justice4nifong: My vis-a-vis encounter with James Goodmon

Wednesday, November 8, 2017

My vis-a-vis encounter with James Goodmon

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Anonymous said...: Udaman Kenny.; November 19, 2017 at 6:55 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: KENHYDERAL:

I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MALEK. WHAT’S YOUR CONNECTION TO MALEK YOU DUMB ASS?; November 19, 2017 at 7:53 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A. said: "You refer to a kilgo imposter. I say that version of kilgo is a figment of your imagination".................... Logic Dr. A. logic. See the post at 10:30 AM 11-19-17 Or. are you imagining it's not really there? I've convinced myself, by questioning him, that it's not the Kilgo who used to post here. There are questions the real Great Kilgo would know the answers to he is unable to answer.; November 19, 2017 at 9:30 PM
kenhyderal said...: The Poster purporting to be Kilgo said: "I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MALEK. WHAT’S YOUR CONNECTION TO MALEK YOU DUMB ASS?" Like you Malek Williams is an imposter and his motive is to make trouble for Crystal while pretending to have concern for her. To that end he cuts and pastes old posts of mine under his name claiming to be a high-school classmate of hers. When Crystal said she had no knowledge of him he claimed she knows him by what he calls his former slave name which, he will no longer use. Suspiciously the poster Dr. Doogie Howser has now engaged in the same practice of cutting and pasting old posts of mine under his name. Why don't you jerks get a life. This is not a game an innocent Mother of three has been unjustly convicted. Stp making sport of this deplorable situation; November 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM
guiowen said...: Poor old Kenny,
Why don't YOU get a life and do something for Crystal?
Or are you doing something so incredible that you have to keep it secret?; November 19, 2017 at 9:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Kennhyderal:

"Dr. A. said: "You refer to a kilgo imposter. I say that version of kilgo is a figment of your imagination".................... Logic Dr. A. logic. See the post at 10:30 AM 11-19-17 Or. are you imagining it's not really there? I've convinced myself, by questioning him, that it's not the Kilgo who used to post here. There are questions the real Great Kilgo would know the answers to he is unable to answer."

Spin it any wayyou like, kilgo, whoever or whatever he is, is probably a figment of your imagination.; November 20, 2017 at 2:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"The Poster purporting to be Kilgo said: "I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MALEK. WHAT’S YOUR CONNECTION TO MALEK YOU DUMB ASS?" Like you Malek Williams is an imposter and his motive is to make trouble for Crystal while pretending to have concern for her. To that end he cuts and pastes old posts of mine under his name claiming to be a high-school classmate of hers. When Crystal said she had no knowledge of him he claimed she knows him by what he calls his former slave name which, he will no longer use. Suspiciously the poster Dr. Doogie Howser has now engaged in the same practice of cutting and pasting old posts of mine under his name. Why don't you jerks get a life. This is not a game an innocent Mother of three has been unjustly convicted. Stp making sport of this deplorable situation".

The only deplorable situation here, besides Sidney's delusional megalomania, is your presumption of guilt on the part of the innocent members of the Lacrosse team who were charged with raping Crystal. What makes it deplorable is, again, there is zero evidence Crystal was raped, there is zero evidence that Crystal ever told the truth when she, in a self serving manner(she wasted to avoid involuntary commitment for detox), alleged she had been raped. Just like the self serving manner in which she tried to spin the story of her assault on a police officer after she had been outed as the victiizer/false accuser in the Duke Rape Hoax.; November 20, 2017 at 2:59 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous desconocido said...
Evans , Finnerty and Seligmann asked that she not be pursued criminally, Cheshire said, because, "We felt sorry for her, and we felt to some degree, she had been victimized by the process."

"We wanted it to be over, and clearly she doesn't want it to be over," Cheshire added.

November 18, 2017 at 11:52 AM

Hey, desconocido.

Could you please give a link or source to the statements made by Mr. Cheshire?

Another question for you. Are you aware of any case in which a sexual assault defendant was able to bring criminal charges against the alleged assault victim? If so, could you provide a source? Thanks.; November 20, 2017 at 4:53 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Labeling Crystal as mentally ill was an integral part of a strategy by the Duke Lacrosse Defence to discredit her and to call in to question her accusation of rape. Crystal has had no major mental illness that would detach her from reality but like a large minority of the population she has had some treatable exogenous anxiety and depressive symptoms. As well she did suffer post traumatic stress after her sexual assaults

November 18, 2017 at 11:41 AM

Hey, Doogie.

I agree with you about the mental health strategy used by Cheshire and Duke Lacrosse defense team against Crystal Mangum. To further perpetuate that, Mangum's attorney Chris Shella undermined her by requesting that she undergo a mental health evaluation... something of which the media made a big deal.

As I have repeatedly said, she is no more mentally ill or unstable than am I.

Continue to preach the truth, Doog.; November 20, 2017 at 5:02 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenny:

Don't forget me.

Even if you think something guiowen said was untrue, how do you libel a convicted murderer and a proven liar and false accuser? What damage to their reputation, current relationships and future prospects can an incarcerated murderer, proven liar and false accuser suffer? Who do you imagine would represent someone like Crystal in such a frivolous lawsuit?

At this point, there is probably nothing anyone could say about Crystal that would libel her or damage her reputation any worse than she has damaged it herself. She is libel proof.

November 17, 2017 at 3:15 PM

There is no such thing as being "libel-proof"! Even the biggest liar in the world (and I am in no way conceding that Crystal is a liar) has rights protected by laws and cannot be defamed with unbiased claims. If you don't believe me, ask A Lawyer or Walt.; November 20, 2017 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenny:

Don't forget me.

Even if you think something guiowen said was untrue, how do you libel a convicted murderer and a proven liar and false accuser? What damage to their reputation, current relationships and future prospects can an incarcerated murderer, proven liar and false accuser suffer? Who do you imagine would represent someone like Crystal in such a frivolous lawsuit?

At this point, there is probably nothing anyone could say about Crystal that would libel her or damage her reputation any worse than she has damaged it herself. She is libel proof.

November 17, 2017 at 3:15 PM

There is no such thing as being "libel-proof"! Even the biggest liar in the world (and I am in no way conceding that Crystal is a liar) has rights protected by laws and cannot be defamed with unbiased claims. If you don't believe me, ask A Lawyer or Walt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenny:

Don't forget me.

Even if you think something guiowen said was untrue, how do you libel a convicted murderer and a proven liar and false accuser? What damage to their reputation, current relationships and future prospects can an incarcerated murderer, proven liar and false accuser suffer? Who do you imagine would represent someone like Crystal in such a frivolous lawsuit?

At this point, there is probably nothing anyone could say about Crystal that would libel her or damage her reputation any worse than she has damaged it herself. She is libel proof.

November 17, 2017 at 3:15 PM

There is no such thing as being "libel-proof"! Even the biggest liar in the world (and I am in no way conceding that Crystal is a liar) has rights protected by laws and cannot be defamed with unbiased claims. If you don't believe me, ask A Lawyer or Walt."

Why should anyone ask a lawyer a legal question just because you tell them to do so. You do not take legal advice. One result of this was that you failed to believe your defamation suits were without merit for the reason that you, not the courts, decided whether or not you were defamed.

Explain how Crystal lying about being raped and falsely accusing innocent men of perpetrating the non existent crime was not defamatory. You say no one proved Crystal lied. The results of the DNA testing confirmed Crystal had lied. Crystal alleged a gang rape in which multiple members of the Lacrosse team had raped her and had deposited their bodily fluids on her, meaning there should have been DNA evidence. The DNA found on Crystal did not match the DNA of any of the members of the Lacrosse team, did not match the DNA of the three men she fingered in the improper lineup procedure, which was ordered by Nifong to manufacture evidence against members of the Lacrosse team.

The only reason Crystal was not sued is that the men she accused gave her a break.; November 20, 2017 at 5:42 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: To quote Rick Perry, "Oopsie!" In my 5:10 comment I meant to say "baseless" instead of "unbiased" claims. My bad.; November 20, 2017 at 5:50 AM
A Lawyer said...: There is no such thing as being "libel-proof"! Even the biggest liar in the world (and I am in no way conceding that Crystal is a liar) has rights protected by laws and cannot be defamed with unbiased claims. If you don't believe me, ask A Lawyer or Walt.

There is indeed a legal doctrine recognized, at least in some jurisdictions, of someone being "libel proof" when their reputation is so bad that no statement, even if false, could further harm it. When Charles Manson was alive, a statement that he was convicted of bank robbery and kidnapping would have been false, but not actionable.; November 20, 2017 at 7:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"To quote Rick Perry, "Oopsie!" In my 5:10 comment I meant to say "baseless" instead of "unbiased" claims. My bad."

Kind of a hypocritical statement considering it comes from someone who has a long track record of filing obviously baseless lawsuits and then complaining that the justice system is biased against him when it dismisses them.; November 20, 2017 at 8:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"Another question for you. Are you aware of any case in which a sexual assault defendant was able to bring criminal charges against the alleged assault victim? If so, could you provide a source? Thanks."

https://nypost.com/2017/08/15/college-girl-charged-for-false-rape-claim-on-campus/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/24/woman-jailed-10-years-false-rape-claims-jemma-beale

http://www.wtvm.com/story/5503760/csu-student-arrested-for-false-rape-claim

http://www.oxygen.com/blogs/22-year-old-sentenced-to-jail-for-falsely-accusing-taxi-driver-of-rape-after-he-refused-her

https://www.dawsonnews.com/local/woman-arrested-false-rape-allegations/

It took me about 2 minutes to find the above cases. There are scores, if not hundreds of cases where people were arrested or sued for making false rape claims. Doesn't your computer have a googler?; November 20, 2017 at 9:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"There is no such thing as being "libel-proof"! Even the biggest liar in the world (and I am in no way conceding that Crystal is a liar) has rights protected by laws and cannot be defamed with unbiased claims. If you don't believe me, ask A Lawyer or Walt."

