, take heart. A computer glitch has interfered with my ability to produce sharlogs. It is only temporary. By the beginning or mid July I should have more sharlogs that will focus on other cases of injustice in North Carolina... cases about which the mainstream media doesn't want the people to know."

Just like you are incapable of knowing what malpractice is, you are incapable of knowing what injustice is. You consider the conviction beyond a reasonable doubt that they were guilty of murder, you believe Shan Carter and Crystal Mangum are unjustly incarcerated.

Res ipsa loquitur.; June 23, 2014 at 3:11 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " As has been explained, it is not a defense to the murder charge against Mangum"............ That would only be true if the esophageal intubation, that ended up killing Daye, was a procedure necessitated by treatment of a complication to his stab wound. This is a matter in dispute and speculation about a possible or even probable peritonitis just doesn't cut it in a matter this critical. You've got to put witnesses under oath and subject them to cross-examination in order to get at the undisputed truth. Not a single treating individual was ever questioned. Everyone concedes that the autopsy contains discrepancies. Dr. Nicholls has ben fired for previous sloppy work. The Crystal haters suggest that Daye's blood alcohol reading is a lab error. The technicians who reported this reading were never consulted. The respiratory technician, Becker whose endo-tracheal tube was wrongly placed was never questioned. The surgeons who did the repair, they considered successful, were never questioned. No prophylactic IV broad spectrum antibiotic therapy for a possible intra-abdominal infection was initiated. If Daye died from the treatment of alcohol withdrawal the murder charge is bogus and her conviction for murder needs to be overturned. As in the Duke Lacrosse case the ones who fear a full and comprehensive investigation are those who have a vested interest in payback; June 23, 2014 at 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Anonymous said: " As has been explained, it is not a defense to the murder charge against Mangum"............ That would only be true if the esophageal intubation, that ended up killing Daye, was a procedure necessitated by treatment of a complication to his stab wound."

It was. Your lack of knowledge about matters medical and SIDNEY's lack of training and experience do not raise any doubt about that.

"This is a matter in dispute and speculation about a possible or even probable peritonitis just doesn't cut it in a matter this critical."

You are not competent or capable of determining what does or not cut it in a matter this critical.

"You've got to put witnesses under oath and subject them to cross-examination in order to get at the undisputed truth. Not a single treating individual was ever questioned."

That would have been relevant in a malpractice case. Not in the matter of whether or not Crystal murdered Reginald Daye. If the witnesses had been put on the stand, you and SIDNEY would have accused them of being coopted by the non existent vendetta against Crystal. Their testimony would not have bought into your wish that Crystal get a pass for her crimes.

"Everyone concedes that the autopsy contains discrepancies."

You and SIDNEY do. No one of with any real knowledge of matters medical concedes that the alleged discrepancies were indicative of malpractice.

"Dr. Nicholls has ben(sic) fired for previous sloppy work."

No he wasn't. It was an administrative matter.

"The Crystal haters suggest that Daye's blood alcohol reading is a lab error."

I provide reasons why I believe the blood alcohol was a lab error. Those are valid reasons. You reject them because they do not buy into your wish that your favorite murderess get a pass for her crimes, like she got for her previous crimes.

"The technicians who reported this reading were never consulted. The respiratory technician, Becker whose endo-tracheal tube was wrongly placed was never questioned. The surgeons who did the repair, they considered successful, were never questioned. No prophylactic IV broad spectrum antibiotic therapy for a possible intra-abdominal infection was initiated."

I question your allegation that no prophylactic antibiotics were given. It is standard procedure to give prophylactic antibiotics for a case like this. Did you ever directly review the anesthesia record or the Doctors' orders. If you did not, you are speculating.

"If Daye died from the treatment of alcohol withdrawal the murder charge is bogus and her conviction for murder needs to be overturned."

Except Daye did not die of alcohol withdrawl. He was being worked up for an abdominal infection, which was indicated, and aspirated as part of the evaluation. The evaluation would never have been necessary had Crystal not stabbed him.

