justice4nifong: Roy Cooper, Crystal Mangum, hidden truths and elusive justice

Sunday, August 18, 2019

Roy Cooper, Crystal Mangum, hidden truths and elusive justice

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Nifong Supporter said...: Jim Bob Walton said...
Dr. Harr,

For the past several weeks, I have been studying closely your sharlogs and the comments by the posters who follow your blog. Can you tell me why so many of the posters use the word "Supporter" in their names?

August 18, 2019 at 2:24 PM

Hey, Jim Bob.

Don't know why some commenters use "Supporter" in their aliases. I believe it's probably to show that they want to demonstrate that they favor one view or the other. For example kenhyderal Supporter would have views similar to kenhyderal. Same with Nifong Supporter Supporter.

Question for you: Do you believe that Roy Cooper's refusal to meet with me to discuss Mangum's case is due to him not wanting to discuss the truths of her innocence in Daye's death.; August 18, 2019 at 6:03 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Nifong Supporter Supporter said...

Blogger Nifong Supporter said...

Hey, Nifong double supporter.

As previously noted, Anony credits the News & Observer with the WRAL-5 News online article.

Unlike Trump, who refused to chastise the Greenville crowd yelling "Send her back," I feel compelled to say, "Let's play nice." As the great peacemaker King once said, "Can't we all get along?"

August 12, 2019 at 5:04 AM

Dr. Harr,

I'm afraid that sometimes it's just not possible to sugar coat the truth.

August 13, 2019 at 7:06 PM

Hey, Nifong Double Supporter.

I agree with you that the truth should not be sugar coated. What I hope is that commenters to this site vigorously argue their position, but that they do so whilst maintaining respect for one another. That's not to implicate your comments, which I believe have been respectful. My comment is in generalization.; August 18, 2019 at 6:12 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Why else file a lawsuit about the Duke Lacrosse case?

You could use a lawsuit to get publicity for your objective of rehabilitating Nifong's reputation. That was your primary objective prior to Mangum's arrests.

August 12, 2019 at 10:04 AM

Hey, Anony.

I don't think your premise makes much sense. First, my lawsuit was against Duke President Brodhead, Duke Law Dean Levi, and the university. How does that figure into the Duke Lacrosse case? How could such a lawsuit, having to do with an attempted arrest of me, help rehabilitate Nifong?

True, prior to Mangum's arrests, I was focused on rehabilitating Nifong, but I did not file any lawsuits until after the 2010 incident in which Duke tried to place me under arrest.

The bottom line is that I never filed a lawsuit about the Duke Lacrosse case.; August 18, 2019 at 6:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Your “sharlogs” don’t play on Apple products (Mac, iPad...)

If you want people to be aware of your views, can you post some alternative— like a blog entry that can be read? I assume you write these entries out before you create the video, anyway...Why not just type them out and post them?; August 18, 2019 at 8:15 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Your “sharlogs” don’t play on Apple products (Mac, iPad...)

If you want people to be aware of your views, can you post some alternative— like a blog entry that can be read? I assume you write these entries out before you create the video, anyway...Why not just type them out and post them?

August 18, 2019 at 8:15 PM

Hey, Anony.

Thanks. What I plan on doing as a routine is posting the shar-videos as videos which will be available on YouTube and on hand-held devices. It usually takes a while to transform from a flash movie to a video file. Should be on video early tomorrow. Sorry 'bout that.; August 18, 2019 at 8:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Let me save everyone some time.

Sid posts this same shar-log at least once per year. If you've been here any time at all, you've seen it or heard it all before.

Just look through the NUMEROUS postings (41 and counting) for "Roy Cooper"...; August 19, 2019 at 2:23 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Just want to let you know that ever since I recovered my YouTube account, which I used to upload my most recent shar-video on Monday, I have been unable to receive mail on my cellphone. The retrieval required a new password, so I think while getting the YouTube account, my gmail account was affected. I've been trying to re-establish my email account which has turned into quite an endeavor. Have been unsuccessful and I received a notice that Google no longer supports Windows 8 cellphones. Don't know what I have. Anyway, I will keep trying to get it straightened out. I haven't received any e-mails from August 20th onward.

As soon as I recover my e-mails, I will post all comments and respond. Sorry about the inconvenience. Hope to get my phone working soon.

As you were.; August 21, 2019 at 6:39 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let me save everyone some time.

Sid posts this same shar-log at least once per year. If you've been here any time at all, you've seen it or heard it all before.

Just look through the NUMEROUS postings (41 and counting) for "Roy Cooper"...

August 19, 2019 at 2:23 PM

Hey, Anony.

This shar-video is unlike others before because it goes into detail about how Roy Cooper, Attorney General Josh Stein, and Durham D.A. Satana Deberry have all ignored my attempts to present them with truths of Mangum's innocence.

Roy Cooper is largely responsible for Mangum's wrongful incarceration and I will continue to produce more shar-videos about his fear of being confronted with the truth in Mangum's case.; August 21, 2019 at 6:47 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

I post as kenhyderal supporter because, growing up in Bremerton, kenhyderal was my role model. It was obvious to my friends and me that kenhyderal was a defender of justice and was willing to fight for his principles. Although some of the posters at your website call kenhyderal the little man, I am proud to call kenhyderal my friend.; August 24, 2019 at 6:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Since there was nothing new getting posted here, I lookd back through some older posts. Whatever happened to your grievance and lawsuit filed against DA Lorrin Freeman?; August 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Since there was nothing new getting posted here, I lookd back through some older posts. Whatever happened to your grievance and lawsuit filed against DA Lorrin Freeman?

