In a January 14, 2012, News & Observer article by J. Andrew Curliss titled “Chiding prosecutor, judge resets sex-offender case,” the former Durham prosecutor in the 2010 case against Crystal Mangum, Angela Garcia-Lamarca, was rebuked for vindictive and improper actions against a fifty year-old man accused of child molestation decades ago. Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson stated that he would enter a written order that Ms. Garca-Lamarca, who resigned from the Durham District Attorney’s Office last month, violated ethics rules for lawyers while dealing with a heavy-handed plea deal. Durham defense attorney Kerry Sutton claimed that the assistant district attorney acted vindictively in seeking harsh charges against her client because he (the defendant in a sex abuse case) refused to accept a plea deal for time served. Although he denied the defense’s motion to have the case dismissed entirely, Judge Hudson refused to allow the defendant to face the more serious vindictive charges that Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca had subsequently filed.
It was this same prosecutor who, in February 2010, prosecuted Crystal Mangum, the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser on a series of trumped up charges. The prosecution against Mangum was “payback” for her role in the Duke Lacrosse case. Among the initial charges leveled against Ms. Mangum was attempted first degree murder (with the weapons used being listed as her hands and feet), assault (although it was her ex-boyfriend who initiated physical interaction by repeatedly punching her in the face), communication of threats, identity theft (a charge abused by the prosecution as Ms. Mangum made no attempt to fraudulently misrepresent her identity in order to gain property unlawfully), child abuse, and a slew of other charges.
During that February 2010 incident, in which it was crystal clear that Ms. Mangum was innocent of committing any crime, the Durham Police vindictively wanted to saddle her with a serious charge that carried a lengthy prison sentence, so under the pretense of smelling smoke, the apartment was emptied by the officers which presented them with the opportunity, to go along with the means and motive, to set fire to clothes in the bathtub. The police then closed the door without making any attempt to extinguish the blaze they had ignited, and allowed smoke to damage the apartment while waiting for several fire trucks and two dozen firemen to come to the scene in the middle of the night to douse some flames that had scorched some articles of clothing. Keep in mind that the police did not set the building on fire, so the charge at best should have been nothing more than vandalism… not arson. And since everyone but the arsonist officers had vacated the building, it was not even a first degree felony as charged against Mangum.
In addition to first degree felony arson, Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca also charged Mangum with three counts of “contributing to the delinquency of a minor,” asserting that the potential of destroying the apartment would make it more likely that her three children would run afoul of the law. As tenuous as the charge was, it was indisputably linked to the arson charge. This was borne out by a statement by the presiding judge, Superior Court Judge Abe Jones who ruled that the three charges of contributing to the abuse or neglect of her children would rise and fall on how the jury handled the arson charge. He promised to dismiss the abuse charge if the jury doesn't find Mangum guilty of arson. Judge Jones’ statement makes perfect sense. It’s crystal clear.
Yet, the jury, after a mistrial on the arson charge of nine to three in favor of acquittal, went on to unanimously convict Mangum on the charge related to the child abuse/endangerment/neglect. What was this jury thinking? Did the jurors not understand what Judge Abe Jones said prior to their reaching a verdict? As a result, the only true bogus charges for which Crystal Mangum was convicted was (1) injury to personal property for allegedly slashing the tires of her ex-boyfriend’s car and breaking its windshield; and (2) resisting a public officer (for allegedly struggling during her arrest and giving officers her sister's name and birth date). As most people are aware, the resisting a public officer charge is one that is used most commonly to tack onto other charges to make an offender’s offenses seem worse, or to make an arrest of an innocent person who has not committed a crime.
At the time of the prosecution, Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca was far along in her pregnancy, and could take solace in knowing that she would be on maternity leave well before the case went to trial… leaving the unscrupulous dirty prosecutorial work to fellow Durham prosecutor Mark McCullough. Because of Garcia-Lamarca’s vindictive misconduct, Ms. Mangum served three months in jail, during which time she suffered the following: (1) lost her job; (2) lost her apartment; (3) lost custody of her children; (4) was kicked out of the Masters program at NCCU; (5) lost much of her personal property; (6) her father passed away; and (7) she lost her independence as a productive citizen moving positively towards turning her life around following the Duke Lacrosse incident. Quite a legacy, that Angela Garcia-Lamarca built for herself, and one in which Mangum’s current prosecutor is currently following.
Prosecutor Kelly Gauger has charged Ms. Mangum with first degree murder in the death of Reginald Daye, a man who was electively removed from life support by the medical staff at Duke University Hospital. Mr. Daye was taken off support after being declared to be “brain-dead”… the cause of which is either unknown, undisclosed, or both. What is clear is that Daye’s comatose state had no nexus to the stab wound inflicted by Ms. Mangum… and therefore, she is not responsible for Daye’s death. The comatose state could be explained by medical malpractice or possibly even a hospital homicide, but the Durham Police Department is loathed to even take such a possibility into consideration.
According to my reliable sources, Daye admitted to police that prior to the stabbing that he had “dragged Crystal by her hair and slapped her around.” So, after an involvement in a lengthy argument, it is very likely that the stabbing by Mangum was the result of self defense. The murder charge by Gauger is ludicrous and is not even supported by a motive.
Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca has already been called out by Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson for her vindictive prosecutorial approach, similar to the one she used against Ms. Mangum in 2010. Prosecutor Kelly Gauger is following the same disgraceful path as her recently resigned colleague. And even though Ms. Mangum is getting what I believe to be, once again, less than adequate legal representation, prosecutor Gauger should heed the actions taken by Judge Hudson against Garcia-Lamarca. Gauger needs to consider that the biased mainstream media and the misguided anti-Nifong public sentiment cannot indefinitely hold back the march of Lady Justice in meting out “equal justice for all.” The day of reckoning for anti-Nifong legal eagles is close at hand. That much is crystal clear.
