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The truth will set Crystal Mangum free. That is a proposition of which I have been a proponent for some time. Durhamians and Tar Heelians would put a kibosh on the baseless and vendetta-driven criminal charges against Crystal Mangum (the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser) if they only knew the truth about events of April 3, 2011, that were responsible for Mangum’s current entanglement with the law. But the masses are ignorant of the truth… in the dark, left standing amidst the shadows of a moonless night. The reason for the misguided opinions and sentiments surrounding this injustice is due to actions and inactions of the mainstream media… all acting in concert with one another and their fellow co-conspirators. Media’s main contribution to the conspiracy against Mangum is to keep the truth hidden… buried deep beneath diversions, misstatements, selective omissions, misinterpretations, and outright lies. Instead of acting as a torch of enlightenment in the Mangum case, it has been functioning as a shroud to strike the death knell for justice.
For the prosecution to be able to bring such bogus and baseless charges against Ms. Mangum, with a straight face, requires the devoted participation of four additional center-stage actors: (1) the medical examiner (to provide the fraudulent autopsy report upon which to base the prosecution); (2) extremely pliable turncoat defense attorneys (to look the other way, pull punches, and advise against Mangum’s best self-interests); (3) enablers (individuals and organizations [NAACP, ACLU, etc.] who are in a position to do or say something to positively impact the situation, but elect to remain silent… mostly out of fear, having learned their lessons from the persecution of former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong); and (4) the mainstream media. Of the aforementioned four, the media is one of the crooked prosecution’s most valued allies because of the influence it has over the public… a public that for the most part places a great deal of trust in the media to provide honest and accurate reporting.
Although the mainstream media has been charged with being a public watchdog, to expose corruption in government and business that adversely affects the civilian citizens, when it comes to the Duke Lacrosse case or any of its participants, all bets are off. The driving force behind the remarkable unity of all media outlets stems from the fact that Rae Evans, mother of one of the Duke Lacrosse defendants, was an executive at CBS News for more than a decade. Afterward, she founded a highly successful Washington DC public relations firm of which she is president and CEO. In addition, her husband is an attorney in a prestigious DC law firm. As strong as her ties are to the other media outlets, there is no doubt that she possesses sway as to how stories are spun, and she has not kept her feelings hidden. During an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” show, Ms. Evans stated that she wanted Mr. Nifong to “pay every day for the rest of his life” (as retribution for his having the audacity to prosecute her son and the other lacrosse players). Defying journalistic codes of good standards, CBS never disclosed Ms. Evans’ ties to the station during any of its programs which featured its biased stories about the Duke Lacrosse case.
Another factor which drives the selective, skewed, and one-sided reporting of the Crystal Mangum case is the media’s desire to protect Duke University’s reputation and to mitigate the civil liability which Durham has self-inflicted upon itself with its unjust treatment of Mangum. The quandary at the root of the murder charge against Mangum is the fact that Reginald Daye’s death was not caused by the stab wound inflicted by Mangum. An unrelated botched intubation by Duke University Hospital staff, which resulted in brain death, led to Daye’s elective removal from life support… the proximate cause of his death. The media, through the prosecution’s charge against Mangum, has done its best to shift blame for Daye’s death from the Duke hospital, where it truly belongs, to Crystal Mangum.
Shortly after the stabbing of Reginald Daye by his live-in companion Mangum, the mainstream media flourished with articles about the stabbing, ABC-11 even falsely stating that Daye was repeatedly stabbed by Mangum. Lacking a lot of specifics, especially Mangum’s side of the story, the media devoted little attention to the incident itself, and focused much on the so-called “2010 arson” incident involving Mangum, and her role in the Duke Lacrosse case… never failing to misleadingly mention that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were declared “innocent.” Mangum was represented by media as emotionally unstable, mentally ill, and a perpetual prevaricator with a penchant for being physically violent with her boyfriends… none of which is true. On the other hand, the media hid from the public Reginald Daye’s criminal history (which included assault on a female), the fact that he was an alcoholic, and that he was highly intoxicated at the time of the incident. The media never bothered to mention that Mangum sustained physical injuries, including a swollen lower lip and a cut around her left eye. Nor did the media report findings at the scene of the incident which included clumps of Mangum’s hair, and a bathroom door that had been kicked in by Daye. In fact, the media, at all times, painted Mr. Daye in the most positive light.
As the media became more aware of the weaknesses in the prosecution’s case, its coverage of the case markedly diminished. On the third postoperative night, after Duke University Hospital staff intubated the esophagus rather than the trachea which resulted in Daye’s comatose state, the media went into a self-imposed news embargo on the subject. For a week, while Daye lay in a coma, the media kept the public in the dark as to the serious and significant turn of events in Daye’s medical condition. It was not until after Daye died a week later that the people were even informed about the fact that Daye had been in a weeklong coma. A suddenly apathetic media all of a sudden had no curiosity as to how Daye’s condition dramatically evolved from “expected to make a full recovery” to “irreversible brain-damaged induced coma.” Instead, the media placed the blame for Daye’s death on Mangum… never mentioning the botched intubation and, with the exception of only one media source, not mentioning that Daye was even on life support and that his elective removal from it preceded his death.
There was a flurry of media activity when the autopsy report was released to the public four months after it was written by Medical Examiner Clay Nichols. The media falsely proclaimed to the people that the stab wound inflicted by Mangum perforated “six” organs… the left lung, the diaphragm (not an organ, but a muscle), the left kidney, the stomach, the spleen, and the colon. As I revealed online in the operative report I procured from prosecution discovery, only the spleen and colon were damaged by the knife wound. In addition, other medical reports from prosecution discovery contradicted that Daye sustained any lesions to his left upper extremity which Dr. Nichols interpreted as being “defensive injuries.” Although the lack of credibility of the autopsy report by Nichols was brought to the attention of the mainstream media, they never attempted to question its accuracy or to set the record straight. Instead, the media chose to let their readers and viewers continue to believe that Daye’s death was due to the perforation of six organs by a single stab wound to the torso with a steak knife.
Specifically, I made contact with WRAL and its investigative team (including manager Randall Kerr), and ABC-11 at its downtown Raleigh studio, to enlighten them about the problems with the Daye autopsy report by Dr. Nichols. I even hand-delivered a letter to Jim Goodmon, the president and CEO of Capital Broadcasting Company which owns WRAL and FOX 50 among other media holdings. Per the usual response I have received from the media, I was ignored. As I was aware, the problem was not that the media did not know that what they reported regarding the autopsy report was incorrect and misleading, but that they did not want the general public to know. Such is still the case as the media continues to ignore the injustices in Mangum’s plight.
Another tactic utilized by the media is to not so subtly defile supporters of Mangum by presenting them as being lawless, unstable, and irresponsible. The headlines may blare that “Mangum supporter is being investigated by the State Bar,” but it is that which is underlying that story that is concealed. When approaching her one year anniversary of incarceration with no activity by her attorney of record, Mangum requested my assistance in drafting motions for her. I innocently drafted three motions based upon prosecution discovery that she sent me. She signed the motions and I filed them with the court. According to the State Bar, more than one journalist complained about me practicing law without a license… which propelled the Bar to investigate me. In order to conceal the identities of the journalists, the Bar itself assumed the role of the complainant in the action against me. Although the alleged wrongdoing against me was trivial and petty, the media, and the State Bar both made a mountain out of this tiny molehill. Diversion ruled the day, as the media brought attention to the alleged unauthorized practice of filing the motions (even questioning whether or not Mangum knowledge or consent for their filings), while disregarding the issues addressed by contents of the motions.
The selective and biased reporting by the media is not without severe consequences with respect to the administration of justice. Its role in the conspiracy against Mangum has helped keep a person innocent of committing a crime (and actually being a victim of crimes against her by Daye) incarcerated for 505 days as of today’s posting… and counting. The media is doing a disservice to Ms. Mangum, to Lady Justice, to the cause of “equal justice for all,” and to the public which reads its reports and views its broadcasts. In all fairness I do not fault reporters, news anchors, managers, and editors on the lower rungs of the media business, as the policies regarding how stories about Mangum are to be presented are determined by those at the top. Mr. Goodmon, as president and CEO is to be held accountable, rather than anchor David Crabtree, for example. Presidents and CEOs of ABC-11 and NBC-17 are guilty of failing in their duty to the public, as well. The media conspiracy in this Mangum criminal issue is long on fidelity and ubiquitous throughout the country.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t help persuade the mainstream media to do the right thing when enablers, such as politicians, retired judges, the governor, the Attorney General’s Office, civil rights leaders and organizations, including the North Carolina Coalition Against Domestic Violence, sit on their hands and allow their mouths to be muzzled. Only the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong is speaking out against the injustice towards Crystal Mangum… and as would be expected, the media has gone out of its way to minimize the group and discredit it whenever possible.
The media’s handling of the Crystal Mangum case has been disgraceful, and its subscribers and the public at large deserve better.
Monday, August 20, 2012
Mainstream media’s big role in the conspiracy against Crystal Mangum
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More Jeopardy:
Answer: "Mainstream media’s big role in the conspiracy against Crystal Mangum"
Question: What does not exist
More jeopardy:
Answer: "On the third postoperative night...Duke University Hospital staff intubated the esophagus rather than the trachea which resulted in Daye’s comatose state.
Question: What is an event, as is documented by the medical record SIDNEY HARR illegally ccessed and published, which did not happen.
SIDNEY HARR:
I say again you have been trumpeting this dietorted set of events for months. You have presented it to the court. Crystal remains incarcerated and the charges stand.
Ergo, what you proclaim about Crystal must not be the truth.
SIDNEY HARR:
"[The media never fails] to misleadingly mention that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were declared 'innocent'."
This statement shows you are conducting a vendetta against innocent, falsely accused Caucasian men, which vendetta is racially motivated. You are outraged that the falsely accused men were not wrongfully convicted of raping false accuser Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
You have published another manifestation of your lack of touch with reality, which is why I believe you are probably schizophrenic.
You have once again LIED about Mr. Daye. He did not have a criminal record that included an assault on a female. As you very well know that CHARGE WAS DROPPED. Are you blind? Can you not read, sir? Are you disabled in some way that prevents you from reading and understanding the English language? You are also LYING when you state that Daye was an alcoholic. This statement is your OPINION....there is not one bit of evidence to support your assertion.
It is clear that you will continue to LIE. Shame on you.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I innocently drafted three motions based upon prosecution discovery that she sent me."
That is factually untrue. You ignorantly drafted those motions. Ignorance of a law does not confer innocence upon you when you violate it.
Tat you wrongfully claim you are innocent shows you believe you are above the law.
