justice4nifong: NC Office of Administrative Hearings: Ex Mero Motu Order for Supplemental Briefs

Sunday, August 20, 2023

NC Office of Administrative Hearings: Ex Mero Motu Order for Supplemental Briefs

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kenhyderal said...: Please; those, on this blog who are Lawyers, help Dr. Harr finally show in court, what we all know to be true, the cause of Daye's death was an "accident" due to intervening causes unrelated to the stab wound and therefore not a murder.; August 20, 2023 at 9:27 AM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM
dhall said...: One of the OAH responsibilities is to ensure that entities within the North Carolina State government do not overstep their administrative bounds with regards to rulemaking, investigation, advocacy and adjudication functions.

If you file a contested hearing petition, it’s the petitioner’s responsibility to provide the court with proof that the government entity overstepped its administrative bounds. It’s also the petitioner’s responsibility to show that in making these administrative decisions, the petitioner was adversely affected.

I’ve yet to see you provide any of that proof here.

You have secured an agreement with Dr. Wecht (who also has a JD) to testify, did you ask him to review the OAH documents? Did you ask him if the motion to file supplemental brief was a standard tool of the court?
Did you even bother to ask him if DHHS or Dr. Aurelius overstepped their administrative authority?; August 20, 2023 at 4:13 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Issuing “preliminary, interlocutory, or other orders as appropriate” (including orders regarding prehearing matters) are some of the duties of the administrative law judge. See 26 NCAC 03.0105

So yeah. It’s standard procedure. Ask Mike Nifong.; August 20, 2023 at 5:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

The lawyers on here have been trying to help Sid for years. He rejects their advice because he's clearly not interested in actually trying to help Crystal. He just wants her to think he is. She is literally his captive audience.

None of us really believe their relationship will continue once she is released. They are both using each other.; August 21, 2023 at 4:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Look at the subject of most of your sentences in your "request".

"I", "me", "my".

It's all about you, not Crystal Mangum. Unfortunately for her, it always has been.

You've caused her to lose any hope of gaining access to real legal representation by your insistence that both you and her be her primary representation. No lawyer is going to accept that.

You've interjected yourself and your ideas into her legal process, neglecting to even bother to understand how that process works.

You've convinced her to put her name to ridiculous civil lawsuits, without bothering to do any actual research to see if those lawsuits had any merit.

You've ignored the input of people that actually understand the law or do the actual research.

You claim to have access to a number of legal experts (Mike Nifong, James Coleman, Cyril Wecht) yet you've apparently never asked them about the validity of ANY of your "legal actions".

Is there cause for concern? Of course there is -- but it's not any reason you cited.

With friends like you, Crystal Mangum doesn't need any enemies.; August 21, 2023 at 7:30 AM
kenhyderal said...: The untold story here is; in your corrupt system, there is always a prior way of interpreting the codes to provide a legal rationale for producing whatever result you (ie.the system) desires and without ever having to take the risk of letting a public court decide. You guys keep intimating that if Crystal had only hired a Lawyer all would have been well and she would have been freed. You don't take into account what the "powers that be" there want and will get, one way or another. The chief strategy is run out the clock. The injustice to Crystal is just one more moral outrage by those who despise people and love power.; August 21, 2023 at 10:50 AM
kenhyderal said...: The untold story here is; in your corrupt system, there is always a prior way of interpreting the codes to provide a legal rationale for producing whatever result you (ie.the system) desires and without ever having to take the risk of letting a public court decide. You guys keep intimating that if Crystal had only hired a Lawyer all would have been well and she would have been freed. You don't take into account what the "powers that be" there want and will get, one way or another. The chief strategy is run out the clock. The injustice to Crystal is just one more moral outrage by those who despise people and love power.; August 21, 2023 at 10:50 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: Udaman Sid.; August 21, 2023 at 3:04 PM
Pepper Brooks said...: Sid -

Ouchtown, population you, bro!; August 21, 2023 at 3:26 PM
Ubes said...: Kenny,

Sid requested your help. Why are you ignoring him?; August 21, 2023 at 5:37 PM
Anonymous said...: "The untold story here is; in your corrupt system, there is always a prior way of interpreting the codes to provide a legal rationale for producing whatever result you (ie.the system) desires and without ever having to take the risk of letting a public court decide. You guys keep intimating that if Crystal had only hired a Lawyer all would have been well and she would have been freed. You don't take into account what the "powers that be" there want and will get, one way or another. The chief strategy is run out the clock. The injustice to Crystal is just one more moral outrage by those who despise people and love power."

I'm not sure who you're making this comment to (if anyone -- it appears to be nothing more than a rant because you aren't getting what you want. A temper tantrum, if you will).

The law is what it is -- ignore it at your own risk. Are there those that use the law to their advantage? Sure. It happens in Canada as well, but you never rant about YOUR corrupt system. Funny that.

"...there is always a prior way of interpreting the codes to provide a legal rationale". I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Is their a way to use prior cases to provide legal rationale? Of course there is - If the court has ruled on something in the past that applies to a current case, then you can apply that court ruling to the current court case. That's the way the law works (even in Canada)-- ignore this at your own risk.

"You guys keep intimating that if Crystal had only hired a Lawyer all would have been well".

Had Crystal hired a lawyer, she would find herself in a better situation than she has with Sid acting as her "legal layperson".

Sid ignores the law. He's admitted he doesn't even bother to research it. He's filed numerous frivolous lawsuits on Crystal Mangum's behalf. He (he claims) has access to legal experts, but instead asks the commenters here to provide assistance.

A lawyer would have done none of that.

These are facts. You are free to ignore them, but it doesn't change them. It simply makes you look foolish.; August 22, 2023 at 8:32 AM
dhall said...: Anonymous @August 21, 2023 at 7:30 AM

While you bring up valid points, Dr. Harr has been seeing comments like these for years. Look back at the posts from Dr. Caligari and Walt-in-Durham specifically, and you'll see they've attempted to educate him. It hasn't worked.

It is unfortunate but true that Dr. Harr ignores the input of those that tell him something he doesn't want to hear. Even when his so-called "secret project" is a failure for precisely the reason he was given.

In ignoring those comments, he puts himself (and by extension, Crystal Mangum) in a bad light....But he doesn't care.

Dr. Harr will simply do as he has always done, and there's nothing we can state here (other than agree with him) that will matter to him.

I do appreciate your effort, and I look forward to your comments.; August 22, 2023 at 11:36 AM
Tyrone Rugen said...: Jeez Sid -- You should be ashamed of yourself!

Only a lawyer should give legal advice! All a non-lawyer may do is recite legal information.

Commenters here -- giving legal advice IS the same as practicing law.

Sid -- Asking people who do not have the authority to give legal advice IS asking them to participate in the unauthorized practice of law.

Commenters here -- Even if you want to help Sid/CGM, keep your legal advice to yourself, unless you are licensed to provide it.; August 22, 2023 at 11:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal --

"You guys keep intimating that if Crystal had only hired a Lawyer all would have been well..."

I'm not intimating anything here -- I am telling you.

Crystal Mangum could have had a court-appointed attorney represent her for her various MARs.

In North Carolina, if you do not hire a private attorney to represent you, you must first file a Motion for Appropriate Relief (MAR) yourself (Pro Se).

If a judge reviews your motion and determines that it is not frivolous, the judge will appoint an attorney to represent you.

If the judge decides that all the claims in your motion are frivolous, the judge will deny the motion.

All of this information is readily available at https://www.nccourts.gov/

Now -- Questions for you:

How many MARs has Crystal Mangum filed?

Has an attorney ever been appointed to present her?

Now a few rhetorical questions for you to think about:

Why hasn't a judge ever appointed an attorney to represent Mangum?

Should the person responsible for preparing her MARs bear the responsibility for having all of the claims in those MARs denied?

Who prepared the MARs for Crystal Mangum?; August 22, 2023 at 1:16 PM
Anonymous said...: It's really too bad Sid isn't posting the documents from the Federal case. His response to the Defendants regarding Summary Judgment is ridiculous even by his standards. He completely ignores the law (Admissions/Discovery are not filed with the Court despite Sid's whining - he claims service is a mere technicality, even though he's had months to fix it). There are others, but it's pathetic even by Sid's low standards.

No wonder he's moved on.; August 22, 2023 at 3:56 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 23, 2023 at 4:00 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Thanks for the info, Anonymous @August 22, 2023 at 1:16 PM

I wasn't aware that a lawyer could be appointed by the court for a MAR.

TBH, I don't know the actual history of CGM's MARs, other than that they ultimately failed.

Since CGM didn't have a lawyer appointed, it does appear that her MARs were declared frivolous by the judges.

Sid -- Can you confirm that these MARs never made it past judge review?

If they did, was an opportunity to have a lawyer appointed presented to CGM and she refused it?; August 23, 2023 at 7:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Q:
What kind of briefs does Sid need assistance with?

A:
Depends....; August 23, 2023 at 2:04 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous 8-22-23 @ 8:32 said: "Had Crystal hired a lawyer, she would find herself in a better situation than she has with Sid acting as her "legal layperson"----- What you completely ignore is that Dr. Harr was the only one who immediately saw in the medical records proof that Daye was not murdered by Crystal. No appointed Lawyer wanted to hear that. That would mean taking on Duke and pointing this out to the Justice System, would, once again, raise the spectre of Gov. Coopers's role and involvement in dismissing the sexual assault of Crystal. In North Carolina it would take an out of State "dream team" ($$) to take that case, on behalf of a poor, black, marginalized, single mother, whom The Duke Lacrosse Lawyers, using the immoral strategy of trashing the accuser, succeeded in making Crystal a pariah; August 23, 2023 at 4:15 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said 8-22-23 @ 8:32 "Had Crystal hired a lawyer, she would find herself in a better situation than she has with Sid acting as her "legal layperson"---- What you completely ignore is that Dr. Harr immediately saw from the medical records that Daye's death was not a murder . No Court appointed North Carolina Lawyer wanted to take on Duke or the "powers that be" on behalf of a poor, black, marginalized,single mother. It would take an out-of state "dream team" ($$) to do that. It would also mean taking on Gov. Cooper whose involvment with Crystal dates back to when, under immense pressure, he dismissed the sexual assault charges against The Duke Lacrosse Players, whose own expensive "dream-team" successfully used the immoral strategy of trashing the accuser and made Crystal a pariah; August 23, 2023 at 4:49 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 24, 2023 at 4:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:
I find it interesting that you didn't address any of the facts in my post. You obviously can't find fault in them, so you (again) present us with more written diarrhea.

No Court appointed North Carolina Lawyer wanted to take on Duke or the "powers that be"
Your proof for this is?

It would take an out-of state "dream team" ($$) to do that.
And you proof for this is?

What you completely ignore is that Dr. Harr immediately saw from the medical records that Daye's death was not a murder .

I didn't ignore anything that Sid has done -- what you claim Sid "saw" simply doesn't matter. Res non verba.

Sid hasn't done anything to better Crystal Mangum's situation. I'll acknowledge that he does WHEN he does.; August 24, 2023 at 6:51 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 8-24-23 6:51 Help me here, if you don't mind. Could you list "The Facts" you said I didn't address?; August 24, 2023 at 9:33 AM
Anonymous said...: 1) Sid ignores the law.

2) He's admitted he doesn't even bother to research it.

3) He's filed numerous frivolous lawsuits on Crystal Mangum's behalf.

4) He (he claims) has access to legal experts, but instead asks the commenters here to provide assistance

I stated in the post you identified, "These are facts. You are free to ignore them, but it doesn't change them. It simply makes you look foolish."; August 24, 2023 at 11:50 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 8-24-23 # 1 Opinion not fact # 2 where and when did he do that. #3 Opinion not a fact #4 How do you know he hasn't ?; August 24, 2023 at 3:45 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 25, 2023 at 4:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny:

1. Fact, not opinion - he admits it, even in his recent lawsuit, he admits he is ignoring the law on service of process - says it shouldn't apply. Given that he knows how to serve lawsuits, given that it was explained to him how to do it, given that he had plenty of time to fix it and hasn't, why do you still give him a pass for ignoring the law and demanding special treatment, rather than simply follow the law? And, he keeps bringing up felony murder, even though it's been explained, repeatedly, it was never in play.

2. He literally said that in his earlier comments.

3. No, given the dismissals and sanctions, the Courts have said they are frivolous as well. Thta's a fact.

4. He has admitted he won't ask Coleman, Nifong, or others for advice.; August 25, 2023 at 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Oh, Kenhyderal, is your August 24, 2023 at 3:45 PM comment due to apathy or ignorance?

1) Sid Ignores the law.

Sid has been practicing law by doing all of Mangum's legal work. Hell -- he's been sued by the NC Bar for practicing law without a license, and in February 2013 a Wake County judge forbade him from further involvement. Now he's gone so far as to ask YOU to participate in the unauthorized practice of law.

That IS ignoring the law

2) He's admitted he doesn't even bother to research it,

He filed a motion for Crystal Mangum in the wrong court! He files civil lawsuits past their time limits (see #3). None of these things happen if he bothers to research.

3) He's filed numerous frivolous lawsuits on Crystal Mangum's behalf.

Read my post from August 22, 2023 at 1:16 PM. His MARs have NEVER passed judicial review. That literally means the judge has determined them to be frivolous. Then there's the whole libel and defamation debacle, where he filed civil lawsuits WELL after the statute of limitation time limit had expired.

4) He (he claims) has access to legal experts, but instead asks the commenters here to provide assistance.

Sid stated in May that "The only lawyer I trust and a man whose integrity is beyond compromise is Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, and I choose not to waste his valuable time..."
He has access to Sidney Wecht, and he has commenters here. Which one would YOU ask for legal assistance from?

