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Ever since I filed the handwritten motions by Crystal Mangum with the Clerk of Court’s office on June 28, 2012, anonymi commenters and the Intern, in particular, have been inundating me with challenges to put these documents online. No doubt, they felt my failure to take the initiative to do so was an indication of some sort of smoking gun. Undoubtedly they believed that I had some major hand in their preparation and construction. These ill-willers, without doubt, had hoped that I, in some way, had violated my pledge to the North Carolina State Bar to refrain from acting in the future as an attorney.
Despite my assurances that the handwritten motions by Mangum revealed very little, and their importance lied in the fact that they requested the Court to step in and rule on the extremely important issues of dismissing charges and reducing bail, Intern and his comrades persisted in trying to provoke me into posting the motions online. As I explained time and again, the precious time necessary to put them on the blog site was better spent on blogs and flogs that I was working on that dealt specifically with Crystal Mangum’s case. For example, trying to respond to the negative publicity generated by the media that a “Mangum supporter was being investigated by the State Bar” and composing an formal complaint for submission to the North Carolina Attorney General’s Office, I believe, held priority. (As an aside, I have not as of yet received a response from my formal complaint to the Attorney General’s Office.)
Alas, I have given in to the demands of Intern et al in hopes of silencing them on the topic and not giving them false hopes as to the possibility of something being amiss. All three motions are presented on the link at the end of this blog.
Reinvigorated and refreshed after my little respite, I am ready jump into the NC criminal justice scene with both feet. I have begun work on a super-secret project, the likes of which Nifong and Mangum detractors cannot even begin to conceive… something original and unlike anything that has ever been seen on a blog site in history… ergo, something you’d never see on Durham-in-Wonderland or Liestoppers or any of the other boring blogs.
I have received a notice that a certified letter-return receipt from the NC State Bar is awaiting me, and I will retrieve it first thing tomorrow. Then I’ll post it on my blog site at my earliest convenience. There is a lot going on, and with Mangum’s case scheduled on the Court docket for August 6, 2012, I would expect significant activity to take place as a result. So, buckle your seat belt and press the peddle to the metal if you have any hopes of keeping up with this wild ride.
Click on the link below to access a directory which contains all three handwritten motions .
LINK: http://www.justice4nifong.com/legal/cgm/blink0729direc.htm
212 comments:
1 – 200 of 212 Newer› Newest»SIDNEY HARR:
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Reinvigorated and refreshed after my little respite, I am ready jump into the NC criminal justice scene with both feet. I have begun work on a super-secret project, the likes of which Nifong and Mangum detractors cannot even begin to conceive… something original and unlike anything that has ever been seen on a blog site in history… ergo, something you’d never see on Durham-in-Wonderland or Liestoppers or any of the other boring blogs. "
I think a lot of people can conceive of what your super secret project will consist of - more unsubstantiated allegations, more demands upon the court to release Crystal, and more documentation that you are a deluded, racist megalomaniac.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Click on the link below to access a directory which contains all three handwritten motions ."
Crystal's handwritten motions all are rehashes of the arguments you have been making - or, rather, the demands you have been placing on the court, the demands which shows you believe that you, and now Crystal, should be above the law.
SIDNEY HARR:
"[I was] trying to respond to the negative publicity generated by the media that a 'Mangum supporter was being investigated by the State Bar'".
You fail, probably deliberately, to mention that Woody Vann wants you to butt out of the case because you are doing Crystal no good.
SIDNEY HARR:
"(As an aside, I have not as of yet received a response from my formal complaint to the Attorney General’s Office.)"
You neglect to mention you had no standing in the case which would give you any authority to make such a motion. You also neglect to motion that, unless the DA asks him to intervene, the AG has no authority to intervene.
It is another manifestation of your belief that you are above the law and entitled to dictate to the justice system how it should function.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Alas, I have given in to the demands of Intern et al in hopes of silencing them on the topic and not giving them false hopes as to the possibility of something being amiss. All three motions are presented on the link at the end of this blog."
In spite of your protestations, there is a high likelihood you told Crystal what to write. Protest to the contrary all you want. You are not credible.
SIDNEY HARR:
"These ill-willers, without doubt, had hoped that I, in some way, had violated my pledge to the North Carolina State Bar to refrain from acting in the future as an attorney."
I say, these motions do show that you did advise Crystal as to what the content of said motions should be.
Vann specifically stated in public that he had not even SEEN the motions here, yet the language says " by and through counsel vann". Hilarious harr .......you really do need to gets yiur meds adjusted. By the way, i find it equally funny that the supoosed college graduate mangum cannot write a correct sentence and cannot spell. Such high standards at good old nccu!
Absolutely hilarious, bro.
Somebody needs to get mangum cline's hooked on phonics textbook.
Harr: "Peddle to the metal"
Ordinary citizen: "Pedal to the metal"
Sidney, you are a mess....
SIDNEY HARR:
"Peddle to the metal"
Did you mean something like sell an item to a cast iron skillet? That would be peddling to a piece of metal.
Looks like harr went out of his way to try to camoflage the writing.......made it exceptionally stupid. Didnt work tho.......his cheesy overblown language and halfassed legalisms show....in spite of the second grade writing. Vann must be laughing his wig off.
Where can I find these ``North Carolina general statue(s)`` that Crystal Mangum refers to here?
SIDNEY HARR:
"Peddle to the metal"
Does that mean you are going to sell musical instruments to a ban like Black Sabbath?
If there was an ounce of justice in this world ugly,lying,thiefing,killing drunk prostitute Crystal Mangum would already have been executed by now.
Manum may have physically grabbed her number two pencil and written this silliness but wecall recognize harr's pseudo lawyer language. Too funny bro
this last piece is so full of silliness and comic fodder.......it's right up there with the Nifong new conference where he wrapped his arm around his throat. LOL. Lord, don't you know old Woody hears about this from his courthouse cronies......as in, "Hey, there, counselor, why don't you appoint the distinguished lawyer Harr to your team!!"
Actually these three motions contain a lie.......Vann said he had not read these latest motions during the last court appearance. He had no part in their submission and did not know they were submitted. To say that his advice, as counsel, was sought is a lie. As usual, I suspect Harr will try to weasel out of this lie by saying Vann DID know about about it. Funny how lies surround Harr.......all the time.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"Peddle to the metal"
Did you mean something like sell an item to a cast iron skillet? That would be peddling to a piece of metal.
I like to toss a few bones to you detractors, ill-willers, and anonymi every now and then, so once in a while I will purposely throw in a grammatical error to enable you guys to go to town.
Of course I know the difference between peddle and pedal... just wanted to see if you did. Hah! Congrats.
sure you did, harr. sure you did....... you get funnier all the time. you and no conscious cline go to the same school, did you?
be sure to sharpen your number two pencil next time.....
What shows clearly in these three motions is (a)a pathetic attempt at disguising his involvement and direction to Mangum, (b)poor thought construction, blatlant falsehoods, ignorance of the law, and totally unsubstantiated basis for filing, and, (c)another example of harr (and so many others) using mangum to further their own agendas. In no way do I excuse Mangum for her serial lying, terrible parenting, criminal behavior and lack of morals. However, it certainly does not help Mangum, in any way, to be used by scavengers and predators like Vincent Clark, Harr, Nifong and, historically, the academic wingnuts in the Duke 88.
Anonymous said...
Looks like harr went out of his way to try to camoflage the writing.......made it exceptionally stupid. Didnt work tho.......his cheesy overblown language and halfassed legalisms show....in spite of the second grade writing. Vann must be laughing his wig off.
First, I don't believe that Mr. Vann has a wig. Secondly, there is nothing in the documents to even suggest that I had anything to do with them.
Anonymous said...
What shows clearly in these three motions is (a)a pathetic attempt at disguising his involvement and direction to Mangum, (b)poor thought construction, blatlant falsehoods, ignorance of the law, and totally unsubstantiated basis for filing, and, (c)another example of harr (and so many others) using mangum to further their own agendas. In no way do I excuse Mangum for her serial lying, terrible parenting, criminal behavior and lack of morals. However, it certainly does not help Mangum, in any way, to be used by scavengers and predators like Vincent Clark, Harr, Nifong and, historically, the academic wingnuts in the Duke 88.
You act as though Crystal has been helped by the state licensed attorneys who have represented her. She's been in jail for more than 450 days on a larceny charge that prosecutors can't prove took place, and a murder charge that is based on a lie - the autopsy report of April 14, 2011. She's just sitting in jail. What has her attorneys done for her? That's what I'd like to know. Can you enlighten me on this?
The point here is that you have no standing, you are NOT an attorney, and, frankly, what her attorneys do with and for her is none of your business. Once again, your comments prove that you are simply using Mangum and trying to draw attention to yourself. It has always been only about you, and we all know it.
Mangum had the attorney
SHE wanted with Shella. She did NOT want Vann. You, bro, butted in and she wound up with Vann. Now you are whining about Vann's represtation, as though you, who are most definitely NOT a lawyer, know better how Mangum should be defended.....which is ridiculous. I do want to point out to you that there is ONE thing you could be doing and which you have not done.......you could be donating money out of your pocket to retain private counsel for Mangum who meets your lofty standards. I don't see any effort on your part to go out and hire an attorney for her. So, how about you just butt out and let her lawyer do his job....unless, of course, you want to open your wallet and hire the ghost of Johnny Cochran. (sp?) "If the hair got pulled, the state is full of bull"!!
There are specific instances defined in NCGS 14-72 where larceny is considered a felony without regard to the amount in question. You'd think that the great legal mind(s) at work here would have read those parts of the "statues".
Similarly, the references to fraudulent medical/autopsy reports in the motion to dismiss murder bear a strong "Harr-ian" influence.
Finally, with Attorney Vann publicly stating that he has not read these documents, the statements "by and through her attorney...." is probably enough to have them thrown out.
Nice try, though.
yep, walks like a harr, sounds like a harr, quacks like a harr......yep, it's a harr. sad
Lance? Is her stabbing of Daye (unless proved to be self defense) an obvious fit here....since she left his apartment at night?, after, apparently, commiting a felony? How is "breaking out" defined here? She claims Daye was forcibly holding her and refusing to let her go....yet she took the time to get her purse after she stabbed him.
14-53. Breaking out of dwelling house burglary.
If any person shall enter the dwelling house of another with intent to commit any felony or larceny therein, or being in such dwelling house, shall commit any felony or larceny therein, and shall, in either case, break out of such dwelling house in the nighttime, such person shall be punished as a Class D felon. "
From the Herald Sun....
On Wednesday, Vann said he is working on Mangum’s case and doesn’t pay too much attention to what Harr does. Vann has not read Harr’s motions or the motions that Harr claims Mangum wrote, he said.
Last week, Harr announced to the media that there was going to be a hearing on the Mangum case.