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Garcia-Lamarca's actions are indicative of the overall decline of the District Attorney's office in Durham under Nifong protege Tracey Cline.
Was Garcia-Lamarca an ADA with Mike Nifong? I believe she passed the bar in 2007.
Why you continue to support Cline is absolutely baffling.
Sideny, if you had reported the entire story, you would have reported that Tracey Cline tried to get Judge Hudsn from hearing yhe complaint against Garcia-Lamarca, that another ADA, Roger Echols, defended Garcia-Lamarca's actions.
Source:http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/14/1776758/chiding-prosecutor-judge-resets.html.
Your favorite, Tracey Cline seems to have orchestrated the ethics violations which led to Judge Hudson's ruling.
Sideny: "...the Durham Police vindictively wanted to saddle her with a serious charge that carried a lengthy prison sentence, so under the pretense of smelling smoke, the apartment was emptied by the officers which presented them with the opportunity, to go along with the means and motive, to set fire to clothes in the bathtub. The police then closed the door without making any attempt to extinguish the blaze they had ignited, and allowed smoke to damage the apartment while waiting for several fire trucks and two dozen firemen to come to the scene in the middle of the night to douse some flames that had scorched some articles of clothing."
Has any of this been proven in court. If not it is just another unsupported allegation, arising from your megalomaniacal deluded brain.
Or maybe your source is the same reliable source whom gave you information about Reginald Daye.
Or maybe it is the same source who told you your frivolous lawsuit against Duke was meritorious.
Sideny: "What is clear is that Daye’s comatose state had no nexus to the stab wound inflicted by Ms. Mangum… and therefore, she is not responsible for Daye’s death."
That is for the court to decide, not Sideny.
Sideny: "The comatose state could be explained by medical malpractice or possibly even a hospital homicide". The most likely explanation is that Mr. Daye had a complication from the stab wound Ms. Mangum inflicted on him, in which case Ms. Mangum would bear responsibility for his death.
Sideny: "According to my reliable sources, Daye admitted to police that prior to the stabbing that he had 'dragged Crystal by her hair and slapped her around.'". Sideny, who are your reliable sources. Your repeated refusal to divulge who they are says you are fabricating al this. Have you gone to Ms.Mangum's lawyer with this information?
Sideny "The day of reckoning for anti-Nifong legal eagles is close at hand. That much is crystal clear."
Boy are you a deluded megalomaniac.
Sideny: "...Ms. Mangum is getting what I believe to be, once again, less than adequate legal representation...".
First, judging from your admitted lack of legal expertise, you have no idea of what constitutes adequate legal representation. You seem to think adequate legal representation is accepting at face value what Sideny says.
What have you or your gang or any of Crystal's friends done to get her adequate legal representation.
Sideny: "Gauger needs to consider that the biased mainstream media and the misguided anti-Nifong public sentiment cannot indefinitely hold back the march of Lady Justice in meting out 'equal justice for all.'"
What misguded anti Nifong public sentiment? All the anti Nifong sentiment is the product of Mr. Nifong's grossly blatant wrongful prosecution of the innocent Duke Lacrosse players.
Mr. Nifong was never interested in meting out justice. He was interested in winning the election and enhancing is pension. He believed his retirement benefits justified wrongfully accused innocent men.
Sideny, if your allegations about the fire in Crystal's apartment are true. then the DPD did violate Crystal's civil rights.
What are you and your gang and Crystal's friends doing about it. Are you all trying to raise money to hire an attorney who would sue in Federal Court on Crystal's behalf. Actually, you would not have to raise money. A competent attorney would take the case on a contingency fee basis, if Crystal did have a case.
Why hasn't Irving Joyner filed suit in Federal Court on Crystal's behalf.
The obvious answer is that your allegations about the Durham police are, again, a figment of your deluded megalomaniacal imagination.
Sideny: "Superior Court Judge Abe Jones... ruled that the three charges of contributing to the abuse or neglect of her children would rise and fall on how the jury handled the arson charge. He promised to dismiss the abuse charge if the jury doesn't find Mangum guilty of arson. Judge Jones’ statement makes perfect sense. It’s crystal clear."
However, according to your own legal principles(even though you have admitted you have no legal expertise), this by no means legally established that Crystal was innocent.
I am still waiting to hear what Kenhyderal has to say about all this, after his latest screw up concerning whether or not Crystal was impaired when she arrived at the Lacrosse party.
Kenny said it was stipulated as fact that Crystal became impaired after she was given a drink at the party. He cited David Evans' statement to the police to support his contention.
David Evans' statement did not say that anyone gave Crystal a drink(he admitted he did fix a drink for Kim Roberts/Pittman) and did say that Crystal was already impaired when she arrived at the party.
I think Sid is getting worse. Seriously. I used to think he was just comical, a clown, and a sad excuse for a physician. Now, it seems that his delusional and, frankly, paranoid thinking has grown worse. He thinks there is a group out to get him. He thinks Sister is a marked woman, the target of years and years of evil misdeeds by his (nonexistent) heehaw jihad. He thinks he is standard bearer for redemption and the king of lost causes. Lord, Sid, it would be one thing if there were facts, truths, evidence, and substance to support your theories. But, there is nothing but air and your "sources".....which we all know do not exist.
