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Word count: 730It has been said that people tend to believe what is true that which they want to be true. This is the case with many of the commenters to this blog site… the Nifong/Mangum detractors and ill-willers, and the Carpetbagger Jihadist agenda sympathizers and colluders. The outrageous motion filed on October 29, 2012 in the U.S. District Courthouse in Greensboro, NC, which undoubtedly was meant as a mischievous fraternity-style prank has been overwhelmingly embraced as being an authentic and true Mangum-authored legal motion by those aforementioned detractors.
A cursory glance by anyone even remotely familiar with the Duke Lacrosse case of 2006 and its aftermath would easily conclude that the claims were not even intended to be taken seriously… yet, it was stamped and entered into the Durham civil case files as though it was legitimate. Those perpetrating this hoax did so in order to ridicule and disparage Mangum, and possibly to poke fun at her for her decision to take control of her destiny and legally represent herself.
Those responsible for the fraudulent filing of the motion in a Federal Court, however, do not realize the seriousness of their actions in using the U.S. Postal Service to mail the document which contains at least two forgeries. This does not represent a harmless joke, but it is a federal crime with dire consequences to those who authored and sent the legal motion. We’re talking F.B.I. serious.
The filed Motion to Intervene, which was fraudulently designed to make it appear as though Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser Crystal Mangum wrote it, mocked the state and the North Carolina justice system. The author(s) of the document had the audacity to file such an outrageous satirical Mangum-centered piece because the state and the media has laid the groundwork for such sophomoric behavior because of its slanted and singular rulings in the Duke Lacrosse case and the criminal cases against Mangum. The prejudicial reporting on those cases by the biased mainstream media has abetted in creating a circus legal atmosphere in which it is fair game to take pock shots at former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong and Ms. Mangum with impunity.
Considering the current case against Mangum for example, what is one to think when a medical examiner provides a fraudulent autopsy report for the purpose of charging Mangum with a crime while covering up medical malpractice on the part of Duke University Hospital staff… and when a trumped up larceny of chose in action charge is used to ratchet up the murder to first degree through use of the devious “felony-murder rule”? Along with the unjust disbarment of Mike Nifong and legal persecution of Mike Nifong, it is no wonder that the North Carolina justice system has become the laughing stock of the nation.
Although this filing was meant as malicious entertainment and was not taken serious by those well acquainted with Mangum, Nifong, the Duke Lacrosse case, and cases related to them, evidently one of Reade Seligmann’s attorneys is trying very hard to believe the motion is legit. Giving credence to the document as coming from the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser, attorney Richard Emery suggested that Mangum is “as delusional now as she has been from the outset of this case.” This statement by Mr. Emery is itself a rush to judge the document’s veracity, and in an unprofessional and malicious way uses it to viciously malign Mangum with accusations that are not supported by fact.
Although the article that appeared in The Herald-Sun did contained an error of fact in stating that the three Duke Lacrosse defendants were exonerated, it deserves kudos for publishing the article to let the public know how low those in the anti-Nifong/Mangum camp will stoop to malign them. Even though the article did not contain a quote or comment from Mangum denying any role in that filing, Ray Gronberg has assured me that a follow-up article will give her side of this bizarre occurrence… date of publication around November 2-3, 2012.
It is rare that the mainstream media will expose the hateful and evil transgressions against Nifong and Mangum, and my hat goes off to The Herald-Sun for its news article in unveiling the false and malevolent document, which might have otherwise gone unchallenged throughout the Duke case as being a truthful part of the legal dialogue.
LINK: www.justice4nifong.com/legal/cgm/blink/blink110112.htm
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1 – 200 of 530 Newer› Newest»So, Sidney,
Have you called the FBI yet?
So what else is new?
SIDNEY HARR presents anoyher compilation of statements that show he is delusional, totally divorced from reality, and probably schizophrenic.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
It has been said that people tend to believe what is true that which they want to be true. This is the case with many of the commenters to this blog site… the Nifong/Mangum detractors and ill-willers, and the Carpetbagger Jihadist agenda sympathizers and colluders. The outrageous motion filed on October 29, 2012 in the U.S. District Courthouse in Greensboro, NC, which undoubtedly was meant as a mischievous fraternity-style prank has been overwhelmingly embraced as being an authentic and true Mangum-authored legal motion by those aforementioned detractors."
There is no carpetbagger jihad. When asked to provide evidence, SIDNEY says the questioner is a victim of a jedi mind trick. That is very strong circumstantial evidence there is no carpetbagger jihad.
SIDNEY HARR:
"The outrageous motion filed on October 29, 2012 in the U.S. District Courthouse in Greensboro, NC, which undoubtedly was meant as a mischievous fraternity-style prank has been overwhelmingly embraced as being an authentic and true Mangum-authored legal motion by those aforementioned detractors."
What could be more outrageous than the frivolous lawsuit SIDNEY filed against Duke because Duke had the temerity to enforce on him its non solicitation policy?
Most people who commented on the motion expressed skepticism that it was genuine.
SIDNEY HARR:
"The filed Motion to Intervene, which was fraudulently designed to make it appear as though Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser Crystal Mangum wrote it, mocked the state and the North Carolina justice system."
As no crime was perpetrated against Crystal(Sidney has never provided any evidence that she was raped). Ergo she was not a victim.
And that she accused men of raping her after she was not raped, that establishes as fact she is a false accuser.
SIDNEY apparently thinks that DA NIFONG's blatant unethical, criminal wrongful prosecution of three innocent Caucasian men was not a mockery of North Carolina justice.
SIDNEY HARR:
"The prejudicial reporting on those cases by the biased mainstream media has abetted in creating a circus legal atmosphere in which it is fair game to take pock shots at former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong and Ms. Mangum with impunity."
What SIDNEY calls prejudicial was the publishing of evidence that the rape never happened. Let us also remember SIDNEY insists corrupt DA NIFONG did not conceal exculpatory evidence(that the only male DNA recovered from Crystal's rape kit matched a number of males but none of those men whom he had named suspects).
SIDNEY HARR:
"Considering the current case against Mangum for example, what is one to think when a medical examiner provides a fraudulent autopsy report for the purpose of charging Mangum with a crime while covering up medical malpractice on the part of Duke University Hospital staff"
SIDNEY has offered no evidence that the autopsy report was fraudulent. He has repeatedly said only a 5th grade education was necessary to evaluate the report, which shows 1) Sidney is a totally incompetent physician and 2) SIDNEY, for some reason, does not want to show what qualifies hin to proclaim the eport fraudulent, his own credentials as a physician.
… and when a trumped up larceny of chose in action charge is used to ratchet up the murder to first degree through use of the devious “felony-murder rule”? Along with the unjust disbarment of Mike Nifong and legal persecution of Mike Nifong, it is no wonder that the North Carolina justice system has become the laughing stock of the nation.
SIDNEY HARR:
"… and when a trumped up larceny of chose in action charge is used to ratchet up the murder to first degree through use of the devious “felony-murder rule”? Along with the unjust disbarment of Mike Nifong and legal persecution of Mike Nifong, it is no wonder that the North Carolina justice system has become the laughing stock of the nation."
The disbarment for multiple, glaringly obvious violations of prosecutotrial ethics perpetrated nby corrupt DA NIFONG in his wrongful prosecution of the innocent Lacrosse players.
SIDNEY HARR:
"...the article that appeared in The Herald-Sun...contained an error of fact in stating that the three Duke Lacrosse defendants were exonerated".
The Duke Lacrosse defendants were in fact innocent because in fact the crime for which they were indicted never happened.
It shows the mindset of SIDNEY, that he believes the Attorney General, a trained lawyer, who did thoroughly review DA NIFONG's case file against the defendants, can not come to a conclusion that they were innocent, that a non-lawyer, who has admitted he is unfamiliar with the evidence, can proclaim the AG's belief to be of no significance.
Like his brainless acolyte, KENHYDERAL, SIDNEY presumes the Lacrosse players guilty even though he can not give any evidence that the crime ever took place.
Sid -- Do you know the legal definition of "exonerate"? If so, please enlighten us.
Sid -- Who's the lawyer from Louisburg that Crystal's now working with?
Bull crap. Who embraced it being true? Bull! And another lie Harr......Mangum was quoted directly in the news today....over and over. She was interviewed! You are so full of it. You probably wrot the silly thing yourself in an attempt to keep Mangum out of court. What a loser you are.......
So nice to see that you and Victoria being quoted together again, You and the racist homophobic bigot.......a perfect fit for you two.
The fourth lawyer? Please.............
By the way, Mangum lied in the interview yesterday when she said she did not know, had never met nifong before the LAX false rape . She and her family had known him for years, going all the way back to 1992 when a member of her family was murdered and he was a prosecutor, The family talked about how she trusted him during the 2006 deal because she knew him.
I don't give a bleep whether Sidney Harr thinks the lax guys raped Mangum. Who cares what this clearly deluded racist thinks? The less attention paid to his dribble , the better
Here we go again..........same old racist Harr, same old distortion of facts. Falsely attributed to Mangum? Ok, how about immediately found to be suspect of fake by everybody who looked at it? There were NO news headlines that said she wrote it! None! No bias no jihad. Just an excellent story that quoted Mangum' denial. Yet Harr writes a damn biased blob title that says " falsely attributed" in it. Gimme break, Sidney, your bigoted worldview is pathetic
I again submit this document may, I say again may be a Madonna Constantine maneuver, submitted to get Crystal declared incompetent to stand trial. The only people who would not want Crystal to stand trial are the J4N gang and Crystal's friends.
I say again, the Lacrosse players who are suing Durham and Mike Nifong have no motive to file the motion. There is already overwhelming evidence that Crystal was not raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
I think Quasi on LS already has figured out who might have written the hoax motion.
I say again, one possible suspect in the filing of this motion may be the convicted felon(whose name I admit I can not remember) who filed a motion in favor of Crystal. SIDNEY cited him on one of his previous blogs.
Anonymous said...
"I say again, one possible suspect in the filing of this motion may be the convicted felon(whose name I admit I can not remember) who filed a motion in favor of Crystal. SIDNEY cited him on one of his previous blogs."
I believe you're talking about some jailbird called Riccardo Darnell Jones. I have no idea what sort of relationship he has with Crystal.
guiowen said...
Anonymous said...
"I say again, one possible suspect in the filing of this motion may be the convicted felon(whose name I admit I can not remember) who filed a motion in favor of Crystal. SIDNEY cited him on one of his previous blogs."
I believe you're talking about some jailbird called Riccardo Darnell Jones. I have no idea what sort of relationship he has with Crystal.
November 2, 2012 9:31 AM"
That's the one.
SIDNEY HARR:
Whether, if you do not like this, tough.
For you to call the treatment of Crystal the unjust persecution of an innocent person, you truly are the pot calling the kettle black.
In the stabbing of Reginald Daye, there was evidence of a crime, I say again a corpse with a stab wound. I say again, Reginald Daye, before he died, identified Crystal as the person who stabbed him. And you have provided no evidence that Crystal acted in self defense.
In the Duke Lacrosse case, there was no evidence of a crime. DA NIFONG made public statements presuming guilt on the part of members of the Lacrosse team, made public statements to undermine other fundamental rights, the right to retain counsel, the right to remain silent, the right to a fair trial. He DID conceal exculpatory evidence from them. He DID manufacture evidence against them via the improper lineup in which Crystal COULD NOT reliably identify any Lacrosse player as an assailant. To any one but an unreasonable, guilt presuming racist, it was a wrongful prosecution.
But you call it a prosecution conducted well withing accepted ethical and legal standards for a prosecution.
However, we all know how knowledgeable you are about the law.
SIDNEY HARR:
Cut out the Bullshit.
Bullshit is statements like:
DA NIFONG prosecuted on a charge of sexual assault which did not require DNA evidence to prove.
The evidence in the case has been sealed and kept from the public.