SIDNEY HARR:
"During an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” show, Ms. Evans stated that she wanted Mr. Nifong to “pay every day for the rest of his life” (as retribution for his having the audacity to prosecute her son and the other lacrosse players)."
What you omit to mention, probably deliberately, is that Mrs. Evans made her statement AFTER the NC State Bar had compiled its case against DA Nifong. You distort the truth.
When you say that Reginald Daye was charged with assaulting a female, you distorted the truth. You neglected to state, probably deliberately, that a DA dismissed the charge.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I made contact with WRAL and its investigative team (including manager Randall Kerr), and ABC-11 at its downtown Raleigh studio, to enlighten them about the problems with the Daye autopsy report by Dr. Nichols. I even hand-delivered a letter to Jim Goodmon, the president and CEO of Capital Broadcasting Company which owns WRAL and FOX 50 among other media holdings. Per the usual response I have received from the media, I was ignored."
So what did you expect, after all the manifestations that you did not have a clue as to what happened?
SIDNEY HARR:
"As the media became more aware of the weaknesses in the prosecution’s case, its coverage of the case markedly diminished."
What weaknesses have you demonstrated?
You have demonstrated only that you are out of touch with reality and probably schizophrenic.
Total BULL. Absolute total BULL. I sincerely wonder if there is something seriously wrong with this guy, Harr. Is he delusional? Does he actually believe this giant conspiracy nonsense? Is he so full of hate and racist poison that he simply cannot see beyond the end of his bigoted nose? Good lord. Now we have the entire media, the governor, the AG, the entire Durham legal system, the entire Durham LEO, all of Duke, the ME's entire staff, ANY attorney who does not dance on the end of Harr's puppet strings,the ACLUS, the NAACP, the LAX families and .....the Grand Dragonness herself, Mrs. Evans.....ALL holding secret tri-lateral meetings, somewhere on a secluded mountain top, figuring out how to screw over Mangum. Holy bat cape!!! I guess the only reason Harr has not included the President of the United States in the conspiracy net is because, uh, Obama is black. If a white person were in the oval office today, you can damn well bet that Harr would be telling us how the Prez wants to stick it to Mangum.
This is really sad and a huge waste of time.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Only the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong is speaking out against the injustice towards Crystal Mangum".
Showng that its lay advocate is out of touch with reality and probably schizophrenic.
Harr continues to ignore and distort though he has been caught in his lies and corrected on the site on countless occasions. It's pointless to waste time on this idiot. He is in love with his own voice and there is nothing in his head but racist hate. Period. End of ugly story
SIDNEY HARR:
"[The media's] role in the conspiracy against Mangum has helped keep a person innocent of committing a crime (and actually being a victim of crimes against her by Daye) incarcerated for 505 days as of today’s posting."
As of today, Crystal is innocent because she has not been proven guilty)The falsely accused Lacrosse players were never convicted of anything, but you refuse to concede heir innocence).
However, there is no evidence that Reginald Daye ever assaulted Crystal.
More than anything, anything, Crystal's long incarceration is the consequence of SIDNEY and his gang making no effort to post bail for her.
I completely agree with and totally support what Rae Evans said concerning Nifong. Any responsible parent who KNEW (at the time she made that statement) exactly what Nifong had ALREADY DONE......would say exactly the same thing. Nifong's role in the REAL conspiracy to frame the LAX guys (when Nifong knew they were excluded as contributors to the sperm bank in and on Mangum) was ALREADY established. Harr has apparent dementia when it comes to remembering the true sequence of events. In any case, if my kid had been railroaded by Nifong and his cronies, you can damn well bet I would be happy to say the same thing. I don't blame Evans one bit and I doubt any other parent would, either.
To claim she had/has some kind of influence over the media is laughable. She worked for the network YEARS ago.....and has ZERO relationships there now. Zero.
As I recall the media, local and national (print, internet, TV and otherwise) were slobbering over the prospect of lynching the LAX guys! Nancy G. all but had a cow, thinking she had three villans already convicted. The NY Times demonstrated its true bias and had the boys headed to prison.
In short, Harr continues to run his mouth with the same old tired lied, the same old tired conspiracy nonsense.......and he continues, of course, to refuse to bail out Sister
Hilarious.......a knee slapper. Duke murdered Reginald Daye. right, bro! You betcha. Sure thing. And now the Dukies are pulling the strings and directing the "national media" to string up poor Mangum.
Wow, bro......take your meds or something. You need some help.
No Sid, you were not ignored by the media. WRAL took your letter and had it reviewed by their own consultant physician and a couple of lawyers. They concluded your letter was bunk. That's different from ignoring you. This is a common theme amoung the Nifong/Crystal hangers on. They tell their story to the media and it doesn't check out, so the media drops their story. The hangers' on then cry that they are bing ignored. The truth is, your story isn't holding up to scruitiny.
Of course, when you claim that Crystal's left eye was gouged and the mug shot doesn't support that claim, you lose a lot of credibility. Whey you claim her lip was busted, and the mug shot and police report contradict that claim, you lose even more credibility. When you claim medical malpractice was the legal cause of death when I have cited the law to you countless times that says medical malpractice, even the discontinuance of potentially life saving treatment is not an intervening cause, you lose all credibility.
Walt-in-Durham
Sidney,
On the last thread, you claimed:
For you to contend that an inaccurate statement is the product of a lie Is false because a lie implies an intent to deceive.
I explained why I believe someone lied: Crystal was the indirect source; a claim that your "sources" innocently misunderstood her is implausible.
Because I may have presented incorrect statements that I believed to be true does not make them lies.
I did not accuse you of lying.
I suggested your sources were J4N colleagues who claimed to have received information from Crystal or whom you believed had received information from Crystal. You could not have described the sources as credible if they had not received information from her.
On what basis did you conclude that your sources were credible? How did you believe they received information?
Likewise, I do not believe my sources lied to me...they just gave me wrong information.
On what basis do you make this statement?
Did you ask your sources why Crystal subsequently contradicted their information?if you did not do so, you have no basis to claim they did not lie. You do not know their intent.
The statements I attribute to Crystal came directly from her.
I believe you.
and represent the definitive word on the subject.
In the past, Crystal has made false or contradictory statements. A number of her statements in the lacrosse case were shown to be false. She both admitted and denied setting fire to Walker's clothes.
Unlike others, I admit when my statements are factually in error.
You seldom admit errors raised by your readers.
My endeavor is to enlighten, not mislead.
I accept that you believe what you post. However, you are unwilling or unable to engage in meaningful debate and to process information that contradicts your beliefs.
You owe your readers an explanation. You provided information that you now call inaccurate. You vouched for sources you claimed were credible. Your readers were misinformed as a result of your mistakes.
How did you make this error? What have you learned to prevent a recurrence?
I looked at the mug shot of Mangum yet again and I re-read the officer notes. It is really sad that Harr, when confronted with obviously contradictory evidence that does not support his version of events, resorts to one of several repeated avoidance tactics. He (a)simply ignores questions or obvious evidence, or, (b)restates the same version with no explanation for how clear evidence fails to support his accounts, or, (c)attacks the source, i.e., he says officers are in on the "fix" and that's why their reports don't match his accounts. In other words, he attacks the credibility of more and more people.......ever widening his conspiracy circle. I feel sorry for the man in some ways. He is embarrassing himself. However, his intrusion into Mangum's case is not worthy of pity because his butting in has done nothing but hurt her. That's inexcusable.
Let's hope that her trial comes up soon, that all the evidence is presented and that a jury makes the decision. I would rather her go to trial than have a plea bargain because I really would like to know ALL the evidence, from both sides, as presented by competent qualified counsel. Harr , unforunately, will go right on intruding and whining.
You know what strikes me most of all about Harr's writings and his behavior.......it's the sadness I feel that he sees the entire world through the lens of racism and race-based hate. It colors his entire world view. I believe he has never accepted that Mangum lied and that NOTHING happened to her that night at the LAX party. He so very much wanted the story to be true, he wanted those boys to pay for raping Mangum.....and he just never could accept the truth. Period. No way. To this day, Harr is one of those people who just cannot face the reality that Mangum lied, that Nifong became corrupted by his own greed and desire to win an election, that the lab director and others were in on the "frame" to keep exculpatory evidence away from the defense and that those young men.....stupid though they were for drinking and hiring strippers......did NOT touch Mangum. Because of Harr's unwillingness to see and face the truth, he has to build more and more layers of conspiracy around his fantasy in order to hold it up. What a way to live....bound by hate.....and both unwilling and unable to face the truth.
Whether Mangum's story is true, the self defense business, should be determined in court. This time, for this apparent crime, she may finally be held to account. But, for now, she is innocent until she is proven guilty.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"[The media never fails] to misleadingly mention that the Duke Lacrosse defendants were declared 'innocent'."
This statement shows you are conducting a vendetta against innocent, falsely accused Caucasian men, which vendetta is racially motivated. You are outraged that the falsely accused men were not wrongfully convicted of raping false accuser Crystal.
No, that is merely a statement of fact. Without exception, all media articles about Crystal Mangum mention about how the Duke Lacrosse defendants were declared innocent or exonerated. That observation by me does not constitute a vendetta or show outrage... just a keen awareness.
Anonymous said...
You have once again LIED about Mr. Daye. He did not have a criminal record that included an assault on a female. As you very well know that CHARGE WAS DROPPED. Are you blind? Can you not read, sir? Are you disabled in some way that prevents you from reading and understanding the English language? You are also LYING when you state that Daye was an alcoholic. This statement is your OPINION....there is not one bit of evidence to support your assertion.
It is clear that you will continue to LIE. Shame on you.
Reginald Daye's criminal record shows that he was charge with assault on a female. That is a fact. Whether or not the prosecution chose to dismiss the charge is irrelevant and has no bearing upon the credibility of the charge. The prosecutors may have dropped the charge because the witness may not have wanted to testify. Whatever the reason, fact is that Reginald Daye has a criminal history that includes assault on a female. If you do not like it, I suggest that you consider taking steps to have that charge expunged from his record.
I have no problem with the wording of the statements from the media. No problem at all. The men WERE and ARE INNOCENT. The statements are accurate. The AG and his team conducted an exhaustive investigation.........not a cursory lynching attempt at framing the LAX guys. Once again, it is obvious that Harr just simply cannot stand it that Mangum lied and that she did not get raped or anything else. It just galls him beyond words because he wanted so much to stick it to the white boys. Too bad....
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"During an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” show, Ms. Evans stated that she wanted Mr. Nifong to “pay every day for the rest of his life” (as retribution for his having the audacity to prosecute her son and the other lacrosse players)."
