justice4nifong: Mainstream Media - An important cog in the Durham prosecutors' wheel of conspiracy against Crystal Mangum

Saturday, April 6, 2013

Mainstream Media - An important cog in the Durham prosecutors' wheel of conspiracy against Crystal Mangum

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PART TWO

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Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Mainstream Media - An important cog in the Durham prosecutors' wheel of conspiracy against Crystal Mangum"

False statement. There is no "prosecutors' wheel of conspiracy against Crystal Mangum".; April 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

What happened to the boiling water Daye brought into the room? I thought he left Crystal to go boil some water. You mysteriously dropped that detail from your narrative.; April 6, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Break the Conspiracy said...: Sidney,

I found Part One to be an interesting introduction. You appear to concede that the mainstream media routinely fails to cover black-on-black crime, and the failure to provide intensive coverage would not be surprising except for the allegations of a fraudulent autopsy and a prosecutorial conspiracy.

The many letters you sent to news organizations set the stage for the proof I am confident you will include in Part Two. As I am sure you recognize, your letters alone do not constitute evidence of a cover-up. Despite your impeccable credentials as a retired ER physician, it is not clear that they took you seriously. After all, the naysayers may suggest that no one should take seriously a physician who opines that DNA is not important in a rape investigation in which the rapists are alleged to have ejaculated and did not use condoms. These naysayers may also suggest that your statements show that you are willing to say anything to support your case or are unqualified to make any medical judgments.

I am confident that you will provide proof that the news organizations took you seriously and their investigations confirmed your allegations. I am sure that you will provide this proof.; April 6, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have some typos in the text. The accepted term for a video blog is "vlog" and not "vog" as you typed.; April 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid-ney, Sid-ney, Sid-ney; April 6, 2013 at 7:04 PM
Anonymous said...: More bandwidth waste.........Sidney is running out of material. Same old tired bullcrap.; April 7, 2013 at 6:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey Sid,

Who's your daddy?; April 7, 2013 at 9:06 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid,

What happened to the boiling water Daye brought into the room? I thought he left Crystal to go boil some water. You mysteriously dropped that detail from your narrative.

I still maintain that that is what Crystal told me, but in the interests of brevity and seeing as how it played no significant role (i.e. she was not scalded), I have not continually repeated it. But I did mention it for the record, and no one can say I brought it up on the spur of the moment.; April 7, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Break the Conspiracy said...
Sidney,

I found Part One to be an interesting introduction. You appear to concede that the mainstream media routinely fails to cover black-on-black crime, and the failure to provide intensive coverage would not be surprising except for the allegations of a fraudulent autopsy and a prosecutorial conspiracy.

The many letters you sent to news organizations set the stage for the proof I am confident you will include in Part Two. As I am sure you recognize, your letters alone do not constitute evidence of a cover-up. Despite your impeccable credentials as a retired ER physician, it is not clear that they took you seriously. After all, the naysayers may suggest that no one should take seriously a physician who opines that DNA is not important in a rape investigation in which the rapists are alleged to have ejaculated and did not use condoms. These naysayers may also suggest that your statements show that you are willing to say anything to support your case or are unqualified to make any medical judgments.

I am confident that you will provide proof that the news organizations took you seriously and their investigations confirmed your allegations. I am sure that you will provide this proof.

Hey, Break.

Part Two of the YouTube video will briefly present a few documents, but it is the interactive flog that will follow which will include the documents that will be available to view at the reader's pace. They will include mostly letters I wrote to the media more than a year ago advising them that the autopsy report was fraudulent. The media, I believe, is purposely ignoring me because it does not want to conduct an investigation into it. I asked two editorial page editors to do an editorial about Mangum's situation, and they both refused.

I don't hold local media responsible, because the policy about protecting the medical examiner and Duke University Hospital is made at the very top. This is the same thing that the media did to Mike Nifong.

Yes, the news media takes me very seriously, and that is why they are avoiding and ignoring me.

I hope to have Part Two of the video posted no later than Wednesday.; April 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid,

You have some typos in the text. The accepted term for a video blog is "vlog" and not "vog" as you typed.

Really? I thought I invented the word. I never heard of "vlog." If this is no joke, and you are attempting to enlighten me, could you send me the source of your definition or give me a sample of its use elsewhere. Thank you. Otherwise, until I hear from you about it, I will continue to use "vog" as it is easier to pronounce than a word beginning with "vl."; April 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Hey Sid,

Who's your daddy?

My father is Sidney B. Harr... I am a Junior. He was a very great person and family man who reared two physicians, a nurse, and a school teacher. He served in the U.S. Army as a career, and after retirement he earned his college degree and worked as a social worker. He, along with my mother, instilled in all of us the wonderful qualities of kindness, humanity, and humility. We loved him dearly, and if you met him, I have no doubt you would like him very much.; April 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: Adrian Miles originally coined the term "vog" for "video blog" back in 2000 (sorry, Sid). The term "vlog" has since become the accepted term, and was added to the Merriam-Webster dictionary in 2009.
Consider yourself enlightened...; April 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Why do you want the media coverage so badly? What do you hope to achieve with that?; April 7, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Anonymous said...: My apologies to the Daye family and any others who find this next statement upsetting (my sympathies for your loss and the saddness of this case, sincerely).

Sidney, you said there were lacerations on other organs noted by the medical examiner, and not by Duke. Was Mr. Daly an organ donor, and were these additional lacerations an indication of that activity perhaps? This is just a question, not a fact, and not an opinion. I have no idea, but am just wondering if this is a possibility. That aspect of Duke's services is worrisome in context with the questions of this case to some.

Thank you for you time in thinking about this and for thoughtful answers if they do not compromise the case in any way.; April 7, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Anonymous said...: You would not be offering "enlightenment" if you had a proper sense of humility. While you would still share your knowledge and opinions, you would not act like the egotistical know-it-all you have become.; April 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, you have put so much time and effort into documenting these cases that your dedication to achieving or maintaining justice in Durham is admirable and appreciated by many.

Do you think one of the most causative problems in Durham/Duke justice system is the lack of lawyers who can provide equal and fair legal representation in order to not require the trying of these cases in the court of public opinion?

This lack of lawyers who can provide representation without conflict of interest in the Durham/Duke Court extends to all levels of the NC Judicial and Political System to the point of there being No justice for any in many areas of civil rights and social justice policy, decisions, and judgments it would seem.

This control extends to most of the news conglomerates as well making it quite easy to see in the use of the media to try the Lacrosse case at the time when that was done, versus not actually using this current case in the same manner. I imagine Ms. Mangum and Duke and the medical examiners are grateful for that, as are probably most of NC. There is so much politics in these cases, Sydney, that my point is this:

NC needs lawyers who can provide citizens of this state representation when dealing in legal matters when Duke is involved in order for true justice to be available for all when dealing with Duke in any way. Do you agree that this is currently Not available to most if not any in the NC judicial system?

If this aspect of being a NC citizen were mended, many in the state would feel more willing to utilize Duke's services, and the environment would not be so hostile and threatened to so many.

Any ideas on how to change this aspect of the very real lack of justice and equal legal representation in NC that affects all, whether they are aware of it or not?; April 7, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Somebody once said you could be certain of two things in life - death and taxes.There's one more thing you can be absolutely certain of - no white man would ever want to have sex with Crystal Mangum.; April 8, 2013 at 2:42 AM
Anonymous said...: ..."appreciated by many"? Really? Just how do you define "many", poster? Three, six, twenty-two?
I would say that beyond the wingnut J4N crowd, the troll Kenny, sidney's relatives, and sidney himself.....that just about covers his so-called appreciators.; April 8, 2013 at 4:28 AM
Anonymous said...: ..."policy made at the very top".....just exactly WHO is the "very top", sidney? name names. Who is controlling the vast white oppressor conspiracy? Is it still Rae Evans? If not, who?; April 8, 2013 at 4:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Book Titles:
"I'ts Not my Fault", C. Mangum
"How to pick a second career after you lose your nursing license", SANE
"Thank God it wasn't me", Walker
"Ooops, she did it again". R. Brodhead
"Damn it, Sister, you're supposed to be a righteous victim", 88Duke
"Told you she was trouble", Mr. Mangum
"Laughter in the courtroom" W. Vann
"She stabbed him. He died". C. Nichols
"Ditto". C. Roberts
"I am a lumberjack and I'm OK", Kenny Troll (for fans of M. Python)
"Is I Un-Conscious Yet?" T. Cline
"State v. Welch, numbnut", Walt
"Doggoneit, I thought I wuz dialing Crystal for a lap dance", C. Shella
"Do you want fries with that?", M, Nifong
"It's STILL not my fault", C. Mangum; April 8, 2013 at 6:26 AM
Anonymous said...: In spite of all the hoopla and hot air blowing out of Sidney Harr, the TRUTH is that nobody has done Mangum more harm than him. Harr has been responsible for giving Mangum serial BAD advice, illegally posting information, running off good lawyers and otherwise screwing up her cases...both Walker and Daye. (recall, Jones quit because of J4N involvement and intrusion). As Walt correctly points out, Mangum is going to have one helluva time trying to prevail with a self defense case.....and, of course, because Harr ran his mouth, the prosecution knows that Roberts found nothing wrong with the autopsy report and the Duke management of Reginald Daye's care. Nice going, Sidney.
You can deny it all you want. No matter.; April 8, 2013 at 7:01 AM
Walt said...: Sid, you're singing the the third or fourth verse of the same old song. And, it does not get any better. You and your crew have complained about the media except when you get un-critical coverage. The minute the coverage turns critical, you complain.

The truth is, your unsubstantiated claims are not news. Dr. Nichols is the Medical Examiner, when he releases findings, those are news. If an expert comes forward to refute those findings at trial, that will be news. In between, the only news about the medical findings is the defense expert agrees with the state's expert. That's called a consensus.

If Crystal wants to challenge the larceny charge, she's had three good lawyers on the case. Any one of them could file a motion to dismiss. You, Sid, are not a lawyer and filing motions is the unauthroized practice of law. You have been warned and now enjoined. In the process, you have harmed Crystal's defense. With friends like you, she doesn't need any enemies and she certainly doesn't need any more negative press generated by you.

So far, you have proven the media to be remarkably wise in ignoring your unsubstantiated claims. That's not a conspiracy, that's competent jounralism.

Walt-in-Durham; April 8, 2013 at 7:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, the media has no obligation to respond to you. Provide something other than your opinion, something substantive to backup your claims...and perhaps the media might pay attention. As it is, you don't even provide any credentials to establish yourself as a physician, much less an expert in pathology, forensics, pulmonary medicine or trauma care. Why you think anybody should give your opinions any more credence than Joe Blow on the Street is just your own ego and desire for attention, working overtime. We are all aware of your attempts at being cute, your pseudo-intellectual silliness and your endlessly boring rants. Nothing new here at all. It has been the same for years.
Meantime, you have lost your bid to beat up Duke and the NC Bar and gotten yourself spanked in both cases. Further, you've illegally psoted confidential medical information, in violation of HIPPA and you've screwed up any chance Mangum might have of keeping her defense strategy close to her vest.
You try to make some big deal out of what you claim what a deliberate slur on Mr. Daye's name, as though that's remotely significant. You tell lies about Mangum and the fire setting episode and ridicule the police for doing their jobs. You distort Mr. Daye's record, you distort witness statements, you manufacture injuries to Mangum that are not supported by evidence, and you run your mouth about some stupid conspiracy headed by Rae Evans and the green eye shade people at Duke. After awhile, it all becomes comical. I hope Mangum either gets a decent plea deal or, if she goes to trial, I hope Holmes is able to fight off a Murder II charge. It sure does not look good at this point............and you have made it worse.; April 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...
Adrian Miles originally coined the term "vog" for "video blog" back in 2000 (sorry, Sid). The term "vlog" has since become the accepted term, and was added to the Merriam-Webster dictionary in 2009.
Consider yourself enlightened...

Supreme Poster, Thank you for the enlightenment. I am grateful.

Although "vlog" may be the accepted term, I think I will still use "vog" because its easier to pronounce... even though I didn't invent it. (boo-hoo); April 8, 2013 at 8:25 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Why do you want the media coverage so badly? What do you hope to achieve with that?

I want the media to do its job. Right now the media has been concealing the truth from the people. Most people who do not visit this site are unaware that Daye's death was due to esophageal intubation, that he was on life support for a week, and its elective removal resulted in his death. Neither are they aware that the autopsy report is fraudulent.

Not only should the media be reporting on this story, but they should be investigating it.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; April 8, 2013 at 8:28 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
My apologies to the Daye family and any others who find this next statement upsetting (my sympathies for your loss and the saddness of this case, sincerely).

Sidney, you said there were lacerations on other organs noted by the medical examiner, and not by Duke. Was Mr. Daly an organ donor, and were these additional lacerations an indication of that activity perhaps? This is just a question, not a fact, and not an opinion. I have no idea, but am just wondering if this is a possibility. That aspect of Duke's services is worrisome in context with the questions of this case to some.

Thank you for you time in thinking about this and for thoughtful answers if they do not compromise the case in any way.

Thank you for the thoughtful questions.

First I don't know if any organs were harvested for transplant. I don't believe so. I believe that Dr. Nichols just made up lesions to the left lung, diaphragm, left kidney, and stomach.

