justice4nifong: NC Medical Examiner System: Corrupt, racist, and unregulated

Wednesday, November 19, 2014

NC Medical Examiner System: Corrupt, racist, and unregulated

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128 comments:

Anonymous said...: Too long; Didn't watch.

Why don'y you just go back to posting these things as actual articles?

It would save you a lot of time, and would make it easier for those who don't use flash.; November 19, 2014 at 7:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

In the picture shown of the young man who's death is described as a lynching, but was ruled a suicide by the M.E. system, it appears like his hands are bound in front of him. How could he have hanged himself with what appears to be his hands bound together in front of him?

I wonder if the M.E. did a culture test on the wounds they claim were inflicted by ants? Wouldn't ants leave their venom in the marks that can be readily verified by lab tests?

What's next for the Mangum case? Are the pictures of Mr. Daye in the hospital obtained from the evidence on file in the case?

Who are you going to send this sharlog to in order to attempt to get problems of reliability and integrity corrected within the NC M.E. system?

I really question the NCAAP for not supporting Ms. Mangum in this case. This is the entire population of NC put at risk by the actions of the M.E. system, Duke, and the justice system in the Mangum case. Is that why?; November 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

I question one aspect of your letters to various PTB heads. The fact that you seem to not want punishment for the crimes you seek to bring justice to is questionable. Most crimes have set punishments in the justice system, or at the least, punishments that fit the crime. If the justice system, M.E. system and Duke are committing crimes, then don't they too have set 'punishments' for their crimes?; November 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey anonymous @8:01 -- Couldn't watch the sharlog (why Sid continues to use flash when even Adobe abandoned it's mobile flash project in 2012 is simply beyond me)...

I can tell you this -- ant bites don't contain venom.
Some ants can sting -- like fire ants -- and their stings contain venom.

I couldn't find any reference to Lennox Lacy being stung by ants. So there would be no venom in the marks supposedly left by ants.; November 19, 2014 at 9:30 AM
Lance the Intern said...: The autopsy report states that Lennon Lacy:

1) Died of asphyxia due to hanging.

2) There was no alcohol or drugs in Lacy's system at the time of his death.

3) There were no skull, rib, or long bone fractures.

4) The body and clothing showed numerous red ants, and the body, especially the face, upper
chest, arms, and scrotum show multiple abrasions consistent with ant bites.

Nothing in the autopsy report "rules" the death a suicide.

The autopsy summary does state "It was reported that he [Lennon Lacy] had been depressed over the recent death of his uncle"

Just so we're clear.; November 19, 2014 at 9:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Tinfoil:

Everyone within the justice system, ME system and/or Duke are subject to the exact same criminal laws and penalties as everyone else. If you have any evidence any of them have broken any laws or committed any crimes, you need to come forward, file a report and press charges.; November 19, 2014 at 10:42 AM
Anonymous said...: ok - me and what lawyer?; November 19, 2014 at 10:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Hire one that you are satisfied is competent and has no conflict. Otherwise stop whining.; November 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM
Anonymous said...: seriously, you are the one who whines on this blog continuously, non-stop, everyday

you are a jerk par none

you don't even watch the sharlogs and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about on this blog

evil duke troll - such a fine example of duke's esteemed influence

blah; November 19, 2014 at 12:01 PM
Anonymous said...: You are a fucking liar. I haven't been on this board for more than a week. Your claim that I "whine on this blog continuously, non-stop, every day" is a fucking lie.

I demand that you apologize for lying about me.

Dr. Harr, Anonymous 11:35am is a fucking liar.; November 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah right evil duke troll

i'll apologize for nothing

go to the library and watch the sharlogs if you want to actually comment without your consistent whining and trolling on this blog

if you troll me on this blog, you are an evil duke troll

blah; November 19, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Ass-wipe 12:11pm:

I did watch the sharlogs on my computer ( I can't watch them on an iPad because flash is not supported). Yor statements at 11:35 and 12:11 that suggested that I did not watch them are both fucking lies.

You have told three fucking lies about me today. You owe me three apologies.; November 19, 2014 at 12:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney:

The anonymous poster at 11:35 and 12:11 is a liar. I ask that you remove her posts.; November 19, 2014 at 12:21 PM
Anonymous said...: you can forget that since you have been saying you can't watch the sharlogs for more than a week

if you don't know anything about the case and the evironment in which it exists, why do you insist on cursing at people on this blog and trolling them for no reason?

you are the same evil duke troll who has demanded apologies for your fragile ego for over a year now on this blog (that i've seen) - nice try with your new madeup persona

noone owes you anything on this blog

blah; November 19, 2014 at 12:23 PM
Anonymous said...: You are a fucking liar. I have not posted on this blog for more than a week. If I haven't posted, how the fuck could I have been saying that I couldn't watch the sharlogs.

I do understand the case, so your allegation that I didn't is another lie.

I am not cursing at you for no reason, I am cursing at you because you are a fucking liar.

You owe me six apologies for your lies today.; November 19, 2014 at 12:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney:

The anonymous poster tat 11:35, 12:11 and 12:23 is a liar. I ask that you remove her posts.; November 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Anonymous said...: why do you post just like the evil duke troll that you are that has trolled on this blog for over a year now (that i've seen)

noone is fooled by your lies and trolling, but you know that already

you a jerk, plain and simple; November 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Where are the apologies you owe me?; November 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM
Anonymous said...: you'll never get them i assure you evil duke troll it g... tinfoil hat hatemonger blogmonger since you are due none; November 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM
Anonymous said...: explain this:

Anonymous said...

Sid,

The sharlog does not open on an ipad. Can you provide a summary?

October 11, 2014 at 7:38 AM; November 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Too long; Didn't watch.

Why don'y you just go back to posting these things as actual articles?

It would save you a lot of time, and would make it easier for those who don't use flash.

I did try to upload the text along with the sharlog, but I had trouble getting it to work. The transcript is ready for posting, and I will try later to get it posted so you can read the narrative.; November 19, 2014 at 12:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous 12:48 asks for an explanation.

I posted that request when I was on my iPad. Flash is not supported on that device. Today, I used a desk computer. Flash is supported on the desktop.

