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Harr v. Freeman: Informal Brief on Appeal

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Anonymous said...: Kenhuderal:

"However the mattress was found, Crystal saying it came off when he dragged her off the bed by her ankles and at one point she used it as a shield"

This was from your comment of October 31, 2016 at 3:02 PM

From your comment of October 31, 2016 at 9:05 AM

"What Crystal did was raise a corner of the mattress to shield herself against incoming knives. Gravity returned the mattress to it's original position."

You can't even lie effectively.

Again I remind you, the pictures taken of Reginald Daye's apartment clearly showed the mattress had not been taken off the bed.; November 1, 2016 at 3:53 AM
JSwift said...: Kenny,

I have asked you previously not to rely on intellectually dishonest arguments in your replies to me. I do not find most intellectually dishonest arguments to be effective.

You are once again relying on Argument by Assertion. You assert something to be true and challenge others to disprove it. After you have asserted it several times, you act as though it is established fact. In this case, you explicitly claimed your assertions to be established facts.

The fact that knives were scattered around the apartment is not proof that Daye's threw them that night (he or someone else could have thrown them earlier and didn't clean them up) or that he threw them at Crystal or anyone else (they could have been thrown as target practice). Although your theory is plausible (unlike your preposterous mystery rapist theory), there are other plausible explanations as well.

I remind you that the burden of proof is on you. Crystal has been convicted of murder. She is in prison and scheduled to be released on February 27, 2026. You and Sidney regard her conviction as an egregious miscarriage of justice. Other readers have concluded that the conviction is fair.

You and Sidney rely almost exclusively on intellectually dishonest arguments that others find ineffective and then whine when those ineffective arguments are unsuccessful. You don't refine your arguments in response to specific criticism, you simply repeat them. Argument by assertion. Willful ignorance. Galileo gambit. Ad hominem attacks. Double standards.

Unless you and Sidney learn from your mistakes and learn to make more effective arguments supported by real evidence, Crystal will not receive a new trial. She will not be exonerated. She will be released in 3,405 days. Start the count down. It will be a more productive use of your time.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 1, 2016 at 4:10 AM
kenhyderal said...: JSWIFT SAID: "The fact that knives were scattered around the apartment is not proof that Daye's threw them that night (he or someone else could have thrown them earlier and didn't clean them up) or that he threw them at Crystal or anyone else (they could have been thrown as target practice Although your theory is plausible (unlike your preposterous mystery rapist theory), there are other plausible explanations as well".............Only the other possibilities you offer are implausible" You assume Crystal was lying when she testified that Daye threw them at her. Remember that Daye was a knife thrower. In Crystal's new trial other witnesses to this fact will testify. Leaving knives scattered around the apartment some of them broken from some previous occurrence is also an implausible suggestion. Any reasonable person will concede that Daye threw the knives.; November 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
I already explained why it is reasonable to assume Crystal threw the knives. Don't give us this "any reasonable person ...." stuff.; November 1, 2016 at 11:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhtderal:

"Only the other possibilities you offer are implausible" You assume Crystal was lying when she testified that Daye threw them at her."

You assume Crystal tells the truth. It has been documented she does not, e.g. her description of what happened when she stole the cab, went on a drunken joy ride and then tried to run down a police officer.

"Remember that Daye was a knife thrower."

That was Crystal's allegation. You know, Crystl the non credile witess who falsely accused three innocent men of raping her.

"In Crystal's new trial other witnesses to this fact will testify."

You again presume a fact not in evidence, that Crystal ill get a new trial. So far you and Sidney Harr have not established grounds for a new trial. And who, specifically might those witnesses be? You? You have no first hand knowledge of what happened. Neither does Sidney Harr.

"Leaving knives scattered around the apartment some of them broken from some previous occurrence is also an implausible suggestion. Any reasonable person will concede that Daye threw the knives."

So far as that is concerned, you are the only individual, other than Crystal the non truthful witness, who believes that, and you are no reasonable person.; November 1, 2016 at 11:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Again,

Even if Daye is the one who threw them, it doesn't change the analysis previously provided to you (which you ignore) - no matter what happened before she locked herself in the bathroom, that essentially resets it. The knives are a red herring, and the lack of fingerprints just means those kinds of knives aren't good for it - hers were not on them either, and even if they were, it was their house, their fingerprints wouldn't be a surprising find on utensils in their house.; November 1, 2016 at 11:30 AM
JSwift said...: Kenny stated: Only the other possibilities you offer are implausible

Argument by assertion. I am not inclined to accept the opinion as to what is "plausible"and "implausible" from someone who professes to believe that Crystal was violently gang raped by mystery rapists at the lacrosse party.

You assume Crystal was lying when she testified that Daye threw them at her.

Straw man argument. We are trying to determine whether Crystal's statement is accurate. I note only that the fact that her allegation that Daye threw knives at her is not necessarily accurate if it can not be disproven with certainty. Given the inaccuracies in other parts of her testimony and in her rape allegation, I am not inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Remember that Daye was a knife thrower.

Argument by assertion. I have seen no evidence to support this claim.

In Crystal's new trial

Willful ignorance. There will be no trial unless you or Sidney stop relying on ineffective intellectually dishonest arguments, learn from you mistakes and develop more effective arguments supported by real evidence.

other witnesses to this fact will testify.

Argumentum ex culo. Your reliance on unknown witnesses, who may be real or entirely fictional, is not effective.

Willful ignorance. This argument also ignores the law as it relates to self-defense. The critical question is whether Daye broke off the attack. You ignore that requirement.

Leaving knives scattered around the apartment some of them broken from some previous occurrence is also an implausible suggestion.

Argument by assertion. I have seen no evidence to support the claim that Crystal and Daye kept an immaculate house. As I recall from the arson trial, the apartment Crystal shared with Walker was poorly cleaned.

Any reasonable person will concede that Daye threw the knives.

Ad hominem attack. The implication is that anyone who disagrees with you is "unreasonable."

In addition, this is a straw man argument. We were not discussing whether Daye threw the knives; we were discussing whether Daye threw the knives (a) at Crystal (b) that night (c) with murderous intent.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 1, 2016 at 2:57 PM
kenhyderal said...: JSwift: Here's an ad hominem attack. Your attempt at erudition is making you look pedantic. There is no Jury, given the information I have proffered, that would conclude anybody other then Daye threw the knives at Crystal. All your analysis concerning the logic of the arguments concerning this question, as scholarly as it may be, would fall on deaf ears and rightly so. They would rely on common sense, common experience and native intuition to come to the most plausible explanation.; November 1, 2016 at 4:01 PM
JSwift said...: Kenny,

I agree. The jury did "rely on common sense, common experience and native intuition to come to the most plausible explanation."

They concluded that the physical evidence generally fit Daye's statement and it contradicted Crystal's testimony in too many places. As a result, they concluded, notwithstanding Daye's initiation of the physical attack and the fact that knives were strewn about the apartment, that Daye broke off his attack and began to walk away before Crystal got a knife and stabbed him. Under the law, they concluded that Crystal did not act in self-defense.

That verdict is a fact. Your opinion that there are other plausible explanations is at this point moot. Unless you or Sidney provide substantive arguments, supported by real evidence, there will be no new trial. Your endless repetition of the same ineffective arguments will accomplish nothing--except perhaps to make you feel good about yourself.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 1, 2016 at 4:11 PM
kenhyderal said...: JSwift said: "I agree. The jury did "rely on common sense, common experience and native intuition to come to the most plausible explanation.".....................Based on the incomplete information they received and based on Coggins Franks badgering and confusing Crystal, then labeling her a liar without objection or effective rebuttal by Meier. This wont happen at her new trial.; November 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"There is no Jury, given the information I have proffered, that would conclude anybody other then Daye threw the knives at Crystal."

Another presumprion of a fact not in evidence, that a Jury would find you credible.; November 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"JSwift said: "I agree. The jury did "rely on common sense, common experience and native intuition to come to the most plausible explanation.".....................Based on the incomplete information they received and based on Coggins Franks badgering and confusing Crystal, then labeling her a liar without objection or effective rebuttal by Meier. This wont happen at her new trial."

More presumption of facts not in evidence, that the information the jury received was incomplete, that Crystal Mangum was not a liar, that Daniel Meier was an ineffective counsel, that there are grounds for a new trial.; November 1, 2016 at 4:47 PM
JSwift said...: Kenny states: This won't happen at her new trial.

