justice4nifong: Murder at Duke University Hospital: The case for Reginald Daye's demise being intentional

Saturday, October 26, 2013

Murder at Duke University Hospital: The case for Reginald Daye's demise being intentional

The YouTube video below is Part One

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Anonymous said...: lots of dead deer to be seen this time of year along the nc highways - part of the local attractions - best be wearin your orange hats if'n your out and about in the woods so as not to get your head blown off cuz your deemed a dear even if'n your not feeling like one much ... don't you know; October 31, 2013 at 5:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous October 31, 2013 at 5:07 PM

"I also think that if this is duke's policy to kill one to frame another - that ALL judicial cases involving duke would have to be tried in a different state - given the undue burden of threat to life and limb of any who crosses duke or crosses the path in accidental mishap of any who has crossed duke in anyway deeming them deserving of duke framing actions - because all who drive in any way in NC are under the same threat of duke's revenge and fear mongering hatred (and they hate to lose - and they hate many).

This is too important not to be investigated and properly dealt with because of this fact of life and duke in NC.

There are a lot more people at risk from duke's nefarious actions than from Ms. Mangums i assure you."

I sy again, the fallacy here is you presume you can think. Fabricating allegations you will not prove is not thinking.; October 31, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous October 31, 2013 at 4:45 PM:

"perhaps it should bother everyone that duke makes people dislike them because they hate and harm the people first - and that they will kill some to frame others whom they hate - and apparently they hate many - so - many could be killed in order to frame many others by duke if that is their way of doing 'things'"

More uncorroborated allegations from the fabricator.; October 31, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...: that's ok - don't believe me - and stay out of nc since you obviously know nothing about it and think those talking about what they see on a daily basis in the news and community are simply uncorraborated fabricators - would hate for you to get a rude nonawakening if'n a deer suddenly attacked you from the side of the road and someone behind you who duke hated and wanted to frame accidently smashed into you because of it and you ended up in their hosp. - just to play it safe and all - for the poor deer too of course; October 31, 2013 at 6:45 PM
Anonymous said...: I have lived here for years. My family and I have been given life saving care at Duke. You are full of crap; October 31, 2013 at 6:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous October 31, 2013 at 6:45 PM"

"that's ok - don't believe me - and stay out of nc since you obviously know nothing about it and think those talking about what they see on a daily basis in the news and community are simply uncorraborated fabricators - would hate for you to get a rude nonawakening if'n a deer suddenly attacked you from the side of the road and someone behind you who duke hated and wanted to frame accidently smashed into you because of it and you ended up in their hosp. - just to play it safe and all - for the poor deer too of course"

Seems you never tire of fabricating allegations or of indulging in impotent name calling.; October 31, 2013 at 7:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous October 31, 2013 at 6:45 PM:

that's ok - don't believe me - and stay out of nc since you obviously know nothing about it and think those talking about what they see on a daily basis in the news and community are simply uncorraborated fabricators - would hate for you to get a rude nonawakening if'n a deer suddenly attacked you from the side of the road and someone behind you who duke hated and wanted to frame accidently smashed into you because of it and you ended up in their hosp. - just to play it safe and all - for the poor deer too of course"

Seems like you also like to make impotent meaningless threats.; October 31, 2013 at 7:06 PM
Anonymous said...: that wasn't a threat evil duke troll - wake up - it was a safety reminder of deer on the side of highways this time of year - and how some don't seem to mind that this duke death debacle exists that effects all in NC (why is that?) - in case you didn't actually 'get it' - get real

always looking to make others look bad aren't you evil duke troll - nice try; October 31, 2013 at 8:27 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Dr.Nichols' statement is a concise summary of what the autopsy revealed"........ So concise that it failed to mention the aspiration of stomach contents brought about by emesis caused by the naso-gastric introduction of contrast media. Most likely the real underlying cause of Reginald Daye's untimely death was chronic alcoholism. At Duke Hospital no post-surgical infection was ever identified and the imaging of the chest showed only some post-surgical atelectasis and small pleural effusions common after abdominal surgery and also an abdominal ileus also a common and expected post abdominal surgery finding. These are unrelated to a post surgical infection. Mild fever is a common finding in delirium tremens.; October 31, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous October 31, 2013 at 8:27 PM:

"that wasn't a threat evil duke troll - wake up - it was a safety reminder of deer on the side of highways this time of year - and how some don't seem to mind that this duke death debacle exists that effects all in NC (why is that?) - in case you didn't actually 'get it' - get real

always looking to make others look bad aren't you evil duke troll - nice try"

More impotent name calling.; November 1, 2013 at 3:28 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"So concise that it failed to mention the aspiration of stomach contents brought about by emesis caused by the naso-gastric introduction of contrast media."

The context n which Dr. Nichols made the statement did not call for more than a concise statement. You seem to think someone like Dr. Nichols is obliged to jump wheneve you say frog. He isn't.

"Most likely the real underlying cause of Reginald Daye's untimely death was chronic alcoholism."

There was o history of chronic alcoholism, just like there was no anonymous Lacrosse layer who witnessed a rape at the Lacrosse party.

"At Duke Hospital no post-surgical infection was ever identified and the imaging of the chest showed only some post-surgical atelectasis and small pleural effusions common after abdominal surgery and also an abdominal ileus also a common and expected post abdominal surgery finding. These are unrelated to a post surgical infection."

You again show your utter ignorance of medical matters. Those findings are consistent with a post surgical infection. Infection is a recognized risk of colon surgery, especially emergency colon surgery.

"Mild fever is a common finding in delirium tremens."

In a post operative situation it is more likely to be associated with infection.

Tell us how many post op surgical patients have you cared for in your life. Where did you get all this expertise with which you credit yourself?; November 1, 2013 at 3:38 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 4:45 PM wrote: "More uncorroborated allegations from the fabricator."

Ding-Ding-Ding, ladies and gentlemen we have a winner.

Walt-in-Durham; November 1, 2013 at 6:16 AM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "Most likely the real underlying cause of Reginald Daye's untimely death was chronic alcoholism."

"The consequences of an assault which is the direct cause of the death of another are not excused nor is the criminal responsibility for the death lessened by a preexisting physical condition which made the victim unable to withstand the shock of the assault and without which preexisting condition the blow would not have been fatal." State v. Atkinson, 298 N.C. 673 at 682, ___ SE2d ___ at ___, State v. Luther 285 N.C. 570, 206 S.E.2d 238, (1974); State v. Knight, 247 N.C. 754, 102 S.E. 2d 259 (1958); see generally W. LaFave & A. Scott, Handbook on Criminal Law § 35 (1972).

With friends like you, Crystal doesn't need any enemies.

Walt-in-Durham; November 1, 2013 at 6:34 AM
Anonymous said...: If duke basically assaulted Mr. Daye with the tube they left in his throat for too long because of whatever medical condition they deemed they needed to do tests for at the moment without actual regard to the well-known potential negative life threatening consequences of those test actions which caused Mr. Daye to become more ill and life distressed - and therefore require treatment that consequently led to his untimely demise by having a tube obstructing his ability to breath for too long to allow sufficient oxygen to reach Mr. Daye's brain therefore causing brain death which led to removal of life support which led to ultimate death - they are potentially not only civilly in the sense of medical malpractice but also criminally in the terms of murder - liable for Mr. Daye's actual death. Why aren't doctors held criminally as well as civilly responsible for the death of their patients more often under this law for their over and/or erroneous and faulty medical practices that cause death, like in Mr. Daye's case, where actual assault to a vital aspect of life functioning is committed by the medical persons in the name of 'health treatment' or 'health testing'?; November 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
lots of dead deer to be seen this time of year along the nc highways - part of the local attractions - best be wearin your orange hats if'n your out and about in the woods so as not to get your head blown off cuz your deemed a dear even if'n your not feeling like one much ... don't you know

Thank you for the public service announcement. Advisories, such as the above, are what help make this blog site great.; November 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "If duke basically assaulted Mr. Daye with the tube they left in his throat for too long because of whatever medical condition they deemed they needed to do tests for at the moment without actual regard to the well-known potential negative life threatening consequences of those test actions which caused Mr. Daye to become more ill and life distressed - and therefore require treatment that consequently led to his untimely demise by having a tube obstructing his ability to breath for too long to allow sufficient oxygen to reach Mr. Daye's brain therefore causing brain death which led to removal of life support which led to ultimate death - they are potentially not only civilly in the sense of medical malpractice but also criminally in the terms of murder - liable for Mr. Daye's actual death."

Does the name "Amanda McKittrick Ros" mean anything to you? Are you by chance related?; November 1, 2013 at 9:14 AM
Anonymous said...: "Anonymous November 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM

If duke basically assaulted Mr. Daye with the tube they left in his throat for too long because of whatever medical condition they deemed they needed to do tests for at the moment without actual regard to the well-known potential negative life threatening consequences of those test actions which caused Mr. Daye to become more ill and life distressed - and therefore require treatment that consequently led to his untimely demise by having a tube obstructing his ability to breath for too long to allow sufficient oxygen to reach Mr. Daye's brain therefore causing brain death which led to removal of life support which led to ultimate death - they are potentially not only civilly in the sense of medical malpractice but also criminally in the terms of murder - liable for Mr. Daye's actual death. Why aren't doctors held criminally as well as civilly responsible for the death of their patients more often under this law for their over and/or erroneous and faulty medical practices that cause death, like in Mr. Daye's case, where actual assault to a vital aspect of life functioning is committed by the medical persons in the name of 'health treatment' or 'health testing'?"

More uncorroborated allegations which will undoubtedly lead to an evil Duke Troll accusation and more impotent name calling.; November 1, 2013 at 9:17 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Thank you for the public service announcement. Advisories, such as the above, are what help make this blog site great."

This blog site is maintained by a greatly deluded megalomaniacal twerp, my apologies to all the twerps in the world for comparing them to SIDNEY HARR.; November 1, 2013 at 9:20 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
If duke basically assaulted Mr. Daye with the tube they left in his throat for too long because of whatever medical condition they deemed they needed to do tests for at the moment without actual regard to the well-known potential negative life threatening consequences of those test actions which caused Mr. Daye to become more ill and life distressed - and therefore require treatment that consequently led to his untimely demise by having a tube obstructing his ability to breath for too long to allow sufficient oxygen to reach Mr. Daye's brain therefore causing brain death which led to removal of life support which led to ultimate death - they are potentially not only civilly in the sense of medical malpractice but also criminally in the terms of murder - liable for Mr. Daye's actual death. Why aren't doctors held criminally as well as civilly responsible for the death of their patients more often under this law for their over and/or erroneous and faulty medical practices that cause death, like in Mr. Daye's case, where actual assault to a vital aspect of life functioning is committed by the medical persons in the name of 'health treatment' or 'health testing'?

