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Harr's Grievance against D.A. Lorrin Freeman filed with the NC State Bar

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Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Sidney:

When will you next emerge from the hole in which you hide and tell us again how much mothing you are doing?

As you can see, I've filed a Grievance with the State Bar against D.A. Lorrin Freeman. Additionally, I have sent many letters and disks to various individuals and media... including CBS anchor Scott Pelley. I have not received any replies from anyone or any entity, and have not heard anything from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

Work on the sharlogs and a lot of other activities has been interrupted by recent unplanned travels... a week ago today I was in Texas when my oldest sister passed away after a long battle with cancer.

So, now I am getting back up to speed and will be working on several new projects before the year is over. Trying to beat Abe's deadline!; December 3, 2016 at 7:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenny,

Given that Sid has zero chance of getting Crystal out by the end of the year - because nothing has been filed that could work (and even if it had, there would be a hearing, and none are set), why do you continue to support his lies to Crystal that it's possible?

Unless or until there is a hearing, she's not getting out. Sid's promises that she will be released without a hearing are just cruel - and I don't understand why you, as a supposed friend, support those lies to her.

You can still say he's helping her, and you hope she may get released without supporting his blatant lies that it's close.

Why do you support his abuse of Crystal?

If you believe that nothing's been filed that could get Crystal released, then you are wrong.

It has been my belief that the state and the media would act reasonable to some extent, but they have used the "double-down" strategy to fight the truths of Mangum's innocence... mainly to ignore it. That is why I am battling Freeman. She can't handle the truth. And neither can anyone else, or otherwise Crystal would've been released and exonerated long ago.

The media and the state, backed by the Powers-That-Be want to perpetuate the Duke Lacrosse case myth that Mangum is an evil prevaricator who falsely accused three innocent lacrosse players of sexual assault. To further imprint that characterization of Mangum they have backed the trumped up the false criminal charges and conviction against her. Mangum is not the first African American to be knowingly imprisoned on bogus base. Sadly, she won't be the last.; December 3, 2016 at 7:37 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kimhyderal:

"[Reginald Daye] drag[[grd] her out by the hair. He then tried to choke the life out of her."

Again, the photographs posted by Sidney Hatt and the records Sidney Harr showed no evidence that Crystal suffered the trauma you described.

Crystal made no such allegations when she was arrested.According to Sidney she declined to gave any statement when read her Miranda rights.

Photographs did show injuries to Mangum... that support he gouged her face with his fingernails. And swelling to her face is apparent too. However, photos do show that the door, behind which Mangum locked herself, was bashed from its frame, and there was evidence of clumps of her hair in the apartment.

Regarding the police, she was arrested on sight, and before she could give a statement she was told that she was being criminally charged and any statement she made would be used against her. So, under those circumstances do you expect or to talk. Bottom line is that there was no investigation into the case. She was arrested on sight with no officer first trying to get her side of the story.

Not unlike the road-rage incident in Louisiana where the white motorist fatally shot the unarmed black professional football player. The police interviewed him and released him without charging him. For African Americans in this country there is no justice. That is why San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernicka does not stand for the pregame National Anthem. There's certainly no justice in Mangum's case.; December 3, 2016 at 7:48 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous guiowen said...
Kenhyderal,
It's too bad that, back in 2010, you and your friends did not explain to Crystal that she had dodged a bullet, and might not be so lucky the next time.

gui, mon ami, you call serving three months on a trifling vandalism incident dodging a bullet? Hardly. Had it been anyone else, she never would have been charged. Since the Duke Lacrosse case Mangum has been targeted by the establishment, state, Powers-That-Be, and the media. What they did in 2010 is make a huge mountain out of a pimple.; December 3, 2016 at 7:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

First, my condolences on the loss of your sister.

Second, you said "So, now I am getting back up to speed and will be working on several new projects before the year is over. Trying to beat Abe's deadline!"

I did not set any deadline. You are the one who claimed that Mangum would be released before the end of the year. You repeated that claim multiple times. I am simply tracking your prediction. I understand why you might want to disavow and distance yourself from it now. However, it is inaccurate to say that your promise that Mangum would be released this year is a deadline imposed by me.

For the record, I predict that Mangum will be released from prison in February 2026.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Aidney Harr:

"gui, mon ami, you call serving three months on a trifling vandalism incident dodging a bullet? Hardly. Had it been anyone else, she never would have been charged. Since the Duke Lacrosse case Mangum has been targeted by the establishment, state, Powers-That-Be, and the media. What they did in 2010 is make a huge mountain out of a pimple."

The Due Rape haox established only that Crystal lied about being raped and that Mike Nifong wrongfully prosecuted three innocent men to curry favor with the black Durham electorate and win the electio for Durham County DA.

Yourr data on the percentage of black voters in other areas of the country are irrelevant. The historical facts are, Nifong did not have te support either of the white voters or the black voters of Durham County. After he made an isue of the bogus rape charges, he had a lot of support. That does not say much for the electorate in Durham County.; December 3, 2016 at 9:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Photographs did show injuries to Mangum... that support he gouged her face with his fingernails. And swelling to her face is apparent too."

Only an individual with zero clinical competence would claimthat. However, photos do show that the door, behind which Mangum locked herself, was bashed from its frame, and there was evidence of clumps of her hair in the apartment.

"Regarding the police, she was arrested on sight, and before she could give a statement she was told that she was being criminally charged and any statement she made would be used against her. So, under those circumstances do you expect or to talk. Bottom line is that there was no investigation into the case. She was arrested on sight with no officer first trying to get her side of the story."

Bottom line is, there was an investigation into the case. That the results did not support your crusade to get Crystal a pass for murdering Reginald Daye does not add up to no investigation. Very Trumpian of you. The investigation does not support your biased, preconceived notion so disregard it. And how woud her claiming self defense put her at risk of incrimination?

"Not unlike the road-rage incident in Louisiana where the white motorist fatally shot the unarmed black professional football player. The police interviewed him and released him without charging him."

This is irrelevant to the fact that Crystal did murder Reginald Date.

"For African Americans in this country there is no justice. That is why San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernicka does not stand for the pregame National Anthem. There's certainly no justice in Mangum's case."

Again, Crystal got justice when she was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye. And Has Colin Kapaernick ever contributed any oh his mote than adequate salary for bring a back up quarterback to any real justice issue? If so, please lt us know.; December 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: You know the bBar can do nothing about Mangum's conviction, right? Even if they found merit to your frivolous complaint? They have no jurisdiction. You continue to be pathetic.; December 3, 2016 at 9:44 AM
Anonymous said...: Even if you had something filed there would still have to be a hearing. Why do you continue to lie to Crystal and emotionally abuse her?; December 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"It has been my belief that the state and the media would act reasonable to some extent, but they have used the 'double-down' strategy to fight the truths of Mangum's innocence... mainly to ignore it."

Irrelevant statement, as it has been established as truth, largely by Crystal's own testimony that she murdered Reginald Daye.

"That is why I am battling Freeman. She can't handle the truth. And neither can anyone else, or otherwise Crystal would've been released and exonerated long ago."

DA Freeman had nothing to do with the Reginald Daye murder case and does not have the legal authority to intervene, as has been repeatedly explained to you. You will not confront the people who do have the authority to do so, which is a de facto admission thatyou can not make a case for her innocence. So you indulge in your delusion of grandeur,that you can force DA Freeman to intervene.Are you going to claim again that your frivolous, non meritorious suit against DA Freeman was not about Crystal's conviction? I remind you, as pthers have reminded you, the relief you sought was that Crystal's conviction be overturned and that Crystal bereleased.

"The media and the state, backed by the Powers-That-Be want to perpetuate the Duke Lacrosse case myth that Mangum is an evil prevaricator who falsely accused three innocent lacrosse players of sexual assault."

Irrelevant statement as it has been established by the evidence that Crystal lied about being raped. I remind you, you have produced no hard evidence that Crystal told the truth.That no one can prove she was lying is irrelevant. The case turned on whether or not Crystal told the truth, and there is no evidence she did.

"To further imprint that characterization of Mangum they have backed the trumped up the false criminal charges and conviction against her. Mangum is not the first African American to be knowingly imprisoned on bogus base. Sadly, she won't be the last."

Another irrelevant statement as it has been established that the charges against Crystal were anything but trumped up. They were real.; December 3, 2016 at 9:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr, if you believe you have a cause of action against DA Freeman, you have manifested real evidence of delusional behavior. Maybe the legal experts can comment on this. I believe you have opened yourself up to charges oc criminal harassment.; December 3, 2016 at 10:01 AM
kenhyderal said...: When you have perjured evidence there can be no justice. Perjury in a murder case is not only sinful it's criminal and it's a duty not a discretion for a DA to look ate hard evidence of this crime that is evident. If Nichols is found guilty of this Crystal's conviction in her trial can not stand.; December 3, 2016 at 3:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Are you really this stupid, or you just humoring Harr?

Even if Sid could show absolute proof of issues with the Mangum trial, Freeman can do nothing about it - not her county, not her Jurisdiction. If Sid wants to challenge the conviction, she has to work through Durham. Odd that he't not attacking a black male prosecutor (the only one who could actually do something).

It's been explained repeatedly - even if Freeman thought there was merit, there is absolutely nothing she could do about the case.

Why do you continue to ignore that? It's either ignorance or abuse ... which is it? You that stupid, or you just an abuser?

(And, it's been explained why any alleged perjury would also be in the purview of the Durham DA's office, because that's where the alleged crime occurred.); December 3, 2016 at 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...: A DA with jurisdiction - but Freeman can do nothing. Why is Sid not pushing the Durham DA? As has been noted, he is the only one with jurisdiction to prosecute a crime alleged to have occurred in Durham (and we've already repeatedly explained why the fact he works for the ME in Raleigh doesn't change that).

It's just odd that Sid won't go after the one person who could actually prosecute Nichols, and the one man who could do anything about Crystal's conviction.

Why is that? Sid? Kenny?

And, don't pretend he thinks Freeman has some ability to do something, that's been repeatedly explained.; December 3, 2016 at 4:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"When you have perjured evidence there can be no justice. Perjury in a murder case is not only sinful it's criminal and it's a duty not a discretion for a DA to look ate hard evidence of this crime that is evident. If Nichols is found guilty of this Crystal's conviction in her trial can not stand."

Yet another irrelevant comment. Neither Sidney Harr nor Kenhyderal have provided any evidence of perjured testimony in Crystal's murder trial. The only witness who had motive to give perjured testimony was Crystal, in her futile attempt to beat the murder rap.; December 3, 2016 at 4:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

What you have called "Nifongian courage" is really something like Ku Klux Klannian acceptance of racial diversity, or McCrory-an acceptance of LGBT people's humanity.; December 3, 2016 at 4:41 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
Is there any way that we can get you to stop whining?; December 3, 2016 at 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...: "Why is Sid not pushing the Durham DA?"

Because Sidney lives in Wake county(Raleigh downtown) and does not want to have to travel to Durham county. He also feels that Mangum lives in Wake county since the prison she is in, is in Wake county. If he can get Freeman to respond, he is hoping that she will push the Durham DA I think. You cannot ask rational questions here as there are no rational answers. Plus, Sidney got his nose in a twit about Freeman not responding to his letters, so this gives him the race card to use. As noted the Durham DA is black, so he would not be able to use the race card as he loves to always do in any letters or suits he initiates.; December 3, 2016 at 6:40 PM
guiowen said...: Sidney said,
[you call serving three months on a trifling vandalism incident dodging a bullet?[

sidney, I bet if you could have got Crystal off with three months, or even thirty months, for that matter, you{d be dancing with joy and sending us all your blue crying towels.; December 4, 2016 at 12:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Except - as has repeatedly been explained - it doesn't matter where Sid, or Crystal lives - jurisdiction is based on where the alleged crime took place - in this case, that's Durham. Even if Freeman believed every word Sid was saying, she could do nothing about it. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The fact this has been explained to Sid/Kenny and they ignore it is just further proof their objective is the emotional and mental abuse of Crystal, not actually helping her.; December 4, 2016 at 4:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 27 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 157 days since the end of June, 225 days since April 23rd, 264 days since the Ides of March, 1,108 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,459 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,372 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 4, 2016 at 4:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

The only one injecting race into your issues with Freeman is you. You are the perfect example of the reverse racist that let to Trump winning - because you cry race even when it has nothing to do with the issue. You just want people to be scared of being called racist, and pay you.

Freeman has zero jurisdiction to do anything, so she is ignoring you. The person who could do something is a black male, which doesn't fit your racist diatribe, so you refuse to go that route.

You claim your motive is to help Crystal - sadly it's clear she has nothing to do with your main goal to shake people down for money.

You are a racist disgrace.; December 4, 2016 at 5:24 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

The only one injecting race into your issues with Freeman is you. You are the perfect example of the reverse racist that let to Trump winning - because you cry race even when it has nothing to do with the issue. You just want people to be scared of being called racist, and pay you.

Freeman has zero jurisdiction to do anything, so she is ignoring you. The person who could do something is a black male, which doesn't fit your racist diatribe, so you refuse to go that route.

You claim your motive is to help Crystal - sadly it's clear she has nothing to do with your main goal to shake people down for money.

You are a racist disgrace.

Unfortunately, race is an issue. If there is another reason for ignoring me other than the fact that I am an African American, then I would consider it... I am a reasonable man. Neither she nor her legal counsel have given an excuse for ignoring me. Because I am a Wake County resident, D.A. Freeman, as district attorney of Wake County, has a duty to respond to me... even if it is to refuse to look into Mangum's case. Ignoring a constituent is not only rude and disrespectful, but it is unprofessional.

As far as Durham District Attorney Roger Echols goes, I have written him and been to his Durham office on several occasions. He has refused to get involved in the case... has been ignoring me as well.

In determining who was the most appropriate district attorney against which to file a lawsuit, I decided on the Wake County D.A. because we are both Wake County residents, as is Crystal Mangum, who is being wrongfully incarcerated at the women's prison in Raleigh. Race had nothing to do with my decision to file suit against Freeman over Echols.