Neither you nor Sidney has made an effective argument as to why Crystal is entitled to a new trial. Unless you do so, there will be no new trial.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 1, 2016 at 4:57 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
I've already given you my explanation. Can you explain why you do not find it credible?; November 1, 2016 at 5:02 PM
The Great Kilgo said...: Kenhyderal,
Good luck! I've managed to escape that Shooto guy! I've got that information you needed. Now you can pro ve Meier's guilt! I'm so happy for you and Crystal!; November 1, 2016 at 6:36 PM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said: I've already given you my explanation. Can you explain why you do not find it credible?".....................................Crystal stabbed, drunken enraged Daye, while he was on top of her, with one of the many knives he had thrown at her and that was lying within reach of her while he was on top of her, throttling her with his hands around her throat. She then grabbed her purse and fled leaving HIM behind.; November 1, 2016 at 8:52 PM
guiowen said...: So why isn't my explanation better than yours?; November 1, 2016 at 9:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhuderal again indulges in presuming facys not in evidence.; November 2, 2016 at 3:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 59 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 125 days since the end of June, 193 days since April 23rd, 232 days since the Ides of March, 1,076 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,427 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 2, 2016 at 5:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

No one is saying your version (which is also what Crystal testified to) isn't plausible. Daye's version was also plausible - and the Jury was allowed to decide which one they believed. They chose Daye's because his version of events (even those where he admitted attacking her) fit the physical evidence more than hers, and she had a history of running into the other room and grabbing a weapon to continue a fight.

No one is saying Crystal's version wasn't plausible, but Daye's was also plausible, and the Jury, as is their function, determined that Daye's version was the one they believed.

The fact you disagree with their decision isn't grounds for a new trial - people disagree with jury verdicts all the time, but unless their determination is so clearly erroneous that it could not possibly be right - it will not be disturbed.

Even you have to admit that Daye's version is possible, even if you think it is a self-serving lie on his part. Since it is possible, the Jury Verdict stands on that issue.; November 2, 2016 at 5:28 AM
A Lawyer said...: Neither you nor Sidney has made an effective argument as to why Crystal is entitled to a new trial. Unless you do so, there will be no new trial.

It would also help if Crystal filed in the right courthouse...; November 2, 2016 at 7:29 AM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said : "I already told you, it was Crystal herself who threw all those knives around, hoping to blame Reggie. If he had thrown them, his fingerprints would be all over. Crystal, on the other hand, had plenty of time to wipe her prints off" And also said: I've told you before: Crystal threw them around the apartment AFTER Reggie left. That's why Reggie's prints were not on them. That's also why Reggie did not know about them" and now said: "I've already given you my explanation. Can you explain why you do not find it credible?"....................My response was "Crystal stabbed, drunken enraged Daye, while he was on top of her, with one of the many knives he had thrown at her and that was lying within reach of her while he was on top of her, throttling her with his hands around her throat. She then grabbed her purse and fled leaving HIM behind" .........................................It was Crystal who fled. Daye remained. Guiowen wont listen to me but perhaps JSWift, Abe or a Lawyer can persuade him that his explanation does not fit with the facts.; November 2, 2016 at 8:23 AM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
I've asked you to explain why your story is better than mine. All you do is repeat your story. I realize you think that repeating it often enough will make the rest of us believe it, but that's not the way things work. Endless repetition does not make a story true.; November 2, 2016 at 9:05 AM
kenhyderal said...: Concerning the knives my explanation fits with the facts yours does not; November 2, 2016 at 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyeral:

"Concerning the knives my explanation fits with the facts yours does not".

How can Kenhyderal's explanation fit with the facts when, it is obvious, that he does not know the facts. His fantasies are not facts.; November 2, 2016 at 9:44 AM
Anonymous said...: Notice Kenny refuses to argue with anyone who actually provides an explanation. This is why you lose Kenny, you ignore the truth, and facts, and let yourself get baited by trolls.; November 2, 2016 at 9:58 AM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
Why does my explanation not fit with the facts? Which facts?; November 2, 2016 at 9:59 AM
kenhyderal said...: Daye remained Crystal left; November 2, 2016 at 10:19 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Notice Kenny refuses to argue with anyone who actually provides an explanation. This is why you lose Kenny, you ignore the truth, and facts, and let yourself get baited by trolls"..................................Refuses to argue. Moi? I do agree though that in this case Guiowen is trolling me; November 2, 2016 at 10:22 AM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
So, what you're claiming is that, after stabbing Daye, Crystal left? She didn't even have the decency to stay and see the consequences of what she'd done? That's really a tall story.
Actually, Reggie went to his nephew's apartment.
After Reggie left, Crystal scattered broken knives all over the place. That gave her a good cover story, and made the self-defense plea more plausible.

Buy the way, it's not that you re4fuse to argue. It's that your method of argumentation is not honest:
1. You make up a story.
2. You repeat this story 132 times. You then claim that, because we've already heard this story 132 times, it must be true.
3. If anyone contradicts your story, you then claim that this other person's story "doesn't fit with the facts."; November 2, 2016 at 11:10 AM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said: "So, what you're claiming is that, after stabbing Daye, Crystal left"....................................She fled for her life.; November 2, 2016 at 2:29 PM
guiowen said...: Nice story. I'm sure Crystal told you so.; November 2, 2016 at 3:24 PM
Anonymous said...: What, if anything, did Kia Haynes say about the timing of the departures?; November 2, 2016 at 3:57 PM
guiowen said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM
guiowen said...: Now, I'm willing to accept Kia's word on this. She seems a sane woman, and has no skin in the game.; November 2, 2016 at 6:10 PM
Inconnu said...: Kenhyderal,
Il parait que le Gros Kilgo est reussi a s'echapper de cet horrible Sconnosciuto.
Est-ce qu'il t'a donne' l'information dont tu avais besoin?; November 2, 2016 at 7:51 PM
A Lawyer said...: Ken,
Your theory is plausible. Crystal can argue it at her new trial, IF she gets one. The jury may believe it --or not; that's their decision.

BUT you are missing a key step: HOW is Crustal going to get a new trial? She's been tried, sentenced and exhausted her appeals. You need to explain who is going to order a new trial, and why.; November 2, 2016 at 8:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 58 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 126 days since the end of June, 194 days since April 23rd, 233 days since the Ides of March, 1,077 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,428 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 3, 2016 at 2:37 AM
JSwift said...: A Lawyer asks: HOW is Crystal going to get a new trial?

Keep in mind that your advice has made Kenny's task even more difficult.

Although Kenny claims to have secret evidence that would prove that Crystal is innocent (e.g, medical experts would would testify that the intubation was an intervening cause, the doctors who treated Daye would testify to the same, people who would testify to Daye being a violent alcoholic who frequently physically abused women and threw knives at people in murderous rages, people who would testify that Crystal left before Daye, experts who would testify that the blood spatter found in the hallway was consistent with Daye being stabbed in the bedroom, etc.)

Kenny believes that you advised that he cannot release any of this compelling evidence today because it would give the prosecution in the new trial too much information as to the defense for that new trial.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 3, 2016 at 4:53 AM
Walt said...: JSwift wrote: "Kenny believes that you advised that he cannot release any of this compelling evidence today because it would give the prosecution in the new trial too much information as to the defense for that new trial."

Kenny's belief is unfounded. N.C.G.S. 15A-905(c)(2) gives the State the right to notice of expert witnesses that the defendant reasonably expects to call at trial. N.C.G.S. 15A-905(c)(2) also provides that within a reasonable time before trial, each expert witness that the defendant reasonably expects to call at trial must prepare a report of the results of any tests or examinations conducted by the expert, and those reports must be made available to the state.

Further, if the defense, as it has already done, asks for open file discovery pursuant to N.C.G.S. 15A-903, or the state voluntarily provides discovery, as it has already done, then the defense is under a compulsion to provide the state with reciprocal discovery, except the defendant's own statements. [Protected by the N.C. Constitution and U.S. Constitution's right to be free from self-incrimination.] Of course, the state is entitled to use Crystal's previous sworn testimony from the first trial against her.

Of course, all this is predicated on there being a new trial. So far, Crystal has not filed a Motion for Appropriate Relief in a court of competent jurisdiction which could grant such relief. Question to Kenny, when and where has Crystal filed a MAR?

Question to Kenny, on what grounds should a court of competent jurisdiction grant a MAR?

A Habeas petition in federal court won't work as the only relief she can obtain there is a relief from prison early. That would be granted only if she can prove she is being held in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Question to Kenny, how is Crystal being held in violation of the U.S. Constitution?

Walt-in-Durham; November 3, 2016 at 6:53 AM
JSwift said...: Walt asks: Question to Kenny, on what grounds should a court of competent jurisdiction grant a MAR?