Mangum lied and you know it. Nifong is a worthless liar, and you know it. Cline is completely incompetent and seriously paranoid, just like you. And, to the eternal shame and disgrace of the Durham leftwing bleeding heart whackos who think Mangum is a "victim", a man is dead because Mangum has NEVER been held accountable for her amoral and criminal behavior.
Anonymous said...
Sideny, if your allegations about the fire in Crystal's apartment are true. then the DPD did violate Crystal's civil rights.
What are you and your gang and Crystal's friends doing about it. Are you all trying to raise money to hire an attorney who would sue in Federal Court on Crystal's behalf. Actually, you would not have to raise money. A competent attorney would take the case on a contingency fee basis, if Crystal did have a case.
Why hasn't Irving Joyner filed suit in Federal Court on Crystal's behalf.
The obvious answer is that your allegations about the Durham police are, again, a figment of your deluded megalomaniacal imagination.
My allegations about the Durham Police Department are right on with regards to the origin of the bathtub fire. Raising money to hire an attorney to represent Crystal would be a waste of time and effort, as the legal representation she would get would be as ineffective as that which she has received to date. Why venture down that same old road?
Of immediate concern is getting the charge of murder dismissed. Once that is accomplished, efforts will be made to see that she receives justice with regards to the bathtub fire.
Anonymous said...
Sideny: "What is clear is that Daye’s comatose state had no nexus to the stab wound inflicted by Ms. Mangum… and therefore, she is not responsible for Daye’s death."
That is for the court to decide, not Sideny.
Sideny: "The comatose state could be explained by medical malpractice or possibly even a hospital homicide". The most likely explanation is that Mr. Daye had a complication from the stab wound Ms. Mangum inflicted on him, in which case Ms. Mangum would bear responsibility for his death.
Sideny: "According to my reliable sources, Daye admitted to police that prior to the stabbing that he had 'dragged Crystal by her hair and slapped her around.'". Sideny, who are your reliable sources. Your repeated refusal to divulge who they are says you are fabricating al this. Have you gone to Ms.Mangum's lawyer with this information?
The autopsy report failed not only to show a nexus between the stab wound and Daye's loss of consciousness and brain death, but it never even mentioned that he was removed from life support, which was the proximate cause of his death. The court cannot determine what the autopsy report glossed over and ignored. For the autopsy report to conclude that Daye died secondary to complications of a stab wound is pure rubbish.
Regarding the information about Daye assaulting Mangum, my reliable source saw that in the prosecution's discovery... which Mangum received from her attorney. He should be aware of it. No sense in me supplying him with a copy.
Thereby, go ye enlightened.
"Once that is accomplished, efforts will be made to see that she receives justice with regards to the bathtub fire."
As a result of the hung jury and the prosecutor's decision not to retry the case, Crystal Mangum is not innocent of first degree felony arson.
Sideny: "My allegations about the Durham Police Department are right on with regards to the origin of the bathtub fire. Raising money to hire an attorney to represent Crystal would be a waste of time and effort, as the legal representation she would get would be as ineffective as that which she has received to date. Why venture down that same old road?"
In other woeds, you can not corroborate your allegations about the DPD and the fire in Crystal's apartment. That suggests you are fabricating those allegations, to which I say, LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!
Sideny: "Raising money to hire an attorney to represent Crystal would be a waste of time and effort, as the legal representation she would get would be as ineffective as that which she has received to date."
That is a copout on your part, an admission you have no corroborating evidence. If Crystal had a case for civil rights violation against the DPD there would be a possibility of Monetary damages to the extent that many contingency fee hungry lawyers would take the case with no money up front.
Sideny: "The autopsy report failed not only to show a nexus between the stab wound and Daye's loss of consciousness and brain death, but it never even mentioned that he was removed from life support, which was the proximate cause of his death."
Sideny I have done autopsies, and I can assure you it is not at all common to list removal of life support as a cause of death. What is listed isthe disease process which necessitated the life support.
With regard to Mr. Daye, that disease process was the stab wound inflicted on him by Crystal Mangum. That would be clear to any knowledgeable person. Deluded Megalomaniacs, who cite only anonymous sources, do not qualify as knowledgeable people.
Sideny: "Regarding the information about Daye assaulting Mangum, my reliable source saw that in the prosecution's discovery".
So who was your reliable source. Unless you can cite something other than some anonymous source you consider as reliable, you are only making another unsubstantiated allegation.
Sideny: "For the autopsy report to conclude that Daye died secondary to complications of a stab wound is pure rubbish."
Sideny, it is obvious you know less about stab wounds and the complications thereof as you do about the legal process. You have admitted you are not knowledgeable about the legal process. You have also admitted you are unfamiliar with the evidence in the bogus Lacrosse rape case.
Sideny: "Of immediate concern is getting the charge of murder dismissed. Once that is accomplished, efforts will be made to see that she receives justice with regards to the bathtub fire."
Why deny Crystal the opportunity to go to court and prove her innocence. Some of your supporters have said that the Innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players should have gone to trial in order to prove themselves innocent.
By that logic, you think Crystal should not go to court because she can not prove her innocence.
I am still waiting to read what Kenhyderal has on his mind about this latest Sideny blog post. I say again, Kenny sure stepped in it(and I don't mean shinola) when he claimed that Crystal became impaired after being given a spiked drink at the Lacrosse party.
Sideny: "Raising money to hire an attorney to represent Crystal would be a waste of time and effort, as the legal representation she would get would be as ineffective as that which she has received to date."
