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Friday, April 20, 2018

Crystal Mangum's Motion for Appropriate Relief based on new evidence

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Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

In my haste to upload this post, I believe that a few of the buttons may not be working correctly, so I will have them all properly adjusted within a matter of six to eight hours.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

As you were.; April 20, 2018 at 12:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Is this your miracle?; April 20, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, Milton Walker's statement is an uncorroborated allegation, and not proof of anything.

I doubt you can provide any hard evidence that Officer Bond ever made any threats.; April 20, 2018 at 2:01 PM
Anonymous said...: The rest of Crystal's MAR is, as I expected, another rehash of your discredited delusions about the Duke Rape HOAX.; April 20, 2018 at 2:02 PM
A Lawyer said...: 1. There is no such thing under North Carolina law as a pretrial motion to dismiss the larceny of chose in action count. This has been explained to you many times, with citations to the statutes.
2. Larceny of chose in action was not (and could not have been) used to support a felony murder charge. No felony murder charge was ever brought against Mangum. This has been explained to you many times, with citations to the statutes.
3. Even if there was perjury before the grand jury, this would not jurisdictionally invalidate the indictment. This has been explained to you many times, with citations to the case law.
4. The only new allegation is an alleged recantation by a peripheral witness. This is not enough to get a new trial.
In short, another swing, another miss.; April 20, 2018 at 2:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Here we go again.

In this MAR Sidney recycles the observation, that Crystal identified three lacrosse players with a high degree of certainty.

He forgets that the procedure in which she identified her assailants with her high degree of certainty was an improperly conducted line up procedure and the results are not admissable evidence. Two of the men she identified with 100% certainty could prove with 100% certainty that they were not present at the alleged crime scene at the time the alleged crime allegedly happened. The third alleged assailant she identified with 90% certainty had a mustache, according to Crystal, had a mustache at the time of the alleged crime. She also was 100% certain that one Lacrosse player, Brad Ross, had been at the party. He showed with 100% certainty he had not attended the party.

And Sidney thinks cystal's(actually his) MAR will fly.

If anything, Sidney probably arranged for Milton Walker to call Crystal and allege he had been intimidated.; April 20, 2018 at 3:05 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
1. There is no such thing under North Carolina law as a pretrial motion to dismiss the larceny of chose in action count. This has been explained to you many times, with citations to the statutes.
2. Larceny of chose in action was not (and could not have been) used to support a felony murder charge. No felony murder charge was ever brought against Mangum. This has been explained to you many times, with citations to the statutes.
3. Even if there was perjury before the grand jury, this would not jurisdictionally invalidate the indictment. This has been explained to you many times, with citations to the case law.
4. The only new allegation is an alleged recantation by a peripheral witness. This is not enough to get a new trial.
In short, another swing, another miss.

April 20, 2018 at 2:36 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

Milton Walker is hardly a peripheral witness. He was used as a 404(b) to suggest a pattern of behavior by Mangum. He is the only witness to put the knife in Mangum's hand in the 2010 incident... Even the two police officers did not make such a perjured statement. But the media picked up on it with the WRAL headline "Ex-boyfriend says Mangum threatened him with knife."

Also, what is significant is that he was threatened to lie by the police officer. That's witness tampering. And it is the same police officer who gave perjured testimony before the grand jury... and was the grand jury's sole witness.

The question is: Will the court force the State to preserve and hand over the recording of the phone call? What is your guess?; April 20, 2018 at 5:11 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here we go again.

In this MAR Sidney recycles the observation, that Crystal identified three lacrosse players with a high degree of certainty.

He forgets that the procedure in which she identified her assailants with her high degree of certainty was an improperly conducted line up procedure and the results are not admissable evidence. Two of the men she identified with 100% certainty could prove with 100% certainty that they were not present at the alleged crime scene at the time the alleged crime allegedly happened. The third alleged assailant she identified with 90% certainty had a mustache, according to Crystal, had a mustache at the time of the alleged crime. She also was 100% certain that one Lacrosse player, Brad Ross, had been at the party. He showed with 100% certainty he had not attended the party.

And Sidney thinks cystal's(actually his) MAR will fly.

If anything, Sidney probably arranged for Milton Walker to call Crystal and allege he had been intimidated.

April 20, 2018 at 3:05 PM

Hey, Anony.

I'm not surprised that someone would advance the theory that either I or one of Mangum's friends would scheme to have Walker ask Crystal to call him. I don't know what, other than his conscience, motivated Walker to ask Crystal to contact him... I only know that it wasn't me. I don't have his contact information and would not do so even if I had it. If you hear the recording of the phone conversation you will be able to better judge for yourself. (Keep in mind, Milton did not want to testify against Crystal to begin with... even pleading with the judge while on the stand. Being the only witness to put a knife in Mangum's hand, you can bet that he was pressured into saying that. And it was something that WRAL jumped on immediately.) Hah!

Besides, it is the State that engages in nefarious underhanded conniving... like interfering with the federal court and interfering with the U.S. Postal Service. The State must cheat in order to prevail in the cases brought by Mangum.; April 20, 2018 at 5:21 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney, Milton Walker's statement is an uncorroborated allegation, and not proof of anything.

I doubt you can provide any hard evidence that Officer Bond ever made any threats.

April 20, 2018 at 2:01 PM

Walker's statement to Crystal was not staged, scripted, or planned... and it wasn't forced or made under extreme duress. The same cannot be said for his testimony at trial in which he clearly make it known that he did not want to testify against his friend. If you read the transcript of his testimony, you can see that it is hesitant, disjointed and wandering.

There is no doubt in my mind that Bond threatened him, and I believe that the recording will support that he made false statements at trial because he felt threatened to do so.

Do you believe that the Court should order the State to provide the recording and transcript of the phone call to Mangum?; April 20, 2018 at 5:29 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is this your miracle?

April 20, 2018 at 1:51 PM

Actually, it was not. I was working on something entirely different when I first learned of the phone call by Walker during a visit with Ms. Mangum. But its importance and relevance was immediately recognized as Crystal worked on the Motion for Appropriate Relief based on this new evidence of witness tampering by Officer Bond.; April 20, 2018 at 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here we go again.

In this MAR Sidney recycles the observation, that Crystal identified three lacrosse players with a high degree of certainty.

He forgets that the procedure in which she identified her assailants with her high degree of certainty was an improperly conducted line up procedure and the results are not admissable evidence. Two of the men she identified with 100% certainty could prove with 100% certainty that they were not present at the alleged crime scene at the time the alleged crime allegedly happened. The third alleged assailant she identified with 90% certainty had a mustache, according to Crystal, had a mustache at the time of the alleged crime. She also was 100% certain that one Lacrosse player, Brad Ross, had been at the party. He showed with 100% certainty he had not attended the party.

And Sidney thinks cystal's(actually his) MAR will fly.

If anything, Sidney probably arranged for Milton Walker to call Crystal and allege he had been intimidated.

April 20, 2018 at 3:05 PM

Hey, Anony.

I'm not surprised that someone would advance the theory that either I or one of Mangum's friends would scheme to have Walker ask Crystal to call him. I don't know what, other than his conscience, motivated Walker to ask Crystal to contact him... I only know that it wasn't me. I don't have his contact information and would not do so even if I had it. If you hear the recording of the phone conversation you will be able to better judge for yourself. (Keep in mind, Milton did not want to testify against Crystal to begin with... even pleading with the judge while on the stand. Being the only witness to put a knife in Mangum's hand, you can bet that he was pressured into saying that. And it was something that WRAL jumped on immediately.) Hah!

Besides, it is the State that engages in nefarious underhanded conniving... like interfering with the federal court and interfering with the U.S. Postal Service. The State must cheat in order to prevail in the cases brought by Mangum."

Yet another manifestation of Sidney's delusional megaloania.

Reminds me of the time he admitted he had no evidence Duke conspered to discriminate against him at the Breyer event but a reasonable man would surmise Duke had.; April 20, 2018 at 6:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"There is no doubt in my mind that Bond threatened him, and I believe that the recording will support that he made false statements at trial because he felt threatened to do so."

Say that to the court and see how far you get with it.; April 20, 2018 at 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, finally you have something that might help with Walker coming forth. But, you file a MAR filled with all yours and Mangum's past failures. Keep it short and just to the point on Walker only. You drift all over the place, and that is not going to get you anyway.; April 20, 2018 at 6:30 PM
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(When will I see you again?); April 20, 2018 at 6:39 PM
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You chuck it on that one, ya chuck it on this one
You chuck it on ya mother and ya chuck it on ya father
You chuck it on ya brother and ya chuck it on ya sister
And you chuck it on that one and ya chuck it on me!

Bad boys, bad boys
What'cha gonna do?
What'cha gonna do when they come for you?
Bad boys, bad boys
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What'cha gonna do when they come for you?; April 20, 2018 at 6:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Have you considered filing a motion to compel the state to preserve the broomstick?; April 20, 2018 at 7:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Actually, it was not. I was working on something entirely different when I first learned of the phone call by Walker during a visit with Ms. Mangum. But its importance and relevance was immediately recognized as Crystal worked on the Motion for Appropriate Relief based on this new evidence of witness tampering by Officer Bond."

The only "evidence" that Milton Walker recanted his testimony is Crysta;'s claim he did so. The only evidence Crystal was raped was Crystal's word, and her word was not at all credible. As has been pointed out to you, Crystal alleged a gang rape in which members of the Lacrosse team had deposited their DNA on her, and the only male DNA found on her person did not match the DNA of any of the men she accused, which is irrefutable evidence she did lie about being raped.; April 21, 2018 at 2:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

According to the MAR, Crystal made the phone call to Milton Walker. Let's get the transcript and post it to see if that is actually what he said, that he had been subjected to threats by Officer Bond. In any event, he did not come forward with anything. One wonders why Crystal called him. Did you have anything to do with it? Did you tell her what to say, to do something like leading the witness?; April 21, 2018 at 2:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Why doesn’t Sid just call Milton Walker and get an affidavit? Oh, and rather than wait months for the Court to look at the MAR, why not send a letter to the prison asking them to save it? But the call isn’t your key, Milton is. You need to talk to him.; April 21, 2018 at 4:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

In one of the letters attached to your filing, you state that you and Crystal are considering marrying. All I can say is that you are one sick puppy.; April 21, 2018 at 9:04 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney

At one point in your latest screed you mentioned that Crystal identified three members of the Lacrosse team with a high degree of uncertainty.

At another point you mentioned that someone demonstrated that eye witness identifications were not at all reliable. I believe you mentioned that in one of your other J4N screeds.

Why should Crystal's identifications be considered reliable? Because she was a black woman accusing white men of a crime?

The Scottsoro thing happened because racists believed the white women who accuse the black men. Your attitude makes you like your wacko=lyte Kenhyderal a black on white guilt presumong racist with the morals and ethics of the Scottsboro persecutors.; April 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM
Anonymous said...: That’s gross, Sid.; April 21, 2018 at 1:18 PM
guiowen said...: Good luck on this, Sidney. Sorry there are no conjugal visits allowed in NC. However,

"Home Leave Program – This program is available to minimum custody level III inmates who are within 12 months of a release date or parole eligibility date. "

Hope this works out somehow.; April 21, 2018 at 4:57 PM
Anonymous said...: This explains why Kenny has disappeared.; April 21, 2018 at 5:33 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid:

In one of the letters attached to your filing, you state that you and Crystal are considering marrying. All I can say is that you are one sick puppy.

April 21, 2018 at 9:04 AM

Hey, Anony.

For the vast majority of the past six years, I have visited Crystal Mangum in prison once every week at two hour sessions. I will admit that like you, I had preconceived notions about the kind of person Crystal was based upon characterizations in the media. But I've spent considerably more time getting to know Crystal than the anyone in the media. In fact, I doubt that anyone knows Crystal better than I... and I have found that Crystal is an extremely kind, generous, intelligent, beautiful woman with a great sense of humor who loves animals and children, and has strength based on religion.

My only consideration has to do with our age difference... I'm thirty years her senior, and I do not believe that it would necessarily be to her benefit to commit to a relationship with someone so much older.

In the past, Crystal had been criticized for her poor selection in men... I believe that that cannot be said in this case.

Anyway, first things first. The first of which is getting Crystal out of confinement so that she can reunite with her children.; April 21, 2018 at 6:08 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Good luck on this, Sidney. Sorry there are no conjugal visits allowed in NC. However,

"Home Leave Program – This program is available to minimum custody level III inmates who are within 12 months of a release date or parole eligibility date. "

Hope this works out somehow.

April 21, 2018 at 4:57 PM

gui, mon ami, Thanks. But I'm patient enough to wait until Crystal is released... which I believe will be soon. With problems related to Durham Police Officer Marianne Bond being exposed, I anticipate that Mangum will walk free within a matter of weeks to months.; April 21, 2018 at 6:13 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney

At one point in your latest screed you mentioned that Crystal identified three members of the Lacrosse team with a high degree of uncertainty.

At another point you mentioned that someone demonstrated that eye witness identifications were not at all reliable. I believe you mentioned that in one of your other J4N screeds.

Why should Crystal's identifications be considered reliable? Because she was a black woman accusing white men of a crime?

The Scottsoro thing happened because racists believed the white women who accuse the black men. Your attitude makes you like your wacko=lyte Kenhyderal a black on white guilt presumong racist with the morals and ethics of the Scottsboro persecutors.

April 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM

It was reported that Crystal Mangum identified her perpetrators (from a photo lineup) at the Duke Lacrosse party with a high degree of certainty. And it is true that eyewitness identifications are not reliable under the most optimal circumstances and with the most intelligent and credible witness. (Such as the case of Ron Cotton and his accuser Jennifer Thompson.) The point that I would make therefore is: it is possible that Mangum may have made a mistake in the identification of her assailants... in other words her assailants may have been three different men in attendance at the Duke Lacrosse party. Mangum's statement that she was sexually assaulted at the party and the premise that the three identified Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent are not mutually exclusive.; April 21, 2018 at 6:28 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why doesn’t Sid just call Milton Walker and get an affidavit? Oh, and rather than wait months for the Court to look at the MAR, why not send a letter to the prison asking them to save it? But the call isn’t your key, Milton is. You need to talk to him.

April 21, 2018 at 4:49 AM

Hmmm. I don't think it would be advisable for me to contact Milton Walker and try to get an affidavit... because I would be accused of trying to manipulate a witness. And, there is no guarantee that he would be willing to give an affidavit. As it is now, Mr. Walker has made statements in a phone call that he initiated and spoken to Ms. Mangum in a spontaneous and unscripted phone conversation... one that is already recorded. Those statements should be more credible than the hesitant, disjointed testimony Walker gave at trial while under duress.

However, I disagree with your conclusions. I believe just the opposite... that the recorded phone call is the key, and that my talking to Milton Walker would be of no benefit and possibly detrimental.; April 21, 2018 at 6:40 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

According to the MAR, Crystal made the phone call to Milton Walker. Let's get the transcript and post it to see if that is actually what he said, that he had been subjected to threats by Officer Bond. In any event, he did not come forward with anything. One wonders why Crystal called him. Did you have anything to do with it? Did you tell her what to say, to do something like leading the witness?

April 21, 2018 at 2:36 AM

I believe that in the MAR under Statement of Facts, it is explained that the reason Mangum called Walker was as follows: (1) she received a letter from a friend Brian Taylor who asked her to give him a call; (2) the following day she called Taylor and Taylor gave her Walker's phone number and told her that Walker wanted her to call him; and (3) after she hung up from talking to Taylor, Mangum called Walker.

As far as Milton Walker goes, I have never met him, seen him, or communicated with him. And I have no intention of doing so in the future.; April 21, 2018 at 6:58 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney, finally you have something that might help with Walker coming forth. But, you file a MAR filled with all yours and Mangum's past failures. Keep it short and just to the point on Walker only. You drift all over the place, and that is not going to get you anyway.

April 20, 2018 at 6:30 PM

Hey, Anony. Thanks for the advice. I understand what you mean, and I realize that I probably put much more into briefs than is necessary, but I do so in order for the reader to get the full extent of the injustices against Mangum.; April 21, 2018 at 7:04 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid,

Have you considered filing a motion to compel the state to preserve the broomstick?