Also, keep in mind that prior to filing the lawsuit, Freeman dismissed all of the cases of the black 18-year veteran state trooper who was determined by a judge to have provided misleading evidence to the Court. She was even considering filing a criminal charge against him for perjury. This incident also weighed heavily in my decision.

Consider yourself elucidated.; December 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Except - as has repeatedly been explained - it doesn't matter where Sid, or Crystal lives - jurisdiction is based on where the alleged crime took place - in this case, that's Durham. Even if Freeman believed every word Sid was saying, she could do nothing about it. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The fact this has been explained to Sid/Kenny and they ignore it is just further proof their objective is the emotional and mental abuse of Crystal, not actually helping her.

What has been repeatedly explained on this comment site is that the civil lawsuit is about the Wake County district attorney ignoring a Wake County resident (who, by the way, helped vote her into office). She has a duty to respond... using her discretion in what action to take. The point being that she cannot ignore a constituent who is attempting to present evidence of post-conviction innocence and trying to report a crime. At its most primal level, the lawsuit is between me and Freeman and it has to do with her ignoring me. Period.; December 4, 2016 at 7:49 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous guiowen said...
Sidney said,
[you call serving three months on a trifling vandalism incident dodging a bullet?[

sidney, I bet if you could have got Crystal off with three months, or even thirty months, for that matter, you{d be dancing with joy and sending us all your blue crying towels.

gui, mon ami, serving three months, or even three days, for a trifling domestic vandalism issue is hardly worth confinement in the already overcrowded correctional institutions. Had it been anyone other than Crystal Mangum, the vandal would have not been taken into custody, but required to pay restitution and possibly a fine. The case was much ado about nothing.; December 4, 2016 at 7:54 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Why is Sid not pushing the Durham DA?"

Because Sidney lives in Wake county(Raleigh downtown) and does not want to have to travel to Durham county. He also feels that Mangum lives in Wake county since the prison she is in, is in Wake county. If he can get Freeman to respond, he is hoping that she will push the Durham DA I think. You cannot ask rational questions here as there are no rational answers. Plus, Sidney got his nose in a twit about Freeman not responding to his letters, so this gives him the race card to use. As noted the Durham DA is black, so he would not be able to use the race card as he loves to always do in any letters or suits he initiates.

The fact is that I have written more than a dozen letters and sent disks to the Durham district attorneys... including Echols (on numerous occasions). After assessing the situation in April 2016, I felt that I would have a much stronger legal case going after the Wake County district attorney in civil court. Race played no part.; December 4, 2016 at 7:59 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenhyderal:

"When you have perjured evidence there can be no justice. Perjury in a murder case is not only sinful it's criminal and it's a duty not a discretion for a DA to look ate hard evidence of this crime that is evident. If Nichols is found guilty of this Crystal's conviction in her trial can not stand."

Yet another irrelevant comment. Neither Sidney Harr nor Kenhyderal have provided any evidence of perjured testimony in Crystal's murder trial. The only witness who had motive to give perjured testimony was Crystal, in her futile attempt to beat the murder rap.

Answer me this: Was Reginald Daye's spleen removed at his emergency surgery on April 3, 2011? Yes or No?; December 4, 2016 at 8:02 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr, if you believe you have a cause of action against DA Freeman, you have manifested real evidence of delusional behavior. Maybe the legal experts can comment on this. I believe you have opened yourself up to charges oc criminal harassment.

Hah! Shirley you jest. Criminal harassment for filing a civil lawsuit against a district attorney? The great black orator and abolitionist Frederick Douglas said, "Power concedes nothing without a demand." By filing the lawsuit against Freeman, I am making a demand for justice.; December 4, 2016 at 8:08 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid:

First, my condolences on the loss of your sister.

Second, you said "So, now I am getting back up to speed and will be working on several new projects before the year is over. Trying to beat Abe's deadline!"

I did not set any deadline. You are the one who claimed that Mangum would be released before the end of the year. You repeated that claim multiple times. I am simply tracking your prediction. I understand why you might want to disavow and distance yourself from it now. However, it is inaccurate to say that your promise that Mangum would be released this year is a deadline imposed by me.

For the record, I predict that Mangum will be released from prison in February 2026.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Hey, Abe.

Thanks for your words of condolence. My sister was a wonderful person who was gone too soon.

Regarding the countdown, you are absolutely correct about it. If anything, it served as incentive for me to work hard to reach the year's end deadline. Because you so religiously kept track of it, I felt I was giving you a tribute of sorts by referencing it as your deadline. I meant it positively and not negatively.

Actually, I am flabbergasted that Ms. Mangum has not long ago been freed and exonerated. You prediction of February 2026 is so far off the mark. She will be released long before then... even if I am unsuccessful in having her out by the end of 2016.; December 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Unfortunately, race is an issue."

No it isn't.

"If there is another reason for ignoring me other than the fact that I am an African American, then I would consider it... I am a reasonable man."

You are anything but a reasonable man. It has been explained to you. You do not have a legitimate grievance against D Freeman. You are throwing a tantrum because DA Freeman, like so many other prople inthe world understands you are a delusional, megalomaniacal, attention seeking narcissist.; December 4, 2016 at 8:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"As far as Durham District Attorney Roger Echols goes, I have written him and been to his Durham office on several occasions. He has refused to get involved in the case... has been ignoring me as well."

As well he should, since you have no legal standing in the case, you are ignorant of the law, and you are nothing more than an attention seeking narcissist.; December 4, 2016 at 8:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Freeman can do nothing about the case. You are a racist prick. There is no other explanation.

You are pathetic.; December 4, 2016 at 8:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Those lawsuits Freeman dismissed were in Wake County - her jurisdiction. She can't do anything about Durham County. You have been told that, but it doesn't allow you to scream racism and play the race card, so you ignore it.; December 4, 2016 at 9:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"In determining who was the most appropriate district attorney against which to file a lawsuit, I decided on the Wake County D.A. because we are both Wake County residents, as is Crystal Mangum, who is being wrongfully incarcerated at the women's prison in Raleigh."

Another manifestation of your willful ignorance and incredible narcissistic stupidity.

As has been explained to you, Crystal's incarceration in a prison in Wake County after being convicted, justly, of a crime in Durham County, does not give the Wake Coubty DA any jurisdiction over the case. And, with regard to legal standing, since you have none in the case of the murder of Reginald Daye, your status as a Wake County resident does not give the Wake County DA any jurisdiction over the case.

Again, you are displaying your delusional, megalomaniacal narcissism. You are p---ed that no one of any consequence pays attention to you. You are like a 4 year old brat lying on the floor kicking and screaming to attract attention.; December 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr;

"gui, mon ami, serving three months, or even three days, for a trifling domestic vandalism issue is hardly worth confinement in the already overcrowded correctional institutions. Had it been anyone other than Crystal Mangum, the vandal would have not been taken into custody, but required to pay restitution and possibly a fine. The case was much ado about nothing."

This from Sidney Harr who believes three innocent men should have been incarcerated in these overcrowded institutions because Crystal falsely accused them of rape.; December 4, 2016 at 9:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Answer me this: Was Reginald Daye's spleen removed at his emergency surgery on April 3, 2011? Yes or No?"

You answer this. How did that add up to Perjury, "having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, WILLFULLY(emphasis added) and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true;"

from :https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1621; December 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Hah! Shirley you jest. Criminal harassment for filing a civil lawsuit against a district attorney? The great black orator and abolitionist Frederick Douglas said, "Power concedes nothing without a demand." By filing the lawsuit against Freeman, I am making a demand for justice."

"Criminal harassment, which includes "stalking," is a crime. While many crimes are defined by conduct that results in a very clear physical outcome (for example, murder), the offence of criminal harassment prohibits deliberate conduct that is psychologically harmful to others. From www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/fv-vf/har/part1.html
.

Trying to get Crystal a pass is anything but reporting an injustice.

It is obvious that your repeated attempts to coerce DA Freeman into intervene in a case in which she has no authority to intervenr, filing a complaint with the State Bar because she will not intervene, that does add up to criminal harassment.

What do the legal authorities think?; December 4, 2016 at 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Actually, I am flabbergasted that Ms. Mangum has not long ago been freed and exonerated."

Yet another manifestation of your incredible stupidity and your deluded megalomaniacal narcissistic, attention seeking behavior.; December 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"At its most primal level, the lawsuit is between me and Freeman and it has to do with her ignoring me. Period."

Yu admit your lawsuit s about you craving attention and nothing more.; December 4, 2016 at 10:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"You prediction of February 2026 is so far off the mark. She will be released long before then... even if I am unsuccessful in having her out by the end of 2016."

My prediction assumes that Mangum doesn't catch any additional charges in prison or engage in any behavior that extends her earliest eligible release date. If I am off the mark it will be because I over estimated Mangum's ability to conform to the rules, regulations and strictures of prison life and her release date is extended.

At this point, if you were to be completely honest and forthright, you (and even kenny and Tinfoil) would have to admit that Mangum's options for relief from her conviction and sentence are exhausted and the only thing left is to let justice be served.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "WILLFULLY"................... Nichols willfully doubled down on his statement that the spleen was removed, in a desperate effort to try and salvage his already tattered reputation as a Medical Examiner, even in the face of his own autopsy report. Fairness to Crystal be damned. Meier failed to make any issue of this deliberate lie, while Coggins-Franks, using carefully selected scene evidence suggested that inconsequential discrepancies in Crystal's remembrances of exact places and positions, during this fluid situation, amounted to her lying. Meier allowed the Jury to conclude Crystal was lying and Nicholls was telling the truth.; December 4, 2016 at 3:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny - None of that explains why racist Sid won't go after the DA who can actually do anything. Freeman can do nothing, even if she wanted too.

You and he just prove your motives when you won't learn and keep repeating the same BS.; December 4, 2016 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal again pontificates from the back of his turnip truck:

'Nichols willfully doubled down on his statement that the spleen was removed, in a desperate effort to try and salvage his already tattered reputation as a Medical Examiner, even in the face of his own autopsy report."

You offer no tangible proof that he did. Your desire to get Crystal a pass for murdering Reginald Daye proves nothing.

"Fairness to Crystal be damned."

That Crystal was guilty of murdering Reginald Daye does not add up to fairness to Crystal. The only fairness which got damned here was the fairness Crystal should have shown Reginald Daye.

"Meier failed to make any issue of this deliberate lie,"

Because it was not a deliberate lie.

"while Coggins-Franks, using carefully selected scene evidence suggested that inconsequential discrepancies in Crystal's remembrances of exact places and positions, during this fluid situation, amounted to her lying."

No it didn't.

"Meier allowed the Jury to conclude Crystal was lying and Nicholls was telling the truth."

No.It was obvious to the Jury that Dr. Nicholls was honest in his testimony and Crystal was evasive and self serving in trying to avoid criminal responsibility for Reginald aye's death.

Now, go and bury yourself in a pile of turnips.; December 4, 2016 at 3:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, you said that Freeman not responding to you in your complaint to the Bar was because you were black(You had to assume that).

But you have said this:

"The fact is that I have written more than a dozen letters and sent disks to the Durham district attorneys... including Echols (on numerous occasions)."

So, the Durham DAs did not respond to you also because you were black? Just curious.; December 4, 2016 at 7:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 26 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 158 days since the end of June, 226 days since April 23rd, 265 days since the Ides of March, 1,109 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,460 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,371 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 5, 2016 at 2:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

The tirle of this blog entry presumes a fact not in evidence, that you actually have a grievance against DA Freeman.; December 5, 2016 at 5:51 AM
Walt said...: Well Sid, you've gone and done it again, another frivolous filing. Are you going for the record? I know that you don't know the law, or the rules of professional conduct. You should have taken the good advice offered to you by A Lawyer and check this with your friend Jim Coleman. He could have helped you avoid another embarrassing frivolous filing. It has been previously explained to you that Freeman has no jurisdiction over crimes that allegedly took place outside of her judicial district. It has also been explained to you that a politician refusing to talk to a constituent is not a civil wrong or an example of discrimination. That you worked for Lorrin Freemen's election does not in any way entitle you to a meeting with her. That is a political issue subject only to the ballot box. You have demonstrated a remarkable ability not to learn from your experience and mistakes. This too will end badly for you.

Walt-in-Durham; December 5, 2016 at 6:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney, you said that Freeman not responding to you in your complaint to the Bar was because you were black(You had to assume that).

But you have said this:

"The fact is that I have written more than a dozen letters and sent disks to the Durham district attorneys... including Echols (on numerous occasions)."

So, the Durham DAs did not respond to you also because you were black? Just curious.

I am a Wake County resident. Does a Durham County D.A. have a duty to respond to someone who is not a resident of his county? This is not rhetorical... I don't know. Does the county in which an incident occurs or the county in which the complainant resides establish whether or not the district attorney has the duty to respond? Again, legally, I don't know. However, I believe that the elected official (D.A. in this case) clearly has a duty to respond to his/her constituent. I do not feel this is in dispute.

Because the Wake D.A. has a duty to respond to me, and has chosen to ignore me... and considering the racist environment within the State with its laws and bills coming from the General Assembly, it is not unreasonable to assume that racism is a motivating factor in the district attorney's decision to ignore me. This is especially true in light of the fact that she has offered no other explanation for ignoring me.

It is questionable as to whether the Durham D.A. has an obligation to respond to me because I am not his constituent... although the matter at hand took place in his jurisdiction, my residence in Raleigh is not.

Have you been adequately enlightened, or is further elucidation required?; December 5, 2016 at 6:29 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 3:48 PM wrote: "No.It was obvious to the Jury that Dr. Nicholls was honest in his testimony and Crystal was evasive and self serving in trying to avoid criminal responsibility for Reginald aye's death."

Ding - Ding - Ding! Ladies and Gentlemen, We Have A Winner!

Walt-in-Durham; December 5, 2016 at 6:30 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Does the county in which an incident occurs or the county in which the complainant resides establish whether or not the district attorney has the duty to respond? Again, legally, I don't know. However, I believe that the elected official (D.A. in this case) clearly has a duty to respond to his/her constituent. I do not feel this is in dispute."

This has been explained to you. The fact that you won't read the N.C. Constitution tells us all we need to know about your uninformed and frivolous filings.

"Because the Wake D.A. has a duty to respond to me,..."