So why don't you and your gang and Crystal's friends try to get her adequate representation. Have you contacted Nancy Grace. You at one time said you considered her a competent attorney. How about Wendy Murphy? What about Irving Joyner?
Sideny: "My allegations about the Durham Police Department are right on with regards to the origin of the bathtub fire."
So prove it in court.
Sideny, go on citing your anonymous reliable sources and fabricating your unsubstantiated allegations. None of that is helping Ms. Mangum one bit.
I say, you do not care a whit about Crystal Mangum. You want another excuse to carry on your vendetta against the innocent falsely accused lacrosse players. Your crusade to force the NC Bar to unilaterally restore Mr. Nifong's license, which you know will never happen is but an excuse to carry on your racially motivated vendetta.
Sideny, why aren't you arguing for a change in venue, since you believe the Durham Courts are stacked against Ms. Mangum?
Sideny: "The day of reckoning for anti-Nifong legal eagles is close at hand. That much is crystal clear."
If you are referencing Crystal Mangum, you are in trouble. According to Mr. Nifong's case file, Ms. Mangum was never clear in relating what happened to her at the Lacrosse player.
Here is something from Judge Judy which in my opinion has relevance. Paraphrased, if one is going to lie, one had better have a good memory. Otherwise each time one repeats one's lie, one will introduce inconsistencies into the story. Someone telling the truth does not do that.
The case file showed Crystal told many different, mutually conflicting versions of what happened to her.
Sideny, one poster to your blog, who seems to have abandoned you, who called herself Justice58, made the following claim(paraphrased):
The dam is going to break and the waters of justice will wash away all those who doubt Sideny and Mike Nifong and Crystal Mangum.
That is years ago. We are still waiting for the flood.
Sid wrote: "The police then closed the door without making any attempt to extinguish the blaze they had ignited, and allowed smoke to damage the apartment while waiting for several fire trucks and two dozen firemen to come to the scene in the middle of the night...."
Now that's what you call a fish story.
Lance the Intern wrote: "Why you [Sid] continue to support Cline is absolutely baffling."
I too am having trouble figuring that out. Tracy is just as bad as Nifong (actually I think he learned some of his tricks from her) and Sid's favorite whipping boy Tom Ford.
Walt-in-Durham
Kenny is still trying to defend his latest screw-up which revealed he did not read David Evans' statement to the police.
There is not one iota of evidence to back up one sorry word of the harr fantasy. Where is the prood? Whomare your sources? Name them. None od us believe this junk sid. You are an embarrassment to the commnity you claim to represent.
Sideny, explain how the word of an anonymous source whom you consider to be reliable establishes anything as fact.
Irrefutable factual evidence establishes that Crystal Mangum was not rape. Yet you insist she was the victim off a sexual assault.
The sexual assault as described would have left evidence. It is not possible that this alleged assault could have happened without leaving evidence.
There's a two word term for anyone whoever believed the Duke lacrosse players raped drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum - mentally retarded.
Hey Sideny, your fan Kenhyderal is taking a severe verbal beating over his distortions. Are you going to step up for him?
Sideny, please comment on Kenhyderal.
He has been contending and continues to contend that Crystal Mangum was raped by men who were not members of the Lacrosse team. He is claiming that these men attended the party, but were not required to give samples for DNA testing.
Are you upset that your fan Kenny is saying the Lacrosse players are actually innocent?
You sure got upset when AG Cooper, who unlike you reviewed the details of the case, said he believed the men were innocent.
Anonymous said...
"Once that is accomplished, efforts will be made to see that she receives justice with regards to the bathtub fire."
As a result of the hung jury and the prosecutor's decision not to retry the case, Crystal Mangum is not innocent of first degree felony arson.
But she is not guilty of first degree felony arson to which Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca tried to convict her. There was no credible evidence against her. Fact is that the police were responsible for setting the bathtub fire.
Anonymous said...
Sideny: "The autopsy report failed not only to show a nexus between the stab wound and Daye's loss of consciousness and brain death, but it never even mentioned that he was removed from life support, which was the proximate cause of his death."
Sideny I have done autopsies, and I can assure you it is not at all common to list removal of life support as a cause of death. What is listed isthe disease process which necessitated the life support.
With regard to Mr. Daye, that disease process was the stab wound inflicted on him by Crystal Mangum. That would be clear to any knowledgeable person. Deluded Megalomaniacs, who cite only anonymous sources, do not qualify as knowledgeable people.
You are an "anonymous" commenter. Does that mean that you do not qualify as a knowledgeable person?
Does any one remember from a long time past when Sideny posted he had found evidence that the Seligman family had paid off Moez Elmostafa?
Justice58 said Sidney had hit a home run with that. It was more of a pop foul that barely got off the bat.
We don't hear of anything of that anymore.
Yet Sideny says "The day of reckoning for anti-Nifong legal eagles is close at hand. That much is crystal clear".
He should have said Crystal Mangum clear. That Crystal is as clear as a dense fog at midnight on a moonless night.
Sideny: "
You are an "anonymous" commenter. Does that mean that you do not qualify as a knowledgeable person?"
No.
What it does mean is that I do not buy into your megalomaniacal delusions.
When are you going to comment on Kenhyderal saying the Lacrosse players were and are innocent?
Anonymous said...
Sideny, why aren't you arguing for a change in venue, since you believe the Durham Courts are stacked against Ms. Mangum?
There should be a change of venue if the case goes to court. The murder charge against Mangum is so pathetically weak that it should be dropped. If the charges against Mangum are dropped, then there's no need for a change of venue.