April 20, 2018 at 7:25 PM

Hardy-harr-harr. So funny I almost forgot to laugh.; April 21, 2018 at 7:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney

At one point in your latest screed you mentioned that Crystal identified three members of the Lacrosse team with a high degree of uncertainty.

At another point you mentioned that someone demonstrated that eye witness identifications were not at all reliable. I believe you mentioned that in one of your other J4N screeds.

Why should Crystal's identifications be considered reliable? Because she was a black woman accusing white men of a crime?

The Scottsoro thing happened because racists believed the white women who accuse the black men. Your attitude makes you like your wacko=lyte Kenhyderal a black on white guilt presumong racist with the morals and ethics of the Scottsboro persecutors.

April 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM

It was reported that Crystal Mangum identified her perpetrators (from a photo lineup) at the Duke Lacrosse party with a high degree of certainty. And it is true that eyewitness identifications are not reliable under the most optimal circumstances and with the most intelligent and credible witness. (Such as the case of Ron Cotton and his accuser Jennifer Thompson.) The point that I would make therefore is: it is possible that Mangum may have made a mistake in the identification of her assailants... in other words her assailants may have been three different men in attendance at the Duke Lacrosse party. Mangum's statement that she was sexually assaulted at the party and the premise that the three identified Duke Lacrosse defendants were innocent are not mutually exclusive."

Yes they are.

The evidence generated in the case shs beyond a doubt that crystal was not raped at the party, that she LIED when she claimed she had been raped.; April 22, 2018 at 2:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

to my last comment I add:

Crystal alleged a gang rape in which she was beaten and in which the perpetrators had deposited their DNA on her person.

On physical exam in the DUMC ER she had no findings consistent with a severe beating, and the male DNA found on her person did not match the DNA of anyone who had been at the party(Kenhyderal's baseless allegation that there were unidentified non Lacrosse player attendees not withstanding-Kenny has presented qero evidence there were unidentified party attendees).

Crystal LIED about being raped.; April 22, 2018 at 2:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"It was reported that Crystal Mangum identified her perpetrators (from a photo lineup) at the Duke Lacrosse party with a high degree of certainty."

Correction:

Crystal identified her perpetrators in an improperly conducted lineup procedure, conducted by an officer involved in the investigation, and Crystal was coached to identify members of the Lacrosse team.; April 22, 2018 at 2:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"I believe that in the MAR under Statement of Facts, it is explained that the reason Mangum called Walker was as follows: (1) she received a letter from a friend Brian Taylor who asked her to give him a call; (2) the following day she called Taylor and Taylor gave her Walker's phone number and told her that Walker wanted her to call him; and (3) after she hung up from talking to Taylor, Mangum called Walker."

As far as Milton Walker goes, I have never met him, seen him, or communicated with him. And I have no intention of doing so in the future."

Which means you really do not know why Crystal called Milton Walker or what exactly transpired.

So far as any recording, why would it be given to you. You have no legal standing in the case.

Besides, there is the precedent of your recording of what happened at the Breyer event.You say it documents Duke discriminated against you. It documents you became belligerent when a Duke security guard directed you to leave. It also documented that Professor Coleman did not intervene on your behalf, that rather you tried to get him involved in the incident.; April 22, 2018 at 2:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Could it be that Brian Taylor and Milton Walker conspired? Brian Taylor first called Milton and told him to tell Crystal that he had been threatened by Officer Bond if he did not give false testimony? Then Brian told Crystal to call Milton?

If Milton Walker was threatened, if he was a real friend of Crystal, why did he not stand up to the threats? Moez Elmostafa was threatened with prosecution if he did not change his statement supporting Reade Seligmann's alibi, and he won. Why did Milton Walker cave in if he really was a friend of Crystal?; April 22, 2018 at 4:42 AM
A Lawyer said...: I don't think it would be advisable for me to contact Milton Walker and try to get an affidavit... because I would be accused of trying to manipulate a witness. And, there is no guarantee that he would be willing to give an affidavit. As it is now, Mr. Walker has made statements in a phone call that he initiated and spoken to Ms. Mangum in a spontaneous and unscripted phone conversation... one that is already recorded. Those statements should be more credible than the hesitant, disjointed testimony Walker gave at trial while under duress.

Sworn testimony trumps out-of-court unsworn statements.; April 22, 2018 at 12:12 PM
Anonymous said...: It would be perfectly acceptable for you or an investigator to contact Milton Walker - the fact you refuse to do so is telling. His phone conversation isn't sworn - you need to talk to him, and if he confirms the conversation, you are on solid ground, if he denies it, you use the recording to discredit him.

Once again, the fact that it's been explained to you how to pursue this, and you refuse to do so, is a huge problem for you.

You clearly aren't serious about helping Crystal.; April 22, 2018 at 12:45 PM
A Lawyer said...: Milton Walker is hardly a peripheral witness. He was used as a 404(b) to suggest a pattern of behavior by Mangum. He is the only witness to put the knife in Mangum's hand in the 2010 incident.

Exactly what I mean by "peripheral"-- he was not a witness to the killing of Reginald Daye, or to anything about that event. He testified only about a prior incident.; April 22, 2018 at 4:28 PM
Anonymous said...: "In the past, Crystal had been criticized for her poor selection in men... "

I'm pretty issue is the men with poor selection, Sid.

Don't get yourself included in this group....; April 23, 2018 at 10:37 AM
Anonymous said...: This MAR is going to go nowhere because Sid won't do what he needs - which is talk to Milton himself, or get an investigator to do it. In addition, sending something to Durham to ask the women's prison to preserve something doesn't work. He needs to send a letter to them. He won't, the call will get deleted, and Sid will use that as part of his conspiracy, when he's been told all he has to do is send them a letter.; April 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney we are still waiting to be flabbergasted.; April 24, 2018 at 4:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny and Sidney too initmidated to post?

Not surprising.; April 24, 2018 at 7:21 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

I regret that the time has come for me to take a much more active role in policing comments on this blog site. Regrets are not only because I do not believe in censorship, but because policing the site takes time and energy I would rather utilize working for Crystal's release and justice.

Like others, I enjoy poetry, and even lyrics, which could be described as musical poetry. However, when they are used without obvious purpose, they take up space to the detriment of serious conversation. There have been comments, which are nothing more than lewd and crass with no purpose other than to be objectionable and distasteful to a reasonable person seeking enlightenment or wishing to consider the opinions of others. Because these disgusting and silly comments seem to have risen in numbers with recent advances, I believe, in arguments favorable to Crystal Mangum, I will begin to expand the kenhyderal Doctrine to include them... widening the scope of comments subject to deletion.

I will begin deletions with the comment of April 21, 2018 at 7:52 p.m., and will try to do my weeding daily or no longer than a two day lapse.

Apologies for not acting on this sooner. My bad. Hope that it is not too late for some commenters and visitors to this site.; April 24, 2018 at 7:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: A Lawyer said...
I don't think it would be advisable for me to contact Milton Walker and try to get an affidavit... because I would be accused of trying to manipulate a witness. And, there is no guarantee that he would be willing to give an affidavit. As it is now, Mr. Walker has made statements in a phone call that he initiated and spoken to Ms. Mangum in a spontaneous and unscripted phone conversation... one that is already recorded. Those statements should be more credible than the hesitant, disjointed testimony Walker gave at trial while under duress.

Sworn testimony trumps out-of-court unsworn statements.

April 22, 2018 at 12:12 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

The main difference between Walker's sworn testimony under oath at trial and his statements on the phone to Mangum is that the latter conversation was not scripted, was not coerced, was not solicited, and was voluntary. At trial, it was clear that Walker did not want to testify and that he was doing so under duress.

So though your observation may be correct in most circumstances, this is not one of them.; April 24, 2018 at 7:37 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Milton Walker is hardly a peripheral witness. He was used as a 404(b) to suggest a pattern of behavior by Mangum. He is the only witness to put the knife in Mangum's hand in the 2010 incident.

Exactly what I mean by "peripheral"-- he was not a witness to the killing of Reginald Daye, or to anything about that event. He testified only about a prior incident.

April 22, 2018 at 4:28 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

Thanks for the clarification. I am in agreement with your use of peripheral in using your definition.; April 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
This MAR is going to go nowhere because Sid won't do what he needs - which is talk to Milton himself, or get an investigator to do it. In addition, sending something to Durham to ask the women's prison to preserve something doesn't work. He needs to send a letter to them. He won't, the call will get deleted, and Sid will use that as part of his conspiracy, when he's been told all he has to do is send them a letter.

April 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM

Hey, Anony.

There is no need for me or an investigator to get in touch with Walker because the evidence is the phone audio-recording itself. It is that recording which will express that he was forced to give false testimony by Durham Police Officer Marianne Bond.; April 24, 2018 at 7:45 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Could it be that Brian Taylor and Milton Walker conspired? Brian Taylor first called Milton and told him to tell Crystal that he had been threatened by Officer Bond if he did not give false testimony? Then Brian told Crystal to call Milton?

If Milton Walker was threatened, if he was a real friend of Crystal, why did he not stand up to the threats? Moez Elmostafa was threatened with prosecution if he did not change his statement supporting Reade Seligmann's alibi, and he won. Why did Milton Walker cave in if he really was a friend of Crystal?

April 22, 2018 at 4:42 AM

Your theory about Taylor and Walker is possible, but far from being plausible. For it to be probable, Mangum and I would have to be in on the plot. There is no guarantee that Walker's confession of lying at trial due to threats by Bond would even be used as evidence in an MAR by Mangum. There is no phone log of Mangum calling Taylor or Walker prior to March 2018, and, I believe, that like phone calls, all incoming mail is inspected. This makes forming a conspiracy, as you suggest, difficult if not impossible.

Being an African American, I can easily understand why Walker felt threatened by a white police officer. Also, the prosecutor described Walker's mental status as being "slow." With these two considerations, it should be easier to understand why Bond was able to threaten him not only to testify, but how to testify. It was crystal clear at trial that Walker did not want to testify when he said as much to Judge Paul Ridgeway.

Consider yourself elucidated.; April 24, 2018 at 7:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"I believe that in the MAR under Statement of Facts, it is explained that the reason Mangum called Walker was as follows: (1) she received a letter from a friend Brian Taylor who asked her to give him a call; (2) the following day she called Taylor and Taylor gave her Walker's phone number and told her that Walker wanted her to call him; and (3) after she hung up from talking to Taylor, Mangum called Walker."

As far as Milton Walker goes, I have never met him, seen him, or communicated with him. And I have no intention of doing so in the future."

Which means you really do not know why Crystal called Milton Walker or what exactly transpired.

So far as any recording, why would it be given to you. You have no legal standing in the case.

Besides, there is the precedent of your recording of what happened at the Breyer event.You say it documents Duke discriminated against you. It documents you became belligerent when a Duke security guard directed you to leave. It also documented that Professor Coleman did not intervene on your behalf, that rather you tried to get him involved in the incident.

April 22, 2018 at 2:47 AM

The reason why Crystal called Milton Walker is because during her phone call to Brian Taylor he told her that Milton wanted her to call him... and he (Taylor) gave her Walker's phone number. The reason why Crystal called Brian is because she received a letter from him in which he included his phone number and asked that she call him.

As far as the audio-recording, it would be useless to Crystal in prison because she would have no means of playing it. She can, however, read a transcript. The recording should be sent to me because I am, without doubt, the one person who is in close contact with her and who is trying to help her.

The audio recording in the Duke case against me demonstrated that I acted reasonably, but passionately. (Asking a security guard to give an explanation as to why one is being told to leave the premises is not being belligerent. It was sorta like the two black men at the Starbucks. Keep in mind, the security guard did not know why he was kicking me off campus.)

If you listen carefully to the audio recording of the Duke incident, you will hear Professor Coleman tell the guard that I'm a good person, that I'm no threat, that he knows me... etc. So he is, in fact, interceding on my behalf.

Consider yourself enlightened.; April 24, 2018 at 8:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidey Harr:

"

Anonymous Anonymous said...
This MAR is going to go nowhere because Sid won't do what he needs - which is talk to Milton himself, or get an investigator to do it. In addition, sending something to Durham to ask the women's prison to preserve something doesn't work. He needs to send a letter to them. He won't, the call will get deleted, and Sid will use that as part of his conspiracy, when he's been told all he has to do is send them a letter.

April 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM

Hey, Anony.

There is no need for me or an investigator to get in touch with Walker because the evidence is the phone audio-recording itself. It is that recording which will express that he was forced to give false testimony by Durham Police Officer Marianne Bond."

Milton walker's statement is an umcorobborated allegation which is evidence of nothing. How will you reply after Officer Bond can prove she did not intimidate Milton Walker?; April 24, 2018 at 8:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Could it be that Brian Taylor and Milton Walker conspired? Brian Taylor first called Milton and told him to tell Crystal that he had been threatened by Officer Bond if he did not give false testimony? Then Brian told Crystal to call Milton?

If Milton Walker was threatened, if he was a real friend of Crystal, why did he not stand up to the threats? Moez Elmostafa was threatened with prosecution if he did not change his statement supporting Reade Seligmann's alibi, and he won. Why did Milton Walker cave in if he really was a friend of Crystal?

April 22, 2018 at 4:42 AM

"Your theory about Taylor and Walker is possible, but far from being plausible. For it to be probable, Mangum and I would have to be in on the plot."

How? It is entirely possible that Taylor and Walker could have concocted the plot without your knowledge

"There is no guarantee that Walker's confession of lying at trial due to threats by Bond would even be used as evidence in an MAR by Mangum."

Still does not rule out a plot on the part of Taylor and Walker.

"There is no phone log of Mangum calling Taylor or Walker prior to March 2018, and, I believe, that like phone calls, all incoming mail is inspected. This makes forming a conspiracy, as you suggest, difficult if not impossible."

Taylor and Walker could have concocted the plot without first informing Crystal. I believe you said Taylor called Crystal and told her to call Walker. That could have happened without Taylor and Walker telling Crystal of their plot.

"Being an African American, I can easily understand why Walker felt threatened by a white police officer."

Which is you again presuming a fact not in evidence, that Officer Bond did intimidate Milton Walker. You have to prove that. You do not prove it by alleging it.

"Also, the prosecutor described Walker's mental status as being "slow." With these two considerations, it should be easier to understand why Bond was able to threaten him not only to testify, but how to testify. It was crystal clear at trial that Walker did not want to testify when he said as much to Judge Paul Ridgeway."

Still does not establish that Officer Bond had anything to do with Milton Walker testifying the way he did. Or are you going to resort to the meaningless assertion of. What else could it have been.

"Consider yourself elucidated."

Consider yourself a delusional megalomaniac.; April 24, 2018 at 8:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"I believe that in the MAR under Statement of Facts, it is explained that the reason Mangum called Walker was as follows: (1) she received a letter from a friend Brian Taylor who asked her to give him a call; (2) the following day she called Taylor and Taylor gave her Walker's phone number and told her that Walker wanted her to call him; and (3) after she hung up from talking to Taylor, Mangum called Walker."

As far as Milton Walker goes, I have never met him, seen him, or communicated with him. And I have no intention of doing so in the future."

Which means you really do not know why Crystal called Milton Walker or what exactly transpired.

So far as any recording, why would it be given to you. You have no legal standing in the case.

Besides, there is the precedent of your recording of what happened at the Breyer event.You say it documents Duke discriminated against you. It documents you became belligerent when a Duke security guard directed you to leave. It also documented that Professor Coleman did not intervene on your behalf, that rather you tried to get him involved in the incident.

April 22, 2018 at 2:47 AM

"The reason why Crystal called Milton Walker is because during her phone call to Brian Taylor he told her that Milton wanted her to call him... and he (Taylor) gave her Walker's phone number. The reason why Crystal called Brian is because she received a letter from him in which he included his phone number and asked that she call him.

As far as the audio-recording, it would be useless to Crystal in prison because she would have no means of playing it. She can, however, read a transcript. The recording should be sent to me because I am, without doubt, the one person who is in close contact with her and who is trying to help her."

However, you have no legal standing in the case and have been enjoined from practicing law without a license. You have no entitlement to hear the recording. If you want to help her get her a competent lawyer.

"The audio recording in the Duke case against me demonstrated that I acted reasonably, but passionately. (Asking a security guard to give an explanation as to why one is being told to leave the premises is not being belligerent. It was sorta like the two black men at the Starbucks. Keep in mind, the security guard did not know why he was kicking me off campus."