Crystal was probably the victim of a sexual assault on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
Give real, credible, concrete evidence that Crystal was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
Put up or shut up, as I used to say to silly chicken killy.
Amen poster. Put up or shut up Harr!
Ok since Kenny and Harr love to determine guilt or innocence themselves without a shred of evidence and only because they say it is so...........I now,say that Sidney Harr and his band of looney tunes wrote the false motion and filed it. Prove you did not do this Harr.
guiowen said...
So, Sidney,
Have you called the FBI yet?
gui, mon ami, No, I haven't called the FBI and do not intend on doing so. It was obviously a prank, but seriously illegal... and it mocks the North Carolina justice system.
If such fraudulent motions were to continue, then I think that some enforcement action should be taken.
Lance the Intern said...
Sid -- Do you know the legal definition of "exonerate"? If so, please enlighten us.
Not being a lawyer or having legal training, I do not profess to know the legal definition, but my layperson definition would be: "to declare to be legally innocent."
Have you been enlightened?
Lance the Intern said...
Sid -- Who's the lawyer from Louisburg that Crystal's now working with?
To my knowledge, Crystal is not working with a lawyer... she is representing herself.
Anonymous said...
Bull crap. Who embraced it being true? Bull! And another lie Harr......Mangum was quoted directly in the news today....over and over. She was interviewed! You are so full of it. You probably wrot the silly thing yourself in an attempt to keep Mangum out of court. What a loser you are.......
Who embraced the motion to be true? Richard Emery, one of Seligmann's attorneys for one. And, off course, all of the commenters on this blog site who were quick to jump in with statements suggesting that they believed that the motion was, indeed, filed by Mangum.
Listen Up, Everybody!!
Important announcement!
KC Johnson has recently posted a blog, after more than a month's absence. I was worried that my bud might have skipped the country in order to prevent testifying at trial. At any rate, I am glad to see that he is alive, and hopefully, well... even though he seems to have fallen for the Motion Intervention prank.
KC, my advice to you is to open up. Don't try to run and hide from the court. Just tell the truth.
Anyway, glad that you haven't fled the country and are still blogging.
SIDNEY HARR:
"KC, my advice to you is to open up. Don't try to run and hide from the court. Just tell the truth."
This from someone who has made a career of passing off bare faced lies at rhe truth.
SIDNEY,when are you going to post evidence which proves Crystal was aped on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
I know why you will not. You want one of us to persuade Donald Trump to pay you millions of dollars before youn reveal your evidence.
SIDNEY HARR:
"KC, my advice to you is to open up. Don't try to run and hide from the court. Just tell the truth."
This from someone who is desperately trying to keep Crystal from standing trial.
SIDNEY HARR:
KC Johnson has put his credentials on display for everyone to read. You are reluctant to reveal what, if any, qualifications you have to pontificate on serious medical matters.
What I saw on line was that you graduated in 1974 and completed training in 1975. If true you only completed an internship. If so, was it because you could not get accepted into a residency?
Over 95%, and that is a conservative estimate, of medical school graduates could find residencies in the 70s.
SIDNEY HARR:
"At any rate, I am glad to see that he is alive, and hopefully, well... even though he seems to have fallen for the Motion Intervention prank."
Boy are you a liar.
Well done, SIDNEY-minion-of-thr-father-of-lies-HARR.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Who embraced the motion to be true? Richard Emery, one of Seligmann's attorneys for one. And, off course, all of the commenters on this blog site who were quick to jump in with statements suggesting that they believed that the motion was, indeed, filed by Mangum."
How long have you embraced the lie that Lacrosse players raped Crystal Mangum.
"Not being a lawyer or having legal training, I do not profess to know the legal definition, but my layperson definition would be: "to declare to be legally innocent."
Have you been enlightened?"
Well -- I've been enlightened in that I now realize how little our so-called legal layperson actually knows.
"Exonerated" means "cleared or absolved from blame or a criminal charge"
This definition certainly applies to the LAX 3.
"Legally innocent" simply means that there is reasonable doubt about whether a person committed the crime.
Regardless of your belief that an assault occurred, there is definitely reasonable doubt that the 3 accused LAX players committed the assault -- even your buddy Kenhyderal will agree with this.
Thus, by your own definition, the LAX 3 should be considered "exonerated"
Lance said: "Regardless of your belief that an assault occurred, there is definitely reasonable doubt that the 3 accused LAX players committed the assault -- even your buddy Kenhyderal will agree with this"........
Two of them anyway.
Anonymous @2:29 said: "KC Johnson has put his credentials on display for everyone to read. You are reluctant to reveal what, if any, qualifications you have to pontificate on serious medical matters"................... At least Johnson blogs under his own name, unlike our Dr.Anonymous the race obsessed cardiovascular- surgeon.
KENHYDERAL:
"Lance said: "Regardless of your belief that an assault occurred, there is definitely reasonable doubt that the 3 accused LAX players committed the assault -- even your buddy Kenhyderal will agree with this"........
Two of them anyway."
Again you show what an unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racist you are.
Give evidence that Crystal was raped.
Allegations you have heard from Crystal and Kilgo are mot evidence.
Whenever I told Kilgo to either put up or shut up. He never put up, he never shut up, but he always backed down.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @2:29 said: 'KC Johnson has put his credentials on display for everyone to read. You are reluctant to reveal what, if any, qualifications you have to pontificate on serious medical matters'"
Yes I did.
"At least Johnson blogs under his own name, unlike our Dr.Anonymous the race obsessed cardiovascular- surgeon."
You again show how much you resent Caucasian men who are more accomplished than you are.
Unlike you, I write about factual truth, not non credible allegations from a proven false accuser, or unproven allegations from an unverifiable anonymous source, who cites anothe unverifiable anonymous source.
KENHYDERAL:
I offered to reveal myself to SIDNEY if he could persuade Donald Trump to give him $1 million.
Outlandish? Absolutely.
It was a lot less outlandish than SIDNEY's offer to reveal his credentials if I persuaded Donald Trump to give him $5 million(SIDNEY shows what his real problem is - like you he is a lot worse off than the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players).
Incidentally, you did acknowledge that I had a rather substantial background in the practice of medicine. How about you show what is substantial about SIDNEY's medical background. SIDNEY has sure been reluctant to do so.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Not being a lawyer or having legal training, I do not profess to know the legal definition, but my layperson definition would be: 'to declare to be legally innocent.'"
AG Cooper did say he believed the innocent Lacrosse players were innocent. So explain why they were not exonerated.
Considering the following:
1) Our legal system is based on the principle of presumption of innocence.
2) The prosecution has the obligation of proving the guilt of the accused beyond a reasonable doubt.
3) This means that the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the crime did occur.
4). You can not provide any evidence that the crime did occur. What you have provided are only allegations that a crime occurred, allegations from non credible sources.
5). The lineup procedure which you cite as justification for DA NIFONG's wrongful prosecution, was not properly conducted and DID NOT yield reliable identifications of any Lacrosse player as one of Crystal's assailants. It was not evidence that a crime had occurred.
You have not established that a crime did in fact occur.
So justify why you say that the Lacrosse players are not legally innocent.
KENHYDERAL:
"At least Johnson blogs under his own name, unlike our Dr.Anonymous the race obsessed cardiovascular- surgeon."
I was board certified in Cardio-Thoracic surgery. Vascular surgery in the US is a separate Specialty.
This from someone who considers SIDNEY HARR a distinguished, competent physician.
More about KENHYDERAL:
He did prove that "Iowigian" is a word.
He has not proven that Crystal was raped.
Yet he feels justified in presuming innocent Caucasian men guilty or raping Crystal. HUH!!!!
Anonymous 4:07, 4:08:
Please don't make fun of Kenhyderal. This is a very difficult time for him. He's very upset because someone said Crystal is planning to marry James Holmes.
Liestoppers has postings on an Amicus Curiae brief filed on behalf of distinguished, accomplished Professor KC Johnson, someone SIDNEY HARR tremendously envies.
Folks should compare it to the documents SIDNEY filed in his ridiculous, frivolous lawsuit against Duke.
Has anyone filed an Amicus Curiae brief for SIDNEY in support of his frivolous lawsuit against Duke. Was Crystal Mangum raped. The answer to both is NO!!!
Maybe we have a clue as to why SIDNEY so greatly envies Professor Johnson.
For KENHYDERAl, your boy Kilgo indulged in some very raunchy ad hominem attacks against Professor Johnson. I surmise in your mind they do not count because Professor Johnson does not buy into your guilt presuming racism.
KENHYDERAL:
If a prosecutor proved there was a 1000 to 1 Chance that a defendant was guilty, would you say that he had proven the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Logical rational people would say yes.
The prosecution's obligation in a criminal case is to prove a defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. To do that said prosecutor has to prove the crime happened beyond a reasonable doubt.
Crystal alleged a semen depositing rape. Forensic testing found no evidence of semen on the rape kit. You may disbelieve it, but that establishes a probability that Semen WAS NOT present of several thousand to one.
You seem it is significant that the test did not rule out the presence of semen with 100% certainty. That point is meaningless. The meaningful question is, how does that establish beyond a reasonable doubt that semen was present?
I ask this question because I know these questions make you uncomfortable and always make you duck(just like Kilgo) and hide until you can come up with a dodge.
What does it do to your ego that Crystal might be in love with a Caucasian - and calling that individual a Caucasian is not calling him a superior being.
Anonymous @ 3:45 said: "Yes I did".........Yes you did, what?
I believe the origional post was directed to Dr. Harr.
Dr.Anonymous said: "I was board certified in Cardio-Thoracic surgery. Vascular surgery in the US is a separate Specialty" ......Excuse my error.
Anonymous said: "For KENHYDERAl, your boy Kilgo indulged in some very raunchy ad hominem attacks against Professor Johnson. I surmise in your mind they do not count because Professor Johnson does not buy into your guilt presuming racism" ............. If you look back you'll see I was always critical of Kilgo's vulgarity. My opinion of him changed when he showed real concern for Crystal and for her children. His second hand account coincided with Crystal's recollections of the assault.
Anonymous @ 5:47 said: "If a prosecutor proved there was a 1000 to 1 Chance that a defendant was guilty, would you say that he had proven the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Logical rational people would say "yes".
........... I take this to be a slip, perhaps a Freudian one, on your part.
Dr.Anonymous wrote: "Incidentally, you did acknowledge that I had a rather substantial background in the practice of medicine. How about you show what is substantial about SIDNEY's medical background. SIDNEY has sure been reluctant to do so"....... Since Dr. Harr was in Emergency Medicine I took it that he would be familiar with cases such as Dayes'. Knife wounds are a common emergency. I assume these physicians are experienced in assesing such cases. They also no doubt have experience in treating alcoholics and also experience in intubating airways. But even to a lay person such as myself this case, given it's natural history, suggests the possibility of medical misadvenure.
KENHYDERAL:
"Dr.Anonymous said: "I was board certified in Cardio-Thoracic surgery. Vascular surgery in the US is a separate Specialty" ......Excuse my error."
Will you give up your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism?
KENHYDERAL:
" If you look back you'll see I was always critical of Kilgo's vulgarity. My opinion of him changed when he showed real concern for Crystal and for her children. His second hand account coincided with Crystal's recollections of the assault."
First, which set of Crystal's recollections? She gave multiple recollections.
Second, in other words, when he bought into your unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism, you believed him.
A lot of people believe the emails they receive from Nigeria promising riches, because said emails buy into their dreams of riches.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 5:47 said: "If a prosecutor proved there was a 1000 to 1 Chance that a defendant was guilty, would you say that he had proven the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Logical rational people would say "yes".
........... I take this to be a slip, perhaps a Freudian one, on your part."
As I predicted, you are ducking a question you do not want to confront.
KENHYDERAL:
" Since Dr. Harr was in Emergency Medicine I took it that he would be familiar with cases such as Dayes'. Knife wounds are a common emergency. I assume these physicians are experienced in assesing such cases. They also no doubt have experience in treating alcoholics and also experience in intubating airways. But even to a lay person such as myself this case, given it's natural history, suggests the possibility of medical misadvenure(you mean misadvenTure)."