“There wasn’t a hearing,” Vann said.
“I wish he would stop doing things, but it’s not going to interfere with how I’m going to handle her case,” Vann said."
So, Sidney, how come the , uh, motions you claim Mangum wrote specifically say they were done with advice of counsel, etc.? These statements are, as my plain spoken grandma would say, big fat lies.
Care to 'splain? Or, will you continue to ignore questions just as you have?
Why did you lie and claim the police set fire to walker's clothes?
Why did you lie about Daye's criminal record?
Why did you lie about the reasons for the fight between Daye and Mangum?
and so on, and so on?
SIDNEY HARR:
"First, I don't believe that Mr. Vann has a wig. Secondly, there is nothing in the documents to even suggest that I had anything to do with them."
Yes there is. The documents are re-hashes of arguments you have made, for which arguments you have offered no support.
SIDNEY HARR:
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You act as though Crystal has been helped by the state licensed attorneys who have represented her. She's been in jail for more than 450 days on a larceny charge that prosecutors can't prove took place, and a murder charge that is based on a lie - the autopsy report of April 14, 2011. She's just sitting in jail. What has her attorneys done for her? That's what I'd like to know. Can you enlighten me on this?"
Crystal has languished in jail because neither SIDNEY nor his J4N gang are willing to put up bail.
SIDNEY would rather keep her in jail so he can continue to publish his diatribes and think he is above the law.
More Jeopardy:
Answer: A sculpted image which Crystal Mangum thinks is a law.
Question: What is a statue.
Clearly these so-called motions were NOT done with any involvement on the part of Vann. They are a lie coming out of the gate. In addition, these motions make no sense in terms of justification. Giving a nine conviction killer a 50K bail while she is awaiting trial on first degree murder charges is ridiculous. If harr heard that some judge gave a white person this kind of bail, under identical circumstances, he would throw a hissy fit! but he thinks it is justified for mangum.
A third point, is there anybody who read this site who thinks harr had nothing to do with these motions except courier service? Oh, except kenny boy? if so, please tell the rest of us why you think harr was just a mule
More Jeopardy:
Answer: Crystal Mangum
Question: About whom does SIDNEY HARR not really care a whit?
These three latest motions contain blatant falsehoods. Vann said he has not read them, so how can Mangum (AKA Harr) claim that they were done with advice of counsel? is Harr now claiming to be Mangum's "counsel"? hmmmmmmmm????
Answer the question, Sidney? How can Mangum claim these latest motions were done with "counsel"'s involvement when Vann denies he knew anything about them?
Until this lie is either admitted or some other verifiable explanation is put forward, your credibility is zero
A motion is not a trial argument, Harr. Bout time you learned this. If Mangum wants to claim self defense when she killed Mr. Daye, she will have to prove this in court. Do you still not get it?
The "larceny charge lacks cupability"? What the heck does this mean, pray tell? I believe you meant culpability? If so, the word is completely wrong in this context. Also somebody needs to give Sister a spelling book. "Negligient"?? Statue? Statutes? Peddle? Pedal?
And,by the way, none of buying your bull about not writing these papers. You may not have pushed the pencil but your flowery nonsensical and totally inaccurate language is all over this "motions". Nice try, bro.
Too bad Vann has to waste his and the court's time messing with this.
As somebody else has said, you don't think Vann is worthy, crack open your wallet and buy Mangum somebody else.
Anonymous said...
The point here is that you have no standing, you are NOT an attorney, and, frankly, what her attorneys do with and for her is none of your business. Once again, your comments prove that you are simply using Mangum and trying to draw attention to yourself. It has always been only about you, and we all know it.
Mangum had the attorney
SHE wanted with Shella. She did NOT want Vann. You, bro, butted in and she wound up with Vann. Now you are whining about Vann's represtation, as though you, who are most definitely NOT a lawyer, know better how Mangum should be defended.....which is ridiculous. I do want to point out to you that there is ONE thing you could be doing and which you have not done.......you could be donating money out of your pocket to retain private counsel for Mangum who meets your lofty standards. I don't see any effort on your part to go out and hire an attorney for her. So, how about you just butt out and let her lawyer do his job....unless, of course, you want to open your wallet and hire the ghost of Johnny Cochran. (sp?) "If the hair got pulled, the state is full of bull"!!
To my knowledge, Shella volunteered to represent Mangum and was not appointed by the court. Ergo, to my knowledge, Shella was not able to have any investigation reimburst by the state... and to my knowledge, he conducted no investigation.
I did not ask Mr. Shella to stop representing Ms. Mangum. He made that determination of his own free will. Neither I nor the courts can force him to represent her if he wants out. It's easy to blame me as a scapegoat... and that's the easy way out.
Lance the Intern said...
There are specific instances defined in NCGS 14-72 where larceny is considered a felony without regard to the amount in question. You'd think that the great legal mind(s) at work here would have read those parts of the "statues".
Similarly, the references to fraudulent medical/autopsy reports in the motion to dismiss murder bear a strong "Harr-ian" influence.
Finally, with Attorney Vann publicly stating that he has not read these documents, the statements "by and through her attorney...." is probably enough to have them thrown out.
Nice try, though.
Intern,
Yes, regarding the instances where a larceny of property can be considered a felony irrespective of the amount, but none of those circumstances were applicable. Otherwise, prosecutors would have filed a larceny of property charge instead of using a little known /rarely used one.
As far as Mr. Vann not reading the motions I drafted and filed on behalf of Pro Se Mangum, I believe that is irresponsible. Of course he should have read them, especially since they were written by a physician and had to do with Reginald Daye's true cause of death.
Anonymous said...
Lance? Is her stabbing of Daye (unless proved to be self defense) an obvious fit here....since she left his apartment at night?, after, apparently, commiting a felony? How is "breaking out" defined here? She claims Daye was forcibly holding her and refusing to let her go....yet she took the time to get her purse after she stabbed him.
14-53. Breaking out of dwelling house burglary.
If any person shall enter the dwelling house of another with intent to commit any felony or larceny therein, or being in such dwelling house, shall commit any felony or larceny therein, and shall, in either case, break out of such dwelling house in the nighttime, such person shall be punished as a Class D felon. "
Keep in mind that even though Daye was listed as the lessee, he had a living arrangement with Mangum, so she did not enter the dwelling house of another... She entered her own dwelling. Furthermore she had no intent and did not commit any felony while in the apartment. The only thing Mangum took from Daye was a beating.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
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You act as though Crystal has been helped by the state licensed attorneys who have represented her. She's been in jail for more than 450 days on a larceny charge that prosecutors can't prove took place, and a murder charge that is based on a lie - the autopsy report of April 14, 2011. She's just sitting in jail. What has her attorneys done for her? That's what I'd like to know. Can you enlighten me on this?"
Crystal has languished in jail because neither SIDNEY nor his J4N gang are willing to put up bail.
SIDNEY would rather keep her in jail so he can continue to publish his diatribes and think he is above the law.
First, you are no mind-reader and you do not know what I think or what outcome I desire. I am no mind-reader and do not profess to know what you think... or if you think. Therefore, I will tell you what I want:
(a) for all criminal charges against Mangum to be dropped;
(b) for Mangum to be released from jail; and
(c) for the State to negotiate with Mangum using principles of restorative justice.
Anonymous said...
These three latest motions contain blatant falsehoods. Vann said he has not read them, so how can Mangum (AKA Harr) claim that they were done with advice of counsel? is Harr now claiming to be Mangum's "counsel"? hmmmmmmmm????
Hah! No smoking gun? Not even any gunpowder burns! Sorry to disappoint all of you detractors and ill-willers. Like I said before, I had nothing to do with the three handwritten motions by Mangum except to physically take them from point A to point B (the Clerk of Court's office) where they were filed.
End of story.
Anonymous @ 9:05am:
Here's the deal -- The ONLY way that the prosecution is going to get the charge of first degree murder to stick, given the obvious circumstances (I think everyone would agree that there was no premeditation in Crystal's act of stabbing Mr. Daye) is to tie the act to another felony -- in this case, "stealing" the 2 cashier's checks.
My personal opinion? It's a stretch...I think a valid argument can be made that she held on to the cashier's checks with the intent to pay the rent with them. That is, unless the rent was due before the stabbing -- if so, the intent argument goes out the window.
"Wives with knives" notwithstanding, Crystal is obviously not capable of managing her temper (if you recall, she threatened to stab her previous boyfriend in the presence of police officers). What we do know about her medical history is that she has been on a cocktail of medications to treat anxiety, depression and other mental disorders. In laymen's terms, she's batshit crazy. I wouldn't trust her with a used kleenex, let alone a knife (butter, paring, what have you).
So -- the best the defense can hope for is to get the larceny charges dismissed. Once that's done, they'll have to argue the self-defense angle in court -- which means that a jury could find Crystal either:
1) Guilty of 1st degree murder
2) Guilty of 2nd degree murder
3) Guilty of voluntary manslaughter
4) Not guilty.
For a number of reasons I've already outlined, I don't think the "perfect self defense" argument is going to work -- and if I were Crystal's lawyer, there's NO WAY I'd put her crazy ass on the stand.
Which pretty much leaves you with a plea bargain....
So now you admit you drafted the second set of motions as well as the first. Interesting.....another falsehood revealed. And now you are claiming some kind of expertise/status because you say a "physician" wrote the motions.....and therefore, they should have been worthy of attention by Vann.
You are incorrect about Shella. Mangum wanted him and the court appointed him. You butted in, Shella quit. The court appointed Vann. YOU are the reason Shella left the case. Now you are trashing both of the attorneys.
The larcency charge, as a felony, does, in fact, have applicability as will be determine during the trial.....if the prosecution so proves its case. Once again, you fail to understand even the funamentals of due process.
Mangum did, in fact, "enter the dwelling house of another". She was not listed as a tennant on Daye's lease and, because the property was rental, the only way she could claim the apartment was hers, would have been to be formally listed on the lease with the property management. Daye had no authority to sublet within his lease. Again, if the state proves its case IN COURT, Mangum will have commited a felony and the larceny charge will be valid. Vann will have the burden to prove Mangum's excuse that it was self defense. She cannot simply say it was, in a motion, and leave the jail. You can rattle all you want about dropping charges and truth setting her free. She will be free if/as/when she is found innocent. Period. Neither you nor Mangum is above the law.
For those who are unclear about the "Larceny of chose in action" (GS 14-75) statute (not correct spelling:
"If any person shall feloniously steal, take and carry away, or take by robbery, any bank note, or other society or corporation within this State or within any of the United States, or any treasury warrant, debenture, certificate of stock or other public security, or certificate of stock in any corporation, or any order, bill of exchange, bond, promissory note or other obligation, either for the payment of money or for the delivery of specific articles, being the property of any other person, or of any corporation (notwithstanding any of the said particulars may be termed in law a chose in action), that person is guilty of a Class H felony."