Wrong. The audio recording documented that you got belligerent when you were instructed to leave Duke's campus.

"If you listen carefully to the audio recording of the Duke incident, you will hear Professor Coleman tell the guard that I'm a good person, that I'm no threat, that he knows me... etc. So he is, in fact, interceding on my behalf."

Not voluntarily. You tried to dragoon him into your mess. He obviously does not consider you a friend, contrary to the delusion you have.

"Consider yourself enlightened."

Consider yourself out of touch with reality.; April 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM
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Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

Regarding the above comment:

The only physical finding on Crystal was diffuse vaginal edema, nothing else.

Years later she comes up with a story of having been sodomized with a broom stick. Totally non credible.

So what makes you think any court will believe Crystal's story of Milton Walker will be found credible, especially when Officer Bond will deny the allegation.

Remember Crystal has the obligation to prove. She proves nothing by repeating an uncorroborated allegation.; April 25, 2018 at 3:53 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidey Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
This MAR is going to go nowhere because Sid won't do what he needs - which is talk to Milton himself, or get an investigator to do it. In addition, sending something to Durham to ask the women's prison to preserve something doesn't work. He needs to send a letter to them. He won't, the call will get deleted, and Sid will use that as part of his conspiracy, when he's been told all he has to do is send them a letter.

April 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM

Hey, Anony.

There is no need for me or an investigator to get in touch with Walker because the evidence is the phone audio-recording itself. It is that recording which will express that he was forced to give false testimony by Durham Police Officer Marianne Bond."

Milton walker's statement is an umcorobborated allegation which is evidence of nothing. How will you reply after Officer Bond can prove she did not intimidate Milton Walker?

April 24, 2018 at 8:10 AM

What is germane in Walker's phone call to Mangum is that he admitted to lying in court. This is more than plausible because he is the only one who testified that Mangum had a knife in her hand. The two other officers there testified that they did not see her with a knife.

Threats from Officer Bond are the reason he claimed that he lied on the witness stand.

The above is evidence. Whether or not he can prove it beyond doubt, I do not believe, is relevant. What evidence does show, by audio-recording, is that Walker admitted to lying at trial and his doing so under duress. Whether duress can be proven should not enter into consideration for a new trial. Allegations in the MAR are sufficient for obtaining the audio recording for review by both sides.; April 25, 2018 at 4:14 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

Regarding the above comment:

The only physical finding on Crystal was diffuse vaginal edema, nothing else.

Years later she comes up with a story of having been sodomized with a broom stick. Totally non credible.

So what makes you think any court will believe Crystal's story of Milton Walker will be found credible, especially when Officer Bond will deny the allegation.

Remember Crystal has the obligation to prove. She proves nothing by repeating an uncorroborated allegation.

April 25, 2018 at 3:53 AM

You don't know that Officer Bond will deny the allegation. Keep in mind that Officer Bond's credibility is already questioned as she committed perjury before the Grand Jury in convincing the jurors that Mangum illegally stole two cashier's checks from Daye... despite her own police report documenting that he told her that he gave the cashier's checks to Mangum.

That Walker lied about Mangum having a knife in the 2010 incident is not corroborated, and is contradicted by two other police officers involved. The phone call of March 30, 2018, merely records that Walker admitted to lying at the trial.; April 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidey Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
This MAR is going to go nowhere because Sid won't do what he needs - which is talk to Milton himself, or get an investigator to do it. In addition, sending something to Durham to ask the women's prison to preserve something doesn't work. He needs to send a letter to them. He won't, the call will get deleted, and Sid will use that as part of his conspiracy, when he's been told all he has to do is send them a letter.

April 23, 2018 at 11:28 AM

Hey, Anony.

There is no need for me or an investigator to get in touch with Walker because the evidence is the phone audio-recording itself. It is that recording which will express that he was forced to give false testimony by Durham Police Officer Marianne Bond."

Milton walker's statement is an umcorobborated allegation which is evidence of nothing. How will you reply after Officer Bond can prove she did not intimidate Milton Walker?

April 24, 2018 at 8:10 AM

What is germane in Walker's phone call to Mangum is that he admitted to lying in court. This is more than plausible because he is the only one who testified that Mangum had a knife in her hand. The two other officers there testified that they did not see her with a knife.

Threats from Officer Bond are the reason he claimed that he lied on the witness stand.

The above is evidence. Whether or not he can prove it beyond doubt, I do not believe, is relevant. What evidence does show, by audio-recording, is that Walker admitted to lying at trial and his doing so under duress. Whether duress can be proven should not enter into consideration for a new trial. Allegations in the MAR are sufficient for obtaining the audio recording for review by both sides."

No matter how you try to distort it, Milton Walker's claim, if it really happened, is an uncorroborated allegation and is evidence of nothing. Crystal has to establish the truth of the allegation.

Consider yourself enlightened and elucidated.; April 25, 2018 at 9:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"You don't know that Officer Bond will deny the allegation. Keep in mind that Officer Bond's credibility is already questioned as she committed perjury before the Grand Jury in convincing the jurors that Mangum illegally stole two cashier's checks from Daye... despite her own police report documenting that he told her that he gave the cashier's checks to Mangum."

You question Officer BOnd's credibility. That is as meaningful as Hermann saying Hitler was a great man, or Al Sharpton denying a truth, that he knew from the get go that Tawana Brawley was pulling a hoax.

No one accepts your credibility.; April 25, 2018 at 9:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Correction:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr:

"You don't know that Officer Bond will deny the allegation. Keep in mind that Officer Bond's credibility is already questioned as she committed perjury before the Grand Jury in convincing the jurors that Mangum illegally stole two cashier's checks from Daye... despite her own police report documenting that he told her that he gave the cashier's checks to Mangum."

You question Officer BOnd's credibility. That is as meaningful as Hermann Göring saying Hitler was a great man, or Al Sharpton denying a truth, that he knew from the get go that Tawana Brawley was pulling a hoax.

No one accepts your credibility.; April 25, 2018 at 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, you are again into your deusional megalomania, that someone is guilty simply because you pronounce that person so.

Your actions in the Duke Lacrosse hoax, the Shan Carter felony murder case, the Reginald Daye murder show you can't tell guilt from silt.; April 25, 2018 at 9:15 AM
Anonymous said...: An example of how Sidney views guilt or innocence, the Shan Carter case.

Shan Carter was a convicted felon, a drug dealer. He robbed the apartment of another drug dealer, one Tyrone Baker, taking a large sum of money.

Tyroen Baker did make threats against the robbers. He did try to confront Shan Carter, who at the time, by his own admission, was on the street conducting selling drugs. Shan Carter fired an illegally possessed .357 Magnum revolver at Tyrone Baker who then turned and fled. Shan Carter pursued him, continued to fire at him, bringing him down, and he died. There were bystanders on the street while Shan Carter was firing his illegally possessed hand gun. One of Shan Carter's shots hit an innocent bystander, 8 year old Demetrius Greene and killed him. Tyrone Baker was subsequently shown to be unarmed.

Sidney likes to say Shan Carter fired in self defense, and the death of Demetrius Greene was just an unfortunate accident.; April 25, 2018 at 12:37 PM
A Lawyer said...: What is germane in Walker's phone call to Mangum is that he admitted to lying in court. This is more than plausible because he is the only one who testified that Mangum had a knife in her hand. The two other officers there testified that they did not see her with a knife.

Threats from Officer Bond are the reason he claimed that he lied on the witness stand.

The above is evidence.

None of the above is evidence-- it is an out-of-court, unsworn, statement that is not admissible. Get an affidavit from Walker, and a court might-- emphasis, might-- order a hearing at which Walker and Bond will be subpoenaed to testify in court and be cross-examined. Without an affidavit, the MAR will be summarily denied. Consider yourself elucidated.; April 25, 2018 at 1:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, pay attention to the previous statement.

Who will cross examine Officer Bond/ Not you. You have been enjoined from practicing law without a license.

Crystal? That would be as effective as trying to take down an f 35 with a ground launched hand held sling shot.; April 25, 2018 at 1:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Why did you delete my post with Crystal’s quote about the broomstick? These were Crystal’s words and not mine. It seems that it is you (not Governor Cooper) who can’t handle the truth when it comes to Crystal Mangum.; April 25, 2018 at 3:23 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Why did you delete my post with Crystal’s quote about the broomstick? These were Crystal’s words and not mine. It seems that it is you (not Governor Cooper) who can’t handle the truth when it comes to Crystal Mangum.

April 25, 2018 at 3:23 PM

I gave serious consideration before deleting your comment. If I am not mistaken, it contained a quote from William Cohan's book which described medical findings. I deleted the comment because I felt that it was more salacious that informative, and I felt that it was placed because of its salaciousness. Consider it a judgment call... however, it is far off topic, as are the majority of broomstick comments.

Do you have any comments concerning the MAR... Do you believe that the court should obtain the audio-recording of the phone call? What's your opinion about its value?; April 25, 2018 at 5:58 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
What is germane in Walker's phone call to Mangum is that he admitted to lying in court. This is more than plausible because he is the only one who testified that Mangum had a knife in her hand. The two other officers there testified that they did not see her with a knife.

Threats from Officer Bond are the reason he claimed that he lied on the witness stand.

The above is evidence.

None of the above is evidence-- it is an out-of-court, unsworn, statement that is not admissible. Get an affidavit from Walker, and a court might-- emphasis, might-- order a hearing at which Walker and Bond will be subpoenaed to testify in court and be cross-examined. Without an affidavit, the MAR will be summarily denied. Consider yourself elucidated.

April 25, 2018 at 1:33 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

If you are familiar with the Darryl Howard case, which was brought on appeal in an effort to malign Mike Nifong, then you will remember that a new hearing was based on a single handwritten note by a police officer about an anonymous tip stating that the murder victims were sexually assaulted.

I hardly believe that that qualifies as evidence of more significance than the confession of lying at trial due to threats made by a police officer... one who had lied under oath before a grand jury.

Furthermore, there is more on the tape than the confession... statements that point towards motives for Officer Bond's apparent animus against Crystal.

Is it your position that the Court should not order use of the tape? After all, it is the prison system that has elected to monitor and record all phone calls.; April 25, 2018 at 6:08 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
An example of how Sidney views guilt or innocence, the Shan Carter case.

Shan Carter was a convicted felon, a drug dealer. He robbed the apartment of another drug dealer, one Tyrone Baker, taking a large sum of money.

Tyroen Baker did make threats against the robbers. He did try to confront Shan Carter, who at the time, by his own admission, was on the street conducting selling drugs. Shan Carter fired an illegally possessed .357 Magnum revolver at Tyrone Baker who then turned and fled. Shan Carter pursued him, continued to fire at him, bringing him down, and he died. There were bystanders on the street while Shan Carter was firing his illegally possessed hand gun. One of Shan Carter's shots hit an innocent bystander, 8 year old Demetrius Greene and killed him. Tyrone Baker was subsequently shown to be unarmed.

Sidney likes to say Shan Carter fired in self defense, and the death of Demetrius Greene was just an unfortunate accident.

April 25, 2018 at 12:37 PM

My focus has been on Mangum's case for the past seven years, but let me set the record straight about Shan Carter. He burglarized, not robbed, a drug dealer's apartment. When Shan did burglarize, he did not carry a weapon.

The reason he carried a gun was for self-defense... and had he not been armed when Tyrone Baker caught up to him, he would've been shot dead.; April 25, 2018 at 6:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Why did you delete my post with Crystal’s quote about the broomstick? These were Crystal’s words and not mine. It seems that it is you (not Governor Cooper) who can’t handle the truth when it comes to Crystal Mangum.

April 25, 2018 at 3:23 PM

"I gave serious consideration before deleting your comment. If I am not mistaken, it contained a quote from William Cohan's book which described medical findings. I deleted the comment because I felt that it was more salacious that informative, and I felt that it was placed because of its salaciousness. Consider it a judgment call... however, it is far off topic, as are the majority of broomstick comments."

Which means only you can not handle the truth, that Crystal did lie and continues to lie about being raped. William Cohan described medical findings which were not there. Typical for William Cohan to make allegations he could not document.

"Do you have any comments concerning the MAR... Do you believe that the court should obtain the audio-recording of the phone call? What's your opinion about its value?"

How can anyone have an pinion about something which does not exist.; April 25, 2018 at 10:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous A Lawyer said...
What is germane in Walker's phone call to Mangum is that he admitted to lying in court. This is more than plausible because he is the only one who testified that Mangum had a knife in her hand. The two other officers there testified that they did not see her with a knife.

Threats from Officer Bond are the reason he claimed that he lied on the witness stand.

The above is evidence.

None of the above is evidence-- it is an out-of-court, unsworn, statement that is not admissible. Get an affidavit from Walker, and a court might-- emphasis, might-- order a hearing at which Walker and Bond will be subpoenaed to testify in court and be cross-examined. Without an affidavit, the MAR will be summarily denied. Consider yourself elucidated.

April 25, 2018 at 1:33 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

If you are familiar with the Darryl Howard case, which was brought on appeal in an effort to malign Mike Nifong, then you will remember that a new hearing was based on a single handwritten note by a police officer about an anonymous tip stating that the murder victims were sexually assaulted.

I hardly believe that that qualifies as evidence of more significance than the confession of lying at trial due to threats made by a police officer... one who had lied under oath before a grand jury."

That you allege Officer Bond lied to a Grand Jury does not at all mean that she actually did. It is called presuming a fact not in evidence.

"Furthermore, there is more on the tape than the confession... statements that point towards motives for Officer Bond's apparent animus against Crystal."

Presuming another fact not in evidence, that Officer Bond had some kind of animus towards Crystal.

"Is it your position that the Court should not order use of the tape? After all, it is the prison system that has elected to monitor and record all phone calls."

Another case of a straw fisherman holding up a red herring. Whatever is on the tape recording does not just add up to truth. Crystal has to prove that Officer Bond did actually threaten Milton Walker. After all, it is a matter of public record that Crystal alleged she had been raped at the Lacrosse party, and that the evidence generated in the case showed she lied.

Again, your attitude is Nifongian, exclude any and all evidence which does not support your guilt presumption.; April 25, 2018 at 11:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr, again living down to expectations:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
An example of how Sidney views guilt or innocence, the Shan Carter case.

Shan Carter was a convicted felon, a drug dealer. He robbed the apartment of another drug dealer, one Tyrone Baker, taking a large sum of money.

Tyroen Baker did make threats against the robbers. He did try to confront Shan Carter, who at the time, by his own admission, was on the street conducting selling drugs. Shan Carter fired an illegally possessed .357 Magnum revolver at Tyrone Baker who then turned and fled. Shan Carter pursued him, continued to fire at him, bringing him down, and he died. There were bystanders on the street while Shan Carter was firing his illegally possessed hand gun. One of Shan Carter's shots hit an innocent bystander, 8 year old Demetrius Greene and killed him. Tyrone Baker was subsequently shown to be unarmed.

Sidney likes to say Shan Carter fired in self defense, and the death of Demetrius Greene was just an unfortunate accident.

April 25, 2018 at 12:37 PM

My focus has been on Mangum's case for the past seven years, but let me set the record straight about Shan Carter. He burglarized, not robbed, a drug dealer's apartment. When Shan did burglarize, he did not carry a weapon."

What is the difference between burglary and theft? Shan Carter took money which was not his from someone's apartment. That is theft

"The reason he carried a gun was for self-defense... and had he not been armed when Tyrone Baker caught up to him, he would've been shot dead."

The reason Shan Carter carried a gun was that Shan Carter had decided if Tyrone Baker tried to recover the money Shan Carter had stolen from him, Shan Cater would blow him away. Did it ever occur to you that Shan Carter put himself at risk of death by robbing his fellow drug dealer and then gone out on the street to sell illegal drugs?

Again you show you have no concept of what guilt is.; April 25, 2018 at 11:13 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

Did it ever occur to you, if Shan Carter had not stolen Tyrone Baker's drug profits, it Shan Carter had not gone and chased Tyrone Baker down and shot him after Tyrone Baker had fled, Demetrius Greene would have had a chance to grow up?

You have no sense of right or wrong.; April 25, 2018 at 11:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney, why do you fear having Crystal's allegation, that Milton Walker lied on the stand when he testified against her, being decided in open court?