You miss one essential point. SIDNEY never evaluated the patient directly. After the patient died of complications of the medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound, he reviewed the records. He reviewed the records incorrectly(he claims Reginald Daye was the victim of an esophageal intubation - the record he reviewed clearly stated a direct laryngoscopy was done and showed the tube was in the larynx).
No competent physician would have ever distorted the records he reviewed. No competent physician would have ever made the statements SIDNEY made based only on a record review.
KENHYDERAL:
From my earlier post:
If a prosecutor proved there was a 1000 to 1 PROBABILITY(edit - emphasis added) that a defendant was GUILTY(emphasis added), would you say that he had PROVEN(emphasis added) the defendant GUILTY(emphasis added) beyond a reasonable doubt. Logical rational people would say yes.
And:
The prosecution's obligation in a criminal case is to prove a defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. To do that said prosecutor has to prove the crime happened beyond a reasonable doubt.
Crystal alleged a semen depositing rape. Forensic testing found no evidence of semen on the rape kit. You may disbelieve it, but that establishes a probability that Semen WAS NOT present of several thousand to one.
The issue you are trying to duck is, does that establish beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime happened.
KENHYDERAL:
Establishing the probability of guilt as 1000 to 1 establishes guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Belief in the uncorroborated allegations of an anonymous unverifiable source, which allegations are a quote from another anonymous, unverifiable source, does not even establish the occurrence of a crime.
Why do you say it does. Because those allegations agree with the non credible, uncorroborated allegations made by Crystal.
KENHYDERAL:
My post at 3:34 PM yesterday was a response to your post at 3:03 PM. In that post you did not ask SIDNEY any question.
KENHYDERAL:
In the Canadian Justice System, could a prosecutor establish probable cause that a crime happened, let alone prove beyond a reasonable doubt that said crime had happened if all he had were and anonymous unverifiable witness relaying an allegation from another anonymous unverifiable source?
Anonymous @ 5:54 said: "Crystal alleged a semen depositing rape. Forensic testing found no evidence of semen on the rape kit. You may disbelieve it, but that establishes a probability that Semen WAS NOT present of several thousand to one".......... Can you give us a source for this statistic. Are you claiming a specificity of 99.9%
Anonymous also @ 5:54 said: "The issue you are trying to duck is, does that establish beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime happened". No, but very often reasonable doubt is unreasonable. Think O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony
Anonymous @ 5:38 said: said: "Will you give up your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism"...... "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
KENHYDERAL:
"
Anonymous @ 5:54 said: "Crystal alleged a semen depositing rape. Forensic testing found no evidence of semen on the rape kit. You may disbelieve it, but that establishes a probability that Semen WAS NOT present of several thousand to one".......... Can you give us a source for this statistic. Are you claiming a specificity of 99.9%"
Here is a link to an article which found that PSA could be detected reliably even if the evidence was gathered as long as 72 hours after the episode of coitus:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insitetestkit.com%2FRef11.pdf&ei=uj-VUKLiHIuw8ASGhoDIAQ&usg=AFQjCNGMrIABEOT-ljnmKSg7dR4CnYEpZA
Here is a link to a graduate thesis which demonstrated, among other things, that via test for PSA semen can be detected in extremely low concentrations in samples recovered from the female genital tract:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&ved=0CCQQFjABOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abacusdiagnostics.com%2FComparison_of_Rapid_Stain_ID_Test_for_Semen_RSID_Semen_Seratec_PSA_Semiquant_and_ABAcard_p30_Tests_for_the_Forensic_ID_of_Seminal_Fluid.pdf&ei=AEGVUJHbG4jm9AT-i4D4BA&usg=AFQjCNHyhXHgRS48cr36CvKhiDPauSRlxA
From this url:
http://www.semen-detection.com/PSA+AP-Sperm-.htm
"
A test for the presence of Acid Phosphatase (AP) was conducted. Acid phosphatase is an enzyme present in semen at concentrations of 20 to 400 times other body fluids. The presence of acid phosphatase is a presumptive test for the presence of semen and needs to be confirmed by DNA or the presence of a Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA).
A Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA) test was completed. The detection of the PSA on forensic samples is often helpful because it confirms the presence of semen even in samples that involve vasectomized or azoospermic individuals. The PSA is a glycoprotein produced by the prostate gland and secreted in seminal fluid at concentrations (from 2.0x105 to 5.5x106 ng/ml)."
So I can not provide any odds for you. But I maintain that failing to find PSA or AP on the rape kit excludes the presence of semen with a probability much greater than 1000 to one.
Now you tell me how negative tests for semen establish the occurrence of rape beyond a reasonable doubt.
Do you really think a Canadian prosecutor would file charges of a semen depositing rape against a suspect when there is no evidence of semen on the rape kit?
Again I remind you the standard even in the Canadian justice system is that the crime must be established to have happen beyond a reasonable doubt.
KENHYDERAL:
Maybe you can try to establish why it is relevant that the test for semen did not with 100% certainty rule out a rape.
I again remind you, even in Canada, a prosecutor is obligated to rule in a rape beyond a reasonable doubt.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 5:38 said: said: "Will you give up your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism"...... "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
Have you gotten help for the problems you have as a result of your dysfunctional relationship with your mother?
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous also @ 5:54 said: "The issue you are trying to duck is, does that establish beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime happened". No, but very often reasonable doubt is unreasonable. Think O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony".
You are again trying to duck the issue. The OJ Simpson cases and the Casey Anthony case have nothing to do with the Duke phony rape case.
Try again to answer, without dragging in red herrings. What in the phony Duke rape case established beyond a reasonable doubt that a rape of Crystal Mangum happened on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
KENHYDERAL:
The latest URL I gave you says that the presence of AP on the rape kit is presumptive evidence of semen and further testing must be done.
In a previous blog you yourself documented that DNA Security tested the rape kit for PSA and found the test was negative.
So, rather than saying it did not rule out the presence of semen, give a numerical estimate of the probability that semen was present.
I say, since you are taking the position of an advocate for Crystal, it is your responsibility to establish that a crime did happen. Since we are dealing with an alleged crime, you should establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the crime happened.
In other words, in the Duke phony rape case, not the OJ Simpson case or the Casey Anthony case, establish that reasonable doubt is unreasonable in this case.
KENHYDERAL:
From the URL I previously cited:
"The PSA test was positive. No AP was detected. No whole sperm heads were detected microscopically which may be attributed to the age of the sample or the contributor could be vasectomized or azoospermic. A RSID saliva test (HSA) was performed which was negative for human saliva."
So I ask you again to answer without dragging in red herrings, how does the negative test for PSA and for AP rule in beyond a reasonable doubt that Crystal was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
If a prosecutor were to argue that the tests were faulty or inaccurate, he would have to prove it. Merely saying that was a possibility does not rule in beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had happened.
KENHYDRAL:
from http://caribbean.scielo.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0043-31442010000300010&lng=en&nrm=.pf:
"The likelihood of finding seminal acid phosphatase in the vaginal cavity markedly decreases with time following intercourse, with little chance of identifying this substance 48 hours after intercourse".
Crystal's rape kit was taken within much less than 8 hours after the alleged rape.
And:
"A significant indicator of recent sexual activity is the protein p30. Under the analytical conditions employed in forensic laboratories, p30 is unique to seminal plasma and it is measured with a crossed electrophoresis technique. This protein is a useful semen marker particularly in cases of azoospermia (20). At appropriate concentration levels, this protein usually is not found in the vaginal cavity beyond 8 hours following intercourse (4). Occasionally, p30 is positive in the face of a negative acid phosphatase (21)."
Crystal's rape kit was taken just about 8 hours after the alleged rape.
So I challenge you again to answer without dragging in red herrings, did the negative tests for acid phosphatase and PSA establish beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had occurred.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Listen Up, Everybody!!
Important announcement!
KC Johnson has recently posted a blog, after more than a month's absence. I was worried that my bud might have skipped the country in order to prevent testifying at trial. At any rate, I am glad to see that he is alive, and hopefully, well... even though he seems to have fallen for the Motion Intervention prank.
KC, my advice to you is to open up. Don't try to run and hide from the court. Just tell the truth.
Anyway, glad that you haven't fled the country and are still blogging."
Another pathetic, attention seeking attempt on the part of SIDNEY to get the distinguished Professor Johnson to notice him.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 5:38 said: said: "Will you give up your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism"...... "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
So you admit you are an unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racist.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 5:38 said: said: "Will you give up your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism"...... "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
I categorically deny ever having beaten my wife. Have you ever denied being a convicted felon and fugitive from US justice.
Why were you so concerned with whether or not Dubai has an extradition treaty with the US.
KENHYDERAL:
http://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/usa/index.html#traites
Canada does have an extradition treaty with the US, although I admit there are certain scenarios in which Canada will not extradite someone to the US.
Is that the reason you live in Dubai rather than Canada?
KENHYDERAL:
If you were to deny you were a fugitive from Justice in the US, I would back off from asking you about it. I would, admittedly, be unable to prove it.
On the other hand, you will not back off on your claim that Crystal was raped even though you can not establish that said rape even occurred.
And you will not back off on your claim that David Evans assaulted Crystal, even though the only thing you have is a statement from anonymous unverifiable source Kilgo that another anonymous unverifiable source told him he had seen a picture of David Evans with a mustache.
Do you honestly think a Canadian court would believe this established probable cause that David Evans assaulted Crystal?
Can you answer without dragging in red herrings?
Anonymous @ 9:49 said: "So you admit you are an unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racist"...... I deny it. You twist my words. Only someone so pathologically obsessed with race would believe that I take the skin color, of those who Crystal accused, as being of any consequence. I believe Reginald Daye is Afro-American.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 9:49 said: "So you admit you are an unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racist"...... I deny it. You twist my words. Only someone so pathologically obsessed with race would believe that I take the skin color, of those who Crystal accused, as being of any consequence. I believe Reginald Daye is Afro-American."
I don't twist words. I point out evidence that you are an unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racist.
You are unable to show that Crystal was raped. You insist that it did happen and that the perpetrators were Caucasians.
I call that rather strong circumstantial evidence that race is a component, maybe the major component, with your obsession with getting the world to believe Crystal was raped.
KENHYDERAL:
You are again ducking the challenges which are being presented to you. Professor KC Johnson never ducked any of the challenges which were presented to him.
For that matter, neither did the innocent, falsely accused, Caucasian Duke Lacrosse players.
Denying guilt when you know you are innocent is not ducking the facts but standing firm on them.
SIDNEY HARR:
Here is something for you ro pondr.
I remind you, in a criminal case, the prosecutor is obligated to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. That means he must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime did occur.
DA NIFONG's statement after testing of the rape kit came back shpuld have been, we have no evidence that a crime happened, provided he took seriosly his obligation to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Instead, what DA NIFONG did say(paraphrasing) was, it does not mean that a crime did not happen, it meabs only that nothing was left.
That was a public, guilt presuming statement on the part of DA NIFONG.
How does a DA who makes public guilt presuming statements comply with published standards of ethics for a prosecutor?
KENHYDERAL:
Without referring to race, I ask you, what makes reasonable doubt unreasonable in the Duke rape case?
You concede that forensic testing of the rape kit did not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime ad happened. So how could the prosecutor have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that a rape had occurred?
The physical exam, I rephrase, did not establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the rape Crystal had alleged had happened.
SANE in training Tara Levicy's statement, that there were findings consistent with rape would not have established beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had occurred. All it established is that SANE in training Tara Levicy did not document any specific findings.
So what justifies your belief that some males are guilty of raping Crystal? Please answer without dragging red herrings from non relevant events into your answer(provided you do not duck again).