Now, stop wasting my time. If you can't provide actual proof for your statements, don't make them.; August 25, 2023 at 7:07 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Kenny -- All you need to do is read Sid's posts, read the lawsuits he's filed (and the corresponding rulings), and Sid's own comments to know that @ Anonymous @August 24, 2023 at 11:50 AM is correct in all his(?) points.

You can make all the "powers that be" conspiracy theories you want.

To quote Daniel Moynihan, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts"; August 25, 2023 at 8:03 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous and The Prince. You really have to learn what is fact and what is opinion. It is a fact that Duke killed Daye. It is a fact that Daye's acute unmanaged alcohol withdrawl was the primary cause of his death. Now for opinion. It was the opinion of renown Pathologist and Law Professor, as evidenced by his completeing Dr. Harr's affirmatives, that Daye's death was an accident not a murder. My opinion; in a just Society, obviously not Cooper's North Carolina, that should be enough to grant a wrongly conviced Crystal with a new trial. Keep in mind her jury did not hear the above mentioned facts.; August 26, 2023 at 11:05 AM
A Durham Man said...: Kenny,

When you are in a hole, why do you continue to dig?; August 26, 2023 at 3:39 PM
dhall said...: You’ve completely ignored the facts as identified by anonymous (anonymi?) and attempted to change the discussion to something completely unrelated to the facts as presented.

Don’t change the subject. You said “… 1 Opinion not fact # 2 where and when did he do that. #3 Opinion not a fact #4 How do you know he hasn't ?”

When presented with evidence stating otherwise, rather than provide evidence to bolster your argument, you attempt to change the discussion.

Why is that?

My opinion: You can’t prove their statements to be false.; August 26, 2023 at 10:07 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 27, 2023 at 5:51 AM
Florida Man said...: Kenny,

Are you planning to assist Crystal, or will you just continue to post your meaningless statements on this blog?; August 27, 2023 at 9:03 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhall 8-26-23 10:07 PM ------When confronted with the irrefuatable facts of Crystal's innocence you would choose to ignore the implications of that miscarriage and instead change the discussion to such inconsequential things as an annonymous posters statements which I perceive as opinion and he/she perceives as facts. Lets get back to the crucial matter of the wrongful conviction of an innocent person by a jury that was not given the facts; something that should outrage every American.; August 27, 2023 at 9:06 AM
guiowen said...: Kenny,
The trouble is that you have no proof of CGM's innocence. All you have is a statement by a senile old man who shows no desire to repeat this opinion. Go and get Wecht to make a serious statement -- something he is willing to repeat.; August 27, 2023 at 1:28 PM
dhall said...: I see. When it’s your opinion, it’s “irrefuatable facts”.

When it’s someone else’s it’s “perceived” facts.

Moving forward, let’s agree to use a common definition of the word “fact” — A fact is a statement that can be verified. It can be proven to be true or false through objective evidence.

With that as are standard definition, we know that Crystal Mangum innocence is neither irrefutable nor a fact. She was found guilty by a jury of her peers, and every lawsuit filed in an attempt to reverse that decision or force another trial has failed.

We can, then, consider your first sentence to be nothing more than inconsequential perceived opinion and ignore it. Just as you’ve set aside and ignored comments you consider inconsequential.

I’m okay with that. By all means, let’s get back to the crucial matter of Crystal Mangum’s conviction.

What exactly are you doing about this “wrongful conviction of an innocent person by a jury that was not given the facts; something that should outrage every American”?

I eagerly await your response.; August 27, 2023 at 6:19 PM
dhall said...: And, I’ll add, rather than answer my question, you doubled down and changed the subject yet again.

It appears to be a common theme with you.

Perhaps the issue is mine.
I’m just expecting too much from you.

I expect meaningful dialogue and well-reasoned responses to serious questions, when I should expect “meaningless statements on this blog”.; August 27, 2023 at 6:36 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Florida Man: I will continue to post the truth, here on this forum and anywhere else I have access to, the undeniable facts of Crystal's innocence. I will also continue to point out that any who have had access to the information and that most likely includes you, as Americans should demand that justice be served. My question to you all is, how can you possibly defend her wrongful treatment. As a foreigner with limited options all I can do is appeal to your conscience. Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht have proven her innocence and have made this truth known to all with the power to correct this miscarriage of justice. All of you should do the right thing and join the chorus to have her exonerated.; August 27, 2023 at 7:31 PM
dhall said...: "I will continue to post the truth, here on this forum and anywhere else I have access to, the undeniable facts of Crystal's innocence."

Can you provide examples of you posting " the truth..anywhere else [you] have access to, the undeniable facts of Crystal's innocence..."?

"I will also continue to point out that any who have had access to the information and that most likely includes you, as Americans should demand that justice be served."

Again, the things you consider "undeniable facts" are just someone's opinion. You've even admitted this when you stated "It was the opinion* of renown Pathologist and Law Professor, as evidenced by his completeing Dr. Harr's affirmatives, that Daye's death was an accident not a murder." (*bolding mine)

Opinions aren't facts.

"My question to you all is, how can you possibly defend her wrongful treatment[?]"
I feel that the "wrongful treatment" Crystal Mangum HAS encountered is the lack of getting medical information about her own healthcare.
To that end, I pointed out what I thought were relevant laws regarding inmate healthcare that are applicable to her. (information, I should point out, that is readily available for anyone via a simple google search). What was your input on this issue?

"As a foreigner with limited options all I can do is appeal to your conscience. Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht have proven her innocence and have made this truth known to all with the power to correct this miscarriage of justice. All of you should do the right thing and join the chorus to have her exonerated."

Dr. Wecht and Dr. Harr haven't "proven" anything. They've simply used existing facts to provide differing opinions about known events.; August 28, 2023 at 8:29 AM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; August 28, 2023 at 4:40 PM
kenhyderal said...: @dhall Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht with "facts" not opinion have proven that the knife wound, admistered by Crystal, did not kill Daye. The Jury was told it did. The Jury never heard errant esophagel intubation, unrecognized in a timely fashion by Duke. Ther Jury never heard delerium tremens due to acute alcohol withdrawl, inadequately managed by Duke.The Jury never heard of cardiac arrest leading to cerebral anoxia due to the errant esophageal intubation. The Jury never heard of elective removal from life support in a brain dead Daye. All these things that happened were shown to be facts. The only area where opinion came into this was were they intervening causes that would render a Welch precident inopperative. It was Wecht's opinion that these were, in fact, intervening events, unrelated to the stab wound, which caused Daye's demise. Do you have the temerity to disagree with him? The root of Crystal's wrongful treatment is her wrongful conviction and imprisonment. Of course inadequate health care for any prisoner is wrong and more so for someone wrongly convicted.; August 28, 2023 at 4:40 PM
Tyrone Rugen said...: DHall- you seriously expected “meaningful dialogue and well-reasoned responses to serious questions” from Kenhyderal??

I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard.

[pause]

How marvelous.; August 28, 2023 at 5:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, no one said that Daye died from the knife wound. Everyone agrees with you, and Dr. Harr - he died from medical malpractice from Duke. We all agree on that.

What you and Sid ignore - if Crystal hadn't stabbed him, he would not have been in Duke for them to commit medical malpractice - therefore but for the stabbing, he would not have died in Duke. Under North Carolina law, that is sufficient to hold her responsible for his death. Malpractice is not considered an independent intervening act to cut off liability.

Unless you contend that Duke intentionally murdered Daye, Crystal's stabbing was still a proximate cause of his death, even if not the proximate cause, or the main one.

We get you don't like the law, but ignoring it doesn't help anyone.; August 29, 2023 at 4:45 AM
Florida Man said...: Kenny,

How’s that strategy working out for you? I hope the other sites where you post have more readers than the dozen people who follow Sid’s blog.; August 29, 2023 at 5:08 AM
dhall said...: "Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht with "facts" not opinion have proven that the knife wound, admistered by Crystal, did not kill Daye."

No, Kenhyderal they haven't.

You've stated in the SAME POST "The only area where opinion came into this was were they intervening causes that would render a Welch precident inopperative."

Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht both have the opinion that Welch should not apply. Others do.

I do have the temerity to state that Dr. Harr's presentation of their opinions haven't convinced those that matter. It is my opinion that is Dr. Harr's fault because he doesn't have the legal knowledge to present them in the proper manner. It is also your fault -- for not correcting him.

I think I've stated from the beginning that I didn't believe Crystal Mangum was guilty of murder, but rather a lesser charge (for which she should have been convicted).

It is my opinion that, had Dr. Harr not intervened on behalf of Crystal Mangum, it would have ended in this result.

Now with regard to the questions you never bothered to answer in your response, it's clearly a fact that you have NOT posted "...the truth..anywhere else [you] have access to, the undeniable facts of Crystal's innocence."

You did not attempt to help Crystal Mangum get access to her own healthcare records.

With friends like you, Crystal Mangum doesn't need enemies.

And, Tyrone, you are correct. My expectations of Kenhyderal are obviously flawed.
To paraphrase recent poster, Pepper Brooks:

Ouchtown, population me, bro!; August 29, 2023 at 6:00 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Tyrone and dhall and all who defend what has been done to Crystal Mangum:. Sometimes when arguing with you guys, I get the imprssion I need to heed the words of Thomas Payne "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason, is like administering medicine to the dead"; August 29, 2023 at 4:23 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 30, 2023 at 4:04 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Two days ago, the Office of Administrative Hearings issued an order indefinitely continuing Mangum's hearing scheduled for October 2nd. In other words it has been cancelled. The supposed reason being to enable it to react to Mangum's Motion for Appropriate Relief filed on or about April 26, 2023 with the Durham County Superior Criminal Court.

By so doing, it seems to have taken the avenue of dismissing the case ex mero motu off the table... a case which was extremely weak as it was.
LINK: Administrative Law Judge Nelson's Order to Continue Pending MAR Ruling

As you can see, a lot is taking place in Mangum's cases, so apologies for not taking a more active role in comments... am extremely busy, many secret projects.

As you were.; August 30, 2023 at 5:16 AM
dhall said...: "Sometimes when arguing with you guys, I get the imprssion I need to heed the words of Thomas Payne "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason, is like administering medicine to the dead"

How do you think we've felt all this time, Kenhyderal? At least there are those of us here who use logic as our basis to form judgments. Something you and Dr. Harr often fail to do. Even if you don't like them, you fault us for that.

...And I've at least responded to your questions.; August 30, 2023 at 5:29 AM
kenhyderal said...: @dhall: I respond to all your questions, something you don't do, to all of mine. One example, is your failure to give a yes or no answer to Dr. Harr's affirmatives. Another question , I've asked you, is, "do you agree with the courts decision that Crystal murdered Reginald Daye?". You do know all the facts, including crucial facts the Jury never heard. If there is any pressing question, you have posed to me, that, you want an answer to, which you feel I have neglected to answer, why not repeat it here? Let me be frank here; I believe you to be a
reasoning person and I surmise you know Crtystal did not murder Daye. What I find hard to fathom is how, knowing what you do know, you continue to support her wrongful conviction or at least defend her contnuing incarcerating and blame it on Dr. Harr and not the North Caroline Justice System. Reason tells me dhall you are on the wrong side of this.; August 30, 2023 at 9:16 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhall : Crystal was convicted of Murder. You do not believe she is guilty of that. I don't see you showing any outrage over her being convicted of something that in your opinion she is innocent of. It's something that,in my opinion, any American should be upset about.; August 30, 2023 at 4:21 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous; 8-29-23 4:45 AM. I take it from this response that you disagree with the opinion of Dr. Cyril Wecht who explained, in simple terms with examples, why Daye's chronic alcoholism and his acute alcohol withdrawl and it's associated delerium tremens was clearly an intervening cause, unrelated to Crystal's actions, which, by the way, were done in self defence, something any dedicated Lawyer could have sucsessfully argued. Are you qualified to question his opinion? I am at least gratified that you disagree with Dr. Nicholls evidence in Court under oath that in his expert opinion Daye died as a result of complications to the stab wound. Something that there is zero evidence for and something any person like yourself or like any Juror given the facts should readily be able ascertain.; August 30, 2023 at 4:45 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; August 31, 2023 at 4:03 AM
dhall said...: @Kenhyderal -- You simply do not "respond to all [my] questions". On this blog alone there are a number of questions I asked you didn't respond to -- There are a number of questions from others you didn't respond to either. I think all are valid questions.

Let me be frank here - It's my belief that you ignore any questions that might cause you to change your opinion.

Now, in regard to the questions you've asked of me:

One example, is your failure to give a yes or no answer to Dr. Harr's affirmatives

There's not a question there, and I don't see any that ask about these affirmative on this blog entry. I will tell you that I agree with Dr. Aurelius' objections to them.

do you agree with the courts decision that Crystal murdered Reginald Daye?

I stated in the past that I didn't believe Crystal Mangum was guilty of murder, but rather a lesser charge. A charge for which she should have been convicted.

As such, being guilty of a violent crime, she should have gone to jail. I am not convinced she stabbed Daye in self defense, and I am convinced that her past actions with Milton Walker demonstrate that she had a tendency for this type of behavior.

Crystal damned herself with her own testimony, and by having others, primarily Dr. Harr, make her legal decisions for her. I can't do anything about that. You could have (apparently, considering your claimed friendship with her), but chose not to.

Here's my pressing questions -- ones that I've struggled to understand from your point of view, and quite frankly, why I keep attempting these dialogs with you, when I should know better:

Given that Dr. Harr involved himself in her case to her detriment, that he ignores the law as it exists, does not attempt to do any research, files frivolous lawsuits, and doesn't use the assistance of very capable legal experts he claims to have access to, how can you possibly support him in any of his legal activities?

There are a number of examples of people convicted of murder in North Carolina having their cases overturned and set free. Have you even bothered to look at those cases, and how these people were successful in getting their convictions overturned?