Regarding the death of any patient, intent is important to distinguish between homicide and malpractice. An esophageal intubation, especially by someone experienced enough to give a paralytic agent is, I would say, extremely rare, and to not correct it in a timely manner when an EtCO2 monitor suggests misplacement, is unheard of. It's possible Daye's death may have been accidental, but it is probable that it could be intentional for all of the reasons alluded to in the flog.; November 1, 2013 at 9:21 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Thank you for the public service announcement. Advisories, such as the above, are what help make this blog site great."

This blog site is maintained by a greatly deluded megalomaniacal twerp, my apologies to all the twerps in the world for comparing them to SIDNEY HARR.

All twerps should be honored to be compared to me.; November 1, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney and Kenny,

Are you planning on attending Crystal's trial? I would think that your support would mean so much to her. I would not want to face a trial for first degree murder without my dear friends in attendance,

If the case goes to trial, and that is still a big if, I do not plan on attending.; November 1, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...
"Why should I file a lawsuit against Tucker? Even though he did a hatchet job on me that was malicious gossip, I still like the guy."

"Gossip: reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true."

So far, none of what John Tucker has reported can be considered "gossip". I can see why you haven't filed a lawsuit...And it has nothing to do with "liking the guy".

You see, you've been misled by much of the gossip in the article to believe that I file civil suits at the drop of a hat. Well, I don't. I have to really be aggrieved to file a lawsuit... which is a lot of work and not a lot of fun.

If you met John Tucker, I bet you would find him to be an extremely likeable fellow.; November 1, 2013 at 9:31 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Why should I file a lawsuit against Tucker? Even though he did a hatchet job on me that was malicious gossip, I still like the guy. And at least the Indy Week covered the story albeit tangentially. I have more respect for Indy Week than any of the other media outlets who have their heads buried in the sand on this issue."

Sounds like a lame attempt on your part to avoid denying what Mr.Tucker wrote, which in turn is something of an admission that what he wrote was not a hatchet job.

Tell you what... why don't you try and verify the most egregious and damning things that Tucker said about me? Get the facts and then come to me.; November 1, 2013 at 9:35 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "
You see, you've been misled by much of the gossip in the article to believe that I file civil suits at the drop of a hat. Well, I don't. I have to really be aggrieved to file a lawsuit... which is a lot of work and not a lot of fun."

Still not providing any proof that the information in the article is "gossip", Sid.; November 1, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Regarding the death of any patient, intent is important to distinguish between homicide and malpractice. An esophageal intubation, especially by someone experienced enough to give a paralytic agent is, I would say, extremely rare, and to not correct it in a timely manner when an EtCO2 monitor suggests misplacement, is unheard of."

If you have not heard of it is probably not remarkable. Considering you lack of training and your lack of experience in the practice of any specialty in medicine, there is an awful lot you have not heard of. The laryngoscopy showed the tube was not misplaced. The tube, according to the documents you illegally posted say the tube was replaced.

"It's possible Daye's death may have been accidental, but it is probable that it could be intentional for all of the reasons alluded to in the flog."

Considering all the uncorroborated, uninformed allegations you have made in this flog, it is absolutely impossible that Reginald Daye's death was due to any intentional act by Duke.; November 1, 2013 at 9:51 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "Tell you what... why don't you try and verify the most egregious and damning things that Tucker said about me? Get the facts and then come to me."

?? Not the way it works, Sid. As a journalist, Mr. Tucker would have done his homework (so to speak), and wouldn't have written anything that would have left himself or Indy Week open to claims of libel.

Now you've come forward and stated that Mr. Tucker has not done his homework, and has instead engaged in "malicious gossip".

You made the claim that what was reported was gossip. Show your work.; November 1, 2013 at 9:52 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"All twerps should be honored to be compared to me."

Any twerp who was compared to you would probably sue for defamation of character. I apologized for comparing twerps to you so I would probably bot be.; November 1, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "I cannot say with complete certainty that Reginald Daye's death was the result of homicide at the hands of staff at Duke University Hospital".
- Sid Harr; November 1, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"You see, you've been misled by much of the gossip in the article to believe that I file civil suits at the drop of a hat. Well, I don't. I have to really be aggrieved to file a lawsuit... which is a lot of work and not a lot of fun."

Your actions speak louder than your words. Your actions say you do file lawsuits at the drop of a hat, frivolous, non meitorious lawsuits hoping to shake don someone for a windfall.; November 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Tell you what... why don't you try and verify the most egregious and damning things that Tucker said about me? Get the facts and then come to me."

Better yet, why don't you contact John Yucker and challenge him to backup what he says? Because you are afraid of what he would reveal.

Maybe he would confirm what I believe, that you never did a residency because no residency program would accept you.; November 1, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Sorry for the typo. I meant John Tucker.; November 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"If the case goes to trial, and that is still a big if, I do not plan on attending."

That means Crystal is greatly relieved.; November 1, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"If the case goes to trial, and that is still a big if, I do not plan on attending."

I was hoping you would attend the trial. If you did, you would probably open your mouth and get cited for contempt. That make the tiral worth watching.; November 1, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Tell you what... why don't you try and verify the most egregious and damning things that Tucker said about me? Get the facts and then come to me."

You probably know I do not have the facts and Mr. Tucker does. That is probably why you are afraid to challenge him on them. Me, I am just expressing an opinion on what Mr. Tucker wrote.; November 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...
"
You see, you've been misled by much of the gossip in the article to believe that I file civil suits at the drop of a hat. Well, I don't. I have to really be aggrieved to file a lawsuit... which is a lot of work and not a lot of fun."

Still not providing any proof that the information in the article is "gossip", Sid.

Hey, Supreme Poster.

I've got more important things to do than to refute gossip.; November 1, 2013 at 10:14 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "The context n which Dr. Nichols made the statement did not call for more than a concise statement. You seem to think someone like Dr. Nichols is obliged to jump wheneve you say frog. He isn't."............ The statement was also made in the "Report of Autopsy Examination" dated april 14 2011. It was not released until july 29 2011.Crystal was charged with felony murder on april 18, 2011; November 1, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Tell you what... why don't you try and verify the most egregious and damning things that Tucker said about me? Get the facts and then come to me."

You probably know I do not have the facts and Mr. Tucker does. That is probably why you are afraid to challenge him on them. Me, I am just expressing an opinion on what Mr. Tucker wrote.

What a flimsy excuse. Listen, just contact Mr. Tucker. He's really a nice guy... he won't bite your head off. Ask him for his references, and I'm sure he'll have no problem getting you started.; November 1, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"If the case goes to trial, and that is still a big if, I do not plan on attending."

I was hoping you would attend the trial. If you did, you would probably open your mouth and get cited for contempt. That make the tiral worth watching.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't make it a habit of going where I'm not wanted. It's not in my DNA.; November 1, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "I've got more important things to do than to refute gossip."

There's no refuting the truth, Sid.; November 1, 2013 at 10:22 AM
The Rectumfinder said...: I believe the evidence will show that Sidney Harr snuck into the Duke ER to murder Reginal Daye so that it would appear that Duke killed him.

Hey, this makes as much sense as any other theory that's been thrown around here.; November 1, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY BARR:

"Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't make it a habit of going where I'm not wanted. It's not in my DNA."

So why did you try to ruin Crystal's defense for her? Her attorneys certainly didn't want you poking your nose into somewhere you did not belong.; November 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"What a flimsy excuse. Listen, just contact Mr. Tucker. He's really a nice guy... he won't bite your head off. Ask him for his references, and I'm sure he'll have no problem getting you started."

If he is such a nice guy I am sure he would respond to a request from you to back up what he reported about you. You establish again you do not want made public the facts about your background, or lack thereof.; November 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous October 31, 2013 at 4:39 PM

"fy evil duke troll

just anything to put me down and falsly accuse me right - nothing you say means anything anyway - since you basically sit here and troll anything and everything that anyone says on this blog that is anyway truthful about duke - everything to you is bully and troll and falsly accuse and disparage others

new low for you - or are you always this mean and stupid - oh wait - you are just trying to prove my point that duke is mean - it is a game to them - and they do not care how evil they are - as long as they feel like they 'win'

right evil duke troll? right."

Another round of impotent name calling by the fabricator of uncorroborated allegations.; November 1, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"The statement was also made in the "Report of Autopsy Examination" dated april 14 2011. It was not released until july 29 2011.Crystal was charged with felony murder on april 18, 2011"

What Doctor Nichols said in the autopsy report is that his opinion is that Reginald Daye died as a result of complications of a stab wound. He documented his findings in the report. The quote, ""he was stabbed he died" is not part of the autopsy report.

The conclusion, that Reginald Daye died of something other than complications of the stab wound is SIDNEY's conclusion. Explain why Dr. Nichols should have included SIDNEY's conclusion in his autopsy report, especially since SIDNEY is minimally trained and minimally experienced in the practice of anything medical.; November 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Did you notice SIDNEY is not going to attend Crystal's trial, i.e. he is finally going to do something to benefit Crystal.

Did you notice that means he is unwilling to confront Dr. Nichols in the court room?; November 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Anonymous said...: In other words ,everything in the Indy article is true and scumbag knows it. Hey why don't you go take some pictures of some more dead people at the local funeral home and put them on here? You could make yourself quite a reputation.; November 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Nicholls exact quote to the N & O was in an interview by Virginia Bridges said " He was stabbed, he was treated and as a direct result of the stab wound he died". The Autopsy report, he filed said: "After review of the historic and autopsy findings contained herein, it is my opinion that the deceased, Reginald Daye, died as the result of complications of a stab wound to his chest.; November 1, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"Dr. Nicholls exact quote to the N & O was in an interview by Virginia Bridges said " He was stabbed, he was treated and as a direct result of the stab wound he died". The Autopsy report, he filed said: "After review of the historic and autopsy findings contained herein, it is my opinion that the deceased, Reginald Daye, died as the result of complications of a stab wound to his chest."

Regardless, SIDNEY thinks Dr. Nichols, who is much more experienced and much more highly trained should have included SIDNEY's conclusions in the autopsy. Why should he. That is like expecting the commander of the Atlantic Fleet to base his operations on the advice of someone who skippers an 18 foot rowboat.; November 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

Whether or not you realized, the progression you listed in your previous screeds as the cause of death were a series of complications of the stab wound.; November 1, 2013 at 4:18 PM
The Rectumfinder said...: Crystal Mangum was raped by Sidney Harr and Ken Hydral. They were in whiteface and wearing Duke Lacrosse uniforms in order to frame the LAX team.; November 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Anonymous said...: The Rectumfinder:

Your theory that Sidney snuck into Duke University Medical Center and murdered Daye has not received enough consideration.