Also, I note that the post was from 5 weeks ago. You falsely claimed I have been whining every day. I do not post every day.; November 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM
Anonymous said...: so ... what's your point?; November 19, 2014 at 12:56 PM
Anonymous said...: ?????; November 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...: I am not feeling the love.; November 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...: What was your point when you asked for an explanation? You asked a question. I answered it.; November 19, 2014 at 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah right ... ya got anything to say about the sharlog eh?; November 19, 2014 at 1:01 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

In the picture shown of the young man who's death is described as a lynching, but was ruled a suicide by the M.E. system, it appears like his hands are bound in front of him. How could he have hanged himself with what appears to be his hands bound together in front of him?

I wonder if the M.E. did a culture test on the wounds they claim were inflicted by ants? Wouldn't ants leave their venom in the marks that can be readily verified by lab tests?

What's next for the Mangum case? Are the pictures of Mr. Daye in the hospital obtained from the evidence on file in the case?

Who are you going to send this sharlog to in order to attempt to get problems of reliability and integrity corrected within the NC M.E. system?

I really question the NCAAP for not supporting Ms. Mangum in this case. This is the entire population of NC put at risk by the actions of the M.E. system, Duke, and the justice system in the Mangum case. Is that why?

I got the photo of the lynched man off the internet... it was not an actual photo of Mr. Lacy.

I don't think the M.E. did any testing... and I believe the ants were used as a scapegoat. According the mortician, Lacy had indentations on his nose, both cheeks, and chin. Surely X-rays of the facial bones would most likely disclose fractures.

As far as the photos of Daye go, the ones not gotten online were from the records in the prosecution discovery.

I plan on sending copies of the sharlog on disk format to as many people as I can to help rectify Mangum's mistreatment. In particular I will send a copy to the accreditation agency for medical examiners.

You're absolutely correct. The NAACP should've fought for Mangum from day one... or at least when I presented to them information that she was being railroaded and that she was not responsible for Daye's death.

Even in bringing light to the Lennon Lacy lynching, the NAACP is taking an overly cautious approach. They should attack the medical examiner system, point to the injustice against Mangum, and conclude that the medical examiner is unreliable in concluding that Lacy committed suicide.

It seems to me that the NAACP is timorous when it comes to doing anything that might put Duke University in a bad light.; November 19, 2014 at 1:03 PM
Anonymous said...: ... or is going to be all about YOU and your trolling again today evil duke troll it g...?; November 19, 2014 at 1:03 PM
Anonymous said...: I found the Lacy case to be interesting. I read a few articles, but was unable to find a credible source that provided detailed evidence.

Sid may provide a service in raising questions, but Sid lost his credibility many years ago. He has shown repeatedly that he cannot be trusted to provide a impartial summary of the facts.; November 19, 2014 at 1:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Yes, I get that too that the NAACP is not standing up to Duke, the most notorious of racists in the state.

Thank you for explaining that the picture of the young man hanging in the sharlog was not the one you are talking about. That picture was confusing, since his hands are bound in front of him.

I hope someone who is responsible for the M.E. system actually takes responsiblity this time. It is seriously hard to watch what is happening in this state.

What next in the Mangum case?; November 19, 2014 at 1:10 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

I question one aspect of your letters to various PTB heads. The fact that you seem to not want punishment for the crimes you seek to bring justice to is questionable. Most crimes have set punishments in the justice system, or at the least, punishments that fit the crime. If the justice system, M.E. system and Duke are committing crimes, then don't they too have set 'punishments' for their crimes?

I understand your position which makes sense. My approach however is that the individuals who give false reports and perjury do so out of intimidation... that they saw what happened to Mike Nifong when he didn't go along with the PTBs and they didn't want to suffer the same consequences as he did.

The only way in which such a reign of terror can be eradicated in my opinion is if the State Bar reinstates Nifong's law license. Right now, Nifong, as a disbarred and persecuted lawyer, is an example of what can happen if going against the PTBs.

I probably wouldn't recommend true punitive damages for misdeeds by public officials until after Nifong's law license is reinstated.; November 19, 2014 at 1:13 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Yes, I get that too that the NAACP is not standing up to Duke, the most notorious of racists in the state.

Thank you for explaining that the picture of the young man hanging in the sharlog was not the one you are talking about. That picture was confusing, since his hands are bound in front of him.

I hope someone who is responsible for the M.E. system actually takes responsiblity this time. It is seriously hard to watch what is happening in this state.

What next in the Mangum case?

Because Mangum's case was baseless and she was convicted on trumped up charges based on a fraudulent autopsy report and perjured testimony, I am hoping to get the Court to review the case. I don't know the status of her attorney Ann Petersen... but I do know that Crystal was very unhappy with how it protected Duke and the ME while helping to make a case against her. I think Crystal is trying to get new counsel, but I feel her best hope lies with getting the media or the Court directly involved. And I will look into the possibility of filing an amicus curiae brief.; November 19, 2014 at 1:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Then who would you hold responsible for Dr. Nichols' misdeeds that actually got him fired?

Are you sure that Mr. Nifong even wants him legal license back to practice in NC?

Who specifically are the PTB's that you would hold responsible, and what to do about them?; November 19, 2014 at 1:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Ms. Mangum NEEDS council without conflict nor fear of the PTB's. Is that possible?; November 19, 2014 at 1:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You started this blog over six years ago. Other than the fact that Nifong is the only prosecutor ever disbarred in NC (at least until Cline's case is resolved), and that other prosecutors committed more serious misconduct, you have failed to make any credible arguments why his license should be reinstated. You provide your opinion of his character, but you tend to ignore the facts available from the lacrosse case. Are you ever planning to make those arguments or is your intention to rely on innuendo?; November 19, 2014 at 1:27 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Intern said...
The autopsy report states that Lennon Lacy:

1) Died of asphyxia due to hanging.

2) There was no alcohol or drugs in Lacy's system at the time of his death.

3) There were no skull, rib, or long bone fractures.

4) The body and clothing showed numerous red ants, and the body, especially the face, upper
chest, arms, and scrotum show multiple abrasions consistent with ant bites.

Nothing in the autopsy report "rules" the death a suicide.

The autopsy summary does state "It was reported that he [Lennon Lacy] had been depressed over the recent death of his uncle"

Just so we're clear.

Hey, Lance.

