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Saturday, March 5, 2016

"Forsaken: A novel" and its perspective on the legal system in the South

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Anonymous said...: It seems harr the hypocritical fabricator is trying to back away from the Ides of March, trying to get folks to forget the wild promises he made.; March 5, 2016 at 11:26 AM
guiowen said...: Maybe he meant the Ides of March 2026?; March 5, 2016 at 12:08 PM
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Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
It seems harr the hypocritical fabricator is trying to back away from the Ides of March, trying to get folks to forget the wild promises he made.

No... the Ides of March is still in play. I'm not going to lay idle until then. My latest megablog includes a book that I've just started to read, and reviews of two books that I have read. What makes this blog site great is that it contains not only criminal justice issues but book reviews, foreign languages (including Latin), and politics.; March 5, 2016 at 6:05 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
Maybe he meant the Ides of March 2026?

gui, mon ami,

No... I meant the Ides of March 2016. Around the Ides of March you, and other visitors to this site, will understand its meaning.; March 5, 2016 at 6:10 PM
Anonymous said...: No - we won't. This latest filing of yours will fail just like the rest because it will still have incorrect interpretations of the law and random, unfounded attacks on people. But you won't post it, and will just move on.

You are sad and predictable.; March 5, 2016 at 6:24 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "Strategies, eh? U.S. Lawyers love strategies."

Just for once, try telling the truth. You can read exactly what I wrote above, but I have reproduced it here for you: "At the beginning, there were four potential defenses in this case:
(1) Crystal lacked metal competency to assist at trial or was incapable of knowing right from wrong at the time of killing,
(2) There was some intervening cause that cut off her criminal liability,
(3) Self defense, and
(4) A good plea bargain."

A lawyer, a highly trained professional works from the available defenses in a criminal case. His, or her education, training and experience tell him what those defenses are. Strategies are means to carry out a defense. Thus, competency is a defense. A psychological evaluation is a strategy. Once Crystal was evaluated for competency both to assist at her defense and to determine if she could tell right from wrong the lawyer knew if he had the defense.

... CONDENSED COMMENT DUE TO LIMITED NUMBER OF CHARACTERS...

Of course a thorough job was done. You just don't like it when a thorough job is done. Crystal first sought a determination of her competence to assist at trial or her ability to know right from wrong. Only an imbecile would overlook that. Second she sought an independent medical examination. Again, only a lawyer who was looking to avoid doing an exhaustive investigation would not order an IME. What you are trying to do is obscure the facts. With friends like you, Crystal doesn't need any enemies.

Walt-in-Durham

Walt,

Strategy 1 on competency was absurd and baseless. The only thing it did was negate the self-defense argument for Mangum. There was never any basis for anyone to question her mental status. She is as mentally stable and competent as am I.

Strategy 2 is the best route to go in defending Mangum... especially since the medical records show that medical malpractice with the esophageal intubation was the proximate and intervening causes of Daye's death -- Daye's manner of death being accidental and not homicidal.

Strategy 3 is a good second best strategy of the four. Clearly she was abused by Daye who busted down the bathroom door and dragged her out by her hair... (Daye should have been arrested, but wasn't). There was no argument over money as initially stated by Daye... What occurred was a one-sided verbal and physical jealous attack spurred by what Daye perceived to be Mangum flirting with the police officer in the parking lot.

Strategy 4 is not acceptable as Mangum committed no crime. Plea deals are for those who are guilty... not innocent. Mangum never would have been convicted had she had competent legal representation. The plea deal offered by the prosecutor prior to the beginning of trial (which included time served in exchange for a guilty plea to voluntary manslaughter) demonstrated the weakness of their case against Mangum.; March 5, 2016 at 6:55 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Dr. Harr:
What "filing" are you talking about? With whom did you "file" it? How is it going to get Mangum freed?

Hey, A Lawyer.

A document was filed several months ago, and if the desired response is not forthcoming, then I will post the filing and relevant related responses. You should know one way or the other around the Ides of March.; March 5, 2016 at 7:02 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid - all you do is ad hominem attacks - in every single filing. You've never been civil, you throw up mistakes of law showing you don't know what you are talking about (I bet the filing still references felony murder), and you make personal attacks against everyone involved, with no evidence, showing you are a delusional, paranoid, loon who has lost touch with reality.

Given that you have failed at everything you have attempted, and every filing in Court, why should this be different? You aren't posting it because you know we'd point out all the flaws in it. Right now, your entire goal is still the emotional abuse of Crystal and convincing her you are the only one trying to help her. You can tell her you've been filing things on her behalf, and you are sure they will work, and can tell Crystal no one has told you otherwise.

You are a sad, pathetic joke, and no one would care except you do this all in an attempt to strengthen your abuse grip on Crystal.

I do not engage in ad hominem attacks, period. I am assertive, but civil. Things will begin to turn to Crystal's advantage around the Ides of March, so try and be patient. Consider, after all, that I (and the Committee on Justice for Mike Nifong) am the only one fighting for justice for Mangum.; March 5, 2016 at 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Walt,

"Strategy 1 on competency was absurd and baseless. The only thing it did was negate the self-defense argument for Mangum. There was never any basis for anyone to question her mental status. She is as mentally stable and competent as am I."

That is like General Custer saying, I am surely going to whip thr Indians at Little Big Horn.

"Strategy 2 is the best route to go in defending Mangum... especially since the medical records show that medical malpractice with the esophageal intubation was the proximate and intervening causes of Daye's death -- Daye's manner of death being accidental and not homicidal."

Another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator, the minimally trained, minimally experienced medical school graduate who was never accepted into residency training, who never achieved medical specialty board certification,who spent an abbreviated post medical school career filing and losing frivolous lawsuits and who is incapable of understanding medical records. It also shows, contrary his claim to be competent is another fabrication.

"Strategy 3 is a good second best strategy of the four. Clearly she was abused by Daye who busted down the bathroom door and dragged her out by her hair... (Daye should have been arrested, but wasn't). There was no argument over money as initially stated by Daye... What occurred was a one-sided verbal and physical jealous attack spurred by what Daye perceived to be Mangum flirting with the police officer in the parking lot."

Another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator.

"Strategy 4 is not acceptable as Mangum committed no crime. Plea deals are for those who are guilty... not innocent. Mangum never would have been convicted had she had competent legal representation. The plea deal offered by the prosecutor prior to the beginning of trial (which included time served in exchange for a guilty plea to voluntary manslaughter) demonstrated the weakness of their case against Mangum."

Yet another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator. harr also repeatedly cals crystal the victim/accuser in the Duke Rape case. It was the Duke Rape Hoax. No crime ever happened. Like his imaginary acolyte, harr is incapable of determining whether or not a crime happened.; March 6, 2016 at 2:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Anonymous A Lawyer said...
Dr. Harr:
What "filing" are you talking about? With whom did you "file" it? How is it going to get Mangum freed?

Hey, A Lawyer.

A document was filed several months ago, and if the desired response is not forthcoming, then I will post the filing and relevant related responses. You should know one way or the other around the Ides of March."

Meaning harr is firing off another salvo of duds.; March 6, 2016 at 2:28 AM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"I do not engage in ad hominem attacks, period. I am assertive, but civil."

Yet another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator.; March 6, 2016 at 2:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 300 days to exonerate and free Mangum and 9 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 6, 2016 at 6:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr:

Why have you not worked with kenhyderal in your attempt to free Crystal?; March 6, 2016 at 8:39 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: A book review about a book you haven't read.

Unbelievable.; March 6, 2016 at 9:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 299 days to exonerate and free Mangum and 8 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 7, 2016 at 2:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Do you intentionally lie, or are you just so incapable of learning you keep repeating the same falsehoods over and over, even after they've been shown to be wrong.

You again talk about the prosecution offering a time-served plea deal and rejecting it. However, the letter from Meier to Crystal noted that Crystal was asking for the Time Served plea, and the prosecution wasn't offering it. You haven't said that statement in the letter was false.

So, which is it: Did the prosecution offer a time served plea, or did Crystal ask for a time served plea?; March 7, 2016 at 5:01 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid,

Do you intentionally lie, or are you just so incapable of learning you keep repeating the same falsehoods over and over, even after they've been shown to be wrong.

You again talk about the prosecution offering a time-served plea deal and rejecting it. However, the letter from Meier to Crystal noted that Crystal was asking for the Time Served plea, and the prosecution wasn't offering it. You haven't said that statement in the letter was false.

So, which is it: Did the prosecution offer a time served plea, or did Crystal ask for a time served plea?

I believe the truth is as Crystal Mangum stated. The evening before the plea offer was made in court, Daniel Meier phoned her and discussed it with her. The following morning in court, after the jury had been selected and before opening statements and out of the presence of the jury, the prosecution presented the plea deal. The court recorder did not transcribe any of the discussion related to the plea offer. Mangum refused the plea deal because she was innocent of any crime, the jury returned, and the court recorder resumed transcribing.

You will note that in the Meier letter he goes out of his way to present a narrative that will make Mangum appear in the worst possible light. Dan Meier is a turncoat who would make Brutus, Judas Iscarius, and Benedict Arnold envious. You can believe Meier if you want, but you might want to check with Spencer C. Young and get his opinion.; March 7, 2016 at 7:46 AM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, I've checked Spencer Young's website - he makes you seem sane, and has about as much credibility as you.

Has Crystal responded to Meier's letter and told him he's lying, or is this more Sid BS?

So, you think it is more likely that in a televised trial, everyone in the courtroom, from bailiffs to clerks to Judge to attorneys to the court reporter all conspired to conceal the fact that Crystal was offered a time served plea and rejected it, than it is that she asked for a time served plea, and the State rejected it - which would never be on the record?

You take delusion to new heights. Can't wait to see the joke of a filing you made - you indicate you will post it after if fails, which you have said is the "Ides of March."