I believe he fabricated them to make it appear that Daye sustained such serious wounds that it resulted in his death... just like he made up the lesions on the left upper extremity and then suggest they were "defensive injuries."

The other confounding thing about the report is that he states that the fabricated lesions previously mentioned had been sutured... to suggest that they were treated at surgery.

The only true injuries sustained by Daye from the stab wound was a laceration to the colon and a minor lesion to the spleen (which was treated with Surgi-cel and electrocautery).; April 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Same old blah blah blah.........not one word of this is true. Not one word.; April 8, 2013 at 8:37 AM
Anonymous said...: What are your credentials to support your claim to be a physician, retired or otherwise? And what experience do you have in trauma medicine, surgery, forensics and pathology?; April 8, 2013 at 8:42 AM
Anonymous said...: I'm curious, Sidney, did you obtain consent from the Daye family to post his medical records? Was Vann aware that Mangum gave you the information and that you were going to post it? I believe you said recently that you filed motions without Shella knowing about it. I am wondering whether Vann knew Mangum gave you the confidential information. You recently made mention of a couple of cases where you claim patients have regained consciousness after brain death on extended LS. Can you cite any verificable statistics to show what per cent of patients, diagnosed with brain death, regain consciousness, and, further what per cent of that group regain any level of cognitive or physical functioning? If so, what is your source? Are you implying here that Daye should have been kept on LS, against his family's wishes, in order for Mangum to avoid a murder charge?; April 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM
guiowen said...: Sidney said,
"Most people who do not visit this site are unaware that Daye's death was due to esophageal intubation, that he was on life support for a week, and its elective removal resulted in his death. Neither are they aware that the autopsy report is fraudulent."

The problem, Sidney, is that most people who do visit this site are aware that you claim all this, but quite simply don't see why they should believe you.
You HAVE to establish better credentials.; April 8, 2013 at 8:49 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney, you have put so much time and effort into documenting these cases that your dedication to achieving or maintaining justice in Durham is admirable and appreciated by many.

Do you think one of the most causative problems in Durham/Duke justice system is the lack of lawyers who can provide equal and fair legal representation in order to not require the trying of these cases in the court of public opinion?

This lack of lawyers who can provide representation without conflict of interest in the Durham/Duke Court extends to all levels of the NC Judicial and Political System to the point of there being No justice for any in many areas of civil rights and social justice policy, decisions, and judgments it would seem.

This control extends to most of the news conglomerates as well making it quite easy to see in the use of the media to try the Lacrosse case at the time when that was done, versus not actually using this current case in the same manner. I imagine Ms. Mangum and Duke and the medical examiners are grateful for that, as are probably most of NC. There is so much politics in these cases, Sydney, that my point is this:

NC needs lawyers who can provide citizens of this state representation when dealing in legal matters when Duke is involved in order for true justice to be available for all when dealing with Duke in any way. Do you agree that this is currently Not available to most if not any in the NC judicial system?

If this aspect of being a NC citizen were mended, many in the state would feel more willing to utilize Duke's services, and the environment would not be so hostile and threatened to so many.

Any ideas on how to change this aspect of the very real lack of justice and equal legal representation in NC that affects all, whether they are aware of it or not?

You are exactly right about the lack of lawyers willing to go up against Duke University... especially in a Duke Lacrosse related situation. I believe that lawyers are rightfully concerned about adverse repercussions associated with taking on Duke... even if they prevail. Legal problems related to the Duke Lacrosse case are an especially sore point... it is probably the most political issue that is negatively impacting the justice system today.

Because of Duke's power, I would be afraid to trust an attorney to represent me in going against Duke. Even if I had a good case, the attorney would probably benefit greater in allowing Duke off the hook.

This is the problem Mangum faces now in getting a good attorney. Incentives are in place for them to throw the case.

I don't know what the solution is, but one thing I know... if going against a powerhouse like Duke, it is best to proceed Pro Se... (or possibly with a civil rights attorney working Pro Bono, ACLU, etc.) Otherwise, the lawyer representing you will financially bleed you dry before you even get to court. At least you save in attorney's fees.

In my case, the only way that Duke University had a chance of prevailing was by depriving me of my day in court... which is what it did. The court gave in to Duke.

So, it is an uphill fight against Duke... and I don't know the answer. The only recourse I see is to file Pro Se.; April 8, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid, you're singing the the third or fourth verse of the same old song. And, it does not get any better. You and your crew have complained about the media except when you get un-critical coverage. The minute the coverage turns critical, you complain.

The truth is, your unsubstantiated claims are not news. Dr. Nichols is the Medical Examiner, when he releases findings, those are news. If an expert comes forward to refute those findings at trial, that will be news. In between, the only news about the medical findings is the defense expert agrees with the state's expert. That's called a consensus.

If Crystal wants to challenge the larceny charge, she's had three good lawyers on the case. Any one of them could file a motion to dismiss. You, Sid, are not a lawyer and filing motions is the unauthroized practice of law. You have been warned and now enjoined. In the process, you have harmed Crystal's defense. With friends like you, she doesn't need any enemies and she certainly doesn't need any more negative press generated by you.

So far, you have proven the media to be remarkably wise in ignoring your unsubstantiated claims. That's not a conspiracy, that's competent jounralism.

Hey, Walt.

The only media coverage I've received has been critical... and I'm constantly complaining about the lack of investigative and accurate and objective reporting regarding Mangum's case.

The Larceny charge should have been challenged long ago as there's no basis for it. Having that charge removed alone would dismiss the first degree murder charge.

Yes, I filed motions in Mangum's case, but I'd like you to enlighten me as to how it has in any way hampered Crystal's case or defense.

The fact of the matter is that the media is biased when it comes to Mangum, Nifong, or the Duke Lacrosse case.

P.S. Part Two of the Vog should hopefully be posted by Wednesday, the 10th.; April 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Prove your credentials, sidney, if you expect anyone to take you seriously. otherwise, continue on with the buffoonery.; April 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Anonymous said...: sieney, the point here is that you have done nothing to establish yourself as any more credible than anybody else. You have not even proven that you are a physician, let alone that you have expertise in pertinent areas in the Mangum case. Why do you think you are entitled to media attention.....at any different level than any other member of the general public? You unwillingnress to disclose your credentials and experience would make even the most forgiving person suspicious. It's like me saying I would go have my tax returns done by somebody who says I used to be a CPA. Trust me. Not gonna happen.; April 8, 2013 at 9:14 AM
guiowen said...: Sidney said,
"You are exactly right about the lack of lawyers willing to go up against Duke University... especially in a Duke Lacrosse related situation. I believe that lawyers are rightfully concerned about adverse repercussions associated with taking on Duke... even if they prevail. Legal problems related to the Duke Lacrosse case are an especially sore point... it is probably the most political issue that is negatively impacting the justice system today."

Sidney, you know Duke desisted in the case they filed against KC Johnson. Maybe you should ask for his help in going against Duke. Perhaps he can help you to find an attorney?; April 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, I believe there are some outstanding lawyers in Raleigh who had no problem, at all, representing the interests of the LAX players.......against Nifong.....and, very successfully against Duke indirectly.....in the Nifong hearing. Nobody flinched at the lawyer table when it came time to question the SANE who was a Duke employee. The Duke 88, the Black Panthers, jesse jackson, al sharpton, victoria wingnut, wahneeeeema and others all pranced around, with implicit (if not explicit)endorsement from the ballless Brodhead. I didn't see any lawyers waffling then when it came time to stand up for the truth of the hoax; April 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Hey, Walt.

The only media coverage I've received has been critical... and I'm constantly complaining about the lack of investigative and accurate and objective reporting regarding Mangum's case."

The only reporting I've seen in this case has been generally objective. The Herald Sun even quoted you.

"The Larceny charge should have been challenged long ago as there's no basis for it. Having that charge removed alone would dismiss the first degree murder charge."

You don't really learn very well. We've been over this before. The Assault with a Deadly Weapon is a Class E felony. More than enough to support the felony-murder rule. The larceny is there as a back up in case the jury decides to convict on Assault Resulting in Serious Bodily Harm, a Class A Misdemeanor. While I think the larceny is an overcharge, I also think the state has made a prima-facie case that will withstand a motion to dismiss. If you were a lawyer you would understand the significance. As is, you are simply proving the value of a legal education.

"Yes, I filed motions in Mangum's case, but I'd like you to enlighten me as to how it has in any way hampered Crystal's case or defense."

You ran off not one, but two excellent criminal defense lawyers. Two lawyers who probably know better than any others how the DA's office works in felony cases.

You breached the attorney client privilege and disclosed Dr. Roberts opinion. That forever compromised any attack that could have been brought on Dr. Nichols from the defense. (Not that a successful attack was likely because you don't understand the import of St. v. Welch. But, that just further illustrates the value of a legal education in these matters.)

You filed frivolous motions for a writ of mandamus, one of which you claimed to invoke the court's power to mandate the Commissioner of Insurance. What a total waste of time, although one of the most humorous motions filed in Superior Court in the last fifty years.

"The fact of the matter is that the media is biased when it comes to Mangum, Nifong, or the Duke Lacrosse case."

Initially, they were. They were completely biased in favor of Nifong and Mangum. Twice lied to, the media recovered some of its objectivity.

Walt-in-Durham; April 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I want the media to do its job. Right now the media has been concealing the truth from the people. Most people who do not visit this site are unaware that Daye's death was due to esophageal intubation, that he was on life support for a week, and its elective removal resulted in his death. Neither are they aware that the autopsy report is fraudulent."

No you don't.You want the media to pay attention to you.; April 8, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"First I don't know if any organs were harvested for transplant. I don't believe so. I believe that Dr. Nichols just made up lesions to the left lung, diaphragm, left kidney, and stomach."

And you show you place your faith in a false god.; April 8, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"You are exactly right about the lack of lawyers willing to go up against Duke University... especially in a Duke Lacrosse related situation. I believe that lawyers are rightfully concerned about adverse repercussions associated with taking on Duke... even if they prevail. Legal problems related to the Duke Lacrosse case are an especially sore point... it is probably the most political issue that is negatively impacting the justice system today."

You show again what you believe in is not The Man from Nazareth.He warned against false prophets like you.; April 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Hey, Walt.

The only media coverage I've received has been critical..."

And deservedly so.

"and I'm constantly complaining about the lack of investigative and accurate and objective reporting regarding Mangum's case."

You are complaining that the media, rightfully, does not take your uncorroborated allegations seriously.

"The Larceny charge should have been challenged long ago as there's no basis for it. Having that charge removed alone would dismiss the first degree murder charge."

So says SIDNEY, who said he would prevail in his frivolous suit against Duke, he would humiliate the NC State Bar.

"Yes, I filed motions in Mangum's case, but I'd like you to enlighten me as to how it has in any way hampered Crystal's case or defense."

You show you are incapable of enlightenment.

"The fact of the matter is that the media is biased when it comes to Mangum, Nifong, or the Duke Lacrosse case."

The fact of the matter is, SIDNEY is biased against the media.; April 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, thank you for all your answers. You've done a lot of work, and many are hoping that Ms. Mangum is given a fair trial and not held in prison the rest of her life for Duke's medical errors, which, if you think deeply enough, is the reason for Duke's wrathful behavior towards all. I cringe when I think of Duke these days with their new money incentives not to have people return to their hospital within a certain time after admittance. I wonder what they will do if they think they messed up and the person will be back before the money time limit is up.

Why does Ms. Mangum trust Mr. Holmes (the newest lawyer)? (If case is not compromised by discussing only please).; April 8, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: " many are hoping that Ms. Mangum is given a fair trial and not held in prison the rest of her life for Duke's medical errors, which, if you think deeply enough, is the reason for Duke's wrathful behavior towards all."

If Mangum is convicted, it will be due to her killing Reginald Daye.
Duke University Medical Center has shown no wrathful behavior toward me or anyone I know -- or any of the patients that gave DUMC the highest patient satisfaction scores in the state of North Carolina.; April 8, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...: once you see the truth you can never go back

you are naive to think that - and argue against all who talk about otherwise - how enlightened can be?

argue against those who have experienced or seen the harm they do first hand - even if from these cases which have been tremendously awful due to duke - and negate their suffering and complaints of the harm thinking they are so special surely they will never get harmed as well.; April 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM
A lawyer said...: argue against those who have experienced or seen the harm they do first hand - even if from these cases which have been tremendously awful due to duke - and negate their suffering and complaints of the harm thinking they are so special surely they will never get harmed as well.

Is that paragraph supposed to be in English?; April 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Anonymous said...: are you a lawyer from Duke or with conflicts of interest with Duke?

leave me alone

harrass me again and it will be termed hate crime

thanks; April 8, 2013 at 3:20 PM
guiowen said...: Anonymous 3:20:
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.; April 8, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Anonymous said...: no - you (and your on-line bully gang) stop bullying, trolling, and committing hate crimes g...

how's that?; April 8, 2013 at 3:39 PM
Anonymous said...: It is not english. It is jibberish from one of harr's fifth grade grads at nccu.; April 8, 2013 at 3:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Ooo, guiowen you bad bully you. :).; April 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Oooooo oh my lord I hate crime!!!! Like when nifong hated to give up his cushy job with the DA office so much that he lied his ass off .......like that????; April 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM
A lawyer said...: (a) I have zero contacts with Duke. I have never represented Duke, anyone who works for Duke or, so far as I know anyone who has ever been to Duke. I have never even set foot in Durham; I am a lawyer in two states, neither of them anywhere near North Carolina.

