justice4nifong: Mangum v. Kinsley and DHHS: Motion to Disqualify a Judge

Sunday, March 27, 2022

Mangum v. Kinsley and DHHS: Motion to Disqualify a Judge

96 comments:

Anonymous said...: Good luck with your motion, Sid.; March 27, 2022 at 7:37 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

Please give us your analysis of the motion.; March 27, 2022 at 9:55 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: To kenhyderal’s detractors:

See paragraph 14 of the motion.; March 28, 2022 at 4:13 AM
Anonymous said...: This filing is pathetic even by Sid's low standards. He clearly has not listened to a thing anyone has said on this blog trying to help him. His filings contain the same misstatements of law and errors that have been repeatedly pointed out to him.

The reason your lawsuits all fail isn't injustice or bias, it's that they are flawed, and when you are told how to fix them, you refuse.; March 28, 2022 at 4:59 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: Dr. Harr -- I posted this on the previous blog entry, but it's more appropriate here:

Dr. Harr, neither [the Oxygen Media or DHHS] lawsuit brought by Mangum before Judge Dever involves Duke, so his ties to Duke are irrelevant.

If the judge has financial ties to Oxygen Media (for example), that would be a conflict of interest warranting his recusal.

You’d be more likely getting judicial disqualification in the DHHS case if you can establish ties to DHHS and/or Mr. Kinsley.

Have you tried identifying those links?

Thanks,
-Chuck; March 28, 2022 at 9:14 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 3-28-22 4:59 As we all know, the reason the suits have failed is not in anyway about their merits; it's because procedural violations, simply designed to effect a desired outcome of denying justice to Crystal, are used. Try and refute the justified claims and you can't but you can dig up procedural violations that when invoked give you a slippery out to deny. Wonder why Lawyers and Politicians are so despised and the US Justice System is universally believed to be broken? These professions once honored are considered corrupt and immoral.; March 28, 2022 at 9:51 AM
Anonymous said...: If Sid knew what he was doing, he wouldn't keep making these procedural violations (like filing lolsuits after the statute of limitations has passed).

Ask medicolegal scholar Dr. Cyril Wecht if Mangum should hire a lawyer rather than rely on Sid to do her legal work.; March 28, 2022 at 3:36 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good luck with your motion, Sid.

March 27, 2022 at 7:37 PM

Hey, Anony.

Thanks. Hopefully it will be successful.; March 28, 2022 at 5:55 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
This filing is pathetic even by Sid's low standards. He clearly has not listened to a thing anyone has said on this blog trying to help him. His filings contain the same misstatements of law and errors that have been repeatedly pointed out to him.

The reason your lawsuits all fail isn't injustice or bias, it's that they are flawed, and when you are told how to fix them, you refuse.

March 28, 2022 at 4:59 AM

Hey, Anony.

Keep in mind that this filing is about a motion to disqualify a judge who has seriously close ties to Duke University. The question is: Do you believe that Judge Dever should be disqualified as a judge in Mangum's case?; March 28, 2022 at 5:59 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Callm3Chuck said...
Dr. Harr -- I posted this on the previous blog entry, but it's more appropriate here:

Dr. Harr, neither [the Oxygen Media or DHHS] lawsuit brought by Mangum before Judge Dever involves Duke, so his ties to Duke are irrelevant.

If the judge has financial ties to Oxygen Media (for example), that would be a conflict of interest warranting his recusal.

You’d be more likely getting judicial disqualification in the DHHS case if you can establish ties to DHHS and/or Mr. Kinsley.

Have you tried identifying those links?

Thanks,
-Chuck

March 28, 2022 at 9:14 AM

Hey, Callm3chuck.

I think your view about appearance of judicial impartiality is far too narrow if it is limited to a judge's ties directly to a party in a case he is presiding over and/or whether the judge stands to financially gain from the outcome of the case.

Mangum is clearly seen as a nemesis of Duke University... her name often substituted in media stories with the moniker "Duke Lacrosse Accuser." Duke holds Mangum responsible for them having to fork over approximately $100 million to settle issues related to her accusations... money that the insurance company would not reimburse.

Judge James C. Dever III is a graduate from Duke Law School, received many awards and accolades from Duke, has taught classes there, is a lecturing fellow there, and is a member of the Duke Law School's visitor's board.

Mangum didn't object to his being appointed to the first case... libel/defamation against Oxygen Media Group, however, when her lawsuit against DHHS for civil rights violation was first assigned to Judge Louise Flanagan (with no discernible ties to Duke) and then reassigned to Judge Dever, Mangum and I tried to understand why. As in the three previous letters to the clerk of the Eastern Division and the two letters to the clerk of the Middle Division, letters of inquiry were ignored. That is why the lawsuit was filed.