You obviously believe Milton Walker's allegations be accepted at face value and that Crystal should be freed solely on the face value of Milton Walker's allegations.; April 25, 2018 at 11:58 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney, why do you fear having Crystal's allegation, that Milton Walker lied on the stand when he testified against her, being decided in open court?

You obviously believe Milton Walker's allegations be accepted at face value and that Crystal should be freed solely on the face value of Milton Walker's allegations.

April 25, 2018 at 11:58 PM

The fact is that Milton Walker lied on the witness stand. How else do you explain the fact that the two Durham police officers at the scene both stated that Mangum did not have a knife in her hand? Walker didn't want to testify against Mangum; that is obvious from the trial transcript. Possible reasons for him to lie against Mangum would be: (1) incentive; (2) fear... from threats; or (3) a combination of the two.

The phone conversation holds Walker's admission that he lied due to a threat or threats from Officer Bond.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; April 26, 2018 at 3:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney, why do you fear having Crystal's allegation, that Milton Walker lied on the stand when he testified against her, being decided in open court?

You obviously believe Milton Walker's allegations be accepted at face value and that Crystal should be freed solely on the face value of Milton Walker's allegations.

April 25, 2018 at 11:58 PM

The fact is that Milton Walker lied on the witness stand. How else do you explain the fact that the two Durham police officers at the scene both stated that Mangum did not have a knife in her hand? Walker didn't want to testify against Mangum; that is obvious from the trial transcript. Possible reasons for him to lie against Mangum would be: (1) incentive; (2) fear... from threats; or (3) a combination of the two.

The phone conversation holds Walker's admission that he lied due to a threat or threats from Officer Bond."

It is not a fact that Milton Walker lied on the stand. It is an uncorroborated allegation put forth by you and Crystal. The only way to determine the truth of the allegation is to have a hearing in open court in which both Milton Walker and Officer Bond appear and testify. Why are you afraid of that? Because you fear the truth, and people who fear the truth generally do so because they do not tell the truth.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

How can a deluded megalomaniac like you provide further elucidation when you have provided zero elucidation in the first place. Lies do not add up to elucidation.; April 26, 2018 at 4:14 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

from your comment of April 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM:

"That Walker lied about Mangum having a knife in the 2010 incident is not corroborated, and is contradicted by two other police officers involved."

Whatever happened in 2010 had in the Walker incident had no relevance to the Murder of Reginald Daye. Milton Walker was called to testify to establish a pattern of violent behavior on the part of Crystal. So your argument is irrelevant to whether or not Officer Bond threatened Milton Walker.

Again, why are you so opposed to establishing the truth to Milton Walker's allegation in open court? Because you fear the truth because, like Nifong and Crystal before you, you do not tell the truth.; April 26, 2018 at 4:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Again, you ignore the clear point: if you want that call preserved, a letter must be sent to the prison. The request can’t be buried in a filing that may not get reviewed for months.

You are refusing this simple step, so when the recording is deleted, you can cry conspiracy.

Consider yourself elucidated.; April 26, 2018 at 4:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Correction:

Sidney, why are you so AFRAID of a hearing in open court to determine the truth of Milton Walker's allegation?; April 26, 2018 at 4:49 AM
Anonymous said...: On April 25, 2018 at 11:58 PM Anonymous said:

"You obviously believe Milton Walker's allegations be accepted at face value . . ."

Milton Walker has made no allegations - at least not in anything that has been filed with a court, or in any form that would be admissible in a court or that could form the basis for granting any relief to Mangum. Rather, Sid claims that Mangum told him that Milton told her in a phone call that he wasn't truthful when he testified in court.

That is triple hearsay coming from an extremely unreliable source (actually two unreliable sources). The statement Walker allegedly made to Mangum was in a very informal setting and not under oath (unlike Walker's testimony in court). No one has bothered to obtain a sworn statement from Walker or make any effort to confirm what Mangum claims Walker told her and whether or not it is true. I strongly doubt that Walker would give a statement or testify in a manner consistent with the claims made in Sid's latest filing.

Sid's MAR is going nowhere. This filing is just about continuing the charade that Mangum is a victim.

As Walt has said over and over again, with friends like Sid, Mangum doesn't need enemies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; April 26, 2018 at 5:33 AM
FakeKenhyderal said...: Funny -- You delete comments that are direct quotes from CGM (since she's the topic of your post -- she's one of the freakin' labels. )

But you've left Kenny's comments about Canadian Healthcare and other bullsh!t that have nothing to do with the topic at hand or this blog in general. Where was your "judgment" then?; April 26, 2018 at 5:57 AM
Anonymous said...: I am confused. Mangum called Walker. Can she not call again and ask him to put this in writing? She is representing herself here.; April 26, 2018 at 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Just to be sure about this Sidney, Crystl's MAR is not based on new evidence but on an uncorroborated allegation.; April 26, 2018 at 4:32 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just to be sure about this Sidney, Crystl's MAR is not based on new evidence but on an uncorroborated allegation.

April 26, 2018 at 4:32 PM

Crystal's MAR is based on new audio-recorded evidence wherein Walker stated in conversation with Crystal that he lied about her at trial because he was threatened to do so by Officer Bond. That is the new evidence. Whether or not the evidence is accurate is another issue.

I refer you to the Darryl Howard case. The note that the police failed to turn over to the Defense from an unidentified source that said the two women were sexually assaulted by drug dealers seeking payment was uncorroborated evidence used to gain Howard his freedom... mainly because Mike Nifong was the prosecutor.

New evidence in Mangum's case was truly new and more directly related to problems with the fairness of her trial.; April 26, 2018 at 7:00 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am confused. Mangum called Walker. Can she not call again and ask him to put this in writing? She is representing herself here.

April 26, 2018 at 10:45 AM

She could ask him to put what he said in writing, but why bother if there's an audio-recording that provides the statement coming directly from his mouth. That would have much more veracity, I believe, than a written document.; April 26, 2018 at 7:03 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous FakeKenhyderal said...
Funny -- You delete comments that are direct quotes from CGM (since she's the topic of your post -- she's one of the freakin' labels. )

But you've left Kenny's comments about Canadian Healthcare and other bullsh!t that have nothing to do with the topic at hand or this blog in general. Where was your "judgment" then?

April 26, 2018 at 5:57 AM

FakeKenhyderal, I am tolerant of most all comments... even if not on topic, or not close to topic. However, racist, salacious, overtly profane, and cruel comments, or lyrics that take up space, are not relevant or conducive to meaningful discourse. Policing the comments is not something I wanted to do. There are some blog sites that review all comments before posting them.

Hope this answers your question.; April 26, 2018 at 7:10 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

On April 25, 2018 at 11:58 PM Anonymous said:

"You obviously believe Milton Walker's allegations be accepted at face value . . ."

Milton Walker has made no allegations - at least not in anything that has been filed with a court, or in any form that would be admissible in a court or that could form the basis for granting any relief to Mangum. Rather, Sid claims that Mangum told him that Milton told her in a phone call that he wasn't truthful when he testified in court.

That is triple hearsay coming from an extremely unreliable source (actually two unreliable sources). The statement Walker allegedly made to Mangum was in a very informal setting and not under oath (unlike Walker's testimony in court). No one has bothered to obtain a sworn statement from Walker or make any effort to confirm what Mangum claims Walker told her and whether or not it is true. I strongly doubt that Walker would give a statement or testify in a manner consistent with the claims made in Sid's latest filing.

Sid's MAR is going nowhere. This filing is just about continuing the charade that Mangum is a victim.

As Walt has said over and over again, with friends like Sid, Mangum doesn't need enemies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

April 26, 2018 at 5:33 AM

Hey, Abe.

I think that what you are forgetting is that the phone conversation was recorded. What Milton Walker said is on the audio-recording, and therefore his statements would be first-hand, and not hearsay. When, during the phone call, Crystal asked him why he lied on her at trial, Walker said something to the effect that: "Because she (Officer Bond) threatened me."

Now, Mangum's MAR is based on her recollection of the conversation she had with Walker over the phone. Naturally, the actual audio-recording would be more accurate and most likely substantiate her recollections of the call.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; April 26, 2018 at 7:17 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Correction:

Sidney, why are you so AFRAID of a hearing in open court to determine the truth of Milton Walker's allegation?

April 26, 2018 at 4:49 AM

Anony, neither I nor Crystal is afraid of a hearing in open court. It is the State that fears going to open court. Keep in mind that the NC Attorney General's Office did not even provide a response to Mangum's Objection to the Recommended ruling of the magistrate. And the A.G.'s Office has failed to respond to Mangum's Malicious Prosecution complaint filed in Civil court on January 2, 2018. The latest in that case is that the City of Durham asked for an extension of time to file (on behalf of Officer Bond) until May 21, 2018. The Durham District Attorney's Office will probably request a similar extension as the date of service by the Sheriff's Office was March 28, 2018.

If the State had a strong case, it wouldn't require (with its full staff) an extension to file a simple Response.; April 26, 2018 at 7:27 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Again, you ignore the clear point: if you want that call preserved, a letter must be sent to the prison. The request can’t be buried in a filing that may not get reviewed for months.

You are refusing this simple step, so when the recording is deleted, you can cry conspiracy.

Consider yourself elucidated.

April 26, 2018 at 4:47 AM

The existence of such a recording is clearly to Mangum's advantage. Why would Mangum or I want it deleted. Clearly that is why Mangum included a Motion to Compel that the Recording be preserved for fear that the state might try to destroy it.

The prison system or Global Tel Link is more likely to respond to the demands of a court order rather than a letter from an advocate of an inmate. My thought is that if the inmates' phone calls are recorded, they would be preserved for a significant amount of time... I would think a year at the minimum.; April 26, 2018 at 7:33 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

from your comment of April 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM:

"That Walker lied about Mangum having a knife in the 2010 incident is not corroborated, and is contradicted by two other police officers involved."

Whatever happened in 2010 had in the Walker incident had no relevance to the Murder of Reginald Daye. Milton Walker was called to testify to establish a pattern of violent behavior on the part of Crystal. So your argument is irrelevant to whether or not Officer Bond threatened Milton Walker.

Again, why are you so opposed to establishing the truth to Milton Walker's allegation in open court? Because you fear the truth because, like Nifong and Crystal before you, you do not tell the truth.

April 26, 2018 at 4:26 AM

As previously explained, Crystal and I do not fear a hearing... it is the prosecution that fears a hearing. It is the State that doesn't even want to file a Response.; April 26, 2018 at 7:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney said:

"She could ask him to put what he said in writing, but why bother if there's an audio-recording that provides the statement coming directly from his mouth. That would have much more veracity, I believe, than a written document."

Still confused. You are going to need an affidavit about this from Walker. The recording will not hold up in court. Who knows you could have called Walker to set this up. But having Mangum call Walker and get a written statement that can be used as an affidavit is the key here. An affidavit is:

"An affidavit is a type of verified statement or showing, or in other words, it contains a verification, meaning it is under oath or penalty of perjury, and this serves as evidence to its veracity and is required for court proceedings."

Sidney you should know this after all the years you have been filing lawsuits. Sure you can get the recording as backup, meaning this would show that is how you found the new evidence. But then you need Walker to get on board. Walker is going to have to go to court on this. You cannot shield him if that is what you are trying to do. Mangum is going to have to either get some legal representation in court or do it herself if this succeeds. Not sure if you can be with her in court as support of some kind. Now if you did marry, maybe that changes things.; April 26, 2018 at 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"Now, Mangum's MAR is based on her recollection of the conversation she had with Walker over the phone."

Mangum also recollected she was raped by three Duke lacrosse players, who had unprotected sex with her and ejaculated inside her anus and vagina. She also claimed she was penetrated by a broomstick that left shards of wood in her ass that had to be removed by doctors. Those turned out to be bald faced lies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; April 26, 2018 at 8:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just to be sure about this Sidney, Crystl's MAR is not based on new evidence but on an uncorroborated allegation.

April 26, 2018 at 4:32 PM

"Crystal's MAR is based on new audio-recorded evidence wherein Walker stated in conversation with Crystal that he lied about her at trial because he was threatened to do so by Officer Bond. That is the new evidence. Whether or not the evidence is accurate is another issue."

So let's have the issue resolved in open court.

"I refer you to the Darryl Howard case. The note that the police failed to turn over to the Defense from an unidentified source that said the two women were sexually assaulted by drug dealers seeking payment was uncorroborated evidence used to gain Howard his freedom... mainly because Mike Nifong was the prosecutor."

Bullshit!!! If the evidence was uncorroborated then how did it result in Darryl Howard being exonerated. Here you manifest gross hypocrisy again. In the Duke Lacrosse hoax Nifong had evidence which showed that the men he had indicted could not have raped Crystal. He concealed that evidence. Your take on that situation was, Nifong did not conceal the evidence and that the evidence was not exculpatory because it did not prove the defendants did not rape Crystal.

"New evidence in Mangum's case was truly new and more directly related to problems with the fairness of her trial."

An uncorroiborated allegation is evidence of nothing.; April 27, 2018 at 12:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am confused. Mangum called Walker. Can she not call again and ask him to put this in writing? She is representing herself here.

April 26, 2018 at 10:45 AM

"She could ask him to put what he said in writing, but why bother if there's an audio-recording that provides the statement coming directly from his mouth. That would have much more veracity, I believe, than a written document."

What you believe is irrelevant.

Why are you opposed to an open court procedure in which Milton Walker could be cross examined. He has made allegations against Officer Bond. Why should she not have the opportunity to confront him about his allegations?; April 27, 2018 at 12:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Hrr:

"
Anonymous FakeKenhyderal said...
Funny -- You delete comments that are direct quotes from CGM (since she's the topic of your post -- she's one of the freakin' labels. )

But you've left Kenny's comments about Canadian Healthcare and other bullsh!t that have nothing to do with the topic at hand or this blog in general. Where was your "judgment" then?

April 26, 2018 at 5:57 AM

FakeKenhyderal, I am tolerant of most all comments... even if not on topic, or not close to topic. However, racist, salacious, overtly profane, and cruel comments, or lyrics that take up space, are not relevant or conducive to meaningful discourse. Policing the comments is not something I wanted to do. There are some blog sites that review all comments before posting them.

Hope this answers your question."

The issue is that Crystal would make up things about her false rape allegations as time went on. She never mentioned anything about being sodomized by a broom stick in her statement to the police. Then years later she comes up with the story.

She again exposed herself as a liar and you can not stand that.; April 27, 2018 at 12:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On April 25, 2018 at 11:58 PM Anonymous said:

"You obviously believe Milton Walker's allegations be accepted at face value . . ."

Milton Walker has made no allegations - at least not in anything that has been filed with a court, or in any form that would be admissible in a court or that could form the basis for granting any relief to Mangum. Rather, Sid claims that Mangum told him that Milton told her in a phone call that he wasn't truthful when he testified in court.

That is triple hearsay coming from an extremely unreliable source (actually two unreliable sources). The statement Walker allegedly made to Mangum was in a very informal setting and not under oath (unlike Walker's testimony in court). No one has bothered to obtain a sworn statement from Walker or make any effort to confirm what Mangum claims Walker told her and whether or not it is true. I strongly doubt that Walker would give a statement or testify in a manner consistent with the claims made in Sid's latest filing.

Sid's MAR is going nowhere. This filing is just about continuing the charade that Mangum is a victim.

As Walt has said over and over again, with friends like Sid, Mangum doesn't need enemies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

April 26, 2018 at 5:33 AM"

"Hey, Abe.

I think that what you are forgetting is that the phone conversation was recorded. What Milton Walker said is on the audio-recording, and therefore his statements would be first-hand, and not hearsay. When, during the phone call, Crystal asked him why he lied on her at trial, Walker said something to the effect that: 'Because she (Officer Bond) threatened me.'"

Now it is up to Crystal to show Milton Walker told the truth. Which means there must be a hearing in open court in which Milton Walker can be cross examined and required to prove he was threatened. Simply saying he was threatened does not prove anything, just like Crystal saying she had been raped proved nothing.

"Now, Mangum's MAR is based on her recollection of the conversation she had with Walker over the phone. Naturally, the actual audio-recording would be more accurate and most likely substantiate her recollections of the call."