Kenny has been consistent in his answer. A court of competent jurisdiction should grant an MAR based upon his theories, his opinions that the jury accepted an implausible scenario and that Meier did not provide a competent defense, and, most importantly, the secret evidence he is not yet at liberty to disclose.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 3, 2016 at 7:26 AM
JSwift said...: Walt asks: Question to Kenny, when and where has Crystal filed a MAR?

Kenny has been consistent in his answer. Because the rules in the US justice system are so esoteric, Crystal should not be required to file an MAR in a court of competent jurisdiction and use the proper forms to do so. Sidney has made filings in numerous courts, any of which in Kenny's opinion was sufficient to require a new trial. Moreover, because he believes this miscarriage of justice has been so egregious, no filing should be required in any court. The judges, prosecutors and politicians, who, like Meier, lurk here, should be convinced by his theories, opinions and secret evidence that they should release and exonerate Crystal without a filing.

That explains his failure to take any action other than posting on this blog.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 3, 2016 at 7:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 57 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 127 days since the end of June, 195 days since April 23rd, 234 days since the Ides of March, 1,078 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,429 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 4, 2016 at 5:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 56 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 128 days since the end of June, 196 days since April 23rd, 235 days since the Ides of March, 1,079 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,430 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 5, 2016 at 4:06 AM
JSwift said...: Abe,

I want to thank you for your countdown comments. They certainly are useful in keeping Sidney on his toes. I wanted to suggest including more information. My suggestion follows with suggested enhancements in italics.

You have 56 days to exonerate and free Magnum in 2016.

It has been 128 days since the end of June, 196 days since April 23rd, 235 days since the Ides of March, 1,079 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye, 2,043 days since Magnum was arrested for stabbing Reginald Daye and 3,430 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,401 days.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 5, 2016 at 11:57 AM
kenhyderal said...: Vicious and heartless gloating. When her vindication comes live with your shame.; November 5, 2016 at 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Vicious and heartless gloating. When her vindication comes live with your shame."

"her vindication" will come on Navember 31, 2016.; November 5, 2016 at 5:36 PM
JSwift said...: Kenny stated: Vicious and heartless gloating. When her vindication comes live with your shame.

Kenny,

Is Nifong going to be vindicated as well, or just Mangum? I can't tell because no one is doing anything with any chance of success to advance either cause.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 5, 2016 at 5:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Mr. Smith:

Thank you for your comment. In reply to your suggestions:

My countdown started when Sid brashly stated that Mangum would definitely be released in 2016. That is why I started the countdown and it is what I was counting down. I really didn't think it necessary at the time to further clarify the countdown by adding "in 2016" because Sid was clear that there would be nothing left to be done with respect to Mangum's conviction and incarceration in 2017 or beyond. Although Sid has made several predictions since then (which I have noted and counted down), he has not made a prediction or set a deadline beyond 2016. Therefore, I haven't seen the need to add "in 2016" to the countdown. However, if you think it will lend clarity to, or otherwise improve, the countdown, I will do so.

I have thought about marking and counting the days since Mr. Daye's stabbing and Mangum arrest, but I didn't go there for two reasons:

First, the purpose of the countdown is to point out Sid's many (and continuing) failures. It is my light hearted way of poking fun at Sid and holding him accountable for his ridiculous claims and assertions. Whatever else can be said about Sid, he isn't responsible for Mangum's poor decisions and the bad acts that led to Mr. Daye's stabbing and resulted in her arrest. Thus I don't see keeping track of that date as being relevant to the purpose and spirit of the countdown. I distinguish this from my decision to keep track of the days since Mangum was convicted, because Sid was heavily involved in Mangum's legal decisions prior to her conviction and frequently predicted that the case against her would never go to trial, much less result in a conviction.

Secondly, I don't want to do anything that might be seen as commemorating the stabbing and killing of a human being. As stated above, my countdown posts are aimed at Sid's actions and failures. Marking the days since Mr. Daye's stabbing at Mangum's hand isn't appealing to me or something I particularly want to do (although it wouldn't offend or upset me if someone else did).

On your recommendation I will start counting down the days to Mangum's release. However, I cannot guarantee that I will continue the countdown to its conclusion. To be honest, at present I do not intend on continuing the countdown after January 1, 2017.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 5, 2016 at 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 55 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 129 days since the end of June, 197 days since April 23rd, 236 days since the Ides of March, 1,080 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,431 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,400 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 6, 2016 at 3:32 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

I apologize for my excessively lengthy absence from the comment section of this blog site... however, I have been feverishly working to try and get Crystal freed by Christmas, if not by the end of the year.

The good news is that I believe that I have made significant progress towards that goal. The downside for you is that you are unable to appreciate the strides until justice bursts on the scene. But I do believe that soon you will be able to notice chinks in the armor of the Mangum detractors' case.

To date I have not received any response from the NC Attorney General's Office regarding the Informal Brief on Appeal that I filed. Does anyone know its status? I have not recently reviewed the comments, so maybe there is an indication in there somewhere as to what's going on with my appeal.

Still busy sending out letters and working on a new sharlog... and other clandestine, but legal, activities on behalf of justice for Mangum.

As you were.; November 7, 2016 at 3:07 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: JSwift said...
Kenny stated: Vicious and heartless gloating. When her vindication comes live with your shame.

Kenny,

Is Nifong going to be vindicated as well, or just Mangum? I can't tell because no one is doing anything with any chance of success to advance either cause.

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Hey, John D. Smith.

When Mangum is vindicated (by her release and exoneration), Mike Nifong will enjoy a significant degree of vindication (probably not to the extent of unconditional and unilateral reinstatement to practice law in North Carolina). But I do believe with revelations about the injustices to Mangum will be cause for reasonable people to re-think their attitudes towards Mr. Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse case.; November 7, 2016 at 3:13 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: JSwift said...
Walt asks: Question to Kenny, when and where has Crystal filed a MAR?

Kenny has been consistent in his answer. Because the rules in the US justice system are so esoteric, Crystal should not be required to file an MAR in a court of competent jurisdiction and use the proper forms to do so. Sidney has made filings in numerous courts, any of which in Kenny's opinion was sufficient to require a new trial. Moreover, because he believes this miscarriage of justice has been so egregious, no filing should be required in any court. The judges, prosecutors and politicians, who, like Meier, lurk here, should be convinced by his theories, opinions and secret evidence that they should release and exonerate Crystal without a filing.

That explains his failure to take any action other than posting on this blog.

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Believe me, Mr. Smith, that there are actions being taken on Mangum's behalf by me that are totally unknown to you at the present time. You will understand when Mangum's exoneration is imminent.; November 7, 2016 at 3:16 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
JSwift wrote: "Kenny believes that you advised that he cannot release any of this compelling evidence today because it would give the prosecution in the new trial too much information as to the defense for that new trial."

Kenny's belief is unfounded. N.C.G.S. 15A-905(c)(2) gives the State the right to notice of expert witnesses that the defendant reasonably expects to call at trial. N.C.G.S. 15A-905(c)(2) also provides that within a reasonable time before trial, each expert witness that the defendant reasonably expects to call at trial must prepare a report of the results of any tests or examinations conducted by the expert, and those reports must be made available to the state.

Further, if the defense, as it has already done, asks for open file discovery pursuant to N.C.G.S. 15A-903, or the state voluntarily provides discovery, as it has already done, then the defense is under a compulsion to provide the state with reciprocal discovery, except the defendant's own statements. [Protected by the N.C. Constitution and U.S. Constitution's right to be free from self-incrimination.] Of course, the state is entitled to use Crystal's previous sworn testimony from the first trial against her.

Of course, all this is predicated on there being a new trial. So far, Crystal has not filed a Motion for Appropriate Relief in a court of competent jurisdiction which could grant such relief. Question to Kenny, when and where has Crystal filed a MAR?

Question to Kenny, on what grounds should a court of competent jurisdiction grant a MAR?

A Habeas petition in federal court won't work as the only relief she can obtain there is a relief from prison early. That would be granted only if she can prove she is being held in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Question to Kenny, how is Crystal being held in violation of the U.S. Constitution?

Walt-in-Durham

Hey, Walt.

For your edification, on March 5, 2015, Durham Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson filed an Order of Summary Dismissal on Motion for Appropriate Relief.

Consider yourself edificatified.; November 7, 2016 at 3:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Ken,
Your theory is plausible. Crystal can argue it at her new trial, IF she gets one. The jury may believe it --or not; that's their decision.

BUT you are missing a key step: HOW is Crustal going to get a new trial? She's been tried, sentenced and exhausted her appeals. You need to explain who is going to order a new trial, and why.

Hey, A Lawyer.

First of all, Crystal is not going to get a new trial... she is going to be exonerated without having to go through a new trial.