August 26, 2019 at 2:38 PM

Hey, Anony.

Several years ago, after being ignored by Roy Cooper (as both governor and attorney general), Durham District attorneys and Orange County District Attorney Jim Woodall, I tried to get an appointment to meet with Wake County D.A. Lorrin Freeman or someone on her staff to discuss evidence of Crystal Mangum's innocence. I wrote letters, went to her office and tried to get an appointment, but I was denied. Being a Wake County resident, I felt that she had more responsibility to meet with me than D.A.s from Durham and Orange Counties. Without receiving any response from the office... essentially being ignored, I filed a civil lawsuit against D.A. Freeman. In part, I alleged dereliction of duty on her behalf in ignoring me. As with most of the lawsuits that I've filed, the judge granted her Motion to Dismiss. I don't think I took it any further.

Also, as in my other lawsuits, the media (well aware of the lawsuit) did not report on it or its outcome. The media did not want the people to know anything about my lawsuit against D.A. Freeman. Unfortunately, the media has an agenda, and this blog site is the only source to find the truths about Crystal's case.

Although I will not make any predictions specifically, events are accruing in Crystal Mangum's favor. I have not been letting the grass grow under my feet. Also, am working on another Shar-video. The YouTube exposure is much greater than from my blog site alone.

I am happy to report that in Crystal's case the light at the end of the tunnel is not the headlamp of an oncoming locomotive... it's the end of the tunnel. No predictions other than to say "soon."; August 26, 2019 at 5:42 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: kenhyderal supporter said...
Dr. Harr,

I post as kenhyderal supporter because, growing up in Bremerton, kenhyderal was my role model. It was obvious to my friends and me that kenhyderal was a defender of justice and was willing to fight for his principles. Although some of the posters at your website call kenhyderal the little man, I am proud to call kenhyderal my friend.

August 24, 2019 at 6:37 AM

Hey, kenhyderal supporter.

Thanks for sharing your reasons for being a supporter. I am sure that kenhyderal is appreciative of your kind words. There is much that kenhyderal does to help Crystal Mangum of which almost everyone is unaware. He has really been a blessing to Crystal Mangum.; August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM
guiowen said...: " There is much that kenhyderal does to help Crystal Mangum of which almost everyone is unaware. He has really been a blessing to Crystal Mangum."

Oh, good! Did he get her out of jail?; August 27, 2019 at 9:29 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous guiowen said...
" There is much that kenhyderal does to help Crystal Mangum of which almost everyone is unaware. He has really been a blessing to Crystal Mangum."

Oh, good! Did he get her out of jail?

August 27, 2019 at 9:29 AM

Hey, gui, mon ami.

kenhyeral has given moral and financial support to Crystal, and has made comments in advocacy of her cause. Getting Crystal out of confinement and getting her exonerated is a mammoth challenge that requires efforts of many individuals. I certainly cannot do it alone, and must rely on assistance from others... including major contributions by kenhyderal, for which I am grateful.; August 28, 2019 at 7:38 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: Although I will not make any predictions specifically, events are accruing in Crystal Mangum's favor. I have not been letting the grass grow under my feet. Also, am working on another Shar-video. The YouTube exposure is much greater than from my blog site alone.

I am happy to report that in Crystal's case the light at the end of the tunnel is not the headlamp of an oncoming locomotive... it's the end of the tunnel. No predictions other than to say "soon."

I thought she was going to be out by the end of July?

Let's face it, your predictions have lost all credibility.; August 28, 2019 at 8:39 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Dr. Caligari said...
Although I will not make any predictions specifically, events are accruing in Crystal Mangum's favor. I have not been letting the grass grow under my feet. Also, am working on another Shar-video. The YouTube exposure is much greater than from my blog site alone.

I am happy to report that in Crystal's case the light at the end of the tunnel is not the headlamp of an oncoming locomotive... it's the end of the tunnel. No predictions other than to say "soon."

I thought she was going to be out by the end of July?

Let's face it, your predictions have lost all credibility.

August 28, 2019 at 8:39 AM

Hey, Dr. Caligari.

As I mentioned before, it was my intent to produce a shar-video to explain why I came to predictions of Mangum's imminent release. Needless to say, the reasons which I believed to be compelling and thought would lead to Mangum finally receiving justice did not come to fruition due to fear and lack of courage by individuals in position to affect positive change.

Again, the stars have aligned with individuals of integrity and courage who I feel will not be cowered by the will of the Powers-That-Be. I have no influence over the timing of events... something that is out of my control. However, the individuals involved are people of integrity and courage. Be patient and all will be revealed soon... and with the revelations will be freedom and elusive justice for Crystal.; August 28, 2019 at 12:03 PM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
So when do you expect Crystal to be released? 2025?; August 28, 2019 at 7:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Projected Release Date: 11/09/2026

From the DAC website. She will get out a bit before that as she gets some good-time behavior, but she will be released with the Department of Corrections says she has served her sentence, not when one of Sid's fantasies comes true.; August 30, 2019 at 10:12 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Projected Release Date: 11/09/2026

From the DAC website. She will get out a bit before that as she gets some good-time behavior, but she will be released with the Department of Corrections says she has served her sentence, not when one of Sid's fantasies comes true.
August 30, 2019 at 10:12 AM

Hey, Anony.