Still does not relieve her of the obligation to prove to the court that Milton Walker told the truth. Why would he lie is not proof of anything.

"Let me know if further elucidation is required."

Again, how can a delusional megalomaniac who has never provided elucidation on anything int he first place provide further elucidantion?; April 27, 2018 at 12:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous said...
Correction:

Sidney, why are you so AFRAID of a hearing in open court to determine the truth of Milton Walker's allegation?

April 26, 2018 at 4:49 AM

"Anony, neither I nor Crystal is afraid of a hearing in open court. It is the State that fears going to open court. Keep in mind that the NC Attorney General's Office did not even provide a response to Mangum's Objection to the Recommended ruling of the magistrate. And the A.G.'s Office has failed to respond to Mangum's Malicious Prosecution complaint filed in Civil court on January 2, 2018. The latest in that case is that the City of Durham asked for an extension of time to file (on behalf of Officer Bond) until May 21, 2018. The Durham District Attorney's Office will probably request a similar extension as the date of service by the Sheriff's Office was March 28, 2018."

You can not keep in mind that you did not have your complaint and summons served properly and the state was under no obligation to respond in such a case as has been explained to you. You thought you could get away with getting a judgment by depriving the defendants of their righ to defend themselves.

"If the State had a strong case, it wouldn't require (with its full staff) an extension to file a simple Response."

Which is a de facto admission on your part that you do not have a case, that you are afraid of an open court procedure which would show you do not have a case.; April 27, 2018 at 1:04 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

from your comment of April 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM:

"That Walker lied about Mangum having a knife in the 2010 incident is not corroborated, and is contradicted by two other police officers involved."

Whatever happened in 2010 had in the Walker incident had no relevance to the Murder of Reginald Daye. Milton Walker was called to testify to establish a pattern of violent behavior on the part of Crystal. So your argument is irrelevant to whether or not Officer Bond threatened Milton Walker.

Again, why are you so opposed to establishing the truth to Milton Walker's allegation in open court? Because you fear the truth because, like Nifong and Crystal before you, you do not tell the truth.

April 26, 2018 at 4:26 AM

As previously explained, Crystal and I do not fear a hearing... it is the prosecution that fears a hearing. It is the State that doesn't even want to file a Response."

As has been previously explained you did not serve your complaint and summons properly. You thought you could get a summary judgment by denying the defendants a defense. You are afraid of a procedure in open court.; April 27, 2018 at 1:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Abe,

Stop making salacious comments.; April 27, 2018 at 3:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Abe,

How many days are left until Crystal is released?; April 27, 2018 at 3:31 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Abe,

How many days are left until Crystal is released?

April 27, 2018 at 3:31 AM

Your inquiry left out an important word... scheduled .

If I was a betting man, I would say that Crystal will be released within two months from today, if not sooner.; April 27, 2018 at 4:35 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

from your comment of April 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM:

"That Walker lied about Mangum having a knife in the 2010 incident is not corroborated, and is contradicted by two other police officers involved."

Whatever happened in 2010 had in the Walker incident had no relevance to the Murder of Reginald Daye. Milton Walker was called to testify to establish a pattern of violent behavior on the part of Crystal. So your argument is irrelevant to whether or not Officer Bond threatened Milton Walker.

Again, why are you so opposed to establishing the truth to Milton Walker's allegation in open court? Because you fear the truth because, like Nifong and Crystal before you, you do not tell the truth.

April 26, 2018 at 4:26 AM

As previously explained, Crystal and I do not fear a hearing... it is the prosecution that fears a hearing. It is the State that doesn't even want to file a Response."

As has been previously explained you did not serve your complaint and summons properly. You thought you could get a summary judgment by denying the defendants a defense. You are afraid of a procedure in open court.

April 27, 2018 at 1:06 AM

Actually, the defendants were properly served through the U.S. Postal Service. More than sixty days (twice the deadline for a response to be filed) elapsed before the Motion for Default and Summary Judgment was filed. The State exposed its fear of engagement by nefariously conspiring with the USPS to prevent the return-to-sender packets and the return receipts from being delivered.

The Malicious Prosecution case was filed by Mangum on January 2, 2018. Yet, the defendant Bond is seeking an Extension for Time to File of May 21, 2018. The Durham D.A.'s Office will probably do the same. If the defendants in this civil case had a reasonable defense, they would have answered long ago.; April 27, 2018 at 4:46 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am confused. Mangum called Walker. Can she not call again and ask him to put this in writing? She is representing herself here.

April 26, 2018 at 10:45 AM

"She could ask him to put what he said in writing, but why bother if there's an audio-recording that provides the statement coming directly from his mouth. That would have much more veracity, I believe, than a written document."

What you believe is irrelevant.

Why are you opposed to an open court procedure in which Milton Walker could be cross examined. He has made allegations against Officer Bond. Why should she not have the opportunity to confront him about his allegations?

April 27, 2018 at 12:48 AM

For the umpteenth time, neither Crystal nor I object to an open hearing. That is the purpose of filing the MAR.; April 27, 2018 at 4:53 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid said:

"Now, Mangum's MAR is based on her recollection of the conversation she had with Walker over the phone."

Mangum also recollected she was raped by three Duke lacrosse players, who had unprotected sex with her and ejaculated inside her anus and vagina. She also claimed she was penetrated by a broomstick that left shards of wood in her ass that had to be removed by doctors. Those turned out to be bald faced lies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

April 26, 2018 at 8:32 PM

Hey, Abe.

The accuracy and veracity of Mangum's recollection of her conversation on the phone with Walker can be assessed by reviewing the audio-recording. It's as simple as that. And that is all that Mangum is requesting in her MAR... that the phone conversations be taken as evidence.; April 27, 2018 at 4:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney said:

"She could ask him to put what he said in writing, but why bother if there's an audio-recording that provides the statement coming directly from his mouth. That would have much more veracity, I believe, than a written document."

Still confused. You are going to need an affidavit about this from Walker. The recording will not hold up in court. Who knows you could have called Walker to set this up. But having Mangum call Walker and get a written statement that can be used as an affidavit is the key here. An affidavit is:

"An affidavit is a type of verified statement or showing, or in other words, it contains a verification, meaning it is under oath or penalty of perjury, and this serves as evidence to its veracity and is required for court proceedings."

Sidney you should know this after all the years you have been filing lawsuits. Sure you can get the recording as backup, meaning this would show that is how you found the new evidence. But then you need Walker to get on board. Walker is going to have to go to court on this. You cannot shield him if that is what you are trying to do. Mangum is going to have to either get some legal representation in court or do it herself if this succeeds. Not sure if you can be with her in court as support of some kind. Now if you did marry, maybe that changes things.

April 26, 2018 at 7:57 PM

Hah. Yeah, we have discussed getting married. My concern on that matter is the age difference. Naturally, I want what is best for Crystal... and so we will have to sort that out once she's released.

We seem to differ on the relative value of evidence when it comes to a recording or a written affidavit. My position would be that an audio-recording is much better than a written affidavit when it comes to the accuracy or veracity of a claim. Advantages of an audio-recording over a written document have to do with speech patterns, voice inflections, the tone of the conversation, etc. Emotions can be ascertained, as well the interaction between the two speakers on a recording... not so on a piece of paper.

I believe an audio-recording serves as a standalone piece of evidence that is impeachable. If anything, it can be used to support an affidavit... in my opinion.; April 27, 2018 at 5:08 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

from your comment of April 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM:

"That Walker lied about Mangum having a knife in the 2010 incident is not corroborated, and is contradicted by two other police officers involved."

Whatever happened in 2010 had in the Walker incident had no relevance to the Murder of Reginald Daye. Milton Walker was called to testify to establish a pattern of violent behavior on the part of Crystal. So your argument is irrelevant to whether or not Officer Bond threatened Milton Walker.

Again, why are you so opposed to establishing the truth to Milton Walker's allegation in open court? Because you fear the truth because, like Nifong and Crystal before you, you do not tell the truth.

April 26, 2018 at 4:26 AM"

"As previously explained, Crystal and I do not fear a hearing... it is the prosecution that fears a hearing. It is the State that doesn't even want to file a Response."

No, it is you who fear an open court procedure. That is obvious.

"As has been previously explained you did not serve your complaint and summons properly. You thought you could get a summary judgment by denying the defendants a defense. You are afraid of a procedure in open court.

April 27, 2018 at 1:06 AM"

If you weren't afraid of an open court procedure you would have served your complint and summons properly. Instead you served said documents improperly and then tried for a summary judgment, which says you do fear an open court process.

"Actually, the defendants were properly served through the U.S. Postal Service. More than sixty days (twice the deadline for a response to be filed) elapsed before the Motion for Default and Summary Judgment was filed. The State exposed its fear of engagement by nefariously conspiring with the USPS to prevent the return-to-sender packets and the return receipts from being delivered."

North Carolina law requires proper service be effected by a state official empowered to serve the papers. No one of the USPS is empowered as a state official to serve your papers. Again, you had your papers served improperly and then tried to push for a summary judgment so you could avoid a trial.

"The Malicious Prosecution case was filed by Mangum on January 2, 2018. Yet, the defendant Bond is seeking an Extension for Time to File of May 21, 2018. The Durham D.A.'s Office will probably do the same. If the defendants in this civil case had a reasonable defense, they would have answered long ago."

Again, you did not serve the documents properly. Just how obstinately stupid and delusional are you?; April 27, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am confused. Mangum called Walker. Can she not call again and ask him to put this in writing? She is representing herself here.

April 26, 2018 at 10:45 AM

"She could ask him to put what he said in writing, but why bother if there's an audio-recording that provides the statement coming directly from his mouth. That would have much more veracity, I believe, than a written document."

What you believe is irrelevant.

Why are you opposed to an open court procedure in which Milton Walker could be cross examined. He has made allegations against Officer Bond. Why should she not have the opportunity to confront him about his allegations?

April 27, 2018 at 12:48 AM

For the umpteenth time, neither Crystal nor I object to an open hearing. That is the purpose of filing the MAR."

So why did you serve your documents improperly and then push for a summary judgment. That says quite loudly and clearly you wanted to avoid a trial in open court.; April 27, 2018 at 5:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid said:

"Now, Mangum's MAR is based on her recollection of the conversation she had with Walker over the phone."

Mangum also recollected she was raped by three Duke lacrosse players, who had unprotected sex with her and ejaculated inside her anus and vagina. She also claimed she was penetrated by a broomstick that left shards of wood in her ass that had to be removed by doctors. Those turned out to be bald faced lies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

April 26, 2018 at 8:32 PM

Hey, Abe.

The accuracy and veracity of Mangum's recollection of her conversation on the phone with Walker can be assessed by reviewing the audio-recording. It's as simple as that. And that is all that Mangum is requesting in her MAR... that the phone conversations be taken as evidence."

How does that establish that Milton Walker told the truth? The only way to establish that is to have a hearing in open court in which both Milton Walker can testify and subject themselves to cross examination. You again show you and Crystal fear a hering in open court.; April 27, 2018 at 5:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr, again on the supposed recording of Crystal's conversation with Milton Walker:

"Hah. Yeah, we have discussed getting married. My concern on that matter is the age difference. Naturally, I want what is best for Crystal... and so we will have to sort that out once she's released."

No you don't. If you wanted the best for Crystal you would have butted out years ago. You complain about alleged inadequate representation she received at her murder trial but it is res ipsa loquitur obvious that your interference is what messed up the lawyers trying to represent her.

"We seem to differ on the relative value of evidence when it comes to a recording or a written affidavit. My position would be that an audio-recording is much better than a written affidavit when it comes to the accuracy or veracity of a claim. Advantages of an audio-recording over a written document have to do with speech patterns, voice inflections, the tone of the conversation, etc. Emotions can be ascertained, as well the interaction between the two speakers on a recording... not so on a piece of paper.

I believe an audio-recording serves as a standalone piece of evidence that is impeachable. If anything, it can be used to support an affidavit... in my opinion."

Regarding what you believe, what your position is, that is irrelevant. What is relevant is what the court believes, and the court needs to hear fom both sides in the disagreement, not just Milton Walker but also Officer Bond. And as Milton Walker is accusing her of witness intimidation, she does have a right to confront him and have him cross examined.

Your actions in this matter show rather clearly you do not want him cross examined, which shows you do not have a lot of confidence in what he said, and shown you fear an open court hearing.

COWARD COWARD COWARD!!!!; April 27, 2018 at 5:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

On the subject of witness intimidation/witness tampering, you again show what a hypocrite you are.

In the Duke Rape HOAX, Nifong tried to intimidate witnesses who gave statements undermining Crystal's allegation of rape, Kim Pittman/Roberts and Moez Elmostafa. I recall you once trying to argue that the Seligmann family paid off Moez ELmostafa to give a statement supporting Reade Seligmann's alibi. Nifong tried to intimidate members of the Lacrosse team into giving incriminating testimony against their team mates by threatening them with prosecution for aiding and abetting. You approved of Nifong's wrongful prosecution of the innocent Lacrosse players.; April 27, 2018 at 5:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Correction:

Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid said:

"Now, Mangum's MAR is based on her recollection of the conversation she had with Walker over the phone."

Mangum also recollected she was raped by three Duke lacrosse players, who had unprotected sex with her and ejaculated inside her anus and vagina. She also claimed she was penetrated by a broomstick that left shards of wood in her ass that had to be removed by doctors. Those turned out to be bald faced lies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

April 26, 2018 at 8:32 PM

Hey, Abe.

The accuracy and veracity of Mangum's recollection of her conversation on the phone with Walker can be assessed by reviewing the audio-recording. It's as simple as that. And that is all that Mangum is requesting in her MAR... that the phone conversations be taken as evidence."

How does that establish that Milton Walker told the truth? The only way to establish that is to have a hearing in open court in which both Milton Walker and Officer Bond can testify and subject themselves to cross examination. You again show you and Crystal fear a hearing in open court.

Again, why are you so adverse to having an open hearing in court?

Because you fear the truth.; April 27, 2018 at 5:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said:

"Hey, Abe.

The accuracy and veracity of Mangum's recollection of her conversation on the phone with Walker can be assessed by reviewing the audio-recording. It's as simple as that. And that is all that Mangum is requesting in her MAR... that the phone conversations be taken as evidence."

Even if Mangum's recollection of the phone call as recounted by you in your MAR is accurate, it doesn't mean a thing. It is certainly not enough to get Mangum released from prison. It may not even get her a hearing.

Although I am but a simple sausage maker (albeit the Sausage King of Chicago), even I know that if you are going to bring a motion in court based on newly discovered evidence, you better present that evidence to the court, in admissible form, and not just tell them what you think it is and where you think they can find it.

If the evidence is new testimony from a witness, you better get a sworn statement from the witness, or some other evidence in admissible form. Mangum's claim that Walker told her in a phone call that he lied and that someone lese may have a recording of the call won't cut it. Even if a tape exists of Walker saying what Mangum claims, his statement is unsworn and not admissible as evidence.

I would be curious to hear from Walt, A Lawyer or someone else with knowledge of these things.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; April 27, 2018 at 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...
"Abe,

How many days are left until Crystal is released?"

Crystal will be released in 2,863 days, unless her minimum term is further extended.

I have no plans of resuming a countdown. If someone else wants to run with it, they can. In fact, I have no plans to participate further on this shlog, except as an occasional lurker.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; April 27, 2018 at 6:30 AM
Anonymous said...: "I ended up in the bathroom," Mangum continued. "And I could hear Kim outside ... In the bathroom there's like a door before you get to the bathroom. The guy named Dan, or that calls himself Dan, closed the door. And he looked at me. He's like, 'Sweetheart, you're not leaving.' And I got this chill, like this weird feeling, like, 'Oh no, this is not good' kind of feeling. And they took me in the bathroom. And I kept hearing all these people yelling like, 'Yeah, yeah. Give it, black bitch.' And they were just yelling like different things. And I could hear people banging on stuff. It was like really loud." She said the door to the bathroom remained half open. But as soon as she was in there, the three guys "just started taking my clothes off. And next thing I know, I feel this excruciating pain in my anal area, and I started crying and telling them to stop. But they wouldn't stop. They just kept doing it. And when I got to the hospital and they took the samples, it was like my skin was coming out like from the inside in my vaginal area and my anal area. And they found, like, wooden pieces. Like, I guess they used a broomstick."