Second of all, the last thing that the State would want to do is re-try Mangum on its flawed, flimsy, and fraudulent evidence that has more holes in it than a colander.

Third of all, as Frederick Douglass said, "Power concedes nothing without a demand." When I filed my lawsuit against Wake D.A. Lorrin Freeman, I made a demand for justice for Crystal Mangum.; November 7, 2016 at 3:29 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Kenhyderal,
So, what you're claiming is that, after stabbing Daye, Crystal left? She didn't even have the decency to stay and see the consequences of what she'd done? That's really a tall story.
Actually, Reggie went to his nephew's apartment.
After Reggie left, Crystal scattered broken knives all over the place. That gave her a good cover story, and made the self-defense plea more plausible.

Buy the way, it's not that you re4fuse to argue. It's that your method of argumentation is not honest:
1. You make up a story.
2. You repeat this story 132 times. You then claim that, because we've already heard this story 132 times, it must be true.
3. If anyone contradicts your story, you then claim that this other person's story "doesn't fit with the facts."

Hey, gui, mon ami.

The differing scenarios given by the prosecution do not make any sense.

On the other hand, Crystal's scenario makes perfect sense. She stabbed Daye once while he was choking her, and after he got from atop her cursing, she grabbed her purse on the way out and fled... fearing that he was in pursuit.

The knives were scattered about because Daye used Mangum for target practice prior to dragging her by her hair out of the bathroom that he busted into by knocking the locked door off its frame.

The state's story that Daye left the premises first and that Mangum came to the door and told Aykia's boyfriend "Everything's okay," before slamming the door shut, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If this is the case, why was Aykia's boyfriend not called to testify. The fact is, that Aykia's boyfriend, who the state alleges is the only person to directly see and/or speak to Mangum after the stabbing, was never even interviewed by the prosecution. Does that make any kind of sense.... Really?

Truth of the matter is that all three of the State's major material trial witnesses to the incident that night (Dr. Nichols, Aykia Hanes, Officer Curtis Knight) all committed perjury.; November 7, 2016 at 3:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"JSwift said...
Kenny stated: Vicious and heartless gloating. When her vindication comes live with your shame.

Kenny,

Is Nifong going to be vindicated as well, or just Mangum? I can't tell because no one is doing anything with any chance of success to advance either cause.

John D. Smith
New York, NY

Hey, John D. Smith.

When Mangum is vindicated (by her release and exoneration), Mike Nifong will enjoy a significant degree of vindication"

Except Crystal will never be vindicated with regard to her murder of Reginald Daye. Even if she were, how would that vindicate Mike Nifong. It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that Mike Nifong wrongfully prosecuted three innocent mrn for a crie which never happened.; November 7, 2016 at 5:06 AM
Anonymous said...: My guess is they are declining to respond because they don't want to waste the time. If the brief is so obviously a loser, they don't need to respond. For many of the reasons stated on this blog (which you've seen but ignored), your appeal has zero chance of success, so I suspect they are just ignoring it.; November 7, 2016 at 5:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Second of all, the last thing that the State would want to do is re-try Mangum on its flawed, flimsy, and fraudulent evidence that has more holes in it than a colander."

Presumes facts not in evidence, that you know wht flaws in a case are, that you know what a hole is, that you know what a colander is.; November 7, 2016 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid is still delusional - there is only 1 way for an exoneration without a judicial hearing - and that's a governor's pardon. The fact Sid has filed for nothing is proof he's just lying to Crystal.

As we've seen with Peterson, Howard, and many others - even if he ever gets around to filing something in the proper court, and the Court actually looks at it and orders a hearing, that takes a lot of time, and certainly won't happen by Christmas.

Sid, why do you enjoy lying to Crystal? You really are an abusive ass aren't you?; November 7, 2016 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 54 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 130 days since the end of June, 198 days since April 23rd, 237 days since the Ides of March, 1,081 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,432 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,399 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 7, 2016 at 5:14 AM
Anonymous said...: I like that Sid is now not showing us what he's doing - so, he's either lying about doing anything to further his emotional abuse of Crystal, or he knows it's gonna fail again and would just as soon we not know how pathetic his efforts are.; November 7, 2016 at 8:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid is all about transparency, except when it comes to him. On the other hand, if you have convinced yourself that powerful forces are engaged in a massive conspiracy against you, you have to operate covertly and secretively.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 7, 2016 at 9:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney said:

"First of all, Crystal is not going to get a new trial... she is going to be exonerated without having to go through a new trial."

So at least we know that Sidney's plan is to get a judge to release Mangum from jail based on his findings. He referenced the Hudson ruling but that person had not been to trial or convicted. Seems like a long shot at this point.; November 7, 2016 at 9:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Truth of the matter is that all three of the State's major material trial witnesses to the incident that night (Dr. Nichols, Aykia Hanes, Officer Curtis Knight) all committed perjury."

Presumes yet another fact not in evidence, that you yell the truth.; November 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Third of all, as Frederick Douglass said, "Power concedes nothing without a demand." When I filed my lawsuit against Wake D.A. Lorrin Freeman, I made a demand for justice for Crystal Mangum."

Evidence that you do not tell thr truth. You have posted multiple times that your lawsuit against DA Freeman was not about Crystal Mangum.; November 7, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Third of all, as Frederick Douglass said, "Power concedes nothing without a demand." When I filed my lawsuit against Wake D.A. Lorrin Freeman, I made a demand for justice for Crystal Mangum."

Yrt more evidence you do not tell the truth. You seek for Crystal Mangum not justice but rather a pass for murdering Reginald Daye.; November 7, 2016 at 11:27 AM
Anonymous said...: "Sid is all about transparency, except when it comes to him. On the other hand, if you have convinced yourself that powerful forces are engaged in a massive conspiracy against you, you have to operate covertly and secretively."

From

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Perfect description of Sidney Harr's Trumpian behavior. He was behaving like this years before Trump became the nominee of the Republican Party for President.; November 7, 2016 at 11:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"But I do believe with revelations about the injustices to Mangum will be cause for reasonable people to re-think their attitudes towards Mr. Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse case."

Presumes another fact not in evidence, that Sidney Harr is capable of knowing how a reasonable person would act or think.; November 7, 2016 at 11:52 AM
A Lawyer said...: Hey, A Lawyer.

First of all, Crystal is not going to get a new trial... she is going to be exonerated without having to go through a new trial.

(a) How is that even legally possible?
(b) Didn't you promise that Crystal would be exonerated by March 15? Didn't you promise again that she would be exonerated by April 23? Didn't you promise a third time that she would be exonerated by June 30? Why should anyone believe your predictions about this case?

Second of all, the last thing that the State would want to do is re-try Mangum on its flawed, flimsy, and fraudulent evidence that has more holes in it than a colander.

Before Mangum's trial, you repeatedly said that the State would never go to trial because they had no case. The jury disagreed.

Third of all, as Frederick Douglass said, "Power concedes nothing without a demand." When I filed my lawsuit against Wake D.A. Lorrin Freeman, I made a demand for justice for Crystal Mangum.

(a) First, if that's true, you had no standing to sue on Mangum's behalf.
(b) Second, in an effort to avoid dismissal of your suit for lack of standing, you claimed that your suit was not about Mangum but rather about your (supposed) right as a constituent to meet with Freeman. So you're contradicting yourself again.
(c) Third, your suit was dismissed, and the dismissal is certain to be affirmed on appeal.

Why don't you stop your fruitless efforts at litigating, and do something socially useful instead-- like volunteering at a phone bank for Hillary Clinton? She needs every vote she can get in North Carolina, if we are to avoid the horrors of a Trump presidency.; November 7, 2016 at 11:57 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: Perfect description of Sidney Harr's Trumpian behavior. He was behaving like this years before Trump became the nominee of the Republican Party for President."......................................Comparing Dr. Harr with Donald Trump is as ludicrous as comparing Dr. ML King with Idi Amin. Dr. Harr is the antithesis of this egocentric, racist, bigoted, buffoon.; November 7, 2016 at 8:39 PM
Desconocido said...: Hola, Kenhyderal,
Alfin el gordito Kilgo te dio la informacion que querias?; November 7, 2016 at 9:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 53 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 131 days since the end of June, 199 days since April 23rd, 238 days since the Ides of March, 1,082 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,433 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,398 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 8, 2016 at 2:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Comparing Dr. Harr with Donald Trump is as ludicrous as comparing Dr. ML King with Idi Amin. Dr. Harr is the antithesis of this egocentric, racist, bigoted, buffoon."

Wrong.