Sideny: "But she is not guilty of first degree felony arson to which Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca tried to convict her. There was no credible evidence against her. Fact is that the police were responsible for setting the bathtub fire."
That the jury was hung means that no verdict was rendered, that there was no Not Guilty verdict. That she is not NOT GUILTY does not establish her innicence.
That you say "Fact is that the police were responsible for setting the bathtub fire" without offering any credible evidence is evidence of your deluded megalomania.
Anonymous said...
Sideny, one poster to your blog, who seems to have abandoned you, who called herself Justice58, made the following claim(paraphrased):
The dam is going to break and the waters of justice will wash away all those who doubt Sideny and Mike Nifong and Crystal Mangum.
That is years ago. We are still waiting for the flood.
Be patient... it's coming.
Sideny: "The murder charge against Mangum is so pathetically weak that it should be dropped. If the charges against Mangum are dropped, then there's no need for a change of venue."
I present more evidence of Sideny's deluded megalomania. Sideny thinks the case against Crystal is "pathetically weak" just because he pronounced it so.
Sid-ninny, when are you going to omment about Kenhyderal's posts to the effect that the indicted Lacrosse players are innocent.
Sid-ninny: "Be patient... it's coming."(referring to Justice58's years old proclamation of a flood which will drown all the anti nifong voices).
No it isn't.
Neither is the day of reckoning for all those anti-Nifong forces.
Evidence of Sid-ninny's ongoing deluded megalomania.
Sid-ninny: " You are an "anonymous" commenter. Does that mean that you do not qualify as a knowledgeable person?"
Sid-ninny, I am more knowledgeable about autopsy protocols.
"But she is not guilty of first degree felony arson to which Prosecutor Garcia-Lamarca tried to convict her. There was no credible evidence against her."
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The Duke LAX 3 were not guilty of rape which Duke Prosecutor Nifong tried to convict them. There was no credible evidence against them
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By your own logic they are all either INNOCENT or NOT INNOCENT. Which is it?
"Anonymous said...
Sideny, one poster to your blog, who seems to have abandoned you, who called herself Justice58, made the following claim(paraphrased):
The dam is going to break and the waters of justice will wash away all those who doubt Sideny and Mike Nifong and Crystal Mangum.
That is years ago. We are still waiting for the flood.
Be patient... it's coming."
Sid-ninny, it seems Justice58 is no longer waiting for that flood.
Sid-ninny, aren't you going to speak u for your boy, Ken-ninny-hyderal?
Sid-ninny you better help your boy Ken-ninny-hyderal. He has indicated he is getting his information from Kilgo. You remember - Wacko, Quacko, tiny whiny Kilgo. That's Kilgo who used to boast of his extensive intimate knowledge of the Lacrosse case, that he was more knowledgeable than anyone. That's Kilgo who, when challenged to come forth with what he knew, always backed down.
Kenny seems to be really desperate, if you ask me.
Anonymous said...
Sid-ninny: " You are an "anonymous" commenter. Does that mean that you do not qualify as a knowledgeable person?"
Sid-ninny, I am more knowledgeable about autopsy protocols.
If you are so knowledgeable about autopsy protocols, explain to me why there is such a huge discrepancy between the findings of the Autopsy reports of the 13th and 14th.
Sid would have you believe there were 2 autopsy reports. There were not.
The actual autopsy report is from April 14th.
I assume the "April 13th" report he refers to is the "Report of Investigation by Medical Examiner" report.
These documents serve 2 different purposes, and it's no surprise that there are differences between the two.
The RIME document gathers social and medical history of the decedent as well as the circumstances of their death.
The autopsy report documents the cause of death, the state of health of the person before he or she died, and whether any medical diagnosis and treatment before death was appropriate.
Sid, as a former physician, should already know this.
Sid-ninny: "If you are so knowledgeable about autopsy protocols, explain to me why there is such a huge discrepancy between the findings of the Autopsy reports of the 13th and 14th."
How about you explain why you think there is a huge discrepancy in the first place.
Sid-ninny, I think Lance the Intern has explained it.
Sid-ninny, what ever possessed you to think one autopsy would generate two different reports? When I was doing autopsies, part of my surgery residency, it was one report per autopsy.
Then again, what ever possessed you to think you could enlighten anybody?
I see Cline was just suspended. Is that good news? Maybe CGM will never be tried? But of course that would mean she'll never be innocent.
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I can't wait for the installment of Justice4Cline.
Hey Sid-ninny who entitled this latest blog entry "2010 Mangum prosecutor scolded… a warning to Kelly Gauger".
What do you think Judge Hobgood's action regarding Tracey Cline should be construed as?
In all your ranting and raving about unethical prosecutors, you have never mentioned African American Tracey Cline, in spite of her actions against Frankie Washington and Leon Brown.
Sid-ninny, just think of it. Soon you may no longer be able to refer to Mr, Nifong as the only prosecutor in NC history to be disbarred.
Anonymous said...
Sid-ninny: "If you are so knowledgeable about autopsy protocols, explain to me why there is such a huge discrepancy between the findings of the Autopsy reports of the 13th and 14th."
How about you explain why you think there is a huge discrepancy in the first place.
Sure. The examiner of the first report on the 13th, recorded findings as accurately as he felt he was willing... and deferred much of the examination to the Orange County Medical Examiner. He also omitted a lot of important information. Dr. Nichols, who was under the gun to go along with the plan of making Daye's death appear that it was due to Mangum's stabbing, made up injuries and lesions that did not exist when examined earlier. That, therefore, is why the report on the 14th contains more injuries and is unreliable with respect to the damage that could be cause by a single stab with a paring knife.