Although Duke University might not be a party in Mangum's lawsuits against Oxygen Media or DHHS, the outcome of the case could have far-reaching implications for Duke. Keep in mind that if Mangum is determined to be absolutely innocent in Daye's death, the onus for his death would fall squarely on medical staff at Duke University Hospital. For Duke University a lot rides on the outcomes of both Mangum's lawsuits, and the appearance of impartiality is of utmost importance. Ethically, and by federal rules, Judge Dever should be disqualified. Judges have recused themselves for far less.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, though not related to parties in the January 6th lawsuits, and does not stand to gain monetarily from them should, in my opinion, recuse himself from all January 6th cases before the Supreme Court because of his wife's deep involvement with the insurrectionists. Don't you agree?; March 28, 2022 at 6:28 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: Sid - Do you know what a “clerk of court” does?

Can you show us where the “clerk of court” has the power to assign judges to a case?; March 28, 2022 at 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

With regard to Clarence Thomas's wife - other than having views about the 2020 election, and expressing those views (which is a constitutionally protected right), please give me examples of her "deep involvement with the insurrectionists?"

Many - likely most - Americans across the political spectrum have opinions about the 2020 election and have expressed those opinions in a variety of different forums. Other than the fact you personally disagree with Mrs. Thomas's views, how are they any different than the views expressed by numerous others - including judges and legislators - on the left? And how do opinions held by someone else disqualify Justice Thomas from hearing a case related to J6?

If views held and expressed by family members are grounds for disqualifying a judge, I doubt there is a judge in America qualified to hear a case related to J6.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 29, 2022 at 4:03 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: I've posted several times regarding my proposal to create a repository for Dr. Harr's legal documents.

I've come to realize I've never contacted Dr. Harr personally so that he has my contact information. I have done so this morning.

My hope is that, with my contact information, Dr. Harr will reconsider my offer.

-Chuck; March 29, 2022 at 6:37 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 3-28-22 3:36 PM Crystal had lots of (Court appointed Lawyers) none of whom did a thing for her. None of them conducted any investigation into the case against her. All of them were compensated. Only Dr. Harr did that and he was able to show that Crystal did not murder Reginald Daye and that Duke was responsible for his death. Duke Lacrosse Apologists scoffed at Dr. Harr but it took world renown Forensic Pathologists and Medico-legal scholar Professor and author to concur with Dr. Harr. The Governor and the AG are both highly qualified Lawyers and they know full well that Crystal is wrongly convicted of murder. They have the full ability to immediately correct this miscarriage of Justice, figuratively with the waive of their hand or at least to set the process in motion. Ask yourself why they wont? A free and exonerated Crystal Mangum is a political and reputational threat to them and to their careers. Let this innocent person rot in gaol for the sake of our reputation. Dr. Wecht, I suspect, would say I determined the death was an accident and not a homicide, now, for the sake of Justice, the powers that be must correct this.; March 29, 2022 at 9:39 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: As we all know, the reason the suits have failed is not in anyway about their merits; it's because procedural violations, simply designed to effect a desired outcome of denying justice to Crystal, are used. Try and refute the justified claims and you can't but you can dig up procedural violations that when invoked give you a slippery out to deny. Wonder why Lawyers and Politicians are so despised and the US Justice System is universally believed to be broken? These professions once honored are considered corrupt and immoral.

Ken,
Go to Canada and try to file a lawsuit barred by the statute of limitations. Or try to file a lawsuit in Provincial Court that the rules say should be filed in Federal Court (or vice-versa). You will discover that Canada (and, indeed, any modern country) has complex procedural rules that keep many claims from being decided on the merits. In fact, in Canada, the consequences of violating these procedural rules are worse than in the U.S.-- not only will your case be dismissed, but you may wind up having to pay the other side's lawyer bills.; March 29, 2022 at 10:09 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: Although Duke University might not be a party in Mangum's lawsuits against Oxygen Media or DHHS, the outcome of the case could have far-reaching implications for Duke. Keep in mind that if Mangum is determined to be absolutely innocent in Daye's death, the onus for his death would fall squarely on medical staff at Duke University Hospital. For Duke University a lot rides on the outcomes of both Mangum's lawsuits

For Duke, nothing rides on the outcome of Mangum's lawsuits. Any possible claim against them for malpractice is long barred by the statute of limitations.; March 29, 2022 at 10:12 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Dr. C. 3-29-22 10:09 AM--- No, not nothing; what, for Duke, rides on the outome of Crystal's lawsuits would be their reputation, such as it is. Finacial consequences may be barred by statute but there would be horrendous consequences for their reputation, especially if it could be shown that they knew the truth and failed to come forward and admit to it.; March 29, 2022 at 1:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Crystal is a political and reputational threat to the governor and AG and their careers?

BAHAHAHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHA; March 29, 2022 at 2:11 PM
Anonymous said...: So…You’re NOT going to ask medicolegal scholar Dr. Cyril Wecht if Mangum should hire a lawyer?; March 29, 2022 at 5:46 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Anonymous 3-29-22 5:46 Everyone knows that Crystal and her supporters do not have the resources to hire a Lawyer. Thanks to Dr. Harr and Dr. Wecht we know she is completely innocent and so do those charged with administering the NC Justice System. It appears that Justice in NC takes a back seat to process, most likely as a method to obtain desired results, which there would be don't take on the political and corporate powers that have a vested interest in keeping Crystal just where she is. The only thing a Lawyer could do is navigate the process but without any guarantees. The Lawyers she had all knew the process but that didn't help Crystal. Crystal was falsely made a pariah by the Duke Lacrosse Defence and even the agencies set up to help the wrongly convicted in NC are afraid to take on her case, knowing what powerful forces there are in opposition and also because of the slander campaign even the general public and the media are not sympathetic.; March 29, 2022 at 7:18 PM
Anonymous said...: So, there are political and corporate powers that have a vested interest in keeping Crystal where she is?

BAHAHAHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHAHA; March 30, 2022 at 3:39 AM
kenhyderal said...: YOUBETCHA YOUBETCHA YOUBETCHA; March 30, 2022 at 8:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Has there been any recent movement on the Oxygen Media case?; March 30, 2022 at 12:30 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: KENHYDERAL: WHY HAVE YOU NOT CONTACTED ME? I HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU WANT REGARDING THE PARTY.; March 30, 2022 at 2:07 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Has there been any recent movement on the Oxygen Media case?

March 30, 2022 at 12:30 PM

Hey, Anony.

Defendants Oxygen Media asked for an extension of time to file which was granted. They have until April 8, 2022 to file a response. To date none has been filed. Will try to post Oxygen's response soon after it is filed and I have a copy.; March 30, 2022 at 6:22 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: Prince Humperdinck @ March 28, 2022 at 7:23 PM brings up a good point, Dr. Harr.

From what I’ve found, the clerk of courts doesn’t assign judges to cases (feel free to correct me- I’m not familiar with court procedures, and I know these vary from state to state).

Also, I attempted to open your link to read through the documents again, and I got routed to an “account suspended” webpage.

Have you checked your documents lately? I originally thought it was an issue with my account, but I’m not logged in currently and on a different device and I continue to see this happening.

Thanks,
-Chuck; March 30, 2022 at 6:28 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: A quick update- I’ve tried accessing your documents on multiple internet browsers (Safari, Chrome, MS Edge, even DuckDuckGo), and I see the same error.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Thanks,
-Chuck; March 30, 2022 at 6:35 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

I don't know what's going on with my blog site. I'm going to have it checked tomorrow morning. I'm not aware of any delinquent payments. Maybe sabotage. Don't know.

Will try to get it working as soon as possible.

As you were.; March 30, 2022 at 7:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Did the political and corporate powers that Kenny referred to sabotage your site? Or maybe Rae Evans is causing the problem?; March 30, 2022 at 9:07 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: The links to the documents appear to be working now.; March 31, 2022 at 5:24 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

A procedural mishap on my end resulted in the unexpected suspension of the blog site last evening. Thank you for alerting me about it. The error was corrected this morning so everything should be fine.

It was a minor incident regarding the failure to check a box on the domain form... but, I must admit I was a little concerned as; March 31, 2022 at 4:38 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: --- continued ---

Mangum detractors are extensive and have a lot of power.; March 31, 2022 at 4:40 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

That’s great news. I was concerned that Rae Evans had joined forces with CBS and they were trying to shut you down.; March 31, 2022 at 5:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Mangum detractors had the check box added to the domain form, knowing Sid would fail to select it.; April 1, 2022 at 1:30 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: I've noticed that Kenhyderal has a tendency to refer to a group of (undefined) people as "Duke Lacrosse Apologists".

I couldn't help but think "Why are these people apologizing to Duke Lacrosse?"

Turns out "apologist" simply means "one who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something." (thank you, Merriam-Webster).