You should go ahead and just post it.; March 7, 2016 at 8:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"I believe the truth is as Crystal Mangum stated. The evening before the plea offer was made in court, Daniel Meier phoned her and discussed it with her. The following morning in court, after the jury had been selected and before opening statements and out of the presence of the jury, the prosecution presented the plea deal. The court recorder did not transcribe any of the discussion related to the plea offer. Mangum refused the plea deal because she was innocent of any crime, the jury returned, and the court recorder resumed transcribing."

Another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator. crytal was proven guilty of murdering Reginald Daye beyond a reasonable doubt. That harr the hypocritical fabricator has doubts is irrelevant. For years he has been demonstrating on this blog he is not a reasonable person.

"You will note that in the Meier letter he goes out of his way to present a narrative that will make Mangum appear in the worst possible light. Dan Meier is a turncoat who would make Brutus, Judas Iscarius, and Benedict Arnold envious. You can believe Meier if you want, but you might want to check with Spencer C. Young and get his opinion."

More fabrications from harr the hypocritical fabricator. What does Spencer c.Young have to do about anything? There is nothing to indicate he has any real knowledge of what crystal has actually done in her sociopathic life.; March 7, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"You can believe Meier if you want, but you might want to check with Spencer C. Young and get his opinion."

This from someone who believes William D. Cohan knows anything about theDuke Rape Hoax.; March 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

Given that Spencer Young apparently thinks Crystal is a lying prostitute who lied about the rape and everything else - you really think people should value his opinion on Meier?

Or do you think he's lying/wrong about Crystal, but telling the truth about Meier?; March 7, 2016 at 4:47 PM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: "[Mike Nifong]...zealously prosecuted what he knew (or should have known) to be FALSE charges of a misguided young woman (Crystal Mangum) in the Duke Lacrosse Scandal."

--Spencer C. Young, January 24, 2013; March 7, 2016 at 5:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr:

Why have you not worked with kenhyderal in your attempt to free Crystal?; March 7, 2016 at 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 298 days to exonerate and free Mangum and 7 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 8, 2016 at 2:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...

"'[Mike Nifong]...zealously prosecuted what he knew (or should have known) to be FALSE charges of a misguided young woman (Crystal Mangum) in the Duke Lacrosse Scandal.'

--Spencer C. Young, January 24, 2013"

I was obviously wrong. Spencer Young is vwry aware of what happened in the Duke Rape Hoax.; March 8, 2016 at 2:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Seven more days until harr's latest salvo of duds.; March 8, 2016 at 4:16 AM
A Lawyer said...: A document was filed several months ago, and if the desired response is not forthcoming, then I will post the filing and relevant related responses. You should know one way or the other around the Ides of March.

Filed with whom? Not a court, or it would already be public. And who else has the power to free Mangum by the ides of March?; March 8, 2016 at 1:10 PM
Anonymous said...: We all know this is another failed effort by Sid. My guess is that he won't ever post what he filed, he will just say that it didn't work, and he will try again, and rest assured she will be freed soon!; March 8, 2016 at 2:14 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous A Lawyer said...
A document was filed several months ago, and if the desired response is not forthcoming, then I will post the filing and relevant related responses. You should know one way or the other around the Ides of March.

Filed with whom? Not a court, or it would already be public. And who else has the power to free Mangum by the ides of March?

Hey, A Lawyer.

I don't think I said that Mangum would be freed and/or exonerated by the Ides of March, but rather that a positive step towards those goals would be evident by then. Keep tuned.; March 8, 2016 at 5:25 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

I have just completed the narrative for my next sharlog, however it would take me approximately three weeks to produce it. Instead, I could make it into a megablog in a fraction of that time... Maybe even have it uploaded as early as tomorrow the 9th of March. So I believe that in the future I will be more inclined to produce megablogs rather than sharlogs as the megablogs require much less effort and time than sharlogs. That way, I can cover more topics and post more frequently. My next megablog will hopefully be ready to post within 48 hours... or less.

Also, those without Flash compatible devices will be able to view them.

As you were.; March 8, 2016 at 5:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Hey, A Lawyer.

I don't think I said that Mangum would be freed and/or exonerated by the Ides of March, but rather that a positive step towards those goals would be evident by then. Keep tuned."

harr the hypocritical fabricator backs down again and tries to institutepersonal posterior camouflage; March 8, 2016 at 5:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"HEY, EVERYBODY... LISTEN UP!
AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!

I have just completed the narrative for my next sharlog, however it would take me approximately three weeks to produce it. Instead, I could make it into a megablog in a fraction of that time... Maybe even have it uploaded as early as tomorrow the 9th of March. So I believe that in the future I will be more inclined to produce megablogs rather than sharlogs as the megablogs require much less effort and time than sharlogs. That way, I can cover more topics and post more frequently. My next megablog will hopefully be ready to post within 48 hours... or less."

No how he describes it, harr the hypocritical fabricator publishes another delusional screed.; March 8, 2016 at 5:33 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
We all know this is another failed effort by Sid. My guess is that he won't ever post what he filed, he will just say that it didn't work, and he will try again, and rest assured she will be freed soon!

I don't bluff. If the need arises, that is my efforts are not rewarded, then you can rest assured that I will post my filing. On the other hand, if my objectives in filing the document are met, then there would be no reason for me to publish the filing. We shall see what we shall see.; March 8, 2016 at 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"I don't bluff. If the need arises, that is my efforts are not rewarded, then you can rest assured that I will post my filing. On the other hand, if my objectives in filing the document are met, then there would be no reason for me to publish the filing. We shall see what we shall see."

Which is a way that harr the hypocritical fabricator can make a claim, without proving his claim is genuine. It is a dodge, in other words.; March 8, 2016 at 5:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 297 days to exonerate and free Mangum and 6 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 9, 2016 at 3:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid ... you bluff all the time - you keep saying you will destroy Duke, and free Crystal and the rest - we all know that's nothing but bluff.; March 9, 2016 at 5:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 296 days to exonerate and free Mangum and 5 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 10, 2016 at 3:03 AM
Anonymous said...: 5 days before another empty promise from harr the hypocritical fabricator comes to non fruition.; March 10, 2016 at 3:57 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid ... you bluff all the time - you keep saying you will destroy Duke, and free Crystal and the rest - we all know that's nothing but bluff.

Those are not bluffs. The objectives have just not yet been accomplished... but they will be. Keep in mind, the Roman empire was not built in a day.; March 10, 2016 at 4:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Rome wasn't built in a day, but you've failed at everything you do, and continue to lie.

Answer the question on the plea: Was Meier lying in his letter to Crystal? Why doesn't Crystal call Meier out on these alleged lies herself? Instead she hides behind you, who have no problems lying.

You are a sad, abusive joke. I just hope you find something else to obsess about soon and leave Crystal alone.

I imagine it's not a coincidence that the Court of Appeals issues opinions on the Ides of March - but we already know they can't do anything to free Mangum.; March 10, 2016 at 4:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Those are not bluffs. The objectives have just not yet been accomplished... but they will be. Keep in mind, the Roman empire was not built in a day."

harr the hypocritical fabricator says, if he accomplishes what he wanted to accomplish by his latest filing, he will not have to publish it, that he will publish it if he fails to accomplish his goal.

Which sets him up to claim, he accomplished his objective without having to prove it.

Which indicates his latest filing is but another bluff.; March 10, 2016 at 5:08 AM
Fake guiowen said...: Remember, it took 17 years from Caesar´s assassination (year 44) to the proclamation of Augustus as emperor (year 27). You cannot expect to get Crystal out in less than 17 years from her incarceration in 2011.
Cal us back in 2028!; March 10, 2016 at 6:27 AM
Anonymous said...: When speaking about bluffs, objectives and failures, let's not forget why Sid started this website oh so many years ago: to get Mike Nifong's law license restored. Sid was unable to make any progress towards accomplishing his stated goal and eventually abandoned it altogether. Nifong remains disbarred and disgraced to this day and his chances of ever having his law license restored are nil.

With friends like Sid, Nifong needs no enemies.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 10, 2016 at 6:30 AM
Walt said...: Abe Froman wrote: "With friends like Sid, Nifong needs no enemies."

Ding-Ding-Ding, Ladies and Gentlemen, We Have A Winner!"

Walt-in-Durham; March 10, 2016 at 6:34 AM
kenhyderal said...: With enemies like Rae Evans former DA Mike Nifong needs friends like Dr. Harr and Investigative Journalist and Author William Cohan; March 10, 2016 at 9:15 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"With enemies like Rae Evans former DA Mike Nifong needs friends like Dr. Harr and Investigative Journalist and Author William Cohan"

kenny hissy fit, as is his willfully delusional wont, gets it wrong. Corrupt nifong who wrongfully prosecuted David Evans for a crime which never happened made himself Rae Evans' enemy. And if corrupt nifong's friends are people like harr the hypocritical fabricator and william cohan the less than knowledgeable, deluded, malicious author of a work of fiction based on the Duke Rape Hoax(not the Duke rape case but the Duke Rape Hoax as crystal mangum fabricated the rape story), corrupt nifong is really hard up for friendship.

kenny hissy fit, provide evidence that crystal was raped. The finding of male dna on her person after the party of 13/14 March means onlty 1) she engaged in sex with multiple males and 2) that not all her contacts with males were documented.; March 10, 2016 at 10:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny:

How have Sid and Cohan helped the disbarred, disgraced, bankrupt and incarcerated former DA Nifong? Nifong certainly hasn't benefitted from their efforts. He is still disbarred, unemployed and bankrupt. His reputation is still in tatters, and his name is still synonymous with gross prosecutorial misconduct.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 10, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Darryl Howard.; March 10, 2016 at 12:00 PM
fake guiowen said...: Nifong, though disbarred, is still receiving something like 100 grand per year. He will therefore make no effort to get his license back. Anyone who thinks he can get his license back without any effort on his part is grossly misguided.; March 10, 2016 at 12:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong makes a little less than $5,000/mo. When you throw in his wife's salary, their household income is about $9,200/mo.

http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2008/01/14/daily26.html

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 10, 2016 at 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Dr. Harr:

You are ignoring my question.