How these cases were successfully overturned should be the blueprint for those who are convinced Crystal Mangum is innocent. I can guarantee you -- no frivolous lawsuits were filed on the behalf of these people. No silly civil lawsuits either.; August 31, 2023 at 6:31 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: "Two days ago, the Office of Administrative Hearings issued an order indefinitely continuing Mangum's hearing scheduled for October 2nd. In other words it has been cancelled. The supposed reason being to enable it to react to Mangum's Motion for Appropriate Relief filed on or about April 26, 2023 with the Durham County Superior Criminal Court."

Your legal acumen on display.

Look up the definition of "continuance", Sid.

Let us know what you find.; August 31, 2023 at 9:09 AM
kenhyderal said...: @dhall In answer, I support Dr. Harr because I know he has her best interests at heart. He was, after all, right from the start, the person who determined that the stab wound did not kill Daye. It was a time when all here bought into Dr. Nicholls testimony that Daye died as a result of complications of the stab wound; something the facts show to be untrue and something you and everyone else including Gov. Cooper and AG Stein, thanks to Dr. Harr, also know to be false. In your broken Justice System, designed to support America's plethora of Lawyers, there are always ways to produce decisions, the ingrained system favors, like for example denying Crystal's MARs and these ways, when employed, will always be able trump any search for justice. You think Crystal was guilty of some lesser crime but she was charged and convicted of murder by a Jury given wrong evidence. Vacate that charge, then, if you chose, charge her with whatever. Lots of luck on that. A question everyone should be asking, is why does Gov. Cooper and his acolyte want to keep an innocent Crystal where she is.; September 1, 2023 at 9:48 AM
dhall said...: “I support Dr. Harr because I know he has her best interests at heart”

While Dr. Harr may have her best interests at heart, his methods for acting on those interests are simply wrong. As anonymous stated, “Res non verba”. He may be saying the right things, but his actions speak louder.

The framework for successfully overturning criminal convictions exist. None of those supporting Crystal Mangum’s release bother to research these methods and act upon them.

Here are 3 simple things you can do:

Stop complaining about the “broken Justice System”.
Do the proper research.
Engage the legal system in the appropriate manner.

Neither you or Sid have bothered to attempt any of these, which is why your attempts fail.

Until you actually do these things, your complaints ring hollow.; September 1, 2023 at 3:28 PM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal-
Holding you to your “I respond to all your questions” comment from August 30, 2023 at 9:16 AM,
please read again my post from August 31, 2023 at 6:31 AM, and address all the questions I asked.; September 1, 2023 at 3:32 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; September 2, 2023 at 5:07 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhal: My response to your first question was my reply 9-1-23 9:48. Let me expand on it. Your question is prefaced by a number of perjoratives against Dr. Harr, the fiance of Crystal and the person helping her in her with navigating the legal system pro-se. Dr. Harr is a physician, the physician that showed to the world Crystal did not murder Daye, not a Lawyer. He has tried valiently to navigate this rigged system, set up to keep intact the good old American way of mass incarceration of it's citizens. Once again check out Conrad Black's take on that system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ_TcMhMqU. As to the second question the answer is no. I have zero legal experience, having never encountered a justice system either civilly or criminally. Dr. Harr is a highly capable persom with an obvious personel interest in doing what is best for Crystal. From my point of view is, he can without input from me make decisions on courses of actions to take, in order to obtain justice for Crystal. Keep in mind he has already proven her innocence.; September 2, 2023 at 1:53 PM
Tyrone Rugen said...: I get it.

Is it ignorance or apathy?

You don't know and you don't care.

How sad for Crystal Mangum that someone who claims to be a friend allows Sid to file silly lolsuits on her behalf without at least having the courage to tell him it's wrong to do so.

"Dr. Harr is a highly capable persom with an obvious personel interest in doing what is best for Crystal. From my point of view is, he can without input from me make decisions on courses of actions to take, in order to obtain justice for Crystal."

I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard.

[pause]

How marvelous.; September 2, 2023 at 5:16 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

Dr. Cyril Wecht issued a sworn affidavit on August 30, 2023 which clearly exonerates Crystal Mangum in Reginald Daye's death.

LINK: Affidavit by Dr. Wecht - dated August 30, 2023

As you were.; September 2, 2023 at 5:34 PM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
Excellent! You finally got Wecht to make a definitive declaration.; September 2, 2023 at 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Except - all Wecht is saying is that Daye's death was caused by malpractice - which only occurred because of the stabbing. Sid is providing nothing new - it has been repeatedly explained to him that malpractice doesn't cut of Crystal's liability.

This is why Sid won't win - he refuses to listen and learn.; September 3, 2023 at 4:47 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Odd how the document (obviously written, or at least modified by Sid) was signed on the 27th, but notarized on the 30th, even though it states “signed before me…” in the notary’s hand written statement.

An OAH hearing cannot release CGM, nor can it cause her criminal case to be overturned.

All it can determine is whether the decision by Dr. Aurelius was administratively inappropriate.

I’d be concerned that Dr. Wecht apparently doesn’t know this.; September 3, 2023 at 5:16 AM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; September 3, 2023 at 5:32 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Prince Humperdinck said...
Odd how the document (obviously written, or at least modified by Sid) was signed on the 27th, but notarized on the 30th, even though it states “signed before me…” in the notary’s hand written statement.

An OAH hearing cannot release CGM, nor can it cause her criminal case to be overturned.

All it can determine is whether the decision by Dr. Aurelius was administratively inappropriate.

I’d be concerned that Dr. Wecht apparently doesn’t know this.

September 3, 2023 at 5:16 AM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck.

Thanks for your comment. Crystal plans to quote and use it as an exhibit in her next legal document... which should be filed shortly after Labor Day.; September 3, 2023 at 6:56 AM
kenhyderal said...: Tyrone said: "How sad for Crystal Mangum that someone who claims to be a friend allows Sid to file silly lolsuits on her behalf without at least having the courage to tell him it's wrong to do so" Dr. Wecht didn't seem to think the suits were silly or wrong. (See his Affadavit); September 3, 2023 at 8:37 AM
dhall said...: I find it odd that a medical-legal consultant would sign any legal document prepared by someone not a lawyer who isn’t even a defendant in the case.

Someone practicing the law illegally, in other words.

So much so that I’ve reached out to Dr. Wecht to confirm that this is the document he actually signed and had notarized.

I’ll post his response (if I get one).; September 3, 2023 at 11:27 AM
dhall said...: “Let me expand on it. Your question is prefaced by a number of perjoratives against Dr. Harr, the fiance of Crystal and the person helping her in her with navigating the legal system pro-se”

While they be considered “perjoratives”, they are, nonetheless, true.

By having Dr. Harr prepare her legal documents, she is having him break the law on her behalf.

This should reflect poorly on Dr. Harr, as I believe he’s solely responsible for his mistakes.

Unfortunately for Crystal Mangum, because these documents have her name affixed, they end up reflecting poorly on her.

“Dr. Harr is a highly capable persom with an obvious personel interest in doing what is best for Crystal. From my point of view is, he can without input from me make decisions on courses of actions to take, in order to obtain justice for Crystal”

I interpret this to mean that it doesn’t matter to you that Dr. Harr hasn’t bothered to research how people who have been successful in getting their convictions overturned managed to do so.; September 3, 2023 at 11:51 AM
kenhyderal said...: @dhall: You make that statement without actually knowing what Dr. Harr has done or has failed to do. What we can all agree on is that he did the most critical thing by actually proving she is innocent. In my opinion in a just system that should be sufficient to trump any legal protocols. Protocols that are open to manipulation to achieve any favored result by those who actually have the ability to correct the injustice of wrongly imprisoned persons, shown to be innocent. In the case of Crystal, they fear damage to their careers and to their reputations, which they hold to be more important than the life of a poor marginalized single black mother. In the case of some who were succesful, perhaps innocent or not, overturning their convictions could have been seen as a political or reputational benefit to them.; September 3, 2023 at 6:02 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; September 3, 2023 at 6:23 PM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal- I don’t know which statement you claim I made without “actually knowing what Dr. Harr has done”, but this entire blog site is Dr. Harr’s own statement about what he’s done and failed to do.

And no, neither his or Dr. Wecht’s opinions are proof of Mangum’s innocence.

Where you get the idea that we can all agree that Dr. Harr proved her innocence is beyond me.; September 4, 2023 at 6:56 AM
kenhyderal said...: @DHALL: Come on dhall; Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht proved Dr. Nicholls was wrong and it was Duke that killed Daye and not Crystal. Dr. Wecht, the world renowm pathologist and medico-legal scholar, author and professor clearly explained that what happened to Daye was an intervening cause. This is an area where he is an acknowleged expert and he showed the medical records clearly and definitively indicate that the stab wound had no medical or legal connection to his demise. Nicholl's misinformed the Court by saying it did and to her shame Roberts concurred. Even non-experts like you or I or any Juror, having read Dr. Wechts careful and comprehensive report, can understand this. Give it a re-read and then ask yourself is Crystal really guilty of second degree murder. You've suggested she was guilty of another lesser crime but in your system is someone wrongly convicted of murder automatically guilty of lesser crimes like manslaughter, attempted murder, wounding with intent etc. Dr. Wecht said, " the cause of death was an acident" , something we all acknowledge and that this accident, in his expert opinion, was an intervening causes unrelated to Crystal.; September 4, 2023 at 4:59 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; September 5, 2023 at 4:05 AM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal- It is simple. Dr. Harr will prove Crystal Mangum to be innocent when she has been freed.

Until then we have opinion and conjecture.; September 5, 2023 at 4:45 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ All those with ill-will towards Crystal Mangum: Questions, questions questions. Is there any medical evidece, whatsoever, that Daye died by being murdered by Crystal. Is Dr. Cyril Wecht dead wrong when he says Daye died because of an accident? Was Dr. Wecht's examination of the medical records, that led him to him to conclude mis-management of Daye's acute alcohol withdrawl was an intervening cause leading to his demise and which was also in no legal sense, attributable to Crystal, a dead wrong conclusion? Why is this person known to be innocent by Governor Cooper and AG Stein still being wrongly held? Were any of her pro-se MAR's refused due to substantive reasons, related to guilt or innocence and not just inconsequential violations of protocols easily, in order to facilitae Justice, correted? In North|Carolina does protocol violations always trump justice even for a poor marginalized and wrongly convicted pro-se defenant, convicted because of false information, easily shown to be wrong, given to her Jury?. Why do so many bear such ill-will to Crystal?; September 5, 2023 at 5:04 PM
kenhyderal said...: @dhall : Innocent because she was freed? No, that should be freed because she is innocent. Surely the Justice |Sytem there is not that far gone.; September 5, 2023 at 5:58 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; September 6, 2023 at 3:31 AM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal. Crystal Mangum has already been proven guilty. It’s why she’s in prison.

Dr. Harr’s opinion and conjecture aren’t proof that she is innocent.; September 6, 2023 at 4:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny --
Why do you think it's ok for you to ask questions, when you won't bother to answer ours?

Tell you what -- read through the comments here, find all the unanswered questions asked of you and respond to them.

Do that, and I'll respond to the (already previously answered) "Questions, questions questions" you have posted.

I eagerly await your response.; September 6, 2023 at 5:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, you ignore what is repeatedly pointed out to you - Daye died from medical malpractice by Duke. We all agree there. However, had Crystal not stabbed him, he would not have been in the hospital for Duke to commit malpractice, therefore the stabbing is a proximate cause of his death, and she is responsible (this is spelled out in the jury instructions). As has been explained to you numerous times, medical malpractice is not considered an independent intervening cause to cut off the proximate cause chain.

You keep arguing the same point, and no one disagrees with that part of it, but you ignore the parts you don't like.

It's simple: If Crystal had not stabbed Daye, he would not have died.; September 6, 2023 at 6:46 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 9-6-23 Read Dr. Wecht's re[port. If Daye had died in the treatment of the stab wound, then the medical malpractice in treating that would not be an intervening cause. Also see his responses to the affirmatives. Dr. Wecht, of, course as a medico-legal expert of international reputation, understands these things and apparently you do not. He saw that what the medical records clearly showed was the proximate cause was acute alcohol withdrawl, Dr. Wecht in his explanation showed that the sending of Daye to the hospital, by stabbing him, was not a proximate cause of his death. An example; I push a drunken man away causing him to sprain his ankle. His ankle is set but he goes into acute alcohol withdrawl. In treating that he suffers the same medical misadventure as Daye and ends up brain dead. Am I a murderer? Please get this straight and stop saying because Crystal was the cause of sending him to hospital, where hs was killed by Duke, she is a murderer. You are wrong, neither Welch nor Holsclaw apply. Do those here who are Lawyers agree or disagree?; September 6, 2023 at 4:30 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: I’m proud to call kenhyderal my friend.; September 7, 2023 at 5:47 AM
A Lawyer said...: kenhyderal,

I disagree.; September 7, 2023 at 9:58 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: KenhyderaL -- Dr. Wecht's "report" is just his opinion. If he disagreed with you, you'd say the same.

You are wrong Welch and Holsclaw apply.

If Crystal had not stabbed Reggie, he wouldn't have been in the hospital.