What you omit to mention, probably deliberately, is that Mrs. Evans made her statement AFTER the NC State Bar had compiled its case against DA Nifong. You distort the truth.
When you say that Reginald Daye was charged with assaulting a female, you distorted the truth. You neglected to state, probably deliberately, that a DA dismissed the charge.
Like the dismissal of the assault on a female charge, the timeline of when Ms. Evans made the televised statements in relation to any action by the State Bar is irrelevant. Fact is that she made them. It is what it is.
No, once again you wrongly state and interpret the record. The charge was dismissed/dropped and you AUTOMATICALLY assume Daye was guilty....you imply and assume the witness chose not to testify. Once again, assuming guilt. In THIS country, a person is innocent until proven guilty....a FACT you ignore. It is just as likely that the charge was dropped because there was no merit to the charge, no evidence, that the person who was supposed to have been assaulted lied about the charge, etc. Yet you automatically assume guilt because it fits your pre-determined racially blind bias. I would suggest you read the criminal record for Mangum. She has NINE CONVICTIONS, including violence against property, drunk driving, child abuse and so on. NINE CONVICTIONS. Document ONE single conviction that even remotely supports your lie that Daye was violent. You cannot because there were/are NONE. Liar.
Hooray for Mrs. Evans. Want to talk about another statement, Harr? How about sending an email to the mother of one of the LAX guys, telling her she gave birth to a farm animal. Wanna discuss THAT statement, bro????
Harr is avoiding......again.....amazing, isnt it. Watch him tap dance, folks.......the Artful Dodger of Raleigh
Anonymous said...
Total BULL. Absolute total BULL. I sincerely wonder if there is something seriously wrong with this guy, Harr. Is he delusional? Does he actually believe this giant conspiracy nonsense? Is he so full of hate and racist poison that he simply cannot see beyond the end of his bigoted nose? Good lord. Now we have the entire media, the governor, the AG, the entire Durham legal system, the entire Durham LEO, all of Duke, the ME's entire staff, ANY attorney who does not dance on the end of Harr's puppet strings,the ACLUS, the NAACP, the LAX families and .....the Grand Dragonness herself, Mrs. Evans.....ALL holding secret tri-lateral meetings, somewhere on a secluded mountain top, figuring out how to screw over Mangum. Holy bat cape!!! I guess the only reason Harr has not included the President of the United States in the conspiracy net is because, uh, Obama is black. If a white person were in the oval office today, you can damn well bet that Harr would be telling us how the Prez wants to stick it to Mangum.
This is really sad and a huge waste of time.
Shame on you for playing the race card.
Facts, evidence, prosecutorial discovery, logic, deductive reasoning, common sense, and intelligence all support the grand conspiracy against Mangum involving the following players: Durham prosecutors, Orange County Medical Examiner, Mangum's defense attorneys, the mainstream media, and the enablers (which are those who are in position to do something about the injustice but elect, for whatever reason, to remain silent and idle). The latter group does include the governor, the attorney general, politicians in the General Assembly, and organizations such as the NAACP, ACLU, and the North Carolina Coalition Against Domestic Violence.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Facts, evidence, prosecutorial discovery, logic, deductive reasoning, common sense, and intelligence all support the grand conspiracy against Mangum..."
You got that wrong SIDNEY. There is no evidence of any conspiracy against Crystal Mangum.
Via that last statement you again show you are totally out of touch with reality and are probably schizophrenic.
Nope, wrong, sir.........Total bull. You are a blind racist and you always will be. Too bad. You should be doing something constructive and this racist paranoid conspiracy nonsense is shameful. Go bail Mangum out and get her an attorney you think is not a conspirator......put your money where your paranoia is.
Playing the race card? Sidney has the cajones to make that statement? Funniest line of the week........... sad little man
SIDNEY HARR:
"Facts, evidence, prosecutorial discovery, logic, deductive reasoning, common sense, and intelligence all support the grand conspiracy against Mangum..."
In divorcing yourself from reality, you show yourself incapable of logic, reasoning deductive or otherwise, common sense and, least of all, intelligence.
One lacking in those capabilities is incapable of meaningfully saying that all these capabilities show there is a conspiracy against Crystal Mangum.
Walt said...
No Sid, you were not ignored by the media. WRAL took your letter and had it reviewed by their own consultant physician and a couple of lawyers. They concluded your letter was bunk. That's different from ignoring you. This is a common theme amoung the Nifong/Crystal hangers on. They tell their story to the media and it doesn't check out, so the media drops their story. The hangers' on then cry that they are bing ignored. The truth is, your story isn't holding up to scruitiny.
Of course, when you claim that Crystal's left eye was gouged and the mug shot doesn't support that claim, you lose a lot of credibility. Whey you claim her lip was busted, and the mug shot and police report contradict that claim, you lose even more credibility. When you claim medical malpractice was the legal cause of death when I have cited the law to you countless times that says medical malpractice, even the discontinuance of potentially life saving treatment is not an intervening cause, you lose all credibility.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt, mon Ami, you put words in my mouth when you claim I said Mangum's lip was "busted." What I quoted from prosecution discovery was that she had a "swollen lower lip." I never used the word "busted."
Secondly, I never saw the mug shot of that particular arrest. I will not be able to comment on the related mug shot until she gets all of the prosecution discovery including photographs that her defense attorneys have been withholding from her.
Secondly, do you know for a fact that WRAL reviewed my letter with a consultant physician and attorneys, or are you just saying that? If so, I would like to have their names. Furthermore, I doubt whether you were privy to their conclusions about my letter. Regardless, they should have had the decency and professionalism to respond and explain to me what you allege they concluded... or do you believe it is appropriate for the media to ignore a letter of concern written in good faith?
I think it is absurd and another LIE that Harr says he has not seen the mug shot taken after the Daye killing. It is all over the internet, was in the news. It takes about three seconds to find it using Google, Sidney. You can even click it and enlarge it. Ever heard of Google? Once again Harr avoids and hides.....
The reports from the officers regarding Mangum's lip was that her lip, as reported by one officer, looked swollen.......and another officer said she had chapped lip. Not a single officer said she needed treatment for any injuries.......including no injury to her eye, no bruises, no marks on her neck that would indicate choking, no damage to her lip that would require treatment, etc. You have simply distorted the facts.
It is also quite obvious that Mangum and Daye could BOTH have had marks, scratches, and minor injuries .....that they sustained before their argument that night. As I look at my hands and arms, at this moment, I see a couple of scratches on one hand....from doing work on my car...and I have a bruise on my forearm from bumping into a doorframe. The presence of ANY injury or mark on a person is NOT sufficient to prove that somebody inflicted that injury or mark during an attack. If Mangum's story is true.....about an hour of being punched in the face, beaten, choked, thrown around, etc......there would be much clearer and easily seen marks and injuries. Serious choking attempts from a man the size of Daye would have left significant bruises on Mangum's neck. There were NONE
WRAL gets crackpot letters and emails by the dozens. They are under no particular directive or pressure to respond to anybody. The N&O, the Herald Sun, WRAL, The Charlotte papers and stations......get literally dozens of letters, complaints, calls, emails every single day. It is entirely up to them to determine how they wish to respond, IF they chose to respond at all. You are not special, sir. You are a private citizen with theories and a desire for personal publicity...to push your racial hatred. Good for WRAL for undertaking their own evaluation and for putting your dribble where it belongs.......in the round file
Rae Evans and all the other parents, loved ones, and family members of those young men were completely correct and, in my opinion, quite restrained and decent in their responses to the Nifong travesty. Had it been my son, you can bet I would have said far more than Rae Evans.
Hey Sidney, I just looked at the mug shot in question. Not ONE mark on Mangum. Nothing. How come your computer doesn't work?
I have said it before and I will say it again. Harr is blind to facts and to anything that does not fit his biased racist view of the world and those people in it that he hates. No amount of evidence, reality, facts, etc...will ever have the slightest impact on Harr. Mangum is an innocent victim of circumstance and a white vendetta. Nifong is an ethical man who got railroaded out of his job. The world is full of evil people (make that white people, or people of color who Harr thinks of race traitors) who are all essentially out to destroy Mangum. After years of reading his trash and watchimg his behavior, I am convinced the man is not capable of reasonable thought because his mind is just clouded by hate.
"Walt, mon Ami, you put words in my mouth when you claim I said Mangum's lip was "busted." What I quoted from prosecution discovery was that she had a "swollen lower lip." I never used the word "busted.""
Which is not supported by the physical evidence, the mug shot that is available to all online or at the jail.
" [Thirdly], do you know for a fact that WRAL reviewed my letter with a consultant physician and attorneys, or are you just saying that? If so, I would like to have their names."
I don't reveal my sources unless they permit it.
"...or do you believe it is appropriate for the media to ignore a letter of concern written in good faith?"
Sid, you are a source. Your faith, good, bad or otherwise is not the issue. All any media outlet is obligated to do is evaluate your information. The problem for you is you have no credibility because you and Crystal have made up so much. When the media, no matter what type, can't confirm your claims, they don't do anything with them.
Walt-in-Durham
Frankly Sid, if you stuck to complaining about North Carolina's horrible enforcement of the speedy trial right, you would have a lot more credibility than your factually unsubstantiated claims.
But, you have never been one to help the cause when you could hurt it.
Walt-in-Durham
SIDNEY HARR:
"Secondly, I never saw the mug shot of that particular arrest. I will not be able to comment on the related mug shot until she gets all of the prosecution discovery including photographs that her defense attorneys have been withholding from her."
The mug shot is posted on line. You could have viewed it had you made a minimal effort. However, you would rather hide from the truth.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Secondly, do you know for a fact that WRAL reviewed my letter with a consultant physician and attorneys, or are you just saying that? If so, I would like to have their names. Furthermore, I doubt whether you were privy to their conclusions about my letter."
A lot of people doubt that you have privy to what happened during the stabbing, what happened in the hospital. This divorced-from-reality interpretation you put on things is evidence you haven't got a clue.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Walt, mon Ami, you put words in my mouth when you claim I said Mangum's lip was 'busted.' What I quoted from prosecution discovery was that she had a "swollen lower lip." I never used the word 'busted.'"
You also never quoted from the ER report which said Crystal had minor injuries which did not require treatment. You have never viewed the mug shot of Crystal which showed no evidence of the severe beating you claim, even though you could have easily accessed the picture on line and viewed it. Nowadays, any one with a 5th grade education would know how to access information on line.
SIDNEY HARR:
"During an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” show, Ms. Evans stated that she wanted Mr. Nifong to “pay every day for the rest of his life” (as retribution for his having the audacity to prosecute her son and the other lacrosse players)."