Don't bet on the DAC website's projection.

As previously mentioned, my prior predictions were based on circumstances which I believed to be favorable for Crystal to receive justice. However, I miscalculated the inherent fear of those individuals and organizations upon which I had placed my confidence... fear of Duke University... fear of Roy Cooper... and fear of the Powers-That-Be.

Currently, I have the utmost faith in the convictions and courage of those with whom I am communicating. Morally they have the integrity to do the right thing. Timing is out of my control, but I am positive the outcome will be just.

Sorry to disappoint you, but Crystal will come no where near serving out her entire sentence. Be patient and stay tuned.; August 31, 2019 at 4:54 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Sidney,
So when do you expect Crystal to be released? 2025?

August 28, 2019 at 7:01 PM

gui, mon ami, let me put it this way. I would be shocked if Crystal is still incarcerated by 2020. She might even be exonerated by then.

As I have said previously, gears have been set in motion of which neither you nor Anony nor anyone else is aware... gears that will unlock the doors and set Crystal free.; August 31, 2019 at 4:58 AM
guiowen said...: "I would be shocked if Crystal is still incarcerated by 2020. She might even be exonerated by then."
So you expect to get her out, even if she's not exonerated? I can't believe you're planning a jailbreak!; August 31, 2019 at 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid said,

" I would be shocked if Crystal is still incarcerated by 2020. She might even be exonerated by then."

Here we go again. You have 122 days to free Mangum from prison.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; August 31, 2019 at 12:10 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
"I would be shocked if Crystal is still incarcerated by 2020. She might even be exonerated by then."
So you expect to get her out, even if she's not exonerated? I can't believe you're planning a jailbreak!

August 31, 2019 at 9:57 AM

Hey, gui, mon ami.

Oui, you could say that I am planning a jailbreak. I will attack the North Carolina so-called Justice System armed with deadly brain-power, and be assisted in my assault by my accomplice Lady Justice. Facts and the truths will breach the gates of confinement, and Mangum will walk through them to freedom. Exoneration will follow sometime shortly thereafter. Biased authorities, courts, and media will be powerless to stop it.; September 1, 2019 at 4:23 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid said,

" I would be shocked if Crystal is still incarcerated by 2020. She might even be exonerated by then."

Here we go again. You have 122 days to free Mangum from prison.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

August 31, 2019 at 12:10 PM

Hey, Abe.

Drats!! I tried to phrase my comments as gingerly as possible so as to not set off the dreaded hair-triggered Froman Countdown. Alas, I was unsuccessful.

However, I believe, without doubt, that I will be successful this go-round in meeting the deadline. Abe, you are disadvantaged as being unaware of my game-plan strategy. If you knew what's going on behind the scenes, then you would understand that achieving my goal of freeing Crystal before the year-end deadline is, in essence, a shoo-in.

Certain issues regarding timing are out of my control, but will be well within the year's end.; September 1, 2019 at 4:33 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!

Just to let you know that I am currently working on a shar-video (for my blog site and YouTube); I hope that it will be ready for viewing by the end of this week. It will feature much information heretofore not presented.

I will make an effort to produce a shar-video every two to three weeks.

To All, enjoy the rest of the Labor Day weekend and stay away from Dorian.

As you were.; September 1, 2019 at 4:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

I defer to Walt, Dr. Caligari and other lawyers who read this blog, but to my knowledge there is currently no proceeding pending in any court that could possibly result in an order releasing Mangum from incarceration and/or vacating her conviction before 12/31/19 (or any other date before the completion of her sentence).

Mangum is a convicted murderer. Her appeals have been exhausted. You have launched numerous collateral attack on her conviction and they have all failed. The claims you have made in support of her innocence are not supported by the facts or law, do not stand up to scrutiny and have been quickly and uniformly rejected by the courts.

The only available avenue to obtain her release is executive clemency. For reasons previously discussed, she is not a suitable candidate for such rare and drastic action. There are many, many more people who are far more deserving of clemency than an unrepentant convicted murderer and false accuser with a previous history of dangerous and illegal behavior.

There is nothing going on behind the scenes that changes any of this.

You have 121 day to free Mangum.

Prepare to be shocked.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 120 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 2, 2019 at 4:03 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

I defer to Walt, Dr. Caligari and other lawyers who read this blog, but to my knowledge there is currently no proceeding pending in any court that could possibly result in an order releasing Mangum from incarceration and/or vacating her conviction before 12/31/19 (or any other date before the completion of her sentence).

Mangum is a convicted murderer. Her appeals have been exhausted. You have launched numerous collateral attack on her conviction and they have all failed. The claims you have made in support of her innocence are not supported by the facts or law, do not stand up to scrutiny and have been quickly and uniformly rejected by the courts.