You do not have to concede that Crystal is a liar. It has been established. Her rape claim was investigated and found to be untrue. Crystal never sued anyone for raping her, or for saying she lied about being raped, calling her the false rape accuser or any other statements that were published stating that her rape claim was a fabrication. And she never will.; November 20, 2017 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

How about this one:

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-flatley-false-rape-claim-stripper-faces-jail-28461242.html

One Tyna Marie Robertson tried to extort $30m (€21m) from [Michael Flatley] the Riverdance star after saying she would go public with false allegations that he had sexually assaulted her in a Las Vegas hotel in 2002.

And:

"She was arrested at her home in an affluent suburb of Chicago on Monday, after failing to appear for a court date.

Robertson was later brought before Cook County judge Alexander White who told her she must cooperate with Mr Flatley's lawyers who are seeking documentation of her assets.

'This is your get-out-of-jail pass. If there is no cooperation . . . We are talking about civil contempt. I will put you in county jail for six months. No questions asked,' he added."

Incidentally, the lawyer who represented her in her baseless lawsuit was disbarred for his conduct.; November 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "Spin it any wayyou like, kilgo, whoever or whatever he is, is probably a figment of your imagination"....................................... You're digging yourself in deeper. Let me quote you from March 16 2016; "Your claim, about unidentified rapists at the Lacrosse party, again, comes from kilgo supposedly telling you he has an anonymous Lacrosse player friend. When kilgo posted on this blog he would brag that he knew more about the Duke Rape Hoax than anyone. I would challenge him to demonstrate his "knowledge", to put up or to shut up. He always backed down with some kind of evasive, irrelevant screed"; November 20, 2017 at 1:29 PM
kenhyderal said...: Nifong Supporter said: " Hey Doogie I agree with you about the mental health strategy used by Cheshire and Duke Lacrosse defense team against Crystal Mangum"..................................................Dr. Harr, poster Doogie Howser has cut and pasted that post from one I had previously made. Hard to tell if he did this to show he agrees with it or, like Malek Williams, is just making mischief here. Do you remember the violent reaction I got from the Duke Lacrosse Apologists when I posted words from a news story about Canada in The Sri Lankan Guardian by Shenali Waudge. Incidentally I was the one that directed readers to the author. Yeah, it's right out of the Duke Lacrosse Apologist handbook attack all and everything related to Crystal and any one who supports her but give a pass, no matter how egregious, to the Players and their supporters; November 20, 2017 at 1:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Dr. Anonymous said: "Spin it any wayyou like, kilgo, whoever or whatever he is, is probably a figment of your imagination"....................................... You're digging yourself in deeper."

You wish.

"Let me quote you from March 16 2016; "Your claim, about unidentified rapists at the Lacrosse party, again, comes from kilgo supposedly telling you he has an anonymous Lacrosse player friend. When kilgo posted on this blog he would brag that he knew more about the Duke Rape Hoax than anyone. I would challenge him to demonstrate his "knowledge", to put up or to shut up. He always backed down with some kind of evasive, irrelevant screed'"

The latest incarnation of Kilgo, which you describe as a phony Kilgo is but a figment of your imagination.; November 20, 2017 at 1:57 PM
guiowen said...: Hey, Kenny, I see you're using your old debate trick "You're digging yourself deeper" once again. Hadn't seen you use this since February 2015. If it's out of context for you, just let me know; November 20, 2017 at 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Nifong Supporter said: " Hey Doogie I agree with you about the mental health strategy used by Cheshire and Duke Lacrosse defense team against Crystal Mangum"..................................................Dr. Harr, poster Doogie Howser has cut and pasted that post from one I had previously made. Hard to tell if he did this to show he agrees with it or, like Malek Williams, is just making mischief here. Do you remember the violent reaction I got from the Duke Lacrosse Apologists when I posted words from a news story about Canada in The Sri Lankan Guardian by Shenali Waudge. Incidentally I was the one that directed readers to the author. Yeah, it's right out of the Duke Lacrosse Apologist handbook attack all and everything related to Crystal and any one who supports her but give a pass, no matter how egregious, to the Players and their supporters".

The only apologists connected with the Duke Rape Hoax are Kenny and Sidney, who try to justify Crystal's lying about being raped and Nifong's wrongful prosecution of the men whom she falsely accused. My how they get their mangy feathers ruffled when someone calls them out.; November 20, 2017 at 2:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

How do we know that kilgo all along was really you. That you might have been posting as kilgo and as yourself is not beyond the realm of possibility, considering your rather pathologic need to believe Crystal had been raped.; November 20, 2017 at 2:25 PM
kenhyderal said...: You're making yourself look awfully foolish Dr. A.; November 20, 2017 at 4:02 PM
guiowen said...: Well, at least you've changed the words.; November 20, 2017 at 4:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyhderal:

"You're making yourself look awfully foolish Dr. A."

Only to you, which has as much significance as the Devil quoting scripture.; November 20, 2017 at 5:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Or as much significance that Sidney Harr has no knowledge of any post mortem pictures of Reginald Daye'sliver, which is presuming a fact not in evidence, that Sidney is capable of knowledge.; November 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM
Anonymous said...: I remind you, you are the quintessential morally blind deaf man who claims he sees things and hears things better than anyone.; November 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Or, that is as significant as Trump thinking he is one of the greatest world leaders in history.

Your attitudes are very Trumpian. Like Trump you fabricate things about people you do not like.; November 20, 2017 at 5:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Or I will rephrase November 20, 2017 at 5:40 PM:

You are as significant as the Devil quoting scripture and thinking he is holy.; November 20, 2017 at 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Acually, Kenny is very good at finding lines in the bible. He probably spends hours looking for something that will (he thinks) make him look good.; November 20, 2017 at 6:52 PM
Anonymous said...: I will rephrase:

Kenny and Sidney are both quintessential morally deaf and blind men who believe they know the difference between right and wrong better than anyone else.; November 21, 2017 at 1:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...

"Acually, Kenny is very good at finding lines in the bible. He probably spends hours looking for something that will (he thinks) make him look good."

Presumes a fact not in evidence, that Kenny can think.; November 21, 2017 at 2:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney and Kenny too intimidated to even post anonymously.; November 21, 2017 at 5:44 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: BUT UBES IS UP TO HIS OLD LIESTOPPER CRANK TRICKS

SPIN UBES SPIN

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; November 22, 2017 at 3:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney and Kenny remain too intimidated to post under their own names so on or both assume the identity of of th entity known as Kilgo, the present incarnation of which entitye is a figment of the imagination of either Sidney or Kenny or both.

Pitiful.; November 22, 2017 at 3:39 AM
Anonymous said...: whoever or whatever this entity which posts as kilgo is devoid of any originality, just like Sidney and Kenny, which is why I believe there is a possibility of this incarnation of Kilgo being either Sidney or Kenny posting under an alias.; November 22, 2017 at 4:42 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: UBES

CAN’T YOU DO BETTER THAN THAT???

GET YOUR THUMB OUT OF YOUR BUTT

AND

SPIN UBES SPIN

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; November 22, 2017 at 12:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Whoever or whatever the entity of kilgois, said has again documented be totally devoid of the capacity for original thought.; November 22, 2017 at 1:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Can someone provide an English translation of the post at 1:07?; November 22, 2017 at 1:11 PM
kenhyderal said...: Let me help you. Dr. A. said: "Whoever or whatever the entity of kilgois, said has again documented be totally devoid of the capacity for original thought"................... Dr. A. meant: Whoever or whatever the entity of kilgo (space) is,(comma) the (article) said (person implied) has again documented (himself)(reflexive pronoun) to be devoid of the capacity for original thought. He writes a lot like Donald Trump does.; November 22, 2017 at 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...: "Let me help you. Dr. A. said: "Whoever or whatever the entity of kilgois, said has again documented be totally devoid of the capacity for original thought"................... Dr. A. meant: Whoever or whatever the entity of kilgo (space) is,(comma) the (article) said (person implied) has again documented (himself)(reflexive pronoun) to be devoid of the capacity for original thought. He writes a lot like Donald Trump does."

Says Kenhyderal, supreme practitioner of Trumpism.; November 23, 2017 at 2:40 AM
Anonymous said...: President Trump makes patently false statements.

Kenny makes patently false statements, e.g. Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party. Nifong was out for justice.

Trump attacks people he dislikes, e.g. the father of the UCLA Basketball player. Kenny attacks people he dislikes, e.g. the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players.

Trump praises people of questionable character, e.g. Roy Moore.

Kenny praises people of questionable character, e.g. Crystal Mangum, Mike Nifong, and, last but not least, Sidney Harr.

Trump says he would prefer someone like Roy Moore in the Senate rather than a Democrat.

Kenny has said he would prefer to go to a clinical incompetent like Sidney for care rather than to a competent provider.; November 23, 2017 at 4:51 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!

Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone.

Although Crystal remains unjustly imprisoned, I am thankful for the support of Representative Shelly Willingham and others who have reached out to her. I am grateful for her unyielding faith that has kept her so strong during the horrific ordeal she has endured. I am thankful for my past experiences that have provided me with the wisdom to know how to achieve justice for Crystal. Last, but not least, I am thankful for all viewers and commenters to this blog site. Your contributions are what make this blog site special.