From the description given my Lacy's mortician, I would be completely shocked if there were no fractures in the facial or nasal bones.

As you know, I do not trust anything from a state medical examiner with regards to autopsies. The fact that suicide would even be considered is outrageous.

Obviously I do not have access to the autopsy report or photographs, like I did with Reginald Daye. If you could direct me to a copy I would really appreciate it.

Also, does the autopsy report rule the death to be a homicide? By not ruling it a homicide it obviates the need for a criminal investigation into Lacy's death.; November 19, 2014 at 1:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Why should your readers trust you? After all, you are a retired doctor who claimed that the failure to find DNA in and on Crystal Mangum was not exculpatory in spite of the claim by Mangum that her alleged attackers had ejaculated in and on her. You rationalized that ridiculous claim by inventing a new definition for "exculpatory" evidence.; November 19, 2014 at 1:35 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sid,

You started this blog over six years ago. Other than the fact that Nifong is the only prosecutor ever disbarred in NC (at least until Cline's case is resolved), and that other prosecutors committed more serious misconduct, you have failed to make any credible arguments why his license should be reinstated. You provide your opinion of his character, but you tend to ignore the facts available from the lacrosse case. Are you ever planning to make those arguments or is your intention to rely on innuendo?

Nifong, who did nothing wrong in the Duke Lacrosse case, was used to set an example for other prosecutors as to what would happen if they did not go along with the program. I believe that is why prosecutors and medical examiners act immorally, lie, and cheat. They are intimidated to follow the PTBs instead of their own moral compass. Nifong is a symbol of the intimidation, so therefore, once his license to practice law is reinstated, it is my hope that professionals will feel free to act with some independence and not fear retribution for their actions taken in good faith and positively.; November 19, 2014 at 1:35 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Ms. Mangum NEEDS council without conflict nor fear of the PTB's. Is that possible?

I think it is highly unlikely. No one I've spoken to related with Civil Rights groups, including their lawyers, would even do something as simple as write a letter in her interests. All the attorneys that have represented her thus far have all worked against her best interests to protect Duke University and the ME.; November 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr,

Then who would you hold responsible for Dr. Nichols' misdeeds that actually got him fired?

Are you sure that Mr. Nifong even wants him legal license back to practice in NC?

Who specifically are the PTB's that you would hold responsible, and what to do about them?

First, Mr. Nifong has told me that he doesn't want his law license and if he had it he wouldn't practice. The importance of Mr. Nifong being reinstated has to do symbolically... because when it was taken from him it was an act of making an example of him to intimidate others into complying with the PTBs' wishes.

As to the identity of the PTBs, if they wanted me to know, I would.

From what I gather, someone in the medical examiner's office involved in a Cumberland County case is responsible to bringing Dr. Nichols' questionable practices to the attention of the Orange County district attorney. I don't know much more than that.; November 19, 2014 at 1:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

The issues with Mr. Nifong are confusing in that he did not immediately insure that a sound investigation was accomplished in the Duke Lacrosse case in order to protect Ms. Mangum's rights, but instead made the case one to be resolved in the court of public opinion and the media for the most part. He harmed her and MANY others with that exclusion of justice.; November 19, 2014 at 1:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney at 1:35:

So you believe that prosecutors are justified in designing identification procedures that violate all established standards?; November 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney at 1:35:

Why do you believe that a prosecutor is blameless when the police fail to conduct a bona fide investigation?; November 19, 2014 at 1:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney:

Do you believe prosecutors should be able to withhold or hide exculpatory evidence?; November 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney at 1:35:

So you believe that a prosecutor has no responsibility to determine whether an allegation is valid?; November 19, 2014 at 2:04 PM
Anonymous said...: unfortunately he relied on Duke's lies as valid evidence ... go figure; November 19, 2014 at 2:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Sidney at 1:35:

Why do you believe a prosecutor should not be expected to read his file before the case goes to trial?; November 19, 2014 at 2:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous 2:15:

Nifong may well have relied on Duke's lies (Levicy) to proceed. However, Duke's lies were not responsible for the misidentification of the defendants in a fatally flawed procedure.

Duke's lies cannot be the entire explanation. Nifong must share the blame.; November 19, 2014 at 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

Does Ms. Mangum have the detailed medical analysis that you provide in your sharlogs in paper form so that she can use it to assist in her own defense?

Is she relying on you for this information in a form that she can use in the court system to defend herself other than a sharlog?

Is she waiting upon you to move ahead in correcting the Appeals Brief that is currently on file?; November 19, 2014 at 2:28 PM
A Lawyer said...: SS, DD.; November 19, 2014 at 3:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Were Duke's lies responsible for Nifong's unethical and inflammatory statements to the press? Did Duke's lies force Nifong to withhold exculpatory evidence from the defense?; November 19, 2014 at 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Did Duke's lies prevent Gottlieb and Himan from conducting a bona fide investigation?; November 19, 2014 at 5:05 PM
Lance the Intern said...: Sid - You can find a copy of Lennon Lacy's autopsy here.

I thought I was clear -- the autopsy report states that Lennon Lacy died from asphyxia due to hanging.

It does not state that the death is a "homicide". it shouldn't state the death is a homicide. Even Reginald Daye's autopsy report never stated his death was a homicide.

The investigators in each case used the cause of death to determine the cause of death (incorrectly, with regard to Lennon Lacy, IMO).; November 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM
La said...: "The investigators in each case used the cause of death to determine the cause of death (incorrectly, with regard to Lennon Lacy, IMO)."

That should have stated that "The investigators used the cause of death to help determine whether a homicide occurred"

Sorry for any confusion,
-Lance; November 19, 2014 at 6:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Do you also Not believe the Duke medical reports as to what they did to Mr. Daye to cause his death if you believe the autopsy reports in that case?; November 19, 2014 at 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong did nothing wrong! That's a laugh.He knew all along there had been no rape.That's why he tried to hide the evidence of all the other men Magnum had been having sex with but no lacrosse player would ever touch her.That's why there was no DNA or any other evidence.People shouldn't believe something a drunk prostitute says when she's in police custody.Somebody like that probably isn't telling the truth.; November 19, 2014 at 8:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Reality is racist.More than a century of psychometric research has shown that blacks have an average IQ of 85 but for whites the average is 100.When you look at places like Detroit,Haiti,or the nations in sub-Saharan Africa you can see what type of societies blacks create when they are the vast majority of the population.It's not a pretty sight.; November 19, 2014 at 8:29 PM
Lance the Intern said...: Anonymous @6:33 pm:

I'm not sure what you're asking. I believe that the autopsy reports were correct in identifying the cause of death in both instances (that is, in the case of Reginald Daye and Lennon Lacy).