I'm sure some commenters here have been around since the blog began (by a "Mike Nifong Apologist"?), and may very well have defended Duke during that whole Duke Lacrosse Scandal debacle. Are there any (other than me) that haven't been around that long?

Am I considered a "Duke Lacrosse Apologist" as well? How do you earn this title -- is it based on something as simple as Kenhyderal's dislike of your comments?; April 1, 2022 at 1:55 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: I am a kenhyderal apologist and proud of it.; April 1, 2022 at 5:28 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: KENHYDERAL: I HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR REGARDING THE PARTY. YOU SHOULD CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY.; April 1, 2022 at 5:32 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Dr. Harr: Did you receive my reply to Chuck re: "Duke Lacrosse Apologists" ?; April 2, 2022 at 10:19 AM
guiowen said...: Sidney,
Are you all right? Haven't heard from you for four days.; April 4, 2022 at 1:58 PM
Anonymous said...: You cited in your motion a newspaper clipping (exhibit I) about Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson stating she would recuse herself from the affirmative action case against Harvard, as she is a Harvard Alumnus and former board overseer.

Why?

Duke is not a party to the Mangum v. DHHS lawsuit. There's nothing about Judge Devers relationship to Duke University that matters.

In regards to your other comments:

""the onus for his death would fall squarely on medical staff at Duke University Hospital."

Reginald Daye's family had an opportunity to file a malpractice suit against DUMC and didn't, and the statute of limitations has passed. Their is no "onus", no burden of proof.

"For Duke University a lot rides on the outcomes of both Mangum's lawsuits..."

At one time, DUMC was sued once for every 1300 or so patients admitted to acute-care beds. their average acute-care admittance is @ 113 patients/ day. Do the math.

They'll never even notice the outcome of these lawsuits.; April 5, 2022 at 1:15 PM
kenhyderal said...: ANONYMOUS SAID; "At one time, DUMC was sued once for every 1300 or so patients admitted to acute-care beds.".......... For wrongful death due to medical malpractice??; April 6, 2022 at 8:49 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous guiowen said...
Sidney,
Are you all right? Haven't heard from you for four days.

April 4, 2022 at 1:58 PM

Hey, gui, mon ami.

Am doing well, thank you... but am quite busy. Letters, shar-video, and managing lawsuits. Ergo, I have little time to devote to responding to comments.; April 6, 2022 at 10:12 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
You cited in your motion a newspaper clipping (exhibit I) about Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson stating she would recuse herself from the affirmative action case against Harvard, as she is a Harvard Alumnus and former board overseer.

Why?

Duke is not a party to the Mangum v. DHHS lawsuit. There's nothing about Judge Devers relationship to Duke University that matters.

In regards to your other comments:

""the onus for his death would fall squarely on medical staff at Duke University Hospital."

Reginald Daye's family had an opportunity to file a malpractice suit against DUMC and didn't, and the statute of limitations has passed. Their is no "onus", no burden of proof.

"For Duke University a lot rides on the outcomes of both Mangum's lawsuits..."

At one time, DUMC was sued once for every 1300 or so patients admitted to acute-care beds. their average acute-care admittance is @ 113 patients/ day. Do the math.

They'll never even notice the outcome of these lawsuits.

April 5, 2022 at 1:15 PM

Hey, Anony.

Although Duke University is not a direct party in Mangum's lawsuit, Judge Dever can still be considered to be biased against Mangum who many refer to as the Duke Lacrosse accuser. What is important is the appearance in impartiality, and that is challenged when Mangum's position is that Duke University Hospital is responsible for Daye's death, therefore making the WRAL-5 News report false and defamatory in describing Daye's death as a stabbing death. Though Duke is not a party in the lawsuit, its outcome will reflect on Duke. For example, if the court rules that Daye's death was not due to a stabbing then that would put the onus on Duke University Hospital for his demise.

Regarding Daye's family, it is my belief... only an opinion... that Duke University probably compensated the Daye family for Reginald Daye's death long ago. I base that mainly on the fact that the family has shown animus towards Mangum and has refused to consider speaking up against Duke University regarding his death... not that I blame them.

I'm not sure I understand your final point about the number of ICU admissions.; April 6, 2022 at 10:27 AM
Anonymous said...: You say it "...would put the onus on Duke University Hospital for his demise."

"Onus" has a legal meaning -- the "burden of proof". No one is filing a lawsuit on behalf of Reginald Daye -- there is no obligation to prove Daye's death wasn't due to malpractice, regardless of the outcome of Mangum's lawsuits.

The point regarding the acute care admissions was to show that DUMC (at least at one time) was sued for malpractice around once every 2 weeks.