..And it's "medical-legal" according to the Cyril H. Wecht Institute Of Forensic Science and Law at Duquesne University.; September 7, 2023 at 12:49 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ A Lawyer: I may be mistaken but wasn't that you, a while ago, who posted as an Interne, At any rate, it takes a lots of chutzpah to disareee with such a highly qualified, highly recognized, world famous expert in the field of medical-legal forensics. I sincerely doubt if you have any comprable qualifications to suggest he is wrong on his take of the cause of death of Reginald Daye. Personally I can't understand how any intelligent person who reads his opinion can, soley on the basis of there own opinion and without any medical evidence to back it up, declare that Crystal murdered Daye. But hey, don't just throw it out there give us your Lawyerly reasons you believe, given the facts, that Welch or Holsclaw apply. Dr. Wecht's explanation is simple enough that any Jury would be able to understand. Judge Ridgeways instructions to the Jury were also correct but it raised no concern with the Jury because they were not told the facts about the acute alcohol withdrawal, the impending, life threatening delirium tremens, the errant esophageal intubation, the cerebral anoxia, the brain death, the elective removal from life support etc. Instead they were told by so-called experts he died from complication, albeit unspecified, to the stab wound administered by|Crystal.; September 7, 2023 at 5:17 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ The Prince: Thanks for the grammatical correction. The things I said to A Lawyer I would also say to you. Nicholl's off hand "she stabbed him, he died" would indicate a Welch or Holsclaw precedent. There is however no evidence whatsoever for Nicholl's testimony that he died from "some sort of infection or some other catastrophic event"; September 7, 2023 at 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, you should test Dr. Wecht's knowledge. As him if this cuts of liability for the stabbing:

You stab Dr. Harr, he is bleeding heavily, but it's an easily treatable wound.

Dr. Harr refuses all medical treatment.

Dr. Harr bleeds to death.

Are you liable for Dr. Harr's death?

Yes or no?; September 8, 2023 at 6:47 AM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal --

IIRC, Dr. Caligari formerly posted as "A Lawyer"

Both Dr. Caligari and Lance readily identify themselves in their comments, so I highly doubt the post from September 7, 2023 at 9:58 AM is from either of them.

I see where both "A Lawyer" and Prince Humperdinck are coming from. We know that preexisting conditions (like alcoholism) are not considered intervening causes. We know that malpractice is not an intervening cause.
I don't think it's a great jump to think that Crystal Mangum's stabbing of Daye resulted in him being admitted to DUMC (which makes her criminally responsible -- any malpractice as a result of his admittance would only warrant a civil action against DUMC).

I'm confident that the thought is that, since neither alcoholism or malpractice can be considered an intervening cause, the documented cause of death (complications of the stab wound) is correct.
Dr. Nichols' testimony (I assume you've got this quoted accurately) that Daye died from "some sort of infection or some other catastrophic event" is also correct, as any form of malpractice that leads to death would be considered catastrophic.
In agreeing with these opinions, the obvious conclusion would be that Crystal Mangum is criminally responsible.

IMO, Dr. Wecht's opinion (Daye's death was due to errant intubation), while medically accurate, doesn't focus enough on the legal aspects of the actions of either Mangum or DUMC. Had he done that, I think he would persuade more people.

Now, in regards to your consistent misspelling of Dr. Clay Nichols' name:

Linguist Lucy Pembayun stated that altering names is..."a common tactic used by playground bullies and a very effective one for belittling and denigrating others."

It's very narcissistic behavior, and reflects poorly on you.; September 8, 2023 at 8:18 AM
kenhyderal said...: OMG I spelled Dr. Nichols name with an extra l. How bullingy of me, how narcissistic of me, how demeaning of Dr. Nichols. Meanwhile you question Dr. Wecht's legal opinions despite his outstanding legal qualifications; cf. Encyclopedia.com "He has served as President of the American College of Legal Medicine, the American Academy of Forensic Sciences , and served as Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the American Board of Legal Medicine and the American College of Legal Medicine Foundation. Wecht has lectured at numerous medical, law, and other graduate schools, as well as many colleges and universities, and numerous professional organizations and governmental agencies, including Harvard Law School, Yale Medical School, the FBI Academy, and the Medical Division of the CIA". Can we infer you are, like Dr. Wecht, a Lawyer? If so, do you feel qualified to challenge his legal take on Daye's death? I take it Dr. Wecht has complete understanding of intervening cause. Do I misuderstand that Daye's alcoholism and the medical malpractice that killed him have to be related to the treatment being given him for the stab wound, for Welch or Holsclaw to apply; that's my take on reading both Dr. Wecht's report and on Judge Ridgeway's Jury instructions. Keep in mind the Jury was told he died of complications of the stab wound, something the medical records do not support.; September 8, 2023 at 2:01 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous Having no qulaification whatsoever I do not have the temerity, unlike dhall, to question or test Dr. Wecht's opinions because of his obvious outstanding CV. It seemed to me, though, Welch was a case where transfusions were refused due to religious reasons. In your hypothetical there seemed to be no intervening cause. No one other than the assailant caused any injury leading to death.; September 8, 2023 at 2:17 PM
dhall said...: Wow, Kenhyderal.

I have previously stated that I don’t believe Crystal Mangum is responsible for Daye’s death. You and I have discussed this.

What I attempted to do was explain how those who thought Mangum was guilty arrived at that opinion. With the hope that they would fill in any missing blanks. The goal being to determine how they arrived at this decision. Nothing more.

You see, Kenhyderal, being able to read information that counters one’s current belief and process it without dismissing it as false simply because it differs is a sign of maturity.

You should try it sometime.

In regards to your constant misspelling of Dr. Nichols’ name, it is demeaning to Dr. Nichols.— No less demeaning those those that refer to you as “Little Man “, or “Kenny”. You don’t see Dr. Harr doing it.

It’s a trolling tactic. Don’t feed the trolls, don’t be a troll.

And I do believe Dr. Wecht could have spent more time explaining why rulings like Welch should not apply in Mangum’s case. As I stated, that is my opinion. Throwing his CV around does nothing to change my belief.; September 9, 2023 at 6:59 AM
kenhyderal supporter said...: dhall,

Anyone who calls kenhyderal “Little Man” should be banned from this blog under the kenhyderal supporter doctrine.; September 9, 2023 at 12:36 PM
kenhyderal said...: @dhal said " I don't believe Crystal Mangum is responsible for Daye's death" Excuse my ignorance in matters legal, dhall but am I wrong thinking you also do not believe she is guilty of murder? Do you say she is guilty of some lesser but included crime that justifies keeping her in prison? Since she is charged and convicted of murder does she not have to be re-tried for one of those lesser offenses? You castigated me for mis-spelling Dr. Nichols' name, comparing it with trolls who call me kenny or little man. Not wanting to be petty, I, however, note you never cared to raise this issue with any of them but, maybe, your scolding of me will cause them to re-think thier behaviour Aside, I was not particularly demeaned by them. I just took it as an indication of their lack of civility. In regard to Dr. Nichols' name, it was simply carelessness on my part. My disrespect for him arose because I believed he lied in Court and also from his reported public record of incompetence and how his actions adversly affected my friend. .; September 9, 2023 at 2:14 PM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal- We’ve gone over most of your questions in detail on previous blog entries. I’ll address your new question in this post. You can look back to prior blog comments sections for any other answers.

“Since she is charged and convicted of murder does she not have to be re-tried for one of those lesser offenses?” I believe this would be considered “double jeopardy”, and would be a violation of Crystal Mangum’s 5th amendment rights.

“Not wanting to be petty, I, however, note you never cared to raise this issue with any of them…”
Any response to them would be, in my view, feeding the trolls. I don’t consider you a troll - which is why I called you out on your behavior.

I’m going to leave it at that. It’s not germane to the blog topic, and any further discussion would send us further off the rails.; September 10, 2023 at 10:36 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: kenhyderal,

I have the information about the party. How do I contact you?; September 10, 2023 at 5:28 PM
Anonymous said...: In most cases a successful appeal doesn't preclude a subsequent prosecution on the underlying charge(s). The re-prosecution of the original charge(s) isn't a second or new case against the defendant; it's simply a continuation of the original case. Many criminal convictions that are successfully appealed are retried.; September 11, 2023 at 4:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Nothing new in the Mangum v. Aurelius lawsuit.

Anything going on with the Writ of Coram Nobis?; September 11, 2023 at 11:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey Sid -- In Dr. Aurelius' memorandum in opposition to CGM's motion for summary judgement, there were 2 attachments - An email sent to you, and Dr. Aurelius' objections to your RFA.

You posted the objections on your blog entry entitled "North Carolina Office of Administrative Hearings: Mangum/Harr v. Aurelius/Schaeffer".

Did you post the email too?; September 11, 2023 at 12:56 PM
dhall said...: Anonymous @September 11, 2023 at 11:20 AM:

In regards to Mangum v. Aurelius, the following order was entered on 11 Sep:

ORDER - The court DISMISSES plaintiff's motions 7 ,8 ,18 ,20 ,21 ,22 ,23 , and DENIES AS MOOT defendants' motion to strike 16 . The court DIRECTS the clerk not to accept any more filings from Harr in this action. Mangum shall have until October 6, 2023, to file proof of service on defendants in accordance with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 4(l), and must file the proof of service herself, not with Harr' s assistance. Defendants shall thereafter have until October 27, 2023, to contest service of process by filing the appropriate motion. Signed by District Judge James C. Dever III on 9/11/2023. Sent via US Mail to Crystal Gail Mangum, 0801264 at North Carolina Correctional Insitution for Women, 1034 Bragg Street, Raleigh, NC 27610. (Mann, Stephanie).

Motions 7, 8, 18, 20, 22, 23 were filed by Dr. Harr on behalf Crystal Mangum.

It appears that one of the previous Anonymous commenters may be correct regarding proper service.

Before anyone starts any conspiracy theory discussion -- Dr. Harr has been writing and filing Crystal Mangum's legal documents after being forbidden from any further involvement in the Mangum case by a Wake County judge back in 2013.

Not only has he been practicing law without a license, he's doing so in direct contradiction to a 2013 court order.

Dr. Harr should discuss this with Crystal Mangum as soon as possible, as she is now responsible for further filings in this case.; September 12, 2023 at 7:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Thanks dhall.

While I found the link to the Mangum v. Aurelius lawsuit (apparently a civil suit claiming violations of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 5th and 14th amendments), I don't see any documentation regarding who was served for this lawsuit.

Based on the documents listed on PacerMonitor, it looks like the legal documents were sent via certified mail to Asst. A.G. John Schaeffer. I can't confirm that this is correct -- should it have gone to him or to Dr. Aurelius?

Regardless, the claim is that Dr. Aurelius violated the civil rights act, 5th and 14th amendments by not responding to the 25 affirmatives.

What I don't understand is that In a civil action, affirmatives are part of a request for admission ( a discovery device that allows one party to request that another party admit or deny the truth of a statement under oath. -- thanks, Cornell Law School).

Requests for admission are part of the discovery for an ongoing civil case. I don't think they can serve as the basis for a civil lawsuit itself. If anything, they should have been submitted in the Kody Kinsley/DHHS lawsuit, but they weren't.

Any lawyer input here?; September 12, 2023 at 8:30 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sid -- You gonna comment in response to the Mangum v. Aurelius court order dhall posted?; September 12, 2023 at 8:44 AM
Pronounced 'Āng-'ŭs 'Yŭng said...: Civil court, got my eye on a honey
filing suits for her
She might be wrong, she might want my money
I really don't care, no

I said, "Baby, you need my advocatin'
time to start playin' ball
When a guy with a court order said
"Buddy, stop practicin' law", aw!

Shot down in flames
Shot down in flames
Ain't it a shame, yeah
To be shot down in flames?; September 12, 2023 at 9:07 AM
dhall said...: In regards to my comment on September 3, 2023 at 11:27 AM --

I emailed Dr. Wecht at his faculty email address. No response to date to my email, but Dr. Wecht may have contacted Dr. Harr about his posting of the affidavit to this website.; September 12, 2023 at 9:19 AM
Tyrone Rugen said...: I just noticed that Sid filed a letter notifying the court of intent to file motion on plaintiff's behalf (on March 7, 2023).

He actually told the court he was filing on her behalf.

I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard.

[pause]

How marvelous.

No wonder the judge placed this order.; September 12, 2023 at 10:51 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: I expected to see a comment from Sid about the Sep 11 order by now. He’s approving comments, so he should know about it.; September 13, 2023 at 4:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny -

Rather than whine about injustice - why don't you point out that the Judge said exactly what everyone has been saying to Sid on this case - you need to get service proper - he knows how to do it, he's done it many times - why is he refusing here?

The Judge is actually giving yet another chance to get it right. Will Sid try, or will you and Sid just whine and cry that you aren't getting special treatment?

Ha, we all know - you will scream injustice, Sid will scream conspiracy, and again when you are told exactly how to help Crystal, you both will refuse.; September 13, 2023 at 4:28 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: With every legal document Sid has prepared for Crystal Mangum, he violated N.C. Gen. Stat. § 84-4, which states in part:
"...it shall be unlawful for any person or association of persons except active members of the Bar...for or without a fee or consideration, to give legal advice or counsel, perform for or furnish to another legal services..." (highlights mine).

Before Kenny side-tracks us, the same activities Sid's been doing for CGM are prohibited by the Canada Legal Profession Act.; September 13, 2023 at 7:38 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

First, I'd like to thank dhall for the comment which I read just minutes prior to my hour visit with Crystal on Tuesday.

I don't believe that the improper service defense carries weight as service was made and the court was notified with a return receipt form filed about February 20, 2023. Like Mangum's malicious prosecution complaint, the defendants were unable to fight facts... only use technicality trivialities.

Regardless, Mangum will go ahead and do her best to comply with the order to reserve the summons... although the court is not making it easy for her by its attempts to keep me from helping her in any way. What the court fails to comprehend is that Crystal Mangum is in prison. That naturally makes it extremely difficult for her to file documents with the court. Not to mention that movement of mail in the prison is very slow... if it moves at all.

Anyway, will be working on other projects, and may not be able to take as much time as I would like to respond to comments. Again, dhall, and all other commenters, thank you for keeping me aware of what's going on in courts and elsewhere. I checked the docket on the morning of September 11th, prior to Judge Dever's Order, so had it not been brought to my attention by dhall on the 12th, I might not have found out about the order until next week.