None of the records of the medical exams mentioned the discovery of wooden shards in Mangum's vagina or anus. They used a broomstick? I asked. "The broom did it," she said. She was sure. "I felt like I was gonna die," Mangum continued, "like my stomach was cramping really bad. Like I felt like I was having a baby. My stomach was hurting really bad. And the guy that was in front of me, he kept telling the other guys to stop, like he didn't want them to — he was like, 'Man, you're gonna kill her. Stop.' He was like telling him to stop. And the other guy was like, 'We're not gonna kill her. We just wanna make her feel good.' And they were laughing at me and stuff. And they were like, 'Are you in pain? Are you hurting?' And it was like, 'I thought black girls liked it like this.' And I was crying and telling them to stop, but they just kept doing it."

Read full article here:
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/advice/a6254/price-of-silence-crystal-mangum/; April 27, 2018 at 6:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You realize you won't be able to assist Mangum in any hearing, correct? You are not an attorney - she will be all by herself - you won't be allowed to sit at the table or speak on her behalf. Does she understand that? Do you?; April 27, 2018 at 12:07 PM
A Lawyer said...: I refer you to the Darryl Howard case. The note that the police failed to turn over to the Defense from an unidentified source that said the two women were sexually assaulted by drug dealers seeking payment was uncorroborated evidence used to gain Howard his freedom... mainly because Mike Nifong was the prosecutor.

That was information in the prosecution's possession, before the trial, which would have been helpful to the defense, which the prosecution was therefore required to turn over to the defense. Their failure to do so violated the Brady rule.

Apples and oranges.; April 27, 2018 at 1:33 PM
A Lawyer said...: I think that what you are forgetting is that the phone conversation was recorded. What Milton Walker said is on the audio-recording, and therefore his statements would be first-hand, and not hearsay.

An unsworn, out-of-court statement, is hearsay. Mangum's recounting of what Walker told her is double hearsay. Your recounting of what Mangum said Walker said is triple hearsay.

Get an affidavit from Walker or forget your MAR.; April 27, 2018 at 1:38 PM
FakeKenhyderal said...: A Lawyer -- I appreciate your attempts to educate Sid.

Unfortunately, like so many other attempts, these too will fail. Sid is not trying to help Crystal Mangum . He is only trying to bring attention to himself.

If I was a betting man, I would say that Sid will not get an affidavit from Walker; April 27, 2018 at 1:57 PM
A Lawyer said...: We seem to differ on the relative value of evidence when it comes to a recording or a written affidavit. My position would be that an audio-recording is much better than a written affidavit when it comes to the accuracy or veracity of a claim.

No judge cares about your position; they care about the Rules of Evidence.; April 27, 2018 at 3:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney said:

"I believe an audio-recording serves as a standalone piece of evidence that is impeachable. If anything, it can be used to support an affidavit... in my opinion."

I am still more confused. How are you going to prove it was Walker on the call with Mangum?; April 27, 2018 at 4:14 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney said:

"I believe an audio-recording serves as a standalone piece of evidence that is impeachable. If anything, it can be used to support an affidavit... in my opinion."

I am still more confused. How are you going to prove it was Walker on the call with Mangum?

April 27, 2018 at 4:14 PM

Phone records can verify the phone number Mangum called belonged to Walker. Also, the audio-recording should be able to identify his voice... samples are currently on YouTube excerpts of his testimony at Mangum's trial. That Mangum was talking to Walker should not be a disputable issue.; April 29, 2018 at 4:09 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
I refer you to the Darryl Howard case. The note that the police failed to turn over to the Defense from an unidentified source that said the two women were sexually assaulted by drug dealers seeking payment was uncorroborated evidence used to gain Howard his freedom... mainly because Mike Nifong was the prosecutor.

That was information in the prosecution's possession, before the trial, which would have been helpful to the defense, which the prosecution was therefore required to turn over to the defense. Their failure to do so violated the Brady rule.

Apples and oranges.

April 27, 2018 at 1:33 PM

I do not disagree that the comparisons made on the content of the two pieces of evidence are apples and oranges. However, the purpose of my comparison was related to the value of the content in the evidence. In the Howard case, the note comes from an unidentified person taken down in a police report. Its relevance to the murder was never established. In the Mangum case, however, the confession comes from a star prosecution witness in an unforced and unscripted phone conversation initiated by Walker.; April 29, 2018 at 4:16 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

You realize you won't be able to assist Mangum in any hearing, correct? You are not an attorney - she will be all by herself - you won't be allowed to sit at the table or speak on her behalf. Does she understand that? Do you?

April 27, 2018 at 12:07 PM

Mangum is an intelligent lady. I believe that had she represented herself at her 2013 murder trial, she would have had an excellent chance at a mistrial, and a shot for a complete acquittal. Many years later, Mangum is stronger, knows her case better, and has more confidence in herself.

As far as sitting at her table, Mangum can enter a motion to the court on that issue. At Mangum's trial, Officer Marianne Bond often sat at the prosecution table.; April 29, 2018 at 4:22 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Abe,

How many days are left until Crystal is released?"

Crystal will be released in 2,863 days, unless her minimum term is further extended.

I have no plans of resuming a countdown. If someone else wants to run with it, they can. In fact, I have no plans to participate further on this shlog, except as an occasional lurker.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

April 27, 2018 at 6:30 AM

Hah! I gotta hand it to you, Abe... you can see the handwriting on the wall. So you're going to jump ship and only visit as an occasional lurker, huh? Actually, as you probably are aware, things in Mangum's cases are just beginning to heat up.

I implore you to keep in close contact as your comments, on the revelations about to come forth, are valued contributions to this site.; April 29, 2018 at 4:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
"I believe an audio-recording serves as a standalone piece of evidence that is impeachable. If anything, it can be used to support an affidavit... in my opinion."

I am still more confused. How are you going to prove it was Walker on the call with Mangum?

April 27, 2018 at 4:14 PM

Phone records can verify the phone number Mangum called belonged to Walker. Also, the audio-recording should be able to identify his voice... samples are currently on YouTube excerpts of his testimony at Mangum's trial. That Mangum was talking to Walker should not be a disputable issue."

However whether or not Milton Walker ever told the truth can be established only in a hearing in open court, something you do not want because you fear the truth.; April 29, 2018 at 4:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

Why do you remove comments that include quotes from Crystal? Are you suggesting that the quotes are not accurate? Are you afraid to let your readers see Crystal’s words? Has Crystal disavowed her earlier statements?; April 29, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

You realize you won't be able to assist Mangum in any hearing, correct? You are not an attorney - she will be all by herself - you won't be allowed to sit at the table or speak on her behalf. Does she understand that? Do you?

April 27, 2018 at 12:07 PM"

"Mangum is an intelligent lady."

That she uses you as a resource is res ipsa loquitur that she is anything but. She is not very intelligent if she believes she can concoct a story years after the rape hoax of being sodomized with a broomstick.

"I believe that had she represented herself at her 2013 murder trial, she would have had an excellent chance at a mistrial, and a shot for a complete acquittal. Many years later, Mangum is stronger, knows her case better, and has more confidence in herself."

You delude yourself. If you believe that then then explain why you are so fearful of an open court hearing to determine the credibility of the alleged new evidence, why you expect this new alleged evidence simply be accepted at face value."

"As far as sitting at her table, Mangum can enter a motion to the court on that issue. At Mangum's trial, Officer Marianne Bond often sat at the prosecution table."

Your actions in helping Crystal draw up her suits shows you are acting as her advocate and you are enjoined from practicing law. If you sit at the table you will be told to keep your mouth shut.; April 29, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Udaman Ubes; April 29, 2018 at 5:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal or Sidney or both continue to post anonymously to create the illusion that they have support.; April 29, 2018 at 5:35 AM
Anonymous said...: Right on Dr. Harr. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril..

Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996; April 29, 2018 at 11:32 AM
Anonymous said...: And that motion would be denied. You are not a lawyer. She will all alone up there - you can’t advise her or represent her.; April 29, 2018 at 1:18 PM
Anonymous said...: And, it's not at all like the lead investigator being at the table in a prosecution, especially because the prosecutor is a lawyer, and they are allowed to be up there representing other people. You are not a lawyer, you are not.

Crystal will have to be up there all alone making all of her arguments by herself. You will scream about how unjust it is.; April 30, 2018 at 5:31 AM
Anonymous said...: It is interesting that Sid is now focusing on the testimony of Milton Walker regarding the 404(b) evidence. That is the exact issue her attorney attempted to raise on appeal and Sid persuaded Mangum to abandon it.; April 30, 2018 at 7:07 AM
A Lawyer said...: If I was a betting man, I would say that Crystal will be released within two months from today, if not sooner.
April 27, 2018 at 4:35 AM

Another prediction that won't come true. Let's all check back in on June 27 and see where Mangum is.; April 30, 2018 at 7:48 AM
Anonymous said...: It’s time for a little res ipsa loquitur.; May 1, 2018 at 3:19 AM
Anonymous said...: I want some res ipsa loquitur.; May 1, 2018 at 3:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey Sidney, did you notice NBC news had a picture of Time's persons of the year issue. It was related to Ashley Judd's suit against Harvey Weinstein. This reminded me of the fraud you tried to push, that Time intended to name Crystal as one of its Persons of the year, and your blasphemous attempt to equate Crystal with the heroines of the #MeToo Movement.; May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Sidney, did you notice NBC news had a picture of Time's persons of the year issue. It was related to Ashley Judd's suit against Harvey Weinstein. This reminded me of the fraud you tried to push, that Time intended to name Crystal as one of its Persons of the year, and your blasphemous attempt to equate Crystal with the heroines of the #MeToo Movement.

May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM

Crystal Mangum broke the silence long before the #MeToo Movement took hold. The truth is that Mangum is a pioneering heroine of the #MeToo Movement... but because of the politics surrounding her, she has been unjustly snubbed and scorned by it.

As far as the Time magazine cover, I never tried to pull a fraud. That's ridiculous. I do feel that Crystal should have been placed on the cover.; May 1, 2018 at 4:24 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is interesting that Sid is now focusing on the testimony of Milton Walker regarding the 404(b) evidence. That is the exact issue her attorney attempted to raise on appeal and Sid persuaded Mangum to abandon it.

April 30, 2018 at 7:07 AM

Partially correct, Anony. The main problem I had with the Direct Appeal filed by Petersen is that the 404(b), which was extremely weak, was the only issue brought up on Direct Appeal. I still believe that Petersen should not have included it in the Direct Appeal.

Because Milton Walker testified at trial, his phone admission of false trial testimony is new and material evidence. My position regarding Walker and Petersen's Direct Appeal are still unchanged.; May 1, 2018 at 4:34 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
And, it's not at all like the lead investigator being at the table in a prosecution, especially because the prosecutor is a lawyer, and they are allowed to be up there representing other people. You are not a lawyer, you are not.

Crystal will have to be up there all alone making all of her arguments by herself. You will scream about how unjust it is.

April 30, 2018 at 5:31 AM

Even if Crystal is forced to represent herself without help from me, she is intelligent enough to do a fantastic job on her own. She knows her case extremely well.

As far as me assisting her at trial, because of unique circumstances surrounding this case, it certainly would not hurt for her to move the court to allow my assistance at the table, despite the fact that I am not an attorney.; May 1, 2018 at 4:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Sidney, did you notice NBC news had a picture of Time's persons of the year issue. It was related to Ashley Judd's suit against Harvey Weinstein. This reminded me of the fraud you tried to push, that Time intended to name Crystal as one of its Persons of the year, and your blasphemous attempt to equate Crystal with the heroines of the #MeToo Movement.

May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM

"Crystal Mangum broke the silence long before the #MeToo Movement took hold. The truth is that Mangum is a pioneering heroine of the #MeToo Movement... but because of the politics surrounding her, she has been unjustly snubbed and scorned by it."

Falsely accusing innocent men of rape is hardly breaking the silence on sexual harassment and assault. Women making false allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment are a CAUSE of why real victims are reluctant to come forth.

"As far as the Time magazine cover, I never tried to pull a fraud. That's ridiculous. I do feel that Crystal should have been placed on the cover."

Oh Yeah?

From your comment of January 11, 2018 at 2:24 PM

"Hey, Anony... did you notice how the Time magazine cover left space between Ashley Judd and Taylor Swift? THAT SPACE WAS FOR CRYSTAL MANGUM(emphasis added)".

If you were not saying by that comment that Time intended to put Crystal on its cover then what were you saying? Time never mentioned Crystal in its article about the #MeToo movement, and you tried to make people believe Time did.

Your posterior personal camouflage is non existent.; May 1, 2018 at 4:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is interesting that Sid is now focusing on the testimony of Milton Walker regarding the 404(b) evidence. That is the exact issue her attorney attempted to raise on appeal and Sid persuaded Mangum to abandon it.

April 30, 2018 at 7:07 AM

"Partially correct, Anony. The main problem I had with the Direct Appeal filed by Petersen is that the 404(b), which was extremely weak, was the only issue brought up on Direct Appeal. I still believe that Petersen should not have included it in the Direct Appeal."

"So? You are a deluded megalomaniaccal legal ignorant who thinks his ignorance trumps the law. Why else would file so many frivolous lawsuits?

"Because Milton Walker testified at trial, his phone admission of false trial testimony is new and material evidence. My position regarding Walker and Petersen's Direct Appeal are still unchanged."

It is not evidence, just an uncorroborated allegation, a piece of testimony which must be evaluate in a hearing in open court, something you are trying to dodge, just like the way you tried to dodge a trial in those lawsuits against Officer Bond and the Durham SA's office.; May 2, 2018 at 12:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Why are you censoring the comments?; May 2, 2018 at 7:38 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

Why are you censoring the comments?

May 2, 2018 at 7:38 PM

When planting a garden, there comes a time when you must pull the weeds. I am not censoring comments, rather I am pulling weedy comments. Clearly the broomstick comments, for example, are not merely immature and silly, but are salaciously placed. Such comments detract from the seriousness of this blog site, as kenhyderal, Walt, A Lawyer, and other commenters have noted.

My reluctance to remove many comments had been due to my desire to tolerate as much freedom of expression of opinion as possible. Unfortunately, some commenters have gotten carried away and pushed the situation past the limit of civil discourse.

I hate deleting comments and I hate to be forced to more closely police this blog site, but a few commenters have regrettably forced this upon me.

Consider yourself elucidated.; May 3, 2018 at 6:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

"Why are you censoring the comments?

May 2, 2018 at 7:38 PM

When planting a garden, there comes a time when you must pull the weeds. I am not censoring comments, rather I am pulling weedy comments. Clearly the broomstick comments, for example, are not merely immature and silly, but are salaciously placed. Such comments detract from the seriousness of this blog site, as kenhyderal, Walt, A Lawyer, and other commenters have noted."

The Broomstick allegation is but another example of Crystal making up issues as she goes along to justify her actions in the Duke Rape Hoax. When then AG Cooper interviewed her in his investigation of the case, and no matter how you lie about his investigation, he did a thorough investigation, something neither Nifong nor you have ever done, he noted when Crystal was shown the contradictions in the stories she was telling, she responded with more contradictions. You delete the comments because you deny the truth.

"My reluctance to remove many comments had been due to my desire to tolerate as much freedom of expression of opinion as possible. Unfortunately, some commenters have gotten carried away and pushed the situation past the limit of civil discourse."

And you think it is civil discourse to proclaim the Lacrosse defendants guilty in the face of zero evidence a crime ever happened? In spite of your denials you hve done so on many occasions, each and every time you refer to Crystal as the "victim/accuser" in the Duke Rape case. She was the victimizer/false accuser in the Duke Rape HOAX.

"I hate deleting comments and I hate to be forced to more closely police this blog site, but a few commenters have regrettably forced this upon me."

You admit your willful disregard for the truth. in the broomstick issue, the truth is this is something Crystal has concocted years after she was outed as a false rape accuser.

"Consider yourself elucidated."

Consider yourself a pathological liar.; May 3, 2018 at 6:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
And, it's not at all like the lead investigator being at the table in a prosecution, especially because the prosecutor is a lawyer, and they are allowed to be up there representing other people. You are not a lawyer, you are not.

Crystal will have to be up there all alone making all of her arguments by herself. You will scream about how unjust it is.