In regards to the subsequent investigation into the death of young Lennon, I believe the findings of the investigators are wrong.

My apologies if I've somehow managed to confuse you on this.; November 20, 2014 at 7:21 AM
A Lawyer said...: Anonymous said...
Reality is racist.More than a century of psychometric research has shown that blacks have an average IQ of 85 but for whites the average is 100.When you look at places like Detroit,Haiti,or the nations in sub-Saharan Africa you can see what type of societies blacks create when they are the vast majority of the population.It's not a pretty sight.

November 19, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Reality isn't racist, troll. You are. Get lost.; November 20, 2014 at 9:34 AM
Anonymous said...: Then the complications are what need to be on trial since there is so much reasonable doubt surrounding the actual proximate cause of death due to Duke's preventable, avoidable, and unneccessary medical malpractice that was the actual cause of his death as documented in the Duke medical records submitted as evidence in this case.

Would You actually accept the type justice metted out to Ms. Mangum for yourself Lance?; November 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM
Lance the Intern said...: "Would You actually accept the type justice metted [sic] out to Ms. Mangum for yourself Lance?

Had I stabbed someone and that person died, and it was determined by multiple medical experts that the stabbing was the cause of death, I would have worked within the system for a plea bargain.

it was an option available to Ms. Mangum, according to Sid. Apparently, he convinced her not to pursue it.; November 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...: It wasn't a viable plea offer than Lance, if there even was one. Dr. Harr says not sure, so was there one made or not?

Lance, you would not have had a medical person without conflict to instruct you of the obvious flaws, discrepancies, and fraud in the autopsy reports compared to the medical reports than. That would have left you ignorant of the lack of justice in what you were accepting for yourself and 'the people'. Your ignorance might save you from being rightly accussed of the crime of accessory to fraud and possibly murder on the part of the medical professionals. Otherwise, being apprised of the situation, probably not.; November 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Why not ask Crystal if she was offered a plea. Sid talks to her, but he never likes to actually get answers to questions he isn't sure will help him and his paranoid narratives.

Or any of you could write her. Prisoners love mail.; November 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Reality is clearly racist.That's why people move to white neighborhoods or nations but no one wants to live where there is a large black population.Even blacks try to move away if they can afford to.; November 20, 2014 at 1:09 PM
Lance the Intern said...: Wow. I'll try to tackle these on at a time.

"Lance, you would not have had a medical person without conflict to instruct you of the obvious flaws, discrepancies, and fraud in the autopsy reports compared to the medical reports than."

I would have had a 3rd party medical expert confirm the autopsy report, just as Ms. Mangum did. I'm pretty sure I stipulated that in my scenario. Are you trying to imply that Dr. Roberts had some "conflict" with Ms. Mangum or someone else involved with the trial?

"That would have left you ignorant of the lack of justice in what you were accepting for yourself and 'the people'"

No, it wouldn't. And, quite frankly, were I in this situation, I really wouldn't be worrying about 'the people'...I'd be worried about saving my own @ss from as much jail time as possible.

"Your ignorance might save you from being rightly accussed of the crime of accessory to fraud and possibly murder on the part of the medical professionals."

What are you even talking about here? Was Ms. Mangum accused of accessory to fraud?

Look -- even if Ms. Mangum wasn't offered a plea bargain, she still could have sought one.; November 20, 2014 at 1:11 PM
Lance the Intern said...: According to Sid, Woody Vann was "seeking to get a plea deal with Ms. Mangum… for her to plea to a felony assault charge in exchange for time served."

He posted an entire blog about it.; November 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM
Anonymous said...: It's hard to tell when Sid is telling the truth or fibbing, but if there was a deal on the table for Mangum to plead to assault in exchange for a sentence of time served and Sid persuaded her to reject it, then I don't know how he sleeps at night.; November 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Lance,

The next line explains what was meant: " Otherwise, being apprised of the situation, probably not. "

meaning: if you knew of the fraud and the possibility that Duke committed malpractice in order to get you framed for a murder you did not commit, especially since it was self-defense in your own home as in the situation as it was in this case - so that you believed you were not quilty to begin with, then you could be rightly accussed of accessory to covering up for the actual 'killer' and the fraud committed in the cover-up by the medical professionals by accepting a plea deal - if it also meant agreeing to the cover-up, as well as accepting injustice for being attacked and assaulted (again). If not in actuality in the court system, then in the court of public opinion, including your own.; November 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "if you knew of the fraud and the possibility that Duke committed malpractice in order to get you framed for a murder you did not commit,"

State v. Welch

"..especially since it was self-defense in your own home as in the situation as it was in this case"

A jury of Ms. Mangum's peers clearly decided that it WASN'T self-defense in her case.

I did not specify any such thing in my scenario.

"..then you could be rightly accussed [sic] of accessory to covering up for the actual 'killer' and the fraud committed in the cover-up by the medical professionals by accepting a plea deal"

"Rightly accused"? By who? Again -- the ME and a professional brought in by the defense both stated that the death was due to complications from a stab wound to the chest. Unless someone else stabbed the victim, there aren't many other places to lay the blame.

"accepting a plea deal - if it also meant agreeing to the cover-up, as well as accepting injustice for being attacked and assaulted (again). If not in actuality in the court system, then in the court of public opinion, including your own."

If accepting a plea deal would keep me from going to f*ck me in the @ss prison, then the court of public opinion be damned.

Especially if, as Sid reported for Mangum, I could plea down to felony assault and get off with time served.; November 20, 2014 at 3:53 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't think the plea deal was offered, but not having time to read the blog entry you reference yet, and not having direct knowledge, I don't know what if anything was actually offered, do you?

The complications are what need to be on trial since they are what is in doubt beyond reasonable in accordance with the law as the judge clarified it to be at the beginning of the trial for this case. You know this already though Lance.