The only available avenue to obtain her release is executive clemency. For reasons previously discussed, she is not a suitable candidate for such rare and drastic action. There are many, many more people who are far more deserving of clemency than an unrepentant convicted murderer and false accuser with a previous history of dangerous and illegal behavior.

There is nothing going on behind the scenes that changes any of this.

You have 121 day to free Mangum.

Prepare to be shocked.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

September 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM

Hey, Abe.

Keep in mind that Dr. Richard Kimble was a convicted murderer, and like Crystal Mangum, he was innocent.

Also, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes... that's why it's behind the scenes. You will find out soon enough when the curtain rises and all is revealed.

When the Day of Revelations comes, I hope that you are wearing shock absorbers and have a crying towel at hand. (I think it's going to hit you really hard.); September 2, 2019 at 5:59 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: Also, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes... that's why it's behind the scenes. You will find out soon enough when the curtain rises and all is revealed.

You've been saying that literally for years. Not only has it never happened but, after each of your deadlines has come and gone, you've never explained what it was that was supposedly going on "behind the scenes." Color me skeptical.; September 2, 2019 at 8:55 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: Keep in mind that Dr. Richard Kimble was a convicted murderer, and like Crystal Mangum, he was innocent.

Keep in mind that Dr. Kimble was a fictional character.; September 2, 2019 at 8:58 AM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "The claims you have made in support of her innocence are not supported by the facts or law, do not stand up to scrutiny and have been quickly and uniformly rejected by the courts".... On the contrary, the facts as outlined on this blog by Dr. Harr prove beyond all doubt that Crystal did not murder Reginald Daye and prove that he died due to catastrophic medical error. The State's burden to prove she murdered Daye beyond all reasonable doubt was not met. Even the most ardent and hostile Crystal hater can't, in good faith, claim there was no reasonable possibility Crystal acted in self defence. Everyone who is not in denial knows the US Justice system is horribly broken and there is not equal justice for all there.; September 2, 2019 at 9:18 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "The claims you have made in support of her innocence are not supported by the facts or law, do not stand up to scrutiny and have been quickly and uniformly rejected by the courts".... On the contrary, the facts as outlined on this blog by Dr. Harr prove beyond all doubt that Crystal did not murder Reginald Daye and prove that he died due to catastrophic medical error. The State's burden to prove she murdered Daye beyond all reasonable doubt was not met. Even the most ardent and hostile Crystal hater can't, in good faith, claim there was no reasonable possibility Crystal acted in self defence. Everyone who is not in denial knows the US Justice system is horribly broken and there is not equal justice for all there.; September 2, 2019 at 9:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 120 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 3, 2019 at 4:50 AM
guiowen said...: Here we go again:

Sidney: "I have some powerful arguments that will get CGM free within two weeks if not sooner."
Sidney: "Please, everybody, tell me the color of your favorite crying towel."
Kenny: "The evil Duke lacrosse apologists have been successful up to now, but will now suffer as the arc of justice bends in Crystal's direction."
Some time later:
Others: "So tell us Sidney how things went?"
Sidney: "I clearly failed to take into consideration the evil behavior of the justice system, and/or the way CGM's attorneys betrayed her!"
Kenny: "What can you expect from the U.S. system? This would never happen in Canada, or any other reasonable country! Reform reform! Drain this swamp!"; September 3, 2019 at 7:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 119 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 4, 2019 at 3:57 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny,

Sid's opinions are not supported by the law or the evidence, do not constitute fact and are proof of nothing.

Like so many other things in life, you misunderstand the burden of proof. The State proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Mr. Daye was killed and that Mangum's stab wound was a proximate cause of his death. To date, no admissible evidence has been produced by Sid or anyone else, that Mangum's stab would was not a proximate cause of Mr. Daye's death or that there was some sort of intervening, superseding cause that relieves Mangum of legal culpability for her role in Mr. Daye's death.

It was not up to the state, as you falsely claim, to prove "there was no reasonable possibility Crystal acted in self defense." (You are just making stuff up.) A person claiming self defense must prove that they were acting in self defense.

It was certainly possible that Mangum was acting in self defense when she stabbed Mr. Daye, but she did not prove it. She had a chance to present and prove her self defense claim, but she failed. As has been pointed out by others, she did a very bad job testifying. Her claims were contradicted by the physical evidence and the jury didn't buy it.

Justice has finally caught up with Mangum. Neither you, Sid, nor anyone else can subvert it.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 4, 2019 at 5:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 118 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 5, 2019 at 4:07 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: Dr. Harr:
I hope you are not in the path of the hurricane. Stay safe!; September 5, 2019 at 12:35 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Abe 5:40 9-5-19 Forensic Pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht disagreed with the finding of the disgraced Dr. Clay Nichols that the stab wound inflicted by Crystal in self-defence was the proximate cause of Daye's death. The real proximate cause of death was Daye's chronic alcoholism and Duke University Hospital's failure to manage the resulting complications of abruptly cutting of his alcohol intake.; September 5, 2019 at 3:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Cyril Wecht made no such findings. You are lying again.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 5, 2019 at 6:19 PM
guiowen said...: Abe,
Kenny does not lie. It's just that, because of context, he thought Cyril Wecht had actually made some of Sidney Harr's arguments.; September 5, 2019 at 9:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 117 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 6, 2019 at 4:29 AM
Kenny Supporter said...: Kenny,

You have a typo in your 3:35 comment. You stated the Nichols determined that the stab wound was "the" proximate cause of Daye's death, inadvertently suggesting that Nichols determined that the stab wound was the only proximate cause of the death. This interpretation obviously is incorrect. As you know, there can be more than one proximate cause of a death. I suggest that you correct this inaccuracy to read "a" proximate cause.