She does not. This too has been explained to you.

"...and considering the racist environment within the State with its laws and bills coming from the General Assembly, it is not unreasonable to assume that racism is a motivating factor in the district attorney's decision to ignore me."

That's making a very serious allegation with no evidence to back it up. You should know better, as an educated person. Your ignorance is on full display Sid. You should have taken A Lawyer's advice and check this foolishness with your friend Jim Coleman. He could have steered you clear of this mistake.

Walt-in-Durham; December 5, 2016 at 6:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

At this point you are clearly either severely mentally ill, or just proving this is all a joke to you.

Everything in your latest response about if Freeman has a duty to respond, and about how the DA cares where they crime occurred, not where the people reporting it live, and all the rest have been explained repeatedly, and even in this threat - yet you still pretend to be clueless on them.

If you truly are as clueless as you are coming across - go see a doctor ASAP cause that's a sign of serious mental issues.

If you aren't - then stop, abuse isn't funny, and that's all you are doing to Crystal.; December 5, 2016 at 10:54 AM
Anonymous said...: It is questionable as to whether the Durham D.A. has an obligation to respond to me because I am not his constituent... although the matter at hand took place in his jurisdiction, my residence in Raleigh is not.

Have you been adequately enlightened, or is further elucidation required?

No, he has no obligation to respond, neither does Freeman - this has all been explained to you.; December 5, 2016 at 10:56 AM
A Lawyer said...: Walt said: Well Sid, you've gone and done it again, another frivolous filing. Are you going for the record? I know that you don't know the law, or the rules of professional conduct. You should have taken the good advice offered to you by A Lawyer and check this with your friend Jim Coleman. He could have helped you avoid another embarrassing frivolous filing. It has been previously explained to you that Freeman has no jurisdiction over crimes that allegedly took place outside of her judicial district. It has also been explained to you that a politician refusing to talk to a constituent is not a civil wrong or an example of discrimination. That you worked for Lorrin Freemen's election does not in any way entitle you to a meeting with her. That is a political issue subject only to the ballot box. You have demonstrated a remarkable ability not to learn from your experience and mistakes. This too will end badly for you.

You have zero credibility with the North Carolina Bar, because they successfully sued you for unlicensed practice of law, and won and injunction after you promised to "humiliate" them in court.

Even if the Bar would be inclined to listen to you, you are complaining about conduct of DA Freeman that has already been upheld in court.

So your latest filing is another in a long series of useless, pointless, exercises.; December 5, 2016 at 11:04 AM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
The problem is you have somehow gained a reputation as a vexatious litigant. I won't say that you deserve it, but you have it. A consequence of this is that people such as Freeman figure that you'll merely waste their time, and so have no inclination to speak to you.; December 5, 2016 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Have you been adequately enlightened, or is further elucidation required?"

Someone who does not respond to enlightenment and elucidation is incapable of providing enlightenment and elucidation.; December 5, 2016 at 12:09 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Guiowen: Considering Dr. Harr a vexatious litigant is simply your way of prejudicially dismissing him in order to support and maintain the status quo in North Carolina that everyone knows is a corrupt embarrassment but that nearly everyone save Dr. Harr is afraid to take on this entrenched abomination.; December 5, 2016 at 1:50 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
I'm merely explaining - to him, not to you - the reason for this situation.
I have already told him what he should do: find a politically inclined lawyer, and persuade him to run for the position of DA. He refuses to do this. You, yourself, have done nothing to help him. Shame on you!; December 5, 2016 at 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"@ Guiowen: Considering Dr. Harr a vexatious litigant is simply your way of prejudicially dismissing him in order to support and maintain the status quo in North Carolina that everyone knows is a corrupt embarrassment but that nearly everyone save Dr. Harr is afraid to take on this entrenched abomination."

Harr is making NO attempt to fight the system in NC. He is simply trying to attract attention to himself. If he really were trying to get Crystal exonerated he would have taken his case to the authorities who had jurisdiction, not to someone who has no jurisdiction.

His attempt to coerce DA Freeman, his attempt to get a pass for Crystal for the murder of Trginald Dayr, that is what is truly corrupt in North Carolina.; December 5, 2016 at 2:33 PM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said: " find a politically inclined lawyer, and persuade him to run for the position of DA"....................... A sarcastic man is a wounded man"; December 5, 2016 at 3:15 PM
guiowen said...: Kenny,
Sorry you can't recognize good advice. That's why you always lose.; December 5, 2016 at 3:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 25 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 159 days since the end of June, 227 days since April 23rd, 266 days since the Ides of March, 1,110 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,461 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,370 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 6, 2016 at 5:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 24 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 160 days since the end of June, 228 days since April 23rd, 267 days since the Ides of March, 1,111 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,462 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,369 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 7, 2016 at 3:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney says:

"It is questionable as to whether the Durham D.A. has an obligation to respond to me because I am not his constituent... although the matter at hand took place in his jurisdiction, my residence in Raleigh is not."

But, but... At the below link is 'the committee' I am sure at least one of your members lives in Durham county and thus you could file suit to the Durham DA based on them not responding to the committee. Or is the committee just one(Sidney) now?

http://www.justice4nifong.com/direc/direc.htm; December 7, 2016 at 5:50 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 5:50 AM wrote: "But, but... At the below link is 'the committee' I am sure at least one of your members lives in Durham county and thus you could file suit to the Durham DA based on them not responding to the committee. Or is the committee just one(Sidney) now?"

Well, addressing the 14th Judicial District Attorney would at least be the DA who has exclusive jurisdiction to file a criminal case. However, if you RTFF, you would know that a DA has no legally recognized obligation to meet with any particular constituent. Meetings with people/constituents are a political question and a ballot box issue only.

Walt-in-Durham; December 7, 2016 at 8:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Time for Kenhyderal to complain about amateur psychiatric diagnoses.

Sidney Harr is a delusional, megalomaniacal narcissist who only seeks attention. He really cares for no one but Sidney Harr.

I notice that Kenhyderal fails to notice Sidney' worse than amateurish, totally meaningless legal pronouncemrnys.

But then, Kenhyderal has not fallen off a turnip truck.; December 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 23 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 161 days since the end of June, 229 days since April 23rd, 268 days since the Ides of March, 1,112 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,463 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,368 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 8, 2016 at 3:06 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Anonymous at 5:50 AM wrote: "But, but... At the below link is 'the committee' I am sure at least one of your members lives in Durham county and thus you could file suit to the Durham DA based on them not responding to the committee. Or is the committee just one(Sidney) now?"

Well, addressing the 14th Judicial District Attorney would at least be the DA who has exclusive jurisdiction to file a criminal case. However, if you RTFF, you would know that a DA has no legally recognized obligation to meet with any particular constituent. Meetings with people/constituents are a political question and a ballot box issue only.

Walt-in-Durham

Hey, Walt.

Possibly, but the Committee is not as a whole filing the complaint. I am filing it as an individual who wrote letters to D.A. Freeman as far back as January 2015. Simply me, a Wake County citizen, attempting to communicate with my representative district attorney in order to report a crime and present evidence of innocence involving another Wake County resident.

I am not demanding a meeting with the district attorney if she is willing to communicate with me in good-faith otherwise. Also, I would be more than willing to discuss Mangum's case with an assistant district attorney. The problem stems from her and her legal staff ignoring me. When doing so, without cause, that becomes unacceptable behavior. As a Wake County citizen, I deserve to have my concerns addressed as do others who file complaints with the Wake County D.A.'s office.; December 8, 2016 at 6:49 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Kenhyderal,
I'm merely explaining - to him, not to you - the reason for this situation.
I have already told him what he should do: find a politically inclined lawyer, and persuade him to run for the position of DA. He refuses to do this. You, yourself, have done nothing to help him. Shame on you!

gui, mon ami,

There is only one attorney in this world who I trust explicitly... and he practices in California. As it is, I cannot even find a lawyer in North Carolina who will even write a letter on behalf of Crystal Mangum. Fat chance of me persuading an attorney to run for office. Besides, the case against Mangum is so political, no political-aspiring attorney or politician would advocate for Ms. Mangum for doing so would be political suicide.; December 8, 2016 at 6:57 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Walt said: Well Sid, you've gone and done it again, another frivolous filing. Are you going for the record? I know that you don't know the law, or the rules of professional conduct. You should have taken the good advice offered to you by A Lawyer and check this with your friend Jim Coleman. He could have helped you avoid another embarrassing frivolous filing. It has been previously explained to you that Freeman has no jurisdiction over crimes that allegedly took place outside of her judicial district. It has also been explained to you that a politician refusing to talk to a constituent is not a civil wrong or an example of discrimination. That you worked for Lorrin Freemen's election does not in any way entitle you to a meeting with her. That is a political issue subject only to the ballot box. You have demonstrated a remarkable ability not to learn from your experience and mistakes. This too will end badly for you.

You have zero credibility with the North Carolina Bar, because they successfully sued you for unlicensed practice of law, and won and injunction after you promised to "humiliate" them in court.

Even if the Bar would be inclined to listen to you, you are complaining about conduct of DA Freeman that has already been upheld in court.

So your latest filing is another in a long series of useless, pointless, exercises.

A Lawyer, what you fail to understand is the my Complaint against D.A. Freeman is not final... an appeal is pending with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. To date, I have not heard anything about the appeal case's status at present.; December 8, 2016 at 7:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Why is "the case against Magnum so political"? Who has made it political? Why? What do they have to gain?

You make assertions, but don't even bother to explain your assertions, let alone provide evidence to support them?; December 8, 2016 at 7:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Did you appeal Mangum's conviction to SCOTUS? If not, why not?; December 8, 2016 at 7:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 22 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 162 days since the end of June, 230 days since April 23rd, 269 days since the Ides of March, 1,113 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,464 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,367 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 9, 2016 at 2:44 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Simply me, a Wake County citizen, attempting to communicate with my representative district attorney in order to report a crime and present evidence of innocence involving another Wake County resident."

Except what you are trying to report is not a crime>You have offered no evidence that what you are trying o report is a crime. You have been challenged to provide evidence and you have not.

and:

"As a Wake County citizen, I deserve to have my concerns addressed as do others who file complaints with the Wake County D.A.'s office."

So, if you believe Martians have landed in Raleigh and you teport that to the DA, you have a right to have the DA accept your complaint at face value, Right?; December 9, 2016 at 3:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"gui, mon ami,

There is only one attorney in this world who I trust explicitly... and he practices in California. As it is, I cannot even find a lawyer in North Carolina who will even write a letter on behalf of Crystal Mangum. Fat chance of me persuading an attorney to run for office. Besides, the case against Mangum is so political, no political-aspiring attorney or politician would advocate for Ms. Mangum for doing so would be political suicide."

So in other words, in response to guiowen's challenge, you are running away and hiding. Shall we call that Harrian integrity? If so, that is the same kind of thing as Nifongian courage which, in turn, is like Hitlerian concern for the welfare of Jewish people.; December 9, 2016 at 3:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"A Lawyer, what you fail to understand is the my Complaint against D.A. Freeman is not final... an appeal is pending with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. To date, I have not heard anything about the appeal case's status at present."

Your case against DA Freeman was over before it began. As the legal experts have explained to you, explanations which you have, with futility, tried to wish out of existence, you have no case.; December 9, 2016 at 3:13 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: " Simply me, a Wake County citizen, attempting to communicate with my representative district attorney in order to report a crime and present evidence of innocence involving another Wake County resident."

The alleged crime took place in another county, outside Freeman's prosecutorial district. It has previously been explained to you that another DA has the exclusive [emphasis added] jurisdiction to file criminal charges in that other judicial district. At the same time, Freeman has no jurisdiction to file charges regarding a crime that took place in another judicial district other than her own. Further more, Crystal is not a Wake County resident. To be a resident of a county, one must be there voluntarily. She is not. She is a convict housed there.

"I am not demanding a meeting with the district attorney if she is willing to communicate with me in good-faith otherwise. Also, I would be more than willing to discuss Mangum's case with an assistant district attorney. The problem stems from her and her legal staff ignoring me. When doing so, without cause, that becomes unacceptable behavior. As a Wake County citizen, I deserve to have my concerns addressed as do others who file complaints with the Wake County D.A.'s office."

This is a political question, not a legal one. You have no right to force Freeman or any other civil servant to meet with you. If she fails to do so, your remedy is to vote for her opponent, or find someone to run against her at the next election. What you are attempting to do is misuse the grievance process to draw attention to yourself and to sully the reputation of an attorney who has done you no wrong and can do you no good.

Walt-in-Durham; December 9, 2016 at 4:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

I wrote a letter to President Obama in which I reported a federal crime and asked to meet with him to discuss the the evidence I had summarized in my letter. He did not respond, even with a form letter. Do you believe that I have the right to sue President Obama, as a public servant, to force him to meet with me?; December 9, 2016 at 5:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt,

Why do you bother anymore? All of this has been explained to Sid - he ignores it. He's either mentally ill and medically incapable of learning, or he's being intentionally abusive to Crystal.

I tend to believe the latter, or more specifically, he's just a narcissist, and he found someone he can manipulate and abuse for his own ends (which is abusive).

This is not remotely about Crystal - and despite his (and Kenny's) whining - it clearly isn't. This is all about Sid trying to draw attention to himself, and hopefully have someone give him some money.

He's a pathetic joke, you need to stop trying to engage him like he's remotely serious.; December 9, 2016 at 6:49 AM
Anonymous said...: In other words, please don't feed the troll. Sid, like kenny, is a troll.; December 9, 2016 at 7:57 AM
Anonymous said...: "Why do you bother anymore?"

Because Sidney is "Fake News" and needs to be confronted daily. Simple as that.; December 9, 2016 at 11:35 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Harr provides truth and "You can't handle the truth"; December 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Dr. Harr provides truth and "You can't handle the truth'".