Another poster raised this possibility earlier, noting that (1) Sidney threatened that Duke would bear the consequences for having treated him so shamefully and (2) he worked as a physician for ten years and would know how to kill Daye by moving the tube.

This is as extensive as the evidence supporting the existence of the Carpetbagger Jihad.

This theory explains Sidney's confidence in concluding that Daye died of an esophageal intubation. Duke did not understand how the "mistake" occurred, but worked with Nichols to cover it up.

Originally, Sidney believed that medical malpractice would be sufficient to relieve Mangum of responsibility. This explains his inability to accept the significance of the Welch decision and his focus on a mistake by Duke. He believed that prosectors would simply dismiss all charges.

This flog represents a dramatic change in Sidney's strategy, but carries with it significant risk that his role in Daye's death will be discovered. Nevertheless, he finally has realized that Mangum could be convicted for a murder he committed, forcing the change in his strategy. This flog's greatest weakness was its entirely inadequate discussion of motive. Mangum's "role in the Duke Lacrosse case" scarcely provides the Carpetbagger Jihad with a motive for murder.

I agree with you, The Rectumfinder, this theory certainly merits additional discussion.; November 1, 2013 at 6:20 PM
The Rectumfinder said...: Anon @ 6:20,
Thank you for your support.
I plan to sue Sidney Harr and the State of North Carolina to compel them to appoint me as Special Persecutor to investigate Sidney's role in Daye's murder and Crystal's rape. I will demand a court order for Sidney to give sample of DNA to compare against the tube used to kill Daye and against Crystal's rape kit.
The court should appoint me to this role because I am an acrobat... and rectumfinder!; November 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Whether or not you realized, the progression you listed in your previous screeds as the cause of death were a series of complications of the stab wound".........No they were not. In the law intervening circumstances can, maybe, be ignored but in medicine the underlying cause of Daye's death was alcohol withdrawal syndrome and it's improper treatment. He could have met the same fate if he tripped and broke his ankle. The stab wound was not related to his brain death.; November 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...: They should have just let him go home like he probably was getting agitated about cuz they wouldn't - and they were trying to get him to do more tests he didn't want or thought he needed. He could have drank, alchol sterilized his innards to cleanse it of any infection, breathed much easier with a 12 pack and his easy chair - and hey - we wouldn't be hear bout him being murdered by duke now (or Ms. Mangum).; November 2, 2013 at 12:00 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"in medicine the underlying cause of Daye's death was alcohol withdrawal syndrome and it's improper treatment. He could have met the same fate if he tripped and broke his ankle. The stab wound was not related to his brain death."

No it wasn't.

If he had tripped and broken his ankle, the only difference is it would not have been a complication of a stab wound inflicted by his violent girl friend.

From what institution did you get your medical degree?; November 2, 2013 at 4:16 AM
Anonymous said...: If Mr. Daye had been taken to another hospital instead of duke he would not have died from duke's complications.; November 2, 2013 at 4:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Did you ever find statistics of the rate of death from events similar to what happened to Mr. Daye? How many times does that procedure normally end in brain death and ultimate death, do you know? Do the statistics vary from hospital to hospital in NC?

Do you think, Dr. Harr, if Mr. Daye had been provided medical services by others without a thing against Mr. Mangum, or people other than affiliated with duke, that he would have survived the knife attack (taking into account the possibility of dt's or infections)?; November 2, 2013 at 4:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Right on kennyhyderal; November 2, 2013 at 4:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 4:24 AM:

"If Mr. Daye had been taken to another hospital instead of duke he would not have died from duke's complications."

Reinald Daye died of complications of the stab wound inflicted by Crystal. That would have been the case if he had died in another hospital.; November 2, 2013 at 5:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 4:38 AM.

"Do you think, Dr. Harr, if Mr. Daye had been provided medical services by others without a thing against Mr. Mangum, or people other than affiliated with duke, that he would have survived the knife attack (taking into account the possibility of dt's or infections)?"432"

First, you presume SIDNEY can think. He has demonstrated on manyoccasions he can not.

Second, Reginald Daye was treated at a hospital which had no vendetta against Crystal.

Third, SIDNEY does have a vendetta against Duke because Duke beat his frivolous, non meritorious lawsuit.; November 2, 2013 at 5:23 AM
Anonymous said...: you, evil duke troll, demonstrate on all occassions that you cannot

blah; November 2, 2013 at 5:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 5:32 AM

"you, evil duke troll, demonstrate on all occassions that you cannot

blah"

Another evil duke troll allegation(which, like all your allegations is uncorroborated) and more impotent name calling.

Yawn; November 2, 2013 at 5:36 AM
Anonymous said...: no, you prove the evil duke troll title earned by you every day, evil duke troll; November 2, 2013 at 5:50 AM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "No they were not. In the law intervening circumstances can, maybe, be ignored but in medicine the underlying cause of Daye's death was alcohol withdrawal syndrome and it's improper treatment. He could have met the same fate if he tripped and broke his ankle. The stab wound was not related to his brain death."

That misrepresents the law and proximate cause. Proximate cause - had the late Reginald Daye not been stabbed, he would not have been subject to hospital withdrawl. Assuming Kenny is right and that is a rather large assumption that is not supported by expert testimony or any evidence. Further, the law in the United States is clear, you take your victim the way you find them. W. LaFave & A. Scott, Handbook on Criminal Law § 35 (1972).

It's fine if you don't understand the law, but don't spout off misinformation.

Walt-in-Durham; November 2, 2013 at 6:31 AM
Anonymous said...: If he had not been in duke hosp., a more proximate cause to his actual death and reason for actual factual death - the probabilty that he would not have died from duke's malpractice bringing into question duke's animosity towards Ms. Mangum once again; their known ability to harm others; their known predudice against blacks, women, mental health patients, etc.; their penchant for fighting with others in and on the courts; and their love of winning at all costs; all combined with their inability to ethically administer themselves; etc. that also brings into question the criminality of their treatment of Mr. Daye and his actual cause of death - then that statement you made might actually be relevant to this case Walt. As it stands, with all the questions left to be answered, there is no way to apply that standard to this case in a just system.; November 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM
Anonymous said...: I didn't know that Duke had animosity against Mangum. During the rape case, Duke faculty and students treated her as a paragon of virtue. Are you sure this animosity exists?; November 2, 2013 at 7:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Right on kennyhyderal; November 2, 2013 at 8:16 AM
A Lawyer said...: bringing into question duke's animosity towards Ms. Mangum once again;

What animosity? The pot-bangers and the Group of 88 certainly love her.

their known ability to harm others;

Can you give an example?

their known predudice[sic] against blacks, women, mental health patients, etc.;

Can you give some examples?

their penchant for fighting with others in and on the courts;

Examples?

and their love of winning at all costs;

Examples?

all combined with their inability to ethically administer themselves; etc.

Examples?; November 2, 2013 at 8:50 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...

"KENHYDERAL:

From what institution did you get your medical degree?"

Cut and Paste Ken is a proud graduate of the Google School of Medicine.; November 2, 2013 at 8:55 AM
kenhyderal said...: Walt said: "It's fine if you don't understand the law, but don't spout off misinformation"....... I understand the law. I question it's application in every and all circumstances. There is no expert testimony about Daye's brain death. Dr. Nicholls failed to address any factor other then the stab wound that should have been non-fatal. Just because it was the stab wound that brought Daye to Duke Hospital doesn't mean that the Welsh ruling applies in this case. There has been no expert opinion as to the underlying cause for the acute agitation that took him into the surgical intensive care unit, where treatment he was given led to his demise. At the time, it was diagnosed as delirium tremens with a post-surgical infection as a possible differential diagnosis. None of this was addressed in the Nicholls autopsy.; November 2, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Right on kennyhyderal; November 2, 2013 at 9:22 AM
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kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " From what institution did you get your medical degree? Cut and Paste Ken is a proud graduate of the Google School of Medicine"........... I'm just a lay person but "I didn't just fall off a turnip truck" either and I have the "native intelligence" to ascertain when somebody is "trying to sell me a bill of goods".; November 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

You didn't answer the question raised earlier. Are you planning on attending Crystal's trial.

I can imagine that your support would be so comforting to her.; November 2, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Did you ever find statistics of the rate of death from events similar to what happened to Mr. Daye? How many times does that procedure normally end in brain death and ultimate death, do you know? Do the statistics vary from hospital to hospital in NC?

Do you think, Dr. Harr, if Mr. Daye had been provided medical services by others without a thing against Mr. Mangum, or people other than affiliated with duke, that he would have survived the knife attack (taking into account the possibility of dt's or infections)?

Had Mr. Daye's situation been equal with the exception of him being stabbed by Mangum, Daye would be alive today. I believe he was sacrificed in order to get a serious charge against Mangum.

Also, if Daye had been taken to a hospital other than Duke, I believe that he most likely would be alive, too. I think it was easier to approach hospital staff at Duke with the proposition rather than at a non-Duke hospital.; November 2, 2013 at 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Right

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kennyhyderal; November 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
They should have just let him go home like he probably was getting agitated about cuz they wouldn't - and they were trying to get him to do more tests he didn't want or thought he needed. He could have drank, alchol sterilized his innards to cleanse it of any infection, breathed much easier with a 12 pack and his easy chair - and hey - we wouldn't be hear bout him being murdered by duke now (or Ms. Mangum).

Although I don't concur with your reasoning, you are probably correct, because had he been released, he would not have been intubated... the fatal incident. At home, like you said, he could've brought his dt's under control with some alcohol. However, that is not the best medical course to take.; November 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Who suggested that you not attend the trial? I believe Crystal needs your support.; November 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: The Rectumfinder said...
Anon @ 6:20,
Thank you for your support.
I plan to sue Sidney Harr and the State of North Carolina to compel them to appoint me as Special Persecutor to investigate Sidney's role in Daye's murder and Crystal's rape. I will demand a court order for Sidney to give sample of DNA to compare against the tube used to kill Daye and against Crystal's rape kit.
The court should appoint me to this role because I am an acrobat... and rectumfinder!

rectumfinder, bring it on! Just keep in mind that you'll need to use your real name... unless rectumfinder is your birth-name.; November 2, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid,

Who suggested that you not attend the trial? I believe Crystal needs your support.

Crystal does need my support, and could use it at trial. However, because she has not freely shared all important discovery with me... including discovery for which I am responsible, I have concluded that she does not want, need, or appreciate my help. So the only support I will be providing is online support on my blog site.; November 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...
"I've got more important things to do than to refute gossip."