Secondly, in order to address Abe's charge that you are a liar, I suggest that you post a direct link to Wecht's report. The only reference to Wecht on this blog is to one of Dr. Harr's sharlogs (entitled Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus), which Dr. Harr unfortunately chose to make inaccessible to most readers of this blog.; September 6, 2019 at 6:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 116 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 7, 2019 at 6:39 AM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "It was certainly possible that Mangum was acting in self defense when she stabbed Mr. Daye, but she did not prove it. She had a chance to present and prove her self defense claim, but she failed. As has been pointed out by others, she did a very bad job testifying. Her claims were contradicted by the physical evidence and the jury didn't buy it. Justice has finally caught up with Mangum. Neither you, Sid, nor anyone else can subvert it"...…...If Crystal was acting in self-defence she would be not guilty of murder and as you say, it was certainly possible. If that was a possibility, then that would constitutes reasonable doubt and the jury should have found her not guilty. The prosecution, with many months to prepare selectively presented their physical evidence whereas Meier with no preparation failed to present physical evidence that supported Crystal's claim of self-defence. When you say justice has finally caught up with Crystal we know you mean payback for her accusation of gang-rape by the Duke Lacrosse Team; September 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Self defense is an affirmative defense. The defense is required to prove that the defendant acted in self-defense well beyond a mere possibility. The standard of proof varies from state to state, but is less stringent than beyond a reasonable doubt., In many states the standard is a preponderance of evidence.

Crystal failed to meet that weaker standard. For example, the blood spatter was entirely consistent with Daye's version and entirely inconsistent with Crystal's version. Your claim that it is "possible" that the blood spatter in the hall is consistent with a stabbing in the bedroom claimed by Crystal does not meet the preponderance of evidence test.

You have not yet corrected your typo from your earlier post.; September 7, 2019 at 4:35 PM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
Is there any way we can get you to stop whining? I'm willing to forgive your racism, if you'll only stop whining.; September 7, 2019 at 9:03 PM
kenhyderal said...: "the" cause "a" cause; you're playing semantics. What is critical, though, is Daye's death was not a homicide, ergo there was no murder. Nichols said it was "a" complication of the stab wound but he could not delineate what the complication was stating it was "obviously some sort of infection or some sort of other catastrophic illness" Huh? What about "the" catastrophic medical error that rendered Daye brain dead. How could he ignore that? In court he had absolutely no recollection of performing this autopsy and struggled to justify what he had mindlessly put in his notes.; September 7, 2019 at 9:14 PM
kenhyderal said...: In a fluid situation a stab wound to a clothed individual might not hit the floor in the exact spot where the penetration occurred. The angle of the wound, though, supported Crystal's version not Dayes'; September 7, 2019 at 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 115 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 8, 2019 at 7:38 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous guiowen said...
Kenhyderal,
Is there any way we can get you to stop whining? I'm willing to forgive your racism, if you'll only stop whining.

September 7, 2019 at 9:03 PM

Hey, gui, mon ami.

I don't know how you conclude that kenhyderal is a whiner. He gives facts-based opinions and arguments.

What I would like to know from you is your feelings with regards to Roy Cooper and Crystal Mangum. Do you, for example, believe that he is fair and unbiased when it comes to Crystal and my concerns about her? Do you believe that he has treated Crystal and her murder case with the same objectivity and fairness that he allegedly afforded the Duke Lacrosse defendants? I think that all of our viewers and visitors, including kenhyderal, would be interested in your opinions on these matters.; September 8, 2019 at 8:46 PM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
Quite frankly, Mike Nifong fouled everything up so much that it was impossible to believe anything he had said during 2006. The DNA evidence was such that no reasonable person could believe any of the prosecution's arguments.
As far as Crystal's murder case, the evidence is strongly against her. My own feeling is that, after the case with Milton Walker, you and your allies essentially let her feel that she could easily escape punishment. If you had only explained to her that she had dodged a bullet in the Milton case, she would probably have avoided the horrible mess with Reginald Daye.; September 8, 2019 at 9:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 114 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 9, 2019 at 4:13 AM
Kenny Supporter said...: Kenny,

I think the difference between "the" and "a" is actually more than just semantics. You and Dr. Harr have never acknowledged that under the law there can be more than one proximate cause of something and that more than one entity can have legal responsibility as a result. Unless you can acknowledge basic aspects of the law, no meaningful discussion is possible. A large part of Dr. Harr's consistent failure in his litigation is due to his habit of simply ignoring facts that he does not like. That is a terribly ineffective strategy.

When are you going to post a link to Wecht's report?; September 9, 2019 at 11:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 113 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 10, 2019 at 4:38 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Sidney,
Quite frankly, Mike Nifong fouled everything up so much that it was impossible to believe anything he had said during 2006. The DNA evidence was such that no reasonable person could believe any of the prosecution's arguments.
As far as Crystal's murder case, the evidence is strongly against her. My own feeling is that, after the case with Milton Walker, you and your allies essentially let her feel that she could easily escape punishment. If you had only explained to her that she had dodged a bullet in the Milton case, she would probably have avoided the horrible mess with Reginald Daye.