"As in the Duke Lacrosse case the ones who fear a full and comprehensive investigation are those who have a vested interest in payback".

In the Duke Lacrosse case, the defense was not the people who feared a full and comprehensive investigation. The Lacrosse players and their counsel knew they were innocent. The only person who did not want a full and comprehensive investigation was DA NIFONG. That would have proven that no rape had occurred. No rape meant DA NIFONG could not use the allegations to stir up black on white racism and get him elected.

Kenny whiffs three times in one inning. What else is new.; June 24, 2014 at 3:54 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Who concealed the fact that non Lax player DNA on Crystal's person?

Who revealed to the public that DA NIFONG and Brian Meehan conspired to conceal that fact?; June 24, 2014 at 4:02 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Rephrase:

When the innocent falsely accused Lacrosse players were indicted, who had the knowledge that the DNA of multiple unidentified men, none of them Lacrosse players, had been found on Crystal's persong?

Here's a hint. It was not the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players or their counsel.

Here's another hint. He supposedly convinced William Cohan that something happened at the Lacrosse party.

Yet a third hint. Before there was any evidence in the case, he publicly claimed that a crime had happened, that members of the Lacrosse team were the perpetrators and that it was a racially motivated crime.; June 24, 2014 at 4:32 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

In your seemingly willful ignorance as to why the men who were the sources of the non Lax player DNA found on Crystal's person were never identified, you show that YOU are someone who fears a full and comprehensive investigation as to what happened to Crystal. It does not buy into your racially motivated presumption of guilt on the part of innocent Caucasian men.; June 24, 2014 at 4:37 AM
kenhyderal said...: You are wrong. Crystal has nothing to fear from having all the facts known because the truth will support her allegation and refute the lies being spread about her, both in the Duke Lacrosse case and the Reginald Daye case; June 24, 2014 at 9:29 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"You are wrong. Crystal has nothing to fear from having all the facts known because the truth will support her allegation and refute the lies being spread about her, both in the Duke Lacrosse case and the Reginald Daye case".

Two problems here:

1) The facts are known.

2) The facts support that she was not raped and that she murdered Reginald Daye.

What you call facts are your fantasies, which are a product of your attitude that Crystal should have been given a pass for murdering Reginald Day, just like she got passes for her earlier crimes(stealing a cab, trying to run down an officer, filing a false police report, committing arson in Milton Walker's apartment).

Whatever facts there are, you are trying to suppress for Crystal's benefit.; June 24, 2014 at 9:40 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

I should point out I said YOU, not Crystal, fear a complete comprehensive investigation into what happened to Crystal.

I say this because facts are known which beyond any reasonable doubt that Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party. You are trying to purvey as facts things for which you can provide no credible factual evidence.

Ergo, I say again, you are the one who fears the facts about Crystal.

And I ask again, what do you find so onerous about the fact that Crystal was not raped?; June 24, 2014 at 10:07 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Your thinking on the rape case is disordered. You contend that there were unknown men at the party who raped Crystal Mangum, and that a shoddy police investigation failed to identify those men>

So answer the questions.

Who conducted the police investigation?

Who had custody of the evidence of Crystal's sexual encounters with other men?

Who concealed that evidence?

Who brought that evidence out of concealment and into the light?

The answer to the first two questions is CORRUPT DA MIKE NIFONG.

The answer to the third was the Lacrosse defendants' lawyers. If not for them, you would have no mystery rapist hypothesis to argue.

What that suggests is, again, corrupt DA NIFONG knew there had been no rape but wanted to prosecute and convict members of the Lacrosse team anyway.

Ergo, in spite of your calling yourself an advocate for justice, you advocate for injustice.

I ask again, why is it so important to you to believe Crystal had been gang raped?; June 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny's thinking on the rape hoax is not disordered. It is dishonest. He is simply a liar. If facts do not exist to support his position, he will make up facts that do. If there exist facts and evidence in opposition to his position, he will lie about them.

Kenny lies. He is not to be trusted about anything.