As you were.; September 13, 2023 at 2:23 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sid - the court is trying to keep you from practicing law without a license…In other words, they’re trying to keep you from breaking the law.; September 13, 2023 at 2:34 PM
Nifong Supporter Supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

In light of the developments noted by dhall, have you begun to work on new secret projects?; September 13, 2023 at 3:05 PM
dhall said...: You’re welcome, Dr. Harr.

I’m not aware of any “improper service” defense. I know an Anonymous poster stated “It is your responsibility to show the Court that the lawsuit was properly served”. This is Crystal Mangum’s opportunity to do so.

I know there was a USPS Form 3811 addressed to Asst. A.G. John Schaeffer documented in the case (Feb 17, 2023). I have no idea if this is considered “service”, or if it was sent to the correct person.

WRT mail, I know NC uses a 3rd party company to intercept and copy inbound inmate letters (long story, but it’s an effort to lower the amount of drugs getting into prison).

This 3rd party doesn’t deal with court documents, however. If there’s an issue with getting legal documents in a timely manner, that should be taken up with the post office first.; September 13, 2023 at 4:26 PM
Anonymous said...: The service was made on the attorney - you have been told here for months that was not proper. Don't whine now and pretend it's a burden. You could have fixed it as soon as it was pointed out and you refused to do so. This is all on you. Service is not a technicality, it's jurisdictional - and the fact it has been pointed out to you repeatedly, and you ignored it, is proof you don't want to help Crystal, you want to pretend, because you have her captive.

You are as much of an abuser of Crystal and Daye ever was. It's sad.; September 13, 2023 at 4:48 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Prince Humperdinck said...
With every legal document Sid has prepared for Crystal Mangum, he violated N.C. Gen. Stat. § 84-4, which states in part:
"...it shall be unlawful for any person or association of persons except active members of the Bar...for or without a fee or consideration, to give legal advice or counsel, perform for or furnish to another legal services..." (highlights mine).

Before Kenny side-tracks us, the same activities Sid's been doing for CGM are prohibited by the Canada Legal Profession Act.

September 13, 2023 at 7:38 AM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck.

As I've stated many times, NC State Bar-accredited attorneys allowed Mangum to be convicted of murder when a crime was not even committed... and the Direct Appeal was an abomination. Also post-conviction lawyers allowed statute of limitation to expire on the malicious prosecution case. Also all attorneys I contacted refused to accept Mangum as a client, including the NAACP and ACLU.

Because of the above, the NC State Bar has been reluctant to take action against me. (NOTE: I even asked the State Bar for an attorney reference for Mangum.); September 13, 2023 at 7:18 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: dhall said...
In regards to my comment on September 3, 2023 at 11:27 AM --

I emailed Dr. Wecht at his faculty email address. No response to date to my email, but Dr. Wecht may have contacted Dr. Harr about his posting of the affidavit to this website.

September 12, 2023 at 9:19 AM

Hey, dhall.

Why bother Dr. Wecht? Why should he respond to you? What I think might be more effective would be if you were to contact a media's investigative reporter and ask him/her to then contact Dr. Wecht to ask him about his opinions about Mangum's guilt or innocence. Dr. Wecht is a busy man, so I do not believe you will receive a response. However, he is a very gracious person, so you might, on the other hand, hear from him.

Also, thanks again for letting me know about the Order... otherwise I might not have learned about it till next week.

September 13, 2023 at 7:23 PM; September 13, 2023 at 7:29 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: “As I've stated many times, NC State Bar-accredited attorneys allowed Mangum to be convicted of murder when a crime was not even committed”. Stating this doesn’t make it true. What is true is that you are directly responsible for 2 of her attorneys leaving her case.

“and the Direct Appeal was an abomination.” Grounds for appeal in a criminal case include legal error, juror misconduct and ineffective assistance of counsel. The only option available for the appeal was the use of Milton Walker’s testimony.

“Also post-conviction lawyers allowed statute of limitation to expire on the malicious prosecution case.” Mangum’s post-conviction lawyers were there for her criminal case only. Malicious prosecution is a civil claim. Mangum would have to hire a lawyer or file the claim herself. She did neither. That’s her (and your) fault.

“Also all attorneys I contacted refused to accept Mangum as a client, including the NAACP and ACLU.”
You did a poor job contacting them. That’s your fault. You’re not a lawyer, you weren’t a witness to the events, and you’re not even licensed to practice medicine. Stop acting like you are. I guarantee you that you can find a lawyer if you’re willing to pay. We know Joe Cheshire isn’t afraid to take on the DA or Duke.

Not sure about NCAAP, but the ACLU only accepts civil cases. Mangum had no valid civil cases- that’s why they refused.; September 13, 2023 at 8:03 PM
dhall said...: Why bother Dr. Wecht?

Curiosity. I wanted to know why he felt it necessary to sign an affidavit obviously written by you for an OAH hearing.

Neither here nor there, but it seems to me that the issue you have is with John Schaeffer, not Dr. Aurelius. Your "supplement to prehearing statement" only mentions that Dr. Aurelius issued her autopsy review -- which is in line with the settlement agreement to dismiss the original lawsuit.

What I think might be more effective would be if you were to contact a media's investigative reporter and ask him/her to then contact Dr. Wecht to ask him about his opinions about Mangum's guilt or innocence.

MOO, it would be more effective if Dr. Wecht had reached out to someone in a similar role at a North Carolina university (in a personal rather than professional manner) who is better equipped to review his opinion and offer some legal assistance to Crystal Mangum -- Say Dr. James Coleman (who's expertise is in criminal law, wrongful convictions, and the appellate litigation -- and is the faculty advisor to the Innocence Project).

Did you not think of this?

As you say, Dr. Wecht is a very gracious person. If you ask him, perhaps he'll reach out to Dr. Coleman.; September 14, 2023 at 6:41 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: "Because of the above, the NC State Bar has been reluctant to take action against me."

They have taken action against you.

Your continued violations of N.C. Gen. Stat. § 84-4, and Local Civil Rule 83.1, years-long history of baseless federal litigation, repeated refusals to heed court warnings, and improper, unauthorized legal assistance to Mangum in violation of the Wake County Superior Court's injunction against you are a guarantee that you will lose any lawsuit you prepare or file for Crystal Mangum.

All the court needs to do is point to the 2013 injunction against you, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 84-4, and Local Civil Rule 83.1 to get your lawsuits thrown out.

It really is that simple.; September 14, 2023 at 8:22 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Blogger dhall said...
Why bother Dr. Wecht?

Curiosity. I wanted to know why he felt it necessary to sign an affidavit obviously written by you for an OAH hearing.

Neither here nor there, but it seems to me that the issue you have is with John Schaeffer, not Dr. Aurelius. Your "supplement to prehearing statement" only mentions that Dr. Aurelius issued her autopsy review -- which is in line with the settlement agreement to dismiss the original lawsuit.

What I think might be more effective would be if you were to contact a media's investigative reporter and ask him/her to then contact Dr. Wecht to ask him about his opinions about Mangum's guilt or innocence.

MOO, it would be more effective if Dr. Wecht had reached out to someone in a similar role at a North Carolina university (in a personal rather than professional manner) who is better equipped to review his opinion and offer some legal assistance to Crystal Mangum -- Say Dr. James Coleman (who's expertise is in criminal law, wrongful convictions, and the appellate litigation -- and is the faculty advisor to the Innocence Project).

Did you not think of this?

As you say, Dr. Wecht is a very gracious person. If you ask him, perhaps he'll reach out to Dr. Coleman.

September 14, 2023 at 6:41 AM

Hey, dhall.

Follow the timeline/sequence:
The Office of Administrative Hearings sets the hearing date of October 2nd;
The OAH learns that Mangum plans on calling Dr. Wecht as a witness by teleconference;
Within a week of learning about Dr. Wecht planning to testify, OAH essentially cancels the hearing.

With the recorded hearing off the table and therefore eliminating the opportunity of Dr. Wecht testifying, the next best thing would be a sworn affidavit by the famed forensic pathologist.

With regards to Dr. Wecht, keep in mind that he is not an advocate. He is a medicolegal analyst of integrity, so he values his reputation as being objective, impartial, and honest. So, he is therefore not going to be contacting anyone.

Also, Law Professor James Coleman is on the faculty of Duke University School of Law, not UNC-CH School of Law. Therefore, I would not want him to put his livelihood in jeopardy by telling the truths about Crystal Mangum's innocence.; September 14, 2023 at 7:44 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said...
"Because of the above, the NC State Bar has been reluctant to take action against me."

They have taken action against you.

Your continued violations of N.C. Gen. Stat. § 84-4, and Local Civil Rule 83.1, years-long history of baseless federal litigation, repeated refusals to heed court warnings, and improper, unauthorized legal assistance to Mangum in violation of the Wake County Superior Court's injunction against you are a guarantee that you will lose any lawsuit you prepare or file for Crystal Mangum.

All the court needs to do is point to the 2013 injunction against you, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 84-4, and Local Civil Rule 83.1 to get your lawsuits thrown out.

It really is that simple.

September 14, 2023 at 8:22 AM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck.

What action has the NC State Bar taken against me? I am unaware. Maybe you or dhall can find out and let me know.

The reason Judge Dever has attacked me for helping Crystal Mangum (who is incarcerated and whom attorneys refuse to represent) is because he has a desired outcome to help Duke University and the State, so he diverted attention from the facts of the case and law, and focusing on the bogus technicality of improper service of summons and complaint as a reason for inaction on the lawsuit... which was part of judicial delay.; September 14, 2023 at 7:56 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: "What action has the NC State Bar taken against me? I am unaware. Maybe you or dhall can find out and let me know."

Really? In December 2012, NC State Bar's Authorized Practice Committee filed a civil action to enjoin you from filing pleadings on behalf of Crystal Mangum. The Bar obtained this injunction in February 2013.

It's in the N.C. State Bar's 2013 Annual Report.

It's because the The Bar filed an injunction on you in civil court that a Wake County judge forbade you from further involvement in the Crystal Mangum murder trial.

You even admitted in your post about the February 2013 hearing that you were "trounced. The Bar was granted its injunction".

Lance (at that time "the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment") posted a summary of the injunction, stating that you are prohibited from "providing any...legal advice...including but not limited to...advising others to file certain pleadings with the court."

You wrote about this, and you don't remember it?

That speaks volumes.; September 15, 2023 at 7:39 AM
dhall said...: "Hey, dhall.

Follow the timeline/sequence:
The Office of Administrative Hearings sets the hearing date of October 2nd;
The OAH learns that Mangum plans on calling Dr. Wecht as a witness by teleconference;
Within a week of learning about Dr. Wecht planning to testify, OAH essentially cancels the hearing."

Dr. Harr -- The Office of Administrative Hearings was created to ensure that the functions of rulemaking, investigation, advocacy and adjudication are not combined in the administrative process.

I haven't seen your initial filing (apparently you never posted it) but there's nothing in your prehearing supplement document that I read that shows that Dr. Aurelius (Or DHHS) combined "functions of rulemaking, investigation, advocacy and adjudication are not combined in the administrative process."

Can Crystal Mangum point to that specific section within the document (it is, after all, "her" filing)?

If Crystal Mangum can't, then the court has the right to ask for additional proof that she is a "person aggrieved".

As I stated earlier, as per the settlement agreement to dismiss the original lawsuit, Dr. Aurelius issued her autopsy review. She met her responsibility.

Filing for a contested hearing case simply because you don't like the review is NOT grounds for an OAH contested hearing.

You keep stating that "OAH essentially cancels the hearing."

I see nothing about the hearing being cancelled in the ex mero motu order. Did Crystal Mangum meet the requirements for filing her required documents in a timely manner?

In regards to Dr. Wecht, The Cyril H. Wecht insitute of Forensic Science and Law at Duquesne University "...seeks to engender in its participants an interdisciplinary approach to our collective pursuit of public safety and legal and social justice."

I would argue that NOT contacting someone about this matter violates the very mission of the institute. Feel free to prove me wrong by asking him, and posting the documentation for his response on this website.

In regards to Dr. Coleman, he's defended serial killer TED BUNDY, securing 3 stays of execution.
Coleman and the Wrongful Convictions Clinic have succeeded in exonerating people convicted of murder, people convicted of kidnapping, and so on. I don't think he or the legal organizations her directs care who the defendant is -- only whether they are innocent and wrongfully convicted.

I NAMATH guarantee you that if you ask him if assisting Crystal Mangum would "put his livelihood in jeopardy" he would tell you "No". Feel free to prove me wrong by asking him, and posting the documentation for his response on this website.; September 15, 2023 at 9:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You were told months ago service was improper, and told exactly how to fix it. You refused. Instead you whined and wanted special treatment.

This is all on you. If you really wanted to help, you would have fixed what was an obvious and discussed problem long ago.

I hope Crystal realizes you aren't really her friend - you are just trying to manipulate her so she continues to meet with you.; September 15, 2023 at 10:57 AM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal -- Here are a number of questions and comments addressed to you that you have yet to respond to:

Can you provide examples of you posting " the truth..anywhere else [you] have access to, the undeniable facts of Crystal's innocence..."?

Where is your proof that no Court appointed North Carolina Lawyer wanted to take on Duke or the "powers that be"?

Where is your proof that it would take an out-of state "dream team" ($$) to do take the Crystal Mangum case?

If a judge reviews an MAR filed Pro Se and determines that it is not frivolous, will the judge appoint an attorney to represent the person filing the MAR? If not, where is this documented?

How many MARs has Crystal Mangum filed?

Has an attorney ever been appointed to present her for these MARs? If not, why not?