There's no refuting the truth, Sid.

Supreme Poster, your problem is that you can't tell gossip from the truth.; November 2, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney,

You have not reacted to The Rectumfinder's theory that you snuck into DUMC and murdered Daye by moving the endotracheal tube into Day's esophagus. Another poster provided evidence to support that theory. This is the development Mangum needs to demonstrate her innocence of murder charges.; November 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Anonymous said...: My reasoning, as correct as it is, is foreign to western medicine perhaps Dr. Harr? It's called not killing people if the only thing they need is a drink of whiskey or beer to go with those thar dt's ... hey. Doesn't sell duke med's tho right.; November 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Anonymous said...: It wasn't a necessary test at the time, and if that test was actually needed at that time and had the well known expectation of vomiting and risk of asphixiation, then the professionals needed for the intubation process required in the event of vomiting during the test given should have been there fully ready, prepared, and able to do their job successfully without committing brain death in the process.

WHEN exactly was he intubated and why? That is confusing from reading the report compared to the summary shown in your flog.; November 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"I'm just a lay person but "I didn't just fall off a turnip truck" either and I have the "native intelligence" to ascertain when somebody is "trying to sell me a bill of goods".

November 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Right

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kennyhyderal; November 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Supreme Poster, your problem is that you can't tell gossip from the truth."

This from someone who makes a career of distorting the truth.; November 2, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Crystal does need my support, and could use it at trial."

Yeah, like she needs a case of Shingles.

"However, because she has not freely shared all important discovery with me... including discovery for which I am responsible,"

You mean you haven't been able to get near her and illegally access and then distort confidential information.

"I have concluded that she does not want, need, or appreciate my help."

You should have realized that a long time ago.

"So the only support I will be providing is online support on my blog site."

Do her a favor. Don't try to help her.; November 2, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Although I don't concur with your reasoning, you are probably correct, because had he been released, he would not have been intubated... the fatal incident. At home, like you said, he could've brought his dt's under control with some alcohol. However, that is not the best medical course to take."

You have not established as fact that Reginald aye was suffering from DTs.

That you would let him go home shows you are not a competent physician.; November 2, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Had Mr. Daye's situation been equal with the exception of him being stabbed by Mangum, Daye would be alive today. I believe he was sacrificed in order to get a serious charge against Mangum.

Also, if Daye had been taken to a hospital other than Duke, I believe that he most likely would be alive, too. I think it was easier to approach hospital staff at Duke with the proposition rather than at a non-Duke hospital."

Except Duke had no motive to kill Reginald Daye ad no one approached them to do it.

This is all based on your non existent carpetbagger jihad.

Now tell me all about Jedi mind tricks which don't exist.; November 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

" I'm just a lay person but 'I didn't just fall off a turnip truck' either"

So it must have been a garbage truck.

and I have the 'native intelligence" to ascertain when somebody is "trying to sell me a bill of goods'".

Considering you believe in Kilgo, in Kilgo's non existent Lacrosse player friend, that you have called SIDNEY a distinguished physician, that you have bought into Crystal's contrived account of her cab theft misadventure, yes you can be sold a bill of phony goods, which says you have the native intelligence of a turnip.; November 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM

"If he had not been in duke hosp., a more proximate cause to his actual death and reason for actual factual death - the probabilty that he would not have died from duke's malpractice bringing into question duke's animosity towards Ms. Mangum once again; their known ability to harm others; their known predudice against blacks, women, mental health patients, etc.; their penchant for fighting with others in and on the courts; and their love of winning at all costs; all combined with their inability to ethically administer themselves; etc. that also brings into question the criminality of their treatment of Mr. Daye and his actual cause of death - then that statement you made might actually be relevant to this case Walt. As it stands, with all the questions left to be answered, there is no way to apply that standard to this case in a just system."

More uncorroborated allegations from the fabricator.; November 2, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"I understand the law. I question it's application in every and all circumstances. There is no expert testimony about Daye's brain death. Dr. Nicholls failed to address any factor other then the stab wound that should have been non-fatal. Just because it was the stab wound that brought Daye to Duke Hospital doesn't mean that the Welsh ruling applies in this case. There has been no expert opinion as to the underlying cause for the acute agitation that took him into the surgical intensive care unit, where treatment he was given led to his demise. At the time, it was diagnosed as delirium tremens with a post-surgical infection as a possible differential diagnosis. None of this was addressed in the Nicholls autopsy."

This is testimony from you that you understand neither the law nor medicine.

Like Adolf Hitler, you believe what you proclaim trumps reality.; November 2, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM

:My reasoning, as correct as it is, is foreign to western medicine perhaps Dr. Harr? It's called not killing people if the only thing they need is a drink of whiskey or beer to go with those thar dt's ... hey. Doesn't sell duke med's tho right."

You are incapable of reasoning.; November 2, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Walt,

Could you play nice again for just a sec and tell me this:

What law gives patients the right to leave a hospital if they don't want the services offered there?

Is there such a law that gives citizens of the USA the absolute right to make their own health treatment decisions, and like - demand to have all tubes and such taken out and be discharged asap?

How is that done in a hospital legally without causing too much fuss or turmoil - just tubes and needles out and on your way (to a different doctor, etc. or whatever).

I'd rather have a glass of beer and some antibotics thank you maam is what Mr. Daye should have demanded of the nurse that day at duke (in hindsight).; November 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " that you have bought into Crystal's contrived account of her cab theft misadventure, yes you can be sold a bill of phony goods, which says you have the native intelligence of a turnip".................... And you have bought into the sensationalized account as reported by such yellow journalistic, National Enquirer- like screeds as the Raleigh N.& O. and lying hate spreading blogs like Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers and Durham in Wonderland. And like any brainwashed North Korean subject of the Kim Dynasty you parrot what you have been fed; November 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

"And you have bought into the sensationalized account as reported by such yellow journalistic, National Enquirer- like screeds as the Raleigh N.& O. and lying hate spreading blogs like Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers and Durham in Wonderland. And like any brainwashed North Korean subject of the Kim Dynasty you parrot what you have been fed?"

Since there were no "sensationalized account as reported by such yellow journalistic, National Enquirer- like screeds as the Raleigh N.& O. and lying hate spreading blogs like Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers and Durham in Wonderland" there was nothing could have bought into.

The account of Crystal's cab theft came from records compiled before Crystal became infamous for falsely accusing innocent members of the Lacrosse team of raping her. There is no factual support for her fabricated account in her so called book.; November 3, 2013 at 3:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM

"I'd rather have a glass of beer and some antibotics thank you maam is what Mr. Daye should have demanded of the nurse that day at duke (in hindsight)."

And you would have died sooner than Reginald Daye wou;d have.; November 3, 2013 at 3:27 AM
Anonymous said...: You don't even read what you comment about do you? You simply negate, negate, negate with your red ink in full gear every single day don't you, evil duke troll?

Do you have a certain allotment of negated posts you have to make everyday for duke to pay you your evil duke troll salary, evil duke troll?; November 3, 2013 at 3:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 3, 2013 at 3:33 AM:

"You don't even read what you comment about do you? You simply negate, negate, negate with your red ink in full gear every single day don't you, evil duke troll?

Do you have a certain allotment of negated posts you have to make everyday for duke to pay you your evil duke troll salary, evil duke troll?"

More impotent, unimaginative name calling from the fabricator.; November 3, 2013 at 4:03 AM
Anonymous said...: that's 4 negated evil duke troll posts for 11/3/13 so far - how many do you have to make a day to get paid your duke wages?; November 3, 2013 at 4:31 AM
Anonymous said...: opps - only 3 - but 4 for your next post - so - almost right

anyway ...

blah; November 3, 2013 at 4:33 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"And you have bought into the sensationalized account as reported by such yellow journalistic, National Enquirer- like screeds as the Raleigh N.& O. and lying hate spreading blogs like Duke Lacrosse Liestoppers and Durham in Wonderland. And like any brainwashed North Korean subject of the Kim Dynasty you parrot what you have been fed"

Right

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kennyhyderal; November 3, 2013 at 5:01 AM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "I understand the law."

Your comments below indicate that either you don't, or you are misrepresenting the law.

"I question it's application in every and all circumstances."

That formulation is abundantly clear. You have consistently maintained that Crystal is above the law.

"There is no expert testimony about Daye's brain death. Dr. Nicholls failed to address any factor other then the stab wound that should have been non-fatal."

State v. Atkinson, 298 N.C. 673 at 682, ___ SE2d ___ at ___, State v. Luther' 285 N.C. 570, 206 S.E.2d 238, (1974); State v. Knight, 247 N.C. 754, 102 S.E. 2d 259 (1958) deal with the issue of a pre-existing condition.

"Just because it was the stab wound that brought Daye to Duke Hospital doesn't mean that the Welsh ruling applies in this case."

Except it does as does Atkinson above.

" At the time, it was diagnosed as delirium tremens with a post-surgical infection as a possible differential diagnosis."

Pre-existing condition is not an intervening cause. See above.

"None of this was addressed in the Nicholls autopsy."

Your speculations do not rise to the level of issues that the State needs to address. Further, because of Sid's sabotage of the defense, we know she has no way to raise the issue either. Her expert agrees with the state.

Walt-in-Durham; November 3, 2013 at 5:49 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Had Mr. Daye's situation been equal with the exception of him being stabbed by Mangum, Daye would be alive today."

That is a fairly cogent expression of the doctrine of proximate cause. Had Crystal not stabbed Daye, he'd be alive. It's no wonder Crystal has shut you out of her defense.

Walt-in-Durham; November 3, 2013 at 5:53 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 6:11 PM wrote: "What law gives patients the right to leave a hospital if they don't want the services offered there?"

You really did sleep through your civics class.

"Is there such a law that gives citizens of the USA the absolute right to make their own health treatment decisions, and like - demand to have all tubes and such taken out and be discharged asap?"

In a democracy there are no absolute rights. Your right to make health care choices is always limited as is your right to make contracts, or to drive an automobile. Democracies are always about balancing rights and responsibilities.

Can a patient decline medical treatment? Yes. But, that decision has to be made by someone who is competent to make it. In Daye's case, he level of consciousness varied from time to time. Thus his right to make medical decisions varied from time to time. At times when he was unconscious or of limited consciousness, his next of kin would be charged with making health care decisions on his behalf. If he had a living will or health care power of attorney on file with the medical providers (in this case Duke) his next of kin's powers could have been restricted. The exercise of those rights and powers do not excuse criminal liability though, Welch.; November 3, 2013 at 6:09 AM
Anonymous said...: How do you file living wills or power of attorneys with a health care professional? Wouldn't you have to do that before you even got into an accident or some other situaton where you might be unconcious and require medical services?