Never debate with a liar about his lies. It lends legitimacy to their lies. Whether it be Kenny or any other liar, the best approach is to simply point out and expose the lies.; June 24, 2014 at 11:09 AM
kenhyderal said...: Care to put your name to that accusation?; June 24, 2014 at 4:56 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A said: " The facts are known"....... So whose DNA was found? Which persons were at the Party. Which persons claim in statements to the Police that Crystal "arrived" in an intoxicated condition?; June 24, 2014 at 5:00 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. A said: " The facts are known"....... So whose DNA was found? Which persons were at the Party. Which persons claim in statements to the Police that Crystal "arrived" in an intoxicated condition?"

You know the answers to those questions. You reject them because they do not buy into your presumption of guilt. Your guilt presuming hypotheses do not change the facts.

And you are ducking the questions.

Who knew about the DNA found on Crystal at the time the innocent Lacrosse players were indicted?

How did it become public that non Lax player DNA was found on Crystal?; June 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Where is the credible factual evidence that there were unidentified party attendees?

You have quoted Kilgo. Kilgo is not a credible witness to anything that happened at the Lacrosse party. His claim of an anonymous Lacrosse player friend was supposedly made years after March 13/14 2006. You can provide any corroboration that Kilgo ever made that claim, which suggests strongly you fabricated the claim.

Which in turn suggests you want to substitute uncorroborated allegations for facts.; June 24, 2014 at 5:45 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A. said: "You know the answers to those questions".... I'm ducking nothing. I want names.; June 24, 2014 at 8:54 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr.A. said: "Where is the credible factual evidence that there were unidentified party attendees"........ Where is there credible factual evidence that there was not.; June 24, 2014 at 9:01 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"I'm ducking nothing."

You are ducking. You duck any and all evidence which does not buy into your presumption of guilt.

"I want names."

If you demand the answers to who had the evidence of the non lax DNA on Crystal and who made the evidence pubic, you are ducking. The answers are on the internet. You will find them if you google Duke rape Case or DNA evidence in the Duke Rape Case.; June 25, 2014 at 3:40 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr.A. said: "Where is the credible factual evidence that there were unidentified party attendees"........ Where is there credible factual evidence that there was not."

YOU are asserting that there were unidentified party attendees. It is incumbent upon YOU to back up that assertion with credible factual evidence. YOU have just admitted you can not.; June 25, 2014 at 3:43 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Since you try to duck the evidence, check this out:

From: http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2006/12/11/gathering-storm

"Other developments have been frightening, especially Dr. Brian Meehan's Dec. 15 admission that he conspired with District Attorney Mike Nifong to conceal exculpatory DNA evidence from the defense".

DNA Security provided DA NIFONG with the finding of non Lax player DNA in April of 2006. That evidence came out in a hearing in which Defense Counsel Brad Bannon cross examined Brian Meehan and got him to admit that he and Nifong conspired to conceal that result. That was in December of 2006.; June 25, 2014 at 4:12 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Now I ask again.

1) At the time the innocent Lacrosse players were indicted, who knew of the non Lax DNA found on Crystal?

2) Who revealed to the public that DNA found on Crystal did not match any member of the Lacrosse team.

FInally, since you have asserted that there were unidentified party attendees at the Lacrosse party, YOU provide factual credible evidence that there indeed were.; June 25, 2014 at 4:24 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

You have said that DA NIFONG thought Reade Seligman's alibi was contrived.

Something contrived is something like your claim that there were unidentified party attendees who raped Crystal Mangum.

You have provided no factual, credible evidence of this. In a recent comment, even though you did not realize it, you admitted you could not provide credible factual evidence.; June 25, 2014 at 5:51 AM
Lance The Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "... Where is there credible factual evidence that there was not.

Kenhyderal -- You realize there's at least 1 logical fallacy here, right?; June 25, 2014 at 6:22 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

When the Lacrosse case started, both the Prosecution and Defense agreed that every party attendee had been identified.

You came back with, the only non Lacrosse players had been identified were two who were photographed.