Of course there are other issues as well in doubt, etc., but all these issues are currently awaiting an appeal trial, as you also well know.; November 20, 2014 at 4:07 PM
Lance the Intern said...: "I don't think the plea deal was offered, but not having time to read the blog entry you reference yet, and not having direct knowledge, I don't know what if anything was actually offered, do you?"

I know what Sid reported here on this blog. Are you calling Sid a liar?

"The complications are what need to be on trial since they are what is in doubt beyond reasonable in accordance with the law as the judge clarified it to be at the beginning of the trial for this case."

Regardless of what you think need to be on trial, the only thing that can be reviewed at the appeal are the proceedings that occurred in the trial...And they are reviewing only for errors of law or legal procedure.

"Of course there are other issues as well in doubt, etc., but all these issues are currently awaiting an appeal trial, as you also well know."

If you'd bother to read the appeals document, you'd see that the issue brought up was one of legal procedure -- specifically details from the Milton Walker trial used as evidence against Ms. Mangum.; November 20, 2014 at 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Does the guy that runs this blog still believe Mangum was gang raped in a bathroom that was too small?; November 20, 2014 at 6:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Lance,

Are you suggesting that charges be filed now against the offending parties in this case that have so far continued to coverup the real issues in regards to the medical records and autopsy reports instead of waiting until the appeals process is completed and depending on the outcome of the appeal decision?; November 20, 2014 at 7:27 PM
Anonymous said...: No. Lance is not suggesting that.; November 20, 2014 at 7:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Why doesn't one of you, Sid, Tin-Foil, anyone, simply write to Mangum and ask her if she was offered a plea deal - for Time Served, or something else.

It is funny how Sid likes to debate points, and throw assumptions out there, and then deny knowledge on things he could very easily get an answer to. He says he talked to Mangum regularly - and corresponds with her, it would take 1 line, or 2 seconds to ask her abou

It's further proof he is not remotely interested in the truth, he's interested in stoking his own ego.; November 21, 2014 at 6:07 AM
Lance the Intern said...: "Are you suggesting that charges be filed now against the offending parties in this case that have so far continued to coverup [sic] the real issues in regards to the medical records and autopsy reports instead of waiting until the appeals process is completed and depending on the outcome of the appeal decision?"

No. (Thanks, Anonymous@ 7:29).

How you interpreted anything I wrote here to mean what you stated is beyond me. From your past comments, reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit, so we'll let this pass.

I am still wondering how you arrived at the conclusion that Mangum could be "rightly accused" of " accessory to covering up for the actual killer" and fraud for accepting a plea bargain.; November 21, 2014 at 9:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Let me know when you figure out a possible conclusion.; November 21, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Hint: The answer is explained as before Lance; any more questions on the matter?:

Anonymous said...

Lance,

The next line explains what was meant: " Otherwise, being apprised of the situation, probably not. "

meaning: if you knew of the fraud and the possibility that Duke committed malpractice in order to get you framed for a murder you did not commit, especially since it was self-defense in your own home as in the situation as it was in this case - so that you believed you were not quilty to begin with, then you could be rightly accussed of accessory to covering up for the actual 'killer' and the fraud committed in the cover-up by the medical professionals by accepting a plea deal - if it also meant agreeing to the cover-up, as well as accepting injustice for being attacked and assaulted (again). If not in actuality in the court system, then in the court of public opinion, including your own.

November 20, 2014 at 2:27 PM; November 21, 2014 at 10:52 AM
Lance the Intern said...: "", then you could be rightly accussed of accessory to covering up for the actual 'killer' and the fraud committed in the cover-up by the medical professionals by accepting a plea deal - if it also meant agreeing to the cover-up, as well as accepting injustice for being attacked and assaulted (again). If not in actuality in the court system, then in the court of public opinion, including your own."

Here's a "hint" for you - just saying someone can be "rightly accused" doesn't make it so.

So let me ask in simple terms.

What do you mean be "rightly accused"?

WHo would doing the accusing?; November 21, 2014 at 11:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr:

Would that be considered child endangerment if a parent who duke had issues with took their child (or was taken) to duke for medical services in light of this current case?

Like Ms Mangum now, would it be considered child endangerment if one of her children were taken to duke for medical services - say - if they cut themselves with a knife chopping an onion or something - since they may become dukes victim if duke wanted to try to pin child abuse or murder charges on Ms. Mangum or her children's caretakers as well?; November 22, 2014 at 4:51 AM
Anonymous said...: No. That is not child endangerment.; November 22, 2014 at 5:38 AM
Anonymous said...: I asked Dr. Harr and not you evil duke troll. go back to liestoppers and stop trolling me.; November 22, 2014 at 9:01 AM
guiowen said...: Actually, if you think about it, this could be a very clever ploy by a prosecutor. Scare a defendant, threaten him with life imprisonment, or worse, if he doesn't confess (to a crime he never committed). Get him to agree to a plea bargain. Now, since you have proof that someone else committed the crime, you can charge him with lying under oath, interfering with an investigation, etc. Presto: he's gone for 170 months!; November 22, 2014 at 9:17 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Lance the Intern said...
"if you knew of the fraud and the possibility that Duke committed malpractice in order to get you framed for a murder you did not commit,"

State v. Welch

"..especially since it was self-defense in your own home as in the situation as it was in this case"

A jury of Ms. Mangum's peers clearly decided that it WASN'T self-defense in her case.

I did not specify any such thing in my scenario.

"..then you could be rightly accussed [sic] of accessory to covering up for the actual 'killer' and the fraud committed in the cover-up by the medical professionals by accepting a plea deal"

"Rightly accused"? By who? Again -- the ME and a professional brought in by the defense both stated that the death was due to complications from a stab wound to the chest. Unless someone else stabbed the victim, there aren't many other places to lay the blame.

"accepting a plea deal - if it also meant agreeing to the cover-up, as well as accepting injustice for being attacked and assaulted (again). If not in actuality in the court system, then in the court of public opinion, including your own."

If accepting a plea deal would keep me from going to f*ck me in the @ss prison, then the court of public opinion be damned.

Especially if, as Sid reported for Mangum, I could plea down to felony assault and get off with time served.