(b)If you post comments here, you can expect people to respond to them. That is not "harassment" or a "hate crime."

(c) I repeat that your post makes no sense at all. You wrote: "argue against those who have experienced or seen the harm they [who is "they"?] do first hand - even if from these cases [what cases?] which have been tremendously awful due to duke - and negate their suffering[whose suffering?] and complaints of the harm [who was harmed by whom?]thinking they [Who is "they"? The ones who were harmed? the ones who harmed them?]are so special surely they will never get harmed as well." What is that supposed to mean?; April 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM
A lawyer said...: There's one more thing you can be absolutely certain of - no white man would ever want to have sex with Crystal Mangum.

That is comment is ugly, racist and untrue. I don't believe that Ms. Mangum was raped, because of the overwhelming evidence rebutting her claim, but her race and appearance have nothing to do with it.; April 8, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Yep no need for racist comments from Harr or from someone who insists inputting this stuff here. This is NOT about race. This is about character, crime, and justice. Mangum has the morals of a house cat but not because she is lack......her character is in question, not her color; April 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Anonymous said...: to the lawyer:

we need one, but this is a blog about those issues you apparently are not aware of. i do not know if you are harrassing me or not because you are part of a crowd who were because of their hate against anything non duke biased.

If you relate this blog and these cases talked about herein to my statement, you will find all the explanation and information you seem to be unaware of even in the minimalist degree.

thank you; April 8, 2013 at 5:20 PM
guiowen said...: I'm sorry. I had forgotten that failure to agree with all that Sidney's newfound friend says is (a) bullying and (b) a hate crime.
I do repent me of my heinous crime! Please forgive me!!; April 8, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Anonymous said...: prove your worthy of forgiveness - don't do it again

thanks; April 8, 2013 at 6:24 PM
A lawyer said...: we need one,
One what?

but this is a blog about those issues you apparently are not aware of.
I've been reading posts here for more than a year, and I've been posting since before you started. What issues are discussed on this blog that I'm not aware of?

i do not know if you are harrassing me or not
Well, that's an improvement; earlier, you were ready to accuse me of some sort of "hate crime."

because you are part of a crowd who were
Who were what?

because of their hate against anything non duke biased.
What is that supposed to mean? That there are people who hate anything that's not biased against Duke?

Look, I am not harassing you, but if you want to post in a public forum, you ought to write English sentences that people can understand. Otherwise, why bother?

If you relate this blog and these cases talked about herein to my statement, you will find all the explanation and information you seem to be unaware of even in the minimalist degree.
Sorry, no, I need explanation because you are not writing in comprehensible English (or at least in English that I can comprehend; maybe it's my fault). And you have no idea of what I am "unaware of."; April 8, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...: fy; April 8, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Ooooooo I think our mistrial recluse poster just bullied us and committed a hate crime.......lol. "Fy", no less.; April 9, 2013 at 4:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Sorry...... Make that mistrail.......; April 9, 2013 at 4:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

How can a jury be selected if:

1. NoOne in NC can obtain a lawyer in NC to represent them against Duke.

2. This case involves the question of the possibility of whether or not Duke killed Mr. Daye in order to frame Ms. Mangum in deciding the murder charges against Ms. Mangum.

3. Most would naturally feel intimidated by the lack of justice when dealing with Duke at any level when they understand that this is the scenario they are being placed in to judge.

4. Therefore, there is no way it seems to obtain a nonbiased jury.

What do you think?

Thank you for your time and consideration in answering this question, as well as the one about why Ms. Mangum trusts her new lawyer. (As always while still perserving the integrity of the case ... thanks); April 9, 2013 at 4:47 AM
Anonymous said...: If Duke prevails in their plans for the future of NC, there is the very real possibility that ALL will blame them for the destruction of NC, possibly the entire eastern coast of USA through the fact of the seismic instability on the east coast which makes possibility of harm greater to all by even one well-placed larger earthquake on the east coast, and the destruction of all trust and stability in the judicial system and politics, the medical sytem, etc.

Hard to understand why others do not see that, or would support that type scenerio for the future.; April 9, 2013 at 6:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Other things to think about where duke is concerned:

Even people from Duke argued against the China site.

Some concerns are these:

A. N. Korea targeting them (or others not N. Korean - even if to create reason for another war w/N. Korea) creates the possibility that an adverse action against Duke in China will require military intervention and protection.

B. The recent eastern culture discrimination protest on Duke indicates they don't really get the significance of that or any other discrimination complaint until it becomes an issue as big to their liking as they deem necessary (so they can complain some more about the complainers - it is their game after all - one they enjoy playing for money and for sport and for whatever else benefits their needs at the moment).

C. They are evil in their ethics which is quite apparent to most. They rule with intimidation, deception, fear, and control of the media, politics, judicial, educational, medical, and by corruption, anti-trust and grooming tactics, etc.; April 9, 2013 at 7:14 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
sieney, the point here is that you have done nothing to establish yourself as any more credible than anybody else. You have not even proven that you are a physician, let alone that you have expertise in pertinent areas in the Mangum case. Why do you think you are entitled to media attention.....at any different level than any other member of the general public? You unwillingnress to disclose your credentials and experience would make even the most forgiving person suspicious. It's like me saying I would go have my tax returns done by somebody who says I used to be a CPA. Trust me. Not gonna happen.

Fact is that commenters to this site have already done the background check and have correctly identified the medical school I attended and where I received my postgraduate training.

If I see a train wreck I don't have to be a locomotive engineer to be credible in reporting it. Fact is that a medical background is not required to recognize discrepancies between the autopsy report and other medical reports, including the operative report.; April 9, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
I'm curious, Sidney, did you obtain consent from the Daye family to post his medical records? Was Vann aware that Mangum gave you the information and that you were going to post it? I believe you said recently that you filed motions without Shella knowing about it. I am wondering whether Vann knew Mangum gave you the confidential information. You recently made mention of a couple of cases where you claim patients have regained consciousness after brain death on extended LS. Can you cite any verificable statistics to show what per cent of patients, diagnosed with brain death, regain consciousness, and, further what per cent of that group regain any level of cognitive or physical functioning? If so, what is your source? Are you implying here that Daye should have been kept on LS, against his family's wishes, in order for Mangum to avoid a murder charge?

I have never had any communication or contact with anyone from the Daye family. I don't know what Mr. Vann knew regarding what Crystal Mangum did with the prosecution discovery... you wouldl have to ask him. I know that people who have been determined to be brain dead have miraculously regained consciousness. I don't know about available statistics regarding these events, but one publicized locally concerns Joshua Wrenn.

Wrenn's family did not expect a recovery, but kept Joshua on life support for legal reasons at advice of its attorney. Had he been removed from life support after one week, his eventual awakening two months later would never have taken place.

Regarding Reginald Daye, the possibility exists that he, like Wrenn, might have recovered had he remained on life support for several more months. I see a serious problem with prosecutors when they electively remove someone from life support and then charge an individual with murder. The prosecutors would have firmer ground to stand on if Daye had died while on life support.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; April 9, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Sidney said,
"You are exactly right about the lack of lawyers willing to go up against Duke University... especially in a Duke Lacrosse related situation. I believe that lawyers are rightfully concerned about adverse repercussions associated with taking on Duke... even if they prevail. Legal problems related to the Duke Lacrosse case are an especially sore point... it is probably the most political issue that is negatively impacting the justice system today."

Sidney, you know Duke desisted in the case they filed against KC Johnson. Maybe you should ask for his help in going against Duke. Perhaps he can help you to find an attorney?

gui, mon ami,

What I do not need is an attorney to take my money and send me down the river.; April 9, 2013 at 7:50 AM
Anonymous said...: You attended a medical school and did one year of residency, as far as I have read on this site. And that was years ago. I have also read you are the fifth-line rep. on one non-clinical, rather lame research reference....that's all that has been reported. Hardly a CV worthy of claiming expertise in any of the relevant specialties involved with Daye....pathology, forensics, trauma surgery and pulmonary medicine. There are no discrepancies involved in any of the documents you posted without consent. Unforunately for your theory, the evidence is NOT there to substantiate conspiracy.
With regard to Wrenn, the circumstances surrounding the decisions made BY THE FAMILY are not a matter of public record and you have no clue all that entered into their private decision process. Further, the overwhelming majority of patients who sustain low scores (as did Daye)with no self-generated electrical activity do NOT recover....and, once again, I must remind you that the decision to remove Daye's LS was the FAMILY'S...not Duke's. This entire line of discussion is mute and completely irrelevant, as Walt as correctly and repeatedly pointed out via his reference to State v. Welch. Your headinthesand, assintheair is duly noted....as you continue to pretend proximate cause (but-for causation) and State v. Welch don't exist. They DO and Duke's care of Daye will not be at issue in Mangum's trial. You screwed Mangum when you shot off your mouth over the FACT that ROBERTS found nothing wrong with the records or the autopsy report. Nice work, sidney; April 9, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Hey, Walt.

The only media coverage I've received has been critical... and I'm constantly complaining about the lack of investigative and accurate and objective reporting regarding Mangum's case."

The only reporting I've seen in this case has been generally objective. The Herald Sun even quoted you.

"The Larceny charge should have been challenged long ago as there's no basis for it. Having that charge removed alone would dismiss the first degree murder charge."

You don't really learn very well. We've been over this before. The Assault with a Deadly Weapon is a Class E felony. More than enough to support the felony-murder rule. The larceny is there as a back up in case the jury decides to convict on Assault Resulting in Serious Bodily Harm, a Class A Misdemeanor. While I think the larceny is an overcharge, I also think the state has made a prima-facie case that will withstand a motion to dismiss. If you were a lawyer you would understand the significance. As is, you are simply proving the value of a legal education.

"Yes, I filed motions in Mangum's case, but I'd like you to enlighten me as to how it has in any way hampered Crystal's case or defense."

You ran off not one, but two excellent criminal defense lawyers. Two lawyers who probably know better than any others how the DA's office works in felony cases.

You breached the attorney client privilege and disclosed Dr. Roberts opinion. That forever compromised any attack that could have been brought on Dr. Nichols from the defense. (Not that a successful attack was likely because you don't understand the import of St. v. Welch. But, that just further illustrates the value of a legal education in these matters.)

You filed frivolous motions for a writ of mandamus, one of which you claimed to invoke the court's power to mandate the Commissioner of Insurance. What a total waste of time, although one of the most humorous motions filed in Superior Court in the last fifty years.

"The fact of the matter is that the media is biased when it comes to Mangum, Nifong, or the Duke Lacrosse case."

Initially, they were. They were completely biased in favor of Nifong and Mangum. Twice lied to, the media recovered some of its objectivity.

Walt-in-Durham

Hey, Walt.

So you do believe that anyone who dies as a result from an assault can be charged with first degree murder...? I don't think so.

The two attorneys you allege I ran off may be competent and even excellent lawyers, but they were doing nothing for Crystal. During their tenure, no investigation was even conducted. During their tenure, no motion to dismiss the baseless charges was filed.

I don't know about her current attorney. Time will tell.

Regarding Dr. Roberts, she lied to Crystal when she told her the autopsy report was accurate. She has repeatedly refused to put anything in writing. Under oath, don't expect her to repeat the lie, because the medical community knows the truth.

As far as lying goes, what proof do you have that Mike Nifong or Crystal Mangum lied? I don't consider the words of the attorney general to be proof.; April 9, 2013 at 8:00 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney, thank you for all your answers. You've done a lot of work, and many are hoping that Ms. Mangum is given a fair trial and not held in prison the rest of her life for Duke's medical errors, which, if you think deeply enough, is the reason for Duke's wrathful behavior towards all. I cringe when I think of Duke these days with their new money incentives not to have people return to their hospital within a certain time after admittance. I wonder what they will do if they think they messed up and the person will be back before the money time limit is up.

Why does Ms. Mangum trust Mr. Holmes (the newest lawyer)? (If case is not compromised by discussing only please).

I don't think that the case will go to trial because it is so weak and potentially leaves Duke and the Medical examiner open to scrutiny.

Scott Holmes was retained by Mangum because he came highly recommended by a couple of her supporters. I do not know him, but I can say that I am not in agreement with what little of his strategy I am aware.; April 9, 2013 at 8:08 AM
Anonymous said...: .....Sidney says, "So you do believe that anyone who dies as a result from an assault can be charged with first degree murder...? I don't think so."
Wow, brillant statement, sidney. I don't think too many people who die are charged with murder either...

Your intellect is staggering....; April 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Perhaps the scumbag who is charged with raping and murdering that littl five year old girl will meet Mangum someday......a perfect match.
Only his scumbag girlfriend, the mother of the dead child, might not like it too much....that is, of course, if she is not convicted of selling the little girl to this creep to pay off a drug debt; April 9, 2013 at 8:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Taking bets, folks........Vote one if you think the case will go to trial and mangum will be found not guilty of all charges.
Vote two....if you think the case will go to trial and mangum will be convicted of murder, second degree.
Vote three, if you think she will be convicted of manslaughter.
Vote four, if you think a plea deal will be struck and no trial will occur
Vote five, if you have another outcome and tell us what you think that outcome will be.
As for me, right now, I am voting three, conviction, manslaughter; April 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM
Anonymous said...: My vote can change...but, as of now, it's a plea deal for manslaughter and no trial..; April 9, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Hey, Walt.