Sidney Harr IS an "egocentric, racist, bigoted, buffoon". Like Donald Trump, Sidney Harr blames his inadequacies on non existent conspiracies. And, like Trump, he is a liar.; November 8, 2016 at 3:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Comparing Dr. Harr with Donald Trump is as ludicrous as comparing Dr. ML King with Idi Amin."

Comparing Sidney Harr to Doctor Martin Luther King is not ludicrous, it is grossly ane totally obscene.; November 8, 2016 at 4:16 AM
kenhyderal said...: At one time, many of you didn't love Dr. King like you now profess to and now try and conceal your former shameful attitudes but you don't fool the people Dr. King was fighting for.; November 8, 2016 at 9:08 AM
guiowen said...: Once again, Kenny lets his racism show.; November 8, 2016 at 9:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Keenhyderal:

" At one time, many of you didn't love Dr. King like you now profess to and now try and conceal your former shameful attitudes but you don't fool the people Dr. King was fighting for."

Obviously Dr. King was not fighting for the likes of you or Sidney Harr, since the both of you are "egocentric, racist, bigoted, buffoon[s]". Dr. King would never have countenanced charging innocent men with a crime which nevr happened, just because of the race of the liar who accused them. Both you and Sidney Harr have repeatedly called for convictions in that hoax.; November 8, 2016 at 9:49 AM
kenhyderal said...: Nowadays you talk about Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton like you used to talk about Dr. King. Black people, including the King Family, recognize these civil rights advocates as worthy successors to Dr. King's legacy and so does President Obama and God willing "President Elect" Hillary Clinton.; November 8, 2016 at 10:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Nowadays you talk about Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton like you used to talk about Dr. King. Black people, including the King Family, recognize these civil rights advocates as worthy successors to Dr. King's legacy and so does President Obama and God willing "President Elect" Hillary Clinton."

Al Sharpton is a racist, responsible for the tawana brawley hoax, the crown heights and for furthering the arrempt to convict three innocent men falsely accused of rape by crystal mangum. Jesse Jackson hasn't done squat to promote racial harmony. Your opinions of these racists mean nothing, considering your deluded, false belief that Crystal Mangum was raped.; November 8, 2016 at 10:37 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny,

You expect us to believe that you possess the power to know what people you have never met now think and used to think about Martin Luther King?

You are just baselessly and stupidly sliming people you disagree with. It's no wonder no one takes you seriously. You are a flaming idiot.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 8, 2016 at 1:46 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said" "You expect us to believe that you possess the power to know what people you have never met now think and used to think about Martin Luther King?"....................................... Regarding Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton, I go by things they have written here. I noted those closest to Dr. King, his Family and his followers, those who had police dogs, police truncheons and water cannons unleashed upon them believe these men are his worthy successors continuing his struggle. Since Dr. King is now universally regarded as a great American, attacking him is no longer tolerable. But, you can still get away with attacking those were his true followers. Take a look at some old pictures of angry snarling, spitting crowds protesting school integration and see if you can spot any of your Grandparents; November 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Take a look at some old pictures of angry snarling, spitting crowds protesting school integration and see if you can spot any of your Grandparents"?

Can you spot race baiter Jesse actually standing there.

I cn guarantee you Race baiter was not there with Dr. King.; November 8, 2016 at 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 52 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 132 days since the end of June, 200 days since April 23rd, 239 days since the Ides of March, 1,083 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,434 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,397 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 9, 2016 at 3:56 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

As of today, November 9, 2016, Pacermonitor has not updated beyond September 13, 2016. Although PACER has allegedly posted the filing of my October 5, 2016 Informal Brief on Appeal, is there any indication that the Respondent Freeman has posted a response? Or that the Court has entered an Order?

If anyone has the answer to the above, I would appreciate you sharing them with me. Thanks.

Also, I still remain curious as to why Pacermonitor has not updated to include my Informal Brief... now more than a month after it was filed.

As you were.; November 9, 2016 at 4:26 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: From Pacermonitor:

Please direct all general inquiries, technical support issues or billing questions to:

support@pacermonitor.com

19 West 44th Street, Suite 1401
New York, NY 10036

Voicemail: 800-876-0695; November 9, 2016 at 6:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey Sid -- Remember when you said:
"knowing the reason why Pacermonitor has not updated my informal brief of October 4th is not a priority.."

Remember that? You said it about 2 weeks ago.; November 9, 2016 at 6:28 AM
Walt said...: Sid, as you well know, in the Freeman case you are a party litigant. As such, Rule 5 requires all responsive pleadings after the complaint be served on the party or their counsel of record. Since you are unrepresented, all responsive pleadings filed by other parties must be served on you. As you are not permitted to file using EC/CMF and you have refused to avail yourself of the PACER system, Rule 5 requires you be served with a hard copy by U.S. Mail, postage prepaid. If you have not received a response to your frivolous Informal Brief, then it is safe to say none has been filed. That is, unless you are deliberately not checking your U.S. Mail. In that case, too bad, so sad, hard cheese.

Walt-in-Durham; November 9, 2016 at 7:56 AM
kenhyderal said...: OMG, President Trump! I guess one should never over-estimate the intelligence of the American People; November 9, 2016 at 9:02 AM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
Sorry you're so upset about our election. Maybe if you hadn't meddled in it, talking about "God willing president-elect HRC", she wouldn't have lost all the votes around here.; November 9, 2016 at 9:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Listen Kenny --

We could park an aircraft carrier off the coast of Canada, send in a couple of sailors on leave to plant a flag on your f*cking front lawn and say "We're claiming this country in the name of the US of A!", and there's not a thing you or your fellow countrymen would do about it.

So keep the conversation on topic.

-President-Elect Donald Trump; November 9, 2016 at 9:55 AM
kenhyderal said...: Deplorable; November 9, 2016 at 10:06 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " Can you spot race baiter Jesse actually standing there"........
http://henrymakow.com/2015/07/%20Martin%20Luther%20King%20Murdered%20by%20Shadow%20Government.html; November 9, 2016 at 10:12 AM
A Lawyer said...: Maybe if Dr. Harr and his supporters had spent their time working phonebanks and ringing doorbells for Hillary instead of wasting their time on doomed-to-fail lawsuits, I would be less depressed this morning.; November 9, 2016 at 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

http://henrymakow.com/2015/07/%20Martin%20Luther%20King%20Murdered%20by%20Shadow%20Government.html

Yes Race baiter Jesse was in Memphis. The question is, was he actually stnding with Dr. King in Selma.

From your URL:

"By April, 1968, Martin Luther King, Jr. had clearly gone beyond the familiar terrain of racial politics practised(sic) by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton."

Al Sharpton never came into national prominence until the late 80's. Dr. King, as you should knew, was assassinated in 1968. Race Baiter Al was born on born October 3, 1954.; November 9, 2016 at 12:47 PM
kenhyderal said...: FROM SELMA TO MONTGOMERY REV. AL SHARPTON & MARTIN LUTHER KING III, ALONG WITH PARTNERS IN CIVIL RIGHTS & LABOR CONCLUDE THE HISTORIC MARCH FOR VOTING RIGHTS & IMMIGRATION REFORM— MSNBC TO COVER REV. SHARPTON’S SPEECH LIVE AT 2:05 P.M. EST; November 9, 2016 at 3:48 PM
kenhyderal said...: FROM SELMA TO MONTGOMERY REV. AL SHARPTON & MARTIN LUTHER KING III, ALONG WITH PARTNERS IN CIVIL RIGHTS & LABOR CONCLUDE THE HISTORIC MARCH FOR VOTING RIGHTS & IMMIGRATION REFORM— MSNBC TO COVER REV. SHARPTON’S SPEECH LIVE AT 2:05 P.M. EST; November 9, 2016 at 3:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s march from Selma happened inn 1965.

Race Baiter Al's march with Marin Luther King III, son of Martin Luther King Jr, took place in 2012, 47 years after Martin Luther King Jr.'s march from Selma to Montgomery. Race Baiter Al had no association with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.; November 9, 2016 at 4:24 PM
kenhyderal said...: But my point is that the King Family recognizes and accepts Rev.Sharpton as a civil rights advocate in the same spirit as Rev. Dr. King and that certainly goes for Rev. Jackson as well. The same charges of race-baiting now applied to them was once also shamefully applied to Rev. Dr. King.; November 9, 2016 at 9:35 PM
fake ubes said...: Don't worry, Kenhyderal, you're the only rece-baiter we know.; November 9, 2016 at 10:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr.King never supported false rape accusers like Tawana Brawley and Crystal Mangum the way Jackson and Sharpton did.Big difference.; November 10, 2016 at 2:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Roy Cooper,the hero of the Duke rape hoax who declared the young men innocent,has declared victory in the North Carolina governor's race.; November 10, 2016 at 2:21 AM
Anonymous said...: November 8,2016 was a great victory for white America.; November 10, 2016 at 2:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"But my point is that the King Family recognizes and accepts Rev.Sharpton as a civil rights advocate in the same spirit as Rev. Dr. King and that certainly goes for Rev. Jackson as well. The same charges of race-baiting now applied to them was once also shamefully applied to Rev. Dr. King."