It can be logically argued that Crystal Mangum did, in fact, take and carry away a "check or other order for the payment of money issued by or drawn on any bank.." that was to be used "..for the payment of money or for the delivery of specific articles, being the property of any other person"
Agree with Lance.....Vann is NOT going to let Mangum get on the stand. That, friends, would be fatal.
As has been said before, if the state gives her the option of a plea for a lesser charge, she best take it. Otherwise, she will go to trial and be faced with the obvious problem of proving her claim of self defense. If Vann thinks he can prove her claim of self defense without putting Mangum on the stand, he is nuts. In fact, self defense claims are rarely believed in court when the defendant does not testify.
Charges against Mangum are not going to be dropped. They may be reduced.
I still say that she is going to wind up with a plea, maybe manslaughter, and a short sentence, including time served.
All this rap from Harr is white noise, not relevant, totaly superfluous and annoying. It will have NO bearing on the case......unless, of course Vann gets pissed off and walks because Mangum and Harr are in love.
Harr, you failed to answer the question. The handwritten motions refer to "counsel" involvement......and Vann says he had none. Who is lying, Sidney?
Sid does bring up a good point (inadvertently, I'm sure)...The felony that Crystal is charged with is "Larceny of Chose in Action" -- which is covered by GS 14-75...and has no dollar amount limitation (see my earlier post).
Crystal's motion, while it mentions "Larceny of Chose in Action", actually argues that per the regulations defined in GS 14-72 (Larceny of Property) the charges should be dismissed.
In other words, she's asking for dismissal of charges that were never brought against her
Lance, yet another reason why I would hire a lawyer if I broke the law, a brain surgeon if I had a tumor, and an accountant to keep me solid with the IRS. Harr can't keep his foot out of his mouth.
Lance, given the language in GS 14-75, isn't Vann faced with the issue of having to prove that Mangum was given the checks by Mr. Daye....and given them for a specific purpose (the payment of rent), and that she had the intent to pay? How can he do that without putting her on the stand?
Also, not sure, but I think I recall that Daye actually wrote one check about a week earlier than the second check.....also made to the landlord. It makes no sense that she held this first cashier's check a week.
I guess I would also want to ask whether this whole story about Daye "giving" her the checks is a lie itself. It seems far more likely that she "took" these checks and that the argument (that led to his death) was over his discovery of what she had done.
SIDNEY HARR:
"To my knowledge, Shella volunteered to represent Mangum and was not appointed by the court. Ergo, to my knowledge, Shella was not able to have any investigation reimburst by the state... and to my knowledge, he conducted no investigation.
I did not ask Mr. Shella to stop representing Ms. Mangum. He made that determination of his own free will. Neither I nor the courts can force him to represent her if he wants out. It's easy to blame me as a scapegoat... and that's the easy way out."
First, the word is reimbursed, not "reimburst" "Reimburst" sounds like something a defective balloon would do.
Second, Mr. Shella did have to request permission of the court to cease representing Crystal. He stopped representing her because your interference made it impossible for him to effectively defend her. You were releasing confidential information to the public.
Third, "It's easy to blame" you because you do so many stupid, blameworthy things.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Hah! No smoking gun? Not even any gunpowder burns! Sorry to disappoint all of you detractors and ill-willers. Like I said before, I had nothing to do with the three handwritten motions by Mangum except to physically take them from point A to point B (the Clerk of Court's office) where they were filed."
We don't believe you.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
First, you are no mind-reader and you do not know what I think or what outcome I desire. I am no mind-reader and do not profess to know what you think... or if you think. Therefore, I will tell you what I want:
(a) for all criminal charges against Mangum to be dropped;
(b) for Mangum to be released from jail; and
(c) for the State to negotiate with Mangum using principles of restorative justice."
First, we know you do not think. Your ridiculous postings on this blog show you are incapable of rational thought.
Second: "I am no mind-reader". That is because you lack a mind. To read a mind, one has to have a mind in the first place. Evidently you lost yours years ago.
Third: "[P]rinciples of restorative justice." How about applying the "principles of restorative justice" to the harm Crystal did when she falsely accused three innocent Caucasian(an innocuous term except to a blatant, unrepentant racist) Lacrosse players of raping her. Put her to work and put all her earnings to reimbursing said innocent Caucasian Lacrosse players for the legal expenses she wrongfully caused them to incur.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Keep in mind that even though Daye was listed as the lessee, he had a living arrangement with Mangum, so she did not enter the dwelling house of another... She entered her own dwelling. Furthermore she had no intent and did not commit any felony while in the apartment. The only thing Mangum took from Daye was a beating."
You have no evidence that Reginald Daye ever beat Crystal. If you did, you would not be afraid to post her mug shot on your blog.
OK< which is it.....
If Mangum wrote these motions, with no help from Harr, then my opinion of NCCU just went from "pathetic excuse for a college" to "vocational technology classes for work release failures". If Mangum got help from Harr (which is what I think happened), then they threw in a few really stupid "miss-steaks" to make it look even more ridiculously second grade. For example, see the motion about the murder charge. What, pray tell, is "non negilignt manslaugher"?
Did Cline help Mangum? Maybe that's what happened. Cline wrote the drafts, Victoria brought over the bigot's spelling handbook, Harr played intra-penal-system courier. Nice.
SIDNEY HARR:
"[The motions] were written by a physician and had to do with Reginald Daye's true cause of death."
Dr. Nichols is a competent experienced forensic report which dealt with the true cause of Reginald Daye's death. Woody Vann read them. Why should he read the motions you authored when it is so obvious you misrepresented the facts?
It would have been more accurate representation of the facts to have said, "[The motions] were written by a [thoroughly incompetent retired] physician [who didn't have a clue to] Reginald Daye's true cause of death."
More Jeopardy:
Answer: Mind shattering, Earth shaking blog.
Question: What has SIDNEY HARR repeatedly promised then repeatedly failed to deliver?
Let's be clear, Vann said, in the Herald Sun piece, that he had not read either the original set of three motions that Harr wrote and filed (in april) OR the three motions that Harr claims he only hand carried.(in late june). The statement by Vann is plain.
Yet Sidney Harr claims that Mangum, by herself, wrote the second set of motions and that, in the second set, she explicitly references "counsel".
So, as others have said, who is lying here? Vann? Mangum? Harr and Mangum? (the correct answer is the third alternative....I'd bet a chic-fil-A bigot sandwich on it!
Anonymous @ 10:37 said:
"..I'd bet a chic-fil-A bigot sandwich on it!"
I am totally stealing this one! Thanks for the laugh :)
I have used many of yours, lance.....:)))
A line from sidney's latest blob entry:
....." their importance lied in the fact".....Oh, sidney, shirley ya dinah mean to say "lied" here....
shirley that was NOT a freudian slip and was simply another indication of your, er, uh, your rather limited education and problems with grammar and spelling. Or, perhaps, as you would have us believe, you are so very clever that you have taken to inserting little hiccups.
Exactly what kind of medicine did you practice? Herbal? Phrenology? Exorcism-by-painfully-bad-writing?
Anonymous said...
Harr, you failed to answer the question. The handwritten motions refer to "counsel" involvement......and Vann says he had none. Who is lying, Sidney?
As I have stated, I did not draft the handwritten motions and know nothing about them. I was merely the courier. I suggest you ask Ms. Mangum to elucidate you on your question.
As Plato said 2,500 years ago, “They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth.”
Sidney, here's the truth...."she stabbed him. He... died". Nichols.
"to elucidate you on your question....??? oh, you poor man, did they not have grammar in your school?
wow, funnier by the post, sidney.....
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"To my knowledge, Shella volunteered to represent Mangum and was not appointed by the court. Ergo, to my knowledge, Shella was not able to have any investigation reimburst by the state... and to my knowledge, he conducted no investigation.
I did not ask Mr. Shella to stop representing Ms. Mangum. He made that determination of his own free will. Neither I nor the courts can force him to represent her if he wants out. It's easy to blame me as a scapegoat... and that's the easy way out."
First, the word is reimbursed, not "reimburst" "Reimburst" sounds like something a defective balloon would do.
Second, Mr. Shella did have to request permission of the court to cease representing Crystal. He stopped representing her because your interference made it impossible for him to effectively defend her. You were releasing confidential information to the public.
Third, "It's easy to blame" you because you do so many stupid, blameworthy things.
I would like to thank all commenters for their input regarding grammatical and spelling errors. It is much appreciated.
I fail to see how posting a few documents could result in interference with representing Ms. Mangum.
You need to face the facts. None of Ms. Mangum's attorneys want to attack Duke University Hospital and lay the blame for Daye's death where it actually belongs... on the hospital staff. Prosecutors think they can get away with it because the mainstream media is in on the cover-up.
Dear Sidney, today's word to learn is "cacology". look it up....it has meaning for you
Oh, so now you are attacking Vann along with Shella, et al. I guess his move to bring in the top-shelf hired gun, Roberts, didn't meet with your approval, after all. Could it be that the snub from Roberts and Vann, plus the public statement by Vann that he pays no attention to you or your club, is at the root cause of your angst about his performance?
I will say again, as have others, if you think Mangum is getting poor representation, go hire her an attorney.
Anonymous said...
Lance, given the language in GS 14-75, isn't Vann faced with the issue of having to prove that Mangum was given the checks by Mr. Daye....and given them for a specific purpose (the payment of rent), and that she had the intent to pay? How can he do that without putting her on the stand?
Also, not sure, but I think I recall that Daye actually wrote one check about a week earlier than the second check.....also made to the landlord. It makes no sense that she held this first cashier's check a week.
I guess I would also want to ask whether this whole story about Daye "giving" her the checks is a lie itself. It seems far more likely that she "took" these checks and that the argument (that led to his death) was over his discovery of what she had done.
If you commenters, detractors, and ill-willers would pay attention to my informative blogs and flogs you would know that Reginald Daye gave Mangum a cashier's check for $300 on Friday, March 25, 2011, and on Friday, April 1, 2011 gave her a cashier's check in the amount of $400. Both checks combined to cover the April month's rent of $700, and because Daye was scheduled to work on Monday, April 4, 2011, Mangum agreed to pay them on that day. Why all the confusion? Pay attention to my blogs and flogs!!!
SIDNEY HARR:
"As I have stated, I did not draft the handwritten motions and know nothing about them. I was merely the courier. I suggest you ask Ms. Mangum to elucidate you on your question."
Nobody believes you.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I fail to see how posting a few documents could result in interference with representing Ms. Mangum."
Then you are deluded. You posted confidential documents which her counsel, Chris Shella, did not want shared with the public, mainly because Crystal did not have the authority to share them with anyone, including you.
You again show you believe you are above the law and have no respect for the law.