So you do believe that anyone who dies as a result from an assault can be charged with first degree murder...? I don't think so."

You would think wrong.

"The two attorneys you allege I ran off may be competent and even excellent lawyers, but they were doing nothing for Crystal. During their tenure, no investigation was even conducted. During their tenure, no motion to dismiss the baseless charges was filed."

They weren't doing what you wanted, is different from doing nothing. What they were doing was mounting a good defense as opposed to your frivolous one.

"I don't know about her current attorney. Time will tell."

Given your track record, I figure you are already lying to Crystal and planning your next move to further undermine her defense.

"Regarding Dr. Roberts, she lied"

Everyone who disagrees with you is a liar. Did it ever occur to you that based on their experience, knowledge and review of the records that they could reach a differing conclusion?

"... to Crystal when she told her the autopsy report was accurate. She has repeatedly refused to put anything in writing. Under oath, don't expect her to repeat the lie, because the medical community knows the truth."

The medical community? You took a survey?

"As far as lying goes, what proof do you have that Mike Nifong or Crystal Mangum lied?"

It's called the record. Nifong's presser where he described the so called attack was a total fabrication. He had not even spoken to Crystal and not reviewed the file, according to his own words under oath. As a matter of fact in every presser he gave, he admitted under oath that he did not know the facts. So, he either lied under oath or he lied in the pressers. Either way, he lied.

As to Crystal, she told so many mutually exclusive versions of the story that not all of them can be true. The version she told to some media was so different from the versions in the police reports that it's clear she is lying about what went on.

"I don't consider the words of the attorney general to be proof."

You may not, but the Attorney General's special prosecutors backed their words with an investigation. They rounded up the facts and circumstantial evidence. All of which prove the words of their report to be the truth. Very different from your allegations, I should point out.

You allege lies, but don't prove them. You make wild claims that somehow unproven medical malpractice or even voluntary cessation of life support is an intervening cause when that allegation flies in the face of St. v. Welch the controlling legal precedent in this prosecution. You then fail for two years to even address why you think St. v. Welch does not apply. And you want anyone to take you seriously? I think not.

Walt-in-Durham; April 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Anonymous said...: that is up to her lawyer don't you think?; April 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Anonymous said...: " Anonymous said...

Sidney,

How can a jury be selected if:

1. NoOne in NC can obtain a lawyer in NC to represent them against Duke.

2. This case involves the question of the possibility of whether or not Duke killed Mr. Daye in order to frame Ms. Mangum in deciding the murder charges against Ms. Mangum.

3. Most would naturally feel intimidated by the lack of justice when dealing with Duke at any level when they understand that this is the scenario they are being placed in to judge.

4. Therefore, there is no way it seems to obtain a nonbiased jury.

What do you think?"

You might as well be asking for the proverbial moon. SIDNEY has shown he can not think.; April 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Fact is that commenters to this site have already done the background check and have correctly identified the medical school I attended and where I received my postgraduate training.

If I see a train wreck I don't have to be a locomotive engineer to be credible in reporting it. Fact is that a medical background is not required to recognize discrepancies between the autopsy report and other medical reports, including the operative report."

Fact is, with your medical background(internship, no residency, retired 17 years after medical school) you are not capable of recognizing a medical train wreck.; April 9, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Walt said...: Oh, Sid, you might want to look at St. v. Terry, 337 N.C. 615, 447 S.E.2d 720 (1994) before you claim that assault with a deadly weapon is not sufficient to support the felony murder rule. While the state may, or may not be able to prove all the elements at trial, they do have a prima facie case that will survive a motion to dismiss.

Walt-in-Durham; April 9, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I have never had any communication or contact with anyone from the Daye family."

No surprise there.

"I don't know what Mr. Vann knew regarding what Crystal Mangum did with the prosecution discovery... you wouldl have to ask him."

Why don't you?

"I know that people who have been determined to be brain dead have miraculously regained consciousness."

But you do not seem to know that most, the vast majority do not.

"I don't know about available statistics regarding these events, but one publicized locally concerns Joshua Wrenn.

Wrenn's family did not expect a recovery, but kept Joshua on life support for legal reasons at advice of its attorney. Had he been removed from life support after one week, his eventual awakening two months later would never have taken place."

Most people in that condition do not wake up.

"Regarding Reginald Daye, the possibility exists that he, like Wrenn, might have recovered had he remained on life support for several more months."

A much larger possibility exists that he would not have recovered.

"I see a serious problem with prosecutors when they electively remove someone from life support and then charge an individual with murder."

Mr. Daye was on life support because of complications of the stab wound. That you have problems with this is unsurprising. You said you would prevail in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke, that you would humiliate the NC State Bar.

"The prosecutors would have firmer ground to stand on if Daye had died while on life support."

Meanwhile, with a chance of recovery of less tha n 1% probably Mr. Daye and his family would have suffered.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

Someone who has never provided elucidation in the first place can not provide further elucidation.; April 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR(to Walt in Durham):

"As far as lying goes, what proof do you have that Mike Nifong or Crystal Mangum lied? I don't consider the words of the attorney general to be proof."

Corrupt DA NIFONG was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of criminal contempt by lying to the court about the exculpatory evidence. He was also found by the NC State Bar to have lied about exculpatory evidence. That you dismiss those procedures as irrelevant and as Kangaroo courts is irrelevant. You couldn't tell a kangaroo court from a kangaroo gas station.

So far as Crystal, that is self evident. She said she was the victim of a semen depositing rape. Forensic testing showed conclusively that she was not. Ergo, she lied.

Let us know if you require further elucidation.; April 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Anonymous said...: guiowen said...

Sidney said, "Most people who do not visit this site are unaware that Daye's death was due to esophageal intubation, that he was on life support for a week, and its elective removal resulted in his death. Neither are they aware that the autopsy report is fraudulent."

SIDNEY is unaware that that Mr. Daye's death was not due to esophageal intubation.; April 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"What I do not need is an attorney to take my money and send me down the river."

This is probably an admission that you could not get a reputable attorney to represent you in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke.; April 9, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I don't think that the case will go to trial because it is so weak and potentially leaves Duke and the Medical examiner open to scrutiny."

You also thought you would prevail in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke and you would humiliate the NC state bat.

"Scott Holmes was retained by Mangum because he came highly recommended by a couple of her supporters. I do not know him, but I can say that I am not in agreement with what little of his strategy I am aware."

Didn't you claim that you once met him. What is the part of his strategy with you disagree? The part in which he told you to butt out?; April 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Anonymous said...: That sidney harr would even pose a question about proof of lies from nifong and mangum is laughable......
As Walt notes, the contempt conviction was based on Nifong's LIES in court. Of course, I guess sidney is so brillantly superior that he does not have to pay attention to or respect the law....except, when it favors him.
As to Mangum, here's just a tiny sample of her lies..
1. I didn't set the fire....well, yes, I did.
2. they didn't wear condoms....well, yes, they did
3. 20,1.9,6, three guys raped me
4. they suspended me in mid air
5. they ejaculated in and on me
6. it was 11:25, no, it was 11:40, well, no, it was between 12:05 and 12:25AM
7. he had a moustache, well, no, not exactly..it's him if he had a moustache
8. they took my money....no, SHE took my money
9. I was raped, no...I was not raped, well, yes, I was raped
10. I didn't drink anything that night.....well, yeah, guess I did...they made me drink...I didn't fall down the backsteps drunk, I was pushed
11. I'm not a whore**
(Maybe Number Eleven IS true.....maybe she is just a really friendly woman.....); April 9, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Break the Conspiracy said...: Sidney: ”Regarding Reginald Daye, the possibility exists that he, like Wrenn, might have recovered had he remained on life support for several more months. I see a serious problem with prosecutors when they electively remove someone from life support and then charge an individual with murder. The prosecutors would have firmer ground to stand on if Daye had died while on life support.”

Yes, Sidney, it is possible, although not likely, that Daye “might have recovered had he remained on life support for several more months.”

However, from a legal standpoint, this possibility is completely and utterly irrelevant. You know that. The law does not require that an alleged victim be kept alive through life support. You know that. The law does not treat the decision to remove an alleged victim from life support as an intervening cause. You know that. The decision by Daye’s family (not prosecutors) to remove Daye from life support has no effect whatsoever on whether Mangum bears legal responsibility for Daye’s death. None. You know that.

You have repeatedly made this argument and you have repeatedly been warned by posters that you make yourself look ridiculous. Any thought that an accused assailant would have the right to dictate that his brain-dead victim be kept alive to avoid murder charges could only be held by a person totally ignorant of the law and devoid of common sense. As you know, you attracted almost universal ridicule when you made this argument in the pro se filing you drafted for Mangum.

This comment provides additional evidence that the media ignored your allegations that the autopsy report is fraudulent because they do not regard you as credible and not because of a cover-up orchestrated by a massive conspiracy directed by Rae Evans.

I can no longer offer you even my sarcastic support.

This is one of the stupidest comments I have seen. As a result, you have confirmed that you are not a serious poster. I repeat the advice other posters have given you: if you want to be taken seriously, you must avoid making ridiculous statements that make you look like an uninformed moron.

You have a difficult task in convincing others that the Medical Examiner committed fraud, particularly after you reported that Mangum’s own expert supported the findings of the autopsy in an oral report. Your claim that Roberts is lying because she disagrees with you is not compelling.

As you know, posters who claim to be medical professionals rejected your analysis. As you also know, other posters claim to have friends who as medical professionals rejected your analysis. Walt reported that one media outlet had an expert review your allegations and found them groundless. I admit that none of these claims can be verified, but you have provided no expert to support you.

Moreover, you destroyed your credibility several years ago, making your current task even more difficult. Your earlier claim was absurd: DNA evidence was unimportant in a rape investigation in which the attackers were alleged to have ejaculated without using condoms. That preposterous comment suggests that you are either willing to say anything that you imagine may help your argument (suggesting you are dishonest) or incapable of making a valid medical judgment (suggesting you are incompetent).

Unless you can demonstrate that you are credible, you cannot complain when the media does not take you seriously and investigate your claims. Establishing credibility is impossible when you repeatedly act like a complete idiot. You have made yourself a laughingstock.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; April 9, 2013 at 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...: 1. Duke SANE nurse performed the rape test, therefore, no evidence from that kit is admissable as it is all suspect for corruption from conflict of interest.

2. Agree, Dr. Harr's conclusions need to be thoroughly investigated against Duke's medical records and the medical examiners' reports and records by another respected doctor who has NO conflict of interest with Duke or NC or anything to do with this case (maybe someone from another country is needed)

3. NoOne is going to stand to see Ms. Mangum put in jail for the rest of her life for Duke's errors AND continue to utilize duke's services and patronize their donations and charities unless they have no conscious and think they are more special than others - so therefore - all their services, donations, and charities will become suspect of being populated with people of no moral conscious who think they are more special than others. More special equal thinking duke gives an iota about them, when they don't.

4. Those laws you speak of that make Ms. Mangum responsible for Duke's errors needs to be changed or amended to include incidences like with Duke who is only for their ratings and their money, and who show obvious discrimination and ill will toward the accused.; April 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM
Anonymous said...: If you had to defend yourself, but only as a defense and not with murderous intent, nor did you believe in capital punishment, then you too might be upset at a medical facility that then turned around and made fatal medical errors on your attacker AND tried to blame their fault on you.

The hyprocratic oath at Duke is not as prized as other things, like bb - that is the appearance that this case portrays to all. This is fine as long as you have no concern for those who might find themselves in need of duke's medical services. The attorney general should be highly concerned about this case for all the people of NC, unless his judgement of duke is based solely upon bb and not the rights of the people of NC (and elsewhere) to receive medical services at duke free from harm, intimidation, loss of civil rights and legal equality of protection and are required to receive medical services at duke without the ability to receive fair and equal legal representation in case of errors or harm, or other legal issues.; April 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM
Anonymous said...: What are the mechanisms utilized at Duke to transfer a patient from their facility to another as capable in a safe, non-hostile, non-public, non-questioning manner in cases of conflict of interest or other issues of trust and legal ramifications?