April 30, 2018 at 5:31 AM

"Even if Crystal is forced to represent herself without help from me, she is intelligent enough to do a fantastic job on her own. She knows her case extremely well."

That Crystal takes advice from you is res ipsa loquitur evidence she is not very intelligent, not at all capable of making the case you want her to make.

"As far as me assisting her at trial, because of unique circumstances surrounding this case, it certainly would not hurt for her to move the court to allow my assistance at the table, despite the fact that I am not an attorney."

Neither are you any kind of effective advocate, as your long string of frivolous, non meritorious lawsuits shows.

What about your statement that Crystal would never go to trial if you had anything to say about it? Was that an example of how effective you are as an advocate for Crystal?; May 3, 2018 at 6:57 AM
A Lawyer said...: What about your statement that Crystal would never go to trial if you had anything to say about it? Was that an example of how effective you are as an advocate for Crystal?

And what about your statement that you would humiliate the State Bar?
Or your statement that Mangum would be free by March 15, 2016?
Or your countless other failed predictions?; May 3, 2018 at 12:54 PM
Doogie Howser said...: Dr. Harr,

I am a relative newcomer to your blog, but I understand your need to delete a few comments from time to time. However, I am confused by your reference to “broomstick comments.” Please explain.; May 3, 2018 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Now Bill Cosby has been convicted of sex crimes and his wife is calling the conviction mob justice, calling it a criminal conspiracy on the part of the Norristown PA DA's office and demanding an investigation. I wonder if Sidney will now take up the cause of Bill Cosby's innocence.

A number of women have come forward to accuse Bill Cosby. In the 12+ years since the Duke Rape Hoax no other women have come forward to accuse the members of the Lacrosse team of that kind of inappropriate conduct. But Sidney still proclaims them guilty of raping Crystal Mangum. He has done that each and every time he proclaims the lie that Crystal was the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, each and every time he proclaims the blasphemy that Crystal was a heroine of the #MeToo movement before #MeToo became a movement.; May 4, 2018 at 4:48 AM
Anonymous said...: What does it matter what Sidney says about the Duke lacrosse case? No one cares anymore. The case was investigated. It was proven beyond a doubt that Mangum lied about being raped. The charges were dropped, the players were exonerated and they were compensated for their ordeal, Nifong was removed from office, disbarred and imprisoned, and Mangum was disgraced and discredited. Justice has been served. It is over.

Continuing to harp on it is pointless and unproductive. You aren't going to change Sid and you look silly trying. Plus, Sid looks like a nutjob and a crank when he refers to Mangum the victim and spouts his views on the case. So, even if you could change his mind, why would you?

I don't argue with people who believe the earth is flat or that the sun rises in the West. Those are unserious positions and unworthy of debate. DITTO Mangum's rape claim. By stopping to address such ridiculous arguments you only draw attention to them.

No one listens to Sid. I suggest you do the same.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; May 4, 2018 at 6:01 AM
Anonymous said...: sidney is trying to harm a lot of good people, and his blasphemous attempt to equate Crystal to the heroines of the #MeToo movement, especially his attempt to convince people that Time Magazine intended to put Crystal on its Persons of the Year cover is too outrageous to just ignore.; May 4, 2018 at 6:33 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
sidney is trying to harm a lot of good people, and his blasphemous attempt to equate Crystal to the heroines of the #MeToo movement, especially his attempt to convince people that Time Magazine intended to put Crystal on its Persons of the Year cover is too outrageous to just ignore.

May 4, 2018 at 6:33 AM

Whether or not you want to believe it, Crystal Mangum was a part of the #MeToo Movement before it was recognized nationally. She spoke out ("broke the silence") about sexual assault against her long before Weinstein's accusers.

Though Crystal was not on the cover of TIME magazine's Person of the Year issue, she should have been.; May 4, 2018 at 6:54 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
What does it matter what Sidney says about the Duke lacrosse case? No one cares anymore. The case was investigated. It was proven beyond a doubt that Mangum lied about being raped. The charges were dropped, the players were exonerated and they were compensated for their ordeal, Nifong was removed from office, disbarred and imprisoned, and Mangum was disgraced and discredited. Justice has been served. It is over.

Continuing to harp on it is pointless and unproductive. You aren't going to change Sid and you look silly trying. Plus, Sid looks like a nutjob and a crank when he refers to Mangum the victim and spouts his views on the case. So, even if you could change his mind, why would you?

I don't argue with people who believe the earth is flat or that the sun rises in the West. Those are unserious positions and unworthy of debate. DITTO Mangum's rape claim. By stopping to address such ridiculous arguments you only draw attention to them.

No one listens to Sid. I suggest you do the same.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

May 4, 2018 at 6:01 AM

Ouch!! Abe Baby, where's the love?

To my knowledge, the state has not responded yet to Mangum's Malicious Prosecution complaint. Why do you think that is? The Durham D.A.'s Office was served by mail on January 2, 2018, and served by the Sheriff on March 28, 2018. What do you think could possibly account for its silence...? Maybe their position on the Malicious Prosecution complaint is indefensible?

Get out your crying towel, Abe... the end is near.; May 4, 2018 at 7:02 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now Bill Cosby has been convicted of sex crimes and his wife is calling the conviction mob justice, calling it a criminal conspiracy on the part of the Norristown PA DA's office and demanding an investigation. I wonder if Sidney will now take up the cause of Bill Cosby's innocence.

A number of women have come forward to accuse Bill Cosby. In the 12+ years since the Duke Rape Hoax no other women have come forward to accuse the members of the Lacrosse team of that kind of inappropriate conduct. But Sidney still proclaims them guilty of raping Crystal Mangum. He has done that each and every time he proclaims the lie that Crystal was the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, each and every time he proclaims the blasphemy that Crystal was a heroine of the #MeToo movement before #MeToo became a movement.

May 4, 2018 at 4:48 AM

Why should I come to the defense of Bill Cosby. I am inclined to believe the female accusers. Besides, he has not asked for my help. Now, I would have advocated for O.J. Simpson on the vendetta-driven trumped up armed robbery/kidnapping charge/conviction for payback in the deaths of his wife and Ron Goldman.; May 4, 2018 at 7:07 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Dr. Harr,

I am a relative newcomer to your blog, but I understand your need to delete a few comments from time to time. However, I am confused by your reference to “broomstick comments.” Please explain.

May 3, 2018 at 3:25 PM

Hey, Doogie.

The "broomstick comments" are nothing more than sophomoric salacious statements not worthy of your time and attention.

I recommend that you instead focus on the current topic of the Malicious Prosecution complaint filed by Mangum.; May 4, 2018 at 7:11 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
What about your statement that Crystal would never go to trial if you had anything to say about it? Was that an example of how effective you are as an advocate for Crystal?

And what about your statement that you would humiliate the State Bar?
Or your statement that Mangum would be free by March 15, 2016?
Or your countless other failed predictions?

May 3, 2018 at 12:54 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

My prior statements and predictions were made on the mistaken assumption that I was dealing with reasonable adult individuals that possessed a modicum of decency and sense of justice. Naturally, I was proven wrong on my assumptions.; May 4, 2018 at 7:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
sidney is trying to harm a lot of good people, and his blasphemous attempt to equate Crystal to the heroines of the #MeToo movement, especially his attempt to convince people that Time Magazine intended to put Crystal on its Persons of the Year cover is too outrageous to just ignore.

May 4, 2018 at 6:33 AM

Whether or not you want to believe it, Crystal Mangum was a part of the #MeToo Movement before it was recognized nationally. She spoke out ("broke the silence") about sexual assault against her long before Weinstein's accusers.

Though Crystal was not on the cover of TIME magazine's Person of the Year issue, she should have been."

BULLSHIT!!!!

Crystal was a victimizer, not only of the innocent men she accused but also of real victims of sexual harassment and sexual assault. One reason why real victimized women do nor come forth is that false rape accusers like Crystal undermine their credibility.; May 4, 2018 at 7:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:Anonymous Anonymous said...
What does it matter what Sidney says about the Duke lacrosse case? No one cares anymore. The case was investigated. It was proven beyond a doubt that Mangum lied about being raped. The charges were dropped, the players were exonerated and they were compensated for their ordeal, Nifong was removed from office, disbarred and imprisoned, and Mangum was disgraced and discredited. Justice has been served. It is over.

Continuing to harp on it is pointless and unproductive. You aren't going to change Sid and you look silly trying. Plus, Sid looks like a nutjob and a crank when he refers to Mangum the victim and spouts his views on the case. So, even if you could change his mind, why would you?

I don't argue with people who believe the earth is flat or that the sun rises in the West. Those are unserious positions and unworthy of debate. DITTO Mangum's rape claim. By stopping to address such ridiculous arguments you only draw attention to them.

No one listens to Sid. I suggest you do the same.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

May 4, 2018 at 6:01 AM

Ouch!! Abe Baby, where's the love?

To my knowledge, the state has not responded yet to Mangum's Malicious Prosecution complaint. Why do you think that is? The Durham D.A.'s Office was served by mail on January 2, 2018, and served by the Sheriff on March 28, 2018. What do you think could possibly account for its silence...? Maybe their position on the Malicious Prosecution complaint is indefensible?

Get out your crying towel, Abe... the end is near.

How many times have we heard that?

You did not serve the DAs office properly in January of 2018 as has been explained to you, and if the DA's office has 60 days to respond they have about 4 weeks to do so.

If your case was so strong you would not have tried your initial maneuver, improper service following a motion for default and summary judgment.; May 4, 2018 at 8:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now Bill Cosby has been convicted of sex crimes and his wife is calling the conviction mob justice, calling it a criminal conspiracy on the part of the Norristown PA DA's office and demanding an investigation. I wonder if Sidney will now take up the cause of Bill Cosby's innocence.

A number of women have come forward to accuse Bill Cosby. In the 12+ years since the Duke Rape Hoax no other women have come forward to accuse the members of the Lacrosse team of that kind of inappropriate conduct. But Sidney still proclaims them guilty of raping Crystal Mangum. He has done that each and every time he proclaims the lie that Crystal was the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, each and every time he proclaims the blasphemy that Crystal was a heroine of the #MeToo movement before #MeToo became a movement.

May 4, 2018 at 4:48 AM

Why should I come to the defense of Bill Cosby. I am inclined to believe the female accusers. Besides, he has not asked for my help. Now, I would have advocated for O.J. Simpson on the vendetta-driven trumped up armed robbery/kidnapping charge/conviction for payback in the deaths of his wife and Ron Goldman."

If you really were inclined to believe real female victims you wouldnot be pushing false rape accuser Crystal as the equivalant of a real victim.

You are ducking and dodging the issue that no other women have come forward to accuse the Lacrosse players of the acts of which you accuse them.

Besides, between Crystal and Shan Carter you have shown a tendency of trying o get people of a certain ethnicity passes for their crimes.; May 4, 2018 at 8:06 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Dr. Harr,

I am a relative newcomer to your blog, but I understand your need to delete a few comments from time to time. However, I am confused by your reference to “broomstick comments.” Please explain.

May 3, 2018 at 3:25 PM

Hey, Doogie.

The "broomstick comments" are nothing more than sophomoric salacious statements not worthy of your time and attention."

The Broomstick comments were made by Crystal herself and show how Crystal makes up things as she goes along to bolster her false allegations of rape against the Innocent falsely accuse Lacrosse players, the truth of which is something you want to conceal.

"I recommend that you instead focus on the current topic of the Malicious Prosecution complaint filed by Mangum."

Which is actually your complaint, and you have not made a case for malicious prosecution. If you had you would not have used your improper attempt at service to get a judgment by denying the defendants their right to defend themselves.; May 4, 2018 at 8:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous A Lawyer said...
What about your statement that Crystal would never go to trial if you had anything to say about it? Was that an example of how effective you are as an advocate for Crystal?

And what about your statement that you would humiliate the State Bar?
Or your statement that Mangum would be free by March 15, 2016?
Or your countless other failed predictions?

May 3, 2018 at 12:54 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

My prior statements and predictions were made on the mistaken assumption that I was dealing with reasonable adult individuals that possessed a modicum of decency and sense of justice. Naturally, I was proven wrong on my assumptions."

Your previous statements were made on your delusional belief that you were a brilliant advocate who could force your biased view of the law on anyone, and now you are refusing to admit how impotent and ineffective as an advocate you are.; May 4, 2018 at 8:14 AM
Doogie Howser said...: Dr. Harr,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. The poster at 8:11 claims that the broomstick comments were made by Crystal. Is this true?; May 5, 2018 at 4:58 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Dr. Harr,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. The poster at 8:11 claims that the broomstick comments were made by Crystal. Is this true?

May 5, 2018 at 4:58 AM

Hey, Doogie.

I'm not sure about the author of those statements. The fact is that I consider it irrelevant if a comment is made that is salacious, cruel, and without purpose.

I attempt to respond to most serious comments, especially the ones who identify themselves other than by anonymous.; May 5, 2018 at 5:12 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now Bill Cosby has been convicted of sex crimes and his wife is calling the conviction mob justice, calling it a criminal conspiracy on the part of the Norristown PA DA's office and demanding an investigation. I wonder if Sidney will now take up the cause of Bill Cosby's innocence.

A number of women have come forward to accuse Bill Cosby. In the 12+ years since the Duke Rape Hoax no other women have come forward to accuse the members of the Lacrosse team of that kind of inappropriate conduct. But Sidney still proclaims them guilty of raping Crystal Mangum. He has done that each and every time he proclaims the lie that Crystal was the victim/accuser in the Duke rape case, each and every time he proclaims the blasphemy that Crystal was a heroine of the #MeToo movement before #MeToo became a movement.

May 4, 2018 at 4:48 AM

Why should I come to the defense of Bill Cosby. I am inclined to believe the female accusers. Besides, he has not asked for my help. Now, I would have advocated for O.J. Simpson on the vendetta-driven trumped up armed robbery/kidnapping charge/conviction for payback in the deaths of his wife and Ron Goldman."

If you really were inclined to believe real female victims you wouldnot be pushing false rape accuser Crystal as the equivalant of a real victim.

You are ducking and dodging the issue that no other women have come forward to accuse the Lacrosse players of the acts of which you accuse them.

Besides, between Crystal and Shan Carter you have shown a tendency of trying o get people of a certain ethnicity passes for their crimes.

May 4, 2018 at 8:06 AM

Anony, what I try to do is obtain justice for people who have been unjustly treated by the criminal legal system, regardless of ethnicity. It just so happens that a larger percentage, from my observations, of individuals wrongly incarcerated and wrongly convicted are people of color... mostly African Americans. But I have advocated strongly on behalf of white individuals as well, including Alan Gell and Greg Taylor.

Consider that many wrongly incarcerated have legal representatives that appear to be attempting to help them obtain freedom. I'm not as inclined to spend my time and effort on inmates/defendants receiving legal assistance. With regards to Shan Carter, he had the initiative to reach out to me for assistance... otherwise I would have never have heard of his case. After hearing what he said, I believed that his case (against the two death penalty convictions) had merit.

Consider yourself elucidated.; May 5, 2018 at 5:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Dr. Harr,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. The poster at 8:11 claims that the broomstick comments were made by Crystal. Is this true?

May 5, 2018 at 4:58 AM

Hey, Doogie.

I'm not sure about the author of those statements. The fact is that I consider it irrelevant if a comment is made that is salacious, cruel, and without purpose."

Bullshit! what was posted on J4N was a quote from William Cohan's book in which Crystal does allege she had been sodomized with a broomstick. You are in denial of the truth, not at all unusual for you.

"I attempt to respond to most serious comments, especially the ones who identify themselves other than by anonymous."

And your responses are almost always manifestations of your delusional megalomania.; May 5, 2018 at 6:04 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

In response to a comment about convicted sex offender Bill Cosby:

"Anony, what I try to do is obtain justice for people who have been unjustly treated by the criminal legal system, regardless of ethnicity. It just so happens that a larger percentage, from my observations, of individuals wrongly incarcerated and wrongly convicted are people of color... mostly African Americans. But I have advocated strongly on behalf of white individuals as well, including Alan Gell and Greg Taylor."