In addition to these questions, and in light the recent order in the Mangum v. Aurelius case:

In creating and filing Crystal Mangum's lawsuits, has Dr. Harr broken the law? Can you provide proof that he has not broken the law in doing so?

If he had done the same in Canada, would it be breaking the law? Can you provide proof that it isn't breaking the law on doing so?

I await your response.; September 16, 2023 at 9:08 AM
Nifong Supporter Supporter said...: kenhyderal,

When Doctor Harr posted this blog entry on August 20, he requested that you assist him in responding to the Order for Supplemental Briefs filed on August 10 in the NC Office of Administrative Hearings. When will we hear from you?; September 17, 2023 at 6:14 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhall Q.1 - Not extant but a statement of intent. Q.2/3 Intended motivation i.e. intention unprovable but history and manufactured excuses are informative. Q. 4- Yes, and I expect that she would get the same zero effort and non-performance that all her previously appointed Lawyers have given her Q. 5 - 3 Q.6- ?? Q 7- "If the law supposes that, the law is a ass"(Dickens) Q.8/9- In Canada (imo) MAR number one would have been successful. In Canada pro-se litigants are often but not always given latitude. Canadian Judges are non-political.; September 17, 2023 at 1:43 PM
dhall said...: Ah. I see.

SO, based on your responses....

Q 1: You can't provide examples because there are none.
Q 2-3: These statements you made without proof and cannot be considered truths.
Q 4: Yes, it is true per North Carolina law
Q 5: Multiple MARs have been filed.
Q 6: No. No lawyer has been appointed to represent Crystal Mangum in the MAR filings. They have all been considered frivolous per the judge 5.
Q 7: Yes, Dr. Harr has broken the law.
Q 8: Yes, Dr. Harr would be breaking Canadian law.

We've got those questions addressed, so there's need to address them further.

Thanks for your responses.; September 18, 2023 at 5:41 AM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Right on kenhyderal. And let me just say that I am proud to call kenhyderal my friend.; September 18, 2023 at 9:16 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhall : And a few questions for you. From what you've learned here, thanks to Dr. Harr, do you believe Crystal Mangum was rightly or wrongly convicted of murder and is correctly incarcerated? Do you believe the Jury had all the relevant and correct information to make a just decision? Do you believe Dr. Nichols' stated cause of death was correct ie Daye died of complications of the stab wound thereby invoking a Welch precident. Do you believed Dr. Wecht's was wrong in saying Daye died of an accident not a homicide? I've asked you these questions in one way or another before and all of your answers/statements were based on opinion not facts. I'll note the list of questions you posed were pretty trivial contrasted against the undeniable seriousness of my questions about wrongful incarceration of an innocent person.; September 18, 2023 at 3:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Has anyone noticed they Kenny won’t said a word about Sid’s months long failure to properly serve the lawsuit? Even after he was told it was a problem, and told how to fix it?; September 18, 2023 at 5:29 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Cousin Kenny,

You deserve answers to your questions.; September 19, 2023 at 4:04 AM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal - My opinion about Crystal Mangum's conviction predates any blog or comment here. The tactic of overcharging defendants used by the Durham County DA's office to boost their conviction rates has been a known issue for quite some time -- the DA's office prior to Mike Nifong used it, Mike Nifong's office used it, as did Tracey Kline's.

Durham latest DA, Satana Deberry, is a breath of fresh air in this respect.

How anyone can support Mike Nifong and Tracey Kline while complaining about Crystal Mangum's treatment under the Tracey Kline DA's office is beyond me, yet Dr. Harr manages to do it.

Did the jury have all the information to make a just decision? I can't speak for the jury. I know I had enough information to make a decision at the time of the trial.

As to the rest, I've previously answered them -- go back and re-read my comments.

And no, my questions weren't trivial. There is a point to the questions I asked. Your responses lead me to believe that you (although you won't say it out loud) believe that Dr. Harr is incapable of successfully representing Crystal Mangum in her legal efforts -- whether that is due to Dr. Harr's lack of understanding the "System" and it's "technicality trivialities", I'll leave to you.; September 19, 2023 at 7:13 AM
kenhyderal said...: @dhall: You are wrong. Your questions, which it seems the purpose of was, trying to aly me with those contemptious of Dr.Harr, the retired physician but non-Lawyer whose made efforts on behalf of Crystal, after he saw through and cried out strongly about the injustice. It was something no Court appointed Laywer ever did. All of them hardly gave Crystal "the time of day". To them she was just another botherson, time consuming and income reducing burden, they were obliged to provide a defence to, always looking for ways to "get off the hook" of defending an unpopular defendant who has been wrongly discredited by the, "dream team" Lawyers of those she accused. Then, there was " the powers that be, there in North Carolina, who, it seems, have a vested interest in championing the Duke Lacrosse Players. Both former DA Nifong and Dr. Harr are victims of their effort to discredit. One more question, if I may, would you answer Dr. Harr's affirmatives, if not why not?; September 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM
dhall said...: I am wrong? About what, exactly?

I'm wrong because you think Dr. Harr IS capable of successfully representing Crystal Mangum in her legal efforts?

You are willing to state now, here in this blog, that it is your belief that Dr. Harr can successfully represent Crystal Mangum -- even after YEARS of attempts and failures?

By all means please do -- I'll accept my being wrong in this instance.

Answer Dr. Harr's affirmatives? No. They call for speculation on events that I wasn't party to. Further, a number of them ask for an opinion rather than fact.; September 20, 2023 at 12:58 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhall: You have answered your first question yourself. Indigent pro-se litigants deserve latitude. Dr. Harr did what was necessary to prove her innocence but in your sick Justice System procedure violations, in litigeous America easily found, can be and are used by those wishing to deny. We all know costly legal representation, beyond her means, would have gotten the same results because Cooper and Duke Inc., for political reasons, want Crystal where she is. If there is any Justice in North Carolina, Crystal would have been released as soon as it was discovered by Dr. Harr and any other knowlegable persons, given the facts, including Nichols' and Roberts'and I dare say you that Daye's death was not a homicide. To your second question; yes with the caveat that all, like you, who can see her innocence, protest. Hopefully that will shame all those who hope to keep her in prison to relent. All it would take is, for the reason critical facts were not heard by her Jury, to grant her a new trial. I.m.o. any jury given the facts would declare her innocent. As to the affirmatives, knowing what you know, being a party or not, you must have formed an opinion. Maybe you, like many Lawyers there, are also reluctant to "stick your neck out" for Crystal.; September 20, 2023 at 4:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny still refuses to answer why he is giving Dr. Harr a pass on not getting proper service. It was pointed out for months that it was wrong.

If you really want to help Crystal, wouldn't you encourage Sid to get it right? Not whine about injustice, not demand special treatment - it would have simply taken a certified letter to the right person (the person who was identified to Sid). Instead you both ignore it and are now whining Crystal may not be able to get it done.

If you really wanted to help Crystal, why wouldn't you listen to clear advice and get it right?; September 20, 2023 at 4:59 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: kenhyderal,

In addition to the “powers that be in North Carolina,” let’s not forget that Rae Evans was instrumental in having Crystal’s claim against the Lacrosse Players dismissed.; September 20, 2023 at 5:29 PM
dhall said...: Kenhdyeral - Show me ONE legal case in Canada since Crystal Mangum was convicted where someone practicing law without a license won a legal battle for a 3rd party.

Dr. Harr is practicing law without a license. You somehow think this is the justice system's fault.

Dr. Harr alienated the organizations that could have represented Crystal Mangum for free. You somehow think this is the justice system's fault.

It's a ridiculous argument on your part, and I'm not wasting anymore time trying to convince you otherwise.

I will, however, continue to point out to others why Dr. Harr's legal attempts on Crystal Mangum's behalf will fail. The readers here are pretty much guaranteed they'll read my comments for the next 2.5 years.

As Walt and others so often stated,

With friends like you, Crystal Mangum doesn't need enemies.; September 21, 2023 at 6:11 AM
Anonymous said...: "Indigent pro-se litigants deserve latitude."

I agree. What they DON'T deserve is having someone illegally doing their litigation for them.

Especially when that "someone" doesn't bother to do any actual legal research.

Yet here we are.; September 21, 2023 at 11:48 AM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said "I will, however, continue to point out to others why Dr. Harr's legal attempts on Crystal Mangum's behalf will fail. The readers here are pretty much guaranteed they'll read my comments for the next 2.5 years"----- I'm quessing what you will point out is procedural violations. The fact Crystal is innocent and wrongly incarcerated means nothing. It's no surprise that you would not answer the affirmatives. Taking in to account the available facts and answering the affirmatives, like Dr. Wecht did, honestly and in accordance with reason, would constitute an admission, on your part, of her innocence, something any good Citizen would then have the civic duty to speak out against and to demand that justice be served. It appears, though, most people there are loath to "stick out there neck" on behalf of marginalized Crystal against Duke Inc and Gov. Cooper et al.; September 22, 2023 at 9:24 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sid --

The court order dhall wrote about on September 12, 2023 at 7:19 AM was sent to CGM September 11.

The summons for Dr. Aurelius was reissued on Sep 12, and it looks like a copy was sent to CGM that day.

Do you know when/if CGM received them?

She has until October 6, 2023, to file proof of service on defendants...So there's only 2 weeks left to file.; September 22, 2023 at 9:39 AM
dhall said...: Here's a link to the full version of the order I identified on Sep 12th.

Going forward, any motion that appears to be performed by Dr. Harr on behalf of Crystal Mangum will be considered improperly filed.; September 22, 2023 at 11:04 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Wanna know why his latest attempt will fail? Because, despite everyone here telling him it was served improperly, despite the Defendants filing and saying it was filed improperly, despite being told how to easily fix that issue, Sid refused.

It will fail because he doesn't want to succeed.; September 22, 2023 at 1:17 PM
dhall said...: It's no surprise that you would not answer the affirmatives...."

I didn't participate in the medical treatment of Mr. Daye, I didn't observe his autopsy, and I don't have a medical background. I feel it would be a lie for me to answer these affirmatives as if I did.

Dr. Wecht, Dr. Harr, and you feel otherwise. That's fine.
I don't expect any of you to change your opinion based on my feelings. Don't expect me to change my opinion based on yours.

"Taking in to account the available facts and answering the affirmatives, like Dr. Wecht did, honestly and in accordance with reason, would constitute an admission, on your part, of her innocence.."

I don't know how many times I have to state this:

I did not at the time of her trial and do not now believe that Crystal Mangum is guilty of 2nd degree murder but rather a lesser charge for which she should have been convicted

"I'm quessing[SIC] what you will point out is procedural violations."

You don't need to worry about me pointing out procedural violations.
We no longer need to worry about Dr. Harr's legal attempts on Crystal Mangum's behalf.
Read the linked court order from my previous comment.; September 22, 2023 at 2:10 PM
guiowen said...: Kenny,
What I notice is that Wecht won't "stick his neck out" for Crystal. It's probably just because he's senile.; September 22, 2023 at 8:50 PM
Nifong Supporter Supporter said...: kenhyderal,

Now, more than ever, Dr. Harr needs your help. Can Dr. Harr count on you?; September 23, 2023 at 9:50 AM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said: "Going forward, any motion that appears to be performed by Dr. Harr on behalf of Crystal Mangum will be considered improperly filed".. "Yep" they're getting scared and resorting to extraordinary meausures to try and shut Dr. Harr down as he overcomes every manufactured obstacle, put in the way, in his relentless search for justice. "The truth will out", then citizen outrage will begin to mount. Eventually those who shirked their moral duty will be disgraced. Then watch them try and scramble to justify themselves. That will probably also include all of those who tried to condone their actions.; September 23, 2023 at 11:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Why are you still ignoring Sid's deliberate ignoring of the service issue?

This is why none of us take you seriously.; September 23, 2023 at 11:37 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sorry Kenny --

What they're doing is they're getting tired of Sid continually breaking the law.

Frankly, so am I.

As you can PLAINLY read, Mangum can file her motions (for this, and any other lawsuit) Pro Se. They just removed the "legal layperson" from conducting litigation on her behalf.

How about this -- YOU ask any Canadian judge if I ,without any professional legal qualifications or licensure, can conduct litigation on someone else's behalf. Let us know the judge's name and his response.

Now, why don't you and your Mangum buddies resort to your own extraordinary measures (for you), and ya know....Hire her a lawyer.; September 23, 2023 at 11:38 AM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said: "I didn't participate in the medical treatment of Mr. Daye, I didn't observe his autopsy, and I don't have a medical background. I feel it would be a lie for me to answer these affirmatives as if I did"-------- And then there are "lies of omission". Crystal's Jury was not composed of people with medical backgrounds. You have the distinct benefit of knowing information they never heard. A Jury of Crystal's peers, if told, would be able to understand that there is absolutely no evidence to substaniate what Dr. Nichols', stated, under oath and understanable facts contained in Daye's medical records contradict that notion. Back to the charge of murder I am heartened that you agree that murder was an over-charge but that is what she has been wrongly convicted of. Again I ask in your justice system,if convicted of murder does that automatically encompass all the lesser charges and for which she does not need to be re-tried? If so isn't over-charging the way to go for well prepared Prosecutors building a case during months of pre-trial incarceraton vs. dis-interested and ill-prepared Court appointed Defenders, like Meier who asked for and was refuse time to prepare?; September 23, 2023 at 5:00 PM
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dhall said...: ‘And then there are "lies of omission”’

I have no idea what you are referring to here. I certainly didn’t omit anything. I had access to the same information at the time of the trial that the jurors did. There was no “distinct benefit”.

Going forward, I am no longer addressing any questions in your posts that have been previously answered- either by me or someone else. It’s an apparent waste of time.; September 24, 2023 at 5:22 AM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Nifong Supporter Supporter:

kenhyderal is working on his secret plans to win a new trial for Crystal and compensation from North Carolina. You will see the results soon.; September 24, 2023 at 6:54 AM
Tyrone Rugen said...: Yes indeed, there are lies of omission.