September 8, 2019 at 9:00 PM

Hey, gui, mi misguided ami.

I must disagree on the DNA in the Duke Lacrosse case. The sexual assault case didn't require DNA, as Nifong stated... it's absence did not exclude the occurrence of a sexual assault. Also, as has been documented, victim eyewitness identification is problematic... especially when there are fifty or so prospective assailants of the same age and athletic conditioning.

Regarding Milton Walker's 2010 case, Mangum did not fully trust me and I curtailed my advocacy in that case long before its conclusion. Despite the first degree arson charge being a gargantuan overreach, I feel that she was lucky to escape with a mistrial. The misdemeanor charges on which she was convicted was hogwash to help the prosecution save face for wasting state money prosecuting Mangum.

The mess with Reginald Daye was not of her making. Consider that this man is an alcoholic, who (according to Crystal) is possessive, controlling, and jealous. Intoxicated at the time of his attack which was spurred on by his perception that Crystal was flirting with the police officer.

What you fail to do, gui, is take into consideration that the autopsy report was fraudulent, that four of the State's witnesses committed material perjury, that she was indicted on charges that lacked probable cause, that the jury selected was partial against her, that the trial judge withheld the 18-page document from Crystal, that the defense expert forensic pathologist was more interested in protecting Duke University Hospital than advocating accurately and truthfully for the defendant.

So, how do you feel about Roy Cooper?; September 10, 2019 at 5:44 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Kenny Supporter said...
Kenny,

I think the difference between "the" and "a" is actually more than just semantics. You and Dr. Harr have never acknowledged that under the law there can be more than one proximate cause of something and that more than one entity can have legal responsibility as a result. Unless you can acknowledge basic aspects of the law, no meaningful discussion is possible. A large part of Dr. Harr's consistent failure in his litigation is due to his habit of simply ignoring facts that he does not like. That is a terribly ineffective strategy.

When are you going to post a link to Wecht's report?

September 9, 2019 at 11:28 AM

Hey, Kenny Supporter.

Although I don't profess to be an attorney, common sense tells me that inflicting a nonfatal wound that sends someone to the hospital, who later dies, is not a proximate cause of death. It may be considered a preceding event in a series that resulted in death, but most people who are admitted to the hospital for a nonfatal wound do not wind up brain-dead... the reason for his elective removal from life-support and his death. To put it another way, there is no nexus between the stab wound Mangum inflicted and Daye's death or brain-death.

No one wants to admit it, but Daye died because of medical malpractice with the errant esophageal intubation which was directly responsible for his brain-death. Consider that the likely outcome of an unrecognized esophageal intubation is brain-death or actual death.

Furthermore, the intubation was for treatment of Daye's delirium tremens. Surely the stab wound by Mangum cannot be blamed for that. As was previously stated, had Daye's alcoholic intoxication been successfully treated, he wouldn't have gone into delirium tremens which eventually led to his intubation.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; September 10, 2019 at 5:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Have been busy working on next shar-video. It should be completed soon. Hopefully by Thursday. It should be posted by the weekend. Have a few other irons in the fire...
so, I may not be commenting much for the next couple of days.

Nothing new so far on the legal fronts.

As you were.; September 10, 2019 at 6:01 AM
Kenny Supporter said...: Dr. Harr: Although I don't profess to be an attorney, common sense tells me that inflicting a nonfatal wound that sends someone to the hospital, who later dies, is not a proximate cause of death.

Common sense tells me that when a number of attorneys who comment on your website conclude that your opinion is incorrect and then explain why they believe your opinion is incorrect, the proper response is not to simply ignore those conclusions. Common sense tells me that the proper response is to conduct research to either confirm or disprove those conclusions. Common sense tells me that when I fail repeatedly, I should do something differently.; September 10, 2019 at 6:21 AM
guiowen said...: Sidney:
About Roy Cooper:
As far as the lacrosse players are concerned, I don't see how he could have done anything other than declare them innocent.
As far as the fact that he is not interested in talking to you: you've been complaining for 8 years now. He knows this. Nobody is paying any attention to you (except, I guess, for Kenhyderal and Crybully Tinfoil). So why should Cooper waste his time with this?
I advised you some years ago to find a young attorney who (a) believes your story, and (b) is willing to run for D.A. or even for Attorney General. Why haven't you done this?; September 10, 2019 at 2:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 112 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 11, 2019 at 3:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You have 111 days to free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; September 12, 2019 at 3:22 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous guiowen said...
Sidney:
About Roy Cooper:
As far as the lacrosse players are concerned, I don't see how he could have done anything other than declare them innocent.
As far as the fact that he is not interested in talking to you: you've been complaining for 8 years now. He knows this. Nobody is paying any attention to you (except, I guess, for Kenhyderal and Crybully Tinfoil). So why should Cooper waste his time with this?
I advised you some years ago to find a young attorney who (a) believes your story, and (b) is willing to run for D.A. or even for Attorney General. Why haven't you done this?