Your point was, race baiter Al and race baiter Jesse stood wiyh Dr. King wen he faced down the segregationists. You have offered no evidence that they did.

If the King family accepts unreentant race baiter Al as a civil rights advocate they dishonor the heritage of Dr. King, and that is sad. And you are a pathetic hypocrite for willfully ignoring that fact.; November 10, 2016 at 2:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 51 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 133 days since the end of June, 201 days since April 23rd, 240 days since the Ides of March, 1,084 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,435 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,396 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 10, 2016 at 4:47 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Why did you try to pass off an event involving race-baiter Al Sharpton and Rev. Martin Luther King's son in 2012 as happening in 1960's and involving Rev. King?

Was this another one of your many lies, or were you just too sloppy and lazy to take the time to read and understand what you found before posting it? Or are you really that stupid?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 10, 2016 at 7:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Kind of remindful of the time Kenhyderal claimed rhat Mike Nifong did not have the Duke Lacrosse players charged with rape.; November 10, 2016 at 9:07 AM
guiowen said...: Abe,
Why are you surprised? Kenny does this type of stuff all the time.; November 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "Why did you try to pass off an event involving race-baiter Al Sharpton and Rev. Martin Luther King's son in 2012 as happening in 1960's and involving Rev. King?".................................... No,I did not.; November 10, 2016 at 10:24 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "If the King family accepts unreentant race baiter Al as a civil rights advocate they dishonor the heritage of Dr. King, and that is sad. And you are a pathetic hypocrite for willfully ignoring that fact.".................. You seem to think you know more about Dr. King than does his Family. You're sounding a lot like Trump' (eg. knowing more about ISIL then the Generals; November 10, 2016 at 10:28 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny said:

"Take a look at some old pictures of angry snarling, spitting crowds protesting school integration and see if you can spot any of your Grandparents"

If you see a picture of my grandmother snarling and spitting at a civil rights protest in the 1960's that's because she was a zombie. She died in the 1950's.

Are you intellectually capable of making a valid, rational argument?

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Abe said: "Why did you try to pass off an event involving race-baiter Al Sharpton and Rev. Martin Luther King's son in 2012 as happening in 1960's and involving Rev. King?".................................... No,I did not."

Yes you did. Now you are trying to cover your butt.; November 10, 2016 at 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "If the King family accepts unreentant race baiter Al as a civil rights advocate they dishonor the heritage of Dr. King, and that is sad. And you are a pathetic hypocrite for willfully ignoring that fact.".................. You seem to think you know more about Dr. King than does his Family."

I am expressing an opinion about Dr. King's family, that they trfuse to disavow an unrepentant race baiter, Al Shatpton who pushed the Tawana Brawley hoax and fomented the Crown Heights black on white race riot, things which Dr. King would have never countenanced. And that opinion is based on what I have read about Dr. King in the public record.

"You're sounding a lot like Trump' (eg. knowing more about ISIL then the Generals".

No I'm not. I have caught you with your butt exposed nd you are frantically and unsuccessfully trying to cover it.; November 10, 2016 at 12:03 PM
A Lawyer said...: November 8,2016 was a great victory for white America.

November 8, 2016, was a great defeat for all America.; November 10, 2016 at 12:09 PM
Anonymous said...: November 8, 2016, was a great defeat for all America.

No, it stopped the coronation of Hillary and hopefully will shutdown the Clinton Foundation.; November 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "Are you intellectually capable of making a valid, rational argument?"..........................Yes, I am. Abe, obviously, I wasn't targeting any particular individual. I was only being sarcastic about those who now, as they should, revere Dr.King but who can't bring themselves to admit that at one time he was reviled as a race baiter by many, just as Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton are now. Too subtle for you, eh?; November 10, 2016 at 1:32 PM
guiowen said...: Kenny,
Just to point out: MLK Jr. never got involved in such a mess as the Tawana Brawley case, and never in such a mess as the Duke lax case. So he was very different from both Jackson and Sharpton.; November 10, 2016 at 1:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Abe said: "Are you intellectually capable of making a valid, rational argument?"..........................Yes, I am. Abe, obviously, I wasn't targeting any particular individual. I was only being sarcastic about those who now, as they should, revere Dr.King but who can't bring themselves to admit that at one time he was reviled as a race baiter by many, just as Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton are now. Too subtle for you, eh? "

No you weren't. You were saying race baiter al and race baiter jesse were there with Dr. King when he was up against violent opposition. You have provided no evidence race baiter jesse was there in the trenches. Race baiter al was too young to have ever been there with Dr. King.; November 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 50 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 134 days since the end of June, 202 days since April 23rd, 241 days since the Ides of March, 1,085 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,436 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,395 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 11, 2016 at 1:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 49 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 135 days since the end of June, 203 days since April 23rd, 242 days since the Ides of March, 1,086 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,437 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,394 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 12, 2016 at 6:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 48 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 136 days since the end of June, 204 days since April 23rd, 243 days since the Ides of March, 1,087 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,438 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,393 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 13, 2016 at 4:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Have Kenhyderal and Sidney Harr finally taken Abraham Lincoln's advice? Paraphrased: It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Let's hope so.; November 13, 2016 at 4:24 AM
kenhyderal said...: "Silence is Wisdom where Speaking is Folly"--Wm.Penn.; November 13, 2016 at 8:50 PM
guiowen said...: And most of Kenny's speech is folly.; November 13, 2016 at 9:14 PM
kenhyderal said...: "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something" Plato.; November 13, 2016 at 9:45 PM
guiowen said...: And, as usual, Kenny has to say something.; November 13, 2016 at 9:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 47 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 137 days since the end of June, 205 days since April 23rd, 244 days since the Ides of March, 1,088 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,439 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,392 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 14, 2016 at 3:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"'Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something' Plato."

First you said Crystal Mangum used the mattress of the bed in th apartment to shield herself from Reginald Daye. It was pointed out to you that crime scene photos showed no evidence the mattress had been pulled off the bed. Then you said Crystal lifted up the corner of the mattress and then it dropped back into place. Then you said the mattress had been pulled off the bed when Reginald Daye pulled Crystal off the bed.

So tell us. Were you speaking because you had something to say. Or were you speaking because you wanted to say something?; November 14, 2016 at 6:13 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Guiowen and Anonymous 6:13.................................. Pot and Kettle cf. Anon at 4:24 11/13/16 and Guiowen at 9:14 11-13-16 Crystal detractors without exception apply double standards.; November 14, 2016 at 9:19 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Guiowen and Anonymous 6:13.................................. Pot and Kettle cf. Anon at 4:24 11/13/16 and Guiowen at 9:14 11-13-16 Crystal detractors without exception apply double standards.; November 14, 2016 at 9:21 AM
Ubes said...: Kenhyderal,
Cutting and pasting Plato's sayings does not make you another Plato.; November 14, 2016 at 9:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal is frustrated.; November 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM
kenhyderal said...: Ubes said: Kenhyderal,
Cutting and pasting Plato's sayings does not make you another Plato."..........Daah!; November 14, 2016 at 3:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney said:

"Also, I still remain curious as to why Pacermonitor has not updated to include my Informal Brief... now more than a month after it was filed."

You were told, it is not a free site. Pay up, then you can complain to them.

Or pay for Pacer. Your choice. Otherwise, do it the old fashion way, call the clerk of the court. Or take a road trip to the clerk of the court. Or write a letter.; November 14, 2016 at 5:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 46 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 138 days since the end of June, 206 days since April 23rd, 245 days since the Ides of March, 1,089 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,440 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,391 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 15, 2016 at 2:42 AM
unbekannte said...: Kenhygeral

"Ubes said: Kenhyderal,
Cutting and pasting Plato's sayings does not make you another Plato."..........Daah!