Are there any other medical facilities that can claim non conflict of interest with Duke within a reasonable distance to insure the nonexistance of medical actions based upon conflict of interest and to insure that the hipprocratic oath and the trust in sound medical care that it implies is upheld for the wellbeing of the patient and all?; April 9, 2013 at 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...: Break speaks..........:); April 10, 2013 at 3:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Dear Mistrail-recluse, your posts are jibberish. Please go get an English primer or enroll in the nearest community college. Your writing makes no sense.
What Sidney is suggesting is that Mangum, the attacker, should have had control over whether her victim was removed from LS. In fact, Sidney would have Mr. Daye kept hooked up to LS, in a brain dead vegetative state, indefinitely......in order to keep Sister from facing a murder charge. Think of the precedent here. The person charged with a violent crime against another would have control over treatment/care decisions for the victim. Un fxxxxxx believable. I have always known Harr was an ignorant racist halfwit. What is now clear is that his idiocy includes the bizarre idea that potential killers should be in charge of deciding whether to let their victims "die" or simply languish in a ventilator-dependent state........certainly at taxpayer expense.........and with no concern for family wishes. Pure evil in its concept and a true indictment of the moral degenerate, Harr.; April 10, 2013 at 6:14 AM
Anonymous said...: ....."Are there any other medical facilities that can claim non conflict of interest with Duke within a reasonable distance to insure the nonexistance of medical actions based upon conflict of interest and to insure that the hipprocratic oath and the trust in sound medical care that it implies is upheld for the wellbeing of the patient and all?"..... Poster, this is a classic example of illiteracy run amuck....good god, poster, what grade school did you attend?; April 10, 2013 at 6:16 AM
Anonymous said...: ..."1. Duke SANE nurse performed the rape test, therefore, no evidence from that kit is admissable as it is all suspect for corruption from conflict of interest."....
Another idiotic statement by the poster who apparently cannot write coherent sentences.....and who apparently has no clue as to the FACTS in evidence in the case.
Poster, here's a suggestion. Go to Utube and watch the video testimony of the SANE during the Nifong hearing. You need to READ the historical records and educate yourself. You are making a total Axx of yourself....; April 10, 2013 at 6:25 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
.....Sidney says, "So you do believe that anyone who dies as a result from an assault can be charged with first degree murder...? I don't think so."
Wow, brillant statement, sidney. I don't think too many people who die are charged with murder either...

Your intellect is staggering....

I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you.; April 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Taking bets, folks........Vote one if you think the case will go to trial and mangum will be found not guilty of all charges.
Vote two....if you think the case will go to trial and mangum will be convicted of murder, second degree.
Vote three, if you think she will be convicted of manslaughter.
Vote four, if you think a plea deal will be struck and no trial will occur
Vote five, if you have another outcome and tell us what you think that outcome will be.
As for me, right now, I am voting three, conviction, manslaughter

Interesting.

I vote Five. The prosecution will drop all charges against Mangum and the case will not go to trial.; April 10, 2013 at 6:44 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Hey, Walt.

So you do believe that anyone who dies as a result from an assault can be charged with first degree murder...? I don't think so."

You would think wrong.

"The two attorneys you allege I ran off may be competent and even excellent lawyers, but they were doing nothing for Crystal. During their tenure, no investigation was even conducted. During their tenure, no motion to dismiss the baseless charges was filed."

They weren't doing what you wanted, is different from doing nothing. What they were doing was mounting a good defense as opposed to your frivolous one.

"I don't know about her current attorney. Time will tell."

Given your track record, I figure you are already lying to Crystal and planning your next move to further undermine her defense.

"Regarding Dr. Roberts, she lied"

Everyone who disagrees with you is a liar. Did it ever occur to you that based on their experience, knowledge and review of the records that they could reach a differing conclusion?

"... to Crystal when she told her the autopsy report was accurate. She has repeatedly refused to put anything in writing. Under oath, don't expect her to repeat the lie, because the medical community knows the truth."

The medical community? You took a survey?

"As far as lying goes, what proof do you have that Mike Nifong or Crystal Mangum lied?"

It's called the record. Nifong's presser where he described the so called attack was a total fabrication. He had not even spoken to Crystal and not reviewed the file, according to his own words under oath. As a matter of fact in every presser he gave, he admitted under oath that he did not know the facts. So, he either lied under oath or he lied in the pressers. Either way, he lied.

As to Crystal, she told so many mutually exclusive versions of the story that not all of them can be true. The version she told to some media was so different from the versions in the police reports that it's clear she is lying about what went on.

"I don't consider the words of the attorney general to be proof."

You may not, but the Attorney General's special prosecutors backed their words with an investigation. They rounded up the facts and circumstantial evidence. All of which prove the words of their report to be the truth. Very different from your allegations, I should point out.

You allege lies, but don't prove them. You make wild claims that somehow unproven medical malpractice or even voluntary cessation of life support is an intervening cause when that allegation flies in the face of St. v. Welch the controlling legal precedent in this prosecution. You then fail for two years to even address why you think St. v. Welch does not apply. And you want anyone to take you seriously? I think not.

Walt-in-Durham

My, good friend Walt,

I think you should get a grief counsellor lined up soon because you are really going to be broken hearted when the prosecution drops all charges against Mangum and she is cleared of the bogus charges.

Feel free to call me at any time to give you words of comfort to help you get through the difficult time ahead of you.; April 10, 2013 at 6:49 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Oh, Sid, you might want to look at St. v. Terry, 337 N.C. 615, 447 S.E.2d 720 (1994) before you claim that assault with a deadly weapon is not sufficient to support the felony murder rule. While the state may, or may not be able to prove all the elements at trial, they do have a prima facie case that will survive a motion to dismiss.

Walt-in-Durham

Thanks for the reference, Walt. I'll check it out.; April 10, 2013 at 6:59 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I have never had any communication or contact with anyone from the Daye family."

No surprise there.

"I don't know what Mr. Vann knew regarding what Crystal Mangum did with the prosecution discovery... you wouldl have to ask him."

Why don't you?

"I know that people who have been determined to be brain dead have miraculously regained consciousness."

But you do not seem to know that most, the vast majority do not.

"I don't know about available statistics regarding these events, but one publicized locally concerns Joshua Wrenn.

Wrenn's family did not expect a recovery, but kept Joshua on life support for legal reasons at advice of its attorney. Had he been removed from life support after one week, his eventual awakening two months later would never have taken place."

Most people in that condition do not wake up.

"Regarding Reginald Daye, the possibility exists that he, like Wrenn, might have recovered had he remained on life support for several more months."

A much larger possibility exists that he would not have recovered.

"I see a serious problem with prosecutors when they electively remove someone from life support and then charge an individual with murder."

Mr. Daye was on life support because of complications of the stab wound. That you have problems with this is unsurprising. You said you would prevail in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke, that you would humiliate the NC State Bar.

"The prosecutors would have firmer ground to stand on if Daye had died while on life support."

Meanwhile, with a chance of recovery of less tha n 1% probably Mr. Daye and his family would have suffered.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

Someone who has never provided elucidation in the first place can not provide further elucidation.

You have allowed the mainstream media and Dr. Nichols to play a Jedi-mind trick on you. Daye's brain death was due to an esophageal intubation. The intubation was brought on by complications associated with delirium tremens. The stab wound was adequately treated.; April 10, 2013 at 7:04 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"What I do not need is an attorney to take my money and send me down the river."

This is probably an admission that you could not get a reputable attorney to represent you in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke.

No... it's proof that I'm not dumb enough to waste my time and money to hire an attorney.; April 10, 2013 at 7:07 AM
Anonymous said...: boring boring boring, sidney..........give us some new funny material. you are stale as reruns of "As the Stomach Turns"; April 10, 2013 at 7:12 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I don't think that the case will go to trial because it is so weak and potentially leaves Duke and the Medical examiner open to scrutiny."

You also thought you would prevail in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke and you would humiliate the NC state bat.

"Scott Holmes was retained by Mangum because he came highly recommended by a couple of her supporters. I do not know him, but I can say that I am not in agreement with what little of his strategy I am aware."

Didn't you claim that you once met him. What is the part of his strategy with you disagree? The part in which he told you to butt out?

I first met Scott Holmes at Crystal's hearing where she requested to Judge Hudson that Mr. Holmes be appointed to represent her.

It seems to me that his approach to defending Mangum is more in line with what the prosecution would want... to keep things quiet with regards to the press and for her supporters to maintain a low profile. I disagree and feel the better approach would be just the opposite.; April 10, 2013 at 7:13 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
boring boring boring, sidney..........give us some new funny material. you are stale as reruns of "As the Stomach Turns"

I'm a "Bold and Beautiful" fan, myself. But, have a little patience. Part Two of the vog should be posted within the hour.; April 10, 2013 at 7:15 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Break the Conspiracy said...
Sidney: ”Regarding Reginald Daye, the possibility exists that he, you as credible and not because of a cover-up orchestrated by a massive conspiracy directed by Rae Evans.

(Much of comment removed due to length constraints.)

I can no longer offer you even my sarcastic support.

This is one of the stupidest comments I have seen. As a result, you have confirmed that you are not a serious poster. I repeat the advice other posters have given you: if you want to be taken seriously, you must avoid making ridiculous statements that make you look like an uninformed moron.

You have a difficult task in convincing others that the Medical Examiner committed fraud, particularly after you reported that Mangum’s own expert supported the findings of the autopsy in an oral report. Your claim that Roberts is lying because she disagrees with you is not compelling.

As you know, posters who claim to be medical professionals rejected your analysis. As you also know, other posters claim to have friends who as medical professionals rejected your analysis. Walt reported that one media outlet had an expert review your allegations and found them groundless. I admit that none of these claims can be verified, but you have provided no expert to support you.

Moreover, you destroyed your credibility several years ago, making your current task even more difficult. Your earlier claim was absurd: DNA evidence was unimportant in a rape investigation in which the attackers were alleged to have ejaculated without using condoms. That preposterous comment suggests that you are either willing to say anything that you imagine may help your argument (suggesting you are dishonest) or incapable of making a valid medical judgment (suggesting you are incompetent).

Unless you can demonstrate that you are credible, you cannot complain when the media does not take you seriously and investigate your claims. Establishing credibility is impossible when you repeatedly act like a complete idiot. You have made yourself a laughingstock.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.

Hey, Break.

Regarding Joshua Wrenn, I was making the point that his family's attorneys requested that he be kept on life support for legal reasons. As a result, they gained an unexpected benefit... he emerged from his coma.

Laws are man-made and not deified codes handed down from the heavens like manna. Some laws are not moral and some are not fair. To lay the responsibility for death upon someone when their victim is electively taken off life support does not seem to me to be moral or fair. The legality of doing such is a different matter.

Whether or not I am credible, is irrelevant regarding the media's response to my assertions. I am unaware of any media looking into my claim that the autopsy report is false. If I can be given a reference, I would greatly appreciate it.; April 10, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Anonymous said...: No, the media is under no obligation to investigate trash and that is what you are....and that is what your hairbrained assertions are.....trash. I know an idiot who lives near me who is constantly writing letters to the local media, asserting that somebody is guilty of continuously murdering her cats. (the cats have been dead for ten years and were run over by a tractor in a field). You and the whacky neighbor are just the same.....wingnuts who waste other people's time, expecting to be taken seriously, and claiming paranoid fantasies of conspiracy when you don't get to see your face on page one of the N&O. Trash, pure trash....; April 10, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Because uploading video is time-consuming, the posting of Part Two may be delayed. Will try to have it posted as soon as possible.; April 10, 2013 at 7:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Harr is, as usual, distorting the record concerning Joshua Wrenn. Wrenn was in a coma subsequent to an injury sustained during an altercation with a jail officer. Wrenn lost consciousness after a head inury. He suffered muttiple strokes, became paralyzed and lost the ability to breathe adequately. He was NEVER assessed to be brain dead. He was hospitalized at Duke (yes, THAT evil hospital....), and while he was at Duke, under the care of those evil doctors, he regained a minimal level of consciousness. To this day he remains essentially paralyzed, has little use of his extremities, cannot speak, cannot attend to any of his own personal care needs, and shows no recognition of anybody. He obviously suffered extensive brain damage during his multiple strokes, but, I repeat, was never assessed to be brain dead.
The hilarious irony here is that he emerged, at least a bit, from his comatose state while at the evil hospital, Duke, which mistrail-recluse and sidney seem to think .........is the epicenter of rotten care.....and which murdered Daye to get Sister into the slammer.
Last time I heard anything about Wrenn, he was in a nursing home, with no essential independence. Yes, I assume he is still alive. The KEY POINT here is that Sidney has his facts totally wrong and is trying to use Wrenn to illustrate a point......for the third time, Wrenn was not brain dead. Daye was, he was in a flatline vegetative state, and it was his FAMILY's decision, not Duke's, to do the humane thing......to end his suffering....to remove life support. Thank god sidney harr will NEVER practice medicine in North Carolina. what an axx.; April 10, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

Has Duke ever tried to get you to shut down this blog for saying things against yhem.

I would think that if what you were saying was not true, Duke would have tried to get you to stop by now.

Is Duke utilizing the on-line bullying to try to discredit everything you say instead of going to court and getting you to shutdown your blog?; April 10, 2013 at 8:02 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Laws are man-made and not deified codes handed down from the heavens like manna. Some laws are not moral and some are not fair. To lay the responsibility for death upon someone when their victim is electively taken off life support does not seem to me to be moral or fair. The legality of doing such is a different matter."

For the first time in two years, you finally accept, if ever so obliquely, the state of the law. Unfortunately having spent two years ignoring the obvious and still not making an argument you remain unconvincing.

Now tell us why you think the misdemeanor manslaughter rule and felony murder rule are not moral.