This statement is THE biggest lie you and Sidney promulgate.; December 9, 2016 at 3:04 PM
Anonymous said...: The truth is that Mangum was convicted of murder, her appeals are exhausted and she has a little over 9 years left to serve in prison.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 9, 2016 at 3:37 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal,
Aren't you the one who can't even remember things you did a year ago? What would you know about "the truth"?; December 9, 2016 at 4:13 PM
kenhyderal said...: @Abe. 3:37 PM: The truth is, Crystal like so many minorities in your country, was wrongly convicted by the corrupt unjust American Justice System. What you can't handle is the truth that your nation, rather then being exceptional is exceptionally bad in so many areas that mark a society as civilized; like democracy, justice, education, health care, gun control, tolerance, child poverty and inequality.; December 9, 2016 at 8:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"@Abe. 3:37 PM: The truth is, Crystal like so many minorities in your country, was wrongly convicted by the corrupt unjust American Justice System. What you can't handle is the truth that your nation, rather then being exceptional is exceptionally bad in so many areas that mark a society as civilized; like democracy, justice, education, health care, gun control, tolerance, child poverty and inequality."

A graphic demonstration that Kenhyderal LIES when he claims he knows the truth.; December 10, 2016 at 2:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 22 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 162 days since the end of June, 230 days since April 23rd, 269 days since the Ides of March, 1,113 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,464 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,367 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 10, 2016 at 3:19 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny,

The truth is that Mangum was convicted because the evidence of her guilt was convincing and overwhelming. Slamming the US doesn't change that, or help Mangum. It just makes you look silly, angry and unserious.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 10, 2016 at 3:26 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 6:49 AM wrote: "Walt,

Why do you bother anymore? All of this has been explained to Sid - he ignores it. He's either mentally ill and medically incapable of learning, or he's being intentionally abusive to Crystal."

Two reasons. First, someone might stumble onto this site and mistake Sid's postings for the truth. As pointed out above by Anon at 11:35, Sid is fake news that has to be confronted with the truth. Second, you make an excellent point about Sid being abusive of Crystal. While I abhor her conduct in the lacrosse fiasco, the Milton Walker matter and the murder of Reginald Daye, she is a human who does not deserve to be abused by Sid.

"He's a pathetic joke, you need to stop trying to engage him like he's remotely serious."

I don't take Sid seriously. I have made fun of him frequently. And Kenny too. Neither one of them is serious. In fact, they are the masters of truly pathetic and meaningless gestures.

Walt-in-Durham; December 10, 2016 at 6:40 AM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "The truth is that Mangum was convicted because the evidence of her guilt was convincing and overwhelming"............................Only in the mind of those brain-washed about Crystal, thanks to the highly successful campaign by the Duke Lacrosse Defence to discredit the accuser of their privileged, entitled clients and to bolster the opportunistic civil claims they subsequently launched once DNA showed the three charged could not have perpetrated a semen depositing rape. Any untainted jury pool, presented with the acknowledged facts that a larger, jealous drunken, enraged Daye who initiated a brutal and violent attack on a smaller frail terrified female was defending herself. Had Meir given the jury all the relevant facts even the less then impartial Durham jury would have decided this was self-defence. This, without even raising the intervening medical malpractice for a condition (delirium tremens in a chronic alcoholic) that killed Daye or the half-baked, incomplete and error-ridden autopsy report by disgraced, overworked ME Nicholls who had no recollection of what he signed off on.; December 10, 2016 at 10:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Abe said: "The truth is that Mangum was convicted because the evidence of her guilt was convincing and overwhelming"............................Only in the mind of those brain-washed about Crystal, thanks to the highly successful campaign by the Duke Lacrosse Defence to discredit the accuser of their privileged, entitled clients and to bolster the opportunistic civil claims they subsequently launched once DNA showed the three charged could not have perpetrated a semen depositing rape. Any untainted jury pool, presented with the acknowledged facts that a larger, jealous drunken, enraged Daye who initiated a brutal and violent attack on a smaller frail terrified female was defending herself. Had Meir given the jury all the relevant facts even the less then impartial Durham jury would have decided this was self-defence. This, without even raising the intervening medical malpractice for a condition (delirium tremens in a chronic alcoholic) that killed Daye or the half-baked, incomplete and error-ridden autopsy report by disgraced, overworked ME Nicholls who had no recollection of what he signed off on."

Once again Kenhyderal provides us graphic with graphic evidence that he and Sidney LIE whenever he claims he or Sidney tell the truth.; December 10, 2016 at 2:10 PM
guiowen said...: Oh. let him tell his tall stories. It entertains all of us.; December 10, 2016 at 3:16 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

"Only in the mind of those brain-washed about Crystal, thanks to the highly successful campaign by the Duke Lacrosse Defence to discredit the accuser of their privileged, entitled clients and to bolster the opportunistic civil claims they subsequently launched once DNA showed the three charged could not have perpetrated a semen depositing rape."

Please list the things said and done by the Duke lacrosse defendants and their legal team to discredit Mangum.

Also, are you claiming that if you are wrongfully accused of a heinous crime, you don't have the right to raise a defense by showing thru factual evidence that the accuser is lying and the crime did not occur?

Lying is never a good idea. If you don't believe me, just ask your good friend, Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 10, 2016 at 9:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 21 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 163 days since the end of June, 231 days since April 23rd, 270 days since the Ides of March, 1,114 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,465 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,366 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 11, 2016 at 6:53 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Anonymous at 6:49 AM wrote: "Walt,

Why do you bother anymore? All of this has been explained to Sid - he ignores it. He's either mentally ill and medically incapable of learning, or he's being intentionally abusive to Crystal."

Two reasons. First, someone might stumble onto this site and mistake Sid's postings for the truth. As pointed out above by Anon at 11:35, Sid is fake news that has to be confronted with the truth. Second, you make an excellent point about Sid being abusive of Crystal. While I abhor her conduct in the lacrosse fiasco, the Milton Walker matter and the murder of Reginald Daye, she is a human who does not deserve to be abused by Sid.

"He's a pathetic joke, you need to stop trying to engage him like he's remotely serious."

I don't take Sid seriously. I have made fun of him frequently. And Kenny too. Neither one of them is serious. In fact, they are the masters of truly pathetic and meaningless gestures.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, hopefully within a matter of days or weeks, you will be forced to confront the painful reality (for you) that the wheels of justice will finally engage that prove to undeniably lead to Crystal Mangum's freedom and exoneration. It is only a matter of time... chinks in the armor of injustice will appear and spread with ever increasing rapidity. The floodgates built on perjury, corruption, and deceit cannot hold back the truths in Mangum's case. Justice for Crystal Mangum is inevitable.; December 11, 2016 at 7:06 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...

The truth is that Mangum was convicted of murder, her appeals are exhausted and she has a little over 9 years left to serve in prison.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Abe, face it! kenhyderal is correct. You and your Mangum-detractor clones, cannot handle the truth. You better brace yourself for the inevitable. Resistance against the truths of Mangum's case is futile.; December 11, 2016 at 7:10 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: " Simply me, a Wake County citizen, attempting to communicate with my representative district attorney in order to report a crime and present evidence of innocence involving another Wake County resident."

The alleged crime took place in another county, outside Freeman's prosecutorial district. It has previously been explained to you that another DA has the exclusive [emphasis added] jurisdiction to file criminal charges in that other judicial district. At the same time, Freeman has no jurisdiction to file charges regarding a crime that took place in another judicial district other than her own. Further more, Crystal is not a Wake County resident. To be a resident of a county, one must be there voluntarily. She is not. She is a convict housed there.

"I am not demanding a meeting with the district attorney if she is willing to communicate with me in good-faith otherwise. Also, I would be more than willing to discuss Mangum's case with an assistant district attorney. The problem stems from her and her legal staff ignoring me. When doing so, without cause, that becomes unacceptable behavior. As a Wake County citizen, I deserve to have my concerns addressed as do others who file complaints with the Wake County D.A.'s office."

This is a political question, not a legal one. You have no right to force Freeman or any other civil servant to meet with you. If she fails to do so, your remedy is to vote for her opponent, or find someone to run against her at the next election. What you are attempting to do is misuse the grievance process to draw attention to yourself and to sully the reputation of an attorney who has done you no wrong and can do you no good.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, are you serious? To say that Crystal Mangum can't be a resident of Wake County because she's there involuntarily? Never heard of such nonsense. If that is truly the case, I would very much require some enlightenment on that matter.

As far as D.A. Freeman goes, I have gone out of my way not to sully her professional reputation. And I respectfully disagree with your position that she did me no wrong. Without cause, she ignored me... one of her constituents. In effect, she has disenfranchised me with respect to the state's legal system. That is blatantly wrong.; December 11, 2016 at 7:17 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney,

I wrote a letter to President Obama in which I reported a federal crime and asked to meet with him to discuss the the evidence I had summarized in my letter. He did not respond, even with a form letter. Do you believe that I have the right to sue President Obama, as a public servant, to force him to meet with me?

Of course, I believe that you have the right to sue President Obama. Of course, I feel that your chances of success are remote. The main question I would ask you is if it is your primary purpose to meet with President Obama, or to report a federal crime?

In my situation, reporting a crime (and evidence of post-conviction innocence) is my primary purpose. I have been ignored by everyone. The reason for meeting with someone would be to better present my case. But my inquiries were never met with a response, and no one in the Wake County District Attorney's Office would meet with me. Filing the lawsuit against D.A. Freeman was a last-ditch effort.

Hopefully you have been enlightened. Let me know if you require further elucidation.; December 11, 2016 at 7:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Simply me, a Wake County citizen, attempting to communicate with my representative district attorney in order to report a crime and present evidence of innocence involving another Wake County resident."

Except what you are trying to report is not a crime>You have offered no evidence that what you are trying o report is a crime. You have been challenged to provide evidence and you have not.

and:

"As a Wake County citizen, I deserve to have my concerns addressed as do others who file complaints with the Wake County D.A.'s office."

So, if you believe Martians have landed in Raleigh and you teport that to the DA, you have a right to have the DA accept your complaint at face value, Right?

Your scenario is lacking in data, which makes your premise more difficult to compute. The only reason for contacting the district attorney would be if the Martian(s) committed a crime. At the very least it should be investigated by someone... UFO sightings are not uncommon.

I would say that most claims of crimes or evidence of innocence should be investigated. If claims are purposely made that are totally bogus, then there are laws to address that, as well. I consider my complaints and evidence to be reasonable and worthy of a good-faith investigation and response.; December 11, 2016 at 7:39 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"gui, mon ami,

There is only one attorney in this world who I trust explicitly... and he practices in California. As it is, I cannot even find a lawyer in North Carolina who will even write a letter on behalf of Crystal Mangum. Fat chance of me persuading an attorney to run for office. Besides, the case against Mangum is so political, no political-aspiring attorney or politician would advocate for Ms. Mangum for doing so would be political suicide."

So in other words, in response to guiowen's challenge, you are running away and hiding. Shall we call that Harrian integrity? If so, that is the same kind of thing as Nifongian courage which, in turn, is like Hitlerian concern for the welfare of Jewish people.

You should call running and hiding from guiowen's challenge "Harrian intelligence." Clearly expending effort and energy to follow gui's suggestion would be a waste of time, effort, and energy... what he suggests is no small feat. Without doubt, my time can be better spent following the courses in which I am already engaged.; December 11, 2016 at 7:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

How long a time has it been that you cve been saying, "Walt, hopefully within a matter of days or weeks, you will be forced to confront the painful reality (for you) that the wheels of justice will finally engage that prove to undeniably lead to Crystal Mangum's freedom and exoneration. It is only a matter of time... chinks in the armor of injustice will appear and spread with ever increasing rapidity. The floodgates built on perjury, corruption, and deceit cannot hold back the truths in Mangum's case. Justice for Crystal Mangum is inevitable."

What has happened since you gegan saying that?Nothing.

What is going to happen? More nothing.; December 11, 2016 at 8:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Abe, face it! kenhyderal is correct. You and your Mangum-detractor clones, cannot handle the truth. You better brace yourself for the inevitable. Resistance against the truths of Mangum's case is futile."

This from Sidney Harr who for years has tried to pass off falsehood as the truth.; December 11, 2016 at 8:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Walt, are you serious? To say that Crystal Mangum can't be a resident of Wake County because she's there involuntarily? Never heard of such nonsense. If that is truly the case, I would very much require some enlightenment on that matter."

Well, Sidney, you repeatedly promulgate such nonsense as, Crystal was the "Victim/accuser in the Duke Rpe Case(she was the vitimizer/false accuser in the DUKE RAPE HOAX). And you call this information from an experienced lawyer nonsense.

"As far as D.A. Freeman goes, I have gone out of my way not to sully her professional reputation. And I respectfully disagree with your position that she did me no wrong. Without cause, she ignored me... one of her constituents. In effect, she has disenfranchised me with respect to the state's legal system. That is blatantly wrong."

What is blatantly wrong is yourattitude that you have some right to force DA Freeman to intervene in the case of Crystal murdering Reginald Daye. You are just a delusiona;, attention seeking narcicist.; December 11, 2016 at 8:36 AM
guiowen said...: So, Sidney,where are the chinks in the armor?; December 11, 2016 at 8:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Where is the little man, kenhyderal?; December 11, 2016 at 9:33 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal is a troll, ignore him.; December 11, 2016 at 9:33 AM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "Please list the things said and done by the Duke lacrosse defendants and their legal team to discredit Mangum"......Of course they were too crafty and devious to slander and libel her directly. Instead they used forums such as the inappropriately names Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers, Crystal being the supposed liar they were trying to stop, by utilizing hateful people like the mean-spirited, vindictive Joan Foster, to convince people Crystal was mentally unstable, drug-addicted prostitute and a femme fatale who connived to shake-down poor, pure, innocent upright, college boys. Then they got a boon from the revengeful KC Johnson who saw a chance here to discredit his critic Duke President Brodhead.; December 11, 2016 at 9:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Of course, I believe that you have the right to sue President Obama. Of course, I feel that your chances of success are remote. The main question I would ask you is if it is your primary purpose to meet with President Obama, or to report a federal crime?"

Irrelevant question. See below,

'In my situation, reporting a crime (and evidence of post-conviction innocence) is my primary purpose. I have been ignored by everyone. The reason for meeting with someone would be to better present my case. But my inquiries were never met with a response, and no one in the Wake County District Attorney's Office would meet with me. Filing the lawsuit against D.A. Freeman was a last-ditch effort."