To my knowledge, Mangum was never offered a plea deal, but I would've recommended that she reject it because she did not murder Daye... and why should she be saddled with a felony criminal record for something she did not do? Had Mangum had adequate and good-faith representation, she would never had been convicted in the first place. Unfortunately, Mangum's attorneys were more concerned with protecting Duke and the ME rather than having their client acquitted.; November 22, 2014 at 9:19 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Sidney:

Do you believe prosecutors should be able to withhold or hide exculpatory evidence?

No... and I don't think Mr. Nifong did that in the Duke Lacrosse case.

However, in Mangum's recent trial, her defense attorneys withheld exculpatory evidence from her by not releasing the Roberts report for her to see until well into the trial. The Roberts report was the best thing for salvation that Mangum had available, and Meier pressured her jot to use it.; November 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr:

Would that be considered child endangerment if a parent who duke had issues with took their child (or was taken) to duke for medical services in light of this current case?

Like Ms Mangum now, would it be considered child endangerment if one of her children were taken to duke for medical services - say - if they cut themselves with a knife chopping an onion or something - since they may become dukes victim if duke wanted to try to pin child abuse or murder charges on Ms. Mangum or her children's caretakers as well?

That's a good question as Mangum is a target for the media, state, and Duke. I don't think it would be considered abuse to take a child to Duke for treatment in the scenario you presented. However, because of pitfalls which you illustrated, there would be concerns... ergo, I would avoid Duke as much as possible.; November 22, 2014 at 9:28 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Today is a sad milestone... marking the one year anniversary of Mangum's conviction and post-conviction incarceration. Frankly, I am very saddened, disappointed, and shocked that I have not been able to get her freed and her conviction overturned by now. The resistance is far greater than I ever imagined.

However, the fight for justice goes on and I am confident that it will be only a short matter of time before my goals are achieved... Mangum's release and the overturning of her conviction.; November 22, 2014 at 9:32 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does the guy that runs this blog still believe Mangum was gang raped in a bathroom that was too small?

I believe, like Mike Nifong, that Crystal was sexually molested. Keep in mind that Mike Nifong dropped the rape charge, but he strongly believed that something did happen to Mangum in the bathroom.; November 22, 2014 at 9:35 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
It's hard to tell when Sid is telling the truth or fibbing, but if there was a deal on the table for Mangum to plead to assault in exchange for a sentence of time served and Sid persuaded her to reject it, then I don't know how he sleeps at night.

I would've advised Mangum against a plea deal because she was innocent of committing a crime. The only reason she was convicted is because turncoat attorney Meier sold her out. That was the only way in which she could've possibly been convicted.; November 22, 2014 at 9:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous said...

Dr. Harr:

Would that be considered child endangerment if a parent who duke had issues with took their child (or was taken) to duke for medical services in light of this current case?

Like Ms Mangum now, would it be considered child endangerment if one of her children were taken to duke for medical services - say - if they cut themselves with a knife chopping an onion or something - since they may become dukes victim if duke wanted to try to pin child abuse or murder charges on Ms. Mangum or her children's caretakers as well?

Nifong Supporter said...

That's a good question as Mangum is a target for the media, state, and Duke. I don't think it would be considered abuse to take a child to Duke for treatment in the scenario you presented. However, because of pitfalls which you illustrated, there would be concerns... ergo, I would avoid Duke as much as possible.

thank you Dr. Harr for taking the time to answer my question. Despite the abuse I take at this website from the evil duke trolls I will continue to study this case and your sharlogs and hope that someday we can have a durham that is not controlled by duke and the other evildoers who have run durham as long as I can remember and have ignored the concerns of the honest people; November 22, 2014 at 10:35 AM
Anonymous said...: To my knowledge, Mangum was never offered a plea deal,

And, oddly, despite your claims you are interested in the truth, you've never asked her.

Again, since the jury rejected self-defense, and you've identified nothing that you'd have done differently than Meier in the self-defense portion (or nothing admissible, since the "prior record" isn't admissible, and Crystal herself denied the prior abuse), nothing you say about Duke, the ME, or anything else would prevent the conviction for felony assault - only self-defense would do that. But, you'd still have told her to reject that?

If she gets a new trial, what should be done to make sure she gets a NG (which can only be the result of self-defense, not anything with the ME or Duke)?

You are lucky that everyone involved in the case realizes what a joke you are, they don't even bother to respond, and unless you are hiding things from us, no one has sued you for defamation.

And, even Crystal hasn't raised your allegations in a forum that would matter. Your response to the self-defense will be your old canard of "Meier told her to lie" - but if that were true, that would be Crystal's ticket to a new trial - if she went under oath and pushed that, she'd get her new trial. She doesn't because it's false, but you still spout it.

Same with bar complaints - she isn't filing them, you are. Why is that?

You are a complete and total joke, and a disgrace, but you do have fun on the blog, and it's fun poking back at you, but I know you are smart enough to realize that no one on this blog takes you seriously.; November 22, 2014 at 2:02 PM
Lance the Intern said...: Sid- You posted an entire blog entry about Mangum being offered a plea bargain. You are either lying now, or you were lying then.; November 22, 2014 at 3:31 PM
Anonymous said...: “My Water’s On Fire Tonight (The Fracking Song)” is released under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license.

Music by David Holmes and Andrew Bean
Vocals by David Holmes and Niel Bekker
Animation by Adam Sakellarides and Lisa Rucker

Lyrics:

Fracking is a form of natural gas drilling
An alternative to oil cause the oil kept spilling
Bringing jobs to small towns so everybody’s willing
People turn on their lights and the drillers make a killing

Water goes into the pipe, the pipe into the ground
The pressure creates fissures 7,000 feet down
The cracks release the gas that powers your town
That well is fracked….. Yeah totally fracked

But there’s more in the water than just H2O
Toxic chemicals help to make the fluid flow
With names like benzene and formaldehyde
You better keep ‘em far away from the water supply

The drillers say the fissures are a mile below
The groundwater pumped into American homes
But don’t tell it to the residents of Sublette Wy-O
That water’s fracked…. We’re talking Benzene…

What the frack is going on with all this fracking going on
I think we need some facts to come to light
I know we want our energy but nothing ever comes for free
I think my water’s on fire tonight

So it all goes back to 2005
Bush said gas drillers didn’t have to comply
with the Safe Drinking Water Act, before too long
It was “frack, baby, frack” until the break of dawn.