Walt-in-Durham; April 10, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt, why do treat Dr. Harr like you do? Why does he have to convince you of anything? If he were wrong, Duke would have told him to stop a long time ago don't you think?; April 10, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Poor anon 8:02 does not seem to be familiar with even the basic premise of free speech on the internet. sad, poster. Harr can basically say what he wishes, within certain limitations. Harr is a certified kook, poster, and, frankly, only kooks-in-training, like you, pay any attention to the dribble he puts on his site. Most of us read this site for the sheer entertainment value of what asshat sidney will be wearing next. He is ignored unless he breaks the law, as he did trying to practice law without a license. He is smacked down HARD by a judge who threw his meritless suit against Duke out of court. He and his asshat pals, like the bigot Victoria Peterson, are an embarrassment to Durham and a HUGE negative force in Mangum's life. If you had any gray matter between your ears, you would pay close attention to Walt, Lance, and the other posters who have repeatedly and clearly demonstrated that Harr is nothing but a racist hater. Grow up, poster, and get your head out of the doctor's posterior; April 10, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR(to Walt in Durham):

"I think you should get a grief counsellor lined up soon because you are really going to be broken hearted when the prosecution drops all charges against Mangum and she is cleared of the bogus charges.

Feel free to call me at any time to give you words of comfort to help you get through the difficult time ahead of you."

SIDNEY shows he can not refute Walt's assertions. He resorts to name calling to cover up his intellectual inadequacy.; April 10, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Anonymous said...: you are a sf to say that to me when i am trying to learn the truth.

what bs; April 10, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Anonymous said...: if you people are so concerned about what Dr. Harr is saying, then go ask Duke to get the guy to stop - it is their job and not yours btw.

why would anyone believe any of ya'll when all the posts are not its not, yes it is, blah blah blah

how any medical organization would stand for this is beyond me

one more reason not to trust them; April 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Anonymous said...: poster, nobody gives a hoot what sidney is saying because he is full of BULL. Can you not even begin to grasp the fundamentals of english communication? can you not even begin to ascertain that this guy is sad little racist man, with delusions about his own ability to get attention for himself, and his own petty waste of other's time? Can you not see a little bit of a pattern here.....when he LOST his ridiculous actions against both the NC Bar and against Duke? Are you so damn dumb that you think the entire national media, NC judicial system, Harvard University, every lawyer in NC, every television station in Raleigh Durham, the Medical Examiner, Dr. Roberts, is controlled by Rae Evans......in an evil conspiracy led by white people....whose sole intent in life is to put Sister in prison? Are you deluded enough yourself to think that physicians at Duke would murder Reginald Daye? Once again, poster, grow up. Oh, by the way, you truly do need to ask sidney for a little yellow t-shirt and a secret decoder ring. You fit right in with the club; April 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Apparently the infamous dr. harr is not quite able to tell the difference between someone who is in a coma, on a ventilator....who regains some level of consciousness........and.....a person like Reginald Daye who was brain dead, scoring flat-line, and who was, AT THE FAMILY'S DIRECTION, removed from life support. Damn, Sidney, been a long time since you practiced, huh?; April 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Must be a new secret code in the sidney club....."bb, sf"....ROFL.....:); April 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey, Walt or Lance, any idea about when a ruling Cline's case will be made? Technically, can she practice law currently in NC? I assume she can, as she has not lost her license at this point? right? just wondering....; April 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Anonymous said...: do you understand when someone says in english to stop bullying them and others? no one really gives a damn about the lacrosse case. It was a huge burden to the state of nc and many others, and apparently still is.

don't read my posts - and if you do - don't bully me about them

understand?; April 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...: you must have some kind of fetish for the word "bully"? you use it frequently...... your posts are unintelligible, poorly written, loaded with run-on sentences, etc. Because others disagree with your harr hero-worship, it's not bullying, poster.....as the other poster noted above, grow up; April 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Anonymous said...: i think it is immature of ya'll to tell someone who is trying to be respectful that they are entitled to a yellow tshirt and decoder ring, etc (to put it nicely) don't you?

Why do i have to be mean to Dr. Harr to ask him a question from your presepective? I mean - not why do you feel the need to be mean to him and anyone who is respectful to him - but why do you expect all others to do the same or else?; April 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: Anonymous @ 12:29 pm:

Tracey Cline still has her license (she was supposed to have a NC state bar disciplinary hearing, but it was postponed until after a state Court of Appeals rules on her dismissal from office).

The appeals court met in February (12th or 13th) but has yet to issue a written opinion....Although they promised to deliver one "in the near future".; April 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM
guiowen said...: Dear mistrail-recluse,
You don't seem to understand the way blogs work. People can write what they want, so long as they don't actually threaten you.
They can disagree with you and point this out. You can call us all bullies if you wish; most of us will simply accept your name-calling and consider it indicative of your intellectual weakness.

You can ask Sidney anything you want; whether he answers you or not is up to him. The rest of us don't believe much of what he says.; April 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Anonymous said...: gee thanks

now that that's settled - don't bully me again - i've asked several times now; April 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Anonymous said...: As lance has said, in a perfectly civil way, head for the kitchen door if the thermostat is too high for you. Otherwise, stop your whine and continue with your poorly written posts. LMFAO.......; April 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Hey, Break.

Regarding Joshua Wrenn, I was making the point that his family's attorneys requested that he be kept on life support for legal reasons. As a result, they gained an unexpected benefit... he emerged from his coma."

That is irrelevant to the Daye case.

"Laws are man-made and not deified codes handed down from the heavens like manna. Some laws are not moral and some are not fair. To lay the responsibility for death upon someone when their victim is electively taken off life support does not seem to me to be moral or fair. The legality of doing such is a different matter."

Even if the victim ended up on life support because of complications from a stab wound Crystal inflicted on him. I echo break. You think Reginald Daye should have been kept on life support indefinitely to keep Crystal from being charged with a crime that caused his death.

"Whether or not I am credible, is irrelevant regarding the media's response to my assertions."

Yes it is relevant. You expect the media to accept your incredible uncorroborated allegations as truth.

"I am unaware of any media looking into my claim that the autopsy report is false."

That is because you claim that the autopsy report is false is not corroborated and not credible.

"If I can be given a reference, I would greatly appreciate it."

Have you finally decided to find a psychiatrist so you can get your deluded megalomania treated? If so, that would only be to your benefit and Crystal's.; April 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I first met Scott Holmes at Crystal's hearing where she requested to Judge Hudson that Mr. Holmes be appointed to represent her.

It seems to me that his approach to defending Mangum is more in line with what the prosecution would want... to keep things quiet with regards to the press and for her supporters to maintain a low profile. I disagree and feel the better approach would be just the opposite."

In other words, you are going to try to get Crystal to dismiss him too.; April 10, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Seems to me I recall some big explosive proof Sidney was going to blow up the state with........concerning a beating he claims Mangum had taken from Daye a month before she stabbed him. Medical records? Photos of this wild beatin? A police report , assuming she filed charges against this drunken maniac?
I also recall the boiling water story.......and the Clark statement that he supposedly talked to Mangum an hour before she stabbed Daye........and the photos to show the hour of sheer terror, head banging, face punching, strangulation............?????? Hmmmmm, so much bull, so little time. July approaches, Sidney. Your black panther "princess" best ramp up the pace if she is going to walk free .....; April 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous April 10, 2013 at 8:02 AM

"Sidney,

Has Duke ever tried to get you to shut down this blog for saying things against yhem(sic).

I would think that if what you were saying was not true, Duke would have tried to get you to stop by now.

Is Duke utilizing the on-line bullying to try to discredit everything you say instead of going to court and getting you to shutdown your blog?"

Why would Duke waste the money to get a legal team to prove what SIDNEY is saying is wrong. SIDNEY, himself, makes it glaringly obvious he is wrong.

As Teddy Roosevelt would say, BULLY!; April 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Anonymous said...: no, i think you guys try to discredit him actually from what i've seen so far.

why would duke stop him if he were lying? one would be so people like me don't get beat up by people who are driven by duke's media driven hatred towards others - to start with. the next would be the obvious loss of trust in their ability to provide sound medical services and an environment free from hostility, intimidation, malicious prosecution, loss of civil rights and legal protection, etc. i am sure there are more reasons; April 10, 2013 at 2:00 PM
guiowen said...: Dear mistrail-recluse,
Why don't you go visit Sidney and have a pleasant, private conversation with him? You won't get bullied by all the haters here.
If you don't have Sidney's address, send him an email. That's also nice and private.; April 10, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: Anonymous @ 6:16am, @8:02am, @2:00pm (I assume from the writing this is all the same person):

I suggest you attempt to follow common sentence guidelines and ensure your sentences follow the subject/predicate/object structure.

If you are unfamiliar with these guidelines, please let me know and I will post information and examples for you.; April 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Thx lance. Looking forward to hearing how the court rules on her appeal; April 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney: Whether or not I am credible is irrelevant regarding the media's response to my assertions.

I agree. The media have an obligation to cover, investigate and respond to every allegation they receive.

Like you, I contacted numerous media outlets. In my case, I attempted to get coverage of my allegation that Martians plan to invade New York City in June. I provided evidence, but received no response. Like you, I interpret their failure to respond as proof that they take me seriously and that the cover-up was dictated by Rae Evans and the Carpetbagger Jihad.; April 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...: you guys only make yourselves look like fools by continually harping on me. why don't you stop hating everyone who talks about these cases not to your liking? is there a specific reason for that (your inability to not hate others who post on this list if they are not in the same world view as yours)?; April 10, 2013 at 4:28 PM
guiowen said...: Frankly, we just enjoy teasing you.; April 10, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Anonymous said...: To the new poster:

I am anxious to get more details on your criticism of Duke. I believe many see Duke as a large institution that frequently uses its significant influence in unhealthy ways.

However, your comments are somewhat unclear. You rely to too great an extent on innuendo.

It would be far more helpful if you provided specific examples. Are you personally a victim? Who did Duke harm? What did they do to harm these victims? When did these tragic events occur? Are you focused on the Medical Center or is the University at fault.

Specific details will help other posters understand exactly what abuses Duke has committed.

Thanks.; April 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM
Anonymous said...: if the people in this crowd still need this case explained to them, i am not the one to fill them in - sorry; April 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Anonymous said...: obviously g..., i have asked ya'll to stop because i wasn't amused. thanks; April 10, 2013 at 5:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Dear Poster, if you believe the crap sidney harr is feeding you, then I suggest you go down to East Duirham, stand on the street corner, and wait for somebody to approach you about buying a watch. Are you really that dumb? Or, perhaps you should just send him some money......a grand or two to support his cause......who knows, you might get your little yellow t-shirt and a secret decoder ring! wheeeeee; April 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Yep, it took about a week for sidney to start his crap about Holmes. Pretty soon we will begin to hear how Mr. Holmes is in cahoots with Rae Evans. Didn't take long, did it? poor sidney, he is becoming so predictable.......racism really is rather boring, isn't it.; April 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Anonymous said...: sidney, you really need to come up with some fresh conspiracy theory and racist bullshit. Perhaps you need to investigate whether Obama is actually a white man in drag, led around by the nose....by Rae Evans...and in league with Joe Biden. Or maybe you should find out if Nifong is really Jesus in drag. Or whether Mistrail recluse is nifong wife.....?????; April 10, 2013 at 5:10 PM
Anonymous said...: if the people in this crowd still need this case explained to them, i am not the one to fill them in - sorry

To the new poster:

I am sorry. I did not realize that you were talking only about this case. I thought you were using this case to draw comparisons to other incidents.

I suppose that it would have been clearer if your were more specific. Too much innuendo can be hard to follow.

Sorry.; April 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Anonymous said...: you alone imply innuendo, not me

this is a very sad case from any perspective, like i said

there are no winners; April 10, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Anonymous said...: feeling sad for anybody but Mr. Daye and his family and his family is an insult to him. surely you don't mean to imply we should conjure up some sadness for Mangum, the professional victim. Feeling sorry for her is like feeling sorry for the scum who murdered Eve Carson. Sorry, I would just as soon both of them fry in a skillet as live. In her case, if Mangum is found guilty, then she should pay the price. Feeling sad? Nope.....Disgusted, tired of this piece of trash, tired of her crimes, tired of her endless "it is not my fault" horse manure, and tired of the sidney hard racist diatribe that he spews....soley to draw attention to himself. Sidney harr is a pathetic figure......losing power, losing attention, and losing credibility.; April 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...: please do not feed the troll.....please.....; April 10, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Anonymous said...: The latest word on Wrenn is that he is in a nursing home, requiring full continuous care, unable to do much of anything, and unable to recognize his family. His family made the decisions in his care, just as the Daye family made theirs. thank god and jesus that decisions like removal from LS are not made by unethical quacks like Harr. I sure as hell would not want my loved ones touched by this guy.; April 10, 2013 at 6:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Mangum deserves a fair trial. She deserves and, hopefully, will keep good professional counsel. And she deserves the justice of a jury verdict. If Sidney Harr is correct and the state decides between now and July to drop all charges against Mangum, I suppose we will all be very surprised. Very surprised.......because there is no indication that the state plans to do so. But, it's Durham and stranger things have happened. Who would have thought Nifong would happen? Or Cline? Who would have thought OJ would be found innocent? Who would have thought.....indeed? So, let's not discount Harr's wild claims........Mangum could be a free woman before Independence Day.
As to the question of voting on what I think will happen.......I vote that she will go to trial, be found guilty of manslaughter and be given a sentence of five years in prison, less time served.; April 11, 2013 at 3:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney has thrown so many red herrings at the Daye case. He hopes one will stick.....and none have. Taking a step back from all of Harr's claims......Mangum and Daye had an argument, it got physical and she used a deadly weapon. I doubt she intended to murder him. Walt, correct me.....but doesn't this sound like a relatively straightforward manslaughter case? I know there is the business of the larceny charge.....I am just not really sure how the state got to first degree murder with this. As we all know, both Nifong and Cline had a record of overcharging and cutting plea deals.....making their conviction rates look good. Since she was involved when Daye was stabbed, I guess it's obvious what happened......at least, it seems so. I don't see any evidence that Mangum is being treated any differently than any other person in a similar circumstance.......except, perhaps, she is being given more leniency........in that her bail was reduced to amazingly low amount for a murder charge.....and her shenanigans with court appointed attorneys were treated with more patience than I would have expected. The fact that she is out on bail, with a murder charge, and no restrictions on her movement.....also seems pretty generous. I assume she is no flight risk.; April 11, 2013 at 4:30 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
The latest word on Wrenn is that he is in a nursing home, requiring full continuous care, unable to do much of anything, and unable to recognize his family. His family made the decisions in his care, just as the Daye family made theirs. thank god and jesus that decisions like removal from LS are not made by unethical quacks like Harr. I sure as hell would not want my loved ones touched by this guy.