Why have you not worked with kenhyderal in your attempt to free Crystal? Do you find kenhyderal to be nothing more than a master debater, as has been suggested by several posters on your blog?; March 10, 2016 at 4:22 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: " The finding of male dna on her person after the party of 13/14 March means onlty 1) she engaged in sex with multiple males and 2) that not all her contacts with males were documented........................(1) replace "engaged in" with "had" and add the word nonconsensual (2) replace "that not all her contacts" with "not one of her nonconsensual contacts with"; March 10, 2016 at 8:39 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Anonymous said: ' The finding of male dna on her person after the party of 13/14 March means onlty 1) she engaged in sex with multiple males and 2) that not all her contacts with males were documented........................(1) replace "engaged in" with "had" and add the word nonconsensual (2) replace "that not all her contacts" with "not one of her nonconsensual contacts with'"

kenny hissy fit again, willfully, gets it wrong.

For his version of points one and two to be valid, he has to establish that the male dna found on the rape kit was deposited at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006. kenny hissy fit can not establish that the dna was actually deposited at the lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006. The best he can come up with is, it could have been.

Again, crystal alleged a violent gang rape in which multiple males assaulted her and deposited material on her. The physical exam at the DUMC ER showed NO evidence of sexual trauma. The failure to detect alkaline phosphatase on the rape kit is evidence that no semen was deposited on her prior to her exam at DUMC. Again the best he can come up with is, it could have been.

Which means only, kenny hissy fit demonstrates again he is nothing more than an ignorant guilt presuming racist.; March 11, 2016 at 2:52 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit, let's put it a little more succinctly. Establish that the male dna found on the rape kit taken from crystal at the DUMC ER was deposited at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006.; March 11, 2016 at 3:17 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 295 days to exonerate and free Mangum and 4 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 11, 2016 at 3:58 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid and Kenny,

Were either of you interviewed by ESPN for the documentary on Duke Lacrosse airing this weekend? We know Sid doesn't know much about that case, so probably not him, but Kenny proclaims to be an expert on the case - so Kenny, we gonna see you?; March 11, 2016 at 5:06 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "kenny hissy fit, let's put it a little more succinctly. Establish that the male dna found on the rape kit taken from crystal at the DUMC ER was deposited at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006"...................... You're being disingenuous. You know deposition of DNA can not be timed. As you say, "it could of been" and I believe it was. You can't convict on "could have been" so the perpetrators were able to walk.; March 11, 2016 at 8:55 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

Anonymous said: "kenny hissy fit, let's put it a little more succinctly. Establish that the male dna found on the rape kit taken from crystal at the DUMC ER was deposited at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006"......................"

"You're being disingenuous."

No, once again you are being incredibly stupid.

"You know deposition of DNA can not be timed."

Which means it can not be established that the dna detected on crystal's rape kit was deposited at the Duke Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006. So you are a guilt presuming racist.

"As you say, 'it could of been' and I believe it was."

Which which is another admission you are a guilt presuming racist.

"You can't convict on 'could have been' so the perpetrators were able to walk."

Irrelevant statement, indicative again of your incredible stupidity and your racist guilt presuming attitude. As there was no crime, there were no perpetrators.; March 11, 2016 at 10:54 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

You distort what I said. I quoted you as saying a crime could have happened. To be more specific I said, when challenged to provide evidence of a crime, the best you can come up with is is, it could have happened. That is not evidence of any crime. I have been saying there was no crime happened.

You are lacking the intelligence to deliberately distort what I said. Ergo, you can not comprehend what I said.

What else can one expect from someone like you.; March 11, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"You know deposition of DNA can not be timed."

So, kenny hissy fit, the real question is, why are YOU incapable of comprehending the significance of that statement, YOUR statement?; March 11, 2016 at 11:08 AM
Walt said...: kenhyderal wrote: "You know deposition of DNA can not be timed. As you say, "it could of been" and I believe it was."

The more likely explanation is the other deposits of DNA were made by Crystal's various in-call clients on the days preceding the lacrosse party. Especially since none of the samples were from anyone who attended the party.

"You can't convict on "could have been""

Amazing, you finally admit there is a standard of proof beyond your belief.

"... so the perpetrators were able to walk."

That's a big rhetorical jump. You assume that there was some sort of non-consensual activity. The more likely explanation is Crystal was a busy escort who never bothered to clean herself.

Walt-in-Durham; March 11, 2016 at 12:53 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sid and Kenny,

Were either of you interviewed by ESPN for the documentary on Duke Lacrosse airing this weekend? We know Sid doesn't know much about that case, so probably not him, but Kenny proclaims to be an expert on the case - so Kenny, we gonna see you?

After I learned that ESPN had contacted Crystal requesting an interview, I did my best to contact Martina Zenovich and Paula Lavign so that I could discuss what has transpired to her as a result of the Duke Lacrosse case... in other words, the vendetta-driven trumped up murder charge. Paula denied that she was working with the project and Martina or no one at ESPN ever contacted me. So I had zilch input into their documentary, but not for my lack of trying. More to the point, ESPN did not want to hear the truth.; March 11, 2016 at 7:01 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dr. Harr:

You are ignoring my question.

Why have you not worked with kenhyderal in your attempt to free Crystal? Do you find kenhyderal to be nothing more than a master debater, as has been suggested by several posters on your blog?

I don't ignore questions. Have been very busy working on my megablog. It takes priority over responding to comments as I want to get it posted as quickly as possible.

If kenhyderal resided in Raleigh or Durham I would definitely make an attempt to meet and work with him on Mangum's case. My understanding is that he lives in Canada, so it is therefore not that easy to work with him, as much as I would definitely value his contributions.; March 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kenny:

How have Sid and Cohan helped the disbarred, disgraced, bankrupt and incarcerated former DA Nifong? Nifong certainly hasn't benefitted from their efforts. He is still disbarred, unemployed and bankrupt. His reputation is still in tatters, and his name is still synonymous with gross prosecutorial misconduct.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Abe, as I have repeatedly stated, "The Roman Empire was not built in one day." Patience my friend, and thanks for the update reminders.; March 11, 2016 at 7:08 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Fake guiowen said...
Remember, it took 17 years from Caesar´s assassination (year 44) to the proclamation of Augustus as emperor (year 27). You cannot expect to get Crystal out in less than 17 years from her incarceration in 2011.
Cal us back in 2028!

Thanks for the history lesson, but Crystal will be freed and exonerated in a matter of weeks... months at the most. The turning point will come around the Ides of March. You'll see.; March 11, 2016 at 7:14 PM
kenhyderal said...: Walt said: The more likely explanation is the other deposits of DNA were made by Crystal's various in-call clients on the days preceding the lacrosse party. Especially since none of the samples were from anyone who attended the party............. Crystal did not engage in sexual activity with any of the clients, she was booked to perform for, prior to her ill-fated attendance at The Duke Lacrosse Party. She gave an hour by hour account of her activity in the days prior to her claimed sexual assault. Her Agency kept records of all her bookings. Your disgusting remarks about her show that although more refined then the racists that often post here, you demonstrate you have a totally unfounded visceral hatred of Crystal and have bought in completely to the lies the Duke Lacrosse Defence propagated in order to destroy the credibility of her claim; March 11, 2016 at 7:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"After I learned that ESPN had contacted Crystal requesting an interview, I did my best to contact Martina Zenovich and Paula Lavign so that I could discuss what has transpired to her as a result of the Duke Lacrosse case... in other words, the vendetta-driven trumped up murder charge."

As there was no vendetta against crystal as a result of the Duke Rape hoax, i.e. the trumped up charges of rape filed against the innocent, wrongfully accused Lacrosse players, and no trumped up charge of murder against crystal, these are more fabrications from harr the hypocritical fabricator.

"Paula denied that she was working with the project and Martina or no one at ESPN ever contacted me."

Which means they are astute enough to recognize that harr is but a hypocritical fabricator.

"So I had zilch input into their documentary, but not for my lack of trying. More to the point, ESPN did not want to hear the truth."

Another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator. ESPN knew the truth and harr tries to distort the truth.; March 12, 2016 at 2:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"I don't ignore questions."

Yes you do.

"Have been very busy working on my megablog. It takes priority over responding to comments as I want to get it posted as quickly as possible."

In other words, your priority is posting more hypocritical fabrications.

"If kenhyderal resided in Raleigh or Durham I would definitely make an attempt to meet and work with him on Mangum's case. My understanding is that he lives in Canada, so it is therefore not that easy to work with him, as much as I would definitely value his contributions."

kenny hissy fit is probably another one of your fabrications, a nechanism for you to try and create the illusion that people believe you.; March 12, 2016 at 2:59 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Walt said: The more likely explanation is the other deposits of DNA were made by Crystal's various in-call clients on the days preceding the lacrosse party. Especially since none of the samples were from anyone who attended the party............."

"Crystal did not engage in sexual activity with any of the clients, she was booked to perform for, prior to her ill-fated attendance at The Duke Lacrosse Party."

The dna evidence, however, says she did engage in sex with multiple other males at various times, and there was no evidence that this sex was forced upon her at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 March 2006.

"She gave an hour by hour account of her activity in the days prior to her claimed sexual assault. Her Agency kept records of all her bookings."

However, as the dna evidence shows, it was not a complete account of all her activity with other men. You certainly have not documented it was.

"Your disgusting remarks about her show that although more refined then the racists that often post here, you demonstrate you have a totally unfounded visceral hatred of Crystal"

No, it shows that Walt is more aware of what crystal was doing with her life than you are.

"and have bought in completely to the lies the Duke Lacrosse Defence propagated in order to destroy the credibility of her claim".

And as the lawyers who defended the innocent, wrongfully accused Lacrosse players never propagated any lies about crystal, this statement of yours is meaningless. The only lies propagated during the Duke rape hoax were the lies crystal told about being raped. She continued, with the help of her enablers, to propagate said lies even after she was discredited.; March 12, 2016 at 3:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 294 days to exonerate and free Mangum and just 3 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 12, 2016 at 5:30 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit, let's quantify this, YOUR claim that a rape of crystal could have happened at the Lacrosse party on the night of 13/14 2006.