Hope that you all are able to spend this holiday with your family and friends... enjoy the food and football.; November 23, 2017 at 7:52 AM
Doogie Howser said...: I am thankful for all of the new internet friends I have made on J4N.; November 23, 2017 at 8:21 AM
Fake Pubes said...: Glad to get to know you, Doogie.; November 23, 2017 at 8:26 AM
kenhyderal said...: A Happy Thanksgiving to the Americans. Canadians celebrated their Thanksgiving on Monday October 9th. The harvest at our latitude has to be done in September before the snow flies.; November 23, 2017 at 9:00 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A. said: "Kenny has said he would prefer to go to a clinical incompetent like Sidney for care rather than to a competent provider".................................... I did not say, instead of a competent provider, I said instead of you. Like Donald Trump you attack other people while boasting how great and wonderful you are; supposedly far more clinically competent then others. I would worry about trusting my health care to someone so dogmatic, closed minded and lacking in empathy. TLC is an important factor in health restoration. From what I know of you, I find it difficult to conceive you could provide that important factor in being a healer.; November 23, 2017 at 9:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. A:

Have you considered enrolling in a remedial English composition class at the nearest community college?; November 23, 2017 at 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Dr. A. said: "Kenny has said he would prefer to go to a clinical incompetent like Sidney for care rather than to a competent provider".................................... I did not say, instead of a competent provider, I said instead of you."

You admit I am competent and Sidney is not.

"Like Donald Trump you attack other people while boasting how great and wonderful you are; supposedly far more clinically competent then others."

No, that is your style, e.g. the way you think you know more about legal matters than eal lawyers, the way you think you know more about clinical matters than real medical epert witnesses, the way you attack the innocent, falsely accusd Lacrosse defendants, the way you attack the people who know they are innocent of the crimes with which they were charged. I am more competent in clinical matters than Sidney is, although that is like a bird saying I can fly better than any dog or cat.

I would worry about trusting my health care to someone so dogmatic, closed minded and lacking in empathy."

Pointing out that Crystal is a false accuser/victimizer, that Nifong was and is one of the most corrupt prosecutors in US legal history, that you are clinically and legally incapable of knowing what you pontificate about, pointing out that Sidney is incapable for knowing what he pontificates is telling the truth, that is not showing a lack of empathy. Would you go to Sidney if you had suffered a penetrating wound which lacerated your colon. If so, all the empathy in the universe would not be enough to save your life.

"TLC is an important factor in health restoration. From what I know of you, I find it difficult to conceive you could provide that important factor in being a healer."

Which presumes a fact not in evidence, that you know me. You may dislike me because I do not buy into your presumption that you know anything, or that I do not buy into Sidney's delusionalmegalomania, that I do not buy into Crystal's lie that she was raped at the Lacrosse party by members of the Lacrosse team(check out Crystal's statement to the police) hardly confers any knowledge upon the likes of you.; November 23, 2017 at 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Although Crystal remains unjustly imprisoned, I am thankful for the support of Representative Shelly Willingham and others who have reached out to her. I am grateful for her unyielding faith that has kept her so strong during the horrific ordeal she has endured. I am thankful for my past experiences that have provided me with the wisdom to know how to achieve justice for Crystal. Last, but not least, I am thankful for all viewers and commenters to this blog site. Your contributions are what make this blog site special."

Crystal is in her horrible situation because she lied abut being raped and she murdered Reginald Daye. And your helping her to believe she can still get away lying about being raped, and that she can get a pass for murdering Reginald Daye isn't helping her a bit.

So far as your past experiences, calling corrupt prosecutor Nifong a decent, honorable minister of justice, calling the Lacrosse players guilty, and you have done that each and every time you refer to the victimizer/accuser in the Duke Rape HOAX the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, that is hardly fighting for justice.; November 23, 2017 at 10:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous:

"Dr. A:

Have you considered enrolling in a remedial English composition class at the nearest community college?"

I will consider anyything if Sidney ever demonstrates he ever became a competent physician or if Kenny ever demonstrates he does know anything.; November 23, 2017 at 11:36 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: The Award for Best Lacrosse

Crank of the Week is

" unbekannte " ! ! !

UBES is making a comeback performance

and once again reminding us all

there is nothing as crazy as

a Duke Lacrosse Supporter ! !

Way to Go, UBES !

SPIN UBES SPIN; November 23, 2017 at 1:19 PM
Fake kenhyderal said...: The three charged and their Attorneys probably know who the rapists are. They would have realized had they revealed such information the involvement of two of them in a sexual assault and a kidnapping might possibly of been shown.; November 23, 2017 at 1:24 PM
Anonymous said...: res ipsa loquitur

res ipsa loquitur

res ipsa loquitur; November 23, 2017 at 1:27 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: Once again Ubes regales us with his gross ignorance.

Pray for the health of any patients this supposed doctor mad man gets near.

Tell us "Doctor" Ubes, how many times have you been sued for malpractice?

How many patients did YOU kill off in the operating theatre?

You act like a QUACK. Are you a QUACK like your friend the QUACK historian Robert David Johnson?; November 23, 2017 at 1:29 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: Ubes,

You ask really stoopid questions.

Maybe you should join the Liestoopids.

They can always use another crank.

While you are there, you can ask your
stoopid questions- maybe Quasi can help you.
Or are you Quasi?

Remember Ubes, it's all a vast evil conspiracy.; November 23, 2017 at 1:30 PM
Fake kenhyderal said...: Let me lay out a scenario. Kilgo comes forward and identifies to the Police the Duke Lacrosse Player who said to him that he witnessed a gang rape by some of the many non-Players, never identified, who were present. This person is then questioned. He either admits he knows the identity of these persons, denies he ever told this to Kilgo, or denies he had witnessed a rape. Both these individuals, Kilgo and the Player need to be interrogated. It's my hope that he, the Player, will come clean and knowing who the individuals are reveal their names. I remain fearful, though, that the DNA extracted from sperm found in Crystal was not preserved; November 23, 2017 at 1:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Fake kenhyderal:

"The three charged and their Attorneys probably know who the rapists are. They would have realized had they revealed such information the involvement of two of them in a sexual assault and a kidnapping might possibly of been shown."

First you have to prove a rape happened.; November 23, 2017 at 1:37 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal, posing as the entity Kilgo decompensates.; November 23, 2017 at 1:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Fake kenhyderal:

"Let me lay out a scenario. Kilgo comes forward and identifies to the Police the Duke Lacrosse Player who said to him that he witnessed a gang rape by some of the many non-Players, never identified, who were present. This person is then questoioned. He either admits he knows the identity of these persons, denies he ever told this to Kilgo, or denies he had witnessed a rape. Both these individuals, Kilgo and the Player need to be interrogated. It's my hope that he, the Player, will come clean and knowing who the individuals are reveal their names. I remain fearful, though, that the DNA extracted from sperm found in Crystal was not preserved"

Before anything it has to be proven that a rape had happened.; November 23, 2017 at 1:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Prove a rape happened.; November 23, 2017 at 2:13 PM
kenhyderal said...: The posts from Fake KH at 1:24, 1:36 and 1:55 are a cut and paste plagiarisms from posts I made on April 18, 2016. FKH, if you agree with what I said say so but stop the deception that you are the author.; November 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ the person purporting to be the Great Kilgo : Post a reiteration of your claim that a Player friend of yours, present at the party witnessed the sexual assault on Crystal; November 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"@ the person purporting to be the Great Kilgo : Post a reiteration of your claim that a Player friend of yours, present at the party witnessed the sexual assault on Crystal"

So you posing as the entity can post something about said non existent lacrosse player?

Explain why Nifong never believed that non lacrosse players raped Crystal. He went after members of the Lacrosse team. And there was zero evidence on physical exam of a rape and zero evidence connecting any Lacrosse player to the alleged crime.; November 23, 2017 at 4:12 PM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 23, 2017 at 4:31 PM
kenhyderal said...: You have to admit Dr. A. That this latest poster, purporting to be The Great Kilgo exhibits the same style as the original. It is either, in fact, him or, it's someone familiar with his posts, the ones he so laboriously deleted. I have one more question for this person; tell us why did you carefully delete all your old posts. Was it a pay-off or was it from fear?; November 23, 2017 at 4:32 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: why did you carefully delete all your old posts. Was it a pay-off or was it from fear?

I DELETED MY POSTS SO SOME LIESTOOPID TROLL WOULD COME UP WITH AN IDIOTIC CONSPRICACY THEORY.; November 23, 2017 at 4:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"You have to admit Dr. A."

I have to admit nothing to the likes of you.

"That this latest poster, purporting to be The Great Kilgo exhibits the same style as the original. It is either, in fact, him or, it's someone familiar with his posts, the ones he so laboriously deleted. I have one more question for this person; tell us why did you carefully delete all your old posts. Was it a pay-off or was it from fear?"

The answer is obvious FEAR, fear that he would might have to put up or shut up.; November 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"That this latest poster, purporting to be The Great Kilgo exhibits the same style as the original. It is either, in fact, him or, it's someone familiar with his posts,"

You meet all those requirements.; November 23, 2017 at 5:25 PM
kenhyderal said...: Certainly not the former because The Great Kilgo, like you, was on this blog prior to my arrival. Dr. Harr is the one person who could determine this, incontrovertibly, to the satisfaction of all. Do you deny, however, that the style of posts by this person is identical to those of the original Great Kilgo, who by the way did not post anonymously but under a registered google account.; November 23, 2017 at 8:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Krnhyderal:

"Certainly not the former because The Great Kilgo, like you, was on this blog prior to my arrival."

So? That does not change the fact that YOU are the only one here who is so familiar with kilgo's style.

Dr. Harr is the one person who could determine this, incontrovertibly, to the satisfaction of all."

Sidney is incapable of determining anything "incontrovertibly", as he has so often demonstrated.

"Do you deny, however, that the style of posts by this person is identical to those of the original Great Kilgo,"

Did you not read what I posted? You talk about someone thoroughly familiar with kilgo's style. YOU are such a person, which raises the question, are you the individual now posting as kilgo?

"who by the way did not post anonymously but under a registered google account."

Nevertheless he did vanish along with all his posts, indicating he was afraid of having to either put up or shut up. He could not do the former so he chose the latter. And now it is a possibility you are now posing as kilgo so you can repeat kilgo's claim of unidentified non lacrosse party attendees.