It wasn't mw, you incredibly stupi individual.; November 15, 2016 at 8:23 AM
kenhyderal said...: Unbekannte said" It wasn't me"......................... Of that, I am perfectly aware. No need for, gratuitous, insults.; November 15, 2016 at 9:18 AM
kenhyderal said...: Unbekannte said" It wasn't me"......................... Of that, I am perfectly aware. No need for, gratuitous, insults.; November 15, 2016 at 9:19 AM
Ubes said...: What makes you think that the insult was gratuitous?; November 15, 2016 at 10:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"

Unbekannte said" It wasn't me"......................... Of that, I am perfectly aware. No need for, gratuitous, insults. "

Krnhyderal again, futilely, trying to cover his butt.; November 15, 2016 at 10:16 AM
Ubes said...: Also, Kenhyderal,
Hast du dann was zu sagen?; November 15, 2016 at 7:01 PM
kenhyderal said...: Erst denken, dann sprechen.; November 15, 2016 at 8:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 45 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 139 days since the end of June, 207 days since April 23rd, 246 days since the Ides of March, 1,090 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,441 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,390 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 16, 2016 at 2:56 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal:

"Erst denken, dann sprechen."

Es ist ynmoeglich dass Sie denkan kann.; November 16, 2016 at 4:31 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm still curious how he thinks anything will happen with Mangum in 45 days when he hasn't filed anything that could help, and no hearings have been scheduled. It takes months for hearings to be scheduled, even after stuff is properly filed - it's not going to happen in 45 days, and if he's pretending to Crystal there is a chance in hell she could be out by the end of the year, he is the abusive ass most of us believe his is.

Kenny, do you support Sid lying to Crystal and giving her false hope that she can be out by the end of the year? Even if he does finally get something filed right, and even if the Judge thinks there might be merit, there would have to be a hearing, and it cannot be set by the end of the year

Or do you join in his abuse?; November 16, 2016 at 5:47 AM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 16, 2016 at 8:37 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said"Es ist ynmoeglich dass Sie denkan kann"........................ Ja Gewiss.; November 16, 2016 at 8:40 AM
Ubes said...: Kenny,
Du ast nun aber nicht gesagt, ob du denken kannst.; November 16, 2016 at 10:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Kennt kenhygeral wisst wer ist oder ist nicht ubes? Ich denke nicht.; November 16, 2016 at 1:09 PM
Anonymous said...: It should be, Kenhyderal weisst nicht wer ubes ist oder ist nicht.; November 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM
Ubes said...: Kenhyderal weiss nichts -- gar nichts.; November 16, 2016 at 4:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 44 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 140 days since the end of June, 208 days since April 23rd, 247 days since the Ides of March, 1,091 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,442 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,389 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 17, 2016 at 3:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 43 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 141 days since the end of June, 209 days since April 23rd, 248 days since the Ides of March, 1,092 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,443 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,388 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 18, 2016 at 3:14 AM
JSwift said...: Sid:

You have 42 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 142 days since the end of June, 210 days since April 23rd, 249 days since the Ides of March, 1,093 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,444 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,387 days.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; November 19, 2016 at 10:41 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm still curious how he thinks anything will happen with Mangum in 45 days when he hasn't filed anything that could help, and no hearings have been scheduled. It takes months for hearings to be scheduled, even after stuff is properly filed - it's not going to happen in 45 days, and if he's pretending to Crystal there is a chance in hell she could be out by the end of the year, he is the abusive ass most of us believe his is.

Kenny, do you support Sid lying to Crystal and giving her false hope that she can be out by the end of the year? Even if he does finally get something filed right, and even if the Judge thinks there might be merit, there would have to be a hearing, and it cannot be set by the end of the year

Or do you join in his abuse?

First of all, you are misinformed if you believe that there is no petition or legal motion currently pending in Crystal Mangum's case. I am hopeful that a determination with regard to the filing will be issued within a matter of days, if not weeks. There remains the great possibility that Crystal will be freed prior to Christmas.; November 20, 2016 at 4:10 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Have Kenhyderal and Sidney Harr finally taken Abraham Lincoln's advice? Paraphrased: It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Let's hope so.

Actually, that advice is meant for fools, which automatically excludes me. The fact is that I have been away from commenting because I have been extremely busy working on Mangum's case and on a sharlog.... and because I have just returned from a week-long trip to the west. I will try to contribute comments more frequently in the future.; November 20, 2016 at 4:16 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
November 8,2016 was a great victory for white America.

November 8, 2016, was a great defeat for all America.

Hey, A Lawyer.

A very profound statement, and one with which I cannot really disagree.; November 20, 2016 at 4:19 AM
Anonymous said...: First of all, you are misinformed if you believe that there is no petition or legal motion currently pending in Crystal Mangum's case. I am hopeful that a determination with regard to the filing will be issued within a matter of days, if not weeks. There remains the great possibility that Crystal will be freed prior to Christmas.

If you are referring to your frivolous lawsuit against Freeman, as has repeatedly been explained to you, nothing in that can free Crystal - and there would still be a hearing. You've watched Peterson, Howard, and the rest - there were always hearings.

You are a liar, an abuser, and a disgrace.; November 20, 2016 at 5:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Have Kenhyderal and Sidney Harr finally taken Abraham Lincoln's advice? Paraphrased: It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Let's hope so.

Actually, that advice is meant for fools, which automatically excludes me."

You are such a grossly deluded fool you can not recognize that this advice DOES apply to you.; November 20, 2016 at 5:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 41 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 143 days since the end of June, 211 days since April 23rd, 250 days since the Ides of March, 1,094 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,445 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,386 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 20, 2016 at 5:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney said:

"There remains the great possibility that Crystal will be freed prior to Christmas."

In reality:

There remains the great possibility that Crystal will be freed prior to Christmas 2026. Meaning 2/27/2026.; November 20, 2016 at 8:26 AM
Anonymous said...: If you are not a fool, why do you believe in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary that members of the Duke Lacrosse team raped Crystal Mangum?; November 20, 2016 at 8:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

You say you are not a fool.

Regarding Mike Nifong and the Duke Rape Case:

He had no evidence that anyone on the Duke Lacrosse Team raped Crystal Mangum.

Crystal could not reliably identify any member of the Lacrosse team as an assailany.

He had evidence hich indicated that, if Crystal had been raped, the perpetrators were people other than Lacrosse ream members.

He refused too look at alibi evidence.

He made extra judicial statements which inflamed public opinion against members of the Lacrosse team, which undermined basic Constitutional rights, such as right to counsel, right to remain silent.

He presumed members of the Lacrosse tram guilty.

He lied to the court about evidence which was exculpatory.

He concealed exculpatory evidence.

Yet you described Mike Nifong as a decent, honorable, courageous prosecutor who acted with integrity.

And you expect the public to believe you tell the truth.

You have convicted yourself out of your own mouth of multiple counts of bring a fool.; November 20, 2016 at 9:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 40 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 144 days since the end of June, 212 days since April 23rd, 251 days since the Ides of March, 1,095 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,446 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,385 days.

It has been 143 days since the end of June, 211 days since April 23rd, 250 days since the Ides of March, 1,094 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,445 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,386 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 21, 2016 at 2:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Everyone:

Please disregard the above post.

Sid has 40 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 144 days since the end of June, 212 days since April 23rd, 251 days since the Ides of March, 1,095 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,446 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,385 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 21, 2016 at 2:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

" I am hopeful that a determination with regard to the filing will be issued within a matter of days, if not weeks. There remains the great possibility that Crystal will be freed prior to Christmas."

You are only making a fool of yourself.; November 21, 2016 at 4:25 AM
Anonymous said...: No, he's not making a fool of himself, he's giving false hope and emotionally abusing Crystal with the assistance of Kenny.

They are liars, abusers, and just in general cruel to keep giving her false hope that they know will fail, so they can watch her hurt.; November 21, 2016 at 8:07 AM
Anonymous said...: The Parliament of the great country of Canada debates a matter of most importance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDNw_vbm_7U; November 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Wow. They are all white. And not just white. They are the whitest white people I have ever seen.

I know Canada is basically all Caucasian, but it is still shocking to see so little diversity in a modern Western society.; November 21, 2016 at 1:45 PM
Anonymous said...: FWIW -- Asians and "Black" people (either African or Caribbean origin), make up the 2 largest minorities in Canada.

If you separate Southern Asians from Chinese, the demographics change a bit -- With the Southern Asians at #1, Chinese at #2, and Black Canadians at #3.

The problem isn't that Canada is all Caucasian -- it's that the Parliament isn't a true reflection of the Canadian people.; November 21, 2016 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: What percentage of the Canadian population is black? Three percent? An all white parliament would seem to be a true reflection of the demographics of Canada.; November 21, 2016 at 2:15 PM
kenhyderal said...: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/22/canada-new-parliament-most-diverse-ever; November 21, 2016 at 2:40 PM
kenhyderal said...: http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/bravo-canada-congratulations-pour-in-for-trudeau-diverse-cabinet-1.2642655; November 21, 2016 at 2:44 PM
A Lawyer said...: I am hopeful that a determination with regard to the filing will be issued within a matter of days, if not weeks. There remains the great possibility that Crystal will be freed prior to Christmas.