If one has sufficient wealth or notoriety, to retain a high powered attorney, guilty or innocent, one can easily raise sufficient "reasonable" doubt to "walk. This escape hatch for criminal behaviour is not often afforded to the ordinary defendant. Like former DA Nifong, I believe a crime happened because of what the alleged victim has told me. This account is corroberated by what was related to me by the person Kilgo who claimed to have received his information from an alleged eye-witness. I also take into account the observations of Nurse Levicy and Dr.Manley and the statement of driver Brian Taylor. Lastly I rely on common sense and because of my own experience as a University "jock". At many "Spring-Break" team parties "gang-rape" mentality, racism and misogyny are often rampant, especially by the sons of privilege.
Anonymous @12:39 said: "You insist that it did happen and that the perpetrators were Caucasians"..... Crystal said those who assaulted her were not African-Americans. Were there even any African-Americans at the party?
KENHYDERAL:
"If one has sufficient wealth or notoriety, to retain a high powered attorney, guilty or innocent, one can easily raise sufficient 'reasonable' doubt to 'walk."
How does that establish that anyone was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of raping Crystal? It doesn't. It is irrelevant to the Duke phony rape case.
"This escape hatch for criminal behaviour is not often afforded to the ordinary defendant."
That is irrelevant to the Duke phony rape case. Is the wrongful conviction of someone in an unrelated case relevant to the Duke phony rape case. Since it does not establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in the Duke phony rape case, it is not relevant. Why do you advocate injustice for the wrongfully accused instead of fighting for justice for the wrongfully convicted?
"Like former DA Nifong, I believe a crime happened because of what the alleged victim has told me."
What is in issue is exactly what false accuser told the authorities. According to police reports, her story changed each time she told it. When DA NIFONG had her interviewed her, 9 months into the case, she could not remember being penetrated. If what she told you after AG Cooper's press conference that she was raped, she had changed her story yet again.
"This account is corroberated by what was related to me by the person Kilgo who claimed to have received his information from an alleged eye-witness."
I say again, that is of no legal importance or relevance. It is not admissable testimony. It is hearsay. It would not be evidence unless Kilgo's Lacrosse player friend came forward and testified. Believe if you want, but this friend of Kilgo has not come forward in over 6 years, which is strong circumstantial evidence that this anonymous Lacrosse player does not exist.
"I also take into account the observations of Nurse Levicy and Dr.Manley and the statement of driver Brian Taylor."
What you do not take into account is that Tara Levicy's recorded observation that Crystal had injuries consistent with rape means nothing. She did not examine Crystal means she did not directly observe anything. It means she did not document any specific injuries. Even though her statement was used to get an NTO, it did not establish probable cause, let alone establish proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that a crime happened.
"Lastly I rely on common sense"
You have no common sense.
"and because of my own experience as a University "jock". At many 'Spring-Break' team parties 'gang-rape' mentality, racism and misogyny are often rampant, especially by the sons of privilege."
And how does your experience establish beyond a reasonable doubt that Crystal was raped on the night of 13/14 March 2006? It does not. It is irrelevant to the Duke phony rape case.
All you have documented is you have no rational, factual basis to justify your belief that Crystal was raped. So why do you believe Crystal was raped if not some animosity towards those who were falsely accused.
KENHYDERAL:
"Crystal said those who assaulted her were not African-Americans. Were there even any African-Americans at the party?"
As a matter of fact, Devon Sherwood, the only African American member of the Lacrosse team, did attend the party. Also, Crystal said her attackers were Lacrosse players and her attackers were white.
KENHYDERAL:
To my last long comment I add, Dr. Julie Manly did the physical exam, and she did not find anything that established probable cause to believe Crystal was raped.
The finding of whitish fluid in the genital tract is meaningless unless Dr. Manly had done a wet mount. An experienced Gynecologist(which Dr. Manly was not) or an experienced ER physician(which Dr. Manly was not) would have done a wet mount. One can not testify semen was found in the genital tract unless one had done a test to confirm the presence of semen.
Again, you have no rational factual basis to believe Crystal was raped. So why, really, do you believe she was if it is not some animosity you have towards the people who were accused of raping her.
KENHYDERAL:
You did not respond to my challenge.
The challenge was for you to justify your belief that Crystal was raped without dragging into your response red herrings. You dragged multiple red herrings into your response.
1) people in other cases have been wrongfully convicted.
2) you had bad experiences in college with jocks holding spring break parties
3) there are unscrupulous lawyer which provide reasonable doubt for a fee.
4) people can not afford lawyers - it does not establish guilt on the part of those who can.
KENHYDERAL:
"This account is corroberated by what was related to me by the person Kilgo who claimed to have received his information from an alleged eye-witness."
You define Kilgo's testimony to you as hearsay. Unless specific conditions apply(I advise you to look up exceptions to the hearsay rule) hearsay evidence does not corroborate anything.
You err when you claim Kilgo corroborated Crystal's account.
I ask which of Crystal's accounts did Kilgo's hearsay support(that's support, not coroborate).
Kenhyderal,
What you should do is go to Durham. I have no doubt you have plenty of accumulated leave. Civilian employees of the U S Navy, for example, get 26 days leave every year, and can carry over as many as 30 days into the following year. I'm sure the Canadian Armed Forces are just as generous.
Once you get to Durham, find Kilgo, and have Crystal's lawyer (Crystal herself, perhaps) subpoena Kilgo. If he won't give you the name of his lacrosse buddy, you can have him arrested for contempt. After he's spent some six months in jail (or is it gaol?), you'll see how eager he'll be to come clean.
Don't waste time; you have to do this! Ask Sidney to help you!
guiowen November 3, 2012 6:09 PM
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Kenhyderal,
What you should do is go to Durham. I have no doubt you have plenty of accumulated leave. Civilian employees of the U S Navy, for example, get 26 days leave every year, and can carry over as many as 30 days into the following year. I'm sure the Canadian Armed Forces are just as generous.
Once you get to Durham, find Kilgo, and have Crystal's lawyer (Crystal herself, perhaps) subpoena Kilgo. If he won't give you the name of his lacrosse buddy, you can have him arrested for contempt. After he's spent some six months in jail (or is it gaol?), you'll see how eager he'll be to come clean.
Don't waste time; you have to do this! Ask Sidney to help you!"
My guess is, if Kilgo comes forth and is told to identify his anonymous Lacrosse player friend under of penalty of being cited for contempt, Kilgo will not sit in jail. He will admit his Lacrosse player friend does not exist.
What will KENHYDERAL do then.
"A sarcastic person is a wounded person"
KENHYDERAL:
You must be really frustrated that no one buys into your unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism. Only a blatant unrepentant racist would find the term Caucasian anything other than innocuous.
KENHYDERAL:
I should have said, no one buys into your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism except SIDNEY, who is totally divorced from reality, and Kilgo, an anonymous, unverifiable source who cites another anonymous unverifiable source.
Kenhyderal,
Oh I am so wounded!
I give you good advice. But apparently you're more interested in talking about Kilgo than in actually doing anything that might help Crystal.
With friends like you, who needs enemies? Poor Crystal!
Guys -- Look at the number of Kenhyderal posts, and count the number that actually pertain to the subject at hand -- that is, the fraudulent motion.
Simply stop responding to his blatant logical fallacies, and I'm positive he will go away.
Since Sid is such a follower of the "Man from Nazareth", I'll leave you with this:
"But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."
(Titus 3:9-11 ESV)
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"Listen Up, Everybody!!
Important announcement!
KC Johnson has recently posted a blog, after more than a month's absence. I was worried that my bud might have skipped the country in order to prevent testifying at trial. At any rate, I am glad to see that he is alive, and hopefully, well... even though he seems to have fallen for the Motion Intervention prank.
KC, my advice to you is to open up. Don't try to run and hide from the court. Just tell the truth.
Anyway, glad that you haven't fled the country and are still blogging."
Another pathetic, attention seeking attempt on the part of SIDNEY to get the distinguished Professor Johnson to notice him.
Au contraire, mon anonymous ami,
I seek not you get attention from KC Johnson, I merely wish him well. That's just part of my makeup... I have no ill-willer DNA
I meant: I seek not to get attention....
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"The filed Motion to Intervene, which was fraudulently designed to make it appear as though Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser Crystal Mangum wrote it, mocked the state and the North Carolina justice system."
As no crime was perpetrated against Crystal(Sidney has never provided any evidence that she was raped). Ergo she was not a victim.
And that she accused men of raping her after she was not raped, that establishes as fact she is a false accuser.
SIDNEY apparently thinks that DA NIFONG's blatant unethical, criminal wrongful prosecution of three innocent Caucasian men was not a mockery of North Carolina justice.
In prosecuting the Duke Lacrosse case, Mike Nifong was merely performing his duty as a minister of justice. The mockery was not Nifong's action, but the action against Nifong.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"KC, my advice to you is to open up. Don't try to run and hide from the court. Just tell the truth."
This from someone who has made a career of passing off bare faced lies at rhe truth.
SIDNEY,when are you going to post evidence which proves Crystal was aped on the night of 13/14 March 2006.
I know why you will not. You want one of us to persuade Donald Trump to pay you millions of dollars before youn reveal your evidence.
I am not fighting the Duke Lacrosse case, as I have no discovery and the evidence has been sealed... I am fighting a much more relevant battle - to free an innocent victim (Crystal Mangum) of a vendetta prosecution.
Mark my words, the truth will win out and she will be freed... sooner rather than later.
Anonymous said...
Liestoppers has postings on an Amicus Curiae brief filed on behalf of distinguished, accomplished Professor KC Johnson, someone SIDNEY HARR tremendously envies.
Folks should compare it to the documents SIDNEY filed in his ridiculous, frivolous lawsuit against Duke.
Has anyone filed an Amicus Curiae brief for SIDNEY in support of his frivolous lawsuit against Duke. Was Crystal Mangum raped. The answer to both is NO!!!
Maybe we have a clue as to why SIDNEY so greatly envies Professor Johnson.
For KENHYDERAl, your boy Kilgo indulged in some very raunchy ad hominem attacks against Professor Johnson. I surmise in your mind they do not count because Professor Johnson does not buy into your guilt presuming racism.
WRONG0! I don't even know the good professor. But to be frank, I envy no man... it is not in my genetic makeup. There are some people who I admire, though, such as Mike Nifong, Gregory Taylor, and Hugo Chavez. But envy... naw.
Anonymous said...
KENHYDERAL:
You are again ducking the challenges which are being presented to you. Professor KC Johnson never ducked any of the challenges which were presented to him.
For that matter, neither did the innocent, falsely accused, Caucasian Duke Lacrosse players.
Denying guilt when you know you are innocent is not ducking the facts but standing firm on them.
It seems to me that Professor KC is ducking out by hiding out in the frozen tundra of Maine in order to keep from spilling the beans about his nefarious activities.
He's the one who's ducking. I say that instead of trying to shield the truth from everyone, he should open it up to the light of day... like I do. That's why I enlighten people, because I spread the truth. I don't try to duck it and file appeals against speaking in Court. If any Court in the country would like me to testify, I would be more than happy to... I definitely would not fight it.
Sidney,
It's 580 days now, and counting.
When will you actually DO something to help the poor innocent mother of three?
Lance said: "Guys -- Look at the number of Kenhyderal posts, and count the number that actually pertain to the subject at hand -- that is, the fraudulent motion" .... Well Lance it's a rather uneven fight. Since I usually can't distinguish one anonymous poster from another one I'm uncertainas to how many I'm debating with. I disagree with you that my rsponses are off topic, though. The quote from the "good book" is good advice for us all including you. We're all pretty much guilty of those things here.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Au contraire, mon anonymous ami,
I seek not you get attention from KC Johnson, I merely wish him well. That's just part of my makeup... I have no ill-willer DNA".
Another set of lies for which you get credit.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I am not fighting the Duke Lacrosse case, as I have no discovery and the evidence has been sealed..."