"You need to face the facts. None of Ms. Mangum's attorneys want to attack Duke University Hospital and lay the blame for Daye's death where it actually belongs... on the hospital staff. Prosecutors think they can get away with it because the mainstream media is in on the cover-up".
You have not shown that blame for Mr. Daye's death rests with Duke University Medical Center. Nor have you shown there is any kind of cover up.
You again show you are seriously deluded and certifiably insane.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
If you commenters, detractors, and ill-willers would pay attention to my informative blogs and flogs you would know that Reginald Daye gave Mangum a cashier's check for $300 on Friday, March 25, 2011, and on Friday, April 1, 2011 gave her a cashier's check in the amount of $400. Both checks combined to cover the April month's rent of $700, and because Daye was scheduled to work on Monday, April 4, 2011, Mangum agreed to pay them on that day. Why all the confusion? Pay attention to my blogs and flogs!!!
You have never published any "informative blogs and flogs".
Sid stated:
"Why all the confusion?"
Well Sid, to elucidate you on your question (totally stealing that one, too), the vast majority of the time, the best response to one of your blog entries would simply be:
TL;DR
The rest of the time, we're simply goading you into putting your foot into your mouth.
Lance, you are two for two!!! We need to produce a book called "Harrisms, or how I butchered grammar and made ham salad". "the importance lied in the fact", elucidate you, peddle to the metal, statue, reimburse.......so much material, so little time.....
Poor Sidney, he actually believes that folks read his fairy tales and accept them as facts.
I can't wait for the day Vann puts Mangum on the stand she launches into her grammar challenged, drug muddled monologue about her desperate hour of sheer terror......that resulted in chapped lips for her and, ooooopsie......dead for him.
I should have said "reimburst"......
as in, sister done elewsidated ya'll persueint to the the non negiligent manslaughter charge to which the impourtaince lied and when she done paddle her metal yur bon ami friendship was reimburse! Hosanna and Amen.....said the man from glad.....
It's a bit hard to take Harr's claims of his medical background very seriously, given that his grammar and spelling......and misuse of the english language.....are third grader material. He has justified his violation of the federal HIPPA /PHI laws by saying he didn't know about them.....another claim I find hard to believe, coming from ANY person in the medical/health professions. HIPPA has been around since the early 90s, as far as I know.
Sure makes most of us wonder . Sidney Harr has no credibility and he embarrasses himself by assuming that people actually read the nonsense he writes, and , further, assuming that anybody, I mean anybody, believes his dribble. When you lie down with dogs, you smell like Fido. When you use a serial liar for your source, you have the credibility of O J Simpson.
I believe Sidney genuinely does care what happens to Mangum and truly believes he is helping her.
I have some sympathy for Sidney's frustration at the slow pace of the NC justice system. Mangum has not received a speedy trial despite being charged almost 16 months ago. Sidney did not insert himself into the legal proceedings for almost a year.
I would have more sympathy if Sidney were not so hypocritical. Sidney is the only one on this blog who has supported the delaying tactics of a prosecutor. He excused Nifong's failure to provide DNA evidence on a timely basis, parroting Nifong's rationalization that no court date had been scheduled. The Bar properly rejected that excuse, noting that a failure to provide timely discovery could result in greater pressure on defendants to enter I to unfair pleas.
A court date is not scheduled until discovery is complete. Nifong dragged his feet on discovery and delayed the case. Sidney finds that delay honorable, but believes the same tactics are unfair when directed at Mangum.
Sidney, of course, rationalizes Nifong's delay because the defendants made bail. Being forced to spend millions of dollars and put one's life on hold for a prosecution with what Nifong later described as "no credible evidence" is only a minor inconvenience.
HIPAA is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.
Sidney must have had a hard time recognizing it. He claims to have practiced emergency medicine until 2006.
Sidney, why did you retire at such a young age (he is now 64 and retired 6 years ago)?
If harr was practicing emergency medicine till 2006, then any claim he makes of ignorance regarding HIPPA and PHI is a baldfaced lie. There is no venue in the entire healthcare delivery system that is more at risk for HIPPA issues than an ER. He knew exactly what he was doing and simply did not care.
I guess i would argue that he had no right or standing to introduce himself in the legal proceedings, period. If he was unhappy with her lawyer or the jail time, then what could have done....and should have done......was fork over money for a lawyer and fork over bail. His behavior did not help her one bit. It caused further delays and the withdrawal of a fine attorney
So, Harr would have us believe that Daye got a cashier's check for part of his rent, made to his landlord, and gave it to Mangum a full week before the rent was due. then, a week later, on the day the rent was due (the first of the month), he gets another cashier's check for the balance of the rent money and gives it to Mangum.....who was supposed to take it to the landlord three days later. right? that's Harr's story.
So, folks, does this seem a bit odd. Why would daye get a cashier's check (which costs money itself) a full week ahead of time for partial payment of the rent...UNLESS the agreement was that the payment would be made immediately. Why wouldn't he just wait till the following friday and get ONE cashier's check for the whole months' rent and pay it, then, in one check?
It seems far more likely to me that this whole scenario of Daye's "giving" the checks to mangum is a lie. It just makes no sense at all.
However, having said this....I realize that I am just speculating without any evidence.......and I argue that harr is not only just speculating.....he is basing his whole house-of-cards argument on a well known serial liar's version of events........without one shred of evidence. The fact that mangum had the checks in her purse, which she conveniently took with her when she fled from the wild and crazy Daye......is NOT, repeat NOT, proof that Daye "gave" her the checks.
Another point here......did she, or did she not, kill him in self defense during a brawl. My guess is that they were both drinking...not just him. She has a long and well known history of mixing alcohol and pills. She is the one with the convictions for violent behavior, not Daye.
Let the trial begin, let the evidence be heard, let the jury decide!
Anonymous @ 5:17:
Just being devil's advocate here -- I'd bet that Reginald Daye probably got paid on a weekly basis, and put aside the rental money in a cashier's check was one way to guarantee that the money wasn't spent. It was probably split over 2 weeks' worth of paychecks to keep too much money coming out of one particular paycheck.
With that said -- only Mr. Daye or Country Scene apartments should have had possession of those checks. Once Crystal left the apartment with them, she left herself open to the felony charge.
Anonymous said...
Lance, you are two for two!!! We need to produce a book called "Harrisms, or how I butchered grammar and made ham salad". "the importance lied in the fact", elucidate you, peddle to the metal, statue, reimburse.......so much material, so little time.....
If I can be a force for good grammar, especially in the texting world, then I accept it with honor. I must admit that often when online and with limited computer time, I do make a few errors. And I do appreciate you anonymi, detractors, and ill-willers making the effort to correct me.
You are my role model....for how NOT to behave, to communicate and to treat others. Your grammar and spelling are comical......not because you make errors (we all do), but because you continue to pontificate, preach, and pronounce yourself and Mangum as somehow above the law. We all pretty much either laugh at you or find your little enlightenment remarks silly.
If you want to do something for Mangum, buy her an attorney YOU think is suitable, and/or, bail her out.
Harr Supporter said...
I believe Sidney genuinely does care what happens to Mangum and truly believes he is helping her.
I have some sympathy for Sidney's frustration at the slow pace of the NC justice system. Mangum has not received a speedy trial despite being charged almost 16 months ago. Sidney did not insert himself into the legal proceedings for almost a year.
I would have more sympathy if Sidney were not so hypocritical. Sidney is the only one on this blog who has supported the delaying tactics of a prosecutor. He excused Nifong's failure to provide DNA evidence on a timely basis, parroting Nifong's rationalization that no court date had been scheduled. The Bar properly rejected that excuse, noting that a failure to provide timely discovery could result in greater pressure on defendants to enter I to unfair pleas.
A court date is not scheduled until discovery is complete. Nifong dragged his feet on discovery and delayed the case. Sidney finds that delay honorable, but believes the same tactics are unfair when directed at Mangum.
Sidney, of course, rationalizes Nifong's delay because the defendants made bail. Being forced to spend millions of dollars and put one's life on hold for a prosecution with what Nifong later described as "no credible evidence" is only a minor inconvenience.
There is a big difference between the murder charge against Mangum and the Duke Lacrosse case. The Mangum case, though more serious, is actually a lot similar and involves fewer individuals. The Duke Lacrosse case involved many party goers and most, if not all, of the witnesses at the party had loyalty to Duke players and did not cooperate with the investigation.
The charges against Mangum lack credible evidence and should never have been brought against her. She was the victim of abuse, not Daye. Mangum stabbed Daye in self defense and he did not die of the stab wound. The prosecution is trying to transfer responsibility for his death from Duke University Hospital, where it belongs, to Crystal.
The two cases are very different.
Thanks for pointing out the fact that I remained out of the Mangum case for more than a year... and only became actively involved when she made a request.
Just being devil's advocate here -- I'd bet that Reginald Daye probably got paid on a weekly basis, and put aside the rental money in a cashier's check was one way to guarantee that the money wasn't spent. It was probably split over 2 weeks' worth of paychecks to keep too much money coming out of one particular paycheck.
With that said -- only Mr. Daye or Country Scene apartments should have had possession of those checks. Once Crystal left the apartment with them, she left herself open to the felony charge.
Yeah, I suppose that is possible, Lance. He had to pay the fees for two cashier's checks that way...but, if he had concern about the money being blown...by himself or her....it would be possible that he would go ahead and write to cashier's checks. I recall seeing somewhere that Mangum said he did not want to take money from her that she had gotten from "male friends".....whatever that meant. On the other hand, she apparently claims that she contributed to the rent money, using funds she got from "male friends". (her statement)
She did leave the apartment with the checks in her purse, no question. There is no way Vann can prove that Daye "gave" them to her, so she could go pay the rent...without putting Mangum on the stand and letting her tell her tale...and letting her face cross examination. I'd pay for ticket to see that show!
Anonymous said...
You are my role model....for how NOT to behave, to communicate and to treat others. Your grammar and spelling are comical......not because you make errors (we all do), but because you continue to pontificate, preach, and pronounce yourself and Mangum as somehow above the law. We all pretty much either laugh at you or find your little enlightenment remarks silly.
If you want to do something for Mangum, buy her an attorney YOU think is suitable, and/or, bail her out.
It appears as though I cannot enlighten you, so I guess I'll have to be content to just entertain you.
Once again, Harr thinks that his opinions are equivalent to fact. Sad little man.
so, now he is blaming mangum and saying it was her invitation that got him into hot water with the state bar, etc. wow, does either one of these people EVER take responsibility for their own behavior?? EVER???
Anonymous said...
HIPAA is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.
Sidney must have had a hard time recognizing it. He claims to have practiced emergency medicine until 2006.
Sidney, why did you retire at such a young age (he is now 64 and retired 6 years ago)?
You have my permission to write an unauthorized biography.
Anonymous said...