Consider everything. Again, crystal alleged a brutal gang rape in which multiple males attacked her, penetrated her, left their material on her. The medical exam at the DUMC ER showed no evidence of the kind of trauma that kind of rape would have left. Testing of the rape kit showed no evidence of the deposition of any male bodily fluids on her person. The testing done by DNA Security revealed the only dna found on her person did not match the dna of the people she accused of raping her.

The chance that it could have happened, considering all of that might be 1 in 10,000 at most. Which means that the chances it did not happen would have been 9,999 in 10,000.

The evidence is overwhelming that she was not raped.; March 12, 2016 at 6:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous 6:19 AM states: The chance that it could have happened, considering all of that might be 1 in 10,000 at most. Which means that the chances it did not happen would have been 9,999 in 10,000.

In other words, Anonymous 6:19 AM concedes that Kenny wins the master debate. It is theoretically possible, even if highly remote, that Magnum was raped by mystery rapists at the party.; March 12, 2016 at 10:30 AM
Walt said...: Kenhyderal wrote: "Crystal did not engage in sexual activity with any of the clients, she was booked to perform for, prior to her ill-fated attendance at The Duke Lacrosse Party. She gave an hour by hour account of her activity in the days prior to her claimed sexual assault. Her Agency kept records of all her bookings. Your disgusting remarks about her show that although more refined then the racists that often post here, you demonstrate you have a totally unfounded visceral hatred of Crystal and have bought in completely to the lies the Duke Lacrosse Defence propagated in order to destroy the credibility of her claim "

My review of the case is based on the facts - discreet DNA samples, DNA matches, or lack there of, witness statements and the physical evidence. Crystal's claim that she did not have sex with any of her appointments prior to the lacrosse party simply does not bear up to the circumstantial evidence. To believe that, you have to believe her very much self-interested statement and disregard the statements of others who either have no interest in the case, or gave statements against their penal interest. Of course Crystal would claim she was only "performing" for her appointments. To do otherwise would implicate her in various acts of prostitution. Her version is not credible.

Let me make it clear to you. Crystal lied. She lied about the alleged rape. She lied about people whom she alleged did it. She is a false accuser. She undermines the legitimate claims of all women who are raped.

Walt-in-Durham; March 12, 2016 at 12:56 PM
kenhyderal said...: Walt said To believe that, you have to believe her very much self-interested statement and disregard the statements of others who either have no interest in the case, or gave statements against their penal interest. Of course Crystal would claim she was only "performing" for her appointments. To do otherwise would implicate her in various acts of prostitution. Her version is not credible.
Let me make it clear to you. Crystal lied. She lied about the alleged rape. She lied about people whom she alleged did it. She is a false accuser. She undermines the legitimate claims of all women who are raped"..................................... Enlighten me Walt. Who are these persons who gave evidence that Crystal engaged in sexual activity with clients? Only one client who hired Crystal within the relevant time frame was interviewed. He told Police he had no physical contact with Crystal, who he hired through her Agency. As is his right, he did refuse to voluntarily provide a DNA sample. No warrant was sought. Crystal did not lie about the persons she identified on the totally unprofessional, flawed photo line-up. She simply made a mistake in identifying her perpetrators; something that is very common as you undoubtedly are aware of. What undermines the legitimate claims of rape victim is the common but highly immoral defence strategy of trashing a victim's reputation. Because Crystal worked for an Escort Agency while attending College she was a particularly easy target for this.; March 12, 2016 at 1:31 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Mangum was a known prostitute who lied about being raped. Those are the facts and they are not in dispute. Lying about the facts doesn't change them, and it certainly does not help Mangum in any way. It just makes you a liar and someone who is not to be taken seriously.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 12, 2016 at 3:07 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe: That Crystal engaged in prostitution is completely untrue. Let me assure you, the Duke Lacrosse Defence Team spent a great deal of effort to find evidence of this. Had they found it, rest assured, they would have trumpeted it far and wide. When they did not, they resorted to slander and innuendo in order to promote such a notion. People, like you, have been taken in. Those who tell you they known she is a prostitute are the ones who are lying. They know no such thing.; March 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Abe: That Crystal engaged in prostitution is completely untrue."

There is evidence that is true. It was cited in books about the case, Rush to Injustice,It's Not About the Truth, and Until Proven Innocent.

"Let me assure you, the Duke Lacrosse Defence Team spent a great deal of effort to find evidence of this."

This is obviously a lie.

"Had they found it, rest assured, they would have trumpeted it far and wide."

Except they never searched for it.

"When they did not, they resorted to slander and innuendo in order to promote such a notion."

Another lie.

"People, like you, have been taken in. Those who tell you they known she is a prostitute are the ones who are lying. They know no such thing."

Interesting comment considering the commenter has demonstrated on multiple occasions he is not knowledgeable.; March 12, 2016 at 4:22 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

Walt said To believe that, you have to believe her very much self-interested statement and disregard the statements of others who either have no interest in the case, or gave statements against their penal interest. Of course Crystal would claim she was only "performing" for her appointments. To do otherwise would implicate her in various acts of prostitution. Her version is not credible.
Let me make it clear to you. Crystal lied. She lied about the alleged rape. She lied about people whom she alleged did it. She is a false accuser. She undermines the legitimate claims of all women who are raped"....................................."

"Enlighten me Walt. Who are these persons who gave evidence that Crystal engaged in sexual activity with clients?"

Why don't you provide us with evidence she was rapwed. Inyour words, the timing of the deposition of the dna found on crystal's rape kit can not be determined. The finding of that dna does not establish rae. The finding of that dna establishes nothing other than crystal engaged in sex with unknown men

"Only one client who hired Crystal within the relevant time frame was interviewed. He told Police he had no physical contact with Crystal, who he hired through her Agency. As is his right, he did refuse to voluntarily provide a DNA sample. No warrant was sought."

The dna of each and every Lacrosse team member ordered to provide dna samples did not match the dna recovered from crystal's person. Yet corrupt da nifong sought indictments against them. You doo not find that at least inconsistent. You have a distorted sense of justice.

"Crystal did not lie about the persons she identified on the totally unprofessional, flawed photo line-up."

Yes she did.

"She simply made a mistake in identifying her perpetrators; something that is very common as you undoubtedly are aware of."

Youadmit that the identifications she made were not reliable.You admit,therefore, that corrupt nifong sought indictments on the basis of unreliable evidece. You have said you believe da nifong proceeded to charge the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players because he felt he had enough evidece to proceed. I say again. Your concept of justice is distorted.

"What undermines the legitimate claims of rape victim is the common but highly immoral defence strategy of trashing a victim's reputation."

Crystal trashed her own reputation years before she lied about being raped in 2006, when she stole the cab in 2002. Then she confirmed her reputation as a liar when, in her pathetic joke of a memoir, she tried to pass off a fabricated account of the incident as the truth. What actually happened is, nifong failed in his attempt to wrongfully prosecute the menhe wrongfully accused and crystal's actual sordid history became public knowledge.

"Because Crystal worked for an Escort Agency while attending College she was a particularly easy target for this."

You mean because she was black and the Lacrosse players were white, corrupt nifong thoughthe could get convictions.; March 12, 2016 at 4:41 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

It would behoove you and Mangum to turn over a new leaf and start being truthful. No one is buying what you are selling and the lying thing really hasn't worked out all that well for Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 12, 2016 at 5:20 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "There is evidence that is true. It was cited in books about the case, Rush to Injustice,It's Not About the Truth, and Until Proven Innocent"...................... And the evidence they cited was what? Dr. Anonymous also said: The dna of each and every Lacrosse team member ordered to provide dna samples did not match the dna recovered from crystal's person. Yet corrupt da nifong sought indictments against them".................................................................. But not for rape; for other serious charges he thought he had sufficient evidence for, like sexual assault and kidnapping.; March 12, 2016 at 7:36 PM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "The finding of that dna establishes nothing other than crystal engaged in sex with unknown men"............................................. Your use of the words "engaged in" suggests consent. Crystal did not consent to what was done to her.; March 12, 2016 at 8:39 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Dr. Anonymous said: "There is evidence that is true. It was cited in books about the case, Rush to Injustice,It's Not About the Truth, and Until Proven Innocent"...................... And the evidence they cited was what? Dr. Anonymous also said: The dna of each and every Lacrosse team member ordered to provide dna samples did not match the dna recovered from crystal's person. Yet corrupt da nifong sought indictments against them".................................................................. But not for rape; for other serious charges he thought he had sufficient evidence for, like sexual assault and kidnapping."

In December of 2006, roughly 9 months after the alleged crime allegedly happened, corrupt da nifong had someone in his office actually interview crystal. Until that time, nifong never interviewed her. Crystal said she could not remember being penetrated. So in December of 2006, corrupt nifong dropped the rape charges. I say again, corrut nifong DROPPED the RAPE charge(http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/12/22/125227/87/dukelacrosse/DA-Drops-Rape-Not-Other-Charges-in-Duke-Lacrosse-Case).

You are incredibly stupid and grossly uninformed.; March 13, 2016 at 1:55 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Dr. Anonymous said: "The finding of that dna establishes nothing other than crystal engaged in sex with unknown men"............................................. Your use of the words "engaged in" suggests consent. Crystal did not consent to what was done to her."

Again, your use of words: "You know deposition of DNA can not be timed."

That is an admission on your part that you do not know when the DNA arrived on crystal's person, the it can not be established that anything happened to her at the lacrosse party, that anyone at the lacrosse party had sex with her, that anyone at the lacrosse party even wanted to have sex with her.