With the EPA out it was up to the states
But they didn’t have the money to investigate
Sick people couldn’t prove fracking was to blame
All the while water wells were going up in flames

Cause it’s hard to contain all the methane released
It can get into the air, it can get into the streams.
It’s a greenhouse gas, worse than CO2
Fracking done wrong could lead to climate change too

Now it’s not that drillers should never be fracking
But the current regulation is severely lacking
Reduce the toxins, contain the gas and wastewater
And the people won’t get sick and the planet won’t get hotter

What the frack is going on with all this fracking going on
I think we need some facts to come to light
I know we want our energy but nothing ever comes for free
I think my water’s on fire tonight; November 23, 2014 at 7:13 AM
Anonymous said...: What the frack is going on with all this fracking going on; November 23, 2014 at 9:40 AM
guiowen said...: Say, Sidney,
Did you notice the NAACP brought in an outside medical expert to look into Lennon Lacy's death? Guess who this examiner is?
None other than Christena Roberts!; November 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Thank you for finally posting the transcript. With that said, there are at least 2 statements that are provably false:

1) "Deborah Radisch released an autopsy report which concluded that Lennon Lacy committed suicide"

The autopsy report did NOT contain this conclusion.

2) "The mainstream media had tamped the story down quite effectively"

a quick google search found news articles (over 5,000) from various media outlets dating back to August. These articles came from sources as varied as The Independent Weekly, WECT -TV6, WRAL, The Root, The Guardian,
Workers World,WWAY NewsChannel 3, Atlanta Daily World, and Uptown Magazine; November 25, 2014 at 8:02 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
Thank you for finally posting the transcript. With that said, there are at least 2 statements that are provably false:

1) "Deborah Radisch released an autopsy report which concluded that Lennon Lacy committed suicide"

The autopsy report did NOT contain this conclusion.

2) "The mainstream media had tamped the story down quite effectively"

a quick google search found news articles (over 5,000) from various media outlets dating back to August. These articles came from sources as varied as The Independent Weekly, WECT -TV6, WRAL, The Root, The Guardian,
Workers World,WWAY NewsChannel 3, Atlanta Daily World, and Uptown Magazine

Media sources have interpreted the medical examiner's report as supporting suicide in Lacy's case.

With regards to articles about Lennon Lacy, a large majority, if not almost all of them you mentioned are dated long after the incident itself which took place on August 29, 2014. The media has done its best to suppress this story which should've been priority in late August 2014.; November 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM
Lance the Intern said...: Anonymous @8:02:

Both the ME investigation report and the death certificate listed Lacy's manner of death as “suicide”.; November 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Say, Sidney,
Did you notice the NAACP brought in an outside medical expert to look into Lennon Lacy's death? Guess who this examiner is?
None other than Christena Roberts!

gui, mon ami. Yeah, I was disheartened to hear that. Heard about it yesterday, and the article about the report she supposedly released made no mention of any conclusion she reached. Extremely poor choice... or brilliant depending on the desired outcome. Roberts is going to go along with Radisch, no doubt.; November 25, 2014 at 8:31 AM
Anonymous said...: To Lance and Sid --

The ME report ≠ Autopsy report
The death certificate ≠ Autopsy report

Words mean things. If you're going to state something, state it accurately, or do not state it at all.; November 25, 2014 at 8:31 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Lance the Intern said...
Anonymous @8:02:

Both the ME investigation report and the death certificate listed Lacy's manner of death as “suicide”.

Hey, Lance. Thanks for the update. I managed to get an online copy of the autopsy and don't recall her specifically listing death as being due to suicide. I do remember that she made a big deal of saying that he was allegedly depressed over the death of his uncle.; November 25, 2014 at 8:34 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous said...
To Lance and Sid --

The ME report ≠ Autopsy report
The death certificate ≠ Autopsy report

Words mean things. If you're going to state something, state it accurately, or do not state it at all.

Obviously Lance, not everyone, myself included, is as brilliant as you. Do you have a link to the medical examiner report?; November 25, 2014 at 8:36 AM
Anonymous said...: The first WWAY news story was August 29, the day Lennon Lacy's body was found.

The first WECT news story was also August 29.

The first Independent Weekly article (that I could find) was September 11. (not surprising, for a weekly).

I could go on, but I think there are enough examples here to disprove your statement that a "large majority, if not almost all of them you mentioned are dated long after the incident itself which took place on August 29, 2014"

It took me all of 5 minutes to find this information. You could have done the same, rather than make your ridiculous statement.; November 25, 2014 at 8:51 AM
Lance the Intern said...: Sid -- I think you'd need to contact the Lacy family for that information.; November 25, 2014 at 8:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

What is the current status of the Mangum case if you don't mind my interrupting current concerns?

Have you thought more about posting the court documents and other documents you use in your informative sharlogs and flogs as the .jpeg files they are after scanning?

Are you going to put together a paper presentation of your medical anylysis you currently offer in flash format for the use of court filings and other communications not in line with sharlog/flog format presentations?

Are you working on a amicus brief?

Is Ms. Mangum getting a new lawyer, or is she going to attempt to file an addendum, etc., on her own?

Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer these questions.; November 25, 2014 at 12:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Officer Darren Wilson - American Hero.; November 25, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah - savior of the middle of street peace as massive crowds burn and loot freely and riot unstopped in those same 'saved' streets cuz he got away with savin' his own ass when he was scared for it cuz he had a gun and a badge and other cops and the justice system on his side - what an american hero!; November 25, 2014 at 3:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Someday you will see it in a history t.v. series on America's Most Epic Fails - how NOT to keep peace, law and order in the middle of American streets - The Furguson Epic Fail, take 1001.; November 25, 2014 at 3:47 PM
Lance the Intern said...: I think that a more skilled, engaging, and community connected officer in Ferguson would have had a
completely different interaction with Michael Brown on August 9.; November 25, 2014 at 3:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Brown was a thug who had just committed a robbery.He got what he deserved.Fat,black,and stupid is no way to go through life.At least the taxpayers won't have to pay for his room and board(i.e prison) like they do for Mangum.; November 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM
Anonymous said...: can you just for once in your trolling history NOT troll on this blog like you do evil duke troll? Just this once - be gone with your thoughts from this blog

... thanks; November 25, 2014 at 5:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Can't we all just enjoy a nice shlog together in the spirit of love and friendship?; November 25, 2014 at 5:42 PM
Anonymous said...: i'm sure most here would settle for simple silence, especially from the evil duke trolls, for right now

a moment of silence in respect for all those whom have passed on ... in infamy ... and justice, or not

simple really; November 25, 2014 at 5:59 PM
Lance the Intern said...: St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch’s father was a police officer killed in a shootout with an African-American suspect. His brother served with the St. Louis Police Department, and his mother worked there for 20 years as a clerk.