Well you have been posting, in spite of your lack of any evidence, that Crystal was the victim of a sexual assault on the night of 13/14 March 2006. The evidence was not sealed. That is another lie for which you get credit.
"I am fighting a much more relevant battle - to free an innocent victim (Crystal Mangum) of a vendetta prosecution."
Whether or not Crystal is found guilty or not guilty, there is no vendetta prosecution against her, just like there is no carpetbagger jihad.
"Mark my words, the truth will win out and she will be freed... sooner rather than later."
We have been marking your words for months. Why is Crystal not free if you are telling the truth?
SIDNEY HARR:
"It seems to me that Professor KC is ducking out by hiding out in the frozen tundra of Maine in order to keep from spilling the beans about his nefarious activities."
As KC Johnson has not been engaging in any nefarious activities, he is not ducking "spilling the beans" about such. What you call his "nefarious activities" is his activity in exposing the wrongful prosecution inflicted on the innocent Duke Lacrosse players for what it is.
"He's the one who's ducking. I say that instead of trying to shield the truth from everyone, he should open it up to the light of day... like I do."
That is a nefarious statement, because Professor Johnson publishes the truth. in comparison to your persistence in publishing lies, e.g. that the Lacrosse players were not exonerated of the crime with which they had been charged.
"That's why I enlighten people,"
No you don't.
"because I spread the truth."
No you don't
"I don't try to duck it and file appeals against speaking in Court."
You do not tell the truth.
"If any Court in the country would like me to testify, I would be more than happy to... I definitely would not fight it."
No court in the country would want you to testify because to testify you would have to swear an oath to tell the truth. Since you do not tell the truth, swearing such an oath is anathema to you.
SIDNEY HARR:
"In prosecuting the Duke Lacrosse case, Mike Nifong was merely performing his duty as a minister of justice. The mockery was not Nifong's action, but the action against Nifong."
Since DA NIFONG had no evidence to show there was probable cause that a crime had been committed, since he had no evidence to prove the crime even happened, since he manufactured evidence to get indictments against innocent men, he was not doing his duty as a minister of justice, he was mocking his duty as a minister of justice.
SIDNEY HARR:
"WRONG0! I don't even know the good professor. But to be frank, I envy no man... it is not in my genetic makeup. There are some people who I admire, though, such as Mike Nifong, Gregory Taylor, and Hugo Chavez. But envy... naw."
Wrong. You would not be trying so hard to get Professor Johnson to notice you if you did not envy him and his ability to blog and enlighten(enlightenment is something of which you are completely incapable).
Since you admire one of the most corrupt District Attorneys in American history and the corrupt dictator of a South American country, it is questionable you are capable of distinguishing between good and evil.
Incidentally you also envy the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players because Duke settled with them and Duke did not settle with you.
KENHYDERAL:
"The quote from the 'good book'("But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."
(Titus 3:9-11 ESV) is good advice for us all including you. We're all pretty much guilty of those things here.
What you call "genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law" is your frustration that no one rational will buy into your unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism.
@ Anonymous 4:21 whom I presume to be Dr. Cardio-Thoracic Surgeon: I find it hard to believe a person of your qualifications would label me a racist just because I believe someone at at the Duke LaCrosse Team party sexually assaulted Crystal. You seem to be completely obsessed with race and seem to be completely unable to have a discussion with me without throwing out accusations of racism. The race of the Players never entered my mind. I would really expect a person in a healing profession, when it comes to his fellow man, to be more color blind. I have noted when some post absolutely disgusting racist remarks about Crystal you are completely silent. Also, I find it troubling that you continually claim, anonymously, that you and the Duke Lacrosse Players are wealthier and more accomplished then I am. That may be so but if so, so what. Also your attempts at pschoanalysis are contemptible. A person in your position really should know better. There are scores of people lined up to attack Crystal; the Duke LaCrosse Players, their families and their high powered Attornys, Doctors like yourself, Professors like KC Johnson, a host of Journalists, a whole Blog of absolute zealots called Liestoppers which is dedicated to labeling her a liar and is published seven days a week and has been for the last several years. This seems like a very uneven fight.
KENHYDERAL:
"@ Anonymous 4:21 whom I presume to be Dr. Cardio-Thoracic Surgeon: I find it hard to believe a person of your qualifications would label me a racist just because I believe someone at at the Duke LaCrosse Team party sexually assaulted Crystal."
What labels you as a racist is your treatment of the innocuous term Caucasian as racist. Because you believe someone at the Duke Lacrosse party sexually assaulted Crystal when there is no evidence that any such assault ever took place labels you as unreasonably guilt presuming.
"You seem to be completely obsessed with race and seem to be completely unable to have a discussion with me without throwing out accusations of racism. The race of the Players never entered my mind."
The case became a racial issue because corrupt DA NIFONG made it one and because SIDNEY made it one. I do not believe the race of the players ever entered your mind.
"I would really expect a person in a healing profession, when it comes to his fellow man, to be more color blind. I have noted when some post absolutely disgusting racist remarks about Crystal you are completely silent."
Specify any post which made absolutely disgusting racial remarks about Crystal? If you are referring to the poster who stated no Caucasian would have ever wanted sex with Crystal, I remind you that DA NIFONG himself said that an exotic dancer like Crystal would not be his first choice for a sex partner. You have tried to pass her off as an impossibly attractive show girl, which she was not.
"Also, I find it troubling that you continually claim, anonymously, that you and the Duke Lacrosse Players are wealthier and more accomplished then I am. That may be so but if so, so what."
You yourself have said that you are not wealthy. What have you done to show you are particularly well accomplished? Believing people of any ethnic background had raped a woman in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary does not mark you as a particularly accomplished person.
"Also your attempts at pschoanalysis are contemptible. A person in your position really should know better."
It seems the observations I have made, based on your unreasonable presumption of guilt have struck some kind of a nerve.
"There are scores of people lined up to attack Crystal; the Duke LaCrosse Players, their families and their high powered Attornys, Doctors like yourself, Professors like KC Johnson, a host of Journalists, a whole Blog of absolute zealots called Liestoppers which is dedicated to labeling her a liar and is published seven days a week and has been for the last several years. This seems like a very uneven fight."
There were and are a whole lot of people who lined up to defend innocent men who were wrongfully labeled as perpetrators of a racially motivated gang rape. That includes all the individuals and groups you have wrongfully accused of calling Crystal a liar. What has tagged Crystal a liar was the overwhelming evidence that she falsely accused innocent men of rape.
If you think Crystal was raped at the Lacrosse party, provide evidence of it. Castigating someone who does not buy into your unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism is not evidence. Nor are red herrings like the OJ Simpson case(he was acquitted because a black jury did not recognize the evidence of his guilt) or the Casey Anthony case. In those cases, there was evidence behind a reasonable doubt that a crime happened. In the Duke phony rape case there was not and there will never be, regardless of your faith in an anonymous unverifiable source who cites another anonymous, unverifiable source whose existence he has never proven.
KENHYDERAL:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Liestoppers_meeting/topic/4986286/1/
This is a story about a woman at a Florida university who falsely claimed she had been raped.
What tipped off the police that the complaint was bogus were the inconsistencies in her story.
Crystal's story was full of inconsistencies, all of which are now a matter of public record.
This is only part of the evidence with which Crystal herself identified herself as a false accuser - except to such an accomplished person as yourself.
KENHYDERAL:
This also comes from Liestoppers, from a frequent poster named Quasimodo(although he has a user name, I doubt you regard him as reliable - so what):
What was in it for Crystal if the case were lost? Nothing.
If the players were tried and convicted, she could sue Duke (since it happened on Duke property). Duke would likely
have paid off big time, and let it be known that it had generously provided for her.
John Burness, the "tree-shaker", would doubtless have spread more money around town to community projects.
Duke would try and "buy" more goodwill.
The attorneys who helped Mangum sue Duke would be in for a big payday.
The community activists who would doubtless be in line for some of Duke's largess ("conscience money") would
doubtless be in for a big payday. (Should I include William Barber's NCCAP in this?)
In short, a great many people would have made money off a conviction, or even a plea deal.
Everybody was already standing in line.
THE ONLY WAY THEY LOSE IS IF THE PLAYERS ARE PROVEN INNOCENT.
And Duke/Durham had too much at stake to want that, both in PR and in material gains.
Ergo, the ANGER which was directed always at the players, and never at Nifong.
If only the players would plead, the checks would start flowing..."
The question is, when the players were exonerated, why did Crystal not sue in civil court? The Lacrosse players WERE exonerated, the conniptions of SIDNEY HARR notwithstanding.
KENHYDERAL:
Regarding the issue of racism:
The whole issue of race came up solely because DA NIFONG in public declared not only that a crime had happened but that it was racially motivated.
What motivated DA NIFONG was that he wanted to win the black vote by stirring up black on white racism in Duke's black population in order to win an election and enhance his pension.
Even if you deny your racism, the fact is, you are buying into a wrongful prosecution against innocent men which was motivated by racism. Like it or not, that tags you as racist, if for no other reason you refuse to recognize it as an incident incited by racism.
KENHYDERAL:
You say you never considered the race of the Lacrosse team members who were wrongfully accused of raping Crystal. Maybe you should have. They were targeted for wrongful prosecution because of their race.
What evidence is there that they were targeted because of their race?
First, DA NIFONG brought into the case the race card via his public proclamation that there had been a racially motivated rape.
Second, using your own argument, the Police investigators, who were controlled by DA NIFONG, made no attempt to identify the male DNA which was recovered from Crystal's person.
It was not because anyone was covering up for a rape that had happened on the night of 13/14 March 2006. It was established beyond any reasonable doubt(and your presumption of guilt does not constitute reasonable doubt) that no rape had occurred. It was because DA NIFONG wanted to conceal from the public that the male DNA his expert had identified did not come from those he had named as suspects.
KENHYDERAL:
Correction:
I should have said:
The case became a racial issue because corrupt DA NIFONG made it one and because SIDNEY made it one. I do not believe the race of the players NEVER entered your mind.
Please note that Sidney Harr has never admitted that he LIED about the timing of the LAX house demolition and its so-called "clandestine" nature. also please note that Harr has never apoligzed to the LEO he falsely accused of setting fire to Walker's clothes. Add to these lies (and many others0, his lie that Mangum has been falsely accused (by whom, sidney?) of writing the fake petition last week. I counted the posts on LS pertaining to the petition....there were more than 16 pages of posts. Guess how many flat-out accused Mangum? TWO! All the rest, from the second post on, questioned the authenticity. Yet Harr lied and tried to make it out as tho there were some widespread railroad attempt to blame Mangum. NOT true! to name a few more LIES harr has tole:
Daye was an alcoholic....no evidence of it.
Daye was a woman abusing man....no evidence of it.
Walker attacked Mangum....no evidence of it
Mangum was beaten by Daye.....no evidence of it
Mangum was not drunk and driving recklessly in 2002 incident....totally false, evidence shows she was plastered, got a level 3 DUI and reckless driving
Mangum was responsible for the first set of motions Harr filed.....Mangum and her attorney, Shella, denied this in court. Forged signature, harr?
PROVE TO US THAT YOU DID NOT SEND IN THE FAKE PETITION TO GET MANGUM SENT TO A HOSPITAL....IN ORDER TO AVOID COURT AND POTENTIAL IMPRISONMENT. PROVE IT.
Nobody gives a rip what Kenny thinks. Oh by the way, is everyone aware that another Mangum's pals, Matt M., is a convicted felon with a prison record? Nice company she keeps, isn't it.
So,since you are obviously in charge of Mangum's defense strategy, did you approve the new lawyer she is talking to from out of town?
Anonymous said: "The whole issue of race came up solely because DA NIFONG in public declared not only that a crime had happened but that it was racially motivated".......