All of which adds up to, you are an incredibly stupid, ignorant guilt presuming racist.; March 13, 2016 at 3:12 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

Chrck this out

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/duke-rape-indictment

and ths

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5348321

and this:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06E7D9153EF935A25756C0A9609C8B63

and this:

http://chronicle.com/article/3rd-Duke-Lacrosse-Player-Is/37034

and:

http://www.prsa.org/Intelligence/TheStrategist/Articles/view/622/102/Revisiting_Higher_learning_the_Duke_rape_case#.VuVXxKgrI_U

The three Duke Lacrosse players were indicted for Rape, Sexual assault and kidnapping.

Why do you maintain they were not charged with rape?; March 13, 2016 at 5:08 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

Your words:

" But not for RAPE(emphasis added); for other serious charges he thought he had sufficient evidence for, like sexual assault and kidnapping."

I ask again. Why do you maintain that the Lacrosse players were not charged with rape?; March 13, 2016 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: more for kenny hissy fit:

kenny's words(again): " But not for rape; for other serious charges he thought he had sufficient evidence for, like sexual assault and kidnapping."

from http://today.duke.edu/showcase/lacrosseincident/

"Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong stated publicly that a RAPE(emphasis added) had taken place and prosecuted the three students vigorously even as evidence mounted that RAISED SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACCUSER’S CREDIBILITY AND THE VERACITY OF THE CHARGES(emphasis added."

So explain why you maintain corrupt nifong did not charge the Lacrosse players with rape.; March 13, 2016 at 5:20 AM
Anonymous said...: more for kenn hissy fit:

from http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/lacrosse/2006-12-22-duke-rape-charges_x.htm:

"In DROPPING(emphasis added) the RAPE(emphasis added) charges, NIFONG(emphasis added) filed court papers that said the accuser told an investigator Thursday that she is no longer certain whether she was penetrated vaginally with the men's penises, as she had claimed earlier."

Explain how corrupt nifong could file court papers dropping rape charges if he never filed rape charges in the first place.; March 13, 2016 at 5:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 293 days to exonerate and free Mangum and just 2 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 13, 2016 at 5:47 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid:

You have 293 days to exonerate and free Mangum and just 2 days until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Hey, Abe.

Thanks for the update.

Jacta alea est.

I should know shortly about an answer to my filing.; March 13, 2016 at 6:04 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid,

You are hedging again. Don't disappoint us.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 13, 2016 at 6:21 AM
kenhyderal said...: On December 22, 2006, Nifong dropped the rape charges against all three lacrosse players after Mangum told an investigator a different version of events and said she was no longer sure about some aspects of her original story. The kidnapping and sexual offense charges were still pending against all three players. Wikipedia citing The Washington Post, December 23, 2006,; March 13, 2016 at 8:21 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

Your denials are not credible.

You said corrupt nifong did not file charges of rape against the Lacrosse players, but charges of sexual assault and kidnapping.

How could corrupt DA Nifong drop charges which he never filed in the first place?

Why do you expect anyone to believe you are knowledgeable about the Duke Rape Hoax when you post lies and then try, futilely, to cover your butt?; March 13, 2016 at 9:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny, have you left Dubai? Sid seems to think so.; March 13, 2016 at 9:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid, we already all know the answer to your filing. You've never won a single filing in court, you aren't about to start now.; March 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM
Anonymous said...: kenn7y hissy fit:

From one of your earlier posts(March 12, 2016 at 7:36 PM):

"Yet corrupt da nifong sought indictments against them".................................................................. But NOT FOR RAPE(emphasis added); for OTHER SERIOUS CHARGES(emphasis added) he thought he had sufficient evidence for, like SEXUAL ASSAULT and KIDNAPPING(emphasis added)."

You did claim earlier in this thread that nifong did not charge the Lacrosse players with rape.

Corrupt Nifong id charge the Lacrosse players with rape.

Your personal posterior camouflage is not effextive.; March 13, 2016 at 10:03 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

Why did you claim corrupt nifong did not charge the Lacrosse players with rape?

Two possibilities:

You lied, or;

You are ignorant.; March 13, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

If you had read any of the books I had cited earlier, maybe you would not have falsely claimed that corrupt nifong did not charge the Lacrosse players with rape.; March 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

referring to my comment of March 13, 2016 at 10:03 AM whch referred to your comment of March 12, 2016 at 7:36 PM:

You admitted corrupt nifong did not have evidence sufficient enough to charge the Lqcrosse players with rape. So explain why corrupt nifong DID charge the Lacrosse players with rape.

Getting back to another point I have raised, the sexual assault crystal alleged was a gang rape. As you have admitted, corrupt nifong did not have evidence to charge the Lacrosse players with rape. The alleged sexual assault was described as a rape. So how do you justify corrupt nifong charging them with sexual assault?

So far as kidnapping, you base that on the allegation that crystal was draged into and held in a bathroom by multiple assailants. A number of posters have posted that the bathroom was not large enough to accommodate three or four or more adults. The house has been destroyed, so we have no pictures of the bathroom. However, there is doubt that crystal ws ever dragged into and held in that bathroom. Haven't you said on this blog that doubt i a criminal case should benefit the defendant. So what justified corrupt nifong charging the defendants with kidnapping?; March 13, 2016 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...: One more, kenny hissy fit.

You obviously expect people to take your word at face value, i.e. accept your allegation that crystal was raped as truth.

Well, again, you stated, incorrectly, that corrupt da nifong did not charge the Lacrosse players with rape. The two possibilities are 1) you are ignorant or 2) you lied. In either case your word is unreliable. So why would anyone believe you?; March 13, 2016 at 11:35 AM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: UBES is in ultra high spin mode today

SPIN UBES SPIN

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SPIN UBES SPIN; March 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Who let Kilgo out?; March 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fir or harr the hypocritical fabricator or both posting anonymously again.; March 13, 2016 at 2:27 PM
kenhyderal said...: Charges laid and charges withdrawn = no charges for rape. He did this because DNA from Seligmann Finnerty and Evans was not present and Crystal's memory of her brutalization, while she had been drugged, was inconsistent. At the time he still felt he had enough to proceed against them for other very serious crimes. As he expressed to Cohan and to others he was and still is convinced something happened. In other words Crystal was the victim of certain despicable crimes.; March 13, 2016 at 2:59 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Charges laid and charges withdrawn = no charges for rape. He did this because DNA from Seligmann Finnerty and Evans was not present"

Again from your post of March 12, 2016 at 7:36 PM, "Yet corrupt da nifong sought indictments against them".................................................................. But NOT FOR RAPE(emphasis added); for OTHER SERIOUS CHARGES(emphasis added) he thought he had sufficient evidence for, like SEXUAL ASSAULT and KIDNAPPING(emphasis added)."

No matter how you ineffectively try to spin it, you did say nifong did not file charges of rape against the Lacrosse defendants. nifong did, in fact file charges of rape. And you are either lying or you are ignorant.

"and Crystal's memory of her brutalization, while she had been drugged, was inconsistent."

As crystal was never brutalized, never drugged(except by her own hand), and never raped, assaulted or kidnapped, that statement is but another meaningless statement from kenny hissy fit.

"At the time he still felt he had enough to proceed against them for other very serious crimes."

Corrupt nifomg had no evidence that anyone committed any crime against crystal. You have not provided any.

"As he expressed to Cohan and to others he was and still is convinced something happened. In other words Crystal was the victim of certain despicable crimes.'

Which means, like you, nifong is either willfully ignorant or he is a liar.; March 13, 2016 at 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

More for you. Had you read the books I referenced, you would already know this.

All the Caucasian members of the Lacrosse team were required by an NTO obtained by the Durham DA office to give samples for DNA analysis. The justification given by the DA office was, DNA would identify the perpetrators and exonerate the innocent. The state crime lab tested the rape kit materials and found no DNA to match the Lacrosse team members. Corrupt nifong then came out and said something to the effect that the absence of DNA did not mean that no crime had happened but only that nothing had been left.

At the time corrupt nifong sought indictments against Reade Seligman, Colin Finnerty and David Evans he knew he had no DNA evidence to implicate them in the alleged crime. So where do you get the story he dropped the rape charges because he had no DNA evidence.

Although nifong's office obtained samples from the Lacrosse players early in the case, in late March 2006 actually, no one in his office talked to crystal until December 2006. Crystal said then that she could not recall being penetrated, which in NC is an element of the crime rape.

In March of 2006, crystal alleged she had been raped by multiple assailants. The information she gave in December 2006 should have told corrupt nifong that her allegations were not credible. Instead he continued to prosecute. And he never produced any evidence to support the charges of sexual assault or kidnapping. His statement to William Cohan are not credible.

And, I say again, you are either ignorant or you are a liar. In either case, what you might believe about your favorite murderess/false accuser is irrelevant.; March 13, 2016 at 4:33 PM
A Lawyer said...: Thanks for the history lesson, but Crystal will be freed and exonerated in a matter of weeks... months at the most. The turning point will come around the Ides of March. You'll see.

What color crying towel would you like when March 15 comes and goes with Mangum still in prison and nothing having happened to exonerate her?; March 13, 2016 at 6:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous at 4:33 PM said to kenny the liar"

"And, I say again, you are either ignorant or you are a liar."

Embrace the power of "and".

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 13, 2016 at 7:29 PM
kenhyderal said...: Your treatment of me over the issue or sexual assault instead of rape is quite reminiscent of Coggins Franks' treatment of Crystal on the stand. This is an issue of no consequence but if you can find any inconsistency in what I posted it provides you with ammunition to once again scream liar, liar. It's the old right wing strategy of “attack, attack, attack, admit nothing, deny everything and launch counterattacks accusing others, using projection, of your own sins. It's no way to get at the truth. I have never called anyone on this blog ignorant or a liar.; March 13, 2016 at 8:13 PM
John D. Smith said...: Kenny,

In this master debate, you made a mistake. Dr. Anonymous stated the Nifong "sought indictments" against the defendants for rape, sexual assault and kidnapping. Indeed, he sought and received indictments in April 2006 against Seligmann and Finnertyfor rape, sexual assault and kidnapping. Nifong sought and obtained an indictment against Evans in May on the same charges. Your reply that Nifong sought indictments, "but not for rape" has been proven demonstrably false.