He should have recused himself from this case.; November 25, 2014 at 7:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Lance:

The circumstances listed in your post above would apply to all DA McCulloch's cases. That would mean he would have to recuse himself from virtually every case his offciie handles, since almost all criminal cases involve the police.

The truth of the matter is that, under existing law, the Wilson/Brown case was a clear cut case of justified use of deadly force by a police officer.; November 26, 2014 at 8:06 AM
Lance the Intern said...: "The circumstances listed in your post above would apply to all DA McCulloch's cases. That would mean he would have to recuse himself from virtually every case his offciie handles, since almost all criminal cases involve the police"

Very few of his cases involve determining whether a police officer shooting a suspect was a criminal act.

When he has had an opportunity to prosecute a police officer for use of excessive force, he has failed to do so.

He should have recused himself and allowed a special prosecutor be appointed.; November 26, 2014 at 9:09 AM
Walt said...: I see where Lance is coming from. The DA has a close association to the police so it appears that he may not be a zealous advocate that the state needs in the matter.

As a strict conflict of interest under the rules of professional conduct, a parent working for the police in the past is not specifically a conflict of interest.

Still, I think the better course would have been to recuse and let a SP handle the case.

That said, the DA did the right thing by using the grand jury to collect evidence and take testimony. In Missouri, they have the ability to take recorded testimony before a Grand Jury. We do not have that authority in NC.

Walt-in-Durham; November 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...: I see where Lance is coming from, too. However, there is another view that I wanted to air in rebuttal.

Simply having relationships w/ law enforcement and a bias against criminality does not disqualify someone from being a DA, or from prosecuting cops. If it did we'd have to remove just about every DA in the country.

The manner and method in which this case was investigated and presented was entirely appropriate. The system worked exactly as it was supposed to work. This case was no billed because there was no credible evidence that (a) a crime was committed (other than by Mr. Brown and Dorian Johnson) and (b) that Off. Wilson committed it.

Innocent people should not be charged with crimes that did not happen just to appease an angry mob. We should never permit our criminal justice system and its processes to be hijacked and subverted by people threatening violence. I'd expect anyone who followed the case against the lacrosse players to appreciate that.; November 26, 2014 at 11:25 AM
Anonymous said...: In Ferguson the grand jury worked properly.They heard the entire case and decided that Wilson had acted in self-defense.In Durham the grand jury signed off on all of the indictments that were put before them in the space of a few hours.Of course by that time Nifong knew there had never been a rape and Mangum's story was completely bogus.; November 26, 2014 at 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Anybody who knows how old and deteriorated Durham's downtown buildings are could quickly realize that a destructive earthquake in Durham would cause quite a bit of damage (er: clearing the way for a new Durham).

If Duke wanted the fracking stopped for safety and health reasons, the fight their resources could wage over fracking would benefit the health and welfare of the entire world.

Fracking up the world is obviously not an idea that helps humanity nor the earth.; November 27, 2014 at 5:02 AM
Anonymous said...: If Duke was as politically powerful as you claim, NC would have accepted the expanded Medicaid dollars Obamacare offered. That lack of expansion is costing them tens of millions every year.

You are so paranoid you have no grasp of reality.; November 27, 2014 at 9:04 AM
Anonymous said...: What the frack G there you go again with your trolling

Blah blah blah; November 27, 2014 at 9:35 AM
Anonymous said...: seriously

get fracking real

you are probably the troll who posted that post to look like someone else just so you could then troll it too

and if you are not - (which you are since you do just that continuously on this blog) ... now ya know

blah

p.s. duke sucks nomatter - it's their image - duke - the land of 'duke's evil a... suck - and always will' ville

blah; November 27, 2014 at 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...: gobble gobble gobble; November 27, 2014 at 2:42 PM
Anonymous said...: What the frack is going on with all this fracking going on; November 27, 2014 at 2:47 PM
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Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr,

you said on
November 19, 2014 at 1:13 PM:

"I understand your position which makes sense. My approach however is that the individuals who give false reports and perjury do so out of intimidation... that they saw what happened to Mike Nifong when he didn't go along with the PTBs and they didn't want to suffer the same consequences as he did."

***This is the part of the case that is confusing. Did Duke WANT the lacrosse team persecuted in order to create a media sensation and a political push for black democratic voters to be politically galvanized, and therefore and if so, didn't Mr. Nifong actually go along with Duke's PTB political agenda and media campaign to galvanize the black and female democratic political agenda and vote? So therefore, what you may actually be describing is the push back from a republican led lacrosse team to squash the democratic agenda? So therefore, actually what is seen is the PTB's fighting against PTB's and using Duke, Durham, and the NC justice system, (as well as everyone else indiscriminately), without mercy to achieve their political agendas, and/or save themselves from incarceration and/or injustice? ???

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"The only way in which such a reign of terror can be eradicated in my opinion is if the State Bar reinstates Nifong's law license. Right now, Nifong, as a disbarred and persecuted lawyer, is an example of what can happen if going against the PTBs."

***Maybe that is what Mr. Nifong expected all along as a result of this case? Maybe it was part of the 'plan'? ???

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"I probably wouldn't recommend true punitive damages for misdeeds by public officials until after Nifong's law license is reinstated."

*** ??? There would NEVER be a time that 'it' stopped then. All that would be accomplished is everyone will see that it is ok to conduct business as corrupt usual, with no reason not to commit more acts contrary to justice nor civil rights and law in subversion to the greater power of politics and the PTB's.

???; November 29, 2014 at 6:11 AM

Wednesday, November 19, 2014

NC Medical Examiner System: Corrupt, racist, and unregulated

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