Evidence showed that racial epithets were used. Your charge against DA Nifong is without merit.
yes, kenny, there were racial remarks made by a single white male....and by Kim Roberts. wow, big deal.....surely worthy of 30 years in prison! Nifong did, in fact, make a public statement in the news that there was a racial component to the supposed rape itself, implying that the white men purposely selected black strippers and raped one because she was black. For the record, the men asked the Bunny Hole Escort Service to send WHITE stripper dancers.....and, of course, no rape occured.....of any black or white woman. Nifong was out of one thing....Nifong. He wanted to get elected and the only path was with the support of the black community in Durham. He knew that if he prosecuted the men, he would get the black vote. Period. To hell with their guilt or innocence, Nifong just needed his race-baiting ticket to ride.....and he almost got it
Dr.Anonymous said: "What labels you as a racist is your treatment of the innocuous term Caucasian as racist"....................... It's a scientifically meaningless term except in the U.S.A. where it appears to be a euphemism for white skinned people. Categorizing people by their skin color seems to be an anachronistic way of referring to someone; like yellow man, red man, black man, brown man. I seen nothing wrong with using designations of geograhic origin ie Afican American, East Asian, Latin American, South Asian Middle Eastern etc. To me, as a Canadian, even the historic terms Colored People, Blacks and, Negros seem out of place in the 21st. century.
In fact, Nifong did get what he wanted: he was elected. Unfortunately he didn't realize that (to use Sidney's words) the jig was up when Meehan spilled the beans. Had he understood what was happening, he could have cut his losses and stated that he simply had no evidence and was therefore going to dismiss the charges. Bill Anderson, in fact, gave him precisely that advice.
Instead Nifong doubled down and changed the charges to those he thought would stick. As a consequence he and all his co-conspirators: Meehan, Levicy, Wilson, Gottlieb, Himan, found themselves out of a job.
Anonymous @10:00 said "yes, kenny, there were racial remarks made by a single white male". I wonder how Devon felt about this party attendee?
right, guiowen. he did get elected. what I meant with that statement was that Nifong didn't get away with his deception.....
Yeah, I wonder how the three falsely accused LAX guys felt about calls for lynching and castration made by the Duke community and the potbangers? I wonder how Dave Evans' mother felt when Houston Baker sent her an email and told her she had given birth to a farm animal? I wonder how Mrs. Seligmann felt when her son was falsely accused of raping Mangum....when he was NOT EVEN IN THE HOUSE. I wonder how the Lacrosse coach felt when the Duke Athletic Director told him it "was not about the truth" in reference to whether the men had or had not raped Mangum.
Mangum's LIES and Nifong's corruption spun a web that caught up so many innocent people and caused so much harm. He paid the price and she should have, too.
Hey, tomorrow....get out and vote your convictions. No more important responsibility as a citizen....VOTE!
Incidentally, here is a link to the open letter that Bill Anderson sent Mike Nifong in December 2006:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson161.html
I read the open letter again....He nailed it, didn't he, guiowen. I mean, Anderson flat out nailed it. Too bad the Fongster didn't pay attention and duck for cover before the truth stuck him in his amoral backside. whew!
Anonymous said...
Hey, tomorrow....get out and vote your convictions. No more important responsibility as a citizen....VOTE!
Anonymous, thank you for your civic-minded comment.
Anonymous said...
Please note that Sidney Harr has never admitted that he LIED about the timing of the LAX house demolition and its so-called "clandestine" nature. also please note that Harr has never apoligzed to the LEO he falsely accused of setting fire to Walker's clothes. Add to these lies (and many others0, his lie that Mangum has been falsely accused (by whom, sidney?) of writing the fake petition last week. I counted the posts on LS pertaining to the petition....there were more than 16 pages of posts. Guess how many flat-out accused Mangum? TWO! All the rest, from the second post on, questioned the authenticity. Yet Harr lied and tried to make it out as tho there were some widespread railroad attempt to blame Mangum. NOT true! to name a few more LIES harr has tole:
Daye was an alcoholic....no evidence of it.
Daye was a woman abusing man....no evidence of it.
Walker attacked Mangum....no evidence of it
Mangum was beaten by Daye.....no evidence of it
Mangum was not drunk and driving recklessly in 2002 incident....totally false, evidence shows she was plastered, got a level 3 DUI and reckless driving
Mangum was responsible for the first set of motions Harr filed.....Mangum and her attorney, Shella, denied this in court. Forged signature, harr?
PROVE TO US THAT YOU DID NOT SEND IN THE FAKE PETITION TO GET MANGUM SENT TO A HOSPITAL....IN ORDER TO AVOID COURT AND POTENTIAL IMPRISONMENT. PROVE IT.
Actually, Daye beat up Mangum on March 24, 2011... so badly that she asked a friend to drive her to a medical clinic for treatment. This is factual, and something that the prosecution has kept from the media and from the people.
Also, regarding the prank motion, I'm not going to waste my energies on that... and you can't coerce me into responding to it. I'm coersion-proof!
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"WRONG0! I don't even know the good professor. But to be frank, I envy no man... it is not in my genetic makeup. There are some people who I admire, though, such as Mike Nifong, Gregory Taylor, and Hugo Chavez. But envy... naw."
Wrong. You would not be trying so hard to get Professor Johnson to notice you if you did not envy him and his ability to blog and enlighten(enlightenment is something of which you are completely incapable).
Since you admire one of the most corrupt District Attorneys in American history and the corrupt dictator of a South American country, it is questionable you are capable of distinguishing between good and evil.
Incidentally you also envy the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players because Duke settled with them and Duke did not settle with you.
WRONG-O, again!
I don't envy him, as he tries his best, I'm sure to produce a blog site to the best of his somewhat limited abilities. Now I respect that, however, let's face it, his blog site is a little stale and boring... that is whenever he has chance to blog while trying to escape the law.
What I recommend is that instead of trying to hide his connections with the Duke Lacrosse enterprise, that he make full blown confessions about his relationships and activities... even if they may be of questionable legality.
If all else fails, then I would recommend that he goes to the nearest Ecuadorian embassy and seek asylum. I'm sure that Venezuelan embassy would accept him as well.
Hugo Chavez is one of the world's greatest leaders has he puts his people before all else. Wherein the United States, for example, the Republicans put profits of corporations and multi-millionaires and billionaires before the poor and the few remaining in the middle class that was wiped out during the Bush presidency.
And not too much can be said about Mike Nifong who stood up to the Powers-That-Be to justly prosecute a case that was politically, professionally, and personally suicidal. He displayed uncommon valor that is a rarity.
guiowen said...
Sidney,
It's 580 days now, and counting.
When will you actually DO something to help the poor innocent mother of three?
gui, mon ami,
I believe that freedom and justice is just around the corner. Be patient.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
Remember, Remember the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot!
I know of no reason
why the gunpowder treason
should ever
be forgot!
Happy Guy Fawkes Day! (... another person I admire.)
Sidney said,
"
I believe that freedom and justice is just around the corner. Be patient."
I'm in no hurry. I can wait until April of 2021. Can you? More to the point, can Crystal?
Anonymous said: "Yeah, I wonder how the three falsely accused LAX guys felt about calls for lynching and castration made by the Duke community and the potbangers? I wonder how Dave Evans' mother felt when Houston Baker sent her an email and told her she had given birth to a farm animal? I wonder how Mrs. Seligmann felt when her son was falsely accused of raping Mangum....when he was NOT EVEN IN THE HOUSE. I wonder how the Lacrosse coach felt when the Duke Athletic Director told him it "was not about the truth" in reference to whether the men had or had not raped Mangum"............ And race figured into this how?
Guiowen said: "Had he understood what was happening, he could have cut his losses and stated that he simply had no evidence and was therefore going to dismiss the charges. Bill Anderson, in fact, gave him precisely that advice. "... . Anderson and you, it appears, suggest Nifong should have lied to save his skin. One consequence of this would have been a benefit for the accused. If you're a person of integrity this course of action would not be an option you could opt for even despite the personal cost.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous said: "The whole issue of race came up solely because DA NIFONG in public declared not only that a crime had happened but that it was racially motivated".......
Evidence showed that racial epithets were used.
What evidence showed is there was one exchange of racial epithets at the party, between Kim Pittman/Roberts and a member of the Lacrosse team, an exchange which Ms. Pittman/Roberts admitted she incited.
"Your charge against DA Nifong is without merit."
DA NIFONG to ABC 11 on March 27, 2006:
"The contempt sho3n for the victim, BASED ON HER RACE(emphasis added) was totally abhorrent. It adds another layer of reprehensibleness to a crime that is already reprehensible."
KENHYDERAL:
The same quote(sans typos) from http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?s...ocal&id=4029749:
"The contempt that was shown for the victim, based on her race was totally abhorrent," Nifong said. "It adds another layer of reprehensibleness, to a crime that already reprehensible."
kenhyderal said...
'Guiowen said: "Had he understood what was happening, he could have cut his losses and stated that he simply had no evidence and was therefore going to dismiss the charges. Bill Anderson, in fact, gave him precisely that advice. "... . Anderson and you, it appears, suggest Nifong should have lied to save his skin. One consequence of this would have been a benefit for the accused. If you're a person of integrity this course of action would not be an option you could opt for even despite the personal cost."
Yeah, yeah, Kenhyderal, we're aware that your word cannot be doubted! What would we do without you to tell us how to think?
Oooooooo so now we have Sidney telling us that Mangum was beaten by Daye and taken to a clinic by a friend...... Well well well........isn't that just too cha cha for words! I assume Mangum is going to introduce all this astounding late breaking news in her defense. Can't wait bro.....
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @10:00 said "yes, kenny, there were racial remarks made by a single white male". I wonder how Devon felt about this party attendee?"
Wonder no longer. It is a matter of record that Devon Sherwood supported the members of the Lacrosse team.
What did she go to a clinic for? Pain killers? Oxycodone? Hang nails? What did he do? Throw a paper clip at her? And she went back, right? Wow must have been some beating........
SIDNEY HARR:
"Actually, Daye beat up Mangum on March 24, 2011... so badly that she asked a friend to drive her to a medical clinic for treatment. This is factual, and something that the prosecution has kept from the media and from the people."
Who told you that? The same reliable anonymous sources who told you that the fight was because Mr. Daye wanted to use rent money to buy booze? Or was it Crystal the liar?
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous said: "Yeah, I wonder how the three falsely accused LAX guys felt about calls for lynching and castration made by the Duke community and the potbangers? I wonder how Dave Evans' mother felt when Houston Baker sent her an email and told her she had given birth to a farm animal? I wonder how Mrs. Seligmann felt when her son was falsely accused of raping Mangum....when he was NOT EVEN IN THE HOUSE. I wonder how the Lacrosse coach felt when the Duke Athletic Director told him it "was not about the truth" in reference to whether the men had or had not raped Mangum"............ And race figured into this how?"
You should ask DA NIFONG who told ABC 11 on March 27, 2006,
"The contempt sho3n for the victim, BASED ON HER RACE(emphasis added) was totally abhorrent. It adds another layer of reprehensibleness to a crime that is already reprehensible."
Note at the time, DA NIFONG had no evidence that corroborated his statement that a crime had occurred. not even the results of the forensic testing on the rape kit, which excluded the occurrence of a semen depositing rape.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
I don't envy him, as he tries his best, I'm sure to produce a blog site to the best of his somewhat limited abilities."
Yes you do envy him because his abilities and credentials are orders of magnitude more impressive than the credentials you are reluctant to reveal.
"Now I respect that, however, let's face it, his blog site is a little stale and boring... that is whenever he has chance to blog while trying to escape the law."
Appealing a subpoena ordering him to reveal his confidential sources is facing the law, not avoiding it, This comes from SIDNEY who cites unreliable sources as reliable,
"What I recommend is that instead of trying to hide his connections with the Duke Lacrosse enterprise, that he make full blown confessions about his relationships and activities... even if they may be of questionable legality."
So just like you presume guilt on the part of the innocent Lacrosse players, you presume guilt on the part of KC Johnson. Why don't you like the idea of Crystal confessing the truth, that she is a false accuser who wrongfully accused innocent men of raping her.