As a result, you lose this master debate. Your undefeated master debating record has been broken.

I know what you were trying to say, but you misspoke. You intended to say that Nifong dropped the murder changes nine months later and did not intend to try the defendants on those charges. Nevertheless, you did not say that.

Your statement is demonstrably false. As a result, YOU LOSE THIS MASTER DEBATE.

John D. Smith
New York, NY; March 13, 2016 at 8:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 292 days to exonerate and free Mangum and just 1 day until the Ides of March.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 14, 2016 at 3:43 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Your treatment of me over the issue or sexual assault instead of rape is quite reminiscent of Coggins Franks' treatment of Crystal on the stand."

You are crying and whining because you have been exposed as either ignorant or a liar and you can not cover your butt.

"This is an issue of no consequence but if you can find any inconsistency in what I posted it provides you with ammunition to once again scream liar, liar."

I did not point out any mere inconsistency. I pointed out that you said, nifong did not file charges of rape against the Lacrosse players. I provided you with documentation that nifong did charge the Lacrosse players with rpe. I say again, the possible explanations of why you claimed nifong did not charge the lacrosse platyers with rape are that you are ignorant or that you lied. Explain why you did say, nifong did not charge the lacrosse players with rape.

"It's the old right wing strategy of “attack, attack, attack, admit nothing, deny everything and launch counterattacks accusing others, using projection, of your own sins. It's no way to get at the truth. I have never called anyone on this blog ignorant or a liar."

That is a 100% accurate description of how you have approached the Duke Rape hoax.; March 14, 2016 at 4:22 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny hissy fit:

From your comment of March 13, 2016 at 8:13 PM: "I have never called anyone on this blog ignorant or a liar".

You have have lied about people, specifically the lawyers who defended the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players. when you said, on multiple occasions, that they engaged in a smear campaign against crystal.

Said smear campaign never happened.

In her pathetic attempt at a memoir, crystal lied about what happened when shestole a cab.You defended her version as the truth.

You are no advocate of truth.; March 14, 2016 at 5:13 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

You have lied repeatedly about Mangum's rape/assault. That makes you a liar.

I am not going to argue with you over whether the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth or Mangum was assaulted/raped. All those things are provably false. If you wish to take a contrary position on any of these matters, that is your business. It is fair for others to point out that you are wrong and, at least with respect to Mangum's false accusations, it is fair and reasonable to call you an ignorant and unrepentant liar.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 14, 2016 at 5:39 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

As the cliche goes, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

You did say nifong did not file charges of rape against Reade Seligman, Colin Finnerty and David Evans.

Why did you say that nifong did not charge them with rape?

If you did not know, well, then you were ignorant, rather inexplicably ignorant. It has been public knowledge for years that nifong did charge each of them with first degree rape. Why should anyone give credibility to someone who is so inexplicably ignorant.

If you did know, then you did lie. Rather you deliberately lied.

The matter is not significant. It is one which rather significantly affects your credibility.; March 14, 2016 at 6:18 AM
Walt said...: Anonymous at 5:13 AM wrote: "[Kenny] You are no advocate of truth."

That sums it up nicely. Kenny does not advocate for the truth. Never has.

Walt-in-Durham; March 14, 2016 at 7:57 AM
Walt said...: Abe wrote: " It is fair for others to point out that you are wrong and, at least with respect to Mangum's false accusations, it is fair and reasonable to call you an ignorant and unrepentant liar."

Ding-Ding-Ding, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

Walt-in-Durham; March 14, 2016 at 8:20 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny,

What excuse will Sid come up with when his latest filing fails, and how long before he actually posts it?; March 14, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

You have repeatedly accused the lawyers who defended the innocent Duke Lacrosse players of conducting a campaign to smear crystal in the media. If those lawyers denied that accusation, would you accuse them of lying. I think you would.

What would make that an act of utter hypocrisy is that allegation you made is false.

If you tell me to prove it is false, I will respond with, since you made the allegation, it is up to you to prove it is true.

However, I have read the gooks and followed KC Johnson and the appropriately named Liestoppers. There is no evidence that any of the defendants' lawyers ever smeared crystal. The truth is that crystal trashed her own reputation. That you are no paragon of truth, it is not surprising you can not recognize the truth.; March 14, 2016 at 12:05 PM
Anonymous said...: correction

kenny hissy fit:

As the cliche goes, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

You did say nifong did not file charges of rape against Reade Seligman, Colin Finnerty and David Evans.

Why did you say that nifong did not charge them with rape?

If you did not know, well, then you were ignorant, rather inexplicably ignorant. It has been public knowledge for years that nifong did charge each of them with first degree rape. Why should anyone give credibility to someone who is so inexplicably ignorant.

If you did know, then you did lie. Rather you deliberately lied.

The matter IS significant. It is one which rather significantly affects your credibility.; March 14, 2016 at 12:25 PM
Anonymous said...: harr the hypocriticl fabricator
kenny hissy fit

Any oomments about the ESPN documentary on the Duke Rape hHax.

You both admire William Cohan as=nd treat him as an expert n the case.

Cohan has said in this book that nifong told him the AG's investigators felt they had been sandbagged when AG Cooper expressed his opinion, that the accused Lacrosse players were innocent. From the ESPN Documentary: "Later, after Mike Nifong was removed from the case, new investigators reached a different conclusion and were even aghast that the alleged victim's claims were never scrutinized: “We did a completely thorough investigation. She essentially was given a free ride, from April, until the end of December, when the investigator talked to her and then she claimed she wasn't raped.”

That is from Jim Coman who was one of AG Cooper's investigators. Cohan never talked to any of the AG's investigators, never tried to determine whether or not nifong told the truth. It is obvious nifong did not.

http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-30for30-documentary-duke-lacrosse-scandal-2016-3; March 14, 2016 at 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit

harr the hypocritical fabricator

No ranting and raving because ESPN did not ask for your input before it ared Fantastic Lies?

Or are you finally accepting that no regards either of you as credible or trustworthy.; March 14, 2016 at 1:57 PM
desconocido said...: Hombre, Kenhyderal,
Quieres que te de mi informacion? si', o no?; March 14, 2016 at 8:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

Today is the Ides of March. I am expecting big news today about Mangum.

You have 291 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 15, 2016 at 5:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Abe,

We know Sid's latest effort has failed like all his others - he won't show up to day to post anything, or if he does, it will be about how busy he has been on his Megablog, and that he's learned and moved on.

What's funny - anyone notice that the 1 thing he deleted from his blog (he claims accidentally) is the letter Meier sent to Mangum, which showed Sid is lying about the plea and other things?

There is a reason he and Kenny refuse to even attempt to talk to the lawyers - they can show where Sid and Kenny are wrong. Easier to post on a blog and ignore the naysayers.; March 15, 2016 at 5:28 AM
Anonymous said...: I suspect that is also why Sid did not post whatever it is that he claimed he filed on behalf of Mangum: he does not want to learn, or have his assumptions challenged or questioned. He is happy to live in a cocoon of ignorance where he does not have to deal with facts that go against his preconceived notions.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 15, 2016 at 7:31 AM
Anonymous said...: harr the hypocritical fabricator has posted that if his filing was successful he wouldnt have to post it, that he would post it only if it was unsuccessful. So, rest assured harr will not post what he filed but will declare he was successful.

Sort of what was once suggested as a solution to the Viet Nam War. Declare victory and then go home.; March 15, 2016 at 7:33 AM
guiowen said...: "The Ides of March have come."
"Aye, Sidney, but not gone!"; March 15, 2016 at 10:04 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: The Ides of March are upon you,
All the livelong day.
The Ides of March are upon you,
You cannot get away.
Do not think you can escape them
At night or early in the morn --
The Ides of March are upon you
And you blog has become outworn.

(sincere apologies to John Sinclair and former UT President William Prather); March 15, 2016 at 11:26 AM
Anonymous said...: Hey, what a surprise - no Kenny, no Sid.; March 15, 2016 at 2:23 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: guiowen said...
"The Ides of March have come."
"Aye, Sidney, but not gone!"

gui, mon ami... Hah! I love that quote. Think I'll watch the "Julius Caesar" video tonight... the Shakespearean one with Marlon Brando. It'll be a break from all of the work I've been doing on the megablog. Should finish it hopefully tomorrow.; March 15, 2016 at 4:44 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...
The Ides of March are upon you,
All the livelong day.
The Ides of March are upon you,
You cannot get away.
Do not think you can escape them
At night or early in the morn --
The Ides of March are upon you
And you blog has become outworn.

(sincere apologies to John Sinclair and former UT President William Prather)

Hey, Fake K.

Thanks for the Ides poetry. I assume it is from the works of John Sinclair. I'll have to look it up sometime. Right now am working on trying to complete my megablog.; March 15, 2016 at 4:47 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
I suspect that is also why Sid did not post whatever it is that he claimed he filed on behalf of Mangum: he does not want to learn, or have his assumptions challenged or questioned. He is happy to live in a cocoon of ignorance where he does not have to deal with facts that go against his preconceived notions.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

I am expecting to hear about the result of my filing any day now. I will give a few more days for its postal delivery.; March 15, 2016 at 4:50 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Abe,

We know Sid's latest effort has failed like all his others - he won't show up to day to post anything, or if he does, it will be about how busy he has been on his Megablog, and that he's learned and moved on.

What's funny - anyone notice that the 1 thing he deleted from his blog (he claims accidentally) is the letter Meier sent to Mangum, which showed Sid is lying about the plea and other things?

There is a reason he and Kenny refuse to even attempt to talk to the lawyers - they can show where Sid and Kenny are wrong. Easier to post on a blog and ignore the naysayers.

Very perceptive. I have actually been busy working on the megablog. When you see it you'll understand why. It is very extensive and complex.