What if you just plain don't won't the services of certain health professionals (like duke in this case where they have completely destroyed the public's trust in them through their well publicized unethical health practices and the lacrosse case, etc.)? How do you insure that they never provide you services, even if you are unconscious like Mr. Daye was?

How does a medical service dictate to a patient that they can't make their own decisions? Do they handcuff them to the bed, or give them paralytics to make them 'stay'? Or what?; November 3, 2013 at 7:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 3, 2013 at 4:31 AM:

"that's 4 negated evil duke troll posts for 11/3/13 so far - how many do you have to make a day to get paid your duke wages?"

That's more delusional thinking on the part of the fabricator.; November 3, 2013 at 8:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 3, 2013 at 4:33 AM:

"opps - only 3 - but 4 for your next post - so - almost right

anyway ...

blah"

More misspelling and delusional thinking on the part of the fabricator.; November 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 3, 2013 at 7:27 AM:

"How do you file living wills or power of attorneys with a health care professional? Wouldn't you have to do that before you even got into an accident or some other situaton where you might be unconcious and require medical services?

What if you just plain don't won't the services of certain health professionals (like duke in this case where they have completely destroyed the public's trust in them through their well publicized unethical health practices and the lacrosse case, etc.)? How do you insure that they never provide you services, even if you are unconscious like Mr. Daye was?

How does a medical service dictate to a patient that they can't make their own decisions? Do they handcuff them to the bed, or give them paralytics to make them 'stay'? Or what?"

More delusional thinking, more misspelling, more uncorroborated allegations from the fabricator.; November 3, 2013 at 8:29 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney,

You have not reacted to The Rectumfinder's theory that you snuck into DUMC and murdered Daye by moving the endotracheal tube into Day's esophagus. Another poster provided evidence to support that theory. This is the development Mangum needs to demonstrate her innocence of murder charges.

Let me explain why such a theory is impossible. After the discriminatory treatment by Duke and its near-arrest of me in April 2010, I have never knowingly set foot on any of Duke University's properties, and that includes its medical centers.; November 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
My reasoning, as correct as it is, is foreign to western medicine perhaps Dr. Harr? It's called not killing people if the only thing they need is a drink of whiskey or beer to go with those thar dt's ... hey. Doesn't sell duke med's tho right.

True, but Duke would just charge a little extra for the alcohol.; November 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
It wasn't a necessary test at the time, and if that test was actually needed at that time and had the well known expectation of vomiting and risk of asphixiation, then the professionals needed for the intubation process required in the event of vomiting during the test given should have been there fully ready, prepared, and able to do their job successfully without committing brain death in the process.

WHEN exactly was he intubated and why? That is confusing from reading the report compared to the summary shown in your flog.

Daye was first given a contrast agent through a naso-gastric tube with the contrast ending up in his stomach. The contrast agent has an emetic side effect, and after it was administered, Daye vomited.

After Daye vomited, the medical staff decided to intubate Daye, in order to prevent further emesis and risk of aspiration, and to be able to administer high concentrations of oxygen.

The problem occurred when Daye was then intubated in the esophagus instead of the trachea... which led to his brain death when the errant tube placement was not recognized and corrected.

As the brain lacked oxygen and Daye became brain dead, the heart went into cardiac arrest. This is when chest compressions and CPR was instituted and the intitial tube was remove and Daye was intubated a second time... this time correctly in the airway.

The hospital summary tries to confuse the reader by falsely stating that the first intubation came after the cardiac arrest and was part of CPR. They then account for the second intubation by saying that it was electively done later because the oxygen blood level was low (doesn't make sense).; November 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Had Mr. Daye's situation been equal with the exception of him being stabbed by Mangum, Daye would be alive today."

That is a fairly cogent expression of the doctrine of proximate cause. Had Crystal not stabbed Daye, he'd be alive. It's no wonder Crystal has shut you out of her defense.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, allow me to inject some clarity into that statement. What I meant to say is this: If Daye's situation had been the same with the exception of another individual stabbing him instead of Mangum, then there would not have been the incentive to cause his death in order to give the non-Mangum stabber a life sentence... in other words his treatment would have met acceptable standards and he would have left the hospital vertically instead of horizontally.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; November 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Let me explain why such a theory is impossible. After the discriminatory treatment by Duke and its near-arrest of me in April 2010, I have never knowingly set foot on any of Duke University's properties, and that includes its medical centers."

Except there was no discriminatory treatment of you by Due. You picked a fight with a securiyt guard.; November 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HRR:

"The problem occurred when Daye was then intubated in the esophagus instead of the trachea... which led to his brain death when the errant tube placement was not recognized and corrected."

You have never established as fact tht Reginald Daye was intubated in the esophagus.; November 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Anonymous said...: Yes. Further elucidation is required.

Other than a vague reference to Mangum's "role in the Duke Lacrosse case," you have made no attempt to establish a motive for murder.

Please explain in detail what specific individuals have a motive to commit murder, what that motive is, and provide evidence to support that assertion.

Thanks.; November 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, allow me to inject some clarity into that statement. What I meant to say is this: If Daye's situation had been the same with the exception of another individual stabbing him instead of Mangum, then there would not have been the incentive to cause his death in order to give the non-Mangum stabber a life sentence..."

There never was any motive for Duke to murder Reginald Daye. There was no vendetta against Crystal. The carpetbagger jihad does not exist.

"in other words his treatment would have met acceptable standards and he would have left the hospital vertically instead of horizontally."

You do not know what acceptable standards are. You have repeatedly demonstrated via your uncorroborated allegations against Duke.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

When have you ever provided elucidation? Never.

Why don't you explain why you never did a residency. Probably because no residency program would accept you. You never learned what acceptable standards of care were, yet you accuse Duke of wilfully wiythholding acceptable care.; November 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: "Supreme Poster, your problem is that you can't tell gossip from the truth."

We see in others what we fear in ourselves, Sid.; November 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, allow me to inject some clarity into that statement. What I meant to say is this: If Daye's situation had been the same with the exception of another individual stabbing him instead of Mangum, then there would not have been the incentive to cause his death in order to give the non-Mangum stabber a life sentence... in other words his treatment would have met acceptable standards and he would have left the hospital vertically instead of horizontally."

Changing the story again. You are dependable Sid. When the facts don't fit, change them.

However, let me say that there is no evidence of a medical murder.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

Turns out, you were just having a lucid moment at 10:18 AM.

Walt-in-Durham; November 3, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 8:29 AM wrote: "... How does a medical service dictate to a patient that they can't make their own decisions? Do they handcuff them to the bed, or give them paralytics to make them 'stay'? Or what?"

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. More trolling. Making unsubstantiated allegations get you run.

Walt-in-Durham; November 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Anonymous said...: that was a question walt

no allegations, no trolling

what's up with that?; November 4, 2013 at 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous November 4, 2013 at 2:58 AM

"that was a question walt

no allegations, no trolling

what's up with that?"

More trolling. More uncorroborated allegations. Now we once more will have more impotent, unimaginative name calling.; November 4, 2013 at 4:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Dear Anon at 6:41. Do you have some sort of learning disability? If you want to find out how medical care and hospitals and advance directives and living wills and HIPPA and informed consent and LAMA and and POA all work.....I'd suggest you go to the library.
Walt, I think this troll is actually KennyHissy, after he has had a few too many. Or, perhaps it's Sidney the photo-publishing scumbag. Or Victoria the Bigot. Or maybe it's the pole vaulter herself! Right!!!!! Mangum can read and post on this forum.....why not!!
Sidney has his panties in a twist because, he claims, that Mangum has thrown him over. A lover's quarrel perhaps?
All this silliness about Duke murdering Mr. Daye might as well be met with equal crap, don't you think!
:); November 4, 2013 at 5:15 AM
Lance the Supreme Poster of Enlightenment said...: Walt said:
"However, let me say that there is no evidence of a medical murder. "

Walt, Sid actually agreed with this statement on this blog entry. I have no idea why he's trying now to argue otherwise.; November 4, 2013 at 5:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Harr put in his usual tap-dancing bet-hedging, "I can't realllllly say Duke murdered Daye".....perhaps because he knows there is a line that can be crossed regarding libel. Perhaps he has been spanked before for making wild accusations about criminal behavior on the part of others.....without ANY proof to back up his claims.
Most likely this is, as Walt says, just Harr trying to cover up his own bungling over Mangum's case, evidence, and defense. And, of course, harr always needs something to run his mouth about.; November 4, 2013 at 7:25 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP! IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

I've just uploaded a new Rectifier... number three!

As you were.; November 4, 2013 at 7:37 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Harr put in his usual tap-dancing bet-hedging, "I can't realllllly say Duke murdered Daye".....perhaps because he knows there is a line that can be crossed regarding libel. Perhaps he has been spanked before for making wild accusations about criminal behavior on the part of others.....without ANY proof to back up his claims.
Most likely this is, as Walt says, just Harr trying to cover up his own bungling over Mangum's case, evidence, and defense. And, of course, harr always needs something to run his mouth about.

What I am saying is that I believe that it is very probable that Daye was murdered, but that I cannot prove it without a doubt.

As far as Mangum goes, there's been no bungling on my part!; November 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Note: The Rectifier panel was mistakenly titled. It should read: "NC State is a Gestapo state: The case of Eric Leak."; November 4, 2013 at 8:06 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "As far as Mangum goes, there's been no bungling on my part!"

Sabotage is more like it. You breached the attorney client privilege by publishing the defense expert's opinion. That opinion ends all hopes the defense had on the intervening cause issue. Even though that was tenuous at best, you removed all doubt when you did not have to. The rules which make privileged those communications between attorney and client are there to protect the defense from unwarranted disclosure. By willfully violating that privilege and publishing the privileged information you sabotaged Crystal's defense.

With friends like you, Crystal does not need any enemies.; November 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Anonymous said...: I think it's very probable that Daye was murdered, too..........or, at least, assaulted.....and I have a fairly good idea "who done it"!!!!; November 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Once again, the immoral fraud, sidney harr, has tried to make a case for injustice....on the basis of race. More total bullshit. What, harr? No dead bodies laying around for you to paw?; November 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Anonymous said...: .....A quote from KC Johnson.....commenting about those who continue to rant about the LAX rape hoax.

"How can a crime that never happened be used to demonstrate a “larger problem” whose relevance to the case would make sense only if the crime had actually occurred?"