Then you claimed Kilgo told you he had a friend, an anonymous Lacrosse player who told him that he had witnessed a sexual assault at the party perpetrated by non Lacrosse player attendees.

You can not document that Kilgo ever told you any such thing. Kilgo has recently left posts on this blog but has not corroborated your story.

Ergo, you did assert that there had been unidentified party attendees who raped Crystal. What you did not do, what you have never done is provide factual, credible evidence to support your allegation.

I say again, your claim that no one can provide evidence there were not is meaningless, since you have the obligation to prove. The fact that you say that shows you have no factual credible evidence to offer.; June 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM
kenhyderal said...: At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can. At least by sworn deposition. Then the charges need to be re- laid against the actual persons who committed specific crimes. The statute of limitations has run out on some, but not all, of these crimes. Nevertheless, deceits need to be exposed and reputations restored. I don't ascribe to William Cohan's assertion that we will never know. There are people who do know and, in the long run, the truth has a way of coming out. Kilgo has most likely been silenced. The person who now posts as Kilgo is an imposter. Probably one who has posted here under Anonymous for years. My question to him/her is what is your motive for clouding the issue by engaging in deceit and mischief.; June 25, 2014 at 9:54 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can. At least by sworn deposition. Then the charges need to be re- laid against the actual persons who committed specific crimes."

You obfuscate again, trying to dodge the issue that the evidence compiled in the case showed no crime bad happened.

"The statute of limitations has run out on some, but not all, of these crimes. Nevertheless, deceits need to be exposed and reputations restored."

The only deceit in the Duke phoney rape case was the deceit which corrupt DA NIFONG tried to perpetrate, that Crystal was raped.

I don't ascribe to William Cohan's assertion that we will never know."

Neither do I, because we know nothing happened in there.

"There are people who do know and,"

Yes there are, the people who know nothing happened in there".

"in the long run, the truth has a way of coming out."

More than eight years have passed since Crystal falsely accused Lacrosse players of raping her. That has been a pretty long run. No credible, factual evidence has emerged that Crystal was raped.

"Kilgo has most likely been silenced."

Unlikely since no one would go to any great trouble to silence a witness who has demonstrated over and over again he is not credible, except to guilt presuming racist KENHYDERAL.

"The person who now posts as Kilgo is an imposter."

Unlikely.

"Probably one who has posted here under Anonymous for years. My question to him/her is what is your motive for clouding the issue by engaging in deceit and mischief."

What you call mischief and deceit is Kilgo's failure to back up the claim that he told you he had a Lacrosse player friend who witnessed a sexual assault on Crystl at the party, perpetrated by non Lax player attendees.

You have wasted a lot of bandwidth admitting you have no credible factual evidence of any anonymous party attendees/rapists.; June 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Here is a definition of contrived from the web:

"deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously.

created or arranged in a way that seems artificial and unrealistic."

Reade Seligman can document via hard evidence that he was not at the party house when the alleged crime allegedly happened. You and DA NIFONG and willie cohan all describe his alibi as contrived.

But your mystrery unidentified rapist hypothesis, you have just admitted, you can not backup with evidence.

Do you even know what contrived means?

Well, I have tried to enlighten you.; June 25, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Lance The Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: Kenhyderal -- Where can we find these sworn depositions?; June 26, 2014 at 7:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Absent a lawsuit, or criminal charges, why would there be sworn depositions? No one cares enough about the case except the few loons here who think it is the be-all/end-all to want to talk about it.; June 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "At present I can not prove it but there are people, innocent people, eye witnesses, who can." No, there are not. Everyone present at the party has been identified and interviewed. The evidence overwhelming shows that Crystal lied about what happened. In fact, no rape took place on the night of March 13-14, 2006.

"At least by sworn deposition. Then the charges need to be re- laid against the actual persons who committed specific crimes. The statute of limitations has run out on some, but not all, of these crimes."

What would those be? Be careful, this is a trap question for the uninformed.

Walt-in-Durham; September 15, 2014 at 12:18 PM

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