You keep blabbing about all that Sid has done for poor, marginalized CGM.

And omit the fact that he’s breaking the law.

I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard.

[pause]

How marvelous.; September 24, 2023 at 8:55 AM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 24, 2023 at 2:43 PM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said re lies of omission : " I have no idea what you are referring to here. I certainly didn’t omit anything. I had access to the same information at the time of the trial that the jurors did. There was no “distinct benefit”...... Re-read my post. You previously said: I didn't participate in the medical treatment of Mr. Daye, I didn't observe his autopsy, and I don't have a medical background. I feel it would be a lie for me to answer these affirmatives as if I did". You say it would be a lie for you to answer the affirmatives. I'm suggesting it might be a lie of omission by not doing so because the informationn available to you is so clear that honestly answering the affirmatives woulld lead to but one conclusion. I'm not faulting the jury . Not only were they subjected to lies of omission but also to the provable lie of the cause of Daye's death. But now you aren't at their disadvantage because you know all the facts; September 24, 2023 at 2:44 PM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said: "Going forward, I am no longer addressing any questions in your posts that have been previously answered- either by me or someone else. It’s an apparent waste of time" ... Some questions I have asked just like Dr. Harr's affirmatives, needed but a yes or no answer and an affirmative answer would, logically, lead to one conclusion Crystal did not murder Daye and she is wrongly convicted of murder and justice demands that this be corrected. I'm unsure what questions you say I asked of you that you answered. I'm sure if I was dissatisfied with your answer I would have countered with further arguements as to why Crystal must get a new trial.; September 24, 2023 at 3:02 PM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said: "Going forward, I am no longer addressing any questions in your posts that have been previously answered- either by me or someone else. It’s an apparent waste of time" ... Some questions I have asked just like Dr. Harr's affirmatives, needed but a yes or no answer and an affirmative answer would, logically, lead to one conclusion Crystal did not murder Daye and she is wrongly convicted of murder and justice demands that this be corrected. I'm unsure what questions you say I asked of you that you answered. I'm sure if I was dissatisfied with your answer I would have countered with further arguements as to why Crystal must get a new trial.; September 24, 2023 at 3:02 PM
Nifong Supporter Supporter said...: kenhyderal supporter: Thank you for providing that information.

kenhyderal: Please confirm the status of your secret plans.; September 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM
dhall said...: Kenhyderal -- "I'm suggesting it might be a lie of omission by not doing so because the informationn available to you is so clear that honestly answering the affirmatives woulld lead to but one conclusion."

What conclusion? That Crystal Mangum isn't guilty of murder? I don't need to answer the affirmatives to come to that conclusion.

"I'm unsure what questions you say I asked of you that you answered."

Re-read my comment. I'm not the only one responding to your questions.
Re-read your post. Look for the sentences that end with a question mark (?). Re-read the comments posted here. Find your answers.; September 25, 2023 at 7:02 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: I expected *something* from Sid regarding the latest court order in Mangum v. Aurelius.

and Kenny -- speaking of "Some questions...asked just like Dr. Harr's affirmatives, needed but a yes or no answer"

You never actually answered the question "In creating and filing Crystal Mangum's lawsuits, has Dr. Harr broken the law?"

It IS a simple yes or no answer - not some "the law is an ass" quote that doesn't answer the question. He's either breaking the law or he's not.; September 25, 2023 at 9:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid -

Do you know when/if CGM received the Sep 11 court order?; September 25, 2023 at 10:59 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ The Prince: My answer is Yes. But," if the law supposes that then the law is an ass" (Mr. Bumble) Dr. Harr, violates that unjust law in the long and honorable African American tradition of civil disobedience against unjust laws such as that one.; September 25, 2023 at 2:40 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dhall said: What conclusion? That Crystal Mangum isn't guilty of murder? I don't need to answer the affirmatives to come to that conclusion. ..... We agree and because of that, will you now join in the demand she be released? Good citizenship would demand that of you. One wrongly imprisoned American harms all Americans. Championing her cause would be the right thing to do, although given the vested interests and the political situation there in North Carolina,it might require a little moral courage.; September 25, 2023 at 2:54 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Have been, and remain, very busy but thought I would take time to address the September 11th order by Judge James C. Dever. Below is the basic timeline:
Monday, September 11th -- Judge Dever issues four-page order giving Mangum until October 6th to present evidence of service of summons and complaint;
Tuesday, September 12th -- I went to Federal Court to pick up signed and stamped original copies of the summons, and the Clerk of Court was called. Because of the order, the court would not give the summons to me, and instead said they would mail them to Crystal in prison;
Friday, September 15th -- Crystal receives the Summons in the mail;
Tuesday, September 19th -- Crystal mails me the Summons -- I re-print two sets of complete complaint and exhibits of evidence that were filed on January 27, 2023;
Friday, September 22nd -- I receive Crystal's letter with copies of the signed and stamped original summons -- later that afternoon I presented to the Wake County Sheriff's Office the summons and complaint, and paid for them. I was told that I needed to have a self-address/stamped-envelope before the summons and complaints could be served. Unable to get a self-addressed/stamped-envelope before the Sheriff's Office closed, I elected to bring the envelope on Monday;
Monday, September 25th -- I took one self-addressed/stamped-envelope to the Sheriff's Office, then was told I needed a second envelope... one for each defendant, despite defendants being at the same address. I asked when the summons/complaint would be served, and was told within sixty days. I then explained the need to have proof of service filed by October 6th. It seems that they did not fully comprehend, so I told them I would show them the order, and made sure that one order would suffice. I was told I would need two orders... one for each defendant. So, I went home, got another self-addressed/stamped-envelope, and printed two four-page orders and highlighted where the October 6th deadline was mentioned. After submitting everything that was supposedly required for service of the summons/complaint to be initiated I was told to call back on October 5th to check on the status of the service of summons/complaint.

That's where things now stand the evening of Monday, September 25th.

As you were.; September 25, 2023 at 7:10 PM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny,; September 26, 2023 at 5:40 AM
dhall said...: Crystal Mangum's "cause" starts with her getting proper legal support. Good citizenship demands that. Where is Dr. Harr's good citizenship? Where is yours?

What I have seen is Dr. Harr driving away her lawyers, alienating her from organizations that can help, and acting as a lawyer even though he has neither the legal right nor the knowledge to do so. What I have seen is you applauding his actions.

At least I've provided a number of resources and given advice on how Crystal Mangum (NOT Dr. Harr) should approach them.

What have you done to get her a lawyer that can actually help her?

And no -- the laws that keep Dr. Harr from acting as a lawyer are not unjust. Were I (or anyone not a lawyer) to act in the manner he did, we would get the same treatment. These laws apply equally to everyone.

Violating them is not "civil disobedience", it's pathetic attention-seeking. Not for Crystal Mangum, but for himself. He's feeding his ego to her detriment.

You know what takes courage? Engaging the legal system in the appropriate manner. Show us your courage.

Until this happens, both you and Dr. Harr have done nothing to better Crystal Mangum's situation.; September 26, 2023 at 7:33 AM
Anonymous said...: "I was told to call back on October 5th to check on the status of the service of summons/complaint."

That's all you can do. "Proof of service" is something the defendants provide (the "green card"), not Crystal Mangum.

Did the self-addressed/stamped-envelopes have your address or Crystal Mangum's?; September 26, 2023 at 7:51 AM
kenhyderal said...: Re Dr., Harr's anouncement: Thwart, thwart, thwart. As anyone can see, stymie Crystal at all times is the strategy . No Lawyer, doing what Dr. Harr was doing for another client, would have been subjected to this kind of stalling and if they were a Court Appointed Lawyer representing Crystal, then the excuses to thwart her would have been less trivial but still provide a reason to acomplish what was desired, while providing that Lawyer with a rationale he could utilized to tell Crystal sorry, it failed but pay your bill. It's all demonstrative of how, for Crystal, there is but one desire, by the NC Justice System, run out the clock.; September 26, 2023 at 8:45 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: "...if they were a Court Appointed Lawyer representing Crystal, then the excuses to thwart her would have been less trivial but still provide a reason to acomplish what was desired.."

Those that assert must prove.; September 26, 2023 at 9:16 AM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; September 26, 2023 at 9:51 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ dhall " They have no bread let them eat cake" They have no money let them engage a Lawyer. Dr. Harr is not practicing Law. He charges no one; he represents no one. He helps a friend with her pro-se litigations. It takes courage to hire a Lawyer? Huh? No, dhall,it takes money. The way Dr. Harr helped Crystal is to show you and everyone else she is not guilty of murder. At that point, in a just society, those with the power to correct the injustice should be obliged to act. And, if for personal and political reasons, they wont act the citizenry should be demanding to know why.; September 26, 2023 at 9:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny ...

A lawyer who had service wrong, had it pointed out many times that it was wrong, and refused to fix it, would have had their case dismissed and not been allowed yet another time to fix it.

Stop whining. You clearly are on Harr's side of not really helping Crystal.; September 26, 2023 at 11:33 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: A real lawyer would have told CGM not to file this meaningless lawsuit because:

1) Dr. Aurelius wasn't asked to complete the affirmatives as part of the settlement to drop the Mangum v. Kinsley/DHHS lawsuit.

2) There is no legal basis for a federal court to compel any state official to state anything.

A real lawyer would tell CGM to stop with the ridiculous civil lawsuits and OAH Contested Decision petitions, because they won't help her criminal case.

Organizations like James Coleman's Wrongful Convictions Clinic would have taken on the burden of "locating and interviewing witnesses about facts, gathering documents and records, drafting a range of legal documents and memos, working with experts, and helping to prepare for evidentiary hearings and oral arguments in state and federal courts"

The Wrongful Convictions Clinic studies "the causes of wrongful convictions, including mistaken eyewitness identification, false confessions, faulty forensic evidence, "jailhouse snitches", and race."

They know what they're doing. Sid doesn't.

https://law.duke.edu/wrongfulconvictions/

Wrongful Convictions Clinic
Duke Law School
Box 90360
Durham, North Carolina 27708-0360
Phone: (919) 613-7169

Contact them and let us know their response.; September 26, 2023 at 11:34 AM
dhall said...: "Dr. Harr is not practicing Law. He charges no one; he represents no one"

While Dr. Harr isn't charging anyone, he is practicing law without a license, and by creating and filing all of Crystal Mangum's court documents, he is representing her.

(I'll note your comment directly contradicts your response to Prince Humperdinck when you gave an unequivocal "Yes" to his question about Dr. Harr breaking the law).

And, thanks to Prince Humperdinck, you now have the contact information for the Wrongful Convictions Clinic -- Please use it.

And, (thanks yet again, Prince H) let us know their response -- including how much they're charging for their assistance.; September 26, 2023 at 2:05 PM
kenhyderal said...: dhall said: "(I'll note your comment directly contradicts your response to Prince Humperdinck when you gave an unequivocal "Yes" to his question about Dr. Harr breaking the law)====== Uneqivocal, no. It was a qualified yes. This is an assinine, unconstitutional, proscription that would have a zero chance of a prosecution being successful. According to the ruling they may claim he is in violation, so therefore my answer was yes, but it would be impossible to prove that what he did, in helping Crystal, violated any law and ordering him to stop doing so would be a curtailment of his freedom, to assist a person in their legal right to do pro-se litigation, without paying a Lawyers.; September 27, 2023 at 9:02 AM
dhall said...: To paraphrase Tyrone Rugen, Giving legal advice IS the same as practicing law. See North Carolina General Statute § 84-2.1 - 1, which defines the “practice of law” in part as “assisting by advice, counsel, or otherwise in any legal work; and to advise or give opinion upon the legal rights of any person, firm or corporation”

As far as “impossible to prove”, Dr. Harr has already admitted that he has been assisting Crystal Mangum in her legal work.

Have you contacted the Wrongful Convictions Clinic yet?; September 27, 2023 at 3:41 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said...
A real lawyer would have told CGM not to file this meaningless lawsuit because:

1) Dr. Aurelius wasn't asked to complete the affirmatives as part of the settlement to drop the Mangum v. Kinsley/DHHS lawsuit.

2) There is no legal basis for a federal court to compel any state official to state anything.

A real lawyer would tell CGM to stop with the ridiculous civil lawsuits and OAH Contested Decision petitions, because they won't help her criminal case.

Organizations like James Coleman's Wrongful Convictions Clinic would have taken on the burden of "locating and interviewing witnesses about facts, gathering documents and records, drafting a range of legal documents and memos, working with experts, and helping to prepare for evidentiary hearings and oral arguments in state and federal courts"

The Wrongful Convictions Clinic studies "the causes of wrongful convictions, including mistaken eyewitness identification, false confessions, faulty forensic evidence, "jailhouse snitches", and race."

They know what they're doing. Sid doesn't.

https://law.duke.edu/wrongfulconvictions/

Wrongful Convictions Clinic
Duke Law School
Box 90360
Durham, North Carolina 27708-0360
Phone: (919) 613-7169

Contact them and let us know their response.

September 26, 2023 at 11:34 AM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck.

Almost three years ago I met Duke Law Professor Jamie Lau at a rally outside the Governor's Mansion featuring exoneree Ronnie Love and the NAACP State President T. Anthony Spearman. I handed Attorney Lau the following letter, and, of course, never heard back from him.

Letter given to Law Professor Jamie Lau on November 15, 2020

There is no way Duke University will do anything to help Crystal Mangum. Even the innocence program at NCCU Law School (Crystal graduated from NCCU) has refused to discuss Crystal's case with me.; September 28, 2023 at 4:34 AM
Prince Humperdinck said...: A) Stop using the J4N letterhead! No on is going to take you seriously. I'll bet at least half of the "officers" are no longer working with you, and I'll bet majority of "members" have forgotten they are considered "members" of this organization.