No, about the deleted posts... I still have the Meier letter and can always post it again. It is the comments that are irreplaceable and what I hate to have lost. In the future I will copy and preserve all comments. And, for the record, the other option that you fail to consider is that Mangum and I are telling the truth and that Meier is lying. Right?; March 15, 2016 at 4:56 PM
Anonymous said...: You claim Meier is lying, you claim to speak for Mangum, but you never provide proof. If she has proof he is lying, in writing, she needs to go to the State Bar - ask Walt, lawyers don't do that, if they do, they get in a lot of trouble. Oddly, she never challenges him. You've claimed he told her to lie on the stand, and other things, that would get him sanctioned - she doesn't repeat your claims.

You are a sad, pathetic joke, and you've already broken your promise about the Ides of March.; March 15, 2016 at 4:58 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sid:

Today is the Ides of March. I am expecting big news today about Mangum.

You have 291 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL

Hey, Abe.

Don't have the news yet, but am checking my mail daily for it. Should be sometime soon. Also, most of my time lately has been directed on my megablog which I hope to post in the next day or so.; March 15, 2016 at 4:59 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Anonymous said...
kenny hissy fit

harr the hypocritical fabricator

No ranting and raving because ESPN did not ask for your input before it ared Fantastic Lies?

Or are you finally accepting that no regards either of you as credible or trustworthy.

ESPN did not want to interview me because it did not want to hear the truth about the injustices against Crystal Mangum in a vendetta prosecution as payback for her role as accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case.; March 15, 2016 at 5:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Funny - we noted that Sid would ignore his promise to post his failed filing and claim he was too busy with other things. Shockingly - he's said he's too busy with other things to post his failed filing.

Sid, do you realize this is just a joke and you are a pathetic old man who enjoys abusing a younger woman, or you really this delusional?; March 15, 2016 at 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...: No, Sid, ESPN didn't want to hear from you because the documentary had nothing to do with the murder case - it was strictly Duke Lacrosse, and you've admitted you know nothing about that.; March 15, 2016 at 5:15 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"ESPN did not want to interview me because it did not want to hear the truth about the injustices against Crystal Mangum in a vendetta prosecution as payback for her role as accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case.

crystal was the FALSE accuser in the Duke Rape Hoax. There is no vendetta against crystal. Ergo, this is another fabrication from harr the hypocritical fabricator.; March 15, 2016 at 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Don't have the news yet, but am checking my mail daily for it. Should be sometime soon. Also, most of my time lately has been directed on my megablog which I hope to post in the next day or so."

You have been saying for months you will hav something "sometime soon".

You are stalling because you have nothing.; March 15, 2016 at 5:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"And, for the record, the other option that you fail to consider is that Mangum and I are telling the truth and that Meier is lying. Right?"

not an option because you and crystal have never told the truth.; March 15, 2016 at 5:23 PM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "YOU LOSE THIS MASTER DEBATE".......................... Your puerile joke is wearing thin. I am not debating with anyone, especially those who only offer ad hominem attacks whenever I offer an alternate take from the conventional wisdom about The Duke Lacrosse Case.; March 15, 2016 at 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

Lying about something is not an "alternate take from the conventional wisdom."

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 15, 2016 at 9:20 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe wrote and endorsed by Walt: "it is fair and reasonable to call you an ignorant and unrepentant liar."
............................No it is unfair and unreasonable and both of you know it. That you disagree with my interpretation of this Case, has never caused me to resort to calling you ignorant or dishonest; nor should you. Let's have civilized discourse. Point out to me where you think I am wrong and I will do the same. When I suggest you have completely mischaracterized Crystal, someone you only know second-hand, don't resort to hateful rhetoric against me, against Dr. Harr and against her. Lets keep things here on a slightly higher plane then the Republican primary race which many around the world are looking on as something quite disgusting.; March 15, 2016 at 9:30 PM
guiowen said...: My, my, Kenny!
Did someone hit you where it hurts?; March 15, 2016 at 9:58 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Anonymous said: "YOU LOSE THIS MASTER DEBATE".......................... Your puerile joke is wearing thin. I am not debating with anyone, especially those who only offer ad hominem attacks whenever I offer an alternate take from the conventional wisdom about The Duke Lacrosse Case."

Again, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

An example of your "alternate take" is your statement that corrupt nifong did not charge the Lacrosse players with rape. It has been public knowledge for years that he did charge them with rape. I say again, your version of that event is either ignorance on your part or a lie on your part. Neither ignorance nor lying can be called an alternate take on so called conventional wiskom.; March 16, 2016 at 2:12 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Abe wrote and endorsed by Walt: "it is fair and reasonable to call you an ignorant and unrepentant liar."

"No it is unfair and unreasonable and both of you know it. That you disagree with my interpretation of this Case, has never caused me to resort to calling you ignorant or dishonest; nor should you. Let's have civilized discourse. Point out to me where you think I am wrong and I will do the same. When I suggest you have completely mischaracterized Crystal, someone you only know second-hand, don't resort to hateful rhetoric against me, against Dr. Harr and against her. Lets keep things here on a slightly higher plane then the Republican primary race which many around the world are looking on as something quite disgusting.

Again, you said that corrupt da nifong did not charge the lacrosse players with rape. nifong did charge the Lacrosse players with rape. Why did you make that obviously wrong statement. Either you did not know te facts, which means you are ignorant. Or, you did know the facts, in which case your statement was a lie.

So instead of attempting futile personal posterior camouflage, tell us why you made that statement.; March 16, 2016 at 2:17 AM
Anonymous said...: keny hissy fit:

"I offer an alternate take from the conventional wisdom about The Duke Lacrosse Case."

What you call an "alternate take from the conventional wisdom about The Duke Lacrosse Case" is nothing more a racist motivated presumption of guilt on your part, a presumption of guilt in the face of no evidence a crime ever happened.; March 16, 2016 at 3:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 291 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It is also one day since the Ides of March and 3,196 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 16, 2016 at 5:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Kenny is a coward who hides behind the keyboard - at least Sid has attempted to contact people for answers. And, Kenny will just scream that this is an anonymous post as he furiously attacks from behind his keyboard again, trying to pretend he and Sid aren't pathetic, abusive liars.

Sadly their actions show this whole game is just about manipulating and abusing Crystal. I truly believe that Sid is delusional enough to believe a lot of what he says, but Kenny is just enabling the abuse of Crystal, he knows exactly what he's doing, and is manipulating both Sid and Crystal for his games.; March 16, 2016 at 5:18 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: "I offer an alternate take from the conventional wisdom about The Duke Lacrosse Case."

As Daniel Patrick Moynihan stated, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."

Your problem (like Sid's) is that you present your opinion as fact, and you're unwilling to admit it.; March 16, 2016 at 7:05 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny:

I am not going argue with you about "alternate" versions of reality.

Mangum lied about being raped. Her claim was investigated and thoroughly debunked. She told multiple, constantly changing and contradicting stories about the so-called rape, she identified with certainty as the perpetrators individuals who were demonstrably innocent, and all of her stories contradicted the testimony of everyone else present at the party (including the other stripper) and the physical evidence (including that famous photo of her leaving the party smiling).

Your lies are not persuasive or worthy of debate.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 16, 2016 at 7:15 AM
kenhyderal said...: Dr. Anonymous said: "So instead of attempting futile personal posterior camouflage, tell us why you made that statement.................. See my response of March 13, 2016 at 2:59 PM; March 16, 2016 at 8:38 AM
kenhyderal said...: Anonymous said: "Kenny is a coward who hides behind the keyboard - at least Sid has attempted to contact people for answers. And, Kenny will just scream that this is an anonymous post"......................Anonymous: Tell us your name. signed Kenneth D. Edwards; March 16, 2016 at 8:45 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Kenneth D. Edwards appears to exist only on this blog -- no facebook, no LinkedIn.

Signed: Fake Kenneth D. Edwards.; March 16, 2016 at 9:39 AM
Anonymous said...: And, his response was completely predictable - he's a joke.; March 16, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Dr. Anonymous said: "So instead of attempting futile personal posterior camouflage, tell us why you made that statement.................. See my response of March 13, 2016 at 2:59 PM"

I did. It was an attempt at personal posterior camouflage, as is this response.; March 16, 2016 at 10:47 AM
Walt said...: Fake Kenhyderal wrote: ""[kenhyderal said]I offer an alternate take from the conventional wisdom about The Duke Lacrosse Case."

As Daniel Patrick Moynihan stated, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."

Your problem (like Sid's) is that you present your opinion as fact, and you're unwilling to admit it."

Ding-Ding-Ding, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!

Walt-in-Durham; March 16, 2016 at 10:51 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Anonymous said: "Kenny is a coward who hides behind the keyboard - at least Sid has attempted to contact people for answers. And, Kenny will just scream that this is an anonymous post"......................Anonymous: Tell us your name. signed Kenneth D. Edwards"

Tell us why you claimed that corrupt da nifong did not charge the lacrosse defendants with rape.

Did you not know he had charged them with rape? If that were the case, you were ignorant.

Did you know that nifong did charge the lacrosse players with rape? If you did, the you lied.

In either case, all the personal posterior camouflage you use will not avail you.; March 16, 2016 at 10:52 AM
guiowen said...: For that matter, Kenny accused me of insulting Sidney almost as badly as I insult Crystal.
In a sense, I guess he can claim that statement is true -- since, in fact, I don't insult Crystal.; March 16, 2016 at 11:35 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

Explain why you claimed that corrupt da nifong did not charge the innocent lacrosse players with rape. So far you haven't. You have tried to duck answering.

That is an attempt at personal posterior camouflage. In somewhat more vulgar terms, you are trying to deny that your butt has been exposed.; March 16, 2016 at 11:41 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Sid -- The "ides Poetry" as you call it was my take on the University of Texas alma mater, "The Eyes of Texas", which was originally written by John Sinclair (a UT band member, not the poet). It is, in turn, based off a favored quote of then-UT President, William Prather.

Sinclair was given just a few hours to come up with "The Eyes of Texas", and it is sung to the tune of "I've Been working on the Railroad".