Lance the Intern said...
Sid would have you believe there were 2 autopsy reports. There were not.
The actual autopsy report is from April 14th.
I assume the "April 13th" report he refers to is the "Report of Investigation by Medical Examiner" report.
These documents serve 2 different purposes, and it's no surprise that there are differences between the two.
The RIME document gathers social and medical history of the decedent as well as the circumstances of their death.
The autopsy report documents the cause of death, the state of health of the person before he or she died, and whether any medical diagnosis and treatment before death was appropriate.
Sid, as a former physician, should already know this.
Lance, although the report of the 13th and 14th of April 2011 have different titles, they refer to the same body, and therefore the findings should be the same. Why would the report of the 13th mention only the lesion to the colon and make no mention of lesions to the left lung, diaphragm, left kidney, fundus of the stomach and the spleen? The logical explanation is that there were no such findings. Furthermore, I assert that it is impossible for a single stab wound by a paring knife that enters the seventh intercostal space in a downward trajectory to produce all the lesions as described in the report of the 14th.
Anonymous said...
Sid-ninny, what ever possessed you to think one autopsy would generate two different reports? When I was doing autopsies, part of my surgery residency, it was one report per autopsy.
Then again, what ever possessed you to think you could enlighten anybody?
You are dealing with petty sematics. There were two autopsy related reports, one of which was titled an investigative report and the other an autopsy examination. Regardless of what they're called, the two reports about the same body should not have the major discrepancies as are found in Daye's reports.
guiowen said...
I see Cline was just suspended. Is that good news? Maybe CGM will never be tried? But of course that would mean she'll never be innocent.
Cline was not suspended because of any actions related to Crystal Mangum. Kelly Gauger is the prosecutor handling that case... and charges against Ms. Mangum, of course, should be dropped. Guiowen, what you should be concerned about is the fact that when the charges are eventually dropped that Ms. Mangum will have spent many months in jail without being convicted of being "guilty."
Anonymous said...
Sid-ninny, just think of it. Soon you may no longer be able to refer to Mr, Nifong as the only prosecutor in NC history to be disbarred.
It is a well known fact that Tracey Cline and Mike Nifong are friends and that she treats him publicly as such and not like a pariah like so many others who lack courage. Although, she is only facing suspension at this time and not disbarment, I would not be totally shocked if the Carpetbagger Jihad agenda called for her disbarment because of their friendship.
Sidney: Superior Court Judge Abe Jones who ruled that the three charges of contributing to the abuse or neglect of her children would rise and fall on how the jury handled the arson charge.
This statement is misleading.
Although Jones initially made this ruling, he later reversed it and provided different instructions to the jury. This was discussed earlier.
Jones sided with McCullough, declining to tie the abuse and neglect convictions to the arson. This reversed instructions Jones had given before lunch, when he said a not guilty finding for arson meant jurors needn't consider the child endangerment counts. As McCullough argued, Mangum's having set a fire is legally distinct from her possibly having committed arson.
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story
/10699652/article-Mangum-jury-seeks-instructions--adjourns-for-day
I ask you to correct your misleading statement directly in your blog.
You should apologize to the jurors for your misplaced sarcasm: Did the jurors not understand what Judge Abe Jones said prior to their reaching a verdict? The jurors understood Jones’ final instructions. You did not.
Sidney: it was crystal clear that Ms. Mangum was innocent of committing any crime,
You fail to mention Mangum’s confession. While I recognize you do not accept it as credible, you have not explained why you reject it. It appears you believe that you may ignore unhelpful evidence as if it does not exist.
In a videotaped interrogation shown to the jury on Tuesday morning, Crystal Mangum confessed to smashing Milton Walker’s windshield with a vacuum cleaner, slashing his tires and setting his clothes on fire because she said he punched her in the face repeatedly.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/12/14/
862539/crystal-mangum-admits-to-arson.html
I ask you to discuss Mangum’s confession directly in your blog. Your failure to discuss it is misleading.
Sid-ninny: "Dr. Nichols, who was under the gun to go along with the plan of making Daye's death appear that it was due to Mangum's stabbing, made up injuries and lesions that did not exist when examined earlier."
No he wasn't.
Sid-ninny: "...charges against Ms. Mangum, of course, should be dropped".
Sid-ninny should have said, "...charges against Ms. Mangum, of course, should be dropped" because I want them dropped.
Sid-ninny: "Although, she[Tracey Cline] is only facing suspension at this time and not disbarment, I would not be totally shocked if the Carpetbagger Jihad agenda called for her disbarment because of their friendship."
The so called carpetbagger is a figment of your deluded megalomaniacal imagination.
Sid-ninny: "It is a well known fact that Tracey Cline and Mike Nifong are friends".
Well, here is a Nifong supporter who is facing a day of reconing. Let's see if Sid-ninny can do anything about it.
Sid-ninny: "Guiowen, what you should be concerned about is the fact that when the charges are eventually dropped that Ms. Mangum will have spent many months in jail without being convicted of being 'guilty'".
Gee, that is what Tracey Cline did to Frankie Washington and you are blithely unconcerned about that.
Sid-ninny: "You are dealing with petty sematics(sic)."
Why are you not dealing with your deluded megalomania?
Wow the heehaw even includes dr nichols. Any day now i expect sidney to tell us that bin laden should not have been killed because he was influenced into his misdeeds by dave evans'mother and the evil media. Lord help,us.
And of course we know that poor ms unconscious cline who has issues with spelling and who apparently got her law degree from Ronco, the makers of the clap-on light, is another victim of the wicked NRA lovin! NASCAR watchin, Bud drinkin, durham trailer trash lawyer gang
Damn sid get some new material fella!