September 10, 2019 at 2:07 PM

Hey, gui, mon ami.

All Roy Cooper had to do, if so inclined, was drop the criminal investigation into the Duke Lacrosse case... which he did. To exclaim the defendants "innocent" was excessive and unnecessary. The reason he did it was because Brad Bannon, who was working for Joseph Cheshire at the time, discussed doing so with Assistant Attorneys General Mary Winstead and Jim Coman.

As you will note in my upcoming video, Cooper stated that Mike Nifong, as prosecutor, should have accepted evidence of innocence from defense attorneys for the Duke Lacrosse defendants. Yet, he ignores me when I try to present evidence of Crystal's innocence. See the double standard?

I've tried attorneys without success. The only attorneys Crystal has had all tried to protect Duke University Hospital and the false witnesses. A young attorney, especially with political ambitions is not going to stick his neck and career out for a black woman who is considered a lost cause... neither the media nor civil rights organizations will go to bat for her.

I am pursuing the right course, as you will soon see.; September 12, 2019 at 6:08 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Kenny Supporter said...
Dr. Harr: Although I don't profess to be an attorney, common sense tells me that inflicting a nonfatal wound that sends someone to the hospital, who later dies, is not a proximate cause of death.

Common sense tells me that when a number of attorneys who comment on your website conclude that your opinion is incorrect and then explain why they believe your opinion is incorrect, the proper response is not to simply ignore those conclusions. Common sense tells me that the proper response is to conduct research to either confirm or disprove those conclusions. Common sense tells me that when I fail repeatedly, I should do something differently.

September 10, 2019 at 6:21 AM

Hey, Kenny Supporter.

Is it your opinion, and the opinion of the lawyer commenters that the esophageal intubation had nothing to do with Daye's death... That it was not a proximate cause of death and not a direct cause of Daye's brain-death?

From an objective and scientific point of view, the stab wound had no nexus to Daye's death or brain-death. The esophageal intubation was the proximate cause of Daye's death and the direct cause of his brain-death. The direct cause of Daye's death was his elective removal from life-support. It's really that simple.; September 12, 2019 at 6:18 PM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
Could it be that all your arguments are so poor that you cannot persuade any of these young lawyers to support you?; September 12, 2019 at 7:47 PM
Kenny Supporter said...: Is it your opinion, and the opinion of the lawyer commenters that the esophageal intubation had nothing to do with Daye's death... That it was not a proximate cause of death and not a direct cause of Daye's brain-death?

This is an utterly moronic question.

Of course I believe the esophageal intubation was a proximate cause of Daye's death. Walt, Dr. Cagliari, Abe and every other commenter all believe the esophageal intubation was a proximate cause of Daye's death.

Whether the esophageal intubation was a proximate cause of Daye's death is not at issue. No informed person believes otherwise. .

The esophageal intubation and the removal of Daye from life support are BOTH proximate causes of Daye's death. There can be more than one proximate cause of death.

Duke Medical had a civil liability exposure to Daye's family from the esophageal intubation. Whether Mangum was found guilty of murder or manslaughter or acquitted of those charges does not change any civil liability faced by Duke. The "protection" to Duke you charge Mangum's attorneys with providing was limited to the lack of bad publicity of Duke's horrendous medical care. Your suggestion that Mangum's conviction absolved Duke from civil liability demonstrates either your fundamental misunderstanding of the legal question or your dishonesty.

The legal question in this case is whether the stab wound is ANOTHER proximate cause of Daye's death or whether the the esophageal intubation was an intervening cause. Only if the the esophageal intubation was an intervening cause (or there was another intervening cause) would Mangum's criminal liability be extinguished. The conclusion that the stab wound is another proximate cause of Daye's death does not mean that the esophageal intubation is no longer a proximate cause.

From an objective and scientific point of view, the stab wound had no nexus to Daye's death or brain-death.

Both Dr. Nichols (in an admittedly shoddy autopsy report) and Dr. Roberts disagree with your medical conclusion. They both concluded that there was a "nexus" to Daye's death.

Your assertion that Mangum has no responsibility for subsequent events because the initial prognosis was for a complete recovery is dishonest. As a retired physician, you know better. While certainly positive news, a prognosis for a complete recovery does not mean that the patient is no longer at risk. Complications can and do occur--even when the initial prognosis is favorable.

The legal question is whether Mangum has any legal responsibility for subsequent events. Walt provided legal precedent in the Welch case that addresses this question. He explained that case law provides that legal liability is NOT extinguished even as a result of malpractice in treating the injuries from the initial wound (or complications resulting from treatment of that wound). You simply rejected that case as precedent, and refused to provide your own case law to support your "common sense" conclusion.

Instead of an honest discussion of a valid legal question, you invent a vast conspiracy. No one can disagree with you for legitimate reasons. Drs. Nichols and Roberts invented a nexus between the stab wound and Daye's death, not because they concluded one existed, but because they conspired to protect Duke (even though Mangum's conviction does not absolve Duke from liability). All of Mangum's attorneys rejected the esophageal intubation as a defense strategy, not because they accepted a legal conclusion that the esophageal intubation does not extinguish Mangum's criminal liability, but because they conspired to protect Duke.