You got that wrong. You deliberately do not mention that DA NIFONG weongfully prosecuted the Lacrosse players. If DA NIFONG had been an ethical attorney, as you claim, he would have refused to prosecute any one based on Crystal's claim.
Unfortunately, he continued to wrongfully prosecute them. The rest is history.
And SIDNEY HARR is carrying on a vendetta because he believes the innocent Caucasian Lacrosse players should have been wrongfully convicted, simply because they were Caucasian Lacrosse players.
To repeat, ONE officer said her lip looked swollen but needed no treatment. A second officer said she had a chapped lip. If you look at Mangum in the numerous (three) mug shots that are readily available online, you will note that her lower lip has small bumps or slight enlargement on both sides........it is clearly visible. She has always had this type of lower lip. Anybody with a computer and a brain can see the mug shots and verify these tiny bumpy spots on both sides of her lower lip. If you look at the mug shot taken after the Daye killing, you will exactly the same type of lower lip on her. There is no visible mark anywhere near either eye.....much less any kind of injury of gouging or punching or scratching. She looks like she had a rough night.......no question....her eyes look puffy to me, as though she has been crying and/or drinking. Before Harr yells, I will say that my observation of how she looks is just my opinion. Unlike Harr, I do not make statements here that confuse my opinion with fact. I do not know whether she cried a single tear. She just looks rough and has puffy eyes that could be seen as from crying. Bottom line, there is not a single mark on her face that would suggest any beating. Harr knows this. He has seen the photo. He is just lying about it as an excuse not to respond.
Let's compare criminal records between Daye and Mangum, shall we, bro? Wanna see who has CONVICTIONS for violence related crimes? Wanna see who has drunk driving offenses? Wanna see who got their license suspended THREE times? Wanna see who vandalized property and was convicted of child abuse? Huh, bro?
Just to keep this FACT based, I read the EMS report and officer reports on Mangum after the Daye Killing. Here is what the reports said...
No treatment required.
Lip, minor swelling(one report)
Lip, chapped, no swelling noted
Head no abnormalities
Neck, no abnormalities
Face, minor abrasion, left eye
left hand, minor abrasion.
No treatment required
Patient DENIED neck and torso trauma. Patient DENIED trauma to hand.
"minor facial trauma best described as superficial to face" And THIS is supposed to be consistent with a "an hour of sheer terror" , beating, choking, punching, gouging an eye, being thrown about, being held down, scratched?
Harr, you are so far off base and full of it......
Sidney,
I guess you are unwilling to help Crystal with money for bail and/or a different attorney (one not under the control of Rae Evans and her jihad).
If you really want to help Crystal, but can't afford to give money, then you and your merry band of brothers and sisters should print a few thousand copies of this blog post, stand on a street corner in downtown Durham, and distribute them to all the passersby.
It will be interesting to see the crowd's reaction to this.
Sidney: Regardless, they should have had the decency and professionalism to respond and explain to me what you allege they concluded... Or do you believe it is appropriate for the media to ignore a letter of concern written in good faith?
Sidney, why do you believe it is appropriate for you to ignore comments written in good faith?
Sidney knows very well that the charge against Daye for assaulting a female was dropped. He takes the unique view that a person's criminal record includes all charges except for those in which a trial results in a not guilty verdict.
For that reason, in Sidney's opinion:
Crystal Mangum's criminal record includes the attempted murder of Milton Walker.
Sidney,
Have you completed your investigation of the report that Crystal Mangum admitted to setting Walker's clothes on fire, implicitly admitting that she lied when she denied doing so?
Are you ready to reevaluate Mani Dexter's defense strategy, which your have characterized as "featherweight?"
Are you ready to consider that you and your J4N gang may have seriously compromised Mangum's defense?
Remember that Mangum had admitted to setting the fire in her videotaped interrogation with the police. She may have repeated that admission to counsel. Counsel could have Mangum testify that she did not set the fire without suborning perjury. She and her counsel would plead self-defense, making the case he said, she said.
You and your gang organize a press conference in which Mangum denies setting the fire and contradicting what he has admitted on videotape and contradicting what she has told her counsel.
She may have repeated to counsel after the press conference that she did in fact set the fire, making it virtually impossible for her to testify.
Good job, Sidney. You blew whatever credibility she retained. And you have the gall to criticize counsel...
Typo... Sorry
Counsel could NOT have Mangum testify that she did not set the fire without suborning perjury....
Crystal Mangum's criminal record includes felonious assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer.
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
4 sucilioSid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
Yep if daye's record is to be treated as harr wants it treated, then fine, let's discuss mangum's record inclusive of numerous additional charges.......several directly related to violence against others. Seems fair to me. Who threned to kill somebody with a knife in front of an officer' harr? Hmmmmmm?
Crystal Mangum's criminal record includes felonious possession of a stolen vehicle.
How about it, Sidney/ Gonna now tell us that we should view Daye's record one way and Mangum's, another? Or, are we going to hear all about how the entire North Carolina law enforcement community, since 2002, has conspired to lynch Mangum? Is that it? Were the LEOs involved in the incident, in 2002, also a part of the grand conspiracy, retrospectively? Did Mangum get her driver's license unjustly suspended three times by evil white people working for the DMV......well before 2002?
Excellent point to the poster who correctly noted the "charges" on Mangum's record. Gets my vote for the Fair Reporting Post of the Week.
As Walt has so often noted, Harr is selective in the issues and causes HE defines as unjust....and all of his "cases" eventually get twisted around to (a)himself, and (b)racial prejudice. Funny how that works, isn't it.
Harr is foolish and absolutely off-base to paint Mr. Daye as some kind of raging, woman beating, drunken wild man. There is not one shred of evidence to support this fable. I know Harr will, once again, tell us how Daye beat and choked Mangum (no evidence), how Daye pulled her hair out (no evidence), how Daye kicked down a door (no evidence that He did it, or when anybody did it, or how it got damaged......just reported to be broken), that Daye gouged Mangum's eye (no evidence), that Daye was a raging alcoholic (no evidence). AND I know that Harr will prattle on about poor Sister being the victim of some giant conspiracy led by Rae Evans. We have heard this trash countless times......and bro has yet to produce any evidence to support his paranoid conspiratorial plot.
It would be far more helpful to Mangum for Harr to do the following:'
1. butt out
2. start a fund raising effort to get her bail money
3. start a fund raising effort to buy an attorney that harr likes. (on second thought, that would definitely NOT help mangum)
4. start a public campaign to improve the state's performance for speedy trial
5. butt out.....of Mangum's "case"
I went back to look at a March article about Mangum after a bond hearing that month. In the article a comment was made (apparently by Shella) that the knfe that was supposedly used by Mangum to stab Daye had not been found.
I would like to know if the knife has been found....I thought it had been. anybody?
Another comment.....I believe I recall that Mangum violated a condition of a former bail status when she made direct contact with at least one of her children....I recall she was forbidden to do this and that, after this illegal contact occured, she was sanctioned by the court. Correct? Lance, Walt?
Hey, bro, do you think it's ok for a faculty member at Duke (who happens to be black) to send an email to the mother of one of the LAX guys, telling her she gave birth to a farm animal? What did Duke do to the faculty member to sanction/discipline him for this filthy remark? (answer: nothing) How does the lack of action/discipline by Duke against ANY of the 88 jibe with your notion that this same Duke is somehow out to screw Mangum? Seems to me Duke continues to kiss her backside with its ongoing silence around the behavior of the 88.
Kinda hard to see Duke not sucking up to Mangum......
After reading about Charlie Rogers, the lesbian basketball player from Nebraska who fabricated a hate crime, I wonder if SIDNEY might be contemplating fabricating a hate crime against himself as a ploy to show the carpetbagger jihad exists.
Anonymous said...
I think it is absurd and another LIE that Harr says he has not seen the mug shot taken after the Daye killing. It is all over the internet, was in the news. It takes about three seconds to find it using Google, Sidney. You can even click it and enlarge it. Ever heard of Google? Once again Harr avoids and hides.....
The reports from the officers regarding Mangum's lip was that her lip, as reported by one officer, looked swollen.......and another officer said she had chapped lip. Not a single officer said she needed treatment for any injuries.......including no injury to her eye, no bruises, no marks on her neck that would indicate choking, no damage to her lip that would require treatment, etc. You have simply distorted the facts.
Since my access to the internet is at the library and is limited, would you be so kind as to place the online address in a comment? Thanks.
Walt said...
"Walt, mon Ami, you put words in my mouth when you claim I said Mangum's lip was "busted." What I quoted from prosecution discovery was that she had a "swollen lower lip." I never used the word "busted.""
Which is not supported by the physical evidence, the mug shot that is available to all online or at the jail.
" [Thirdly], do you know for a fact that WRAL reviewed my letter with a consultant physician and attorneys, or are you just saying that? If so, I would like to have their names."
I don't reveal my sources unless they permit it.
"...or do you believe it is appropriate for the media to ignore a letter of concern written in good faith?"
Sid, you are a source. Your faith, good, bad or otherwise is not the issue. All any media outlet is obligated to do is evaluate your information. The problem for you is you have no credibility because you and Crystal have made up so much. When the media, no matter what type, can't confirm your claims, they don't do anything with them.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt, do you know for a fact that WRAL had a doctor and their lawyers review my letter? Yes or No.
No, I am not going to cater to your silly lies and your pretending that you don't know how to find a picture of Mangum on the internet. You have posted other pictures of her which you got off the internet. Interesting isn't it that you knew how to find the one of her from her , uh, press conference over her book....the one in the little dress-up outfit that Vincent Clark no doubt bought. Yet, you seem unable to click your way to the photos of her mugshots. Here's a hint,sidney.....type her name in google and look up images.....not really too tough since any 5th grader can put out a fire and use google these days.
You'll also find the ones of her straddling a chair in her underwear on the exotic escort service site. Really nice... but, oh, I guess only LAX guys engage in, what was it, "debauchery"???
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"Walt, mon Ami, you put words in my mouth when you claim I said Mangum's lip was 'busted.' What I quoted from prosecution discovery was that she had a "swollen lower lip." I never used the word 'busted.'"
You also never quoted from the ER report which said Crystal had minor injuries which did not require treatment. You have never viewed the mug shot of Crystal which showed no evidence of the severe beating you claim, even though you could have easily accessed the picture on line and viewed it. Nowadays, any one with a 5th grade education would know how to access information on line.
Crystal was never taken to the ER, however, someone can get repeatedly punched in the face and head and still not require treatment.
Also, show me a mug shot of Crystal that has the date it was taken. As you know, she has had previous mug shots taken.
Anonymous said...
Sidney knows very well that the charge against Daye for assaulting a female was dropped. He takes the unique view that a person's criminal record includes all charges except for those in which a trial results in a not guilty verdict.