You are alleging, without any evidence, that a crime happened,nothig motr. How dors that give you any tight to harass an elected official?

"Hopefully you have been enlightened. Let me know if you require further elucidation."

Someone who is not enlightened and who rejects being elucidated is incapable of providibng enlightenment or elucidation to any other individual.; December 11, 2016 at 11:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Your scenario is lacking in data, which makes your premise more difficult to compute. The only reason for contacting the district attorney would be if the Martian(s) committed a crime. At the very least it should be investigated by someone... UFO sightings are not uncommon."

No it isn't.You are in denial of the fact that you believe that the DA of Wake County, even though she has no jurisdiction in the case, should just accept your allegations at face value and act on them, which is further proof that you are nothing more than a delusional, arrogant, attention seeking narcicist.

"I would say that most claims of crimes or evidence of innocence should be investigated. If claims are purposely made that are totally bogus, then there are laws to address that, as well. I consider my complaints and evidence to be reasonable and worthy of a good-faith investigation and response."

You sure did not think the hard evidence of the innocence of the innocence of the Duke Lacrosse playrts should have been investigated. You still presume them guilty, each and every time ou refer to Crystal Mangum as the "victim/accuser in the Duke Rape Case. She was the victimizer/false accuser in the DUKE RAPE HOAX.; December 11, 2016 at 11:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"You should call running and hiding from guiowen's challenge "Harrian intelligence." Clearly expending effort and energy to follow gui's suggestion would be a waste of time, effort, and energy... what he suggests is no small feat. Without doubt, my time can be better spent following the courses in which I am already engaged."

As Sidney Harr has repeatedly shown he is anything but intelligent,there is no such thing as Harrian intelligence. Sidney Harr runs from Guiowen's challenge because he fears the truth. People who fear the truth do so because they do not tell rhe truth.; December 11, 2016 at 11:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Krnhygeral:

"Abe said: "Please list the things said and done by the Duke lacrosse defendants and their legal team to discredit Mangum"......Of course they were too crafty and devious to slander and libel her directly. Instead they used forums such as the inappropriately names Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers, Crystal being the supposed liar they were trying to stop, by utilizing hateful people like the mean-spirited, vindictive Joan Foster, to convince people Crystal was mentally unstable, drug-addicted prostitute and a femme fatale who connived to shake-down poor, pure, innocent upright, college boys. Then they got a boon from the revengeful KC Johnson who saw a chance here to discredit his critic Duke President Brodhead."

Yet more graphic evidence that Kenhyderal tries to pass off false information as the truth. He lies each and every time he says that he and Sidney tell the truth.

You see how jealous and resentful he is of people like Joan Foster and KC Johnson who tell the truth.; December 11, 2016 at 11:24 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your claim that either the Duke defendants or their defense team did any of things you claim they did to discredit Mangum? Or are you just making it up?

Being a friend of Mangum's, can you tell us what was contained in all the redacted pages of her medical history, if not an extensive record of mental illness?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 11, 2016 at 12:11 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe, you are simply speculating. Anyway, Crystal has the same right as anyone else to have her medical records remain confidential. As a friend I can tell you that her medical history is legally irrelevant with no bearing whatsoever on either her accusation of rape or on her defensive action taken against Daye. By the way "An estimated one in four Americans will experience a mental health disorder, such as depression or anxiety, in a given year"( The National Alliance on Mental Illness) Duke Lacrosse defenders many of them related to Players post on Liestoppers outright lies and wild speculations about Crystal. This was no doubt beneficial in casting doubt upon her accusation and on her character.; December 11, 2016 at 1:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Abe, you are simply speculating. Anyway, Crystal has the same right as anyone else to have her medical records remain confidential. As a friend I can tell you that her medical history is legally irrelevant with no bearing whatsoever on either her accusation of rape or on her defensive action taken against Daye. By the way "An estimated one in four Americans will experience a mental health disorder, such as depression or anxiety, in a given year"( The National Alliance on Mental Illness) Duke Lacrosse defenders many of them related to Players post on Liestoppers outright lies and wild speculations about Crystal. This was no doubt beneficial in casting doubt upon her accusation and on her character."

More graphic evidence that Kenhyderal can not recognize truth. The truth is, Crystal lied about being raped, Crystal was a sex worker, Crystal had a history of Drug abuse, Crystal was a convicted criminal before she falsely accused mrmbers of the Duke Lacrosse team of raping her, and Crystal murdered Reginald Daye.; December 11, 2016 at 4:07 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, are you serious? To say that Crystal Mangum can't be a resident of Wake County because she's there involuntarily? Never heard of such nonsense. If that is truly the case, I would very much require some enlightenment on that matter."

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT [manual buzzer sound] Run him!

Yes, I am serious. You are the poster who is not. That said, for anyone interested, the NC Administrative Code has this helpful definition, one's domicile or residence is: "the place where an individual has a true, fixed permanent home and principal establishment, and to which place, whenever absent, the individual has the intention of returning." While there are those who probably think Crystal is doing life in prison on the installment plan, I gather that she hasn't really made the decision to make prison the place which she always intends to return.

"As far as D.A. Freeman goes, I have gone out of my way not to sully her professional reputation."

You are the one who filed the frivolous lawsuit against her. You are the one who lost that lawsuit and then filed a disciplinary complaint against her without citing even one rule of professional conduct which you allege she violated. Yes, you are the one who has sought o sully her professional reputation.

"And I respectfully disagree with your position that she did me no wrong. Without cause, she ignored me... one of her constituents. In effect, she has disenfranchised me with respect to the state's legal system. That is blatantly wrong."

This has been explained to you time and time again. Freeman has no jurisdiction to file a criminal charge. You have refused to learn. It has been explained to you that only the DA in Durham County can file the charge you seek. Another instance of your refusal to learn. It has been explained to you that you are raising a political question to the courts. One which may only be resolved at the ballot box. Your remedy is not to force a meeting, but to cast your vote against Lorin Freeman. A third instance of your unwillingness to learn. You were given very good advice, which you ignored, to go see your friend Jim Coleman who could help you avoid these misjudgments of yours. But, you did not seek his help.

Walt-in-Durham; December 11, 2016 at 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 20 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 164 days since the end of June, 232 days since April 23rd, 271 days since the Ides of March, 1,115 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,466 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,365 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 12, 2016 at 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Are you claiming that Mangum has no history of mental illness, or that she has a history of mental illness but that it is irrelevant?

If you believe Mangum's mental illness is irrelevant do you believe AG Cooper was wrong not to criminally charge her when his investigation concluded that no crime was committed against her and that she lied about being raped?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 12, 2016 at 3:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Without cause, [DA Freeman] ignored me".

Presuming a fact not in evidence, that you everhad cause to for her to pay attention to you.

As Walt has pointed out, the Wake County DA has no jurisdiction to intervene in a criminal case prosecuted in Durham County.

Also, tou claim you are reporting a claim. I remind you, you repeatedly insist thar Crystal was the victim of a rape by members of the Duke Lacrosse team in the face of a total lack of evidence that the crime ever happened. You insist that when Shan Carter chased down and killed a fleeing Tyrone Baker, in the process killing an innocent child bystander, he was acting in self defense.

That is overwhelming evidence you can not recognize what is or is not criminal.

So why should any DA regard you as credible when you accuse someone of a crime?; December 12, 2016 at 3:56 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

kenny:

Are you claiming that Mangum has no history of mental illness, or that she has a history of mental illness but that it is irrelevant?

If you believe Mangum's mental illness is irrelevant do you believe AG Cooper was wrong not to criminally charge her when his investigation concluded that no crime was committed against her and that she lied about being raped?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

kenhyeral is correct in that Mangum's mental status is not relevant with respect to the murder case because the manner of Reginald Daye's death was not homicidal, but accidental due to malpractice by Duke University Hospital. For the record, however, she is not mentally ill.

As far as charging her with a crime in the Duke Lacrosse case... that's absurd. It has never been proven that Mangum lied about being sexually assaulted. I believe she was... and so does Mike Nifong. Roy Cooper sealed the case and therefore its evidence is unavailable for public analysis... unlike Mangum's case, in which I publicly produced all of the relevant evidence for public consumption.; December 12, 2016 at 6:49 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Walt, are you serious? To say that Crystal Mangum can't be a resident of Wake County because she's there involuntarily? Never heard of such nonsense. If that is truly the case, I would very much require some enlightenment on that matter."

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT [manual buzzer sound] Run him!

Yes, I am serious. You are the poster who is not. That said, for anyone interested, the NC Administrative Code has this helpful definition, one's domicile or residence is: "the place where an individual has a true, fixed permanent home and principal establishment, and to which place, whenever absent, the individual has the intention of returning." While there are those who probably think Crystal is doing life in prison on the installment plan, I gather that she hasn't really made the decision to make prison the place which she always intends to return.

"As far as D.A. Freeman goes, I have gone out of my way not to sully her professional reputation."

You are the one who filed the frivolous lawsuit against her. You are the one who lost that lawsuit and then filed a disciplinary complaint against her without citing even one rule of professional conduct which you allege she violated. Yes, you are the one who has sought o sully her professional reputation.

"And I respectfully disagree with your position that she did me no wrong. Without cause, she ignored me... one of her constituents. In effect, she has disenfranchised me with respect to the state's legal system. That is blatantly wrong."

This has been explained to you time and time again. Freeman has no jurisdiction to file a criminal charge. You have refused to learn. It has been explained to you that only the DA in Durham County can file the charge you seek. Another instance of your refusal to learn. It has been explained to you that you are raising a political question to the courts. One which may only be resolved at the ballot box. Your remedy is not to force a meeting, but to cast your vote against Lorin Freeman. A third instance of your unwillingness to learn. You were given very good advice, which you ignored, to go see your friend Jim Coleman who could help you avoid these misjudgments of yours. But, you did not seek his help.

Walt-in-Durham

Hah, Walt. You are very liberal in your interpretation of the law. Answer me this: What county, if any, is Crystal Mangum currently a resident?; December 12, 2016 at 6:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, here is your answer:

https://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/news/2010/03/26/hall/; December 12, 2016 at 7:06 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney, here is your answer:

https://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/news/2010/03/26/hall/

Thanks for the enlightenment... as absurd as it sounds, Walt, I grant that you are correct on this issue.

However, that Mangum's residence is considered to be a Durham resident, it has no bearing on my relationship with D.A. Freeman... ergo, my jurisdiction is still valid in my case against Freeman. That's the bottom line.

But thank you for the informative link. Consider me elucidated.; December 12, 2016 at 8:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"As far as charging her with a crime in the Duke Lacrosse case... that's absurd. It has never been proven that Mangum lied about being sexually assaulted. I believe she was... and so does Mike Nifong."

I understand your position. However, Roy Cooper in his report concluded that no crime had been committed against Mangum. He implied that Mangum's mental health issues were the reason he did not charge her criminally with making a false report. That being the case, do you believe he erred in considering Mangum's mental health situation in making a determination not to charge her with a crime?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 12, 2016 at 8:24 AM
kenhyderal said...: No, Cooper knew better then that. He realized in no way could he prove Crystal had not been sexually assaulted. But, to add credence to his proclamation of innocence and to assuage the cries for revenge by the entitled Lacrosse Team against Crystal, a person who dared to stand up against them, he used a purported mental illness as his excuse. Crystal did, however, experience post traumatic stress after her ordeal and the subsequent public trashing of her by the Duke Lacrosse Defence; December 12, 2016 at 10:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidnet Harr:

"kenhyeral is correct in that Mangum's mental status is not relevant with respect to the murder case because the manner of Reginald Daye's death was not homicidal, but accidental due to malpractice by Duke University Hospital. For the record, however, she is not mentally ill."

First off, Kenhyderal has never been correct about anything in his life, e.g. Kenhyderal maintained that Mike Nifong did not charge the Lacrosse defendants with rape. Crystal did murder Reginald Daye. And, with your total lack of clinical expertise and clinical competence, you are not at all competent to say that the death of Reginals=d Daye was accidental or due to malpractice.

"As far as charging her with a crime in the Duke Lacrosse case... that's absurd. It has never been proven that Mangum lied about being sexually assaulted. I believe she was... and so does Mike Nifong."

Irrelevant statement. That no one has proven Crystal lied means nothing. To prove a rape, it was up to Mike Nifong to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she told the truth. There is zero evidence she ever told the truth. You have provided none. Your claim that AG Cooper sealed the case file, which translates into a claim that evidence was concealed, is but more evidence that you do not tell the truth. The details of the case have been a part of the public record, ever since DA Nifong's ethics trial.

"Roy Cooper sealed the case and therefore its evidence is unavailable for public analysis..."

Your claim that AG Cooper sealed the case file, which translates into a claim that evidence was concealed, is but more evidence that you do not tell the truth. The details of the case have been a part of the public record, ever since DA Nifong's ethics trial.

"unlike Mangum's case, in which I publicly produced all of the relevant evidence for public consumption."

What you have presented are not facts but baseless speculation based on your absolutely total lack pf clinical competence.; December 12, 2016 at 10:25 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny,

You continue to avoid the question.

Was Cooper right or wrong to consider Mangum's mental health history in making a charging decision?

And again, can you name a single instance where the Duke lacrosse defendants or any member of their defense team trashed Mangum? If not, why do you continue to lie about it? Do you think lying helps Mangum? If so, how? If not, then why do it?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 12, 2016 at 10:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr
:

"Hah, Walt. You are very liberal in your interpretation of the law."

Harr, Walt is entirely correct. More evidence that you are incapable of telling the truth.

"Answer me this: What county, if any, is Crystal Mangum currently a resident?"

You answer this: how does one establish a legal residence. As Walt has explained, by citing a resource, Being involuntarily incarcerated in a prison does not. Cite a resource which establishes that Crystal's incarceration legally establishes her residence as Wake County. If you want to cite the precedent of common sense, that is but an admission you can not cite any legal precedent.; December 12, 2016 at 10:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Hatt:

"However, that Mangum's residence is considered to be a Durham resident, it has no bearing on my relationship with D.A. Freeman... ergo, my jurisdiction is still valid in my case against Freeman. That's the bottom line."