"If all else fails, then I would recommend that he goes to the nearest Ecuadorian embassy and seek asylum. I'm sure that Venezuelan embassy would accept him as well."
A distinguished blogger like KC Johnson would not notice your recommendations, which is one reason why you resent him and are trying to get him to notice you.
"Hugo Chavez is one of the world's greatest leaders has he puts his people before all else. Wherein the United States, for example, the Republicans put profits of corporations and multi-millionaires and billionaires before the poor and the few remaining in the middle class that was wiped out during the Bush presidency."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Venezuela:
According to this article from Wikipedia, Chavez' party is guilty of the same kind of corruption you attribute to the Republican Party.
"And not too much can be said about Mike Nifong who stood up to the Powers-That-Be"
DA NIFONG incited racial animosity to win an election. You are right to say not too much can be said about that because the magnitude of corruption it revealed was greater than anyone expected.
"to justly prosecute a case that was politically, professionally, and personally suicidal."
That the case was "politically, professionally, and personally suicidal" is not supported by the fact that support for DA NIFONG rose after he made an issue of the case. When is it just to prosecute a case in which the DA has not established that the crime even happened? You always duck the question.
"He displayed uncommon valor that is a rarity."
How? By inciting racial animosity towards three innocent men he wrongfully charged with a crime which never happened? I do not think so. Other than you, no one else thinks so.
SIDNEY HARR:
"IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
Remember, Remember the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot!
I know of no reason
why the gunpowder treason
should ever
be forgot!
Happy Guy Fawkes Day! (... another person I admire.)"
This from the person who does not understand why men accused of a crime which did not happen are as a matter of fact innocent.
KENHYDERAL:
"Bill Anderson, in fact, gave him precisely that advice. "... . Anderson and you, it appears, suggest Nifong should have lied to save his skin."
Nothing of the sort. The poster and Bill Anderson advised DA NIFONG to tell the truth, that he had no evidence that the crime alleged by Crystal Mangum ever happened.
"One consequence of this would have been a benefit for the accused."
Why not should someone wrongfully indicted for a crime which never happened benefit from revelation of the truth?
"If you're a person of integrity this course of action would not be an option you could opt for even despite the personal cost."
You are obviously not a person of integrity, since, in the face which shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the crime never occurred, you insist that it did.
SIDNEY HARR:
"gui, mon ami,
I believe that freedom and justice is just around the corner. Be patient."
We have turned many corners since the first time you have claimed that freedom for Crystal was just around the corner.
Correction:
KENHYDERAL:
"Bill Anderson, in fact, gave him precisely that advice. "... . Anderson and you, it appears, suggest Nifong should have lied to save his skin."
Nothing of the sort. The poster and Bill Anderson advised DA NIFONG to tell the truth, that he had no evidence that the crime alleged by Crystal Mangum ever happened.
"One consequence of this would have been a benefit for the accused."
Why not should someone wrongfully indicted for a crime which never happened benefit from revelation of the truth?
"If you're a person of integrity this course of action would not be an option you could opt for even despite the personal cost."
You are obviously not a person of integrity, since, in the face OF EVIDENCE which shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the crime never occurred, you insist that it did.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Also, regarding the prank motion, I'm not going to waste my energies on that... and you can't coerce me into responding to it. I'm coersion-proof!"
KC Johnson was never reluctant to confront something he believed unjust. You show you are reluctant to do so. Why? Was it a Madonna Constantine type maneuver which you and your J4N cohorts tried to pull off to get Crystal declared incompetent to stand trial?
Incidentally, the phrase is coercion proof. Are you taking spelling lessons from KENHYDERAL?
Uh huh, sidney, right.......now we have you claiming that mangum went to a clinic after a beating by daye. and she has never volunteered this information before? and you didn't know about it? and you didn't post it online, right along with the PHI you posted illegally? and there was a witness to her terrible injuries? and the police were not called by Mangum even though she was beaten so badly? and she returned to the "scene of the crime" where this beating was supposed to have taken place?
right..........gotcha, sidney.
well, so far, the enlightenment continues to somewhow be, "forthcoming", like the black studies professor, wahneeeeeema lubiano's book...which has been "forthcoming" for what, ten years now?
still no explanation for the lies abouot the lax house demolition, harr. still now explanation for the lies about who set the walker clothes on fire. still no admission that you lied about and distorted daye's criminal record and the assertion that he was an alcoholic. liar.
where's the beating photos, sidney? huh? where's the big proof that Mangum suffered an hour of sheer terror? huh? still waiting, bro...tick....tick....tick.
SIDNEY HARR:
Where are the medical records from Crystal's clinic visit on March 24?
KENHYDERAL:
A repetition:
DA NIFONG was responsible for the failure of the Durham Police to identify the men who left DNA on Crystal.
Why would a man of integrity not go after suspects who left DNA instead of prosecuting suspects who, clearly did not leave their DNA? The obvious answer is, a man of integrity would have gone after those men who left their DNA.
If DA NIFONG had gone after those men, wouldn't they have been able to identify the Lacrosse players who had aided and abetted in the alleged assault.
Obviously DA NIFONG was and is not a man of integrity - except maybe in his refusal to involve himself with SIDNEY and his racist gang.
"I don't envy him, as he tries his best, I'm sure to produce a blog site to the best of his somewhat limited abilities."
Wow. jealous much? KC Johnson produced an award winning blog AND book, and you just can't deal with it. Pitiful, really.
Finally, I would think you'd support Dr. Johnson's fight against Duke University given:
1) That forcing an author to submit to legal interviews and give up his communications with sources could set a dangerous precedent that threatens journalists’ constitutional protections.
2) Your own experience with Duke University depriving you of your civil rights.
When is it OK to violate someone's civil rights (freedom of the press IS a civil right, in case you weren't aware)?
Comical really, isn't it, Lance....Harr posturing about DIW and KC johnson. Nationally read blog, best selling author, honored professor at an elite university....and Harr tries to draw attention to himself with his teeny little band of bigots and sorry racist-rant filled writings. whew, I betcha Professor Johnson is just dying to be like sidney when he grows up.
With regard to the question of freedom of the press and civil rights, I don't think sidney understands much of true meaning of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. If he did, he would demonstrate understanding of the justice system fundamental principle of innocent till proven guilty....in a court of law.....by verdict of a jury of (defendant) peers. He also demonstrates his lack of commitment to the truth of life, liberty and the pursit of happiness for ALL of us by his continued association with the known homophobic bigot, Victoria Peterson. I think his speech, choice of language and utter disrespect for our judges/courts was demonstrated in his Duke suit....when a federal judge came down very hard on sidney for his character attack on the judge who ruled on the suit, initially. Sidney believes he can accuse Dr. Nichols of criminal behavior and that he has the right to accuse Duke of murdering Reginald Daye. Such beliefs indicate contempt for the law and, clinically, a sick mind. He is to be pitied, perhaps, at best....and ignored.
SIDNEY HARR:
You now allege that Crystal claims she was beaten by Reginald Daye on March 24, 2011. Bad move, SIDNEY, really bad move.
It is on record that after her arrest, Crystal alleged she had stabbed Mr. Daye in self defense, as a result of a beating she was administered. Coming forward over a year after the alleged event with an allegation of a new beating is not credible. It undermines the credibility that she was beaten on April 11, 2011. I would tell you to ask your friend Professor Coleman but it is obvious he is not.
Further, if you can produce pictures of Crystal showing a beating, then you would have to prove that those pictures were taken after her 2011 arrest. It could be, some time before April 11, 2011 she was beaten by someone else.
Again, bad move, Sidney, really bad move.
Yep, I agree with you, poster. This is really lame and points up just how desperate Mangum must be.....to be making up stories about a prior Daye beating when she is on record, commenting about how wonderful and kind he was to her and the children. Remember, she had only been shacking up with him a relatively short time.....yet we are to believe she was beaten on March 24, returned to the relationship, didn't call police, didn't press charges, and three weeks later, still living with Daye, she gets drunk with him and has another brawl with him??? and, more than a year later, suddenly this news of a prior attack comes forward?
completely totally utterly noncredible and shameful......
KENHYDERAL:
DA NIFONG's statement on March 27, 2006, to ABC11 was the FIRST, I say again, the FIRST public statement he ever made about that case.
At that point in the case, a DA who was a man of integrity, would have said only, there was a reported crime, we are investigating, and information will be forthcoming.
Ben Rothlisberger was alleged to have sexually assauted a woman in Milledgeville, GA. What the DA said early in the case that only the investigation was ongoing.
SIDNEY HARR:
And you claim you have not done anything to undermine Crystal's defense.
You are really totally divorced from reality.
Kenny, your innocent mother of three is now claiming, via harr, that she was beaten by Mr. daye in March....and that, after going to a clinic for treatment, she was till shacked up with him with her kid(s).....drinking with him, and, in April, having another brawl with him. harr now claims this all happened......in 2011.....and not ONE WORD of it has come forward from Mangum or Harr, prior. please explain to all of us how it is that an innocent mother of three would set fire to clothing, brawl with Walker, get drunk, screw men for money, get beat up one month after shacking up with a guy, return to the scene of the beating, with her brood, get drunk, and brawl with this same attacker. Your definition of a "good mother" and an "innocent mother of three" maybe applies in Dubai or the Yukon........
sidney, where's the photos of all this terrible beating? where's the clinic documentation? surely you have no problem posting Mangum PHI, since you violated federal law and posted Reginald Daye's PHI.
by the way, another lie .....you continue to claim the LAX case records were sealed. This is a LIE. The only sealed records were Mangum mental health records. Liar
Lying about an after-the-fact beating, at this point, is a stupid and totally ignorant thing for Mangum-Harr, the nightmare team, to do. If Mangum was beaten by Daye, on that date, she would have to answer MANY questions about circumstances, etc.....and why she didn't call the police, why she took up with him again, why she hasn't mentioned any of this before, etc. frankly, I think the prosecutors will have a field day with this....... Mangum has a history of visiting area hospitals, with all kinds of complaints, solely for the purpose of obtaining drugs. Is this more of the same and she will try, now, to claim she was beat up and needed pain pills? please, sidney, consider the damage you and Mangum are doing by creating these lies.....
SIDNEY HARR:
Either you are in the library looking at Honey Boo Boo's facebook page and obsessing with her, or you are hiding away in a snit because the distinguished Professor KC Johnson will not notice you.
KENHYDERAL:
You must be huddling somewhere trying to figure out how you can cover up your latest misrepresentation of fact, that DA NIFONG did not turn the Lacrosse case into a racially charged issue. Either that or you are resenting Caucasian men who are better off or more accomplished than you are.
Sid:
It is time that you teach the naysayers a lesson.
Post as soon as possible the photographs that you have promised show the horrific injuries Daye inflicted on Crystal and post as soon as possible the medical records for the March 24 clinic treatment.
Crystal has been acting as here own attorney for almost three weeks. I cannot understand why you have been so slow in providing this information.
Stop wasting time. Crystal's freedom is at stake.
Oh yes, by all means, sidney, post the personal medical information for Mangum. You know, the federally protected PHI, like you illegally posted for Mr. Daye, in violation of a federal law. (HIPPA). Yes, by all means, we can't wait. Oh, and get the clinic to give you the medical records of her treatment there. I am just sure they will turn over all the records to you. Or perhaps attorney Mangum will get the records and give them to you of HER treatment. Perhaps then we can all see these horrible pictures. I, for one, just absolutely cannot wait! After all, what's a little federal law violation here and there......
And, of course, we will all look forward to hearing the explanations (translated, lies) of how this mysterious March beating happened, who took her to a clinica, when/where, and why she didn'at file charges, and why she shacked up with Daye, after, as I recall from the quotes from her in the paper, this supposed beating took place. Oh, and of course, she is going to be able to prove it was Daye who beat her up, if it happened.........which might be kinda tough to do, given her, uh, professional activities that routinely involved really friendly relationships with lots of men. (and likely women, too)
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
You now allege that Crystal claims she was beaten by Reginald Daye on March 24, 2011. Bad move, SIDNEY, really bad move.