For that reason, in Sidney's opinion:
Crystal Mangum's criminal record includes the attempted murder of Milton Walker.
I don't make this stuff up. Reginald Daye's criminal record shows that he was charged with assault on a female.
Does Crystal's criminal record show that she was charged with attempted murder of Mr. Walker?
If you don't want Daye's record to show that he was charged with assault on a female, I would suggest that you take action to have it expunged from his record. Good luck.
guiowen said...
Sidney,
I guess you are unwilling to help Crystal with money for bail and/or a different attorney (one not under the control of Rae Evans and her jihad).
If you really want to help Crystal, but can't afford to give money, then you and your merry band of brothers and sisters should print a few thousand copies of this blog post, stand on a street corner in downtown Durham, and distribute them to all the passersby.
It will be interesting to see the crowd's reaction to this.
Hey, Guiowen. Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm a Raleigh resident and am much to busy to be standing on the street corner.
Anonymous said...
Sid,
Is this true?
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
I hope kenhyderal is correct, but I have no idea about whether the statement is accurate or not.
Anonymous said...
Harr is foolish and absolutely off-base to paint Mr. Daye as some kind of raging, woman beating, drunken wild man. There is not one shred of evidence to support this fable. I know Harr will, once again, tell us how Daye beat and choked Mangum (no evidence), how Daye pulled her hair out (no evidence), how Daye kicked down a door (no evidence that He did it, or when anybody did it, or how it got damaged......just reported to be broken), that Daye gouged Mangum's eye (no evidence), that Daye was a raging alcoholic (no evidence). AND I know that Harr will prattle on about poor Sister being the victim of some giant conspiracy led by Rae Evans. We have heard this trash countless times......and bro has yet to produce any evidence to support his paranoid conspiratorial plot.
It would be far more helpful to Mangum for Harr to do the following:'
1. butt out
2. start a fund raising effort to get her bail money
3. start a fund raising effort to buy an attorney that harr likes. (on second thought, that would definitely NOT help mangum)
4. start a public campaign to improve the state's performance for speedy trial
5. butt out.....of Mangum's "case"
I'm sure that you as well as the prosecution and other Mangum detractors would like me to butt out... so that Mangum can be sold down the river. It's not gonna happen.
I believe Mangum has done a fine job of selling herself....for years. The mugshot of her taken after the Daye killing was widely posted across the internet with the date associated. Don't be a petty ass, Sidney. You know perfectly well the mugshot is there, and we all know you have seen it. Stop trying to fool people. It isn't working, pal. I would suggest to you that if you are going to treat dropped charges on Daye's record as a part of his criminal record, then, sir, you are obligated to do exactly the same with Mangum's record. and, yes, indeed, there is a felonious assault charge there, big as life. And now, we are all waiting for you to pretend that you don't have access to her criminal record because you go to the library. Pathetic, Sidney.
You are avoiding the point, Sidney. You cannot interpret Daye's record one way and Mangum's another. You know her record includes serious charges that were related to the Walker incident. I repeat....charges(S). Why are you lying now and acting as though you are ignorant of her record? The FACTS are that Reginald Daye was charged with assault on a female and that charge was dropped. Period. You do NOT know why it was dropped, so stop acting like you do. You also know that Mangum has multiple convictions on her record that include violence against property, child abuse, drunk/reckless driving, and theft. Stop pretending, sidney. The point here is that we all know how you distort, shade, interpret and twist information to suit your version of events. You have repeatedly stated information as though it were factual and the TRUTH......only later to be shown to be completely wrong. When you are confronted with the real FACTS, you lie, blame your "sources", act like you are being misunderstood and.....if all else fails.....you play your big religion "man from nazereth" card. It's getting really old, sidney......but we are all certain you will continue on as usual....because you are filled with and motivated by hate
I think Sidney is trying to build a case that because Daye had a previous assault charge (that was dropped)....that makes Mangum's claim of a violent beating and self defense legit. I would argue that the opposite it true.....the person with the true record of violent behavior that includes CONVICTIONS, as well as charges and prior threats of using a weapon to kill someone is NOT Daye.....it is Mangum. If the past is a predictor of future behavior, as Harr is implying about Daye.....then, of course, the past behavior of Mangum is also a predictor of her behavior. Ask yourself, Sidney........who, of the two, has the record of violence?
SIDNEY HARR:
"Since my access to the internet is at the library and is limited, would you be so kind as to place the online address in a comment? Thanks."
All you had to do, SIDNEY, and I think you were aware of this, was google the name, Crystal Mangum. When the search results come up, on the left side of the page is a link to images. Click on that link and you will get an array of images of Crystal, one of which is her mug shot after she was arrested in the Daye stabbing.
You have not found it yet because you want to avoid the truth about Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Crystal was never taken to the ER, however, someone can get repeatedly punched in the face and head and still not require treatment.
Also, show me a mug shot of Crystal that has the date it was taken. As you know, she has had previous mug shots taken."
SIDNEY, you yourself published a copy of the record of Crystal's treatment in the ER. It said, should you read it, that Crystal required no treatment.
You must have been a real fool of a physician if you believe someone can be severely beaten about the head and neck and not have findings.
Are you claiming now that Crystal had no evidence of a beating?
You could have viewed Crystal's mug shot a long time ago had you really wanted to.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I don't make this stuff up. Reginald Daye's criminal record shows that he was charged with assault on a female."
You lie by deliberately omitting information. The charge of assaulting a female was dismissed by the DA. Why do you try to conceal the truth.
You were blogging about the injustice of te attempted murder charge filed against Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I hope kenhyderal is correct, but I have no idea about whether the statement is accurate or not."
If KENHYDERAL is correct, then both you and he must consider this bad news, since neither of you advocate for justice.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Hey, Guiowen. Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm a Raleigh resident and am much to busy to be standing on the street corner."
Whatever is keeping you busy, SIDNEY, it is not figuring out a way to spring Crystal from jail. If you were doing so, you would be trying to raise bail money.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I'm sure that you as well as the prosecution and other Mangum detractors would like me to butt out... so that Mangum can be sold down the river. It's not gonna happen."
You again manifest that you are a deluded, probably schizophrenic megalomaniac.
Even the Crystal detractors and the prosecutors want Crystal to have a fair trial(something DA NIFONG never wanted to accord the innocent Lacrosse players he wrongfully prosecuted). Your interference is jeopardizing Crystal's right to a fair trial.
Besides, you have no standing in the case, no right to intervene.
Sid wrote: "Walt, do you know for a fact that WRAL had a doctor and their lawyers review my letter? Yes or No."
Yes.
Walt-in-Durham
@ Nifong Supporter re: 8/22/2012 -11:59........... Here is a copy of an e-mail I recieved from a Lawyer in Raleigh....................... ....I hear that Crystal may be close to making bond. If that is true, your contribution will be used for that purpose, as intended. I shall update you further when I know more. Please reply to acknowledge.
Thanks,
Mark Simeon
Mark Simeon Law Office
Sidney asks: Does Crystal's record show that she was charged with attempted murder of Mr. Walker?
As you know, Crystal was charged with attempted murder in that case. You discussed this charge in posts dated 2/23, 2/25, 2/27, 3/10, 3/28, 4/8, 4/11, 4/27, 5/3, 5/7, 5/16, 5/19, 6/1, 6/4, 6/13, 6/16, 7/1, 7/19, 7/29, 8/1, 8/3, 8/5, 8/11 and 8/14/2010.
You criticized the charge, claiming that the ADA overcharged Crystal in order to maximize bail and increase the pressure for Crystal to agree to a plea. Many of your readers agreed that Crystal appeared to have been overcharged.
Overcharging defendants and entering into plea bargains was something then DA Tracey Cline was known for. You, of course, found that Cline had no involvement with Crystal's case and was not at fault for the overcharges.
I have not retrieved a copy of Crystal's current record. Expungement of charges is rare when a defendant is found guilty on other charges.
I assume that your lapse of memory was quite innocent. You clearly did not remember the initial charges or any of the at least 24 posts in which you discussed the attempted murder charges.
Once again...harr lies and gets caught in his deception. It is NOT possible for a person to be beaten, scratched, choked, eye gouged, thrown on a floor, punched in the face and head.....lfor an hour.....and have no marks....and require no treatment. Mangum Denied neck and head and torso injury. Harr, you are either an idiot or a seriously disturbed person
kenhyderal said...
"@ Nifong Supporter re: 8/22/2012 -11:59........... Here is a copy of an e-mail I recieved from a Lawyer in Raleigh....................... ....I hear that Crystal may be close to making bond. If that is true, your contribution will be used for that purpose, as intended. I shall update you further when I know more. Please reply to acknowledge.
Thanks,
Mark Simeon
Mark Simeon Law Office"
Bahahahahaha
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Kenny, you'll have to provide something a little more convincing than that.
Sidney:
"Hey, Guiowen. Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm a Raleigh resident and am much to busy to be standing on the street corner."
Well, what exactly will you do for CGM? Will you give Simeon the money for bail? Do you or do you not want to help her?
I guess you want to help her, but not to the extent of actually doing something that might help.
Well you were not too busy to be standing in front of the jail withdurham's resident bigot..... How does it feel to be sharing the air with peterson? How does it make you feel, as a black man, to be next to a person who talks about diseased perverted gay people? Must make you real proud to have her photo on your site..........
It is an insult to persons of color to see Peterson's photo on the J4N (or any) web site that yells about justice. Shame on you, sidney harr.....any person of color who knows in his or her heart...the real meaning of equal rights and true justice....knows this photo is an offense and an insult to the LGBT community. You, who claim to be the source of enlightenment for all the rest of us ignorant hicks, continue your alliance with this individual. Again I say, shame on you.
Lance nailed it on the first comment to this latest episode in the soap opera. Still laughing, Lance. Perfect
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"Crystal was never taken to the ER, however, someone can get repeatedly punched in the face and head and still not require treatment.
Also, show me a mug shot of Crystal that has the date it was taken. As you know, she has had previous mug shots taken."
SIDNEY, you yourself published a copy of the record of Crystal's treatment in the ER. It said, should you read it, that Crystal required no treatment.
You must have been a real fool of a physician if you believe someone can be severely beaten about the head and neck and not have findings.
Are you claiming now that Crystal had no evidence of a beating?
You could have viewed Crystal's mug shot a long time ago had you really wanted to.
Crystal was evaluated by EMS, and not seen in the ER. There is a difference.
I believe that photos taken after the beating by Daye will show injuries. That's why they've been kept from her by her attorneys. Be assured that once I get my hands on them I'll put them on the internet so that you can see the swollen lower lip, cut around her eye... and clumps of her hair.
Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Walt, do you know for a fact that WRAL had a doctor and their lawyers review my letter? Yes or No."
Yes.
Walt-in-Durham
Very interesting, Walt. Why do you think the consulting doctor does not want his/her name revealed? What is he/she trying to hide?
You see, Walt, I put my face and my name behind my statements... it shows that I am fully committed to them. An advocate cannot stand in the shadows of anonymity. However, it does take courage to put your name out behind an unpopular position.
The journalists who pressured the State Bar to investigate me for writing motions on Mangum's behalf lacked the courage to let their names be known. That's why the State Bar was forced to enter itself down as the Complainant.
The reason the doctor doesn't want his/her identity known is because he/she knows that everything I said regarding Daye's autopsy report is true. Plain and simple.
Harr Supporter said...
Sidney asks: Does Crystal's record show that she was charged with attempted murder of Mr. Walker?
As you know, Crystal was charged with attempted murder in that case. You discussed this charge in posts dated 2/23, 2/25, 2/27, 3/10, 3/28, 4/8, 4/11, 4/27, 5/3, 5/7, 5/16, 5/19, 6/1, 6/4, 6/13, 6/16, 7/1, 7/19, 7/29, 8/1, 8/3, 8/5, 8/11 and 8/14/2010.
You criticized the charge, claiming that the ADA overcharged Crystal in order to maximize bail and increase the pressure for Crystal to agree to a plea. Many of your readers agreed that Crystal appeared to have been overcharged.
Overcharging defendants and entering into plea bargains was something then DA Tracey Cline was known for. You, of course, found that Cline had no involvement with Crystal's case and was not at fault for the overcharges.
I have not retrieved a copy of Crystal's current record. Expungement of charges is rare when a defendant is found guilty on other charges.
I assume that your lapse of memory was quite innocent. You clearly did not remember the initial charges or any of the at least 24 posts in which you discussed the attempted murder charges.
When I look up Reginald Daye's criminal record, there is a charge listed on it that states, "Assault on a female."
When I look up Crystal Mangum's criminal record I do not see "attempted murder" with respect to the 2010 incident involving Milton Walker.
I rest my case.
guiowen said...
Sidney:
"Hey, Guiowen. Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm a Raleigh resident and am much to busy to be standing on the street corner."
Well, what exactly will you do for CGM? Will you give Simeon the money for bail? Do you or do you not want to help her?
I guess you want to help her, but not to the extent of actually doing something that might help.
Au contraire, mon ami. Bail money is not the answer. What Crystal faces requires something more than a bandage... what she requires is the extirpation of the malignant cancer of vendetta vigilante justice. I use the internet like a scalpel to remove the injustice in its totality, which means having the charges against her dismissed!
I am surprised that Mangum's criminal record does not include the attempted murder charge.
Sidney, it would be helpful if you posted her record.
Walt, why would the attempted murder charge not be included?
"Au contraire, mon ami. Bail money is not the answer. What Crystal faces requires something more than a bandage... what she requires is the extirpation of the malignant cancer of vendetta vigilante justice. I use the internet like a scalpel to remove the injustice in its totality, which means having the charges against her dismissed!"
For goodness sake, Sidney! Only abut 20 people in the world read your blog and actually believe what you say. If you want to get the charges dismissed you have to reach a much larger audience, and you can best do this by standing on a corner in Raleigh or Durham.
If you don't do something other than write your blog, I can only assume that you really don't care what happens to Crystal; you are only interested in using her to talk about the Carpetbagger Jihad. If she spends a long time in jail, that's just proof that Rae Evans is the most powerful woman in the world; if she's set free that just proves how powerful YOU are.
You should be ashamed of yourself, using this poor benighted woman in this way.
Harr is an idiot if he tries to portray daye as having a record of violence. Mangum has convictions including violence, drunken driving, assault on a police officer and child abuse. Daye had a single cjarge of assualt on a female that was dropped. Harr is an idiot.
Gay people are people too harr... Hope you discoer someday that you insult african americans by associating with a homophobic bigot. As a good friend says, " homophobia is not a phobia and you are not afraid. You are simply an axxhole"
SIDNEY HARR:
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Crystal was evaluated by EMS, and not seen in the ER. There is a difference.
I believe that photos taken after the beating by Daye will show injuries. That's why they've been kept from her by her attorneys. Be assured that once I get my hands on them I'll put them on the internet so that you can see the swollen lower lip, cut around her eye... and clumps of her hair."
As if there is a significant difference between EMS and the ER. As if there is a significant difference between who noted that Crystal had no evidence of a severe beating around the head and neck.
The mug shot was taken after her alleged beating by Daye. It shows nothing. That is why you avoid looking at it.
What makes you think Crystal's attorney or the court would allow someone with no standing in the case to view evidence in the case?
SIDNEY HARR:
"Au contraire, mon ami. Bail money is not the answer. What Crystal faces requires something more than a bandage... what she requires is the extirpation of the malignant cancer of vendetta vigilante justice. I use the internet like a scalpel to remove the injustice in its totality, which means having the charges against her dismissed!"
If you are using the internet as a scalpel, it is to cut up your own nose while thinking yo are spiting every one else's face.
The only vendetta going on here is the vendetta you are carrying on against the innocent Lacrosse players, because you believe they should have been wrongfully convicted of rape.
SIDNEY HARR:
"...I put my face and my name behind my statements... it shows that I am fully committed to them. An advocate cannot stand in the shadows of anonymity. However, it does take courage to put your name out behind an unpopular position."
And all you accomplish is to show the world that you are completely out of touch with reality and are probably schizophrenic.
Sid says: "When I look up Crystal Mangum's criminal record I do not see "attempted murder" with respect to the 2010 incident involving Milton Walker.
I rest my case."
Since I know your time is limited, here's an article with details about the charges.
SIDNEY HARR:
"No, that is merely a statement of fact(that SIDNEY says that the Lacrosse players are not innocent). Without exception, all media articles about Crystal Mangum mention about how the Duke Lacrosse defendants were declared innocent or exonerated. That observation by me does not constitute a vendetta or show outrage... just a keen awareness."
Keen awareness of what? Your are certainly not aware that there was no evidence that the crime alleged actually happened. When questioned about the lack of evidence, you duck.
That says you ARE conducting a vendetta against the innocent Lacrosse players simply because they were not wrongfully convicted of raping the black woman who falsely accused them.
SIDNEY HARR:
"When I look up Reginald Daye's criminal record, there is a charge listed on it that states, "Assault on a female."
When I look up Crystal Mangum's criminal record I do not see "attempted murder" with respect to the 2010 incident involving Milton Walker."
This is called, none so blind as he who will not see. The assault on a female charge was dismissed by the DA, a truth you are afraid to confront.
If you did not see the charge of attempted murder filed against Crystal, why did you blog so extensively about how unfair the charge was?
SIDNEY HARR:
"The reason the doctor doesn't want his/her identity known is because he/she knows that everything I said regarding Daye's autopsy report is true. Plain and simple."
Who besides you, who thinks a 5th Grade education is all one needs to evaluate the findings of a forensic autopsy, says that your reading of the autopsy report is true?
Thanks Lance. Embarrassing isnt is, sidney. Now, shall we discuss charges AND convictions, sidney? The truth is that daye's record is mild and, frankly, tame compared to mangum's record.
Harr, you rattled on about the attempted murder charge in the Walker case.......over and over. Now you pretend you never heard of it. Comical.
You pretend to have not seen the mug shot taken after mr daye was killed. You have seen it and we all have too. Mangum looks rough, unkempt, perhaps has swollen eyes from crying, maybe hung over........who knows. But one thing is sure.......there is no evidence of this terrible beating you claim. In fact she DENIED trauma to her head and neck!
Stupid to argue about this. Harr is an idiot, playing doctor and lawyer, when all he really wants is an avenue to express his racial hate.
The mug shot taken after the brutal beating by Reginald Daye in the "hour of terror" in April 2011:
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8080106
The mug shot taken after the brutal beating by Milton Walker in 2010:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7068705/
A photograph taken by the DPD 2 days after the brutal beating and gang rape in March 2006:
http://johnsville.blogspot.com/2006/04/duke-rape-accuser-crystal-gail-mangum.html
Although Crystal shows no obvious signs of the brutal beatings she described, I urge readers not to jump to hasty conclusions. In all cases, Crystal shows a remarkable ability to heal quickly. Indeed, as Eddie Murphy's character stated in Beverly Hills Cop, a Kung Fu fighter "bruises on the inside."
I am sure that Sidney will provide an explanation that will eliminate the need for changes to the stories.
On July 29, you promised to post the letter from the Bar at your earliest convenience. When are you planning to do so?
Your appeal of the lawsuit against Duke was dismissed more tha 3 weeks ago. Pleas post the filings.
You readers are interested in reviewing your case.
1. Did you call the court's bluff and continue to direct vile invective at the court?
2. How did you differentiate your case from similar claims in the McFadyen case?
3. Did you make a serious legal argument or did you continue to make frivolous arguments?
Thanks in advance.
"Very interesting, Walt. Why do you think the consulting doctor does not want his/her name revealed? What is he/she trying to hide?"
Nothing. The fact of the matter is, nothing in your claims about the autopsy confirm an independent cause of death. As you conveniently ignore the rule in North Carolina, the rest of the US and indeed common law countries around the world is that an intervening cause has to be the independent cause of death to break the original assailant's culpability. I have cited the NC case law to you many times. Yet you still ignore it. So, your letter just failed to offer any information that shows an intervening cause. Until you offer any information that shows an independent cause, you are really wasting time and effort. It's time wasters like you who convince the fair minded that Crystal has no claim. You've done that in full measure. With friends like you, she needs no enemies.
Walt-in-Durham
"Walt, why would the attempted murder charge not be included?"
I ran the quickie check that anyone can run at the court house, it's included. In fact, every arrest, regardless of final outcome, is included in your NC criminal record. One of the real problems facing people who are acquitted or just wildly over charged. If you have a Nexis subscription, you can pull up many newspaper articles recounting her sordid criminal history. Her auto theft, her assaulting a police officer, of course her participation in the frame of three not only innocent, but completely uninvolved people and her clothes buring rage. Stabbing some poor schmuck over a couple of money orders was sadly predictable. Her rage has gotten worse over the years. I had hope that she would get help after the fiasco, but her enablers like Sid and Nifong have just stood in the way and now Reginald Daye is dead.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt: I ran the quickie check that anyone can run at the court house, it's included.
Thanks, Walt.