Thanks for the update on Mr. Wrenn, but before I accept it as accurate I would request that you give me a source or link to back up your statements.

Legally, however, Mr. Wrenn is alive, and the correctional officers or police responsible for beating him into a coma cannot be charged with murder or manslaughter... am I right?; April 11, 2013 at 6:38 AM
Anonymous said...: I don't give a damn whether you accept it accurate. that is your problem. not mine. yes, Wrenn is still alive, as far as I know. You IGNORE the real point here........which is, of course, your styl.e Wrenn was never
brain dead, sidney. got it?
I will also point out to you, as has been done repeatedly, that state v. welch is relevant and that but-for causation applies. I will also point out that Mr. daye was taken off LS with the consent and direction of his FAMILY. good god, sidney, are you really that dumb?
Actually, the correctional officer(s) involved were charged and disciplined, appropriately.
Wrenn has absolutely nothing to do with any aspect of the Daye case and you know it. Stop pretending it does. We ALL know your methods, sidney.....
oh, by the way, give the posters on this site your CV to prove you are who you claim to be. how about that? None of us will accept as accurate your claims until you do. tit for tat, pal; April 11, 2013 at 6:47 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
I don't give a damn whether you accept it accurate. that is your problem. not mine. yes, Wrenn is still alive, as far as I know. You IGNORE the real point here........which is, of course, your styl.e Wrenn was never
brain dead, sidney. got it?
I will also point out to you, as has been done repeatedly, that state v. welch is relevant and that but-for causation applies. I will also point out that Mr. daye was taken off LS with the consent and direction of his FAMILY. good god, sidney, are you really that dumb?
Actually, the correctional officer(s) involved were charged and disciplined, appropriately.
Wrenn has absolutely nothing to do with any aspect of the Daye case and you know it. Stop pretending it does. We ALL know your methods, sidney.....
oh, by the way, give the posters on this site your CV to prove you are who you claim to be. how about that? None of us will accept as accurate your claims until you do. tit for tat, pal

I have no personal knowledge about Mr. Wrenn. All I can go by is what is reported in the media, and the media has stated that Joshua Wrenn was in a coma for two months.

As far as my cv goes, do you have the cv of Dr. Clay Nichols or Dr. Christena L. Roberts? My professional history is online. Put in a little effort and look it up yourself instead of bellyaching.; April 11, 2013 at 6:58 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney,

Has Duke ever tried to get you to shut down this blog for saying things against yhem.

I would think that if what you were saying was not true, Duke would have tried to get you to stop by now.

Is Duke utilizing the on-line bullying to try to discredit everything you say instead of going to court and getting you to shutdown your blog?

I really am unaware of what action, if any, Duke University has or is taking against me or this blog site. If I learn of any, I will be sure to make it known.

Most of my time is not spent trying to see what other people or entities are doing, but rather concentrating on what I have to do.; April 11, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Laws are man-made and not deified codes handed down from the heavens like manna. Some laws are not moral and some are not fair. To lay the responsibility for death upon someone when their victim is electively taken off life support does not seem to me to be moral or fair. The legality of doing such is a different matter."

For the first time in two years, you finally accept, if ever so obliquely, the state of the law. Unfortunately having spent two years ignoring the obvious and still not making an argument you remain unconvincing.

Now tell us why you think the misdemeanor manslaughter rule and felony murder rule are not moral.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, I'm not the only one who thinks the "felony-murder rule" is unethical. Many people and organizations are committed to seeing that it is done away with. The main problem with it is that it can be used to saddle someone with trangent involvement in a crime with a lifelong sentence... and prosecutors readily abuse it against defendants of color.

Therefore, not only is it a bad law, but it is a bad law that is applied unequally and discriminately.

Do you believe that the "felony-murder rule" is a good law? If so, tell me why.; April 11, 2013 at 7:08 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR(to Walt in Durham):

"I think you should get a grief counsellor lined up soon because you are really going to be broken hearted when the prosecution drops all charges against Mangum and she is cleared of the bogus charges.

Feel free to call me at any time to give you words of comfort to help you get through the difficult time ahead of you."

SIDNEY shows he can not refute Walt's assertions. He resorts to name calling to cover up his intellectual inadequacy.

What name calling?; April 11, 2013 at 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Wren was in a coma. He was not brain dead. there is a difference. a physician would know this. you have never established any expertise in any of the medical specialties that are/were relevant in the care of reginald daye. ergo, you are not qualified to make any judgments aout the care provided or the conclusions made by nichols.
nichols and roberts' professional CVs ARE readily available online. why don't you look them up for yourself and find out what kind of qualifications these physicians have, and stop your bellyaching about the physicians who were directly involved with daye. Are you now, or were you ever, board certified any forensics, pathology, general or trauma surgery, cardiothoracic surgery, pulmonary medicine?; April 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

Happy Innocence Day!

Six years ago, Cooper announced the findings of the special prosecutors' investigation. That investigation found no evidence that the crimes for which the defendants had been indicted had even occurred and substantial additional evidence that those crimes did not occur. As a result, Cooper announced that he and the special prosecutors had concluded that the defendants were innocent of the charges.

Since that time, intellectually dishonest individuals have attempted to create straw man arguments, claiming that Cooper did not have the "power" as an executive to declare the defendants innocent and that his statement had no legal effect. No informed person has ever made such a claim. Because the defendants had not been found guilty in a court of law, they were innocent under the law prior to Cooper's statement and they remained innocent under the law after his statement. Cooper's statement had no legal effect. These intellectually dishonest individuals try to pretend Cooper did not have the power to discuss the results of the investigation and to draw conclusions because he does not have the power to change their legal status as innocent--even though no change occurred and no change was required.

These intellectually dishonest individuals also use innuendo to pretend that there exists credible evidence that casts doubt on the defendants' innocence. They imply that Cooper and the special prosectors are liars. They imply that Baker is a liar because he supported Cooper's conclusion. They imply Himan is a liar when he testified under oath that he had concluded that Mangum did not tell the truth about anything. They imply Nifong is a liar when he concluded that there was "no credible evidence" to support the accusations.

When asked what evidence supports their doubt as to innocence, there intellectually dishonest people provide no support, claiming only that they have not seen the entire discovery file and do not know what incriminating information has not been released. However, many of these intellectually dishonest people believe they are able to proclaim the "innocence" of defendants in other cases--prior to a trial and without having seen the entire discovery file. They decline to answer when pressed as to the apparent difference. Apparently they have rights not held by others.

Happy Innocence Day!; April 11, 2013 at 7:15 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Wren was in a coma. He was not brain dead. there is a difference. a physician would know this. you have never established any expertise in any of the medical specialties that are/were relevant in the care of reginald daye. ergo, you are not qualified to make any judgments aout the care provided or the conclusions made by nichols.
nichols and roberts' professional CVs ARE readily available online. why don't you look them up for yourself and find out what kind of qualifications these physicians have, and stop your bellyaching about the physicians who were directly involved with daye. Are you now, or were you ever, board certified any forensics, pathology, general or trauma surgery, cardiothoracic surgery, pulmonary medicine?

Brain death is a subjective determination which does not always prove to be the case. Mr. Wrenn was considered to be brain dead according to the news articles, and the reason given for his family not removing him from life support was legal advice from the family lawyers.; April 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Anonymous said...: if the investigation, trial, and final determination were done right to begin with - you would not still be banging us over the head with this innocence. why do you have to keep putting other people down to prove innocence? does that create more innocence - or make people wonder even more about the actual innocence?

get real - happy innocence day for year seven to - we get it - thanks

btw, try actually living in a state run like NC - you will begin to see the irrevalance to your continued incisstance of innocence and why so many are so frustrated by the entire system and why the truly bad attitudes and lack of respect - like having innocence in the form of continued sexually explicit information broadcasts, etc. pounded into society at large to prove innocence - what fun (NOT)

try caring about others in NC for a change - and stop pounding us over the head with this innocence bit - do you know how many crimes you are causing - do you think about it - do you care?; April 11, 2013 at 7:34 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney: Whether or not I am credible is irrelevant regarding the media's response to my assertions.

I agree. The media have an obligation to cover, investigate and respond to every allegation they receive.

Like you, I contacted numerous media outlets. In my case, I attempted to get coverage of my allegation that Martians plan to invade New York City in June. I provided evidence, but received no response. Like you, I interpret their failure to respond as proof that they take me seriously and that the cover-up was dictated by Rae Evans and the Carpetbagger Jihad.

What evidence or leads did you give to the media? Any photographs of the Martians or their flying saucer? Any documents written in Martian?

I provided the media with prosecution discovery documents and spoon-fed them information about how the autopsy report was contradicted by other medical records. Everything the media needs to use to investigate my claims are on my blog site.

There's a big difference between your situation and mine. If you come up with some information about these Martians, notify me and I will investigate and report my findings online.; April 11, 2013 at 7:37 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Wren was in a coma. He was not brain dead. there is a difference. a physician would know this. you have never established any expertise in any of the medical specialties that are/were relevant in the care of reginald daye. ergo, you are not qualified to make any judgments aout the care provided or the conclusions made by nichols.
nichols and roberts' professional CVs ARE readily available online. why don't you look them up for yourself and find out what kind of qualifications these physicians have, and stop your bellyaching about the physicians who were directly involved with daye. Are you now, or were you ever, board certified any forensics, pathology, general or trauma surgery, cardiothoracic surgery, pulmonary medicine?

Brain death is a subjective determination which does not always prove to be the case. Mr. Wrenn was considered to be brain dead according to the news articles, and the reason given for his family not removing him from life support was legal advice from the family lawyers.; April 11, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Anonymous said...: Nope, incorrect but nice try, sidney. were you ever really a physician? Brain death is an objective state, measurable by electrical activity in the brain, among other measures. Wrenn was never described as brain dead. Who gives a damn that the family had input from their lawyers as they made their decision. That is totally beside the point. The point, which apparently is just too difficult for you, is that the FAMILY made the decision, not the hospital or the physicians.......just as the FAMILY of Mr. Daye made their decision. Once again, Wrenn is totally irrevelant .
you really need to remember that you have been told for several years, by Walt and others who are high experienced attorneys, that you should read state v welch.; April 11, 2013 at 8:15 AM
guiowen said...: Anonymous said,
"stop pounding us over the head with this innocence bit - do you know how many crimes you are causing - do you think about it - do you care?"

So, tell us how many crimes they are, indeed, causing. Tell us about some of them.; April 11, 2013 at 9:05 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "Mr. Wrenn was considered to be brain dead according to the news articles"

According to this news article, it was the family that thought he was brain dead.

The article goes on to state that Mr. Wrenn was in a coma.

Of course, as a medical professional, Sid recognizes that "coma" and "brain death" are recognized as separate entities according to the international classification of diseases.

"Brain death" is defined as the "irreversible end of all brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation."

As such, it is not a " subjective determination"; April 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Correct lance. Spot on. You would think a physician would know the difference. I guess it has been a long time since Sidney was in medical. School.; April 11, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Harr keep blathering about keeping Daye alive to avoid a murder charge for the woman who killed him.. Amazing isn't is. Perhaps the principle should apply whenever somebody is brain dead at the hands of a killer.......like a drunk who mows down a family and leaves one of five of them brain dead. The other four were just plain old dead. So I guess number five should still be hooked up in a vent unit someplace.....so the drunk killer would only be guilty of four mushers and one brain dead soul.
Nichols is right. She stabbed him. He died. And she is going to go to prison. Stick that in your elucidation doctor; April 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Anonymous said...: That evil murdering hospital was where Wrenn came out of his coma. Gosh I guess they forgot to kill him.....; April 11, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Anonymous said...: obviously the one stab wound that was successfully treated the first day in Duke hospital did not cause the "irreversible end of all brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation."; April 11, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment:

"Of course, as a medical professional, Sid recognizes that 'coma' and 'brain death' are recognized as separate entities according to the international classification of diseases."

I think you are presuming an awful lot when you call SIDNEY a Medical Professional :-).; April 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous April 11, 2013 at 10:23 AM:

"obviously the one stab wound that was successfully treated the first day in Duke hospital did not cause the "irreversible end of all brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation."

Correct! It was the complications which ensued, complications which never would have happened if Mr. Daye had not been stabbed in the first place.