So, Harr would have us believe that Daye got a cashier's check for part of his rent, made to his landlord, and gave it to Mangum a full week before the rent was due. then, a week later, on the day the rent was due (the first of the month), he gets another cashier's check for the balance of the rent money and gives it to Mangum.....who was supposed to take it to the landlord three days later. right? that's Harr's story.
So, folks, does this seem a bit odd. Why would daye get a cashier's check (which costs money itself) a full week ahead of time for partial payment of the rent...UNLESS the agreement was that the payment would be made immediately. Why wouldn't he just wait till the following friday and get ONE cashier's check for the whole months' rent and pay it, then, in one check?
It seems far more likely to me that this whole scenario of Daye's "giving" the checks to mangum is a lie. It just makes no sense at all.
However, having said this....I realize that I am just speculating without any evidence.......and I argue that harr is not only just speculating.....he is basing his whole house-of-cards argument on a well known serial liar's version of events........without one shred of evidence. The fact that mangum had the checks in her purse, which she conveniently took with her when she fled from the wild and crazy Daye......is NOT, repeat NOT, proof that Daye "gave" her the checks.
Another point here......did she, or did she not, kill him in self defense during a brawl. My guess is that they were both drinking...not just him. She has a long and well known history of mixing alcohol and pills. She is the one with the convictions for violent behavior, not Daye.
Let the trial begin, let the evidence be heard, let the jury decide!
Mangum admits to having a few drinks, but evidently not enough to persuade the authorities to obtain a blood alcohol level. As we know, Daye was totally stoned on alchol, and with him being an alcoholic, it led to his delirium tremens.
Also, what conviction for violent behavior are you talking about?
there is NO evidence that Mr. Daye was an alcoholic. Prove your assertion with evidence. It does not exist.
Mangum has a history of violent behavior....trying to run over an officer, destroying property, resisting arrest, threatening to stab a man (in the presence of an officer),and so on. She admitted to attacking walker, recently. Are you having some sort of memory disorder problem? Mangum is the one with the violent behavior in her record...........NOT Daye. Try to get this right, Sidney
What qualifications do you have, sidney, that make your opinions about the care at Duke and the assessment/report by Nichols worthy of credibility? Provide specific evidence that your intrusion has helped Mangum. and in what way? Your opinions about her lawyers are your opinions....try to figure out the difference between opinion and factili
Daye had no evidence of the kind of severe alcohol abuse you are talking about. He had a healthy liver. nice try, sidney. also, the drugs he received were/are given for a wide variety of indications. you are making assumptions that are not supported by the facts in the record which you illegally obtained and published.
You have already been contradicted and corrected by other pysicians who have said that your statementsnd conclusions are without foundation. Continuing to tell a lie, knowing it is false, is Nifong. Hi, bathrobe boy!
Sid -- Crystal Mangum plead guilty to assault on a police officer in 2002. That is considered violent behavior.
She was convicted in 2010 of contributing to child abuse or neglect for endangering her three children. That is considered violent behavior.
After the 2010 incident, Mangum admitted that she set fire to the boyfriend's clothes, smashed the windshield of his car, and threatened to stab him during their confrontation. All of this is considered violent behavior.
Or do you believe differently?
Mangum also admitted, quite recently, that she had gone after Walker with a step ladder. I'd say that qualifies as violent behavior.....
SIDNEY HARR:
"If I can be a force for good grammar, especially in the texting world, then I accept it with honor. I must admit that often when online and with limited computer time, I do make a few errors. And I do appreciate you anonymi, detractors, and ill-willers making the effort to correct me."
I, for one, am not trying to help you with anything, except to help you make more glaringly foolish mistakes.
Why I do that I really don't know. You need no help when it comes to looking like a fool.
SIDNEY HARR:
"There is a big difference between the murder charge against Mangum and the Duke Lacrosse case."
That is correct. In the Daye stabbing case there was a stabbing victim.
In the Duke Lacrosse case, there was no rape victim.
SIDNEY HAEE:
"The Duke Lacrosse case involved many party goers and most, if not all, of the witnesses at the party had loyalty to Duke players and did not cooperate with the investigation."
What DA NIFONG defined as cooperation was testimony that a rape had occurred. Since no rape had occurred, there was no way anyone could cooperate with DA NIFONG the way he wanted - except Crystal and DA NIFONG never had her interviewed until almost 9 months into the case.
More Jeopardy:
Answer: "The charges against Mangum lack credible evidence and should never have been brought against her. She was the victim of abuse, not Daye. Mangum stabbed Daye in self defense and he did not die of the stab wound. The prosecution is trying to transfer responsibility for his death from Duke University Hospital, where it belongs, to Crystal."
Question: What are the unsupported allegations SIDNEY HARR is trying to misrepresent as facts?
SIDNEY HARR(I apologize for calling you HAEE earlier):
"As we know, Daye was totally stoned on alchol, and with him being an alcoholic, it led to his delirium tremens."
All we know is that a blood alcohol measurement of 296 was obtained. There is no evidence Mr. Daye was a chronic alcoholic. Ergo, the blood alcohol value may have been a lab error.
SIDNEY never explains how anyone with a Blood alcohol that high would not be comatose. His unsupported allegations that Mr. Daye was a chronic alcoholic does not explain it. It is a dodge.
SIDNEY HARR:
"It appears as though I cannot enlighten you, so I guess I'll have to be content to just entertain you."
You are not capable either of enlightening nor entertaining anyone.
You are unaware of that because you are a narcissistic deluded megalomaniac.
SIDNEY HARR:
"You have my permission to write an unauthorized biography."
Here is a brief biographical sketch:
SIDNEY HARR is a man of low morals who, because of his narcissistic racism, conducts a vendetta against three innocent Caucasian men who were falsely accused of raping Crystal Mangum. Because of his narcissistic deluded megalomania, he believes he is above the law and does not have to respect the law. He is also known for presenting unsupported allegations and expecting them to be accepted as facts.
Crystal's motions, if nothing else, illustrate why it is a good idea to hire a lawyer to write a legal motion. She cites to [i]St. v. Small[/i], 328 N.C. 125, ___ S.E.2d ___, (1991) which does not support her claim of a right to self defense. She cites, without attribution to [i]St. v. Norris[/i] as well. Shepardizing [i]St. v. Norris[/i] reveals no case in the NC Supreme Court of Court of Appeals that by that name that stands for the right of self defense. Thus, we are left with incomprehensible argument. She should probably leave the legal drafting to Woody Vann.
Walt-in-Durham
..."probably leave the legal drafting to Woody Vann".....this gets my vote for the Common Sense Statement of the Year! thanks, Walt, always a pleasure reading your comments. They DO enlighten and inform.
Ah, today is Appreciate Chic-Fil-A day in Raleigh and I expect good old Victoria Peterson, the ever-present bigot in residence, will be down there.....eatin' chicken and waving her "God hates Fags" flag! Way to go, J4N, always a force for the Christian whackos!
Mangum is the person with the record of drunkennes and drug use. She had a drunk driving conviction in 2002. She was observed drunk at the LAX party in 2006.Her dancing partner had the police called in front of the Kroger that night because Mangum was passed out in the front seat of a car. She was engaging in drug seeking behavior at three area hospitals after the LAX party. The AG could not obtain a successful interview with her due to her apparent drug-related messed up state. She was reported intoxicated during the 2010 Walker incident. She was described as drunk by her aunt on the night of Daye's death. These are the behaviors we know about publicly. Can anybody produce a verifiable record of similar alcohol and drug related behavior on the part of Reginald Daye?
Just to be clear on the pre-2006 Mangum, so that Harr cannot endlessly blather on about her life being ruined by the LAX guys and the heehaw conspiracy...
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In 2002 Mangum racked up 10 charges, including driving while impaired, driving with a revoked license (her license has been suspended three times), eluding police, reckless driving, failure to heed a siren and lights, assault on an officer and larceny of a motor vehicle. In 2003, she pleaded guilty to four misdemeanors: larceny, speeding to elude arrest, assault on a government official and DWI. She served three weekends in jail, was placed on two years' probation and paid $4,200 in restitution and court fees."
All this THREE years before the LAX party.....
It is also useful to note that while she was married and in the Navy in California, she claimed that her husband took her into the woods someplace and tried to kill her. She filed charges against him, didn't show up for a single court date, and the charges were dismissed. She was married less than 2 years and was already pregnant by another man before she was divorced.
We already know she claimed she was raped at age 14 but never pursued charges and failed to follow through with police investigation.
Mangum admitted (recently) that she attacked Walker in 2010, went after him with a ladder, vandalized his car and set his clothes on fire. Harr's lie that it was the police who did this has been exposed by Mangum's recent admission of self guilt. She did this in front of her children.
It seems pretty clear that Crystal Mangum has had a very rough life......has never provided a stable home for her children....has made countless bad choices concerning her sex life and relationships with males....has repeatedly made accusations that turn out to be false....and has abused both alcohol and drugs for years. Does all of this mean she murdered Reginald Daye? I don't know.....but one thing is certain, of the two....Mangum has a record that proves she was and is the far more dangerous person.
"August 1, 2012 11:05 AM
Can anybody produce a verifiable record of similar alcohol and drug related behavior on the part of Reginald Daye?"
No, but SIDNEY HARR can fabricate one.
Sidney,
I think it is important to understand why you believed your original sources for what happened the night Crystal stabbed Daye were credible.
Many of your readers have alleged (unfairly in my opinion) that you simply invented the sources. I believe your sources actually do exist. I believe that your sources were your J4N or FoCM colleagues and that the sources either spoke to Crystal or claimed to have spoken to Crystal. You provided details in your early coverage that only Crystal and Daye could have known.
So, Sidney, why did you believe that your sources were credible? We don't need names, but you owe your readers an explanation.
With regard to Harr's "sources", I do not believe his sources, if they exist at all, are credible. Assuming he talks to Mangum, we can make our own assessments as to her truthfulness. Her record speaks for itself. To claim he had sources within Duke Hospital, etc, is bull. What amazes me is how Harr swears up and down that HIS version of events is the one true, god endorsed, absolute TRUTH.....then......we find out that he has either told a complete lie or he has been hookwinked by his so-called "sources". That's the excuse he gives, i.e., my sources were misinformed or my sources told me wrong, etc. Same old bull. In other words, Harr lies and blames his lies on others. If he said that he THINKS what he has been told MIGHT be possible, MAYBE is what happened, etc.......then, like all the rest of us, he is just expressing HIS OPINION. But to prattle on endlessly as though god himself annointed this wingnut to be the single source of truth on earth....is ridiculous. He has been found out over and over.....and screwed to the post...by his own mouth. Remember how he visciously claimed the police set mangum's clothes on fire? and she blurted out that SHE did it! Remember how is swore up and down that the fight between Daye and Mangum was over money....only to later say it was over a jealous fit? (convenient change of story lines....)