Even if there were, it would have been irrelevant as there was zero evidence Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she gad been raped.; November 24, 2017 at 2:37 AM
Anonymous said...: One more for Kenhyderal:

I once read a post on this blog, the Lacrosse player defendants could never prove themselves innocent in a court of law.

Sidney has posted many times that no one has ever proved Crystal lied about being .

Kenny has posted that there is no comprehensive list of people who attended the party on March 13/14, 2006.

All are iterations of disregard for the principle, the one who asserts must prove. In a court of law, when a crime is alleged, the prosecution has the obligation to prove the accused guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, which breaks down to proving a crime had actually happened and that the accused were the perpetrators.

All these iterations are admissions on the part of Kenny and Sidney and there miniscule numbers of supporters that they can not make a case that Crystal had been raped.; November 24, 2017 at 3:50 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: YOU ‘RE RIGHT KENHYDERAL

I DELETED MY POSTS AFTER THE LIESTOOPID CRANKS PAID ME OFF

I CAME BACK BECAUSE I MISS MY BEST BUD UBES; November 24, 2017 at 5:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny again expresses his frustration.; November 24, 2017 at 7:00 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Although Crystal remains unjustly imprisoned, I am thankful for the support of Representative Shelly Willingham and others who have reached out to her. I am grateful for her unyielding faith that has kept her so strong during the horrific ordeal she has endured. I am thankful for my past experiences that have provided me with the wisdom to know how to achieve justice for Crystal. Last, but not least, I am thankful for all viewers and commenters to this blog site. Your contributions are what make this blog site special."

Crystal is in her horrible situation because she lied abut being raped and she murdered Reginald Daye. And your helping her to believe she can still get away lying about being raped, and that she can get a pass for murdering Reginald Daye isn't helping her a bit.

So far as your past experiences, calling corrupt prosecutor Nifong a decent, honorable minister of justice, calling the Lacrosse players guilty, and you have done that each and every time you refer to the victimizer/accuser in the Duke Rape HOAX the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, that is hardly fighting for justice.

November 23, 2017 at 10:27 AM

Anony, you probably believe Alabama senate-candidate Roy Moore and Michigan Representative John Conyer who both deny inappropriate sexual harassment and abuse alleged by multiple female accusers. Mangum has always maintained that she was sexually abused at the Duke Lacrosse party... a topic about which she does not like to discuss. Mangum, like recent sexual abuse accusers, had nothing to gain by making such allegations if they were false.

As far as the Duke Lacrosse defendants, I have never made comments condemning them as guilty of sexual abuse. Unlike the Mangum murder case, I have no access to any of the discovery in the Duke Lacrosse case.; November 24, 2017 at 7:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anony, you probably believe Alabama senate-candidate Roy Moore and Michigan Representative John Conyer who both deny inappropriate sexual harassment and abuse alleged by multiple female accusers."

You presume a fact not in evidence. Not uncommon for you.

Mangum has always maintained that she was sexually abused at the Duke Lacrosse party... a topic about which she does not like to discuss."

I say again, that means only that Mangum continues to lie about being raped. There is zero evidence Crystal ever told the truth. That you might claim that the case file with all the evidence was sealed by AG Cooper. It has been explained to you that AG Cooper had no authority to seal the case file, and that the only part of Crystal's record which was sealed was her mental health history.

"Mangum, like recent sexual abuse accusers, had nothing to gain by making such allegations if they were false."

Yes she did. She was facing involuntary commitment for detox, which would have gotten social services involved, which would have meant that Social Services would have learned Crystal was leaving her children at home to keep appointments with men set up by an escort agency which means, in spite of what your wacko-lyte Kenny claiss, she was a sex worker.

And I guess you never heard of Tyna Marie Robertson, the woman who falsely accused Michael Flatley of rape, which charges were dropped because of lack of evidence, and then she threatened Mr. Flatley she would go public with her allegations if he did not pay her an exorbitant amount of money.

I guess you never heard of the Tawana Brawley hoax.

I guess you never heard of this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/

I guess you never heard of this:http://www.businessinsider.com/florida-apologizes-to-4-black-men-falsely-accused-of-rape-in-1949-2017-4

I guess you never heard of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra_University_rape_case

I guess you never heard of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

And I guess you have never heard of the Scottsboro boys.

"As far as the Duke Lacrosse defendants, I have never made comments condemning them as guilty of sexual abuse. Unlike the Mangum murder case, I have no access to any of the discovery in the Duke Lacrosse case."

Wrong, and you are too delusional to realize that. Each and every time you have referred to Crystal as the "victim/accuser" in the "Duke Rape Case" you proclaim the accused guilty, which proclamation has no legal weight. And you have gone on record as believing the Lacrosse players lied about what happened at the party.

And you, like your wacko-lyte Kenny have provided zero evidence that Crystal was ever raped.; November 24, 2017 at 8:17 AM
kenhyderal said...: Duke Lacrosse Apologists like Dr. A. are so disingenuous. He knows full well that I do not post anonymously. Like all Duke Lacrosse Apologists he will never concede anything. He will dispute all and anything. Even things he knows to be true. Like me he suspects Kilgo may be back but what he fears is that Kilgo may once more confirm what he was told by his friend an eye-witness to the crime. It's something he stated never happened and that I manufactured this. It's like his persistent claim that there was no esophageal intubation of Reginald Daye; something he eventually had to concede. It's like his denial that Daye was an alcoholic something he will also one day eventually have to "eat crow" over.; November 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Duke Lacrosse Apologists like Dr. A. are so disingenuous. He knows full well that I do not post anonymously. Like all Duke Lacrosse Apologists he will never concede anything. He will dispute all and anything."

Kenny is p---ed because people do not buy into the lies he promulgates like, Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party and Sidney is a distinguished former physician, and Nifong was fighting for justice for Crystal. He continues to dodge the fact that there is zero evidence that Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she had been raped. What Kenny presents as evidence is wishful thinking, wishful thinking that Crystal had been raped. And I ask again, what kind of gratification does Kenny get from believing a woman he supposedly likes and respects had been brutally gang raped.

"Even things he knows to be true."

Funny kind of statement from Kenny since he denies the obvious truths about the Duke Rape Hoax.

"Like me he suspects Kilgo may be back but what he fears is that Kilgo may once more confirm what he was told by his friend an eye-witness to the crime."

Kilgo's alleged eyewitness friend does not exist. If he does exist he would have emerged by now. If kilgo repeats that allegation it only means kilgo again lies.

"It's something he stated never happened and that I manufactured this."

No, I stated you have provided two different accounts of when Kilgo made this claim, one that he posted it on J4N, one that he emailed the information to you. You then said that kilgo deleted all his posts. Following that you said you lost the email. What it amounts to is you can not provide any documentation that Kilgo ever said this to you, which leads me to believe you fabricated the whole story to support your guilt presuming racism.

"It's like his persistent claim that there was no esophageal intubation of Reginald Daye; something he eventually had to concede."

You just conceded that I did not persist in claiming there was no esophageal intubation. You persist that it amounted to malpractice even though you can not distinguish between malpractice and malcolm in the middle.

"It's like his denial that Daye was an alcoholic"

You have never documented he was an alcoholic and I have provided statements from witnesses that he was not a heavy drinker. Your only documentation of Reginald Daye's alcoholism comes from Crystal after she was in custody and facing a murder 1 charge, which was a self serving allegation to avoid a murder 1 rap.

"something he will also one day eventually have to "eat crow" over."

Don't hold your breath. You will rupture and collapse both lungs. Then you would probably die because you would go to incompetent Sidney for treatment. That prediction is like Sidney's years long history of saying, Crystal's release is imminent.; November 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny claims: He knows full well that I do not post anonymously.

How does he know this? We have no proof that you do not use sock puppets (e.g., Kilgo, Tin Foil or anonymous posters) to offer support for your posts. Indeed, we have no proof that you are not Sidney's sock puppet.

Although, as the sponsor of the blog, I believe Sidney has access to IP addresses for posters, he has never made this information available. As a result, we have no proof to support your assertion. Your assertion alone is insufficient.

Moreover, Sidney has never confirmed your self-proclaimed friendship with Crystal--he could easily ask Crystal to confirm that she has a close personal friend, a Canadian named Kenneth D. Edwards, whom she met while in the Navy, but he has repeatedly failed to do so. and has totally ignored all such requests. Because Sidney also lacks credibility, we would have to consider what form the proof of your identity must take.; November 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A. said: " No, I stated you have provided two different accounts of when Kilgo made this claim, one that he posted it on J4N, one that he emailed the information to you. You then said that kilgo deleted all his posts. Following that you said you lost the email. What it amounts to is you can not provide any documentation that Kilgo ever said this to you, which leads me to believe you fabricated the whole story to support your guilt presuming racism.".............. Kilgo both made this claim in J4N posts and also in an e-mail to me. You yourself know Kilgo deleted all his posts. What you remember he said is at odds with what I remember. The e-mail address I had for Kilgo now comes back as undeliverable so I assume he has also changed his e-mail address. I had no reason at the time to save the e-mail exchanges I had with him because as at the time he was still active on J4N.; November 24, 2017 at 3:24 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A. Said: "Because Sidney also lacks credibility, we would have to consider what form the proof of your identity must take"..................This from someone who posts anonymously. Tell us your name and while you are at it answer the question the person purporting to be The Great Kilgo asked you at 1:29 PM 11-23-17; November 24, 2017 at 3:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal;

"Dr. A. said: " No, I stated you have provided two different accounts of when Kilgo made this claim, one that he posted it on J4N, one that he emailed the information to you. You then said that kilgo deleted all his posts. Following that you said you lost the email. What it amounts to is you can not provide any documentation that Kilgo ever said this to you, which leads me to believe you fabricated the whole story to support your guilt presuming racism.".............. Kilgo both made this claim in J4N posts and also in an e-mail to me."