If they're used to getting sued that often, why do you think they care about a lawsuit that they're not even a party to?

BTW, acute care admissions are inpatient/surgical admissions, not just ICU. I shouldn't have to explain that to a physician -- even one long out of practice.; April 6, 2022 at 4:02 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Nifong Supporter: I think Anonymous cited acute care admissions not ICU admissions. PS Did you ever find my post answering Chuck at 4-1-22 1:55 PM; April 6, 2022 at 4:44 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

The group is waiting for kenhyderal’s post regarding Duke Lacrosse Apologists. Please release the post as soon as possible. kenhyderal has assured us that the post includes no plagiarized material.

Thank you.; April 7, 2022 at 9:14 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ KH Supporter: Perhaps my post violated the "kenhyderal rules"; April 8, 2022 at 8:34 AM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

I am certain that kenhyderal’s post regarding Duke Lacrosse Apologists does not violate the kenhyderal doctrine. However, you may be concerned about the recently documented cases in which kenhyderal’s posts included plagiarized material. Under kenhyderal’s definition of plagiarism, the material he copied raised no issues. In addition, I am certain that, when he prepares his posts, kenhyderal will no longer cut and paste content written by others.

It is time for you to release kenhyderal’s post.; April 9, 2022 at 5:32 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Dr. Harr: Sorry Dr. Harr. Looks like I've been feeding the trolls. If you are unable to locate that post to Chuck from April 1st, let me know and I will try, from memory, to post it again.; April 9, 2022 at 1:28 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: No trolls here, kenhyderal. I am just covering your back. It’s the least I can do for a friend.; April 9, 2022 at 2:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

We hope you did not plagiarize in your post on Duke Lacrosse Apologists.; April 10, 2022 at 8:22 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: "Defendants Oxygen Media asked for an extension of time to file which was granted. They have until April 8, 2022 to file a response. To date none has been filed. Will try to post Oxygen's response soon after it is filed and I have a copy."

Dr. Harr -- Granted, April 8 was this past Friday, but I took a quick look at CourtListener
(https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60291130/mangum-v-oxygen-media-llc/) this morning, and as of yet there's no indication that anything was filed.

Are you aware of any filing?

Thanks,
-Chuck; April 11, 2022 at 7:18 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Apologies to all, for I mistakenly got Mangum's federal court cases mixed up. Mangum v. Oxygen Media Group is awaiting action by the federal court... hopefully the magistrate judge.

Mangum's lawsuit against Secretary Kody Kinsley and NC DHHS had an April 8, 2022 extension by which to file, and in keeping with its strategy to run out the clock, waited until April 8th to file a 20-page response... definitely not worthy of me taking the time to upload. Have not received a response in the Motion to Disqualify Judge Dever.

As you were.; April 11, 2022 at 1:43 PM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

Will you release kenhyderal’s post regarding Duke Lacrosse Apologists if he signs a pledge confirming that he committed no plagiarism when he prepared the post?; April 11, 2022 at 5:42 PM
Prince Humperdinck said...: I would like to see the DHHS response.; April 11, 2022 at 5:54 PM
Dr. Caligari said...: I would like to see the DHHS response.

So would I. It's pointless to discuss the case without seeing both sides' filings.; April 12, 2022 at 9:47 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Prince Humperdinck said...
I would like to see the DHHS response.

April 11, 2022 at 5:54 PM

and

Dr. Caligari said...
I would like to see the DHHS response.

So would I. It's pointless to discuss the case without seeing both sides' filings.

April 12, 2022 at 9:47 AM

Hey, Prince Humperdinck and Dr. Caligari.

First, I would like to post the twenty-page Response by Assistant Attorney General John Schaeffer who is representing defendants Mr. Kinsley and NC DHHS. However, to do so would require a significant amount of time... time that I, as a one-man army, cannot afford. Although I am awaiting action by the court on the federal Oxygen Media complaint, the other two cases have activity that requires my immediate attention. Also, I am trying to complete Part Three of my shar-video on the WRAL-5 News hearing.

I agree that it is fair to post both sides of an argument, but time does not permit that in this case. The other option would be not to post my side of the argument.; April 13, 2022 at 4:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

If you did not post your side of the argument, no one would miss it.; April 13, 2022 at 1:46 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: "First, I would like to post the twenty-page Response by Assistant Attorney General John Schaeffer who is representing defendants Mr. Kinsley and NC DHHS. However, to do so would require a significant amount of time... time that I, as a one-man army, cannot afford."

I offered to create a repository for these documents and others no longer available on your blog. You declined.