How about you explain what you mean by your jurisdiction.

from http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1070:

"jurisdiction
n. the authority given by law to a court to try cases and rule on legal matters within a particular geographic area and/or over certain types of legal cases."

The last time anyone checked, you are neither a court nor an officer of any couty.; December 12, 2016 at 10:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

Are you saying that the redacted pages of Mangum's medical records have nothing to do with her mental health or her treatment for mental illness?

Have you even seen the redacted pages, or have personal knowledge of what is in them? If not, what is the basis for your conclusion that Mangum is not mentally ill?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"No...He realized in no way could he prove Crystal had not been sexually assaulted."

More evidence of your incredible stupidity. In a case like Crystal's, the prosecution had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Crystal was sexually assaulted. There was zero evidence that Crystal told the truth that she was assaulted. You have speculated as to why there was no evidence, as if that establishes that there was evidence. It does not. You have quoted this, that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. That statement is meaningless, as are most of your speculation. Absence of evidence is absence of evidence, nothing more. And that does meant, in this specific case, no crimehad happened.

"But, to add credence to his proclamation of innocence and to assuage the cries for revenge by the entitled Lacrosse Team against Crystal, a person who dared to stand up against them, he used a purported mental illness as his excuse."

Meaningless statement, as are most of your statements. There were no cries for revenge fromthe Lacrosse defendants or their families. You can cite no specific examples.

"Crystal did, however, experience post traumatic stress after her ordeal"

Maybe she did. But the ordeal she suffered was that her lies wrtr exposed, and she could not force the rich white boys to pay her off. Mist have been very traumatic when Willy Gary told her she had no case, or when she made almost zero money fromthe compendium of lies which was published as The Last Dance for Grace, peobably afyer Vincent Clark assured her she would get rich.

"and the subsequent public trashing of her by the Duke Lacrosse Defence".

How about you cite specific examples. How could the Duke Lacrosse Defense attorneys trash her when her identity had been concealed until after AG Cooper dismissed the charges. Cite specific examples of posts on Liestoppers which trashed Crystal.

Yet more graphic evidence that Kenhyderal does not know the truth.; December 12, 2016 at 10:58 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " Cite specific examples of posts on Liestoppers which trashed Crystal"........................Wha ! Specific examples? The entire blog (Note it's name Duke Lacrosse LIESTOPPERS) is devoted to convincing people that Crystal lied. They've called her every vile name imaginable. I can't even bring myself to type their filth even as as a quote.; December 12, 2016 at 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal,

It has been proven that Mangum lied about being raped/sexually assaulted at the Duke lacrosse party. No additional lies by you can change that.; December 12, 2016 at 4:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"nhyderal said...

Anonymous said: " Cite specific examples of posts on Liestoppers which trashed Crystal"........................Wha ! Specific examples? The entire blog (Note it's name Duke Lacrosse LIESTOPPERS) is devoted to convincing people that Crystal lied. They've called her every vile name imaginable. I can't even bring myself to type their filth even as as a quote."

Kenhyderal admits he can not cite any specific examples in which anyone on Liestoppers ever trashing Crystal Mangum.

Kenhyderal therefore admits he does not tell the truth.; December 12, 2016 at 4:27 PM
JSwift said...: Anonymous 4:23 stated: It has been proven that Mangum lied about being raped/sexually assaulted at the Duke lacrosse party.

I disagree. It has been proven only that Magnum made false accusations about being raped/sexually at the Duke lacrosse party. Although that is probably true that she lied, I am willing to consider Cooper's suggestion that Magnum had mental issues and may have actually believed those accusations.

Kenny stated: The entire blog (Note it's name Duke Lacrosse LIESTOPPERS) is devoted to convincing people that Crystal lied.

This statement is false. The blog's primary purpose was convincing people that Mangum's allegations were false and that Nifong was attempting to frame innocent defendants. Although most posters were convinced Magnum lied and criticized her harshly, a significant number of posters were willing to accept Cooper's explanation of mental and did not focus primarily on Magnum.

The most frequent targets of criticism were Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan. Nifong's decision to prosecute with what he later conceded was no credible evidence was inexcusable. Even if Magnum lied, Nifong should declined to prosecute without a bona fide investigation. This not the first time a prosecutor has fielded a false accusation.

The "lies" in "Liestoppers" also refer to lies told by Nifong, Gottlieb, Himan, Levicy, Meehan, Brodhead, the Gang of 88, much of the media (e.g., Nancy Grace, Duff Wilson) and many, many others.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; December 12, 2016 at 5:03 PM
kenhyderal said...: JSwift said: The "lies" in "Liestoppers" also refer to lies told by Nifong, Gottlieb, Himan, Levicy, Meehan, Brodhead, the Gang of 88, much of the media (e.g., Nancy Grace, Duff Wilson) and many, many others""................... Yeah, yeah everybody lied except the angelic Duke Lacrosse Players; December 12, 2016 at 8:53 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Kenhyderal admits he can not cite any specific examples in which anyone on Liestoppers ever trashing Crystal Mangum".....................................You're wrong and it's obvious you have not read the blog carefully or objectively. But, if you are so open-minded just google Liestoppers-Crystal-Baldo or Liestoppers-Crystal Joan Foster or Liestoppers- Crystal-Quasi... Payback.... etc. etc. Often they don't even use her baptized name but refer to this young Mother with a disgusting, racist, misogynist perjorative; December 12, 2016 at 9:07 PM
Anonymous said...: :Kenhydera:

"JSwift said: The "lies" in "Liestoppers" also refer to lies told by Nifong, Gottlieb, Himan, Levicy, Meehan, Brodhead, the Gang of 88, much of the media (e.g., Nancy Grace, Duff Wilson) and many, many others""................... Yeah, yeah everybody lied except the angelic Duke Lacrosse Players".

Provide evidence that the Lacrosse players perpetrated a sexual assault against Crystal. So far, rhe only thing for which you have provided evidence is how far out of joint your nose is that Crystal was not raped. What gratification do you get from believing she was?; December 13, 2016 at 3:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 19 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 165 days since the end of June, 233 days since April 23rd, 272 days since the Ides of March, 1,116 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,467 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,364 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 13, 2016 at 3:04 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhtderal:

"Anonymous said: "Kenhyderal admits he can not cite any specific examples in which anyone on Liestoppers ever trashing Crystal Mangum".....................................You're wrong and it's obvious you have not read the blog carefully or objectively."

No, I am correct. You were challenged to cite specific examples of Lirstoppers trashing Crystal Mangum. You did not. You just ranted and raved about how evil Liestoppers is.

But, if you are so open-minded just google Liestoppers-Crystal-Baldo or Liestoppers-Crystal Joan Foster or Liestoppers- Crystal-Quasi... Payback.... etc. etc. Often they don't even use her baptized name but refer to this young Mother with a disgusting, racist, misogynist perjorative"

I have visited Liestoppers frequently. Liestoppers does noy trash Crystal. Liestoppers' exposing the truth, that Crystal LIED about being raped is not trashing Crystal.

You obviously get some gratification from believing Crustal was raped. Why?; December 13, 2016 at 3:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

http://liestoppers.blogspot.com/2009/09/curious-case-of-crystal-mangums-sexual.html

A post in Liestoppers which details Tara Levicy's improper actions when she assisted in evaluating Crystal.

Is this what you mean when you say Liestoppers trashed Crystal-noting the evaluation un te Er revealed no evidence of rape>

What gratification do you get from believing she was raped?; December 13, 2016 at 3:41 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"But, if you are so open-minded just google Liestoppers-Crystal-Baldo or Liestoppers-Crystal Joan Foster or Liestoppers- Crystal-Quasi... Payback.... etc. etc. Often they don't even use her baptized name but refer to this young Mother with a disgusting, racist, misogynist perjorative"

Just another failure on the part of Kenhyderal to cite specific instances of Liestoppers trashing Crystal.; December 13, 2016 at 4:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny: But, if you are so open-minded just google Liestoppers-Crystal-Baldo or Liestoppers-Crystal Joan Foster or Liestoppers- Crystal-Quasi... Payback.... etc. etc. Often they don't even use her baptized name but refer to this young Mother with a disgusting, racist, misogynist pejorative

I googled all those combinations. I found no "disgusting, racist, misogynist perjoratives."; December 13, 2016 at 5:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

This from Sidney:

"As far as D.A. Freeman goes, I have gone out of my way not to sully her professional reputation."

Read what Walt said about Sidney going out of his way not to besmirch DA Freeman's reputation.

You call Sidney someone who tells the truth. Sidney incapable of telling himself the truth. So where do you get the belief that he can tell anyone else the truth?; December 13, 2016 at 6:38 AM
JSwift said...: Kenny:

In your 8:53 reply to me, you demonstrate yet again your complete unwillingness to have an honest discussion with someone who disagrees with you.

You resorted to hyperbole in your description of the Liestoppers Forum, describing it incorrectly as devoted to convincing people that Magnum lied. I noted that the forum was devoted to the broader objective of convincing people that the lacrosse players were innocent of the horrific charges of which they had been accused and that Nifong and the DPD were attempting to frame innocent defendants.

You are correct that some commenters "trashed" Magnum. Indeed, the anonymous commenter here who denies that is incorrect. Those comments, however, were not the focus of the Liestoppers forum. The commenters you named are not the commenters who "trashed" Magnum using "disgusting, racist, misogynist pejoratives."

Finally, in your comment to me, you resort to a straw man argument. A straw man argument is an intellectually dishonest rhetorical device. I have never taken the position that the players were "angels" as you dishonestly suggest. More broadly, few comments on the forum took the position that the players were "angels" as you dishonestly suggest. Indeed, they received criticism for holding a tasteless party.

I have asked that you refrain from using intellectual dishonest arguments when replying to me. Once again, you refused my request.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; December 13, 2016 at 7:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Gee,

"You have 19 days to exonerate and free Mangum."

Sad to see it end by Abe. But over this time and with all the discussion, I feel like the boy in the below story and Sidney as the mouse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyk55GYnGl0; December 13, 2016 at 2:19 PM
guiowen said...: JSwift,
Kenhyderal is just very angry that the lax players were exonerated. So he claims that they were proclained angels, as a way of showing his disgust.; December 13, 2016 at 2:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal deeply resents Caucasian men who are more accomplished and better off than he is.; December 13, 2016 at 2:40 PM
kenhyderal said...: John D Said: " I noted that the forum was devoted to the broader objective of convincing people that the lacrosse players were innocent of the horrific charges of which they had been accused and that Nifong and the DPD were attempting to frame innocent defendants".................... They are not accusing Nifong and DPD or Levicy of lying but of believing Crystal. They have wildly speculated about motives of these individuals. Nifong, for political advantage, DPD to conceal corrupt practices, Levicy for misandry. Bottom line is the raison d'etre for Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers is to convince that Crystal lied; December 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM
JSwift said...: Kenny stated: They are not accusing Nifong and DPD or Levicy of lying but of believing Crystal.

You misunderstand much of the discussion on that forum. While a majority of posters concluded that Mangum lied, others accepted her alleged mental impairment as a mitigating factor. With either explanation for her false accusation, Nifong's prosecution with no credible evidence attracted the vast majority of the criticism.

Few have concluded that Nifong, Gottlieb or Himan actually believed Mangum. Their actions were not consistent with belief that Mangum had been raped as she claimed. The DPD's failure to conduct a bona fide investigation and Nifong's failure to demand one is indicative either of gross incompetence or willful malfeasance. They made far too many "mistakes" to accept incompetence as a credible explanation.

There is no evidence that Nifong actually believed Mangum except for his statements. Nifong, as a convicted liar, is not entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

However, I congratulate you on a post that permits discussion.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; December 13, 2016 at 3:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"They are not accusing Nifong and DPD or Levicy of lying but of believing Crystal. They have wildly speculated about motives of these individuals. Nifong, for political advantage, DPD to conceal corrupt practices, Levicy for misandry. Bottom line is the raison d'etre for Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers is to convince that Crystal lied".

Yrt more fraphic evidence that Krnhyderal can not recognize the truth.

The truth is, Crystal DID lie about being raped. There was no evidence a rape had happened.; December 13, 2016 at 4:03 PM
kenhyderal said...: John D said: "While a majority of posters concluded that Mangum lied, others accepted her alleged mental impairment as a mitigating factor" .................... Just one more attempt to discredit a person who reported she had been raped. She's a liar, she's crazy, she's an addict she's immoral. Always trash the victim in any and every way possible. It's an effective strategy. As well try and destroy the credibility of any and all who believe her.; December 13, 2016 at 4:49 PM
JSwift said...: Kenny,

Her specific allegation has been proven false. The explanations are (1) she lied; (2) she is mentally disturbed; and (3) she confused specific details during a traumatic experience.

There is no credible evidence to support (3) and much to contradict it. After reviewing her medical file, Cooper expressed support for (2). If one does not accept (2), the only remaining explanation is that she lied.

i do not accept your theory that Nifong and the DPD believed her accusation. There is no credible evidence to support that theory.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; December 13, 2016 at 5:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"John D said: "While a majority of posters concluded that Mangum lied, others accepted her alleged mental impairment as a mitigating factor" .................... Just one more attempt to discredit a person who reported she had been raped. She's a liar, she's crazy, she's an addict she's immoral. Always trash the victim in any and every way possible. It's an effective strategy. As well try and destroy the credibility of any and all who believe her."

Correction:

Crystal did not report a rape. She was taken to the Durham access center ffor involuntary commitment because she was intoxicated. There, a nurse asked her if she had been raped and Crystal said, Yes. As the evidence, or lack thereof subsequently proved, she lied.

Subsequently the public learned that she did have a problem with drugs, that she had worked for an escort agency meeting men, for what certainly was not for just innocent entertainment, that she was promiscuous, 3 children with 3 different men, the last one conceived only a few weeks after she had, according to Kenhyderal, been brutally raped, and she had become a convicted criminal before she ever falsely claimed she had been raped.

Yet more graphic evidence that Kenhyderal, who has claimed he and Sidney tell the truth, does not know what the truth is.