If you're a fan of John Sinclair the poet, check out his website:
http://www.johnsinclair.us/poetry.html; March 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: UBES the spinmeister is up to old tired tricks

SPIN UBES SPIN

And be sure to ask kenny boy that same questions a few more times

QUACK

QUACK

QUACK

SPIN UBES SPIN; March 16, 2016 at 4:14 PM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit or harr the hypocritical fabricator or maybe both posting anonymously again trying to delude people into believing they have support.; March 16, 2016 at 4:28 PM
Nifong Supporter said...: Fake Kenhyderal said...
Sid -- The "ides Poetry" as you call it was my take on the University of Texas alma mater, "The Eyes of Texas", which was originally written by John Sinclair (a UT band member, not the poet). It is, in turn, based off a favored quote of then-UT President, William Prather.

Sinclair was given just a few hours to come up with "The Eyes of Texas", and it is sung to the tune of "I've Been working on the Railroad".

If you're a fan of John Sinclair the poet, check out his website:
http://www.johnsinclair.us/poetry.html

Ahhh. Thanks for the explanation. I see how it would go with "I've been working on the Railroad."

I'm not a big a fan of poetry as I would like to be. Am reading a bit of Shakespeare's plays to try and learn to appreciate it. I'll take a look at your link, too.

This comment is but a brief interlude. Am close to completing my megablog. I see no reason why it should not be posted tomorrow.; March 16, 2016 at 4:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes, but will you post your failed filing, or pretend you are still waiting for the mail?; March 16, 2016 at 4:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

"Am close to completing my megablog. I see no reason why it should not be posted tomorrow."

Which eans harr the hypocritical fabricator is not about to post his filing, which means he will claim success and then say nothing more, which means he has purveyed another meaningless empty promise.; March 16, 2016 at 5:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Now harr the hypocritical fabricator or kenny hissy fit or both will post another anonymous comment trying to delude people into believing they gave support.; March 16, 2016 at 6:00 PM
THE GREAT KILGO said...: There you go again UBES

The leader of the liestopper cranks

SPIN

UBES

SPIN; March 16, 2016 at 7:25 PM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Sid - I recommend Richard III or Much Ado About

If you're committed to reading, read Much Ado (the wordplay between Beatrice and Benedick makes it my favorite) as it's considered Shakespeare's best comedy.

Watch the Olivier version of Richard III.; March 16, 2016 at 8:20 PM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Hah!
Entered previous post from my IPad....

That should have read "Much Ado About Nothing". I guess "Much Ado About " works,too....; March 16, 2016 at 8:24 PM
guiowen said...: Actually, I prefer "12th Night".; March 16, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Anonymous said...: It's been ten years since the Duke Lacrosse team didn't rape Crystal Magnum in a bathroom that was too small during a time warp.Dave Evans and Colin Finnerty work on Wall Street and Reade Seligmann is an attorney in New Jersey.Lying corrupt Mike Nifong was disbarred and went to jail and drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum is in prison for murder.That shows who was telling the truth to begin with but nobody ever apologized to the young men or the coach of the team who was fired for no reason.; March 17, 2016 at 12:30 AM
Anonymous said...: As I predicted, harr the hypocritical fabricator or krnny hissy fir or maybr both posted anonymously again, in the deluded hope that they can convince the world they have support.; March 17, 2016 at 2:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 290 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been two days since the Ides of March and 3,197 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 17, 2016 at 5:25 AM
Anonymous said...: kenny hissy fit:

In your comment of March 13, 2016 at 8:21 AM you said:

"On December 22, 2006, Nifong dropped the rape charges against all three lacrosse players after Mangum told an investigator a different version of events and said she was no longer sure about some aspects of her original story. The kidnapping and sexual offense charges were still pending against all three players. Wikipedia citing The Washington Post, December 23, 2006".

Explain how nifong could have, in December of 2006, dropped rape charges if he did not originally file rape charges in April of 2006, the month the indictments were handed down. So far you haven't.; March 17, 2016 at 6:44 AM
Nifong Supporter said...: Anonymous Fake Kenhyderal said...
Sid - I recommend Richard III or Much Ado About

If you're committed to reading, read Much Ado (the wordplay between Beatrice and Benedick makes it my favorite) as it's considered Shakespeare's best comedy.

Watch the Olivier version of Richard III.

Fake K and gui, mon ami,

Thanks for your Shakespearean references. Am still in the first act of "Othello - the Moor of Venice." So far I have read "Julius Caesar" and "MacBeth."

Anyway, back to work. I'm trying to get my megablog posted by today.; March 17, 2016 at 6:53 AM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said: " since, in fact, I don't insult Crystal'T........................ This from a person who called her an insane drug addict.; March 17, 2016 at 10:20 AM
guiowen said...: Kenny,
That's not the way I put it. I pointed out that she takes too many drugs, and she loses her mind when she does this. This explains why she goes around stealing cars, stabbing her boy friends, burning their clothes, etc. This is not an insult: it's rather an explanation of her behavior.
You perhaps believe that she's in her right mind when she does this. What does this say about you?; March 17, 2016 at 10:46 AM
guiowen said...: Kenhyderal,
And, while we're at it, what are the vicious insults I'm supposed to have hurled at Sidney?; March 17, 2016 at 10:48 AM
Fake Kenhyderal said...: Kenny -

It's documented that Crystal was combining the prescription drugs methadone, Ambien and Paxil. it's also documented that on the night of the party before arriving, her own admission, had consumed alcohol and Flexeril.

it's discussed in the UNC Medical report that when Crystal Mangum came to them for pain in her knees and neck, the doctors agreed not to give her prescription drugs because of her troubled history of prescription drug usage.

Does this seem to you to be indicative of something?; March 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Guiowen said: " since, in fact, I don't insult Crystal'T........................ This from a person who called her an insane drug addict."

This from a commenter who has shown he does not know the facts of the case, who does not know what the truth is.; March 17, 2016 at 12:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Nifong Supporter said...

" Anyway, back to work. I'm trying to get my megablog posted by today."

What was supposed to happen on March 15? Why are trying to avoid that topic?; March 17, 2016 at 12:40 PM
Anonymous said...: As Shakespeare might say, kenny is a dissembling, prattling knave.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 17, 2016 at 12:44 PM
The Great Kilgo said...: Please, Kenhyderal, help me! Ubes captu;ku67rdfhjh; March 17, 2016 at 6:58 PM
Inconnu said...: Alors, Kenhyderal,
Tu veux sortir ta petite amie d'ou elle est?; March 17, 2016 at 7:00 PM
Ubes said...: Also, Kenny,
Soll ich dir sagen, was ich weiss?; March 17, 2016 at 8:04 PM
kenhyderal said...: Guiowen said:, "That's not the way I put it. I pointed out that she takes too many drugs, and she loses her mind when she does this"......................... Whatever way you put it it's inaccurate and insulting. Any medications Crystal took were prescribed by a well known Orthopedic Surgeon in treatment for chronic pain that was eventually corrected by spinal surgery. Crystal has no substance abuse issues whatsoever and although she did suffer from a post traumatic stress disorder she has no psychiatric illnesses. You should not speculate on things you have only second hand knowledge of mostly gleaned from the gutter press and the from Duke Lacrosse Defence propaganda.; March 17, 2016 at 8:50 PM
kenhyderal said...: Abe said: "As Shakespeare might say, kenny is a dissembling, prattling knave"............................................................................
"I hate all dissembling base knaves And pickthanks whoever they be, ... Nor can I abide any tongues That will prattle and prate against reason"; March 17, 2016 at 8:59 PM
kenhyderal said...: @ The imposters 6:58, 7:00 and 8:04. You can't use Google Translate to post anything intelligible; March 17, 2016 at 9:01 PM
Anonymous said...: I encourage everyone to watch the ESPN documentary Fantastic Lies about the Duke case.It's truly amazing the damage a mentally unstable prostitute like Crystal Mangum and a rogue prosecutor like Mike Nifong can do to the lives of innocent people.; March 17, 2016 at 10:01 PM
Anonymous said...: I didn't know Sgt. Mark Gottlieb had committed suicide.He was a criminal with a badge and maybe his conscience got the best of him.Nifong and Mangum should do the same.Nobody would miss them.; March 17, 2016 at 10:04 PM
Anonymous said...: "He that filches from me my good name robs me of that which not enriches him and makes me poor indeed." - Othello. Nifong had to learn the hard way that ruining the reputations of young men he knew were innocent would lead to his own downfall.; March 17, 2016 at 10:14 PM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"You should not speculate on things you have only second hand knowledge of mostly gleaned from the gutter press and the from Duke Lacrosse Defence propaganda."

So says kenny hissy fit who is now trying to cover his exposed butt ever since he proved he knows little, if anything, about what happened on Buchanan Avenue on the night of 13/14 March 2006.; March 18, 2016 at 2:44 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"@ The imposters 6:58, 7:00 and 8:04. You can't use Google Translate to post anything intelligible".

So says kenny hissy fit who has never posted anything intelligible, here or elsewhere.; March 18, 2016 at 2:46 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Abe said: "As Shakespeare might say, kenny is a dissembling, prattling knave"............................................................................
'I hate all dissembling base knaves And pickthanks whoever they be, ... Nor can I abide any tongues That will prattle and prate against reason'

So says kenny hissy fit who admires harr the hypocritical fabricator who has done nothing on this blog but "prattle and prate against reason", who believes beyond reason and evidence that crystal was raped.; March 18, 2016 at 2:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Sid:

You have 289 days to exonerate and free Mangum.

It has been three days since the Ides of March and 3,198 days since Mike Nifong was disbarred.

Abe Froman
Chicago, IL; March 18, 2016 at 2:50 AM
Anonymous said...: kenhyderal said...

"Whatever way you put it it's inaccurate and insulting. Any medications Crystal took were prescribed by a well known Orthopedic Surgeon in treatment for chronic pain that was eventually corrected by spinal surgery."

Did the orthopedic surgeon prescribe the two large cans of beer crystal admitted she drank when she took her flexeril? People taking fleseril are cautioned against alcohol while using that drug.; March 18, 2016 at 2:51 AM

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