I read DIW to learn, to be educated and informed by KC Johnson.
I occasionally read this web site in the same spirit as I occasionally look to see what the idiots in the Westboro Baptist Church are saying, what lies the New Black Panthers have been shouting, and what kind of antisemitic dribble Farrakhan has been spewing....
thank goodness for Walt, Lance and Dr. Anon...........; November 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "I read DIW to learn, to be educated and informed by KC Johnson"....... And Dr. Johnson like Dr. Harr is no fan of Duke.; November 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM
Anonymous said...: incorrect, hissy boy. Johnson has issues with specific people and acts in the duke administration…….brodhead, the former athletic director , the former PR director, etc…….over the way duke literally strung up the LAX guys, caved to the class-gender-race afro studies academics, the pot bangers, like wahneema lubiano and others……..and the way brodhead, to this day, has never been held accountable for his absolutely reprehensible treatment of the LAX three and their families. Johnson does NOT hold some kind of paranoid fantasy grudge against duke. don't be an idiot and try to compare Johnson with scumbag harr; November 4, 2013 at 5:23 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"And Dr. Johnson like Dr. Harr is no fan of Duke."

Right

on

kennyhyderal; November 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "I've just uploaded a new Rectifier... number three!"

Now Sid's on the side of sports agents giving improper benefits college athletes.

(rolls eyes)

Walt-in-Durham; November 5, 2013 at 3:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Are you planning on commenting on the dozen or so motions filed by Mangum's attorney?; November 5, 2013 at 4:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Anon, any way to view the motions filed by Mangum's attorney that you mentioned? Would like to read these…...; November 5, 2013 at 4:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Hilarious……Mangum wants a gag order!!!!! Oh lord, the fun just never stops.
It's just good lawyer tactics, folks, throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and something just might stick. Too funny.; November 5, 2013 at 4:24 AM
Anonymous said...: The dead-body posting Harr now wants to put his pig, Eric Leak, in a prom dress. Truth is that Leak has gotten caught, repeatedly, violating rules that are not just NCAA-imposed, but also arise from the university's own policies. But, again, hey……more of the same racist bullcrap from the man who thinks its OK to violate the ultimate privacy of a dead man and his family. Why wouldn't a truly bastard like Harr see nothing wrong with unethical individuals like Leak and his wife? Birds of a feather, folks……
Of course, we have yet another example of how harr views the world……if you are black, you are a victim of the evil white oppressor, and you should get a pass for everything you wish and elect to do. Commit a crime? No problem, white man made me do it. Lie, steal, rape, murder, it does not matter. You are black……hooray……it is never your fault. It's that evil white man's law that does not apply to you. That's the basic pond scum intelligence of individuals like harr.
Kill a little boy? Not your fault? Shoot Eve Carson five times at close range while she is asking you to pray with her? Of course, you're black, you get a pass. KIll a Duke student by shooting him point blank between his eyes while you hold a pillow over his face? Free pass, you're black! Rack of nine convictions, lie your ass off, kill a man? No problem…….you're black!
That's harr's way of thinking………professional victimhood. And, of course, it is the way HE has lived HIS life. It's the white man's fault. Always……. What a racist and truly wretched way to live…...; November 5, 2013 at 4:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Interesting point, Walt…..you think the state will be allowed to bring in character, based on Mangum's prior "crimes"? The exception…… Can they get in her history of deceit in the LAX case? (not a crime as such to lie…..????) But how about her convictions in the Walker case? Threats of violence, using a knife, in the presence of an officer?
I understand how her attorney might try to keep out the LAX case; just wondering what you think, and how the state might get in "character"……..?; November 5, 2013 at 5:00 AM
Anonymous said...: KC Johnson is not a fan of Duke. Know what, troll, that's almost correct. Johnson has consistently and publicly expressed his dislike for the way certain members of the Board and the Administration ran roughshod over the rights of the LAX guys, the way they assumed guilt, they way they imlicitedly endorsed the potbanging asshat group of 88, the way they refused to treat the LAX guys honorably.... yep, Johnson has condemned this behavior by certain individuals at duke for years! It was not until the TRUTH came out that Brodhead got on the bandwagon and tried to cover up his reprehensible treatment of the LAX guys and their families.; November 5, 2013 at 6:15 AM
Anonymous said...: The trial for Mangum is scheduled the 12th, right? I guess that means the actual session could be any day that week?? Or, postponed yet again? Now the judge has to wade through the pile of defense motions. Good strategy by Mangum's lawyer, I suppose...to do all he can to stall as long as he can. My understanding of the law is an inch deep and a mile wide, so not sure.....but I think "character" can't be brought in except when it relates to past criminal acts by the defendant, or, maybe if the defense is trying to destroy Daye's character, somehow the state could get in Mangum's??? Walt???; November 5, 2013 at 6:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Walt and A-Lawyer, Lance, how do you think rule 404 will be sorted out in Mangum's trial?; November 5, 2013 at 6:21 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "I've just uploaded a new Rectifier... number three!"

Now Sid's on the side of sports agents giving improper benefits college athletes.

(rolls eyes)

Walt-in-Durham

Hey, Walt.

What sport agent? Eric Leak is not a sport agent. The media refers to him as a "booster" which is supposed to mislead people into believing that he is a sport agent.

As far as "impermissible benefits" go, I against any law or rule that discourages one person from helping out another human being in need. I don't think the Man from Nazareth would approve of the NCAA impermissible benefits rule.; November 5, 2013 at 7:08 AM
Walt said...: Anon at 6:18 and Anon at 6:21 both brought up the character issue and Evidence Rule 404 with regard to Crystal's trial.

Some general comments. Character is not admissible to prove conduct. Evid.R. 404(a). However, the accused (Crystal) could attempt to introduce evidence of her good character under 404(a)(1). That would open the door to the state introducing the opposite. Given Crystal's record of anger management issues, she probably will not want to open the door under 404(a)(1).

If Crystal takes the stand to testify, especially about self-defense, the state could come in with character evidence under rule 404(a)(3) to show her general reputation for untruthfulness. That is all but a given with her record of multiple contradictory stories in the lacrosse fiasco. Now, her each and every story doesn't come into evidence, but the state could call a witness to testify as to her "general reputation for truthfulness." The specific instances of untruthfulness can come in on cross examination. Evid.R. 405(b). The use of character evidence changed with the adoption of the rules of evidence.

Walt-in-Durham; November 5, 2013 at 7:09 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "As far as Mangum goes, there's been no bungling on my part!"

Sabotage is more like it. You breached the attorney client privilege by publishing the defense expert's opinion. That opinion ends all hopes the defense had on the intervening cause issue. Even though that was tenuous at best, you removed all doubt when you did not have to. The rules which make privileged those communications between attorney and client are there to protect the defense from unwarranted disclosure. By willfully violating that privilege and publishing the privileged information you sabotaged Crystal's defense.

With friends like you, Crystal does not need any enemies.

Walt, I do not know what Dr. Roberts' opinion is because what I heard I got secondhand from Crystal. Dr. Roberts put nothing in writing, and I believe if she allegedly told Mangum that the autopsy report was accurate, she did so to mislead Mangum.

I am the best thing for Mangum... without a doubt.; November 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid,

Are you planning on commenting on the dozen or so motions filed by Mangum's attorney?

What motions? I'm not aware of Attorney Meier filing any motions.; November 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Hilarious……Mangum wants a gag order!!!!! Oh lord, the fun just never stops.
It's just good lawyer tactics, folks, throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and something just might stick. Too funny.

The last thing Mangum needs is a gag order. She has nothing to hide. Duke University Hospital and the medical examiner are the only ones to benefit by a gag order.... Keep the truth hidden from the people.; November 5, 2013 at 7:16 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "What sport agent? Eric Leak is not a sport agent."

Eric Leak admits he owns Hot Shot Sports. Hot Shot Sports has eight professional athletes under contract. Hot Shot Sports arranges memorabilia and autograph signings for those athletes. That makes Leak a sports agent.

"As far as "impermissible benefits" go, I against any law or rule that discourages one person from helping out another human being in need."

Interesting choice of humans to help. I think I'll go help some homeless folks down at the Durham Rescue Mission. Or, I think I'll go help some fellows who are about to become multi-millionaire professional athletes. Have to wonder who is motivated by mammon?

"I don't think the Man from Nazareth would approve of the NCAA impermissible benefits rule."

I think Christ would disagree with you. "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:19-21,24 (KJV)

Walt-in-Durham; November 5, 2013 at 7:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Harr truly is an idiot.......and a miserable ass for posting those photos of Daye. A true SOB; November 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "What motions? I'm not aware of Attorney Meier filing any motions."

ROFLMAO,

Walt-in-Durham; November 5, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Yep, there he goes, playing the old Jesus card again. already play the race card........now the Jesus card.....; November 5, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Anonymous said...: What???? Do you mean to tell me that Lawyer Meier did NOT call you up and ask permission to file motions? Holy Jesus, Nooooooooooooooo! What is this world coming to, bro? Oh my goodness, hell hath no fury like a lunatic lawyer-wannabe (you) SCORNED.; November 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM
Anonymous said...: harr, read slowly ....only little words will follow. Mangum's attorney filed a motion to keep questions about the LAX case out of her trial for Daye's murder. He is trying to prevent the state from bringing in her history of lying, I would assume. Her truthfulness is certainly questionable, given that she LIED about having been raped. The judge will determine where to grant the defense motion. Walt has already explained Rule 404....look it up, Harr.; November 5, 2013 at 7:50 AM
Anonymous said...: You don't know what roberts' opinion is because you got it second hand from Mangum? Wow, are you saying that Mangum might not be reliable, or might not have told you the truth? If she lied and said roberts told her there were problems with the autopsy report, then, wow....Mangum is, surprise, a liar. If Mangum told you the truth, i.e., that roberts found no problems with the autopsy report, then, wow, surprise..........the expert in forensics, pathology, etc.....has SUBSTANTIATED the ME's findings and YOU, dumbass, blew Mangum's case right out of the water.; November 5, 2013 at 7:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Playing the race card, the jesus card, the I-don't-have-access-to-the-internet/library-card, the they-are-out-to-get-me-because-I-am-black/Nifong's bitch-card, the poor-me-card, or my personal favorite, "the I-am-clever-witty-card".......................GIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!; November 5, 2013 at 8:04 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "What motions? I'm not aware of Attorney Meier filing any motions."

ROFLMAO,

Walt-in-Durham

Hey, Walt, I'm not hip like you. I require further elucidation. Could you spell it out for me?; November 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "What sport agent? Eric Leak is not a sport agent."

Eric Leak admits he owns Hot Shot Sports. Hot Shot Sports has eight professional athletes under contract. Hot Shot Sports arranges memorabilia and autograph signings for those athletes. That makes Leak a sports agent.