Now you are coming up with a 3rd version.

"You yourself know Kilgo deleted all his posts."

What I know is that you say Kilgo deleted his posts.

"What you remember he said is at odds with what I remember."

Which version are you remembering?

"The e-mail address I had for Kilgo now comes back as undeliverable so I assume he has also changed his e-mail address. I had no reason at the time to save the e-mail exchanges I had with him because as at the time he was still active on J4N."

Which is more documentation that you can not document Kilgo ever told you about any anonymous lacrosse player who witnessed Crystal being raped.; November 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny demands. This from someone who posts anonymously. Tell us your name and while you are at it answer the question the person purporting to be The Great Kilgo asked you at 1:29 PM 11-23-17.

My name is George Adams. Are you satisfied?

You are completely mistaken about the question. The person purporting to be The Great Kilgo did not ask me a question on 11/23. I did not post on that day prior to that question. I have never met KC Johnson.; November 24, 2017 at 4:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhydral:

"Dr. A. Said: "Because Sidney also lacks credibility, we would have to consider what form the proof of your identity must take"..................This from someone who posts anonymously. Tell us your name and while you are at it answer the question the person purporting to be The Great Kilgo asked you at 1:29 PM 11-23-17 "

The question was how many times have I been sued for malpractice.

The ansser is equivalent to the number of times you have ever provided evidence that Crystal had been raped. Zero.; November 24, 2017 at 4:54 PM
Anonymous said...: I meant answer. Sorry for the typo.; November 24, 2017 at 4:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, I bet you are really confused about Dr. A right now.; November 24, 2017 at 4:58 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Kenny, I bet you are really confused about Dr. A right now".......... Nope, and neither is anyone else who reads what he writes. They can see right through this guy. As Duke Lacrosse Apologists, though, they can't possible admit how "out to lunch" this defender of the Duke Lacrosse Players is most of the time. Duke Lacrosse Apologists always stick with their formulaic and well rehearsed strategy of concede nothing, question all and attack everything. Even if it has to be done sentence by sentence and by pronouncing any contained assertion a lie like Dr. A. does, even to the point of absurdity.; November 24, 2017 at 9:19 PM
guiowen said...: Kennyboy always sticks with his formulaic and well-rehearsed strategy of concede nothing, question all and attack everything.; November 24, 2017 at 11:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Anonymous said: "Kenny, I bet you are really confused about Dr. A right now".......... Nope, and neither is anyone else who reads what he writes. They can see right through this guy. As Duke Lacrosse Apologists, though, they can't possible admit how "out to lunch" this defender of the Duke Lacrosse Players is most of the time. Duke Lacrosse Apologists always stick with their formulaic and well rehearsed strategy of concede nothing, question all and attack everything. Even if it has to be done sentence by sentence and by pronouncing any contained assertion a lie like Dr. A. does, even to the point of absurdity."

Provide evidence that anyone on th Lacrosse team ever perpetratrd or participated in a rape or in a sexual assault on Crystal.; November 25, 2017 at 2:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, for all your ranting and raving about deny deny deny, you have never presented any factual evidence to demonstrate that what you claim the Duke Lacrosse advocates deny ever happened.

It gets back to the principle of the one who asserts must prove. You have never proven anything. Ergo, you have never proven anything to be denied.

Your ranting and raving is but an admission that 1) you can not prove anything 2)you are a guilt presuming racist an 3) you get some kind of gratification in believing that this woman whom you say you like and respect had been brutally gang raped.; November 25, 2017 at 3:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

PROVE PROVE PROVE; November 25, 2017 at 5:38 AM
George Adams said...: Kenny Hyderal:

Now that I have identified myself as George Adams, the author of the comment at 11/24 12:33 PM, (I am not Dr. Anoymous; I missed that you incorrectly attributed my comment to Dr. A), please answer the question I raised in that comment:

How do we know that you do not use sock puppets when posting?

In order to end the confusion, I have used my name in posting this comment. I urge all Anonymous posters to do the same.; November 25, 2017 at 6:00 AM
Fake George Adams said...: Hello,

I think all posters should follow the excellent suggestion by George Adams.

Goodbye; November 25, 2017 at 6:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Fake Fake George Adams:

HA HA HA; November 25, 2017 at 8:23 AM
Jorge Adams said...: I stand with George Adams.; November 25, 2017 at 8:39 AM
Giorgio Adams said...: Count me in.; November 25, 2017 at 9:06 AM
Fake kenhyderal said...: Hey George,

Who's your daddy?; November 25, 2017 at 9:26 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A said: "How do we know that you do not use sock puppets when posting?
In order to end the confusion, I have used my name in posting this comment. I urge all Anonymous posters to do the same"...................... And the way to begin doing this is by registering with google without specifying you wish to post anonymously. Lets see if Google will allow multiple user names with fake this fake that. Again I say that Dr.A. knows full well that myself, Nifong Supporter, Walt in Durham etc. only post under our own accounts. As a Duke Lacrosse Apologist, though, he compulsively has to challenge everything. Dishonest people usually don't trust anyone.; November 25, 2017 at 9:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"'Dr. A said: "How do we know that you do not use sock puppets when posting?
In order to end the confusion, I have used my name in posting this comment. I urge all Anonymous posters to do the same"......................'"

Wasn't me, Kenny.

"And the way to begin doing this is by registering with google without specifying you wish to post anonymously. Lets see if Google will allow multiple user names with fake this fake that. Again I say that Dr.A. knows full well that myself, Nifong Supporter, Walt in Durham etc. only post under our own accounts. As a Duke Lacrosse Apologist, though, he compulsively has to challenge everything."

Kenny take this challenge; PROVE PROVE PROVE.

Dishonest people usually don't trust anyone.

As people like you and Sidney abundantly demonstrate.; November 25, 2017 at 10:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny you are seriously confused about Dr. A.; November 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM
Fake George Adams said...: Where are you George?; November 25, 2017 at 11:19 AM
Doogie Howser said...: What have I missed today?; November 25, 2017 at 11:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

My real name is Denton DeBkey Dietrich.

Dr. Anonymous; November 25, 2017 at 11:45 AM
Fake Pubes said...: Glad to have you back Doogie. George Adams has created new posting rules; November 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: I GET IT UBES

THAT WAS AN ATTEMPT AT HUMOR

SPIN UBES SPIN

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK; November 25, 2017 at 1:15 PM
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George Adams said...: Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..; November 25, 2017 at 1:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr:

Would that be considered child endangerment if a parent who duke had issues with took their child (or was taken) to duke for medical services in light of this current case?

Like Ms Mangum now, would it be considered child endangerment if one of her children were taken to duke for medical services - say - if they cut themselves with a knife chopping an onion or something - since they may become dukes victim if duke wanted to try to pin child abuse or murder charges on Ms. Mangum or her children's caretakers as well?; November 25, 2017 at 3:22 PM
Anonymous said...: my evil duke troll shadow is BACK!

hey

repeat this: blah

....

blah

...

blah

,,,; November 25, 2017 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: g ... i've already told you to stop copy and pasting posts that aren't even yours and then sitting there and trolling what you just posted.

seriously

get over yourself

troll doesn't even describe what you do any more g ... since you are seriously evil

DO NOT TROLL ME IN ANY WAY AT ALL AGAIN

thanks; November 25, 2017 at 3:26 PM
kenhyderal said...: Get serious all you sophomoric posters. This is no place to come to make mischief. What is your purpose here? Mockery? Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker-Proverbs 17:5 Crystal is a poor single Mother of three who is imprisoned.; November 25, 2017 at 3:49 PM
Anonymous said...: ...for murder; November 25, 2017 at 3:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Get serious all you sophomoric posters. This is no place to come to make mischief. What is your purpose here? Mockery?"

Only a mockery of you and Sidney, two incompetents who think they know everything.

"Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker-Proverbs 17:5"

One of the commandments: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Here is another: Thou shalt not lie.

"Crystal is a poor single Mother of three who is imprisoned."

Crystal is a false accuser/victimizer and a murderess with a criminal history which began before she became infamous for falsely accusing innocent men of raping her.; November 25, 2017 at 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny is decompensating again.; November 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous at

November 25, 2017 at 3:26 PM is trying to stone g to death by hurling popcorn at him from a range of 100 yards.; November 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, prove Crystal told the truth.; November 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM
guiowen said...: Oh, look: it's Crybully Tinfoil!; November 25, 2017 at 5:19 PM
guiowen said...: Crybully Cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh:
He's old enough to know better.
So Crybully cry!; November 25, 2017 at 5:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

With regard to your comment on mockery:

It is superfluous for anyone on this blog to mock you and Sidney.

You and Sidney each make a mockery of yourselves without any effort on the part of anyone else.; November 26, 2017 at 5:46 AM
Anonymous said...: fy g. i'm telling you and your twin evil duke troll mini g for the last time to stop trolling me and committing hate crimes.; November 26, 2017 at 8:47 AM
guiowen said...: But Tinfoil, you said some months ago that you were telling me so for the last time! Can't you keep a promise?; November 26, 2017 at 9:05 AM
guiowen said...: Crybully Cry!
You make Ken Edwards sigh:
He's old enough to know better.
So Crybully cry!; November 26, 2017 at 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...: What the frack is going on here? I leave for a little while and come back hoping to be elucidated by a nice shlog, but all I find are these evil, mean, hate-filled, nonsensical, crazy making comments from a bunch of insane hate-crime blog mongers.

blah

blah

blah; November 28, 2017 at 11:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Nobody would want to have sex with Crystal Mangum much less go to all the trouble of raping her.; November 28, 2017 at 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny nd Sidney manifesting frustration.; November 28, 2017 at 2:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Where is George Adams?; November 28, 2017 at 4:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

Is everything still on track for Crystal to be released before the end of the year?; November 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid:

Is everything still on track for Crystal to be released before the end of the year?