Bottom line, there is zero proof that any of his "sources" exist. What he claims to be "inside" information is nothing more than Mangum's fantasized version of events and, folks, that version changes far more frequently than she changes her britches.
Anonymous August 2, 2012 5:42 AM
SIDNEY's original source most likely was Crystal. Just like she changed her story about the rape she falsely accused the innocent Lacrosse players of perpetrating, she changed her story of what happened when she stabbed Reginald Daye.
In any event, Sidney presented his allegations as the truth, which further negates his already impaired credibility.
Anonymous @ 10:00 Am 8/1/12 said :SIDNEY never explains how anyone with a Blood alcohol that high would not be comatose. His unsupported allegations that Mr. Daye was a chronic alcoholic does not explain it. It is a dodge"........................... "The effect of a particular BAC varies widely; some chronic drinkers seem unaffected and appear to function normally with a BAC in the 300 to 400 mg/dL range, whereas nondrinkers and social drinkers are impaired at a BAC that is inconsequential in chronic drinkers. From The Merck Manual
KENHYDERAL:
"The effect of a particular BAC varies widely; some chronic drinkers seem unaffected and appear to function normally with a BAC in the 300 to 400 mg/dL range, whereas nondrinkers and social drinkers are impaired at a BAC that is inconsequential in chronic drinkers. From The Merck Manual"
That's one opinion.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content:
0.30–0.39
Severe central nervous system depression
Unconsciousness
Death is possible
And from Major Pathologies Associated with Acute and Chronic Alcohol Use – a Reference Summary
by Paolo DePetrillo, M.D. and Mark McDonough M.Ed.
This lists a number of co morbidities found in someone who is a chronic alcoholic, none of which, judging from the Medical Records SIDNEY HARR illegally posted, were found in Mr. Daye.
KENHYDERAL, You can't just focus on evidence which supports your case and disregard evidence which does not.
The Merck Manual is more authoratative then Wikipedia.
KENHYDERAL:
"The Merck Manual is more authoratative then Wikipedia."
It wouldn't be to you if it did not support your position.
And just because you quote from the Merck Manual does not make you more authoritative than Paolo DePetrillo, M.D. and Mark McDonough M.Ed.
Wow now we have the famous pathologist, dr kenny, running his mouth and using MM to make his diagnosis. This gets funnier all the time. Unless you were THERE to see the patient, read all the records , assess his responses, and examine his labs and autopsy findings in detail, you do not have a bleepin clue !!!! Good grief, kenny...... Talk about an arrogant axx. Neither you nor harr nor any of the rest of us are qualfifed nor experienced to be making pronouncements about Daye's physical state.
So bro, ever gonna own up to the lies you have told? Ever gonna answer questions? Ever gonna admit to your responsibility in telling lies about reginald daye?
Walt said...
Crystal's motions, if nothing else, illustrate why it is a good idea to hire a lawyer to write a legal motion. She cites to [i]St. v. Small[/i], 328 N.C. 125, ___ S.E.2d ___, (1991) which does not support her claim of a right to self defense. She cites, without attribution to [i]St. v. Norris[/i] as well. Shepardizing [i]St. v. Norris[/i] reveals no case in the NC Supreme Court of Court of Appeals that by that name that stands for the right of self defense. Thus, we are left with incomprehensible argument. She should probably leave the legal drafting to Woody Vann.
Walt-in-Durham
Hey, Walt. Crystal has been in jail for nearly 500 days, and her attorneys have yet to file a decent motion to have the ridiculous charges against her dismissed. I feel it's better that she file an error proned motion on her own behalf rather than have no motion filed.
kenhyderal said...
Anonymous @ 10:00 Am 8/1/12 said :SIDNEY never explains how anyone with a Blood alcohol that high would not be comatose. His unsupported allegations that Mr. Daye was a chronic alcoholic does not explain it. It is a dodge"........................... "The effect of a particular BAC varies widely; some chronic drinkers seem unaffected and appear to function normally with a BAC in the 300 to 400 mg/dL range, whereas nondrinkers and social drinkers are impaired at a BAC that is inconsequential in chronic drinkers. From The Merck Manual
Hey, kenhyderal. Thanks for giving enlightenment to the detractors and ill-willers about the effects of alcohol and how they vary depending upon an individual's tolerance.
Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:
"You have my permission to write an unauthorized biography."
Here is a brief biographical sketch:
SIDNEY HARR is a man of low morals who, because of his narcissistic racism, conducts a vendetta against three innocent Caucasian men who were falsely accused of raping Crystal Mangum. Because of his narcissistic deluded megalomania, he believes he is above the law and does not have to respect the law. He is also known for presenting unsupported allegations and expecting them to be accepted as facts.
Doesn't sound like my life... besides you didn't even mention my educational comic strip, "The MisAdventures of Super-Duper Cooper" and the discrimination against me by Duke University.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Hey, Walt. Crystal has been in jail for nearly 500 days, and her attorneys have yet to file a decent motion to have the ridiculous charges against her dismissed. I feel it's better that she file an error proned motion on her own behalf rather than have no motion filed."
SIDNEY, if you were really concerned about the length of Crystal's incarceration, you would have tried to bail her out.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Doesn't sound like my life... besides you didn't even mention my educational comic strip, "The MisAdventures of Super-Duper Cooper" and the discrimination against me by Duke University."
What educational comic strip? You have never published anything educational on this blog, comic or otherwise.
I do admit I found your frivolous lawsuit against Duke and the way it was bounced out of court a bit amusing.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Hey, kenhyderal. Thanks for giving enlightenment to the detractors and ill-willers about the effects of alcohol and how they vary depending upon an individual's tolerance."
Hey, SIDNEY. You have shown you are just as knowledgeable as KENHYDERAL, and that is not saying very much.
Anonymous @ 10:27 said: "And just because you quote from the Merck Manual does not make you more authoritative than Paolo DePetrillo, M.D. and Mark McDonough M.Ed."............... Very true! Now, what was it that Dr. DePetrillo and Mr. McDonough said regarding alcohol tolerence in a a chronic alcoholic? Could you provide the reference?
Anonymous @ 10:05 said: "KENHYDERAL, You can't just focus on evidence which supports your case and disregard evidence which does not" You are doing that with the evidence of a normal liver on autopsy and ignoring the labratory and eye-witness evidence of Daye, despite his high BAC being alert and functiuonal. In the past I cited a study which indicated as many as 75% of chronic alcoholics have normal livers. I'll look for that study and post a link to it when I get the chance. I'll remind you in the past I have said that none of us here can diagnose whether or not Daye was an alcoholic.
KENHYDERAL:
"Anonymous @ 10:27 said: "And just because you quote from the Merck Manual does not make you more authoritative than Paolo DePetrillo, M.D. and Mark McDonough M.Ed."............... Very true! Now, what was it that Dr. DePetrillo and Mr. McDonough said regarding alcohol tolerence in a a chronic alcoholic? Could you provide the reference?"
I did:
Major Pathologies Associated with Acute and Chronic Alcohol Use – a Reference Summary
by Paolo DePetrillo, M.D. and Mark McDonough M.Ed.
Paste that into your browser's search field and it will take you to a pdf document which you can download.
KENHYDERAL:
" I'll remind you in the past I have said that none of us here can diagnose whether or not Daye was an alcoholic."
My point exactly.
So why are you and SIDNEY trying to say he was a chronic alcoholic.
His normal liver, normal behavior and a high BAC is also consistent with a laboratory error.
Anonymous @ 1:42 said: " So why are you and SIDNEY trying to say he was a chronic alcoholic" ....... I've never said that. I have said, though, that his ability to function with such a high BAC is indicitive of chronic alcoholism. It seems that Duke Hospital came to the conclusion he was, by treating him for withdrawl symptoms.
KENHYDERAL:
"[Reginald Daye's] ability to function with such a high BAC is indicitive of chronic alcoholism."
It is also consistent with and indicative of a false lab report.
You are trying to say, after saying no one can make that diagnosis on Mr. Daye, that he was a chronic alcoholic.
Hypocrite.
Sidney,
Have you completed your investigation of Crystal's reported admission that she set fire to Walker's clothes? Are you ready to apologize to Cpl. John Tyler for repeatedly accusing him of felony arson?
Hey, Walt. Crystal has been in jail for nearly 500 days, and her attorneys have yet to file a decent motion to have the ridiculous charges against her dismissed. I feel it's better that she file an error proned motion on her own behalf rather than have no motion filed.
Sid, the problem is she didn't file an "error proned" [sic] motion. She filed an incomprehensible motion. The cases she cited do not stand for what she claims they do. In fact, the one case she did cite with authority stands for the proposition that she can't get the charges dismissed until the close of evidence at a trial. I am guessing she didn't mean that.
I am not going to tell you and Crystal how to draft a proper motion to accomplish what she might wish. She has an able lawyer who is doing a much better job of defending her than you and Crystal have done to date.
I do agree though that keeping her in jail for 500+ days without setting a trial date is unjust. Indeed, that is exactly what Nifong did on too many occasions as D.A. North Carolina really needs a state rule that gives meaning to the Sixth Amendment. However, causing delay by filing incomprehensible pro se motions is not the way to assert, let alone protect the Sixth Amendment. Those only cause delay attributable to the defendant.
Walt-in-Durham
Could the unusual delay be attributed to the weak case the prosecution has for the charges that they chose to lay? Is it a immoral strategy they have adopted to encourage acceptance, by an innocent person, of a plea deal?
Anonymous @2:37 said " You are trying to say, after saying no one can make that diagnosis on Mr. Daye, that he was a chronic alcoholic" No I'm not. You need to re-read what I wrote. I'm sure, though, Duke Hospital considered the possibility of an erroneous Lab report on his unusually high BAC before treating him for symptoms consistent with alcoholic withdrawl that he eventually began to exhibit. It appears that this treatment and not the knife wounds he suffered brought on the cerebral anoxia that led to his brain death.
KENHYDERAL:
"Could the unusual delay be attributed to the weak case the prosecution has for the charges that they chose to lay? Is it a immoral strategy they have adopted to encourage acceptance, by an innocent person, of a plea deal?"
With regard to Crystal I do not know. It seems to be the strategy DA NIFONG tried to use with the innocent, falsely accused Caucasian(an innocuous term except to a blatant, unrepentant racist) Lacrosse players.
KENHYDERAL:
" No I'm not. You need to re-read what I wrote. I'm sure, though, Duke Hospital considered the possibility of an erroneous Lab report on his unusually high BAC before treating him for symptoms consistent with alcoholic withdrawl that he eventually began to exhibit. It appears that this treatment and not the knife wounds he suffered brought on the cerebral anoxia that led to his brain death."
Yes you are trying to claim, after saying no one can diagnose Reginald Daye as an alcoholic, that he was an alcoholic.