"As far as "impermissible benefits" go, I against any law or rule that discourages one person from helping out another human being in need."

Interesting choice of humans to help. I think I'll go help some homeless folks down at the Durham Rescue Mission. Or, I think I'll go help some fellows who are about to become multi-millionaire professional athletes. Have to wonder who is motivated by mammon?

"I don't think the Man from Nazareth would approve of the NCAA impermissible benefits rule."

I think Christ would disagree with you. "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:19-21,24 (KJV)

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, answer me this. Is Eric Leak registered within the State of North Carolina as a sports agent? This is not my field of expertise, but it is my understanding that all sports agents must be registered with the state. Could you please provide enlightenment if you can?; November 5, 2013 at 8:13 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
harr, read slowly ....only little words will follow. Mangum's attorney filed a motion to keep questions about the LAX case out of her trial for Daye's murder. He is trying to prevent the state from bringing in her history of lying, I would assume. Her truthfulness is certainly questionable, given that she LIED about having been raped. The judge will determine where to grant the defense motion. Walt has already explained Rule 404....look it up, Harr.

Don't wear yourself out... I can handle big words.

When did Attorney Meier file the motions? I never heard anything about it in the media... of course, that's not surprising as the media is part of the conspiratorial cover-up.; November 5, 2013 at 8:16 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
You don't know what roberts' opinion is because you got it second hand from Mangum? Wow, are you saying that Mangum might not be reliable, or might not have told you the truth? If she lied and said roberts told her there were problems with the autopsy report, then, wow....Mangum is, surprise, a liar. If Mangum told you the truth, i.e., that roberts found no problems with the autopsy report, then, wow, surprise..........the expert in forensics, pathology, etc.....has SUBSTANTIATED the ME's findings and YOU, dumbass, blew Mangum's case right out of the water.

Permit some elucidation. I believe that Mangum told the truth about what Dr. Roberts told her, but that what Dr. Roberts told Mangum was a lie.

Comprende?; November 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Harr truly is an idiot.......and a miserable ass for posting those photos of Daye. A true SOB

Aw, quit pretending that you're offended by those photos.; November 5, 2013 at 8:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Awww, quit pretending you are a decent human being.......; November 5, 2013 at 8:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Aw, quit pretending you are anything but a racist loser.....; November 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM
Anonymous said...: It's in the media, asshat; November 5, 2013 at 8:43 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "incorrect, hissy boy. Johnson has issues with specific people and acts in the duke administration…….brodhead, the former athletic director , the former PR director, etc"........... Yeah, right Other then President Broadhead, VP Trask, Provost Land, PR Director Shoenfeld, Dean Wasiolek and 88 of their Professors, KC just loves Duke.; November 5, 2013 at 9:17 AM
kenhyderal said...: Ooops I forgot former Athletic Director Aleva; November 5, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Nope, troll, nobody said Johnson loves Duke. It's just that most of us have enough brains to know that Duke is not some single-celled monolith. Johnson has, in the past, made highly complimentary statements about specific individuals, etc, within the overall Duke organization. Saying you love or hate Duke is stupid and ignorant. Duke encompasses multiple hospitals, a faculty in excess of 800, multiple academic colleges, a total workforce in excess of 14,000 people, and thousands of acres, buildings, etc. I doubt anybody with a brain would, with a straight face, say they love or hate ALL of Duke. Johnson, to his credit, never has either blanket condemned nor whitewashed Duke. He has identified those individuals, acts, and reactions that he believes violated the LAX guys' rights and betrayed trust. He has also, troll, publicly praised those who stood up to Brodhead, and who refused to go along with the 88 idiots.
Oh, and by the way, troll, I don't see KC Johnson posting photos of a dead man. Do you,troll?; November 5, 2013 at 9:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Isn't it ironic that harr rants about "who cares"....concerning the death of Reginald Daye...claiming nobody cares...that Daye was just an expendable black man....that nobody cared about. Isn't it ironic!
He, who pisses and moans about a lack of concern and respect for the death of a black man....is the one who engages in the ULTIMATE DISRESPECT of showing this man on his deathbed. Of all the absolutely sleazy things to do..........and this jerk is the guy who spouts his self righteous jesus crap! What a flaming hypocrite! Do unto others, harr..........so I agree with what others have said........ too bad somebody doesn't have a photo of your deceased wife to publish here; November 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP! IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

I've just uploaded a new Rectifier... number three!

As you were."

That's as exciting as, HEY EVERYBODY, I just popped a pimple on my face.; November 5, 2013 at 1:13 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"What I am saying is that I believe that it is very probable that Daye was murdered, but that I cannot prove it without a doubt."

What you are saying is you know nothing about either medicine or the law.

"As far as Mangum goes, there's been no bungling on my part!"

You keep calling her the victim/accuser in the Lacrosse case. That is a very obvious case of bungling on your part.; November 5, 2013 at 1:17 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"I don't think the Man from Nazareth would approve of the NCAA impermissible benefits rule."

You do believe that the Man from Nazareth, aka The Way, the TRUTH, and the Life, wpould approve of all the lies and distortions you misrepresent as the truth.; November 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Walt, I do not know what Dr. Roberts' opinion is because what I heard I got secondhand from Crystal. Dr. Roberts put nothing in writing, and I believe if she allegedly told Mangum that the autopsy report was accurate, she did so to mislead Mangum."

Which means you know nothing.

"I am the best thing for Mangum... without a doubt."

There are megatons of vey serious doubt about that. You are too much of a deluded megalomaniac to realize that.; November 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Don't wear yourself out... I can handle big words."
show an abysmal ignorance of what little words, like truth and felony murder mean.

"When did Attorney Meier file the motions? I never heard anything about it in the media... of course, that's not surprising as the media is part of the conspiratorial cover-up."

Like a deluded megalomaniac you presume you have a right to know about the motions.

There is no conspiratorial coverup. Your assertion that there is shows why no none wants you to know about the motions. No one wants a deluded megalomaniac crashing the court room to use the trial as a platform to spew out his megalomania.; November 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Permit some elucidation. I believe that Mangum told the truth about what Dr. Roberts told her, but that what Dr. Roberts told Mangum was a lie."

Please list the training and experience you have had to make you competent to make such a drcision.; November 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"Aw, quit pretending that you're offended by those photos."

If you do not think posting those photos was not out of line, you are truly a sad pathetic deluded megalomaniac.

I repeat a question another poster asked of you. How would you have reacted if someone posted pictures of your dead wife on line? Not very much.

HYPOCRITE!!!; November 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

Check this out: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9312878:

"On Monday morning, Crystal Mangum's defense attorney filed more than a dozen motions that will have to be heard before the start of her murder trial."

And:

"Among the motions that will be heard Wednesday, Mangum is requesting individual jury selection because of 'sensitive issues' like pre-trial publicity or domestic violence. She also wants to jury to be allowed to visit the crime scene."; November 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Permit some elucidation. I believe that Mangum told the truth about what Dr. Roberts told her, but that what Dr. Roberts told Mangum was a lie.

Comprende?"

I understand that by breaching the attorney client privilege, you sabotaged the defense. Lie or not, now the state knows that the defense has no expert willing to dispute the autopsy findings. You harmed the defense. No one, not even Crystal Mangum, should have a treacherous "supporter" like you in her camp. You have done more to assure her conviction than anyone but she her ownself.

Walt-in-Durham; November 5, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, answer me this. Is Eric Leak registered within the State of North Carolina as a sports agent?"

Not as of the most recent listing of agents.

"This is not my field of expertise, but it is my understanding that all sports agents must be registered with the state."

There are exceptions to the registration requirement, unfortunately the only penalty for failure to register is voiding contracts. The problem for Leak is if any of his contracts violate the substantive portions of the law that apply regardless of registration. Leak, by his own admission, is acting as an agent by representing athletes for memorabilia shows and autograph signing. Further, the University and the NCAA have already found he is in violation of NCAA regulation and NCSU rules for providing impermissible benefits.; November 5, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Anonymous said...: How 'bout you post some pictures of your dead wife?; November 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM
kenhyderal said...: In a letter to The Duke Chronicle Dated Oct. 6 2007 Duke Law Professor James Coleman and Prodessor Prasad Khasibatla wrote: "We are impressed with President Richard Brodhead’s continued attempts to reach out to all members of the Duke community to promote healing and reconciliation in the wake of last year’s lacrosse incident, as evidence by his recent remarks at the Duke School of Law. We are disheartened, however, by the continued drumbeat of destructive criticism of the administration and faculty by some within and outside the Duke Community. More importantly, as chairs of two of the five committees that examined various issues brought to light by the lacrosse incident last spring, we take issue with the biased and inaccurate rhetoric espoused by some of these critics. Firstly, we reject the characterization put forward by critics like Stuart Taylor and KC Johnson that the Lacrosse Committee report, that examined the past behavior of the lacrosse team, is a “stunning vindication” of the team (Washington Post, September 7, 2007). On the contrary, the report very carefully details a pattern of behavior that the committee characterized as “socially irresponsible” that should “have been a cause for alarm.” Dismissing this finding as trivial is a biased and unjustified misrepresentation of the facts. Secondly, there is a recurring theme advanced by critics like Taylor and Johnson that the faculty at Duke and at other universities are increasingly a bunch of ideologues who care less about the their students and more about promoting their own extremist agendas. Nothing could be further from the truth. Faculty at Duke, as at other universities and colleges, care deeply about students and are passionately committed to their personal and intellectual growth. Anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the daily life of a faculty member will quickly appreciate the time, effort and energy that faculty put into teaching, advising and mentoring students. To suggest otherwise, on the basis of isolated and selective incidents that occur over the course of complex events and are taken out of context, is nothing more than a tragic rush to judgment.

–James Coleman, Professor of the Practice of Law, Duke School of Law and Prasad Khasibatla, Associate Professor, Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences; November 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Troll knows how to use the copy and paste function. Nice. Most of us have read the Coleman comments from 2007……..
Coleman has his perspective on Johnson….from 2007 and now……..and that's cool.
I'd suggest that comparing the scholarship and integrity of KC Johnson to that of Sidney Harr is a bit like comparing Olympic athletes to Saturday night television "wrastlin'".
By the way, Coleman has never endorsed the scummy behavior of the faculty who participated in the pot banging incident, nor has he ever condoned Broadhead's treatment of the LAX guys and their families. In fact, I would say that Coleman, though reactive to Johnson's sharp criticism of the gender-class-race crowd (particularly the notorious Lubiano), has been just as critically outspoken about the shameful behavior of some of the very same administrators and board members who Johnson has consistently targeted.
Durham In Wonderland………outstanding. Justice4Nifong………….the reason Depends were invented.; November 6, 2013 at 3:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Wheeeeee……..I can hit the copy button, tooooo!!!!