I emailed you from my personal email address. You never responded.

Your a "one-man army" by choice, not by circumstance. Stop using it as an excuse.; April 13, 2022 at 3:15 PM
A Durham Man said...: Sid,

What are you hiding? We can only assume that there is something in the government’s response that you don’t want us to see.; April 13, 2022 at 5:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

It’s time for you to come clean.; April 13, 2022 at 6:12 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: Dr. Harr

I’ve noticed from Kenhyderal’s comments that you occasionally fail to post comments. My hope is that you at least read them.

You have my email address. Email the response document to me and I will create a repository for it (and any other documents).

I’ll be sure you are identified as an “owner” of the repository, so you can add/remove/edit any documents that reside there.

I’ll post “read only” links to the documents here on this blog so that they can be read by commenters.

Total time effort on your part? The time it takes you to send an email with an attachment. That should be less time than it took you to compose your last response.

Thanks,
-Chuck; April 13, 2022 at 6:27 PM
Nana D. said...: Sid,

I agree with A Durham Man. Your actions indicate that you are hiding something in the government’s response.

What do you think, Kenny?; April 14, 2022 at 4:19 AM
Doogie Howser said...: Dr. Harr,

I have the same question as others, Are you hiding something?; April 14, 2022 at 4:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

What’s in the government’s response that you don’t want us to see?; April 14, 2022 at 2:55 PM
Nifong Supporter Supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

I have to say that I am disappointed with your unwillingness to post the Assistant Attorney General’s response. You have always followed a policy of full transparency and shared with us all the filings in your court cases. Your failure to post the response already has lead to several of your readers offering wild conspiracy theories to explain your behavior. I recommend that you reconsider your decision.; April 14, 2022 at 5:06 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Callm3Chuck said...
"First, I would like to post the twenty-page Response by Assistant Attorney General John Schaeffer who is representing defendants Mr. Kinsley and NC DHHS. However, to do so would require a significant amount of time... time that I, as a one-man army, cannot afford."

I offered to create a repository for these documents and others no longer available on your blog. You declined.

I emailed you from my personal email address. You never responded.

Your a "one-man army" by choice, not by circumstance. Stop using it as an excuse.

April 13, 2022 at 3:15 PM

Anonymous A Durham Man said...

Sid,

What are you hiding? We can only assume that there is something in the government’s response that you don’t want us to see.

April 13, 2022 at 5:47 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

It’s time for you to come clean.

April 13, 2022 at 6:12 PM

Anonymous Nana D. said...

Sid,

I agree with A Durham Man. Your actions indicate that you are hiding something in the government’s response.

What do you think, Kenny?

April 14, 2022 at 4:19 AM

Anonymous Doogie Howser said...

Dr. Harr,

I have the same question as others, Are you hiding something?

April 14, 2022 at 4:27 AM

Anonymous Nifong Supporter Supporter said...

Dr. Harr,

I have to say that I am disappointed with your unwillingness to post the Assistant Attorney General’s response. You have always followed a policy of full transparency and shared with us all the filings in your court cases. Your failure to post the response already has lead to several of your readers offering wild conspiracy theories to explain your behavior. I recommend that you reconsider your decision.

April 14, 2022 at 5:06 PM

Hey, CallM3Chuck, Durham Man, Anony, Nana D., Doogie Howser, and Nifong Double-Supporter.

First of all, I am not trying to hide anything. That is what the media is doing by keeping the truths of Mangum's innocence hidden from the general public.

As stated before, I am an army of one and my time is limited... my priorities are therefore listed as follows by importance: (1) to work for Mangum's release and freedom through letters/communications, management of Mangum's legal affairs, production of shar-videos, etc.; (2) to spend quality time with my extremely spoiled Siamese kitty-cat Adonis (he'll bite me if I don't feed him tuna and treats or pay him attention); and (3) everything else.

Actually, anyone can gain access to the documents the same way I did... go to the federal courthouse's clerk's office, and use its public computer to pull up the Mangum v. DHHS case, and click on the records documents and print. It cost ten cents a page to print the document. It is my belief that all federal courthouses should be able to provide access to Mangum v. DHHS and Mangum v. Oxygen Media Group.

Let me know if further elucidation is required.; April 15, 2022 at 9:27 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: And here I'll note you haven't published ANY of my comments since April 13.; April 15, 2022 at 9:57 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: -- addendum to my last comment --

So yes, further elucidation is required.; April 15, 2022 at 9:58 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: I emailed you these questions, but I thought I'd post them here for everyone to read and comment on. Of course, that depends upon you actually allowing my comments -- something you've been loathe to do, without even providing a reason.