This is Kenhyderal who once maintained that DA Nifong did not have the Lacrosse defendants charged with rape.; December 13, 2016 at 5:37 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Subsequently the public learned that she did have a problem with drugs, that she had worked for an escort agency meeting men, for what certainly was not for just innocent entertainment, that she was promiscuous, 3 children with 3 different men, the last one conceived only a few weeks after she had, according to Kenhyderal, been brutally raped, and she had become a convicted criminal before she ever falsely claimed she had been raped........................................ . Crystal has never used illicit drugs. She never engaged in prostitution. Two of her children were with Richard Ramseier and her youngest daughter with her then boyfriend Matt Murchison. Her short marriage at 18 to Kenneth McNeill, 14 years her senior ended after 17 months.; December 13, 2016 at 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 18 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 166 days since the end of June, 234 days since April 23rd, 273 days since the Ides of March, 1,117 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,468 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,363 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 14, 2016 at 3:04 AM
Anonymous said...: ?Kenhyderal:

"Crystal has never used illicit drugs. She never engaged in prostitution. Two of her children were with Richard Ramseier and her youngest daughter with her then boyfriend Matt Murchison. Her short marriage at 18 to Kenneth McNeill, 14 years her senior ended after 17 months."

More graphic evidence that Krnhyderal does notrecognize the truth.; December 14, 2016 at 3:59 AM
Anonymous said...: More for Kenhyderal, with regard to "one more attempt to discredit [Crystal Mangum who] reported she had been raped

Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gh8oGF4iXQ, a video describing how the Duke Rape Hoax imploded.

Crystal got into Kim Roberts/Pittman's car and they left the house on Buchanan Avenue. Kim called 911 and reported that while she and her girlfriend were either walking or driving by the house, someone called them "n----rs". Kim did not report that Crystal had bee raped. She did not drive Crystal to a police station or to a hospital but to a supermarket where she asked a security guard to force Crystal to get out of her car. Crystal never mentioned nothing about rape to anyone until she was taken to the Durham access center. There, a nurse asked her if she had been raped. Crystal never thought about rape until this nurse mentioned it.

Again, Kenhyderal gives testimony which shows Kenhyderal does not know and never did know what the truth of the Duke Rape Hoax was.; December 14, 2016 at 6:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Correction:

. Crystal never mentioned ANYTHING about rape to anyone until she was taken to the Durham access center.; December 14, 2016 at 6:45 AM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "Just one more attempt to discredit a person who reported she had been raped."

No. Crystal had not been raped. You are mistaking the legitimate effort to discredit her claim. A claim with was not true, by the way.

"Crystal has never used illicit drugs."

Possible. Her behavior is also consistent with mixing prescription medication with alcohol.

"She never engaged in prostitution."

The facts speak otherwise.

Walt-in-Durham; December 14, 2016 at 8:10 AM
kenhyderal said...: Those facts being?; December 14, 2016 at 8:52 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 6:38:.......... Keep in mind Crystal had been drugged and was still fully impaired; most probably with the quickly incapacitating but short acting date rape drug Chloral Hydrate (once called knock out drops), well known by sexual predators as difficult to trace. Roberts wanted to get rid of Crystal and having parole problems wanted to get away from any interaction with DCP. Supposedly she herself unlike some of the Players and Guests did not witness the rape; December 14, 2016 at 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Those facts being?"

The exam of Crystal's rape kit turned up DNA from multiple males on Crstal's person. It has been proven with 100% certainty that the DNA did not get there after the Lacrosse party. There is zero evidence it got there during the party. It could have gotten there only before the party. That means Crystal had sex with multiple males before the party. Crystal was working for an escort agency, getting paid for meeting with multiple males before the party. That does not spell out rape at the party. All that spells out Crystal was a prostitute.

Let me borrow something from your idol Sidney. If it wasn't prostitution, then what was it? How did the male DNA get on Crystal's person.

You have provided zero evidence it ever happened at the party.; December 14, 2016 at 9:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"@ Anonymous 6:38:.......... Keep in mind Crystal had been drugged and was still fully impaired; most probably with the quickly incapacitating but short acting date rape drug Chloral Hydrate (once called knock out drops), well known by sexual predators as difficult to trace. Roberts wanted to get rid of Crystal and having parole problems wanted to get away from any interaction with DCP. Supposedly she herself unlike some of the Players and Guests did not witness the rape".

Kenhyderal again provides graphic evidence he does not know the truth.

Crystal was impaired when she arrived at the party. Crystal admitted to drinking a total of 44 ounces of beer and then taking flexeril before the party, a combination which leaves a person impaired. Even without the flexeril, that much alcohol would have rendered her impaired.

Chloral Hydrate is not readily available. It can be synthesized,by people with a bit of knowledge of chemistry and with equipment. Did anyone at the party have the capability to synthesize the substance. Did the police search of the house turn up any evidence of chloral hydrate? There is no record of it.

Kenhyderal's argument is, because Chloral Hydrate is not easily detectable, that is evidence it was used. It is something similar to Kenhyderal's delusion,that because he can speculate on why evidence was not there, that establishes evidence was there. Another demonstration of Kenhyderal's inability to recognize truth.; December 14, 2016 at 9:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Kehyderal:

What is wrong with your scenario regarding Crystal in Kim's car:

Crystal could have told Kim she had been raped and she could have asked Kimto take her to a Hospital or to a Police Station. She did not.

At the Supermarket, the security guard called a police officer to remove Crystal ftom Kim's car. She could have told the police officer she ad been raped. instead she feigned unconsciousness and resisted his attempts to remove her from Kim's car.

Why?

Whatever the reason, Crystal never thought of rape until the word was used by a nurse at the Durham access center.

Again you have no comprehension of wgat the truth was.; December 14, 2016 at 10:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Supposedly [Kim Pittman/Roberts] herself unlike some of the Players and Guests did not witness the rape".

More graphic evidence that you can not comprehend truth. There was no rape to be witnessed.; December 14, 2016 at 11:00 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous@ 9:43 said: "Kenhyderal's argument is, because Chloral Hydrate is not easily detectable, that is evidence it was used. It is something similar to Kenhyderal's delusion,that because he can speculate on why evidence was not there, that establishes evidence was there......................No, evidence it was used is Crystal's sudden precipitous impairment, minutes after taking the drink offered to her by Dan Flannery alias Dan Flanigan. One sip caused her to become instantly impaired. She even dropped the half consumed glass. Both Bissey and Roberts as well as her driver Taylor testified that she was not in anyway impaired upon her arrival. Characteristic of chloral, hydrate is it's short action and it's sudden and complete rapid recovery as the body metabolizes the last of it. Crystal experienced such a quick recovery. They did not find her to be impaired by the time she reached the Access Center; December 14, 2016 at 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...: K>enhyderal:

"No, evidence [Chloral Hydrate] was used is Crystal's sudden precipitous impairment, minutes after taking the drink offered to her by Dan Flannery alias Dan Flanigan."

No it isn't. None of the witnesses you cited saw how Crystal was acting when she entered the house. The Lacrosse players' statements to the police were she was impaired when she arrived at the house. You call those statement self serving, based on your presuming that a rape took place. There was no evidence a rape ever took place.

"They did not find her to be impaired by the time she reached the Access Center"

Wrong. That she was taken to the Durham Access Center was that the investigating officer believed she was impaired.

You again show you are incapable of recognizing the truth.; December 14, 2016 at 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Actually the opinion of someone with zero clinical training and zero clinical experience does not add up to evidence that Chloral Hydrate was used, even if you are still on top of your turnip truck.; December 14, 2016 at 5:36 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid said:

"As far as charging her with a crime in the Duke Lacrosse case... that's absurd. It has never been proven that Mangum lied about being sexually assaulted. I believe she was... and so does Mike Nifong."

I understand your position. However, Roy Cooper in his report concluded that no crime had been committed against Mangum. He implied that Mangum's mental health issues were the reason he did not charge her criminally with making a false report. That being the case, do you believe he erred in considering Mangum's mental health situation in making a determination not to charge her with a crime?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Cooper had no knowledge of Mangum's mental condition to begin with as he's no psychologist/psychiatrist. He didn't charge her with a crime because she did not commit a crime. It has been proven that many sexual assault victims have difficulty in recounting their traumatic attack... but that does not mean they are lying. The SBI investigation by the Attorney General's Office into the Duke Lacrosse case was slipshod; if any was even done.; December 14, 2016 at 7:55 PM
JSwift said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; December 14, 2016 at 8:41 PM
JSwift said...: Sidney:

Your 7:55 comment is filled with irrelevant detail and assertions unsupported with the facts.

Cooper had no knowledge of Mangum's mental condition to begin with as he's no psychologist/psychiatrist.

No he is not a psychologist/psychiatrist. He had Mangum's file available to him and had experts available. If you have not read Mangu's medical file, you are in no position to offer any opinion.

He didn't charge her with a crime because she did not commit a crime.

Her initial accusation was false. It has been proven false It is inconsistent with other evidence and other testimony and her different versions are inconsistent with each other. There are three explanations: (1) she lied; (2) she is delusional and (3) the was confused as a result of a traumatic experience.

It has been proven that many sexual assault victims have difficulty in recounting their traumatic attack... but that does not mean they are lying.

This is correct, but just because an alleged victim makes an allegation does not make her an actual victim. In this case, not only was there no evidence to support Mangum's allegation, there was significant evidence to contradict it. There is no credible evidence that Magnum was raped or sexually assaulted at the party by anyone. None.

The SBI investigation by the Attorney General's Office into the Duke Lacrosse case was slipshod; if any was even done.

The case was reinvestigated by the special prosecutors, not the SBI. You have provided no detail to back up this assertion. What was slipshod? The summary provided a list of the evidence they considered. Are you claiming they lied in the summary? On what basis do you make that claim?

If you find the special prosecutors' investigation to be "slipshod," how who you describe the investigation conducted by the Durham Police and overseen by Mike Nifong? I have some questions about that investigation. Perhaps you can answer them--or, even better, ask Nifong to answer my questions.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; December 14, 2016 at 8:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidnet Harr:

"
Cooper had no knowledge of Mangum's mental condition to begin with as he's no psychologist/psychiatrist. He didn't charge her with a crime because she did not commit a crime. It has been proven that many sexual assault victims have difficulty in recounting their traumatic attack... but that does not mean they are lying. The SBI investigation by the Attorney General's Office into the Duke Lacrosse case was slipshod; if any was even done."

Sidney Harr provides graphic evidence he does not comprehend what truth is.; December 15, 2016 at 3:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 17 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 167 days since the end of June, 235 days since April 23rd, 274 days since the Ides of March, 1,118 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,469 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,362 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 15, 2016 at 3:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"Cooper had no knowledge of Mangum's mental condition to begin with as he's no psychologist/psychiatrist. He didn't charge her with a crime because she did not commit a crime. It has been proven that many sexual assault victims have difficulty in recounting their traumatic attack... but that does not mean they are lying. The SBI investigation by the Attorney General's Office into the Duke Lacrosse case was slipshod; if any was even done."

You continue to avoid answering my question.

In his report Cooper concluded that no crime had been committed against Mangum at the Duke lacrosse party. That means that Mangum's rape claim was false. Because of that, Cooper not only declined to prosecute, he took the extraordinary step of declaring the falsely accused defendants innocent. Cooper went on to imply that Mangum's mental health issues were the reason he did not charge her criminally with making a false report. Do you believe Cooper erred in considering Mangum's mental health situation in making a determination not to charge her with a crime?

Also, have you seen the redacted pages of Mangum's medical history? On what basis do you make the determination that Mangum is not mentally ill? Are you claiming that to your knowledge Mangum has never been treated for mental illness?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 15, 2016 at 4:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey Sidney Harr:

Matbe YOU can explain why you and your disciple Kenhyderal get such gratification from believing Crystal Mangum was rape.; December 15, 2016 at 5:35 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " None of the witnesses you cited saw how Crystal was acting when she entered the house. The Lacrosse players' statements to the police were she was impaired when she arrived at the house"........................................ Kim's statement to DPD "At about 11:30 Precious arrived and came to the back where we met for the first time. I waited outside and she went inside to collect her money. She showed me her payment ($400.00) and we went straight the bathroom where my outfit was to change clothes. Precious came with her dancing gear on and did not need to change. We conversed about our plan for the dance. There was a knock on the door and we were handed two drinks of equal amounts. We did sip the drinks, but Precious cup fell into the sink. We finished getting dressed and proceeded to the living room, led by Dan, to do our show. There were about 20-25 young guys there, who were all sitting down. Precious and I began our show which, in my opinion, seemed to be going well. Precious began showing signs of intoxication at this point. We continued with the performance until one of the boys brought out a broomstick and after asking if we had any toys, said he would use the broomstick on us. Jason Bissey's Police Statement "A very brief conversation between the two women ensued, which I observed by switching to another chair on my porch. The more conservatively dressed woman noticed me at least once, when we made eye contact. She was speaking to the more proactively-dressed woman in a tone that I deduced through body language to be a sort of coaching, as if she was preparing her for something that she herself was comfortable with, but needed to talk the woman with the short skirt though it. I did not overhear any specific words at that time. Twice that I noticed during this conversation, a man or two different men opened the back door of 610 and spoke to the women, and the more conservatively dressed woman responded both times something to the effect that they would "be right there," or "just give us a minute. Hindman's notes "3/21/06 - Contacted Brian Taylor 12/4/78 (490-8858) Calibre Park Drive apartment 105 reference this case. He states that he drove the victim to her function that night. He stated that she brought over three beers and he only sees her drink about a half of one. He stated that there were no drugs and he does not know her to take any drugs. He stated she takes a shower at his place and then they leave for her function about 1040 pm. He states his relationship is just friends and nothing more than that. He states he has known the victim for about a year and half.; December 15, 2016 at 10:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Krnhyderal:

"s. We did sip the drinks, but Precious cup fell into the sink. We finished getting dressed and proceeded to the living room, led by Dan, to do our show. There were about 20-25 young guys there, who were all sitting down. Precious and I began our show which, in my opinion, seemed to be going well. Precious began showing signs of intoxication at this point. We continued with the performance until one of the boys brought out a broomstick and after asking if we had any toys, said he would use the broomstick on us."

You said Crystal drank part of er drink and then dropped it. According to this statement, she sipped it then dropped it. Can we say inconsistent, boys and girls?