Like your idol SIDNEY, you are incapable of determining what led to Reginald Daye's death, since you were not there pre death and not there at the autopsy.
Come to Durham and raise money for Crystal's bail and testify for her as an expert witness. It's called putting your money where your mouth is.
KENHYDERAL:
"Could the unusual delay be attributed to the weak case the prosecution has for the charges that they chose to lay? Is it a immoral strategy they have adopted to encourage acceptance, by an innocent person, of a plea deal?"
If you were aware of how disgraced former DA Tracey Cline treated Black men Frankie Washington and Leon Brown, you would realize that these delaying tactics are not at all unusual for the Durham DA's office.
Again, SIDNEY, if he really wanted to, could have prevented Crystal's long incarceration by getting together with his gang and Crystal's friends and raising bail for her.
I repeat, that would be called putting your money where your mouth is.
KENHYDERAL:
With regard to the innocent, falsely accused Caucasian Lacrosse players, no they did not spend any time incarcerated.
Since they were innocent, any incarceration would have been wrongful.
However, they were not incarcerated because their families cared for them and met the unreasonably high bail which was set.
Too bad you and SIDNEY do not have any such concern for Crystal. You lament about how long she has been incarcerated but you do not do anything about it.
" It appears that this treatment and not the knife wounds he suffered brought on the cerebral anoxia that led to his brain death."
This is, of course, in your expert medical opinion.
Ken - You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Sidney,
I see that the appellate court dismissed your motion to schedule oral argument. Any other update? Can you post your filings and Duke's responses? Your readers are interested in seeing your arguments.
kenhyderal said...
"Dr. Harr can easily prove to all here that I am not Malek Williams and that I am indeed a friend of Crystal, who has helped her out financially but, despite asking him on several occasions and providing him proof as to my veracity, he has failed to back me up. This, as well as frequent racially motivated hate speech that as the blog host he refuses to censor have caused me to leave this blog."
July 17, 2012 1:34 PM
kenhyderal said...
"Here is some good news for all those who work for justice. It is my understanding that Crystal is very close to making her bail bond."
July 22, 2012 8:55 PM
kennyhyderal:
Notwithstanding your post of July 17, you always reappear at this blog. Now that you are back, do you care to provide an update on the status of Crystal's bail? I'm sure your information will be as accurate as it has been for the past 2 years.
I think it is comical that harr gets all righteously indignant when somebody calls mangum a prostitute yet he thinks it is ok to label daye an alcoholic. Daye had a healthy liver, no documented history of alcohol or drug abuse, no drink driving arrests, etc. The drugs he was given have MANY uses. It has NOT been established in his records ( which were published illegally) for which of numerous purposes, particular drugs were given. Harr is assuming......he was not there, daye was not his patient, he did not assess daye, he has no pathology or forensic experience, has done zero or a handfull of autopsies........he is assuming daye was an alcolic.......and therefore, that he was a raging animal that night.
Who has the documented history of drug and alcohol abuse? Who has had her license suspended three times? Who had a DUI in 2002? Who was so plastered in 2006 that roberts called the police to come get her? Who admitted to drinking heavily the day she went after walker with a step ladder, vandalized his car and set his clothes on fiee? Who was so stewedon drugs that the AG could not bet a reliable interview?
Is mangum a prostitute? I dont know. Was daye an alcoholic? I dont know, but the hard evidence of liver damage suggests no. Is mangum a drug abuser, heavy drinker, violent, nine comviction criminal? Yes.
The genotype and allele frequencies of PNPLA3 rs738409 in 1043 alcoholics with or without alcoholic liver injury and in 376 at-risk drinkers from a population-based cohort. Jochen Hampe et al Christian Albrechts Universitat Kiel
KENHYDERAL:
"The genotype and allele frequencies of PNPLA3 rs738409 in 1043 alcoholics with or without alcoholic liver injury and in 376 at-risk drinkers from a population-based cohort. Jochen Hampe et al Christian Albrechts Universitat Kiel"
So what? It still does not rule a laboratory error.
From:
Genetic variation in the PNPLA3 gene is associated with alcoholic liver(downloadable as a pdf document):
"Conclusion: Genotype PNPLA3 rs738409(GG) is associated with alcoholic liver cirrhosis
and elevated aminotransferase levels in alcoholic CAUCASIANS(emphasis added). (HEPATOLOGY 2011;53:86-95)"
Have you documented Mr. Daye's Genotype. If not, it is all speculation and conjecture, not evidence.
KENHYDERAL:
From http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0027087:
"An isoleucine>methionine mutation at position 148 in the PNPLA3 gene (p.I148M, rs738409) has recently been identified as a susceptibility factor for liver damage in steatohepatitis."
Can you document Reginald Daye's genotype?
KENHYDERAL:
From http://www.webmedcentral.com/article_view/2401:
"PNPLA3 rs738409 (C10109G) polymorphism has been identified as a predisposingfactor for nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, fibrosis, alcoholic cirrhosis and elevation of serumalanine transaminase in the human."
Has such "PNPLA3 rs738409 (C10109G) polymorphism" ever been identified in Reginald Daye?
Are you arguing that a failure to identify "PNPLA3 rs738409 (C10109G) polymorphism" means that the individual is not susceptible to alcoholic liver cirrhosis?
KENHYDERAL:
From http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22087248:
"CONCLUSION:The PNPLA3 148M variant is a prominent risk factor for HCC in patients with alcoholic cirrhosis, while its effects are negligible in patients with cirrhosis due to HCV."
What does the "genotype and allele frequencies of PNPLA3 rs738409" have to do with Reginald Daye?
KENHYDERAL:
From http://www.atout-org.com/p2t2012/abstract_display!fr!!!!787b97ea-6bf3-102f-b1e6-855e464587d5!session38:
"Conclusion: this study demonstrated a strong relationship between PNPLA3 GG homozygote status and HCC in cirrhotic patients, independently from cirrhosis etiology and severity."
The autopsy report, which SIDNEY HARR illegally accessed and published, said that Mr. Daye did not have cirrhosis.
KENHYDERAL:
Here is a link which will enable you to download the article, Genetic variation in the PNPLA3 gene is associated with alcoholic liver injury in Caucasians:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:MsPqfi-z2RQJ:gidiv.ucsf.edu/course/things/Stickel.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiWbWQ0qgnYA2eJ2R-z6N4p2VTJc8k-PKtbV244nEvAqkuPNqrIGBgAH-Tc3dTjhZvg08McbKWVY7ESSwhUuYFRNJVvHp7b9vs0OMnLLIOrm11X4DDMKN3Duv60eEDcF4619iki&sig=AHIEtbTJ0kdF9sCNMeRUBWFdHl8hP1oX5A
This is the article which says that that variations in this gene is a factor in alcoholic liver injury in Caucasians. Mr. Daye was not Caucasian.
KENHYDERAL:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18820647?dopt=Abstract:
It is a link to an article accessible via PubMed entitled "Genetic variation in PNPLA3 confers susceptibility to nonalcoholic fatty liver disease."
Again, I ask, are you arguing that the lack of said Genetic variation protects an individual from Liver disease?
What evidence do you have that Mr. Daye had such a Genetic variation?
KENHYDERAL:
Again from PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21745286:
"PNPLA3 rs738409C/G polymorphism in cirrhosis: relationship with the aetiology of liver disease and hepatocellular carcinoma occurrence."
"CONCLUSIONS: The PNPLA3 rs738409 C>G polymorphism is associated with cirrhosis. In synergy with gender, this polymorphism is a strong predictor of HCC occurrence among patients with cirrhosis."
Again I remind you, Mr. Daye's autopsy showed no evidence of cirrhosis.
KENHYDERAL:
Again from PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22314430
"IL28B and PNPLA3 polymorphisms affect histological liver damage in patients with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease."
"CONCLUSIONS: In NAFLD patients, IL28B rs12979860 CC genotype, together with PNPLA3 rs738409 GG, is associated with the severity of liver damage."
Again, Mr. Daye did not have liver damage.
KENHYDERAL:
From: http://www1.easl.eu/easl2011/program/Posters/Abstract481.htm
"PNPLA3 RS734809 C/G POLYMORPHISM IN LIVER CIRRHOSIS: RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ETIOLOGY OF LIVER DISASE AND HCC OCCURRENCE"
"Conclusions: PNPLA3 rs738409 C>G polymorphism is a strong predictor of liver cirrhosis occurrence, either of viral or metabolic/alcoholic origin. Acting synergistically with patient's gender, this polymorphism appears to be associated with HCC occurrence."
Autopsy revealed Mr. Daye had a normal, i.e. non-cirrhotic liver.
Sidney,
Have you completed your investigation of Crystal's reported admission that she set fire to Walker's clothes? Are you ready to apologize to Cpl. John Tyler for repeatedly accusing him of felony arson?
More Jeopardy:
Answer: A School of Red Herringe
Question: If someone were to write a documentary of KENHYDERAL's attempts to exonerate Crystal Magum, what would the title be?
Right on kenhyderal. Anyone who actually knows Crystal rejects completely the vicious slander, that emananated from The Duke Lacrosse Defence, in an effort to destroy her credibility. These lies are ongoing and widely beleived. None of those who post their poison here have ever met Crystal. I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references. Hearing these references caused Judge Abraham Jones to declared that, from the evidence he heard, he beleived her to be "a good mother" Crystal is not and never was a prostitute. Crystal is not and never was a drug addict or an alcoholic. Crystal was a responsible parent. Crystal was a responsible member of her community. Crystal, having come from humble circumstances, was working hard to build a better like for herself and her children. Her Pastor advised her not to choose exotic dancing and escorting as a way to support herself because, regardless of her character,such a choice can be fraught with peril.
Malek Williams
Hillside H.S.
Class of 1996
Just what we need.
Another Malek Williams post, probably something copied by KENHYDERAL then pasted then credited to Malek Williams.
The studies posted are not the study I referred to. My point was that up to 75% of alcoholics, as diagnosed according to the DSM-IV code, present at autopsy with normal livers.
KENHYDERAL:
"The studies posted are not the study I referred to. My point was that up to 75% of alcoholics, as diagnosed according to the DSM-IV code, present at autopsy with normal livers."
Why did you not say that in the first place?
How many of those alcoholics can tolerate a BAC of 296?
KENHYDERAL:
It seems you are still trying to convince the world that Reginald Daye was an alcoholic - just like you are still trying to convince the world that innocent Caucasian men raped Crystal Mangum.
Right on, kennyhyderal.
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"Malek" and ken: I ask them, don't you find it strange that her friends, her professors, her classmates her teachers, her pastor, etc. all have a favorable opinion of her and have provided her with character references.
Why was Kristiana Bennett unable to identify these friends, professors, classmates, teachers, pastor, etc.? She wanted to write a positive story, but found negative news.