It is on record that after her arrest, Crystal alleged she had stabbed Mr. Daye in self defense, as a result of a beating she was administered. Coming forward over a year after the alleged event with an allegation of a new beating is not credible. It undermines the credibility that she was beaten on April 11, 2011. I would tell you to ask your friend Professor Coleman but it is obvious he is not.
Further, if you can produce pictures of Crystal showing a beating, then you would have to prove that those pictures were taken after her 2011 arrest. It could be, some time before April 11, 2011 she was beaten by someone else.
Again, bad move, Sidney, really bad move.
Au contraire, mon anonymous ami.
Do you think I would make such a claim if I could not back it up? She was beaten up by Daye and as a result, she phoned a friend who then took her to a medical clinic. The friend stated that her face and arm were swollen and that the doctor wrote that she had bruises and scars. I can even give you the location of the clinic where she went. This information is from prosecution discovery that the prosecutors and Mangum's two former attorneys both had access to and never mentioned.
I will bring forth the documentation shortly. I already presented it to the mainstream media.
Post as soon as possible the photographs that you have promised show the horrific injuries Daye inflicted on Crystal and post as soon as possible the medical records for the March 24 clinic treatment.
Crystal has been acting as here own attorney for almost three weeks. I cannot understand why you have been so slow in providing this information.
Stop wasting time. Crystal's freedom is at stake.
Break, I do not know if I have possession of the clinic medical records. I do have possession of statements from the friend who took her to the clinic on March 24, 2011, and I will post it soon.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Do you think I would make such a claim if I could not back it up?"
Yes, since you have made such claims before and failed to back them up.
"She was beaten up by Daye and as a result, she phoned a friend who then took her to a medical clinic. The friend stated that her face and arm were swollen and that the doctor wrote that she had bruises and scars. I can even give you the location of the clinic where she went. This information is from prosecution discovery that the prosecutors and Mangum's two former attorneys both had access to and never mentioned."
Maybe it was because the claims were not believed. When did Crystal exactly make the claims?
"I will bring forth the documentation shortly. I already presented it to the mainstream media."
So let's see what the mainstream media says. It seems illogical that you, who distrust the mainstream media, would give the information to the media before posting it on your blog.
SIDNEY HARR:
"She was beaten up by Daye and as a result, she phoned a friend who then took her to a medical clinic. The friend stated that her face and arm were swollen and that the doctor wrote that she had bruises and scars."
Did the doctor record that she had fresh scars and bruises. I have scars on my head that are more than ten years old.
SIDNEY HARR:
"This information is from prosecution discovery that the prosecutors and Mangum's two former attorneys both had access to and never mentioned."
So, where are the photographs which document Crystal was beaten on April 11, 2011. So far, that is a claim you have made but have not backed up.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Break, I do not know if I have possession of the clinic medical records."
A competent physician would not have made such a statement without first checking the medical records.
SIDNEY HARR:
" I do have possession of statements from the friend who took her to the clinic on March 24, 2011, and I will post it soon."
If you do not post the medical records, those statements mean nothing.
Bull shit Harr. Total bull SHIT. The mk ultra sex slave is full of it and so are you pal
Sidney,
It is extremely important that you go with your witness to Eric Holder. Do not waste time!
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"Do you think I would make such a claim if I could not back it up?"
Yes, since you have made such claims before and failed to back them up.
"She was beaten up by Daye and as a result, she phoned a friend who then took her to a medical clinic. The friend stated that her face and arm were swollen and that the doctor wrote that she had bruises and scars. I can even give you the location of the clinic where she went. This information is from prosecution discovery that the prosecutors and Mangum's two former attorneys both had access to and never mentioned."
Maybe it was because the claims were not believed. When did Crystal exactly make the claims?
"I will bring forth the documentation shortly. I already presented it to the mainstream media."
So let's see what the mainstream media says. It seems illogical that you, who distrust the mainstream media, would give the information to the media before posting it on your blog.
First of all, the March 24, 2011 abuse incident was one that I came upon while going through prosecution discovery. The statements came from a friend of Crystal who took her for medical treatment shortly after the incident. I do not know whether the prosecution obtained medical records of her visit for treatment.
As far as the mainstream media goes, my feelings towards it has not changed, however, I plan on using the documents in an upcoming flog, so that is why I have not as yet posted them on the blog site.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"She was beaten up by Daye and as a result, she phoned a friend who then took her to a medical clinic. The friend stated that her face and arm were swollen and that the doctor wrote that she had bruises and scars."
Did the doctor record that she had fresh scars and bruises. I have scars on my head that are more than ten years old.
I only know that she was taken to a clinic on March 24, 2011 by a friend. I have not as yet come across any medical records of the visit... and I do not know whether or not prosecution attempted to get copies of medical records of that visit. The prosecution should have tried to get the clinic medical records.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
" I do have possession of statements from the friend who took her to the clinic on March 24, 2011, and I will post it soon."
If you do not post the medical records, those statements mean nothing.
The friend's statement acknowledges that on March 24, 2011, he took Mangum to a clinic after she was beaten up by Daye. Per his observations, Ms. Mangum's face and arms were swollen.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I only know that she was taken to a clinic on March 24, 2011 by a friend. I have not as yet come across any medical records of the visit..."
An axiom of medical record keeping is, if it is not documented, it did not happen.
"and I do not know whether or not prosecution attempted to get copies of medical records of that visit. The prosecution should have tried to get the clinic medical records."
Why? How was that allegation relevant to the Reginald Daye stabbing?
Castigate Chris Shella and Woody Vann if you must, but the defense attorneys for the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players would have gotten the records had they felt they were relevant. Look at the effort they made to get the exculpatory evidence DA NIFONG tried to conceal from them.
Did Crystal ever mention the incident to her previous attorneys? If so, that would explain why they did not try to get the files.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
First of all, the March 24, 2011 abuse incident was one that I came upon while going through prosecution discovery. The statements came from a friend of Crystal who took her for medical treatment shortly after the incident. I do not know whether the prosecution obtained medical records of her visit for treatment."
That would indicate that the prosecution did not consider the statement of the friend of Crystal credible. If it was some friend of Crystal like yourself, that is understandable. I admit, if I were the prosecution, I would have sought records, if for no other reason to discredit them. Like in the Lacrosse case, one would expect DA NIFONG to have wanted to see exculpatory evidence the defense had so he could have had a chance to discredit it. He refused to look at exculpatory evidence.
"As far as the mainstream media goes, my feelings towards it has not changed, however, I plan on using the documents in an upcoming flog, so that is why I have not as yet posted them on the blog site."
As I predicted you are going to distort the info you have to make a case for Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
"The friend's statement acknowledges that on March 24, 2011, he took Mangum to a clinic after she was beaten up by Daye. Per his observations, Ms. Mangum's face and arms were swollen."
How does that establish that Crystal was beaten on April 11, 2011. Unless you can establish as fact that Crystal was beaten by Mr. Daye on March 24, you have compromised Crystal's defense. You have raised the possibility that any pictures you show of Crystal with facial and neck injuries were taken before April 1, 2011.
Bad move, SIDNEY, real bad move.
SIDNEY HARR:
I am about to go on vacation the next two weeks, so you can for a time post your blather without worrying how I will expose you as being totally divorced from reality>
Tell your acolyte, KENHYDERAL. He's the fellow who, after decrying all the supposed ad hominem attacks directed against him, posted a comment which implied I was a wife beater. He did this because I would not buy into his unreasonable, guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism.
Sidney,
Important point: When you obtain the photographs of Crystal's beating, please make certain that they are time-stamped to show that they were taken on April 3 or 4. Otherwise some of these naysayers are liable to suggest that they were taken after the March 24 beating.
It's a good thing, isn't it, that you have Break and me to give you advice on important points such as this?
Good luck!
Sidney,
Another point: when Crystal's friend testifies that she was beaten on March 24, it would be best if he could say that he was physically present when Reginald was beating Crystal. Otherwise the naysayers are liable to say that this is just hearsay evidence.
Dr.Anonymous (I presume) @ 7:43 said " Tell your acolyte, KENHYDERAL. He's the fellow who, after decrying all the supposed ad hominem attacks directed against him, posted a comment which implied I was a wife beater"........................ You know, for a Cardio-Thoracic Surgeon, you seem to be awfully dense. Were you really unable to recognize this, clichéd, standard rhetorical tool used in response to a fallacious loaded question such as the one you directed to me. Have a good vacation. Perhaps it will give you some time to reflect on the jaundiced way you see the world.
Sidney harr and mangum are lying......again. Liars.
since mangum is representing herself, she should have no problem at all obtaining her own medical records from the clinic that she supposedly visited in March. she can also compel the people who treated her at the clinic to testify, isn't that correct,Lance? And the mystery witness (another one, no doubt) who took her to the clinic can be made to testify. Of course, the prosecution will have access to these records and they will cross examine the medical staff from the clinic.
I can't wait to see these mystery photos of the April beating and, of course, the march beating.
hmmmmm, bro, why did mangum fail to call the police? why did she return to daye's apartment and shack up with him again after he beat her? why did the innocent mother of three expose her children to this obviously violent man? why has mangum waited all this time to remember this other march beating?
Anonymous 12:29 said:
"why has mangum waited all this time to remember this other march beating?"
Obviously, he beat her so hard that she forgot about it. She woke up in the clinic wondering why she was there: what truck ran her over?
In her "Wives with Knives" interview, Mangum described her relationship with Daye as follows:
“Honestly, it was the best relationship I had ever been in.”
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/07/15/2196533/mangum-stabbing-was-self-defense.html
Harr claimed: Actually, Daye beat up Mangum on March 24, 2011... so badly that she asked a friend to drive her to a medical clinic for treatment. This is factual, and something that the prosecution has kept from the media and from the people.
It appears that Mangum has also kept this from the media and from the people. Why?
KENHYDERAL:
"You know, for a Cardio-Thoracic Surgeon, you seem to be awfully dense."
You really envy me because I am more accomplished than you are, don't you.
"Were you really unable to recognize this, clichéd, standard rhetorical tool used in response to a fallacious loaded question such as the one you directed to me."
You implied I was a wife beater because I would not buy into your unreasonable blatant unrepentant racism.
"Have a good vacation. Perhaps it will give you some time to reflect on the jaundiced way you see the world."
How much will you reflect on DA NIFONG's statement to ABC 11, by which he injected race into the Duke phony rape case? He made that statement before he had any knowledge of any facts in the case.
KENHYDERAL:
I said:
"Will you give up your unreasonable guilt presuming blatant unrepentant racism"
You responded:
"Have you stopped beating your wife?"
You implied I was a wife beater because I do not buy into your unreasonable unrepentant blatant guilt presuming racism.
Lance, Guiowen, Break, etc help the poor Dr. out he still doesn't get it.
Dr. Anonymous said: "You really envy me because I am more accomplished than you are, don't you"............. Don't be so insecure.
KENHYDERAL:
"Dr. Anonymous said: "You really envy me because I am more accomplished than you are, don't you"............. Don't be so insecure."
This Psychological phenomenon is called Projection.
From Wikipedia:
"Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people."
KENHYDERAL:
"Lance, Guiowen, Break, etc help the poor Dr. out he still doesn't get it."
By all means help the poor Dr. Harr(who is the only poor Dr. who posts on this blog) out. He hasn't gotten it yet, that the Duke Lacrosse defendants are innocent.
KENHYDERA will now respond with another impotent remark about Dr. Anonymous.
my suggestion is that all of us ignore the backend of this jack ass, kenny. he has deep seated issues ...who gives a flying rip what this racist thinks. stay in dubai and fall in love with some woman you can push around, kenny.......
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