If that is true, I see 3 alternative explanations:
1. Sidney received a copy of her record with errors. Sidney was so excited that he failed to ask reasonable questions.
2. Sidney is unspeakably incompetent. The charge was included, but Sidney failed to see it, despite the specific question being raised.
3. Sidney deliberately lied. He realized the charge was included, but he did not believe that any of his readers would actually check.
In order to demonstrate that he received a copy of the record with an error, he will have to post it. If he fails to do so, we can easily conclude that he is hiding something.
Lance the Intern said...
Sid says: "When I look up Crystal Mangum's criminal record I do not see "attempted murder" with respect to the 2010 incident involving Milton Walker.
I rest my case."
Since I know your time is limited, here's an article with details about the charges.
Hah. That article is ludicrous. Fabrication and misleading at its best. Was she going to stab Walker with her fingernails? She was unarmed! Totally ridiculous. Jedi Mind-tricks work well on you.
Anonymous said...
Your appeal of the lawsuit against Duke was dismissed more tha 3 weeks ago. Pleas post the filings.
You readers are interested in reviewing your case.
1. Did you call the court's bluff and continue to direct vile invective at the court?
2. How did you differentiate your case from similar claims in the McFadyen case?
3. Did you make a serious legal argument or did you continue to make frivolous arguments?
Thanks in advance.
You're welcome, after the fact. To my knowledge the ruling is a matter of public record, so why don't you post a link to it. I'm too busy trying to get the charges against Crystal Mangum dropped.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Hah. That article is ludicrous. Fabrication and misleading at its best. Was she going to stab Walker with her fingernails? She was unarmed! Totally ridiculous. Jedi Mind-tricks work well on you."
SIDNEY, when confronted with the truth, that Crystal was charged with the attempted murder of Milton Walker, you slip more and more out of touch with reality.
SIDNEY HARR:
What justification have you given for having the charges dropped.
You unsubstantiated allegations do not constitute cause to have the charges dropped.
With regard to the allegation that Reginald Daye severely beat Crystal about the face and neck, you have not presented any evidence that said beating took place.
"Hah. That article is ludicrous. Fabrication and misleading at its best. Was she going to stab Walker with her fingernails? She was unarmed! Totally ridiculous. Jedi Mind-tricks work well on you.
YOUR claim was that no charge existed -- not that the claim was fabricated or that Crystal was unable to commit attempted murder.
As Walt pointed out, the court house check includes this information as well.
But, as Emerson pointed out, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...
Lance, I'm sure you have run into this problem as well, there are multiple criminal records floating around North Carolina. Some more comprehensive than others. Sadly, there is no definitive criminal record unless a person wants to check each clerk's office. Sort of like land titles. Every county has records. Some assignments never get recorded, yet they are very real and enforcible.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt,
Thank you for your research and comments.
I thought there could be different versions of a criminal record, with omissions and inaccuracies in some versions.
I was trying to give Sidney the benefit of the doubt, suggesting that the attempted murder charge could have been missing from the version he obtained.
In his haste to prove me wrong, he cited his version, not considering whether the omission made sense. After commenting on the attempted murder charge almost weekly over a six month period, he could not claim to have forgotten about it. It should have been included. Sidney may have some explanation for his failure to consider the obvious.
The onus is on Sidney to demonstrate he acted in good faith. His failure to acknowledge your discovery and his possible error is troubling. He has an obligation to post his version of Mangum's criminal record to demonstrate that the attempted murder charge was not included. He must identify his source. He should explain why he believed the charge was properly excluded from the record.
I will regard his failure to post his version as tantamount to an admission that the attempted murder charge was there and that he provided false information to his readers. As I noted before, a false statement is not necessarily evidence that Sidney is a liar. He may simply be incredibly incompetent. Despite looking specifically for it, he may simply have failed to notice that the attempted murder charge was in fact there.
Harr Supporter said...
Walt,
Thank you for your research and comments.
I thought there could be different versions of a criminal record, with omissions and inaccuracies in some versions.
I was trying to give Sidney the benefit of the doubt, suggesting that the attempted murder charge could have been missing from the version he obtained.
In his haste to prove me wrong, he cited his version, not considering whether the omission made sense. After commenting on the attempted murder charge almost weekly over a six month period, he could not claim to have forgotten about it. It should have been included. Sidney may have some explanation for his failure to consider the obvious.
The onus is on Sidney to demonstrate he acted in good faith. His failure to acknowledge your discovery and his possible error is troubling. He has an obligation to post his version of Mangum's criminal record to demonstrate that the attempted murder charge was not included. He must identify his source. He should explain why he believed the charge was properly excluded from the record.
I will regard his failure to post his version as tantamount to an admission that the attempted murder charge was there and that he provided false information to his readers. As I noted before, a false statement is not necessarily evidence that Sidney is a liar. He may simply be incredibly incompetent. Despite looking specifically for it, he may simply have failed to notice that the attempted murder charge was in fact there.
Hey, Harr-Supporter, I am aware that for Mangum's arrest in the 2010 case that she was charged with attempted murder. As you pointed out, I repeatedly stated that online. My point is that that charge was made for the purpose of justifying a high bail, like many of the other charges. Truth is that she was never indicted for the charge and it is not on her record.
Police and prosecutors both know that the attempted murder charge was totally bogus, as she was unarmed and did not assault him. The police lack credible evidence that she attempted to murder him. With what... her fingernails? Do the police even put a weapon in her hands? No! That much is evident by examining the arrest report. So, no, she has no history of attempted murder of Walker on her record, however, Reginald Daye does have documented on his record that he assaulted a female.
Now I suggest that you and Walt, and the Intern get together and try to draw up some document to get the assault on a female charge expunged from his record... however, be careful not to inadvertently engage in the practice of law (I wouldn't want you to have to go before the State Bar).
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
What justification have you given for having the charges dropped.
You unsubstantiated allegations do not constitute cause to have the charges dropped.
With regard to the allegation that Reginald Daye severely beat Crystal about the face and neck, you have not presented any evidence that said beating took place.
The charges against Mangum should be dropped because they are baseless. First, she stabbed Daye in self-defense and it was a non-fatal wound. Secondly Daye died after being electively removed from life support due to brain death caused by a botched intubation for treatment of delirium tremens (a potentially serious complication in alcoholics). Thirdly, Crystal did not take money or cashier's checks from Daye... the only thing Mangum took from Daye was a beating. Daye gave the cashier's checks to her.
That, in a nutshell, is why charges against Mangum should be dismissed. For a refresher, here's a link just for you: Click here for Re-enlightenment.
Thereby go ye enlightened.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Hey, Harr-Supporter, I am aware that for Mangum's arrest in the 2010 case that she was charged with attempted murder. As you pointed out, I repeatedly stated that online. My point is that that charge was made for the purpose of justifying a high bail, like many of the other charges. Truth is that she was never indicted for the charge and it is not on her record."
Reginald Daye was charged with assault on a female but the charge was dismissed by the DA and he was never indicted.
Why do you neglect to say that. That assault on a female charge has as much significance as the attempted murder charge against Crystal.
Why can you not see that. Rather, why do you deliberately refuse to see that.
You are reversing yourself. You were insisting you were not aware of an attempted murder charge against Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
"So, no, she has no history of attempted murder of Walker on her record, however, Reginald Daye does have documented on his record that he assaulted a female."
According to multiple sources, Crystal was charged with attempted murder. You were insisting she was never charged with attempted murder. You got caught in a lie and now you are trying to cover your butt.
SIDNEY, answer this, do not dodge like the coward you are. Why, in your mind, is it not significant that the assault on a female charge was dismissed by the District Attorney, which would indicate the charge was bogus.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
The charges against Mangum should be dropped because they are baseless. First, she stabbed Daye in self-defense and it was a non-fatal wound. Secondly Daye died after being electively removed from life support due to brain death caused by a botched intubation for treatment of delirium tremens (a potentially serious complication in alcoholics). Thirdly, Crystal did not take money or cashier's checks from Daye... the only thing Mangum took from Daye was a beating. Daye gave the cashier's checks to her."
If Crystal killed Daye in self defense, she has to prove that in court. Alleging an affirmative defense is not justification for dismissing the charges.
What it is in a nutshell is that you are a deluded, probably schizophrenic megalomaniac who is incapable of enlightening anyone.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Now I suggest that you and Walt, and the Intern get together and try to draw up some document to get the assault on a female charge expunged from his record... however, be careful not to inadvertently engage in the practice of law (I wouldn't want you to have to go before the State Bar)."
Like you, we have no standing in the Reginald Daye case.
I dare you to answer this. Why do you consider it insignificant that the Assault on a female charge was dismissed by the DA. Using your logic, that dismissal was proof that the charge was baseless.
SIDNEY HARR:
"That, in a nutshell, is why charges against Mangum should be dismissed."
The nut, in which shell this is contained, is your deluded, megalomaniacal, probably schizophrenic mind.
By what legal authority do you declare the charges baseless. You have less authority than AG Cooper, who found the rape charges against the innocent Lacrosse players were baseless.
Truth is that an arrest for attempted murder is on Crystal Mangum's record.
You cannot argue that away.
As for Mr. Daye, there's no need to expunge his record - to paraphrase Tupac, Only God can judge him.
SIDNEY HARR:
Let's do this once more.
The assault on a female charge against Reginald Daye was dismissed by the DA. That indicates the charge was baseless.
Why are you incapable of seeing that. Anyone with less than a 5th grade education could see that.
SIDNEY HARR:
Your call to others to have Reginald Daye's record expunged is another straw fisherman dangling a red herring which you have conjured up.
Why do you not admit that the DA's dismissal of the charge indicates the charge was baseless? Why do you try to make an issue of a criminal charge which was baseless?
You argue that the charges against Crystal are baseless and should be dismissed.
SIDNEY HARR:
Why do you continue to persecute a dead man over a criminal charge which was baseless?
Is that fighting for justice?
Only to a deluded, probably schizophrenic megalomaniac who persecutes innocent Caucasian men because they were not wrongfully convicted of raping a black woman.
Sidney: it [the attempted murder charge] is not on her record.
Walt indicated that his search included the charge on her record. You have provided no evidence to support your statements that the charge is not included in her record.
Your comment suggests that your earlier statement was deliberately false. You were merely expressing your opinion that the charge should not be included, but expressing it incorrectly as fact. The unfortunate rule is that all arrests--justified or not--are included.
The fact that she was not indicted for the charge is irrelevant as is your opinion (which incidentally I share) that she was overcharged with no credible evidence to support that charge in an attempt to increase her bail and put pressure on her to agree to a plea.
Your sarcastic comment that I work with Walt and Lance to get Daye's charge expunged is inappropriate. It is a straw man argument. I am not interested in expunging the charge. I seek only that you not apply a double standard. Crystal has some charges that are unfair. The same may be true of Daye.