November 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM

Anony, I wish I could answer in the affirmative, but things are not working out as I had planned. Several really big disappointments regarding individuals in whom I believed had courage and devotion for justice. But, that doesn't mean it is not possible. I will continue to work for a release by Christmas, but am preparing for battle beyond New Years.; November 29, 2017 at 7:48 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
What the frack is going on here? I leave for a little while and come back hoping to be elucidated by a nice shlog, but all I find are these evil, mean, hate-filled, nonsensical, crazy making comments from a bunch of insane hate-crime blog mongers.

blah

blah

blah

November 28, 2017 at 11:35 AM

I am almost finished with my latest sharlog... a two-parter. I should complete it today. Just need to tie up a few loose ends. It should be available on this blog site no later than Saturday... probably sooner.; November 29, 2017 at 7:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid:

Is everything still on track for Crystal to be released before the end of the year?

November 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM

Anony, I wish I could answer in the affirmative, but things are not working out as I had planned. Several really big disappointments regarding individuals in whom I believed had courage and devotion for justice. But, that doesn't mean it is not possible. I will continue to work for a release by Christmas, but am preparing for battle beyond New Years."

Your condemnation of the innocent falsely accused Lacrosse players, your advocacy for corrupt Nifong, your advocacy for a murderess/false accuseer/victimizer Crystal ak show you have no concept of what justice is.; November 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr:

Would that be considered child endangerment if a parent who duke had issues with took their child (or was taken) to duke for medical services in light of this current case?

Like Ms Mangum now, would it be considered child endangerment if one of her children were taken to duke for medical services - say - if they cut themselves with a knife chopping an onion or something - since they may become dukes victim if duke wanted to try to pin child abuse or murder charges on Ms. Mangum or her children's caretakers as well?

November 25, 2017 at 3:22 PM

I don't believe it would be child endangering if Crystal took her children to a Duke University Hospital or clinic for treatment... especially something minor that could be treated in the emergency department. I do not think that the medical staff at Duke would attempt to conjure up any criminality against Crystal either... but that is possible.

I have laid out a reasonable scenario for Reginald Daye's demise being a hospital homicide... so such intrigue against Crystal is always a possibility.

Myself, I would never voluntarily go to a Duke University Hospital facility... and if I somehow managed to end up there in an emergency, I would try to transfer to receive care elsewhere as soon as possible. Keep in mind that my relationship with Duke University is unique and different than almost everyone else.

Hope I answered your question.; November 29, 2017 at 8:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What the frack is going on here? I leave for a little while and come back hoping to be elucidated by a nice shlog, but all I find are these evil, mean, hate-filled, nonsensical, crazy making comments from a bunch of insane hate-crime blog mongers.

blah

blah

blah

November 28, 2017 at 11:35 AM

I am almost finished with my latest sharlog... a two-parter. I should complete it today. Just need to tie up a few loose ends. It should be available on this blog site no later than Saturday... probably sooner."

You are going to publish another screed on nothing.; November 29, 2017 at 8:00 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid:

Is everything still on track for Crystal to be released before the end of the year?

November 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM

Anony, I wish I could answer in the affirmative, but things are not working out as I had planned. Several really big disappointments regarding individuals in whom I believed had courage and devotion for justice. But, that doesn't mean it is not possible. I will continue to work for a release by Christmas, but am preparing for battle beyond New Years."

Your condemnation of the innocent falsely accused Lacrosse players, your advocacy for corrupt Nifong, your advocacy for a murderess/false accuseer/victimizer Crystal ak show you have no concept of what justice is.

November 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM

Justice is not a prosecution based on a fraudulent autopsy report in which the manner of death is accidental rather than homicidal. Justice is not perjured testimony by multiple prosecution witnesses. Justice is not turncoat defense attorneys selling out their client. Justice is not a stacked jury and a judge presiding over a biased trial.; November 29, 2017 at 8:03 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous George Adams said...
Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..

November 25, 2017 at 1:56 PM

Hey, George.

Thanks for your insightful comment. I have been visiting Crystal for most of the time that she's been incarcerated. I have come to know her quite well. She is a very nice person and very much unlike the devious and diabolical character the media has portrayed her to be.; November 29, 2017 at 8:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr:

Would that be considered child endangerment if a parent who duke had issues with took their child (or was taken) to duke for medical services in light of this current case?

Like Ms Mangum now, would it be considered child endangerment if one of her children were taken to duke for medical services - say - if they cut themselves with a knife chopping an onion or something - since they may become dukes victim if duke wanted to try to pin child abuse or murder charges on Ms. Mangum or her children's caretakers as well?

November 25, 2017 at 3:22 PM

I don't believe it would be child endangering if Crystal took her children to a Duke University Hospital or clinic for treatment... especially something minor that could be treated in the emergency department. I do not think that the medical staff at Duke would attempt to conjure up any criminality against Crystal either... but that is possible.

I have laid out a reasonable scenario for Reginald Daye's demise being a hospital homicide... so such intrigue against Crystal is always a possibility."

No you haven't. You are incapable of understanding the clinical or legal ramifications of the situation.

"Myself, I would never voluntarily go to a Duke University Hospital facility... and if I somehow managed to end up there in an emergency, I would try to transfer to receive care elsewhere as soon as possible. Keep in mind that my relationship with Duke University is unique and different than almost everyone else."

Because you have made it so via your multiple frivolous, non meritorious lawsuits against Duke. You are ls probably resentful because an institution like Duke would never give you credentials to practice there. No hospital would have ever given you credentials considering your lack of training and lack of experience.

"Hope I answered your question."

You have never answered any questions. Like your wacko-lyte Kenny you try to bullshit your way around facts you do not like.; November 29, 2017 at 10:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid:

Is everything still on track for Crystal to be released before the end of the year?

November 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM

Anony, I wish I could answer in the affirmative, but things are not working out as I had planned. Several really big disappointments regarding individuals in whom I believed had courage and devotion for justice. But, that doesn't mean it is not possible. I will continue to work for a release by Christmas, but am preparing for battle beyond New Years."

Your condemnation of the innocent falsely accused Lacrosse players, your advocacy for corrupt Nifong, your advocacy for a murderess/false accuseer/victimizer Crystal ak show you have no concept of what justice is.

November 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM

Justice is not a prosecution based on a fraudulent autopsy report in which the manner of death is accidental rather than homicidal. Justice is not perjured testimony by multiple prosecution witnesses. Justice is not turncoat defense attorneys selling out their client. Justice is not a stacked jury and a judge presiding over a biased trial."

None f those things happened in Ceystal's trial.Ir takes more thanthe opinion of a clinical and legalm incompetent to esrblish that these events.

This is the opinion of the Nifong Supporter who backs and approves Nifong's willful wrongful prosecution of innocent men for a crime which never happened, a prosecution which did involve witness intimidation, attempted subornation of perjured testimony, concealment of exculpatory evidence, and manufacturing of evidence.; November 29, 2017 at 10:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous George Adams said...
Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..

November 25, 2017 at 1:56 PM

Hey, George.

Thanks for your insightful comment. I have been visiting Crystal for most of the time that she's been incarcerated. I have come to know her quite well. She is a very nice person and very much unlike the devious and diabolical character the media has portrayed her to be."

Nice people do not steal cabs, drive under the influence, falsely accuse innocent men of a crime which never happened, commit arson(she was not cleared of that charge-the charge was dismissed after a mistrial), does not murder her boyfriend.

You call Shan Carer a nice person after he chased after he chased and shot Tyrone Baker when Tyrone Baker was fleeing and killed an innocent 8 year old boy in the process; November 29, 2017 at 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous George Adams said...
Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..

November 25, 2017 at 1:56 PM

Hey, George.

Thanks for your insightful comment. I have been visiting Crystal for most of the time that she's been incarcerated. I have come to know her quite well. She is a very nice person and very much unlike the devious and diabolical character the media has portrayed her to be."

Nice people do not steal cabs, do not speed in the stolen cab while drunk, do not try to run down police officers, do not falsely accuse innocent men of a crime which did not happen, do not commit arson(she was not cleared of that charge, she got a pass when the charge was dismissed after a mistrial), do not murder.; November 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
kenhyderal said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 29, 2017 at 1:30 PM
kenhyderal said...: Nifong Supporter Said: "Hey, George. Thanks for your insightful comment"........... I hate to disillusion you Dr. Harr but that is not George Adams speaking. It's a cut and past of one of my old posts. In fact I don't even believe this is the same person who respond to my suggestion to Dr. Anonymous that he reveal his name, if he persists in making disparaging remarks about supporters of Crystal, including you. I know you believe posters have the right to remain anonymous on your blog but I don't think posters should be allowed to tag their anonymous posts with various phoney names whereby it appears a single poster is in fact multiple posters. Nor do I think you should allow plagiarized posts to appear under such tags. It's obvious these are people here for mischief and mockery.; November 29, 2017 at 1:31 PM
guiowen said...: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery!; November 29, 2017 at 2:14 PM
kenhyderal said...: "Borrowed thoughts, like borrowed money, only show the poverty of the borrower"- Lady Marguerite Blessington; November 29, 2017 at 3:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

he only people misleading other people are you and Sidney, and you only mislead yourselves.; November 29, 2017 at 4:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"'Borrowed thoughts, like borrowed money, only show the poverty of the borrower'- Lady Marguerite Blessington"

Kenny,who borrows from Sidney shows how utterly intellectually poverty stricken he is. I will not say he borrows Sidney's thoughts. That presumes a fact clearly not in evidence, that Sidney is capable of thinking.; November 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Crystal should have been hanged,not just for murder but also for falsely accusing innocent white men of rape.No way they would ever touch her.; November 29, 2017 at 5:22 PM
A Lawyer said...: No way they would ever touch her.