At any rate. You mention printing hard-copies of these files from the federal courthouse's clerk's office.

Are you unable to get electronic versions of these files (PDF, etc.)?

If not, How do you manage to show them in your blog entries (good examples include the DHHS reply to Mangum's lawsuit posted on Feb 15 and the legal documents included in your video for "Judge's Desired Outcome in Ex Parte Hearing: Part One" from Feb 7)?

Are you manually converting these files to an electronic format to post them?

What process do you use?

I'm only trying to help you provide information to your readers that you don't have time to
work on.

I think Kenhyderal would agree that this is a worthwhile project -- although apparently you are censoring him as well, so we may never know.; April 15, 2022 at 10:21 AM
Fake Abe Froman said...: Sid,

It is becoming apparent that you are stonewalling.

Fake Abe Froman
Chicago, ILL; April 15, 2022 at 4:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

What are you hiding?; April 15, 2022 at 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Many of us are not believing your story. You should post the government’s response.; April 16, 2022 at 6:52 AM
A Durham Man said...: Sid,

I guarantee you that there is far more interest among your readers in seeing the government’s response rather than your next shar-video.; April 16, 2022 at 8:40 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: Kenhyderal -- Do you mind If a ask Dr. Harr for your email address?

Thanks,
-Chuck; April 16, 2022 at 11:35 AM
Doogie Howser said...: Sid,

I agree with A Durham Man.; April 16, 2022 at 2:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Chuck,

Don’t feed the troll.; April 16, 2022 at 7:05 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!!
IMPORTANT MESSAGE!

Hope that everyone has a fantastic Easter.

My work, naturally, continues in trying to bring justice to Crystal Mangum. As you aware, it consumes all my time.

For those of you who want to view the Response by the NC Attorney General's Office regarding the lawsuit against NC DHHS, I advise you to get a copy of it the same way that I did. Go the the Federal Courthouse (if you are in the Eastern District it shouldn't be a problem) and look up the case (Mangum's full name should be enough to pull up her two cases), search through the record of documents, click on the Response of April 8, 2022, and print out the copy.

Not trying to keep the State's Response from you... after all, I'm not the media. As I said before, my priorities are Crystal, Adonis, and everything else is a distant third.

As you were.; April 17, 2022 at 7:51 AM
kenhyderal said...: @ Chuck e-mail me c/o Dr. Harr (justice4nifong@gmail.com) and he will forward it to me.; April 17, 2022 at 8:58 AM
A Durham Man said...: Sid,

Why are you not releasing my post?; April 17, 2022 at 9:19 AM
A Durham Man said...: Chuck,

Be sure to ask Kenny how his internet buddy Kilgo is doing.; April 17, 2022 at 3:36 PM
CallM3Chuck said...: Kenhyderal- I’m not sure I understand. I email Dr. Harr, he forwards my email to you, then what? Do you respond through Dr. Harr as well, or will you contact me directly?

I’m not saying I don’t trust Dr. Harr’s role in this process, but he’s already failed us both (at least once) on this blog alone.

He’s identified his priorities, and playing with his cat is more important to him than our conversation.; April 18, 2022 at 5:42 AM
Dr. Caligari said...: Go the the Federal Courthouse (if you are in the Eastern District it shouldn't be a problem)

Some of us are nowhere near North Carolina.; April 18, 2022 at 8:39 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: NOT TO WORRY. I AM FINE, ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR KENHYDERAL TO CONTACT ME SO THAT I CAN GIVE HIM THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PARTY THAT HE WANTS.; April 18, 2022 at 9:46 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: Kenhyderal -- I've emailed Dr. Harr with the intent that he forward that email on to you.

Quite honestly, given his track record for losing or otherwise failing to post comments here on this blog, I don't expect you to receive it, or I to see your response.; April 18, 2022 at 12:04 PM
Fake Abe Froman said...: Chuck,

Good luck with Kenny. Let us know how that works out.

Fake Abe Froman
Chicago, ILL; April 18, 2022 at 3:11 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Callm3Chuck said...
Kenhyderal -- I've emailed Dr. Harr with the intent that he forward that email on to you.

Quite honestly, given his track record for losing or otherwise failing to post comments here on this blog, I don't expect you to receive it, or I to see your response.

April 18, 2022 at 12:04 PM

Hey, Callm3Chuck.

I just now e-mailed your message directly to kenhyderal.; April 18, 2022 at 6:09 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Dr. Caligari said...
Go the the Federal Courthouse (if you are in the Eastern District it shouldn't be a problem)

Some of us are nowhere near North Carolina.