….from Kurt Anderson, NY mag……"Thus the enthralling power of the Duke lacrosse-team story when it broke last spring. As a senior Times alumnus recently e-mailed me, “You couldn’t invent a story so precisely tuned to the outrage frequency of the modern, metropolitan, bien pensant journalist.” That is: successful white men at the Harvard of the South versus a poor single mother enrolled at a local black college, jerky superstar jocks versus $400 out-call strippers, a boozy Animal House party, shouts of “nigger,” and a three-orifice gangbang rape in a bathroom.

The story appalled us good-hearted liberal metropolitans, but absolutely galvanized the loopy left at Duke. One associate professor, Wahneema Lubiano, could barely disguise her glee. “The members of the team,” she wrote in a blog, “are almost perfect offenders” because they’re “the exemplars of the upper end of the class hierarchy … and the dominant social group on campus.”

..Only one tiny little problem with Wahneeeeeema's orgasmic anticipation of lynching the LAX guys……darn it, the poor single mother enrolled in the local black college was a LIAR".
Aw, shucks……; November 6, 2013 at 3:49 AM
Walt said...: Early word from the court house is the motions are upstairs in Superior Court for hearing on Wednesday.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 4:08 AM
Anonymous said...: wow, Walt, fast track for Durham………you figure they will actually begin picking a jury next week?; November 6, 2013 at 4:57 AM
Walt said...: I have posted a new story at http://walt-in-durham.blogspot.com/ about the continued fiasco fall out.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 5:12 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 4:57 AM wrote: "wow, Walt, fast track for Durham………you figure they will actually begin picking a jury next week?"

With a dozen motions set for hearing today, don't be surprised if there is yet another continuance. However, these are the typical pre-trial motions. Crystal's main issue is to keep the fiasco out so she can testify about self-defense. If she loses that motion, the case is over for her. If she wins, she will have to be very careful how she testifies. She can still open the door to reputation evidence (see my comment above about how rule 405 and 404 work together).

Remember, a motion in limine is just a preliminary ruling. The court can always change its ruling during trial if different evidence emerges. A motion in limine is just to help guide the attorneys, it's not a final ruling.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 5:20 AM
Anonymous said...: KENHYDERAL:

First, only a blatant unrepentant racist would call the group of 88 statement an expression of concern for Duke students. The only concern these people had was whether or not the falsely accused Lacrosse players would be convicted. They wanted them convicted simply because they did not like who the Lacrosse players were. That is bias and prejudice, nothing more.

Second, Professor Coleman did not present any statistical analysis of the figures he reported. Statistical analysis establishes whether or not the figures you observe were due to chance. In research like this(and calling it research is a bit of a stretch) unless one can show the results were not due to random chance, the results are significant of nothing. There are two possibilities. Either Professor Coleman just did not do a statistical analysis, which would be as egregious an error as Julie Manly not doing a wet mount. Or he did an analysis and it failed to show his results were significant.

Third, the group of 88 included Houston Baker who published a racist rant about the Lacrosse team and who called the mother of one of the Lacrosse players(who was trying to be conciliatory) the mother of a farm animal. If someone called Karla Holloway the mother of a farm animal, Houston Baker would have vehemently denounced the individual as racist.

You say black on white racism does not exist. That reminds me of the statement, the devil's greatest triumph is in convincing people he does not exist.

In my opinion, you have sold your soul to one hell of a devil.; November 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM
Anonymous said...: She's in a pickle....seemingly...either way. If the LAX mess can come in, then she is gonna have one helluva time getting a jury to believe her self defense claim based on her veracity, alone. With no physical beating, that might be a tough hurdle for her attorney. If the LAX stuff does not come in, AND, she testifies, would the state try to bring in her history of violence (against Walker and his property?). If she does not testify, AND the LAX history is kept out, then I guess her attorney might think he has a shot.
She's a proven liar....multiple lies in the LAX case. If the LAX case does not come in, then I still think the state will find ti fairly easy to introduce "interesting contradictions" around her statements concerning stabbing Daye. I assume her attorney will NOT utter a single word about the silliness of duke being responsible.....right?; November 6, 2013 at 6:42 AM
Anonymous said...: The Group of 88, in violation of University policy, used University resources to publish a piece of unsubstantiated, undocumented, unsupported rubbish, including CLEARLY accusatory statements directed at the LAX guys. Only an idiot would try to claim those wingnuts didn't target the LAX guys. Further, the "ad" condoned the potbanging crap AND the signs on campus that read "lynch"! Not one of these airheaded cretins had the character and decency to apologize when Mangum was proven to be a stone pole vaulting liar. Nice, really nice! I want to point out that over 700 faculty members did NOT sign the damn ad....and it was mostly signed by the gender-sex-class crowd, including the likes of Chaffe, Lubiano, and Baker.
Johnson rightfully objected to the lynch mentality on the campus AND to the guilty presumption that was the underpinning of Brodhead-Aleva-Steele's behavior. As good old slimy Joe said, "Hey, it aint about the truth"....
Hooray for KC.....then and now! and Pxxx on scumbag harr; November 6, 2013 at 6:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I don't think the Man from Nazareth would approve of the NCAA impermissible benefits rule."

You do believe that the Man from Nazareth, aka The Way, the TRUTH, and the Life, wpould approve of all the lies and distortions you misrepresent as the truth.

The truth can sometimes be like bad tasting medicine... hard to swallow.; November 6, 2013 at 7:17 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Permit some elucidation. I believe that Mangum told the truth about what Dr. Roberts told her, but that what Dr. Roberts told Mangum was a lie."

Please list the training and experience you have had to make you competent to make such a drcision.

I'm too busy to do research work for you. Take the advice of our governor Pat McCrory and "get off your butt and do it yourself."; November 6, 2013 at 7:21 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Walt, answer me this. Is Eric Leak registered within the State of North Carolina as a sports agent?"

Not as of the most recent listing of agents.

"This is not my field of expertise, but it is my understanding that all sports agents must be registered with the state."

There are exceptions to the registration requirement, unfortunately the only penalty for failure to register is voiding contracts. The problem for Leak is if any of his contracts violate the substantive portions of the law that apply regardless of registration. Leak, by his own admission, is acting as an agent by representing athletes for memorabilia shows and autograph signing. Further, the University and the NCAA have already found he is in violation of NCAA regulation and NCSU rules for providing impermissible benefits.

Walt, if C. J. Leslie were not an athlete, and was instead a computer nerd attending NC State, and his car got wrecked and he needed transportation, would you criticize Eric Leak for lending him one of his cars?

I don't think so.; November 6, 2013 at 7:26 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Sid wrote: "Permit some elucidation. I believe that Mangum told the truth about what Dr. Roberts told her, but that what Dr. Roberts told Mangum was a lie.

Comprende?"

I understand that by breaching the attorney client privilege, you sabotaged the defense. Lie or not, now the state knows that the defense has no expert willing to dispute the autopsy findings. You harmed the defense. No one, not even Crystal Mangum, should have a treacherous "supporter" like you in her camp. You have done more to assure her conviction than anyone but she her ownself.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, believe me, Dr. Roberts knows not only that Daye died as a result of an esophageal intubation, but she is also aware that the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols is false and fraudulent. I believe that attorneys on both sides, along with the media, will try to keep that hidden from the public.; November 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 6:42 AM wrote: "She's in a pickle....seemingly...either way. If the LAX mess can come in, then she is gonna have one helluva time getting a jury to believe her self defense claim based on her veracity, alone."

If I was to handicap the rulings, I think lacrosse stays out unless she opens the door.

"With no physical beating, that might be a tough hurdle for her attorney."

That is the biggest problem for self-defense. It all hinges on her testimony. This time she doesn't have a good witness-cop to tell her version of the story. She's got a cop who will say she lawyered up and all he knows is what the late Reginald Daye told him and that is all backed up by the physical evidence. Opening rounds go to the state.

"If the LAX stuff does not come in, AND, she testifies, would the state try to bring in her history of violence (against Walker and his property?)."

I have not seen the motions, I will, hopefully, later today. Maybe even the judge's rulings. (That's wishful thinking, the Judge will take this all under advisement.) However, I don't think Meier will be so foolish as to let the state have a chance to bring in the Walker case. If he does, Crystal's in trouble.

"If she does not testify, AND the LAX history is kept out, then I guess her attorney might think he has a shot."

That's what's called plea bargining with the jury, which is Meier's best shot. He will argue that she's not a murderer, just a stabber who doesn't deserve life in prison, but a lesser sentence. She didn't mean to kill him, that part was all just a mistake - have mercy on her, please, please, please.

"She's a proven liar....multiple lies in the LAX case. If the LAX case does not come in, then I still think the state will find ti fairly easy to introduce "interesting contradictions" around her statements concerning stabbing Daye."

Rest assured, the state is going to point out her interesting contradictions surrounding the stabbing of Daye. Just because I think the jury will go for misdemeanor manslaughter doesn't mean that will happen. If things go well for the state, and Sid has made sure that at least the intervening cause issue will go very well for the state, they could get a long sentence.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
How 'bout you post some pictures of your dead wife?

Why?; November 6, 2013 at 7:31 AM
Walt said...: Sid wrote: "Walt, if C. J. Leslie were not an athlete, and was instead a computer nerd attending NC State, and his car got wrecked and he needed transportation, would you criticize Eric Leak for lending him one of his cars?"

Of course I wouldn't. But, that's not the situation. And, portraying this as some kind of act of charity is not the situation either. Leak didn't go down to the rescue mission to help the homeless. He sought out a future NBA star and befriended him with future gain in mind.

Walt-in-Durham; November 6, 2013 at 7:34 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Walt said...
Early word from the court house is the motions are upstairs in Superior Court for hearing on Wednesday.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt, thanks for the continued updates. No surprise, but the mainstream media is trying to suppress as much about this case as possible. There was nothing in the News & Observer, and the only TV news station that I am aware of covering Mangum's case is ABC-11.; November 6, 2013 at 7:37 AM
Anonymous said...: SIDNEY HARR:

"'I don't think the Man from Nazareth would approve of the NCAA impermissible benefits rule.'

You do believe that the Man from Nazareth, aka The Way, the TRUTH, and the Life, wpould approve of all the lies and distortions you misrepresent as the truth.

The truth can sometimes be like bad tasting medicine... hard to swallow."

How would you know? You have never really practiced medicine and have never told the truth.; November 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; November 6, 2013 at 7:40 AM

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