Sid-ninny, if what you say about Dr. Nichols is correct, you would have grounds to file a complaint with the NC Medical Board. Why haven't you and your gang and Crystal's friends not gone to the NC Medical Board?
Whoever complained would have to prove his allegations. You have shown you have no interest in proving your allegations. You expect them to be taken at face value as true.
More of your deluded megalomania.
Hey, Sid-ninny<
When you start your Justice4Cline effort, are you going to include cartoons about super duper Hudson or super duper Hobgood?
That's how you express yourself when people don't buy into your deluded megalomania.
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You da man, Kenny, you da man.
Ken-ninny-hyderal takes great pains to cover his tracks then takes to task all the people who post anonymously on this site.
Sid-ninny, Tracey Cline has done enough on her own to attract the attention of the NC State Bar. She did not need the help of any jihad, carpetbagger or otherwise.
Anonymous said...
Sid-ninny, if what you say about Dr. Nichols is correct, you would have grounds to file a complaint with the NC Medical Board. Why haven't you and your gang and Crystal's friends not gone to the NC Medical Board?
Whoever complained would have to prove his allegations. You have shown you have no interest in proving your allegations. You expect them to be taken at face value as true.
More of your deluded megalomania.
As I have repeatedly stated, I do not fault Dr. Nichols for fabricating injuries to Daye that did not exist. I understand the extreme duress he is under to go along with the program, as he is aware of the persecution that Mr. Nifong was subjected to when he refused to go along with the program and dismiss charges against the Duke Lacrosse defendants. I hope that when his findings are proved to be fabrications that he is spared any punitive or disciplinary action.
Harr Supporter said...
Sidney: Superior Court Judge Abe Jones who ruled that the three charges of contributing to the abuse or neglect of her children would rise and fall on how the jury handled the arson charge.
This statement is misleading.
Although Jones initially made this ruling, he later reversed it and provided different instructions to the jury. This was discussed earlier.
Jones sided with McCullough, declining to tie the abuse and neglect convictions to the arson. This reversed instructions Jones had given before lunch, when he said a not guilty finding for arson meant jurors needn't consider the child endangerment counts. As McCullough argued, Mangum's having set a fire is legally distinct from her possibly having committed arson.
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story
/10699652/article-Mangum-jury-seeks-instructions--adjourns-for-day
I ask you to correct your misleading statement directly in your blog.
You should apologize to the jurors for your misplaced sarcasm: Did the jurors not understand what Judge Abe Jones said prior to their reaching a verdict? The jurors understood Jones’ final instructions. You did not.
Sidney: it was crystal clear that Ms. Mangum was innocent of committing any crime,
You fail to mention Mangum’s confession. While I recognize you do not accept it as credible, you have not explained why you reject it. It appears you believe that you may ignore unhelpful evidence as if it does not exist.
In a videotaped interrogation shown to the jury on Tuesday morning, Crystal Mangum confessed to smashing Milton Walker’s windshield with a vacuum cleaner, slashing his tires and setting his clothes on fire because she said he punched her in the face repeatedly.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/12/14/
862539/crystal-mangum-admits-to-arson.html
I ask you to discuss Mangum’s confession directly in your blog. Your failure to discuss it is misleading.
Thank you for your reference about Judge Jones' reversal regarding the jury instructions. I will look into it. I live in Raleigh and do not get the Herald Sun. With regards to the original blog, I do not alter them once they are posted, even though there are mistakes in them... I will make a note of it, however, in my next blog that covers the topic.
Regarding the confession, that was achieved through Gestapo interrogation tactics... and it is evident from the video and transcript that it was given under duress. It is especially telling when Crystal states, "If I tell you what you want to hear, will you stop?" (paraphrasing)
Sid-ninny: "As I have repeatedly stated, I do not fault Dr. Nichols for fabricating injuries to Daye that did not exist. I understand the extreme duress he is under to go along with the program, as he is aware of the persecution that Mr. Nifong was subjected to when he refused to go along with the program and dismiss charges against the Duke Lacrosse defendants."
Whether you fault him or not, such conduct, if it indeed happened, is matter for the NC State Licensing Board. If you are not going to the board, it is because you can not disprove your allegations.
Mr. Nifong was prosecuted and found guilty by the NC State Bar because he would not dismiss the charges against the innocent, falsely accused Duke Lacrosse players because he prosecuted them knowing he had no evidence against them. He tried to engineer a grossly unethical, wrongful conclusion.
And, Sid-ninny, since you admit that you know no details of the case, since you admit you have no legal expertise, you are not in a position to comment on why Mr. Nifong was disbarred.
I say again, your agenda is to carry on a vendetta against the three innocent men because they were not wrongfully convicted of raping false accuser Crystal Mangum.
Lance, although the report of the 13th and 14th of April 2011 have different titles, they refer to the same body, and therefore the findings should be the same...
Wrong. The "findings" can't be "the same", because the documents are meant to "find" two different things.
That you refuse to acknowledge this shows both your bias and your ignorance.
Yes it was your paraphrasing. Mangum made no such statement nor did she make a statement that was anything even close to the inference made in your paraphrasing/LIE.
I agree with others. Put up or shut up, Sid. You accuse Dr. Nichols of lying, corruption, unethical, (in fact), behavior that would be, if proven true, cause for removal of his license to practice and well as making him subject to potential criminal charges. SO, SID, WHY AREN'T YOU RUNNING TO THE BOARD WITH THIS NEWS THAT DR. NICHOLS IS A LIAR? If I were this physicians, I would be considering an action against you. Apparently he is considering the crackpot source you are.