Common sense tells me that Mangum has not been well served by a lay advocate who fundamentally misunderstands the law and provides horrendous legal advice based on that fundamental misunderstanding. It's really that simple.; September 13, 2019 at 6:18 AM
kenhyderal said...: Applying Welch to this case is tenuous at best. You are wrong in stating that Walt and Abe and other commentators, like for example former poster Dr. Anonymous, believed their was a nexus to the stab wound, that being the finding of Nichols and with seemingly reluctant half-hearted support by Roberts; that it was "some sort of (post-operative) infection or some other catastrophic illness (related to the wound)" with no mention whatsoever of the confirmed proximate causes of death, errant esophageal intubation, cerebral and cardiac anoxia brain death and elective removal from life support. Nicholls conclusion is what those posters clung to. In Nichols unremembered autopsy these events were not reported and he doubled down on his autopsy that he seemed to have no recollection of doing.; September 13, 2019 at 9:56 AM
guiowen said...: Kenny,
"reluctant half-hearted support"? You're probably confused because of context.; September 13, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Kenny Supporter said...: Kenny,

When are you going to post the link to Wecht's report?

I understand your criticism of applying Welch, and am anxious to review the cases you believe are more applicable. A discussion of case law will be far more productive that having you simply repeat your opinion.; September 13, 2019 at 6:32 PM
Kenny Supporter said...: Kenny,

Your second sentence mischaracterizes what I actually stated. Please correct.; September 13, 2019 at 7:14 PM
kenhyderal said...: K Supporter said" When are you going to post the link to Wecht's report?"--------- Hopefully, forthcoming, in due course. Presently withheld for strategic reasons.; September 14, 2019 at 9:30 AM
kenhyderal said...: K Supporter said: "Your second sentence mischaracterizes (sic) what I actually stated. Please correct.------------------------------- In the 9/13/19 9:56 AM post?; September 14, 2019 at 9:33 AM
Kenny Supporter said...: Yes.; September 14, 2019 at 10:44 AM
kenhyderal said...: Before I proffer a correction, can I ask if you believe the esophageal intubation was an intervening cause and if you think Walt and Abe agree with your statement ("From an objective and scientific point of view, the stab wound had no nexus to Daye's death or brain-death"). I did not get the impression from reading their posts that they do. They seem to agree that it was the proximate cause and site Welch, a case with virtually no concordance with Crystal's case. They seem to be in accord, with Nichols statement "she stabbed him he died". Hopefully they will join back in and we can all come to agreement. I like to give the hypothetical; if I shoved an intoxicated Daye who was badgering me and he fell and had a compound fractured of his ankle requiring surgery and that took him to Duke where he had the same fate, would I be guilty of second degree murder?; September 14, 2019 at 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Based on Walt's discussion of the Welch case, I do not believe that the esophageal intubation was an intervening cause. As I recall, Walt stated that an intervening cause must be deliberate to break liability. As a result, it is clear that Walt does not believe that the intubation was an intervening cause. Based on Abe's comments, I do not believe that he believes it is an intervening cause either.

The quote you falsely attribute to me is from Dr. Harr (I used italics to quote his post; my statements are not italicized). I think it is clear that Walt and Abe do not agree with Dr. Harr's quote. You owe me a second correction.

You have made it clear that you do not find Welch to be appropriate precedent. I look forward to seeing the case law you believe provides the appropriate guidance. If you continue to refuse to provide alternative guidance, I will be forced to continue to accept by default Walt's discussion.; September 15, 2019 at 6:18 AM
kenhyderal said...: excuse spelling error site instead of cite; September 15, 2019 at 8:17 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous; 9-15-19 6:18 AM: I acknowledge your corrections. I wish you would post under a user-name, preferably a registered one. I am sorry Walt no longer posts here but Abe does and I hope he will weigh-in. Because of the uniqueness of Crystal's case and Dr. Harr's proven contention that that " the stab wound had no nexus to the death or brain death"; this case cries out for a judicial ruling about the facts of the case, among those being, the total sequence of events that led up to Daye's death, beyond M.E. Clay Nichol's flippant "she stabbed him he died". Imperfectly applied case law in cases such as this is problematic and is unfair to a jury as is withholding all the proceeding events that lead to death. Can you comment on my hypothetical case?; September 16, 2019 at 1:14 PM
Kenny Supporter said...: 1. I thank you for the corrections.

2. I was unaware that Dr. Harr had ever "proven" his contention that there was no nexus between the stab wound and Daye's death. I believe he has merely made this assertion. In large part, this is a legal question, and you and Dr. Harr have refused to provide the case law you believe provides appropriate guidance. Walt seemed to accept "she stabbed him, he died" as sufficient because there is no deliberate action to serve as an intervening cause to sever Mangum's legal liability. I look forward to reviewing your case law that supports a different conclusion.

3. I see no reason on your hypothetical to disagree with the answer Walt provided the last time you raised this question. I will note, however, that you have provided insufficient facts to provide a single definitive answer.; September 16, 2019 at 3:16 PM
Anonymous said...: Is "Kenny Supporter" really Lance??

I'm just asking, because I see a lot of similarities between the two with regards to their responses.

Although, in Kenny Supporter's favor, I don't think he's referred to Kenny as a "troll"....Yet.; September 17, 2019 at 9:05 AM

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