To Annon. at 5:22:
The evidence is overwhelming that Mangum was not raped, but plenty of men apparently paid her escort service good money to touch her. And the racist tinge to your comment is unhelpful and unwelcome.; November 30, 2017 at 8:05 AM
guiowen said...: To A Lawyer:
I agree with you 100%.; November 30, 2017 at 10:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Crime stats do in fact show there are almost no cases of white men raping black women and the lacrosse players found Crystal repulsive.; November 30, 2017 at 11:51 AM
George Adams said...: Dr. Harr,

I’m glad to hear that you appreciated my comment. I will continue to share my original ideas with the group.; December 1, 2017 at 7:51 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Dr. Anonymous: You stated that it was not you in the exchange between an Anonymous Poster and a poster who readers believed to be you and the person purporting to be The Great Kilgo, on Nov. 23. There he asked have ever been sued. I then asked you, as a person who constantly rails against Dr. Harr to give your real name so we can verify the claim you had never been sued. The answer from a person purporting to be you was my name is George Adams. It might be a good idea if you, like I have, protest about those who adopt different identities and post dishonestly. Like the previous post where he claims to be the author of one of my posts; something that's easily verifiable; December 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM
Inconnu said...: Alors,Kenhyderal,
Est-ce que tu veux cette information que j'ai pour toi?; December 1, 2017 at 10:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"@ Dr. Anonymous: You stated that it was not you in the exchange between an Anonymous Poster and a poster who readers believed to be you and the person purporting to be The Great Kilgo, on Nov. 23. There he asked have ever been sued. I then asked you, as a person who constantly rails against Dr. Harr to give your real name so we can verify the claim you had never been sued. The answer from a person purporting to be you was my name is George Adams. It might be a good idea if you, like I have, protest about those who adopt different identities and post dishonestly. Like the previous post where he claims to be the author of one of my posts; something that's easily verifiable"

Go stew.

If Kilgo asserts I have been sued, let him find out and then prove it. Meanwhile, maybe kilgo could prove he does have an anonymous lacrosse player friend who witnessed a number of non lacrosse party attendees rape Crystal. You have no proof that he ever did. Why you accept his story, according to you, is that it meshes with what Crystal told you. and you have zero proof that Crystal ever told you the truth. There is abundant proof she did not.; December 2, 2017 at 2:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Whether or notyou or kilgo elieve me is irrelevant.

Kilgo,if it exists, is a phony.

You have more than adequately demonstrated you do not know what is or is not malpractice. The ability to copy and paste from on line medical papers does not confer that ability on you.

So far as whether or not Crystal was raped, PROVE1 PROVE! PROVE!; December 2, 2017 at 5:50 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. A said: "you have zero proof that Crystal ever told you the truth". ..... Because Crystal is a person I trust I have no need of proof. You have zero proof certain things you Parents told you were true. Hearing things from those you trust requires no proof of veracity. Kilgo's second-hand account coincides with what Crystal told me happened your third-hand account does not. Or is your son a Duke Lacrosse Player?; December 2, 2017 at 8:31 AM
kenhyderal said...: Inconnu said: "Alors,Kenhyderal, Est-ce que tu veux cette information que j'ai pour toi?"...................Va te faire *outre; December 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM
Inconnu said...: Sidney,
Have you seen the insulting post from Kenhyderal? I thought you were going to ban such posts. Isn't that (ahem) the "Kenyderal rule"?; December 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Dr. A said: "you have zero proof that Crystal ever told you the truth". ..... Because Crystal is a person I trust I have no need of proof. You have zero proof certain things you Parents told you were true. Hearing things from those you trust requires no proof of veracity. Kilgo's second-hand account coincides with what Crystal told me happened your third-hand account does not. Or is your son a Duke Lacrosse Player?"

Kenny acknowledges he has zero proof that Crystal was ever raped, that Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she had been raped and that he has zero evidence that kilgo ever told the truth when kilgo, who ever or what ever kilgo is, ever knew any one on the Lacrosse team.
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Which confirms Kenny is nothing but a guilt presuming racist.

Kenny, look at Reginald Daye, the last person who thought he could trust Crystal. You really do have a death wish.; December 2, 2017 at 10:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Kilgo's second-hand account coincides with what Crystal told me happened your third-hand account does not. Or is your son a Duke Lacrosse Player?"

The first hand accounts of the Lacrosse players, that nothing happened, David Evans first hand account that the allegations of rape were "fantastic lioes", all of which are supported by the actual evidence, tells everyone but you and Sidney and William Cohan what really happened.

And you have offered zero evidence that Kilgo ever told you anything, which suggests rather strongly you fabricated the whole story. You do believe a proven liar which says less than zero about your credibility.; December 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhydera:

"...is your son a Duke Lacrosse Player?"

Thank you for the compliment.; December 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

You scream, and I quote, "deny deny deny".

You have also admitted you have no first hand knowledge of any crime the Lacrosse players or their defenders need to deny.; December 2, 2017 at 11:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

For that matter, you have any second hand, third hand or fourth hand knowledge of any crime of which the lacrosse players or their admirers would be in denial.; December 2, 2017 at 12:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,
Just in case you don't speak French, Mr. Kenhyderal's note
"va te faire *outre"
translates as
"go and have someone *uck you."

Is there any chance that you will apply the "Kenhyderal rule" here? But perhaps that rule doesn't apply to Kenhyderal.; December 2, 2017 at 1:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

With regard to your attitude, that you do not need evidence or proof, you are the moral equivalent of a lynch mob, in addition to being the moral equivalent of a skin head nazi.; December 2, 2017 at 2:39 PM
George Adams said...: Dr. Harr,

Have you confirmed that Crystal will be released this year?; December 2, 2017 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Remember the Scottsboro boys? When the white women told some men, these black men raped us, what did the men reply?

Did they say something like this? We do not need evidence of any crime. We believe those women over the men who say they were innocent.; December 2, 2017 at 3:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny:

Did the men say something like this: because we trust the women, we do not need evidence to convince us they were raped.; December 2, 2017 at 3:55 PM
George Adams said...: kenhyderal,

Are you working with Dr. Harr to ensure that Crystal is released this year?; December 2, 2017 at 4:08 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Is there any chance that you will apply the "Kenhyderal rule" here? But perhaps that rule doesn't apply to Kenhyderal"............................ To Dr. Harr and the blog readers I apologize for my crude response to the provocations by this mischief maker. I withdraw that remark and instead substitute "get lost"; December 2, 2017 at 8:43 PM
George Adams said...: Apology accepted kenhyderal.; December 2, 2017 at 9:19 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "If Kilgo asserts I have been sued, let him find out and then prove it".............................................. The person purporting to be The Great Kilgo didn't assert you had been sued he asked the question. Someone Purporting to be you responded with zero. You, once again if it was you, are on record denying that it was in fact you who said that. You can forgive us for being skeptical if you wont tell us what your name is. Why is this important? It is because you spend so much time anonymously insulting others, especially Dr. Harr. You so frequently insult him that it calls into question whether you have sufficient credentials to harshly judge others. What is it you fear in not posting anonymously; litigation, harassment or embarrassment? What have you got to hide. Matthew 7:3; December 2, 2017 at 9:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

"Dr. Anonymous said: "If Kilgo asserts I have been sued, let him find out and then prove it".............................................. The person purporting to be The Great Kilgo didn't assert you had been sued he asked the question. Someone Purporting to be you responded with zero."

It was not someone purporting to be me. It was me.

"You, once again if it was you, are on record denying that it was in fact you who said that."

Well read what I just wrote. Your thinking is confused. First you say it was not me who responded to Kilgo. Then you say it was me.

"You can forgive us for being skeptical if you wont tell us what your name is. Why is this important? It is because you spend so much time anonymously insulting others, especially Dr. Harr."

Pointing out that Sidney is a medical school graduate with minimal training and minimal experience actually practicing clinical medicine is the truth. That the truth does hurt is not an insult. Sidney purports to know more about clinical medicine than eperienced practitioners. And Sidney insults innocent falsely accused men by proclaiming them guilty in the face of zero evidence that Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she was raped, a fact which you call irrelevant because you trust Crystal.

"You so frequently insult him that it calls into question whether you have sufficient credentials to harshly judge others. What is it you fear in not posting anonymously; litigation, harassment or embarrassment? What have you got to hide."

The amount of what I have to hide is the same as the amount of proof you give that Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she was raped, ZERO. So again go and stew. You wouldn't believe it anyway. You do not believe that Crystal was never raped at the Lacrosse party even though you admit you have zero evidence she was. I choose not to reveal said data to someone who has the morals and attitudes of a lynch mobster/skinhead Nazi.

"Matthew 7:3"

You and Sidney are the people with the beams of lumber in your eyes. You show you are blind to facts which do not mesh with your racist guilt presumption.; December 3, 2017 at 2:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

why would anyone think you are entitled to know his/her personal data, especially considering the vicious attacks you launch upon people you dislike because they are better orr and more accomplished than you are, like the attacks you launch on the Lacrosse players who did not rape Crystal, who were never complicit in any attack on Crystal. I remind you, you have admitted you can offer zero proof Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she had been raped.

Now you are going to say I am insulting Crystal.

So go ahead and stew.; December 3, 2017 at 3:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Ray Charles; December 3, 2017 at 4:06 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

I have completed my latest sharlog and it is ready to upload to my domain, however, I decided to add a few additional pages/documents that will make it more relevant. Monday will be a busy day for me, but I will dedicate my energies to having the sharlog and its additions posted by noon Tuesday, December 5th.

Apologies for the delay.

As you were.; December 3, 2017 at 4:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

I have completed my latest sharlog and it is ready to upload to my domain, however, I decided to add a few additional pages/documents that will make it more relevant. Monday will be a busy day for me, but I will dedicate my energies to having the sharlog and its additions posted by noon Tuesday, December 5th.

Apologies for the delay.

As you were."