Just like she was on March 15, April 23 and June 30.; November 21, 2016 at 2:45 PM
kenhyderal said...: http://www.canada.com/Visible+minorities+Canada+breakdown/8354192/story.html; November 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 39 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 145 days since the end of June, 213 days since April 23rd, 252 days since the Ides of March, 1,096 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,447 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,384 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 22, 2016 at 12:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Today is the third anniversary of Mangum's conviction and sentencing for murdering Reginald Daye. Please take a moment to remember and, if you are so inclined, pray for Mr. Daye and his family.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 22, 2016 at 1:03 AM
kenhyderal said...: "Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering"--Hebrews 13:3; November 22, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: “The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

-Darrell; November 22, 2016 at 10:18 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Oops -- I asked a friend (and English teacher) for the Shakespeare quote cited above....And inadvertently cited my friend instead of William Shakespeare.

My apologies to both....; November 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM
guiowen said...: Fake Kenhyderal,
You know, the real Kenhyderal always reminds me of some fellow that appears in the bible -- in Matthew 4, and also in Luke 4.; November 22, 2016 at 11:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Kanhyderal:

"Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering"--Hebrews 13:3"

Very inspiring, but it does not change the FACT that Crystal Mangum is in prison because she murdered Reginald Daye.; November 22, 2016 at 11:26 AM
Anonymous said...: "Thou shalt not kill."

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

Exodus 20:1–17; Deuteronomy 5:6–21

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 22, 2016 at 6:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 38 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been 146 days since the end of June, 214 days since April 23rd, 253 days since the Ides of March, 1,097 days since Mangum was convicted of murdering Reginald Daye and 3,448 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred. Mangum is scheduled to be released from prison in 3,383 days.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; November 23, 2016 at 3:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Blogger kenhyderal said...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/22/canada-new-parliament-most-diverse-ever

It's nice to see that Canada has elected a small number of white women to Parliament. How progressive of them.; November 23, 2016 at 6:37 AM
kenhyderal said...: Canada 26% US 19%; November 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Canada lets a few women hold office, but they pretty much draw the line when it comes to skin color. They don't call it the Great White North for nothing.; November 23, 2016 at 9:35 AM
kenhyderal said...: You know the idea of American "exceptionalism" held by so many there, up to including your Presidents, seems ludicrous to the rest of the word. On just about every measure America is usually found wanting especially in comparison to Canada . Yes we do have all the same problems but mostly to a lesser degree. As far as quality of life, overall health care, overall education, justice, crime and tolerance the US persistently is rated below Canada and most Western European Nations. Your Democracy is tainted by money and gerrymandering. Your institutions such as your Senate and your Electoral College are undemocratic. Your criminal justice system discriminates against the poor and minorities. You incarcerate more of your citizens then almost all other countries. Your gun laws are barbaric and uncivilized. Your 18th Century Constitution is outdated and anachronistic. But what do I know I'm just an unarmed Canadian with cradle to grave single-payer universal health care.; November 23, 2016 at 10:13 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhygrtal:

"But what do I know I'm just an unarmed Canadian with cradle to grave single-payer universal health care."

You know nithing, not because of your nationality which is something you relly had nothing to do with, but because you are prejudiced, biased and deluded.; November 23, 2016 at 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...: You sound jealous and insecure, Kenny. Canada is a great place. I spent a week there one night.; November 23, 2016 at 11:41 AM
guiowen said...: Oh, let Kenny spout off! He probably thinks that, if he does so we'll berlieve he's actually doing something to help Crystal.; November 23, 2016 at 12:45 PM
kenhyderal said...: I have confidence in Dr. Harr. "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.” Churchill (eventually and years behind other civilized nations); November 23, 2016 at 1:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, America doesn't follow Europe. We are the alternative to Europe.; November 23, 2016 at 1:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"I have confidence in Dr. Harr."

Explain why, after reviewing Abe Froman's posts. When has Sidney Harr ever achieved any of his stated goals?

He has failed to force the NC Barr to restore Mike Nifong's law license.

He failed to keep Crystal Mangum from going to trial

He has failed to prevent Crystal's conviction.

He has failed to get any of the lawsuirs he has filed into court, in spite of his claim to havean extensive comprehension of the law.

And that record of failure is no due to any imaginary conspiracy against sidney harr.; November 23, 2016 at 2:08 PM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "But what do I know I'm just an unarmed Canadian with cradle to grave single-payer universal health care." Apparently, you don't know much.

For democratic institutions, you have a hereditary monarch who is represented by a Governor General who is appointed by the Queen of England on the advice of the Prime Minister. What could be more democratic than that?

But wait, there's more. Your Prime Minister, the real executive power in government is elected by his or in very rare cases her political party. No one in the other parties even gets a vote on who the Prime Minister might be. To elect a Prime Minister, people have to vote for their local Member of Parliament. That local M.P. then elects his or her leader and if that party has enough seats in the Parliament the Prime Minister of that party is elected. Of course the party can fire the Prime Minister without ever even taking a vote of the people and put in someone all new. And, just by a simple majority of the party in power.

Of course the Canadian Senate Ontario gets 24 Senators and British Columbia gets 6. Yet Ontario is only three times as populous as British Columbia. Saskatchewan with only one quarter of the population of British Columbia gets six Senators. With even less population than Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia gets four more Senators. Of course your lower house of parliament is divided into Ridings, which we would call congressional districts. Canada's Ridings vary in in population from 28,000 people to 118,000 people. Yep, that's very democratic.

Don't get all holier than thou about Canada. It's a functioning democracy, just as ours is. The Westminster system generally makes for less gridlock in government but that is by no means assured. Our system puts a brake on the tyranny of the majority and generally functions very well.

Walt-in-Durham; November 23, 2016 at 2:48 PM
Anonymous said...: What I like most about Canada is that the only have two seasons: Winter and July.; November 23, 2016 at 3:27 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Walt: The Monarch and her Governor General are only ceremonial and have no political power. Likewise the Appointed Senate which is "supposedly" made up of distinguished people reviews legislation for the purpose of "so-called" "sober second thought" without fear of political consequences but can only suggest changes/improvements to legislation. Too often in the past they have been political patronage appointments but the present Liberal Government is changing that There is a broader range of political choices in Canada with multiple Political Parties three of which do have a chance at power. The population discrepancies in ridings pale in comparison to Wyoming and California each having two senators. Any holier than thou reaction on the part of Canadians is triggered by the ridiculous and oft expressed " holier than thou" belief in American Exceptionalism; November 23, 2016 at 4:50 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: And that record of failure is no due to any imaginary conspiracy against sidney harr"..................It's due to the broken and corrupt and entrenched US Justice and Legal System that gives unequal justice to poor minorities. Dr. Harr is the "voice crying in the wilderness" seeking equal justice for all. He will overcome.; November 23, 2016 at 9:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: And that record of failure is no due to any imaginary conspiracy against sidney harr"..................It's due to the broken and corrupt and entrenched US Justice and Legal System that gives unequal justice to poor minorities. Dr. Harr is the "voice crying in the wilderness" seeking equal justice for all. He will overcome. "

Wrong.

If the US justice system were corrupt, the innocent Lacrosse players would have been convicted of rape, even though all the evidence proved there was no rape.

And as Sidney Harr continues tp advocate for their guilt, and conyinues to advocate for Crystal to get a pass for murdering Reginald Daye,he is hardlt a voice in the wilderness fr justice. He is more like a narcissistic spoiled brat screaming for people to pay attention to him.; November 24, 2016 at 3:28 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: And that record of failure is no due to any imaginary conspiracy against sidney harr"..................It's due to the broken and corrupt and entrenched US Justice and Legal System that gives unequal justice to poor minorities. Dr. Harr is the "voice crying in the wilderness" seeking equal justice for all. He will overcome. "

Wrong.

If the US justice system were corrupt, the innocent Lacrosse players would have been convicted of rape, even though all the evidence proved there was no rape.

And as Sidney Harr continues tp advocate for their guilt, and conyinues to advocate for Crystal to get a pass for murdering Reginald Daye,he is hardlt a voice in the wilderness fr justice. He is more like a narcissistic spoiled brat screaming for people to pay attention to him.

Clearly, kenhyderal is correct. I am not screaming for attention, I am screaming for justice for Crystal Mangum. Whether or not you believe it, Lady Justice is around the corner, and hopefully she will be freed and exonerated before the end of the year.; November 24, 2016 at 4:46 AM

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