I made a comment in good faith. You responded in bad faith--ignoring the substance of my comment and replying with a straw man argument.
I demand that you apologize. Your reply to me was inexcusable.
SIDNEY HARR:
Why do you continue to disparage a dead man over a criminal charge which was baseless?
Please provide details surrounding Daye's arrest for assault to a female, including the specific allegation, his relationship with the alleged victim, evidence used to support the prosecution, Daye's statement regarding the allegation and an explanation detailing the reason for the decision to dismiss the charges.
If you fail to provide this evidence, your claim regarding this aspect of Daye's record is limited to a statement that his record includes a charge of assaulting a female. Otherwise, you have no information as to whether or not the charge had merit. Daye is innocent under the law.
With no information, your statement is uninformed opinion.
Please provide the information requested or please make clear that you are expressing an uninformed opinion. In that way, your readers can decide how much credibility your opinion deserves.
Any subsequent statement that either states or implies that the charges had merit must be treated as a deliberate attempt to deceive your readers and will require an apology.
Sidney
I am the anonymous commenter who commented that
Crystal Mangum's record includes the attempted murder of Reginald Daye, felonious assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer and felonious possession of a stolen vehicle.
I was using the same shorthand you were using.
I now realize my statements were misleading. I had no intention of misleading you or the readers of this blog. I should have been more accurate:
Crystal Mangum's record includes charges for the attempted murder of Reginald Daye, felonious assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer and felonious possession of a stolen vehicle.
I apologize for any misunderstanding.
Sidney, you should consider a similar apology for your poorly worded statements.
Where's kennyhyderal?
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
Why do you continue to disparage a dead man over a criminal charge which was baseless?
Reginald Daye was an alcoholic who was intoxicated during a jealous rage and brutally terrorized and assaulted Crystal Mangum.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Reginald Daye was an alcoholic who was intoxicated during a jealous rage and brutally terrorized and assaulted Crystal Mangum."
You have no evidence of that. If you did you would be pushing to go to court to present such evidence.
That you proclaim it as evidence does not make it evidence. It only shows you believe you are above the law.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
Your call to others to have Reginald Daye's record expunged is another straw fisherman dangling a red herring which you have conjured up.
Why do you not admit that the DA's dismissal of the charge indicates the charge was baseless? Why do you try to make an issue of a criminal charge which was baseless?
You argue that the charges against Crystal are baseless and should be dismissed.
The charges against Crystal Mangum are baseless and should be dismissed. Just because charges against Reginald Daye for assault on a female were dismissed, it does not necessarily follow that it was baseless. The prosecutor may have dismissed the charge because the victim may have refused to testify out of fear and he may have realized a conviction was not possible. Get it... or is more elucidation required?
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"Reginald Daye was an alcoholic who was intoxicated during a jealous rage and brutally terrorized and assaulted Crystal Mangum."
You have no evidence of that. If you did you would be pushing to go to court to present such evidence.
That you proclaim it as evidence does not make it evidence. It only shows you believe you are above the law.
Go to Court? Hah. Why? The prosecution doesn't even have a case against Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Wednesday, June 16, 2010
Crystal Mangum did NOT set clothes in bathtub on fire!
After speaking with Crystal Mangum I learned that on the night of February 17, 2010, she did not set fire to clothes in the bathtub as alleged by the Durham Police Department."
This is one of your J4N posts.
You proclaimed that Police Corporal Tyler set the fire based on a lie that Crystal told you.
Why do you not admit that Crystal lied to you?
SIDNEY HARR:
"Go to Court? Hah. Why? The prosecution doesn't even have a case against Crystal."
If that were so, you would not be afraid to face the prosecution in court.
SIDNEY HARR(who is incapable of elucidating anyone, particularly himself):
"The charges against Crystal Mangum are baseless and should be dismissed. Just because charges against Reginald Daye for assault on a female were dismissed, it does not necessarily follow that it was baseless. The prosecutor may have dismissed the charge because the victim may have refused to testify out of fear and he may have realized a conviction was not possible. Get it... or is more elucidation required?"
You say the charges against Crystal should be dismissed because they are baseless. It follows logically that if the DA dismissed the charge against Reginald Daye, it was baseless. Anything else is speculation and conjecture.
Here is some conjecture you probably do not want. Perhaps the woman falsely accused Reginald Daye, just like Crystal falsely accused the innocent Lacrosse players.
SIDNEY HARR(the great non elucidator):
Did it ever occur to you that since the charges still stand in spite of your out-of-touc-with-reality ranting and raving, the charges are not baseless.
Or do you think you are above the law and that your out-of-touc-with-reality ranting and raving makes it so?
SIDNEY HARR(the great non elucidator):
Why do you persecute a dead man over a baseless criminal charge.
SIDNEY HARR(the great non elucidator):
Why did Crystal lie to you about setting her clothes on fire?
Did you check the truth of her story before you falsely accused a police officer?
I think not.
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Anonymous said...
"Crystal Mangum's record includes the attempted murder of Reginald Daye, felonious assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer and felonious possession of a stolen vehicle."
Oh,girls,
They wanna have fu-un,
Oh,girls,
Just wanna have fun....
Sid: Just because charges against Reginald Daye for assault on a female were dismissed, it does not necessarily follow that it was baseless. The prosecutor may have dismissed the charge because the victim may have refused to testify out of fear and he may have realized a conviction was not possible. Get it... or is more elucidation required?
I want facts, not your uniformed opinion.
Yep brutalized her so bad, she got chapped kips. Oh, and maybe one of her weaves fell out.
Hi-bleepin-larious
A note to one of the anonymous commenters:
You have suggested that the fact that the prosecution continues and the prosecutor refuses to dismiss the charges demonstrates that the charges are valid. You use this fact to "disprove" Sidney's contention that the charges are baseless.
I disagree.
As we learned in the Duke frame, the NC justice system provides few opportunities for defendants to ask the court to dismiss charges. The lacrosse case continued for more than a year despite "no credible evidence" to support charges. That baseless prosecution continued at Nifong's insistence, and the defense was powerless to require the court even to hear motions.
The NC justice system is not fair. The fact that the case continues in itself provides no evidence of the strength of the case.
If you wish to criticize Sidney's contention that it is baseless, I ask that you do so on the basis of the evidence available, Sidney's ignorance of the law and the lack of credibility retained by Crystal and Sidney.
Sid:
You must have missed this earlier.
On July 29, you promised to post the letter from the Bar at your earliest convenience. When are you planning to do so?
You have had almost a month. did you lie to your readers when you made this promise earlier.
Sid: To my knowledge the ruling [the dismissal of the appeal of the Duke lawsuit] is a matter of public record, so why don't you post a link to it.
I have already read the ruling. Another poster posted a link to it on another thread.
I did not ask that you post the ruling. I asked that you post your filing. That is not publicly available except through a PACER account.
While I know you are busy in your attempt to have Crystal's charges dismissed, I do not accept that you have had no time over the past 3 weeks either to post your filings or to summarize your arguments.
Sid:
You asked for a link to Crystal's April 3, 2011, mugshot. A reader provided a link. You should thank your readers when they provide information you request.
The links provided are copied below.
The mug shot taken after the brutal beating by Reginald Daye in the "hour of terror" in April 2011:
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8080106
The mug shot taken after the brutal beating by Milton Walker in 2010:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7068705/
A photograph taken by the DPD 2 days after the brutal beating and gang rape in March 2006:
http://johnsville.blogspot.com/2006/04/duke-rape-accuser-crystal-gail-mangum.html
Anonymous said...
"Oh,girls,
They wanna have fu-un,
Oh,girls,
Just wanna have fun...."
So do the lax boys.
Anonymous August 25, 2012 1:08 PM
Had you read my comment, what you would have read was "Did it ever occur to you that since the charges still stand in spite of your out-of-touc-with-reality ranting and raving, the charges are not baseless."
I did not say that it proved the charges were not baseless.
I was talking about SIDNEY's hypocriy, he persecutes a dead man over a criminal charge which was shown to be baseless but he says the charges against Crystal should be dismissed because he(SIDNEY) has ruled them baseless. This same SIDNEY has also ruled that the innocent Lacrosse players are no innocent.
Actually, he has no basis for judging the charges against Crystal are baseless. He bases his assessment on his belief in a lot of unsupported beliefs, such as his belief that the Rape charges were dismissed and DA NIFONG disbarred because of a vast carpet bagger conspiracy to protect the accused.
SIDNEY was blogging that Crystal did not set fire to Milton Walker's clothes, that the fire was set by a police officer as a pretext for charging Crystal with Arson. Crystal admitted to the police she had set the fire. She lied to SIDNEY when she told him she did not set the fire. SIDNEY took that lie and ran with it. Now he refuses to apologize to the police officer he accused.
It shows how incapable SIDNEY is of rational thought.
" Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"Oh,girls,
They wanna have fu-un,
Oh,girls,
Just wanna have fun...."
So do the lax boys."
The evidence generated in the Lacrosse case showed none of the Lacrosse team ever wanted to have any kind of fun with Crystal.
Maybe she falsely accused them because she was miffed.
Anonymous said...
Sid:
You asked for a link to Crystal's April 3, 2011, mugshot. A reader provided a link. You should thank your readers when they provide information you request.
The links provided are copied below.
The mug shot taken after the brutal beating by Reginald Daye in the "hour of terror" in April 2011:
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8080106
The mug shot taken after the brutal beating by Milton Walker in 2010:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7068705/
A photograph taken by the DPD 2 days after the brutal beating and gang rape in March 2006:
http://johnsville.blogspot.com/2006/04/duke-rape-accuser-crystal-gail-mangum.html
Thanks for addresses to the various mug shots of Crystal Mangum, but if you will notice, the one of her April 3, 2011 arrest is extremely blurry and out of focus. How can you expect to see anything in it? The photos in prosecution discovery that her attorney has withheld from her undoubtedly are much sharper images and give a better record than the fuzzy media alleged mug photo.
SIDNEY HARR:
"the [mug shot] April 3, 2011 arrest is extremely blurry and out of focus. How can you expect to see anything in it?"
You may expect to see nothing in it, which is not surprising since you choose to be blind to things like the assault on a female charge against Reginald Daye was baseless, but it is clear enough to show no evidence of a severe beating to the head and neck.
SIDNEY HARR:
"The photos in prosecution discovery that her attorney has withheld from her undoubtedly are much sharper images and give a better record than the fuzzy media alleged mug photo."
How do you know that the prosecution has photos which were withheld from Crystal? Did Crystal tell you that? That is, the same Crystal who lied to you about burning Milton Walker's clothes?
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