April 18, 2022 at 8:39 AM

Hey, Dr. Caligari.

I am not aware if the U.S. District Courthouses in the Eastern District are the only ones where Mangum's cases can be accessed. It is possible her court-filed documents could be accessed in other parts of North Carolina and even in other states. I just don't know. I would recommend going to your nearest federal courthouse and get on their public computer and see if you can pull up Mangum's federal cases.; April 18, 2022 at 6:15 PM
Harr Supporter said...: Dr. Harr,

Whatever it is that you are hiding in the government’s response will eventually come to light. You can limit your embarrassment by posting the document now. I am afraid you are just digging a deeper hole for yourself.; April 19, 2022 at 4:27 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: Dr. Harr -- So far, you've refused my assistance and you've refused to answer my questions. While I consider myself open-minded, I'm getting the impression (like other posters here have expressed) that you are hiding something.

That's unfortunate. If you goal is honest, open discussion and getting everyone to a consensus on Crystal Mangum's situation, it's in her best interest to make the documents relevant to these various cases openly available.

It could very well be true that DHHS has questionable reasons for not reviewing the Reginald Daye autopsy.

We don't know, and without seeing their latest response, the only thing we have to base our decisions on is the DHHS reply you posted stating that their decision not to review the autopsy, and that the original investigation "was not influenced by any outside forces nor higher authority".

Thanks,
-Chuck; April 19, 2022 at 6:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Wecht is a lawyer. He provided his opinion for free. Why not ask him to do Mangums legal work for free? He certainly couldn’t do a worse job than Sid.; April 19, 2022 at 2:41 PM
Callm3Chuck said...: Kenhyderal -- Thanks for your response. I have a few more questions for you that I've sent to Dr. Harr.

I find it odd that any correspondence has to be routed through Dr. Harr. You have my email address, and can contact me directly. Dr. Harr has, after all, identified his priorities, and being our email handler falls below playing with his cat.

I will not share your email address with anyone without your permission.; April 20, 2022 at 8:22 AM
kenhyderal supporter said...: Chuck,

You should understand that kenhyderal is cautious because, for more than 10 years, he has been the subject of repeated, malicious attacks by Duke Lacrosse Apologists, mischief makers and the powers that be. Therefore, he has no choice but to use Dr. Harr as an intermediary when he communicates with you. However, as you work with kenhyderal, I am confident you will find that receiving the benefit of his wisdom and savvy experience is well worth the wait.; April 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; April 21, 2022 at 6:25 AM
Callm3Chuck said...: All - My reasons for communicating with Ken outside of this forum are rather simple, so in the interest of transparency, I'll post them here:

I wanted to get some background for why the label "Duke Lacrosse Apologists" is still being used 15 years after the end of the Duke Lacrosse case.

Ken pointed out that commenters from that time are still commenting here, and that their responses are always an attack on Dr. Harr or himself.

I think that is in some ways valid -- a number of posts here seem to only be for the purpose of irritating or making fun of one or both of them.

There are some posts, that although contradictory to their opinions, are no less valid. The posts regarding legal issues are generally correct (regarding issues like statute of limitations, etc.) and Dr. Harr and Ken chose to dismiss them, even though the commenters turn out to be correct in these matters.

The other thing I wanted to do is convince Ken that my reasons for creating the document repository for Dr. Harr are valid and have value to both Crystal Mangum and to this blog.

We'll see. I won't be posting Ken's emails here, but if he wishes to share, I have no problems with that.

*Reposted due to some typos....; April 21, 2022 at 2:27 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ Chuck: I have no problem with you posting the e-mails I sent to you, here. I don't in fact have your e-mail address, although, with your permission, I'm sure Dr. Harr would provide me with that . Although KHS is, as usual, being facetious, there is some validity in what he says. When it appeared an innocent Lacrcosse Player told Poster Kilgo he was a wittness to the sexual assaullt on Crystal and he passed that on to me, which I reported here, precipitously he virtually disappeared. Kilgo was a prolific poster for several years and he spent many hours deleting his hundreds of posts and his e-mail address was no longer functional. My speculation; he was either bought off or scared off. Not that I'm paranoid but I had indications attempts were made by persons unknown, associated with The Duke Lacrosse Defence, to do background checks on me. Then there is the cranks who seem to want to make sport of my advocacy of Crystal, ie purporting to be Kilgo but unable to satisfy me that they are in fact this person. I do have an easy test I use that insures I could identify any of these persons as the actual poster Kilgo and none could.; April 21, 2022 at 4:14 PM

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