Another meaningless screed is forthcoming.; December 3, 2017 at 4:56 AM
George Adams said...: Dr. Harr,

I am looking forward to seeing your latest sharlog.; December 3, 2017 at 5:58 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "why would anyone think you are entitled to know his/her personal data, especially considering the vicious attacks you launch upon people you dislike because they are better orr and more accomplished than you are, like the attacks you launch on the Lacrosse players who did not rape Crystal, who were never complicit in any attack on Crystal........................Well, it's because of the vicious attacks you launch anonymously, like, for example, you have done today and, in knee-jerk fashion, do every day that we post. Don't be cowardly and attack us anonymously. Show some moral courage.; December 3, 2017 at 8:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhycera:

"Dr. Anonymous said: "why would anyone think you are entitled to know his/her personal data, especially considering the vicious attacks you launch upon people you dislike because they are better orr and more accomplished than you are, like the attacks you launch on the Lacrosse players who did not rape Crystal, who were never complicit in any attack on Crystal........................Well, it's because of the vicious attacks you launch anonymously, like, for example, you have done today and, in knee-jerk fashion, do every day that we post. Don't be cowardly and attack us anonymously. Show some moral courage."

Your paranoia does not make the truth a vicious attack.

Now go on and continue stewing, the longer the better.; December 3, 2017 at 8:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Do you really think your attacks on the Lacrosse players, the men who were falsely accused of raping Crystal are not vicious?

If you do, in addition to being morally a lynch mobster/skin head nazi equivalent you are lacking in a moral compass. I remind you, you have admitted you have zero proof that Crystal ever told the truth when she alleged she had been raped. The best you can come up with is that you trust her.

If you do not like the heat, the consequences of the Pathologic attitudes you espouse either change them or get out of the kitchen.; December 3, 2017 at 8:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

check out http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/FTrials/scottsboro/SB_acct.html

"Also greeted by the posse in Paint Rock were two mill workers from Huntsville, Victoria Price and Ruby Bates. One or the other of the girls, either in response to a question or on their own initiative, told one of the posse members that they had been raped by a gang of twelve blacks with pistols and knives. In the jail that March 25th, Price pointed out six of the nine boys and said that they were the ones who raped her. The guard reportedly replied, 'If those six had Miss Price, it stands to reason that the others had Miss Bates.'"

There is more than a little bit between this and your statement, "Because Crystal is a person I trust I have no need of proof."

And take this quote, "One or the other of the girls, either in response to a question or on their own initiative, told one of the posse members that they had been raped by a gang of twelve blacks with pistols and knives."

More than a little bit of similarity to the Crystal situation, in which she was taken to the Durham Access Center for involuntary commitment for detox, then asked by a nurse if she had been raped. She replied yes. That was the first time she ever alleged rape.

This from the above URL: "Many local newspapers had made their conclusions about the defendants before the trials began. One headline read: "'ALL NEGROES POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED BY GIRLS AND ONE WHITE BOY WHO WAS HELD PRISONER WITH PISTOL AND KNIVES WHILE NINE BLACK FIENDS COMMITTED REVOLTING CRIME.'"

More than a little bit of similarity to the reaction to Crystal's allegation of rape:

e.g. Nifong publicly proclaiming, before there was any investigation that a crime had happened, Duke Lacrosse players were the perpetrators, and the crime was racially motivated;

The statement of the gang of 88 presuming members of the Lacrosse team guilty;

The pot bangers picketing the house on Buchanan Avenue carrying signs saying Castrate and Give them full measure.

And this, from the above URL, just for good measure, dealing with your claim about the whitish fluid found in Crystal's genital tract which you seem to think should have been presumed semen:

"Dr. R. R. Bridges, the Scottsboro doctor who examined the girls less than two hours after the alleged rapes, was the next prosecution witness to take the stand. He turned out to be a better witness for the defense. He did confirm that semen was found in the vaginas of the two girls (more in the case of Bates than of Price). Leibowitz, however, was able to show on cross-examination that the girls were both calm, composed, and free of bleeding and vaginal damage. Moreover, the semen that Bridges examined was non-motile, even though sperm generally live from twelve to forty-eight hours after intercourse."

I pointed out to you that no wet mound was done, which would have documented the fluid had been semen if motile sperm had been identified. The test was available. You did say that doing a wet mount would have been "cya medicine". You were not interested in proof but in presuming the accused Lacrosse players were guilty.

You do have a lot in common with the people who pushed for the conviction of the Scottsboro boys.; December 3, 2017 at 9:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

STEW STEW STEW; December 3, 2017 at 10:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny is frustrated and intimidated and daunted.; December 3, 2017 at 2:06 PM
Anonymous said...: The Great Kilgo(or unreasonable facsimile of):

"THIS IS MY MOST MEANINGFUL COMMENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Presumes a fact not in evidence, that the purportedly great kilgo ever made a meaningful comment.; December 3, 2017 at 3:07 PM
desconocido said...: Kenny,
Si quieres ver al verdader gordo Kilgo (que no es el que dice tanta soquetada) lo mejor es que vengas a Durham.
Avisame cuando vas a llegar.; December 3, 2017 at 3:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Ubes views himself as a thoughtful legal scholar. Hence, his constant use of phrases such as "Presumes a fact not in evidence" and "Res ipsa loquitur."; December 3, 2017 at 6:00 PM
JSwift said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; December 3, 2017 at 6:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Yet Ubes, the thoughtful legal scholar, railed against another poster who wanted to use hypotheticals to discuss legal issues in the Carter case. Techniques used to illustrate legal concepts in law school are inappropriate for this blog.; December 3, 2017 at 6:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous:

"Yet Ubes, the thoughtful legal scholar, railed against another poster who wanted to use hypotheticals to discuss legal issues in the Carter case. Techniques used to illustrate legal concepts in law school are inappropriate for this blog."

Tell that to Sidney and Kenny who, without a shred of legal training, think they know the law better than anyone. When Sidney was called by the NC State Bar to a hearing on his practicing law without a license, he bragged he would humiliate the Bar. He also posted at one time that people were amazed by his grasp of he law. Maybe they were. His grasp of the law was the equivalent of someone with a slimy greasy hand trying to grasp a rotten apple.; December 4, 2017 at 3:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous December 3, 2017 at 6:00 PM:

"Ubes views himself as a thoughtful legal scholar. Hence, his constant use of phrases such as "'Presumes a fact not in evidence' and Res ipsa loquitur.'"

It is presumption of a fact not in evidence and a matter of res ipsa loquitur that Sidney and Kenny think they are medical experts and legal experts, even though Sidney is a minimally trained, minimally experienced medical school graduate who was never accepted into a residency and who never achieved medical board certification. Regarding Kenny, his credentials as a medical and legal expert add up to, he has not fallen off the turnip truck.; December 4, 2017 at 3:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Regarding the entity who identifies itself as Kilgo who posted at December 3, 2017 at 2:56 PM December 3, 2017 at 5:28 PM and which describes itself as great:

The entity's extremely limited vocabulary shows it does not know what nuance means.; December 4, 2017 at 3:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal:

Regarding the timing of DNA deposition, and this gets back to what I posted about the Scottsboo Boys case:

I concede that the failure to find motile sperm in the flui found on Crystal would not have ruled out that it was semen. But, had the wet mount been done and was negative for motile sperm, it would have indicated the time of deposition. Recall what was in the quote from the article, that motile sperm can be detected as long as 12 to 48 hours after semen deposition. Had the wet mount been negative it would have established that the semen could not have been deposited at the Lacrosse party, which was less than 12 hours before the rape exam.

I remind you that the rape kit tested negative for alkaline phosphatase and you have noted that alkaline phosphatase can degrade over time. The significance is, the presence of semen and no evidence of alkaline phosphatase indicates the material could not have been left on Crystal's person at the Lacrosse party.

There goes your speculation about unidentified party attendees.; December 4, 2017 at 3:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Now it is time for the entity which styles itself as the great kilgo to manifest its spectacularly limited intellectual capacity and its spectacularly limited vocabulary.; December 4, 2017 at 4:46 AM
A Lawyer said...: Dr. Harr,
Are you going to leave up those QUACK QUACK posts which add nothing to then discussion and make it very hard to read this blog?; December 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Dr. Harr,
Are you going to leave up those QUACK QUACK posts which add nothing to then discussion and make it very hard to read this blog?

December 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM

Hey, A Lawyer.

Apologies to you, kenhyderal, and other visitors and contributors to this blog site comment section who do so in good faith. I have been busy, not only recently, but for some time with my attention given to advocating for Crystal's release... writing letters, delivering letters, producing sharlogs, and sending out disks... networking... filing lawsuits. As a result, the time I've allotted to policing this blog site has been essentially zilch.

However, I will now make an effort to remove all QUACK QUACK comments under the A Lawyer Doctrine. It may take some time for me to get around to removing them as I do not visit my site every day due to time constraints.; December 4, 2017 at 11:33 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: UBES I PROMISE NOT TO INCLUDE ANY MORE QUACKS IN MY POSTS

SPIN UBES SPIN

SPIN UBES SPIN

SPIN UBES SPIN

SPIN UBES SPIN

SPIN UBES SPIN; December 4, 2017 at 4:53 PM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
Could you please get rid of all the SPIN UBES SPIN lines?
Not that it'll do any good, as I'm sure he'll come up with some more stupid lines.; December 4, 2017 at 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...: I predicted that the entity which styles itself would again demonstrate its minimal vocabulary and its less than minimal intellectual capacity. It has not disappointed me.; December 5, 2017 at 1:39 AM
Anonymous said...: The entity which styles itself as the great kilgo must be extremely frustrated that over 99% of its limited vocabulary has been excluded from J4N.; December 5, 2017 at 3:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Let's make it up to 400.

Kenny:

the entity which styles itself as the great kilgo:

STEW STEW STEW!!!!; December 5, 2017 at 7:43 AM

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