We all know why you "continue to support Cline". One, she is black. Two, she is big buds with Nifong. Three, for you to admit to her incompetence and hysteria would be an embarrassment to your j4n clown club.
Sid-ninny, I will say this in case you have not read my other comment.
You are admitting to knowledge of a conspiracy to deprive Crystal Mangum of her civil rights. I hope for your sake the Feds are not following your blog because you are confessing to obstructing justice.
"Regarding the confession, that was achieved through Gestapo interrogation tactics."
I hereby evoke Godwin's Law:
the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.
Anonymous @ 4:49 AM 1-29-12 said: "Ken-ninny-hyderal takes great pains to cover his tracks"..... Huh?
Ken-ninny-hyderal, in spite of your user name, your profile is empty. You really do not tell us much about yourself.
Anonymous @ 4:44 PM said : "You really do not tell us much about yourself"..... All that you really need to know about me is that I am a friend of Crystal Mangum and I believe she was physically violated at 610 N Buchannan and, since then, continuously violated by an unfair campaign of vicious lies, deliberately disseminated to discredit the person she is. And, that is not the person I know her to be. My name is Ken Edwards. Dr.Sidney Harr knows who I am. I'm not asking who or what these Anonymous posters are. All I would like, is for them to use a user name so I can keep track of who I am debating.
Ken-ninny-hyderal: "All that you really need to know about me is that I am a friend of Crystal Mangum and I believe she was physically violated at 610 N Buchannan and, since then, continuously violated by an unfair campaign of vicious lies, deliberately disseminated to discredit the person she is."
I ask you this again.
Crystal alleged a DNA depositing rape. Forensic examination did not reveal evidence of a DNA depositing rape. The only DNA found on her person did not belong to the people accused of raping her. According to the experts, it was old DNA deposited weeks before the alleged rape. Both Sid-ninny and Wendy Murphy, not exactly friends of the innocent defendants, accept that the DNA was old DNA deposited weeks before the alleged crime. How do you explain this? Calling the alleged crime a non DNA depositing sexual assault is not an explanation. It is a dodge.
What discredited Crystal Mangum were, among other things, her rape allegation was not credible(according to Sergeant Shelton, yes I was, no I wasn't, yes I was, no I wasn't), there were no witnesses to the crime, there was no evidence of the crime, she could not reliably identify her assailants, she could not reliably identify other members of the Lacrosse team, she constantly changed her story, she alleged she and her three assailants were all in a bathroom at the same time which was not big enough to take 4 adults.
The person who really worked to discredit Crystal was Mike Nifong via his attempt to prosecute the defendants when he had no evidence of a crime.
Ken-ninny-hyderal, consider this:
How did Mike Nifong discredit Crystal Mangum:
Making inflammatory statements, before he had any evidence, that a crime had happened, that it had been racially motivated, and that members of the Lacrosse players had been the perpetrators.
Undermining the Constitutionally guaranteed right of the Lacrosse players to retain counsel.
Undermining the Constitutionally guaranteed right of the Lacrosse players not to talk to the authorities.
Deciding to continue the prosecution after forensic examination of the rape kit showed the crime which Ms. Mangum had alleged, could not have happened.
Conducting an improper lineup in order to have Ms. Mangum identify Lacrosse players as perpetrators, which does fall under the heading of manufacturing evidence.
Concealing exculpatory evidence.
Not interviewing Ms. Mangum until 9 months into the case. Ms. Mangum's recollection of the alleged crime would have been freshest immediately after the alleged crime. Of course that point is moot since forensic exam revealed the alleged crime could not have happened.
And do not forget, Crystal herself opened herself up to discreditation by falsely accusing innocent men of raping her in a DNA depositing fashion.
Ken-ninny-hyderal, digest this:
During the Charles Manson trial, Charles Manson flashed a newspaper at the jury witha a big headline, namely NIXON SAYS MANSON GUILTY.
Was Manson entitled to a mistrial because the jurors saw the headline. No. They would not have seen the headline had harlie not flashed it at them.
Should Crystal be pitied because the Duke Bogus rape case discredited her? No. She started the case by falsely accusing innocent men of raping her.
Ken-ninny-hyderal, consider this:
Most of the material which discredited Crystal Mangum came from Mike Nifong's case file.
Much of what discredited her were episodes which happened before she falsely accused innocent men of rape.
Ken-ninny-hyderal, I say again, Crystal alleged a DNA depositing rape perpetrated by members of the Lacrosse team. Forensic examination of the rape kit revealed the alleged crime did not happened.
Your take on this: a non-DNA depositing sexual assault was perpetrated by people whose existence you can not even prove.
Further, members of the Lacrosse team knew who these people were. Even though three of their number were indicted for the crime, and the DA was determined to convict them whether or not they were innocent, the Lacrosse team chose not to come forward and identify those perpetrators.
And you believe you have created doubt as to whether or not nothing happened.
id you ever take a class in logic? If so, you learned nothing from it.
Ken-ninny-hyderal' you have cited kilgo.
So, let's go through this again. Kilgo would publish that he has vast, extensive knowledge of the Lacrosse case, that he could blow the case wide open.
He never explained why he never went to the police with his knowledge, even when the police, via David Addison, were urging people to come forward.
Whenever asked to reveal such knowledge, i.e. given an opportunity to blow the case wide open, he always backed down.
And you believed he was a reliable source of information.
It seems Ken-ninny hyderal has abandoned the field of battle.
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