More Bullshit! You proclaima gain and again that the innocent w=Caucasian members of the Duke Lacrosse team are guilty of raping Crystal Mangum, each and every time you refrer to false rape accuser Crystal as the v"victim/accuser" in the Duke rape case. Your advocacy for felony murderer Shan Carter is not exactly advocacy for someone falesely incarcerated. It is trying to buy a pass for a felony murderer.

"Consider that many wrongly incarcerated have legal representatives that appear to be attempting to help them obtain freedom. I'm not as inclined to spend my time and effort on inmates/defendants receiving legal assistance. With regards to Shan Carter, he had the initiative to reach out to me for assistance... otherwise I would have never have heard of his case. After hearing what he said, I believed that his case (against the two death penalty convictions) had merit."

You refuse to realize you his case against the death sentence he had received totally lacked merit. Another instance of you believing your opinion over rides the law.

"Consider yourself elucidated."

Again, consider yourself delusional and biased.; May 5, 2018 at 6:10 AM
Anonymous said...: cottrction:

"You refuse to realize YOUR case against the death sentence he had received totally lacked merit. Another instance of you believing your opinion over rides the law."; May 5, 2018 at 6:48 AM
Doogie Howser said...: Dr. Harr,

As you suggest, I will study the malicious prosecution complaint and provide you with my comments. However, one of the other posters continues to claim that Crystal made the broomstick comments. Could this be true?; May 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM
Anonymous said...: A poster on J4N posted a quote from William Cohan's book, Crystal alleging she had been sodomized with a broom stick and that medical personnel at DUMC ER had removed wooden splinters from her person.

From KC Johnson(whom Sidney and Kenny fear the way the devil fears the cross because KC Johnson reveals the truth), "Accuser Crystal Mangum was given the opportunity to speak, in a jailhouse interview in which she told still more tall tales (that medical staff had to pull wooden shards from her" http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/.

This is a link to Crystal's statement to the Durham police: http://johnsville.blogspot.com/2007/06/crystal-gail-mangum-april-6-2006.html. No where in that statement does Crystal say anything about a broomstick.

When AG Coopers office interviewed Crystal as part of its investigation, the interviewers noted inconsistencies in her statements, and that she would responded with more inconsistencies. Crystal had a tendency to make up things as she went along to convince people she had been raped.

Crystal never told the truth when she alleged she had been raped, something which Sicney repeatedly has denied.; May 7, 2018 at 4:29 AM
Anonymous said...: PS/ You can not read the postr's comments because Sidney the denier of truth has removed them.; May 7, 2018 at 4:30 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY,EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

This post has to do with Mangum's Motion for Appropriate Review based on new evidence related to Milton Walker's telephone conversation with Crystal Mangum in recent days.

Anonymous commenters with comments that are salacious, off topic, and crude will be deleted. I regret that I did not begin policing this blog site sooner, however, I regret, even more, that cleansing the blog site's comments is necessary.; May 7, 2018 at 8:51 AM
Anonymous said...: sidney Harr:

"HEY,EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

This post has to do with Mangum's Motion for Appropriate Review based on new evidence related to Milton Walker's telephone conversation with Crystal Mangum in recent days."

Milton Walker's alleged evidence is but an uncorroborated Allegtion

"Anonymous commenters with comments that are salacious, off topic, and crude will be deleted. I regret that I did not begin policing this blog site sooner, however, I regret, even more, that cleansing the blog site's comments is necessary."

Sidney again admits he fears the truth and wants to conceal that Crystal is a liar.; May 7, 2018 at 9:38 AM
Anonymous said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; May 7, 2018 at 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; May 7, 2018 at 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Do you think Sid has followed the advice given to him, and had Crystal send a letter to the Prison requesting that they preserve a copy of the phone call? Or, more likely, he isn't, then when the call isn't kept (because he refused to request it - as he's been told burying it in a Court filing isn't sufficient), he will scream that it's part of the Conspiracy.

Sid, have you every actually done anything to help Crystal?; May 7, 2018 at 10:08 AM
Anonymous said...: A link to a discussion about Crystal's "broomstick" comments on this very site can be found here:

https://justice4nifong.blogspot.com/2014/04/crystal-mangum-nearly-dies-in-custody.html

Apparently, these comments were not considered "salacious, off topic, and crude" in 2014. Read'em before Sid deletes 'em, people...; May 7, 2018 at 10:13 AM
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Doogie Howser said...: Dr. Harr,

What’s happening today? One of your readers appears to be having a meltdown.; May 7, 2018 at 3:35 PM
A Lawyer said...: My prior statements and predictions were made on the mistaken assumption that I was dealing with reasonable adult individuals that possessed a modicum of decency and sense of justice. Naturally, I was proven wrong on my assumptions.

Then what makes you think the result will be different this time?

The fact is that, as long as I have posted on this board, every time you have filed one of your lawsuits or motions, I have not only predicted that you would lose, but I have also correctly predicted the reason the Court would cite. That shows that your losses are due to your ignorance of the law, not to the courts' lack of decency or sense of justice.; May 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Dr. Harr,

What’s happening today? One of your readers appears to be having a meltdown.

May 7, 2018 at 3:35 PM

Hey, Doogie.

This is not an uncommon occurrence and is usually the result of mental frustration in an unsuccessful attempt to make or defend a point of view adverse to Crystal. These outbursts act as a sort of release valve,,, a catharsis, if you will.

The Malicious Prosecution is particularly problematic with Mangum detractors because they are unable to attack it.

Walt and JSwift, on the other hand, are in control of their emotions and cognitive senses. Instead of wildly venting on the issue of Malicious Prosecution, they mainly remain silent.; May 8, 2018 at 4:53 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
My prior statements and predictions were made on the mistaken assumption that I was dealing with reasonable adult individuals that possessed a modicum of decency and sense of justice. Naturally, I was proven wrong on my assumptions.

Then what makes you think the result will be different this time?

The fact is that, as long as I have posted on this board, every time you have filed one of your lawsuits or motions, I have not only predicted that you would lose, but I have also correctly predicted the reason the Court would cite. That shows that your losses are due to your ignorance of the law, not to the courts' lack of decency or sense of justice.

May 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

The reason I think things will be different with each filing is because I believe that the State will eventually come to its senses and place reason before racial vendetta. Needless to say, I've been disappointed by its stubborn position.; May 8, 2018 at 4:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"Anonymous Doogie Howser said...
Dr. Harr,

What’s happening today? One of your readers appears to be having a meltdown.

May 7, 2018 at 3:35 PM

Hey, Doogie.

This is not an uncommon occurrence and is usually the result of mental frustration in an unsuccessful attempt to make or defend a point of view adverse to Crystal. These outbursts act as a sort of release valve,,, a catharsis, if you will.

The Malicious Prosecution is particularly problematic with Mangum detractors because they are unable to attack it.

Walt and JSwift, on the other hand, are in control of their emotions and cognitive senses. Instead of wildly venting on the issue of Malicious Prosecution, they mainly remain silent."

No. Sidney can not handle the truth that Crystal lied when she alleged she had been raped. He can not handle the truth that he is an imotenr, inrffrctive delusional megalomaniac.; May 8, 2018 at 5:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous A Lawyer said...
My prior statements and predictions were made on the mistaken assumption that I was dealing with reasonable adult individuals that possessed a modicum of decency and sense of justice. Naturally, I was proven wrong on my assumptions.

Then what makes you think the result will be different this time?

The fact is that, as long as I have posted on this board, every time you have filed one of your lawsuits or motions, I have not only predicted that you would lose, but I have also correctly predicted the reason the Court would cite. That shows that your losses are due to your ignorance of the law, not to the courts' lack of decency or sense of justice.

May 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

The reason I think things will be different with each filing is because I believe that the State will eventually come to its senses and place reason before racial vendetta. Needless to say, I've been disappointed by its stubborn position."

You are the one putting racism, black on white racism, before justice, your determination to get your favorite false rape accuser/convicted murderess a passfor her crimes, because of the amount of melanin in her skin.; May 8, 2018 at 5:43 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dear Dr. Harr: It appears that these inveterate posters are completely incorrigible. That was the reason I, like so many other serious posters, stopped engaging here. I appreciate that you prioritize working for justice and that leaves you little time to exercise your prerogative as the blog administrator to edit out this obvious and all too frequent garbage which is, in no way, a serious exchange of differing opinions. I know you hate censorship but removing this stuff can in no way be characterized as censoring ideas and opinions. Reasonable discourse here has become impossible for me because of this. Especially distressing was the obvious animus,hatred and intended cruelty directed towards Crystal which possibly could even be accessible on-line to her children. It's sad how in this world how some without compunction seem to want to hurt the vulnerable; May 8, 2018 at 10:05 AM
Anonymous said...: Poor, vulnerable Kenny!; May 8, 2018 at 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenhyderal the guilt presuming black on white racist who has adopted the morals and ethics of the Scottsboro persecutors emerges:

"Dear Dr. Harr: It appears that these inveterate posters are completely incorrigible. That was the reason I, like so many other serious posters, stopped engaging here."

You a serious poster. Don't make us puke.

"I appreciate that you prioritize working for justice"

Proclaiming innocent men falsely accused of and wrongfully prosecuted for a crime which never happened guilty is not exactly working for justice.

"and that leaves you little time to exercise your prerogative as the blog administrator to edit out this obvious and all too frequent garbage which is, in no way, a serious exchange of differing opinions."

What you call garbage is the truth. Crystal lied about being raped.

"I know you hate censorship but removing this stuff can in no way be characterized as censoring ideas and opinions."

What Sidney is doing IS censoring of ideas which reveal the truth.

"Reasonable discourse here has become impossible for me because of this."

Reasonable discourse has never been possible on this blog run by a guilt presuming black on white racist who believes a black false rape accuser/murderess should get a pass for her crimes simply because of her ethnicity, especially because the innocent men she accused falsely or raping her are Caucasian(William Cohan's description, the same William Cohan who documented Crystal claimed she had been sodomized with a broomstick, approximately 8 years after she made a police statement describing the alleged rape in which she never referred to said incident.

"Especially distressing was the obvious animus,hatred and intended cruelty directed towards Crystal which possibly could even be accessible on-line to her children. It's sad how in this world how some without compunction seem to want to hurt the vulnerable"

Yet it was not criminal that a false rape accuser tried to ruin the lives of three innocent men. She caused them more harm than any harm done to her children, and the harm done to Crystal's children was perpetrated by Crystal.

You have yet to explain why you enjoy fantasizing that this woman whom you say you like and respect had been gang raped.; May 8, 2018 at 12:38 PM
A Lawyer said...: The Malicious Prosecution is particularly problematic with Mangum detractors because they are unable to attack it.

I have already explained why the malicious prosecution claim will fail--you cannot use the acquittal on the larceny charge as an end run to overturn the murder conviction. When the court dismisses the case, you will be able to compare the court's reasoning with the reasons I stated in my prior posts.; May 8, 2018 at 1:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Welcome back, Ken. It always great to hear from you.

Perhaps, you would like to weigh in on one of the current controversies on this blog. I won't offend anyone by mentioning the salacious word that causes Sid to delete posts. But, please tell us whether William Cohan quoted Crystal accurately in his book.; May 8, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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guiowen said...: Hey, Kenny, great to hear from you!
I was worried you might have had a stroke when you realized that no one here believes anything you say.
Glad to see this is not the case!; May 8, 2018 at 2:36 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Blogger kenhyderal said...
Dear Dr. Harr: It appears that these inveterate posters are completely incorrigible. That was the reason I, like so many other serious posters, stopped engaging here. I appreciate that you prioritize working for justice and that leaves you little time to exercise your prerogative as the blog administrator to edit out this obvious and all too frequent garbage which is, in no way, a serious exchange of differing opinions. I know you hate censorship but removing this stuff can in no way be characterized as censoring ideas and opinions. Reasonable discourse here has become impossible for me because of this. Especially distressing was the obvious animus,hatred and intended cruelty directed towards Crystal which possibly could even be accessible on-line to her children. It's sad how in this world how some without compunction seem to want to hurt the vulnerable

May 8, 2018 at 10:05 AM

Hey, kenhyderal.

Good to hear from you. I agree wholeheartedly with your observations.

I wish I would've started tending to the weeds in my blog site long before now... as you often requested. Despite taking more of my time, I will closely monitor comment content in the future to make this site more appealing to serious commenters who are interested in constructive dialogue.

Please let me know if you find objectionable content which I may have missed. Thanks.; May 8, 2018 at 4:57 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: A Lawyer said...
The Malicious Prosecution is particularly problematic with Mangum detractors because they are unable to attack it.

I have already explained why the malicious prosecution claim will fail--you cannot use the acquittal on the larceny charge as an end run to overturn the murder conviction. When the court dismisses the case, you will be able to compare the court's reasoning with the reasons I stated in my prior posts.

May 8, 2018 at 1:02 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

As you are aware, the essentials of a malicious prosecution necessitate that the charge in question be found by a jury to be "not guilty." The other requisites necessary for a malicious prosecution case are readily met, as well... including the lack of probable cause.

Because the elements of the charge are met, there is no reasonable way for the judge to dismiss the case.

Where I believe we have conflict has to do with whether a favorable malicious prosecution ruling on the Larceny of Chose in Action charge will automatically result in an overturning of the second-degree murder conviction. I believe it should because the sole witness before the grand jury was impeached, making her testimony on all indictments unreliable.; May 8, 2018 at 5:20 PM
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Anonymous said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; May 8, 2018 at 5:32 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sidney Harr:

"
Anonymous A Lawyer said...
My prior statements and predictions were made on the mistaken assumption that I was dealing with reasonable adult individuals that possessed a modicum of decency and sense of justice. Naturally, I was proven wrong on my assumptions.

Then what makes you think the result will be different this time?

The fact is that, as long as I have posted on this board, every time you have filed one of your lawsuits or motions, I have not only predicted that you would lose, but I have also correctly predicted the reason the Court would cite. That shows that your losses are due to your ignorance of the law, not to the courts' lack of decency or sense of justice.

May 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM

Hey, A Lawyer.

The reason I think things will be different with each filing is because I believe that the State will eventually come to its senses and place reason before racial vendetta. Needless to say, I've been disappointed by its stubborn position."

You are the one putting racism, black on white racism, before justice, your determination to get your favorite false rape accuser/convicted murderess a passfor her crimes, because of the amount of melanin in her skin.

May 8, 2018 at 5:43 AM

First, A Lawyer, I believe in justice for all individuals regardless of skin pigmentation. I was an avid advocate for Greg Taylor and Alan Gell... not to mention Mike Nifong. It just so happens that many more people of color are abused and mistreated by the legal system.

Crystal Mangum is innocent of committing a crime related to the 2011 incident involving Reginald Daye. To begin with, she was not responsible for his death... Duke University was. Crimes were committed, however by the medical examiner, Durham police officer, and other prosecution witnesses in an attempt to wrongly convict Ms. Mangum as payback for her role as accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case. At its core, I believe that the Duke Lacrosse case had racial components... that had the victim/accuser been a white female stripper, I do not believe the State or the media would have treated her with the venom and hostility with which they treated Crystal Mangum.; May 8, 2018 at 5:33 PM
Doogie Howser said...: Dr. Harr,

Would you like me to point out objectionable content that I see on your blog?; May 8, 2018 at 5:42 PM
A Lawyer said...: Where I believe we have conflict has to do with whether a favorable malicious prosecution ruling on the Larceny of Chose in Action charge will automatically result in an overturning of the second-degree murder conviction. I believe it should because the sole witness before the grand jury was impeached, making her testimony on all indictments unreliable.

You can "believe it should" all you want, but the law is otherwise.; May 8, 2018 at 8:43 PM
A Lawyer said...: First, A Lawyer, I believe in justice for all individuals regardless of skin pigmentation. I was an avid advocate for Greg Taylor and Alan Gell... not to mention Mike Nifong. It just so happens that many more people of color are abused and mistreated by the legal system.

You are not quoting me, you are quoting an Anonymous poster who first quoted me and then added his or her own comments.

I have never accused you of racism. What I accuse you of is harming people you purport to help by your legally-ignorant "lay advocacy."

You are an M.D. How would you feel about a blog where a "lay healer" advocated treating head wounds by tying a tourniquet around the patient's neck? What you do is the legal equivalent.; May 8, 2018 at 8:53 PM

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Crystal Mangum's Motion for Appropriate Relief based on new evidence

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