B) Get someone to proofread your letters! This thing is full of crap completely unrelated to Crystal Mangum's conviction. Let a disinterested 3rd party review these, and actually follow their recommendations.

C) Jamie Lau at a rally ≠ Wrongful Convictions Clinic.

You had an opportunity to talk to Ronnie Long and his wife. A smart man would have asked them how they got Jamie Lau and the Wrongful Conviction Clinic involved in his case, and followed any of their recommendations.

You obviously did not. This is why someone ELSE (looking at you, Kenny) needs to take point on these activities. You have no idea what you're doing, and you don't care how bad it makes CGM look when you do it.

All you've done is alienate Crystal Mangum from resources (like her alma mater, NCCU) that could have helped her. Nice work, Sid.; September 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Prince Humperdinck said...
A) Stop using the J4N letterhead! No on is going to take you seriously. I'll bet at least half of the "officers" are no longer working with you, and I'll bet majority of "members" have forgotten they are considered "members" of this organization.

B) Get someone to proofread your letters! This thing is full of crap completely unrelated to Crystal Mangum's conviction. Let a disinterested 3rd party review these, and actually follow their recommendations.

C) Jamie Lau at a rally ≠ Wrongful Convictions Clinic.

You had an opportunity to talk to Ronnie Long and his wife. A smart man would have asked them how they got Jamie Lau and the Wrongful Conviction Clinic involved in his case, and followed any of their recommendations.

You obviously did not. This is why someone ELSE (looking at you, Kenny) needs to take point on these activities. You have no idea what you're doing, and you don't care how bad it makes CGM look when you do it.

All you've done is alienate Crystal Mangum from resources (like her alma mater, NCCU) that could have helped her. Nice work, Sid.

September 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck.

Points (A) and (B) are nonstarters.

Point (C), I did, in fact, introduce and speak with Ronnie Long and his wife, as well as NAACP NC President T. Anthony Spearman at the candle-light event outside the Governor's Mansion. Not only that, but I talked directly with Jamie Lau and gave him a packet with information about Crystal's case to him, including the three-page letter in the link. I don't know what more I could possibly do.

Regarding NCCU Law School's refusal, thus far, to meet with me to discuss Mangum's unjust plight, it is the media which has alienated Ms. Mangum from NCCU and the general public. I am fighting to overcome the pariah-status of Mangum created by the media against her... and it is an uphill battle.

Hope that you now are possessed with proper perspective on the issues.; September 28, 2023 at 8:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid - why do you and Kenny still ignore the service issue? You were told months ago it was an issue and there was an easy fix. The Defendants even did so, yet you continued to ignore the issue, and now you are whining that it's a problem.

This is 100% on you. If you really wanted to help Crystal instead of keep her captive, you'd have fixed it long ago.; September 28, 2023 at 8:47 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ The Price and dhall: The Prince and dhall said: "Giving legal advice IS the same as practicing law. See North Carolina General Statute § 84-2.1 - 1, which defines the “practice of law” in part as “assisting by advice, counsel, or otherwise in any legal work; and to advise or give opinion upon the legal rights of any person, firm or corporation”........ In my mind there is a distinct difference between giving legal advice and assisting someone in a pro-se litigation. I think you would be hard pressed to prove Dr. Harr was actually givine legal advice, other than simply helping Crystal trying to prove her innocent. If I told a friend, " in my opinion you should sue would I then be technically guilty of practicing law"? Crystal has the right to launch a pro-se litigation from prison; not opinion but fact.; September 28, 2023 at 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...: In Sid's letter to Professor Lau, he states "Crystal seeks neither legal representation nor legal advice. She does not ask for advocacy in support of her innocence." That being said, what was there for Professor Lau, Duke University, or the Wrongful Convictions Clinic to discuss with or do for Sid - a non-party and non-attorney - with regards to Mangum's case?

It would appear to me all Sid was seeking was Professor Lau's endorsement of his alternative reality theories, silly lolsuits and unauthorized practice of law. No attorney is going to do that.

If Sid wants help, he needs to ask for it, then be willing to step aside when it is offered. But if all he really wants is for an attorney to endorse (w/o independent investigation and research) his ridiculous claims, support his unlawful practice of law and tell everyone what a fantastic job he doing . . . to quote Tyrone Rugen:

"I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard.

[pause]

How marvelous."

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 28, 2023 at 2:27 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sid’s admitted to giving legal advice. That’s all the proof needed.

Crystal does have the right to “ launch a pro-se litigation from prison”. Sid launching her pro se litigation for her is “assisting by advice, counsel, or otherwise in any legal work” is unauthorized practice of law.

You keep ignoring the “or otherwise in any legal work”.

If you wrote and filed your friend legal documents for him, you’d be guilty of practicing law. That’s what Sid has been doing.; September 28, 2023 at 3:11 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Your nonstarters are precisely why someone else should be doing this. Hell, CGM with a paper bag and crayon could do better, provided she doesn’t use anything you wrote as a reference.

So you talked to Ronnie Long et Al…Did you ask how the Wrongful Convictions Clinic got involved with his case? What was the response.

What did you ask Jamie Lau?; September 28, 2023 at 3:19 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Prince Humperdinck said...
Your nonstarters are precisely why someone else should be doing this. Hell, CGM with a paper bag and crayon could do better, provided she doesn’t use anything you wrote as a reference.

So you talked to Ronnie Long et Al…Did you ask how the Wrongful Convictions Clinic got involved with his case? What was the response.

What did you ask Jamie Lau?

September 28, 2023 at 3:19 PM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck.

Let me fill you in. I reached out to the NC Innocence Inquiry Commission under two different executive directors seeking help with Crystal's case, and was immediately turned down. As recently as September 13, 2023, I briefly spoke with Christine Mumma, the executive director of the NC Center on Actual Innocence (of whom I have great admiration) and told her about Dr. Wecht's reports and sworn affidavit, to which she replied to the effect that her organizations already were working on thousands of cases which had a chance of success. And on September 28, 2023, the Dean of the NCCU School of Law - former NC Supreme Court Justice Patricia Timmons-Goodson formally refused to meet with me to discuss Crystal Mangum's case because "I do not see a role for the law school to perform at this time"... this despite the fact the school has its own innocence project and Crystal Mangum is a graduate of NCCU and was enrolled in the NCCU graduate program at the time of her lengthy 2010 arrest in the so-called arson case.

With the above under consideration, how could you possibly expect the Duke University innocence program to seriously consider representing Crystal Mangum in a case, which if successful, would transfer responsibility from her to Duke University Hospital's medical staff? Instead, what I hoped Jamie Lau would consider was to take the online Requests for Admission/Affirmation, or to encourage the NC Chief Medical Examiner's Office to produce a report and/or respond to the Requests.

To expect Duke University School of Law to take impartial administrative actions to help Ms. Mangum receive justice at the detriment to its hospital, is far beyond the realm of reality.

Consider yourself elucidated.; September 29, 2023 at 6:04 AM
kenhyderal said...: The Prince said: "You keep ignoring the “or otherwise in any legal work”.... Assisting a prisoner in a pro-se litigation is an abssolute necessity because they have not access to a computer, to e-mail, to courier service, to expedited postal service, to funds for fillng, to methods of tele-communication, for ways to photo-copy, for ways to print documents, all of which put a pro-se, incarcerated, individual at a distinct disadvantage. Where would an indigent Crystal have gotten with hand-written appeals using a lay person's language. (D.O.A.) The use of subjective catch-all terms like "otherwise" are legal subterfuges that allow Lawyers to discourage pro-se litigation.; September 29, 2023 at 10:06 AM
Cousin Kenny Supporter said...: Right on Cousin Kenny.; September 29, 2023 at 12:18 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: "Assisting a prisoner in a pro-se litigation is an abssolute necessity because they have not access to a computer, to e-mail, to courier service, to expedited postal service, to funds for fillng, to methods of tele-communication, for ways to photo-copy, for ways to print documents, all of which put a pro-se, incarcerated, individual at a distinct disadvantage."

A) Sid isn't "assisting", he's doing the work for her. All she's doing is signing the documents he creates.

B) "The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees state inmates the right to 'adequate, effective, and meaningful' access to the courts." Petrick v. Maynard, 11 F.3d 991, 994 (10th Cir.1993) (quoting Bounds v. Smith, 430 U.S. 817, 822 (1977)). The guarantee of court access is satisfied "by providing prisoners with adequate law libraries or adequate assistance from persons trained in the law." Bounds, 430 U.S. at 828.

If the North Carolina Correctional Institution for Women doesn't provide reasonable access to "adequate law libraries or adequate assistance from persons trained in the law.", then the prison is violating the law, and CGM (NOT Sid -- he's not an inmate) should immediately bring this to the attention of the appropriate resources.

If Crystal Mangum doesn't use the "adequate law libraries or adequate assistance from persons trained in the law.", then, well, that's her fault.; September 29, 2023 at 12:45 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sid @ September 29, 2023 at 6:04 AM:

What do all of these incidents have in common? You.

Here's some elucidation for ya:

NCCU Law school partners with the NC Center on Actual Innocence. Their "innocence Project" is a student organization.

Nothing "would transfer responsibility from her to Duke University Hospital's medical staff". Why? The only thing DUMC would be responsible for is malpractice. Guess what? North Carolina’s statute of limitations for medical malpractice claims is three years from the date of the alleged malpractice. You WERE a doctor -- you should know this.

Jamie Lau can't do anything with your requests for affirmation -- He doesn't represent the court, and he doesn't represent Crystal Mangum. Aside from that, Dr. Aurelius provided her report as part of the agreement for dropping the case - and responding to those affirmatives were NOT part of the agreement.

Now, based on your responses, you haven't done ANYTHING to properly engage the Wrongful Convictions Clinic (or the NC Innocence Inquiry Commission based on what you stated). It's time for you to step aside, shut your mouth and let someone else do it. it could be Kenny, it could be...I don't know, Vincent Clark? Hell, ask Cy Gurney.

Anyone but you.

Consider yourself elucidated.; September 29, 2023 at 1:24 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ The Prince: "Assisting" while "doing the "things she can't do because of the factors I outlined. In the American Justice System it's all about weasel words, semantic escape clauses designed to thwart. What does "persons trained in the law" actually mean; licensed Lawyers? If a prisoner insists they are innocent and believes it can be proven, is the prison obliged to pay for a "Lawyer or person trained in the law" (??), to review their pro-se suit? Re: the libraries; are the law books, contained there, comprehensible and instructive to a lay person? Can the prisoner pro-se sue N.C.C.I.W. and get assistance from them, the putative defendant, for violating the law? There seem to be insurmountable obstacles put in the way of the wrongly incarcerated.; September 29, 2023 at 8:27 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Ask NCCIW.

Let us know their response.; September 30, 2023 at 5:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Neither Sid nor Kenny will address the failure of service issue, and their repeated failure to correct it.

Makes it clear that's intentional - they don't want to actually help Crystal, they want her to think they are helping her. Sid knows she won't have anything to do with him when she gets out - so he wants to keep her locked up as long as possible.; September 30, 2023 at 8:23 AM
Bremerton Born and Raised said...: I am not surprised to see that kenhyderal is fighting for justice with his posts on this blog. I hope that he will continue to fight against the powers that be.; September 30, 2023 at 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Kenny-

Ask Shan Carter who does all his legal work.; September 30, 2023 at 4:35 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT FOLLOW-UP!

Regarding the service of the Summons and Complaint on the NC Chief Medical Examiner and her Office:

Friday, September 22nd - afternoon, after taking the bus to Durham and stopping at the Durham County Courthouse to check on the April 23, 2023 MAR, and going to the NC Central Law School in a futile attempt to get an appointment to speak with Dean Patricia Timmons-Goodson and/or Associate Dean Malik Edwards, I returned home to Raleigh in mid-afternoon, and went to my post office box and found a letter from Crystal Mangum containing the originals of the Summons, signed and stamped. I frantically took them to the Wake County Sheriff's Office, along with two complete sets of briefs and exhibits (already filed as document #1). Was told I needed a self-addressed/stamped envelope (so a completed summons could be mailed to me), and told I needed to pay $30.00 for service of each summons, even though delivered to the same address... one for the chief medical examiner and one for the office. When I asked when delivery could be expected, I was told within sixty days, to which I replied proof of service was required by October 6th. To prove it, I offered to bring by a copy of the order... and was advised to bring two copies of the order. So, I hurried home, got an envelope stamped and addressed, two copies of the four-page order, and enough money to pay for service of both summons and complaints. When I got to the Sheriff's Office I was told that I needed a second self-addressed/stamped envelope for return of the second completed summons. I was told they could file everything and keep it on hold, but would not be able to serve anything until they had the second self-addressed/stamped envelope. The office closed before I could get a second envelope.

Monday, September 25th - mid-morning, I dropped off the second self-addressed/stamped envelope. Everything was set to enable the summons and complaint to be served.

Friday, September 29th, I called the Sheriff's Office to check on the status of the service and was told that both summons and complaints were delivered on Wednesday, September 27th.

Saturday, September 30th, I checked my post office box and found no self-addressed/stamped envelope sent from the Sheriff's Office.

And to answer a prior question, the self-address used was my post office because there is absolutely no accounting of mail that passes through the prison mailing system.

Hopefully, the self-addressed/stamped envelopes will be in my post office box on Monday, October 2nd. Will keep you posted... pun intended.

As you were.; September 30, 2023 at 8:08 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Bremerton Born and Raised:

I know that kenhyderal appreciates your support.; October 1, 2023 at 6:26 AM

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NC Office of Administrative Hearings: Ex Mero Motu Order for Supplemental Briefs

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