However, I would not call this individual a winner-just totalyb deluded.; April 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said April 11, 2013 at 10:12 AM

"Correct lance. Spot on. You would think a physician would know the difference. I guess it has been a long time since Sidney was in medical. School."

Sidney graduated from Medical school in 1974. He retired in 1991, not exactly a long career for a doc.He did one year of internship, suggesting he could not get into a residency program. Not a very distinguished background.; April 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Anonymous said...: I agree. An undistinguished medical education at best. And later, civil suits that got him arrested. Nice. Sure must have been helpful to have a spouse to cover is backside.; April 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Anonymous said...: snobs; April 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: Anonymous @ 10:23 said: "obviously the one stab wound that was successfully treated the first day in Duke hospital did not cause the 'irreversible end of all brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation.' "

All of Daye's injuries resulted from the stabbing inflicted by Crystal Mangum. If not for Crystal's act, Daye would not have needed treatment, and would still be alive.

This legal concept is "proximate cause".

For those with the interest to read it, here's State v. Welch.

I think you'll see a number of parallels to Crystal Mangum's current case.; April 11, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Duke's medical errors are Not Ms. Mangum's fault, nor would anyone of moral conscious demand she serve jail time for Duke's actions in this case.; April 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM
A lawyer said...: Anonymous,
Have you read State v. Welch?; April 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM
guiowen said...: Anonymous said:
"nor would anyone of moral conscious [sic] demand she serve jail time..."

Is your name Cline?; April 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Anonymous said...: obviously duke is well aware of that case - no doubts there; April 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid, Who's your daddy?; April 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "Duke's medical errors are Not Ms. Mangum's fault, nor would anyone of moral conscious demand she serve jail time for Duke's actions in this case"

So far, no active medical professional who has reviewed the data has identified a medical error on the part of DUMC.

A number of active medical professionals have on the other hand, reviewed the data that Sid has posted on this site and come to the same conclusion as the State Medical Examiner.

This list of medical professionals includes an anonymous surgeon who sometimes posts here AND Dr. Christena Roberts, Crystal Mangum's own expert witness.

So I challenge you, Anonymous. Please provide 1 active medical professional who, after reviewing all the evidence, will confirm Sid's conclusion that Reginald Daye's death was the result of medical error.; April 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, I'm not the only one who thinks the "felony-murder rule" is unethical. Many people and organizations are committed to seeing that it is done away with."

Really? Who? How is it unethical?

"The main problem with it is that it can be used to saddle someone with trangent involvement in a crime with a lifelong sentence..."

Trangent? That's not a word. Do you tangent?

"... and prosecutors readily abuse it against defendants of color."

Prove it. You are long on unsubstantiated claims and short on proof.

"Therefore, not only is it a bad law, but it is a bad law that is applied unequally and discriminately."

The rule dates from the 12th Century and has been a part of American common law since the founding of our country. Indeed, the rule was common law in England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales before the founding of our country. Even in jurisdictions like North Carolina where we have abolished common law crimes, the felony murder rule has been incorporated into statute. So, tell me why with evidence and logic we should overturn nine centuries of precedent.

"Do you believe that the "felony-murder rule" is a good law? If so, tell me why."

I am neither in the Legislature nor on the Supreme Court, but I can read the cases. The felony murder rule in North Carolina is well established law. It has not even been challenged in the courts in years. Of course to challenge the law in court, Crystal will have to get convicted of Murder I under the felony murder rule. I suspect that is what you have been angling at all along. Sell Crystal a false sense of security about the autopsy when your real goal was to get her convicted of Murder I so you could possibly appeal and try to get the Supreme Court to overturn the statute. She'll rot in prison for a long time for you to do that.

Walt-in-Durham; April 11, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

How did you celebrate Innocence Day? Did you and Crystal and the J4N gang go to the Platinum Club for dinner? Did Crystal take you to the VIP lounge? Did Crystal give her "I am a cop" routine after a few drinks? Did you buy Mikey a new bathrobe? Go back to your apartment and burn a few clothes in the bathtub in a "controlled burn"? Did you conduct some scientific experiments, where the male guests ejaculated in Crystal's mouth without leaving any DNA? Did anyone volunteer to be stabbed by Crystal to prove the wound she inflicted in Daye could not have been fatal?

I hope you had a good time.; April 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM
Anonymous said...: nice challenge - sorry - i know no lawyers or doctors who could help in this case - but if i did - i would get them to get those records, review them, show me what their talking about, and then press charges against duke if what Dr. Harr is saying is true - motive being a hate crime against both Ms. Mangum and Mr. Daye in the commission of the crime of murder - that is how I see Duke from what I have seen of them so far. the hatred against Ms. Mangum, etc., on this list is proof of what the entire state of NC was subjected to for years from the case, and it is non-ending.

The negative consequences to life and limb from Duke's hateful actions has affected all through their hateful and malicious decisions of action during that case and since then.

can i prove that statement?
it would be a challenge and would require a lawyer.

so - hey - anyone else out there who can help us in the challenge of finding a lawyer and another doctor with no conflicts of interest to help get this case resolved?

you guys are lucky to have Dr. Harr keeping an eye on duke since no one else seems to.; April 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM
Anonymous said...: a. The injustice system and reality in NC that is portrayed on this blog as Justice for Nifong effects the entire state of NC, not just Durham or Duke or Nifong, etc., because Duke has made itself a leader in NC, and therefore exerts their influence and the potential for this injustice and chaos and harm throughout the state of NC (and beyond).

b. To have this type blog and the actions it clearly portrays about a power that has the ability to affect so many in ways that can translate to the loss of life and limb, and the ability to receive even the basic of civil rights, legal protections, and sound medical practices, procedures, and actions is indicative of the need for change and the making of the stand for the people against this power - which is Duke, et. al.

3. All the lawyers and doctors needed to get the job done for the people in getting Duke to stop its maliciously harmful behavior towards the people of NC, (and elsewhere), can be found at whatever government agency is set up to oversee this type menace from Duke. Unfortunately, the tentacles of Duke’s conflict of interest reaches deep into most of those agencies. That seems to be a very real problem for all, as all have been negatively affected by these cases.

What government agencies regulate Duke? That is who needs to take charge of investigating this case further in order to get Duke to stop their malicious behavior for all.; April 11, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Anonymous said...: There is the over-riding feeling that 'they' (they being those normally considered the powers that be in the one percent range of income in the world) would seriously appreciate if another race riot or something similar took place in Durham/duke land in order for more support for gun laws and civil order that will enable them to deprive all American citizens of even more civil rights, liberties, and the pursuit of justice as outlined in the constitution and the bill of rights.

That is a possibility. So, achieving a change in nonviolent manner - yet still achieving the goals of liberty and justice for all by change if needed - as in the example given by all great civil rights leaders is paramount in this case - unless you actually want to play right into their hands - which most don't (since most are not of the one percent yet still hold the same rights as them in USA, and have the same and equal rights for the legal and judicial system to support and enforce those rights.; April 12, 2013 at 2:41 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous April 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM

"i know no lawyers or doctors who could help in this case - but if i did - i would get them to get those records, review them, show me what their talking about, and then press charges against duke..."

So what are you saying about SIDNEY BARR, whom you address as Dr. Harr?; April 12, 2013 at 3:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr is not a lawyer, and needs another expert witness to back his claims.; April 12, 2013 at 4:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous,

I think you are on to a successful defense strategy.

Sidney has been too stubborn to pay attention to Walt and others. A mistake is not sufficient to eliminate Crystal's responsibility for Daye's death. Murder, on the other hand, is an intervening cause.

Alleging murder is the hard part. Proving it should be easy.; April 12, 2013 at 5:27 AM
Anonymous said...: I wasn't actually talking about a defense, but I guess if it were the reality, it would be part of the case. I say that because my understanding of her legal defense is very limited at this point in time and based only on what I have read here in the past few days. I am under the impression that the stab wound was incurred in the act of self-defense, which is all I have to say about that. I was talking more about getting charges pressed against Duke for committing the error in the first place, whether it was murder per se or not, since they should have at least taken a higher standard of care with Mr. Daye to perserve the integrity of the legal case and not put themselves at risk for the question of murder or intentional harm, since their animosity and conflict of interest with Ms. Mangum is well known. Using their professional negligent care as part of the defense and why she should not be responsible for Mr. Dayes death is easily understood I would think.

The castle doctrine passed into law during the trying of this case, and needs to be considered for all, as this case would apply to all in self-defense cases I would think, but I do not know.; April 12, 2013 at 6:19 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 6:19 wrote: "Using their professional negligent care as part of the defense and why she should not be responsible for Mr. Dayes death is easily understood I would think."

You would think wrong. St. v. Welch. Medical malpractice is not an intervening cause to prevent the application of the felony murder rule or the misdemeanor manslaughter rule. It is better to be thought a fool than write and remove all doubt. You, have removed all doubt.

Walt-in-Durham; April 12, 2013 at 7:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Good walt, you don't think deeply enough about this case and its consequences for all, and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about because you do not. thanks; April 12, 2013 at 7:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous April 12, 2013 at 4:02 AM

"Dr. Harr is not a lawyer, and needs another expert witness to back his claims."

No competent medical expert witness would ever back up what SIDNEY claims about the Daye stabbing, e.g. Christena Roberts.; April 12, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous April 12, 2013 at 6:19 AM

"Using their professional negligent care as part of the defense and why she should not be responsible for Mr. Dayes death is easily understood I would think."

The question is how to prove Reginald Daye's care was negligent. SIDNEY HARR is the only individual with an MD degree who has alleged that Duke was negligent. As you yourself have stated, SIDNEY would need expert witnesses to establish negligence. A number of expert witnesses have weighed in, including Crystal's expert, Dr. Roberts, and they have agreed Duke was not negligent.

So, again, how would you prove negligence?; April 12, 2013 at 9:47 AM
Anonymous said...: I posted the comment of April 12, 2013 at 9:47 AM.

Dr. Anonymous(as the now absent KENHYDERAL used to call me).; April 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous April 12, 2013 at 7:53 AM

"Good walt, you don't think deeply enough about this case and its consequences for all, and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about because you do not. thanks"

Could you explain how the defense would prove medical negligence killed Reginald Daye? SIDNEY HARR, who has no credentials which would establish him as an expert witness, alleges so. No physician with credentials as an expert, including Chiristena Roberts, calls it negligence.

Dr. Anonymous; April 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Oh I get it. The clown who can't spell mistrial and who wants a judge to recluse himself.......now tells Walt that he is wrong about the law. Well, golly , poster of dazzling intelligence, you really are a smart person. Wow golly and gee whiz. Damn, Walt, or is it Waly, as mistrail recluse calls you, guess you need to go back to criminal law 101. Too funny.........
Be careful lance......you're next, along with guiowen and me.......we are the evil blue horned croooooooonies; April 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "The negative consequences to life and limb from Duke's hateful actions has affected all through their hateful and malicious decisions of action during that case and since then."

What "negative consequences"? What
"hateful actions"? What "malicious decisions of action"?

Please provide examples, otherwise this is simply ignorant opinion.

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”; April 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Anonymous said...: the stab wound was incurred in the act of self-defense

Mangum can present this affirmative defense at trial.

getting charges pressed against Duke for committing the error

"Committing the error" is not a crime. Please explain why Duke employees should face criminal charges for actions that are not criminal. Malpractice creates civil liability.

whether it was muder per se or not

Murder is an intervening cause and a criminal act; mistakes are not.

their animosity and conflict of interest with Ms. Mangum is well known

Their animosity and conflict of interest are not well known. Please explain.

using their professional negligent care as part of the defense and why she should not be responsible for Mr. Daye's death is easily understood

You rely on jury nullification if you argue the jury should disregard the law because it is unfair.

castle doctrine pased into law...needs to be considered

It was not retroactive.; April 12, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Laws are changed that are unfair.

Not having the castle doctrine not be retroactive to an active case is hogwash. Anyone can do what she did in self-defense and then turn around and get charged with murder because of a hospital (supposedly one of the top ranking hosp. in state) making avoidable mistakes? NO ONE would accept that, especially in this case. And Mr. Daye would not have been stabbed if he wasn't attacking Ms. Mangum in the first place - so it's his fault to begin with. If it had been anyone but Ms. Mangum, would you feel the same way? If you had to stab someone in self defense - and your case was currently active - would you accept that the guy on trial before you just got off for the very same thing under the Castle Doctrine, but you did not? Don't think so.; April 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM
Anonymous said...: My opinion is not based on it being Ms. Mangum.

I do not accept what Sidney says without conclusive proof because he has consistently lied, distorted evidence and relied on non-credible sources. He applies a double standard. I will wait until evidence is presented at trial.; April 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 3:41 wrote: "Laws are changed that are unfair."

If you want to use Crystal's case to make a change to the felony murder rule, you do need to understand that she will have to be convicted of Murder I and spend a long time in prison before the Supreme Court makes that change. Further, there is every possibility that the court will conclude that the Legislature having codified the rule, it has no authority to change it. So far, you have made no case what so ever for changing the rule. You fall into the same trap that Sid does of making wild and unsubstantiated allegations. Frankly, you damage the cause for those who really do want to make a difference in the law.

"Castle doctrine".

That's a non-starter. It was Daye's house too.

With friends like Anonymous at 3:41 and Sid, Crystal really doesn't need any enemies.

Walt-in-Durham; April 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

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