"Jason Bissey's Police Statement "A very brief conversation between the two women ensued, which I observed by switching to another chair on my porch. The more conservatively dressed woman noticed me at least once, when we made eye contact. She was speaking to the more proactively-dressed woman in a tone that I deduced through body language to be a sort of coaching, as if she was preparing her for something that she herself was comfortable with, but needed to talk the woman with the short skirt though it. I did not overhear any specific words at that time. Twice that I noticed during this conversation, a man or two different men opened the back door of 610 and spoke to the women, and the more conservatively dressed woman responded both times something to the effect that they would "be right there," or "just give us a minute."

Bissey did not say he observed Ceystal's behavior after she entered the house.

"Hindman's notes "3/21/06 - Contacted Brian Taylor 12/4/78 (490-8858) Calibre Park Drive apartment 105 reference this case. He states that he drove the victim to her function that night. He stated that she brought over three beers and he only sees her drink about a half of one."

Crystal admitted she drank two 22 ounce cans of beer.

"He stated that there were no drugs and he does not know her to take any drugs."

So? Crystal admitted she took flexeril on top of drinking atotal of 44 ounces of Beer. Even without the flexeril that would have been enough to more the lrgal limit fotr intoxication. People who take Flexeril are cautioned not to Drink alcohol.

"He stated she takes a shower at his place and then they leave for her function about 1040 pm. He states his relationship is just friends and nothing more than that. He states he has known the victim for about a year and half."

Still no evidence he ever saw her after she entered the house. Hinman has been cited as one of te Durham cops who "cooperated" with Nifong's agenda, to pin the non existent crime on members of the Lacriosse team, just about as non credible as Mark Gottlieb.

You again shoe you can not comprehend the truth.

I ask again, what gratification do you get from believing Crystal was raped, in view of the total lack of evidence that she was raped.; December 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM
Anonymous said...: I ask again, what gratification do you get from believing Crystal was raped, in view of the total lack of evidence that she was raped.

You keep asking that - the answer is obvious and has been pointed out - Kenny is an abuser of women, and he likes seeing Crystal abused. It's why he keeps encouraging Sid to lie to Crystal and keep hurting her - it's strictly emotional abuse. He clearly enjoys fantasizing about Crystal being hurt and abused.; December 15, 2016 at 2:10 PM
kenhyderal said...: JSwift As an amateur logician fond of dissecting my arguments can you comment on the last two responses to my post about whether Crystal was seen to be intoxicated buy non-suspects upon her arrival.; December 15, 2016 at 3:58 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: Crystal admitted she drank two 22 ounce cans of beer." . That was two and a half hours before she arrived at the house. Flexeril was a prescribed medication to be routinely taken by her prior to a dance performance. Too bad the only physician, Doctor Anonymous with a bias against Crystal, expresses the opinion that this was the cause of Crystal's impairment. Such an impairment had not happened before to her while doing the same thing. I'm sure a non-biased physician would concede that although alcohol can potentiate the sedative effects of Flexeril Two beers two and an half hours prior would not explain the near unconscious state that precipitously developed in Crystal only after consuming a drink given to her at the house. Think date-rape drug friends.; December 15, 2016 at 4:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Whether the Flexeril is prescribed or not, it is an intoxicant, especially if you combine it with alcohol.; December 15, 2016 at 4:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"JSwift As an amateur logician fond of dissecting my arguments can you comment on the last two responses to my post about whether Crystal was seen to be intoxicated buy non-suspects upon her arrival."

As it was established beyond a doubt that no rape had happened, and this was established within less than two weeks after the incident, any suspect was a falsely accused suspect. Ergo, none of the people Kenny mislables as suspects. as suspects had no self serving motive to say she was impaired. None of the non lacrosse player witnesses witnessed how she was acting after she entered the house.

Kenhyderal again documents he is afraid of the truth.; December 15, 2016 at 4:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Vincent Clark, a friend who co-authored Mangum's self-published memoir, said he hoped people would not rush to judge her. He said Mangum realises she has mental health problems: "I'm sad for her. I hope people realise how difficult it is being her," he added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/19/duke-lacrosse-crystal-mangum-charged-murder

As her publicist, Clark has spent far more time with Crystal recently than Kenny "Turnip Truck" Edwrds.; December 15, 2016 at 4:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"That was two and a half hours before she arrived at the house. Flexeril was a prescribed medication to be routinely taken by her prior to a dance performance. Too bad the only physician, Doctor Anonymous with a bias against Crystal, expresses the opinion that this was the cause of Crystal's impairment."

False.

People did note that Crystal admitted consuming two 22 ounce cans of beer( what Kenhyderal calls "a beer" is a 12 ounce can). If Dr. A is the only physician who thinks that the 44 ounce beer/Flexeril combination causes impairment, then why does the prescribing information for Flexeril specifically warn against mixing Flexeril and alcoholic beverages?

Such an impairment had not happened before to her while doing the same thing. I'm sure a non-biased physician would concede that although alcohol can potentiate the sedative effects of Flexeril Two beers two and an half hours prior would not explain the near unconscious state that precipitously developed in Crystal only after consuming a drink given to her at the house."

Wrong. It was the equivalent of nearly 4 beers. The impaired state was rhere when she entered the Lacrosse party house.

"Think date-rape drug friends."

Says no clinical experience, no clinical training Krnhyderal. Think Kenhyderal denies the truth, Friends.; December 15, 2016 at 5:00 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Do you have any evidence to support your ridiculous claim of a date rape drug?

Why would anyone even think "date rape drug" when you know Mangum had at least 44 ounces of beer (that we know about) and followed that with Flexeril? That explains her symptoms far better than a date rape drug for which no evidence exists.

In any event, the rape case is over. It has been proven that Mangum lied about being raped. The young men she falsely accused were declared innocent, handsomely compensated for their ordeal and have gone on to lead the successful lives. No lies you and Sid tell can change that. They only make you look silly and unserious. That is why no one who matters, or might be able to help Mangum will listen to Sid, take his calls, respond to his letters or meet with him.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 15, 2016 at 5:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Think about it kenny: People in authority find your and Sid's positions and tactics so repugnant that they would rather be sued than sit and listen to you. That's what you have done to yourselves and your reputations.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 15, 2016 at 5:55 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "Why would anyone even think "date rape drug" when you know Mangum had at least 44 ounces of beer (that we know about) and followed that with Flexeril? That explains her symptoms far better than a date rape drug for which no evidence exists".....................No it does not. Especially when Crystal had often done that before. Crystal's drug screen came back negative for cannabis, cocaine, heroin and the date rape drugs rohypnol and GHB. At the time there was no test for chloral hydrate; a fact which was well known to sexual predators. She showed no signs of alcohol impairment at Durham Access (they suspected drugs) or at Duke Hospital. Alcohol can potentiate the sedative affects of alcohol and so can antihistamines which carry the same warnings as Flexeril. Unless this was an unlikely idiosyncratic reaction which never occurred previously or subsequently this fails to explain her sudden impairment. On the other hand it is highly indicative of chloral hydrate.; December 15, 2016 at 8:51 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: :Whether the Flexeril is prescribed or not, it is an intoxicant, especially if you combine it with alcohol"...................................... No it is not an "intoxicant". Flexeril is a prescription muscle relaxant. It can potentiate the sedative effects of alcohol.; December 15, 2016 at 9:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"At the time there was no test for chloral hydrate; a fact which was well known to sexual predators. "

Irrelevant statement, and presuming facts nit in evidence.

There was no evidence, no physical evidence, no forensic evidence that Crystal was raped. There were n sexual predators at the Lacrosse party, a truth which Kenhtderal, as is his wont, willfully ignores.; December 16, 2016 at 2:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 16 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 168 days since the end of June, 236 days since April 23rd, 275 days since the Ides of March, 1,119 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,470 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,361 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 16, 2016 at 2:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny:

Was Mangum's friend, Vincent Clark, wrong when he said that Mangum has mental health problems?

Do you believe it was improper for Roy Cooper to consider considering Mangum's mental health issues in deciding not to charge her with a crime in connection with rape allegations she made against the Duke lacrosse players?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 16, 2016 at 5:43 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny and Sid:

Is Mangum's mother a liar for stating, in an interview with Essence magazine, that Mangum had been treated for mental illness?

http://www.newsweek.com/duke-lacrosse-accuser-crystal-mangums-tragic-life-75197

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/05/duke-lacrosse-rape-accusers-new-trouble-crystal-mangum-arrested.html

Have either of you told Mangum's mother that she is wrong about her daughter's medical history?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 16, 2016 at 5:51 AM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "Think date-rape drug friends."

Speculation is not evidence, nor is it particularly convincing in this case. The Taylor statement shows that Crystal became impaired very quickly and acted very incoherently at times. The more likely explanations are either Flexeril and beer interacting, or mental illness, or a combination of the three. The fact that Crystal was not raped is well determined.

What did happen is she was on a weekend of exotic dancing, sex shows, prostitution and consensual sexual activity with her driver, her boyfriend and others. All aided by beer, and prescription medications. She was never so intoxicated that she could not form consent. Nor was she ever so incoherent that she could not work until the last at the lacrosse party. Why she lied about being raped is a mystery. I don't ascribe any financial motive to her. I suspect she didn't want to be held over at the Durham Crisis Response Center until mental health could pick her up in the morning, so she said she was raped. That got her a free trip to the ER and avoided a mental health hold.

A sad situation where three innocent men were dragged into her drama. They did nothing to deserve what they got. That is the injustice of this case.

Walt-in-Durham; December 16, 2016 at 6:56 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...

kenny and Sid:

Is Mangum's mother a liar for stating, in an interview with Essence magazine, that Mangum had been treated for mental illness?

http://www.newsweek.com/duke-lacrosse-accuser-crystal-mangums-tragic-life-75197

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/05/duke-lacrosse-rape-accusers-new-trouble-crystal-mangum-arrested.html

Have either of you told Mangum's mother that she is wrong about her daughter's medical history?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Hey, Abe. Both of the articles you have links to mention Essence magazine's interview with Mangum's mother. Is there a reason you don't have a link directly to the Essence magazine article?

Now, is Mangum depressed about her situation...? Yes. Does that mean she has mental illness as would be interpreted by most reasonable people? No.

Crystal Mangum, in my opinion, is not mentally ill. In fact, she is emotionally and mentally an extremely strong person as far as I am concerned... especially considering what she's been through.

I know Mangum better than the reporters... I have visited her weekly for the past three years. No one else can make that claim.; December 16, 2016 at 8:03 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Sidney Harr:

Matbe YOU can explain why you and your disciple Kenhyderal get such gratification from believing Crystal Mangum was rape.

Where do you get "gratification" from? I believe, like kenhyderal and Mike Nifong, that Mangum was sexually assaulted... not necessarily raped. However, my focus has always been on the murder case. Her incarceration has nothing directly to do with the Duke Lacrosse case. Her incarceration is do to corrupt and racist legal system that denied Mangum a fair trial and is providing immunity to a medical examiner who concocted a false autopsy report upon which to base a prosecution and gave perjured testimony to help convict an innocent person.; December 16, 2016 at 8:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Crystal Mangum, in my opinion, is not mentally ill."

So?

Maybe you are twice as competent to make such an observation as your disciple Kenhyderal. Two times nothing is still nothing.; December 16, 2016 at 10:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Where do you get "gratification" from?"

If you didn't get some gratification from believing Crystal was raped, from repeatedly referring to Crystal as the "Victim/Accuser" in the Duke Rape Case, you wouldn't be doing it.

"I believe, like kenhyderal and Mike Nifong, that Mangum was sexually assaulted... not necessarily raped."

Wrong. By repeatedly referring to Crystal as the "victim/accuser in the Duke Rape Case, you express the belief she was raped. You also document you can not recognize the truth.

"However, my focus has always been on the murder case."

Wrong again. You started this farce of a blog because you wanted the world to believe Crystal was raped, that the wrongfully accused Lacrosse players were guilty, that DA Nifong was prosecuted for his ethics violations and his criminal contempt by rich and powerful people who had declared a vendetta against him.

"Her incarceration has nothing directly to do with the Duke Lacrosse case. Her incarceration is do to corrupt and racist legal system that denied Mangum a fair trial and is providing immunity to a medical examiner who concocted a false autopsy report upon which to base a prosecution and gave perjured testimony to help convict an innocent person."

First, you do not have and never had the expertise to determine that the results of autopsy on Reginald Daye had been falsified.

Second, you have made repeated statements that the prosecution of Crystal Mangum was a "vendetta driven prosecution", conducted because she was the "victim/accuser" in the Duke Rape Case.

You have documented not only that you can not comprehend the truth, you can't even comprehend your own actions; December 16, 2016 at 10:28 AM
kenhyderal said...: Walt said : "What did happen is she was on a (weekend of exotic dancing) WRONG, sex shows, (prostitution) WRONG and consensual sexual activity with her driver, her boyfriend and (others) WRONG. All aided by beer, and prescription medications. She was never so intoxicated that she could not form consent. Nor was she ever so incoherent that she could not work until the last at the lacrosse party. Why she (lied about being raped) WRONG is a mystery. I don't ascribe any financial motive to her. (I suspect she didn't want to be held over at the Durham Crisis Response Center until mental health could pick her up in the morning, so she said she was raped) WRONG. That got her a free trip to the ER and avoided a mental health hold. A sad situation where three(innocent) WRONG men were dragged into her drama. They did (nothing) WRONG to deserve what they got. That is the injustice of this case.; December 16, 2016 at 10:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

I don't know the link to the Essence article, but I trust the sources that refer to it.

The fact is, Mangum has a documented history of mental illness. Her family and friends acknowledge it. The AG alluded to it when he stated he wouldn't charge Mangum for making a false report in the case against the Duke lacrosse players. Lying about it doesn't help Mangum in any way and it renders you ineffective as an advocate.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; December 16, 2016 at 10:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr::

"
I know Mangum better than the reporters... I have visited her weekly for the past three years. No one else can make that claim."

So?

You do not have the expertise to determine whether or not someone is ill, let alone whether or not someone is mentally ill.; December 16, 2016 at 10:31 AM

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