"Bennett agonized. 'How do you support her and then turn around and give ammunition to the defense of the Duke players?' she asked, after learning the things she wished she hadn't learned."
The Campus Echo killed Bennett's story in 2006.
KENHYDERAL:
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh21-1/05.pdf is a link to the article, Exploring Alcohol’s
Effects on Liver Function by.
JACQUELYN J. MAHER, M.D.
Here is the abstract:
"A large proportion of heavy drinkers develop serious alcoholic liver disease.
Susceptibility to alcoholic hepatitis and cirrhosis appears to be influenced by heredity, gender, diet, and co-occurring liver illness. Most alcoholic liver damage is attributed to alcohol metabolism. Liver injury may be caused by direct toxicity of metabolic by-products of alcohol as well as by inflammation induced by these byproducts. Exposure of liver cells to bacterial toxins may contribute to liver disease. Escalating liver injury can lead to fibrosis and, ultimately, to cirrhosis. Increased understanding of the mechanisms of liver injury has led to innovative treatments for alcoholic liver disease, including the use of corticosteroids, antioxidants, antibiotics, and certain polyunsaturated fats."
A quote from this abstract:
"Most alcoholic liver damage is attributed to alcohol metabolism. Liver injury may be caused by direct toxicity of metabolic by-products of alcohol as well as by inflammation induced by these byproducts."
The more alcohol chronically present, the more active is alcohol metabolism, the more production of the products of alcohol metabolism which directly or indirectly cause damage to the liver.
The question is, how can someone who can tolerate a BAC of 296 be unlikely to show signs of liver damage.
KENHYDERAL:
One wh can tolerate that level of alcohol is constantly inflicting on his liver high levels of liver toxins.
Anonymous said...
Sidney,
Have you completed your investigation of Crystal's reported admission that she set fire to Walker's clothes? Are you ready to apologize to Cpl. John Tyler for repeatedly accusing him of felony arson?
I'm busy working on a more important venture now and don't have time to talk about the blaze. I will say that Tyler is owed no apology as he allowed the fire to burn and cause severe smoke damage when he could have extinguished it himself. Instead, he rousted two dozen of Durham's bravest out of bed in the middle of the night to douse some water on a few clothes smoldering in a bathtub.
Walt said...
Hey, Walt. Crystal has been in jail for nearly 500 days, and her attorneys have yet to file a decent motion to have the ridiculous charges against her dismissed. I feel it's better that she file an error proned motion on her own behalf rather than have no motion filed.
Sid, the problem is she didn't file an "error proned" [sic] motion. She filed an incomprehensible motion. The cases she cited do not stand for what she claims they do. In fact, the one case she did cite with authority stands for the proposition that she can't get the charges dismissed until the close of evidence at a trial. I am guessing she didn't mean that.
I am not going to tell you and Crystal how to draft a proper motion to accomplish what she might wish. She has an able lawyer who is doing a much better job of defending her than you and Crystal have done to date.
I do agree though that keeping her in jail for 500+ days without setting a trial date is unjust. Indeed, that is exactly what Nifong did on too many occasions as D.A. North Carolina really needs a state rule that gives meaning to the Sixth Amendment. However, causing delay by filing incomprehensible pro se motions is not the way to assert, let alone protect the Sixth Amendment. Those only cause delay attributable to the defendant.
Walt-in-Durham
Walt, please tell me what Crystal's attorney has done for her. I am unaware of any motions filed by Woody Vann or any other actions by him on her behalf.
Regarding Mr. Nifong, I am unaware of any case in which he forced a defendant to languish in jail awaiting trial like what is taking place with Crystal.
SIDNEY HARR:
"
I'm busy working on a more important venture now and don't have time to talk about the blaze. I will say that Tyler is owed no apology as he allowed the fire to burn and cause severe smoke damage when he could have extinguished it himself. Instead, he rousted two dozen of Durham's bravest out of bed in the middle of the night to douse some water on a few clothes smoldering in a bathtub."
As high and mighty as this sounds, SIDNEY, the bottom line is you do not have the moral backbone to stand up and admit to someone you falsely accused him of a crime.
Maybe that is why you try to perpetuate the urban myth that false accuser Crystal was the victim of a crime.
SIDNEY HARR:
"Walt, please tell me what Crystal's attorney has done for her. I am unaware of any motions filed by Woody Vann or any other actions by him on her behalf."
Why am I not surprised you are unaware of Mr. Vann's activity. You are unaware of what actually transpired at the Daye stabbing, as is evidenced by your readiness to accept false information as the truth.
"Regarding Mr. Nifong, I am unaware of any case in which he forced a defendant to languish in jail awaiting trial like what is taking place with Crystal."
No, but he kept three innocent, falsely accused Caucasian men in an emotional hell because of his attempt to wrongfully convict them to further his political ambitions.
You also remain unaware of what happened to Frankie Washington and Leon Brown at the hands of disgraced ex DA Tracey Cline, mainly because yo do not want to know.
SIDNEY HARR:
"I'm busy working on a more important venture now and don't have time to talk about the blaze."
Translation: I do not want to face the fact that I DID falsely accuse Cpl. John Tyler of arson.
No class, no character Harr....refusing to admit he lied about an officer and now making up a silly refusal to apologize. No class. You continue to make an ass of yourself.
You who are NOT a lawyer presume to know better than Vann and Shella what should be done with/for Mangum? You? What an embarrassment you are.....
So, now the court date is tomorrow, the 7th. Just another day in whacko Durham. Who will show up at Mangum's side? the ever present bigot, Peterson? The wingnut king, Harr? The best friend, Kenny boy? The entire Afro American studies faculty from Duke? Sharpton? Perhaps the conscious twins, Nifong and Cline?
I wonder if Harr will do his usual hypocritical two-face turnaround dance if Vann pulls off getting Mangum's bail reduced, etc. Will Vann suddenly become the darling of the "we are above the law" crowd? And where is the hovering hired gun, Dr. Roberts? Has she answered Harr's letter, giving her directions on how to testify? Perhaps not. Will the case continue to roll along in the usual Durham style, with Mangum getting yet another favor, pass and excuse? Will she wind up with time served? For killing a man???
Looks like Sid's discrimination case is officially over.
This is my 2nd post covering this topic - my first was removed. Nice work, Sid.
Know what really galls me about this wingnut? ......that actual court time, of senior judges, is taken up with this silliness. perhaps he will take his case to the supreme court and argue before the court himself. never let a little thing like reality get in the way.....
wow, now Harr tells us that he will not apologize for lying about the officer who he claimed set Walker's clothes on fire. His excuse for not apologizing.....well, gee whiz, the officer called the fire department. golly heck dern...it's ok to lie about an officer because, shucks, the officer went and did the darn right thing....and called the firemen. golly gosh, old Mangum can set clothes on fire in an apartment building WITH HER CHILDREN PRESENT......and hey, shoot, what's a girl to do when she runs out of ladders to beat up her current boyfriend with? Sets the damn clothes on FIRE, vandalizes the car, attacks the man......and gets a big wet sloppy kiss from Harr. Can you bleepin believe it??
But the officer, who does his job, is maligned with a LIE (what else from Harr).
Geez, I guess Sister should get an award from stabbing a man to death and the dead man should be crucified and have his character destroyed.
I think one of the funniest saddest lines of the Mangum debacle since 2006 came from the judge who said he thought she was a "good mother".
That one has to go down in the books, folks.....right along side.
1. What iceberg? I didn't see no iceberg....Titantic lookout
2. How do you spell unemployed?.....Cline
3.Ah is gwine ta beat up dem bad men ovter that there Dook place....Harr
4. I am not a prostitute.....I just am reeeeeel friendly with men.....Mangum
5.Where's my bathrobe?......Nifong
SIDNEY HARR:
Any more impotent posturing about your ridiculous frivolous lawsuit against Duke.
We know you are resentful of the settlement the innocent, falsely accused Lacrosse players received. However, they had a legitimate cause of action. You did not.
As someone who occasionally reads this site, because I find it absurdly funny and out of touch with reality, I DO want to comment that (IMHO) there many many people in Durham who want fairness and justice for Mangum......AND who think that Nifong got exactly what he deserved. Mangum deserves a fair trial, an opportunity to present her side of the story, a chance to be heard by a jury, and .....depending on the verdict.....she also deserves to walk or to serve her sentence.
I think Harr wants others to believe that anybody who agrees with the outcome of the LAX case is some kind of bigoted racist who wants Mangum crucified. That is simply NOT TRUE.
Lance the Intern said...
Looks like Sid's discrimination case is officially over.
This is my 2nd post covering this topic - my first was removed. Nice work, Sid.
Intern, thanks for updating commenters about the status of my discrimination law suit against Duke... however, it's not over til it's over. Have you heard of the U.S. Supreme Court?
Oh pleeeeeze, bro. The Supreme Court? You think the Court is going to agree to hear this matter? If you do, then you need your meds adjusted. If you are just being stupidly arrogant or silly, then you are wasting time...and the time of others. either way, a dumb comment by you....as usual
SIDNEY HARR:
"Intern, thanks for updating commenters about the status of my discrimination law suit against Duke... however, it's not over til it's over. Have you heard of the U.S. Supreme Court?"
We have all heard of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court does not review frivolous non meritorious cases.
Does the Supreme Court allow a layman to argue his case pro se?
SIDNEY HARR:
Do you know that lawyers appearing before the Supreme Court are expected to be dressed very formally.
You show up there with your J4N t shirt and you will not be allowed to appear, even if you believe you are above the law.
Oh, geez, I think Harr would show up in his little yellow shirt and then file suit against Chief Justice Roberts, claiming his civil rights are violated, when the Court orders his disrespectful backside removed.
"Does the Supreme Court allow a layman to argue his case pro se?" Indeed, they do. BTDT, the pro se petitioner got tossed out without so much as a hearing date, but they did consider his petition for writ of certiorari. It was a pathetic case really and my client was awarded over $100,000 in attorney fees which of course we could never collect because the pro se litigant was judgment proof. Periodically my old law firm sends out a debt collector to badger the guy. I will say it was a great experience for a young lawyer though. I briefed the case through two rounds of appeal and I filed a brief in opposition to the petition for writ of certiorari. The case also padded my winning statistics and more importantly, my billable hours.
Sid's frivolous litigation against Duke is just serving to enrich some associate at some large lawfirm and to prove the old adage that the lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. The really sad thing here is, Sid had a viable claim against Duke but refused to pursue it. That makes his continuance of his case that much the worse.
Walt-in-Durham
well said, Walt. And exactly on point.....
I would not try to do brain surgery on myself, try to do my car's front end alignment, try to fight an audit with the IRS, try to cut my own hair, or try to be my own lawyer. Dumb and dumber!
SIDNEY HARR:
I predict a whole caravan of camels will get through the eye of the Biblical needle before you ever get to argue before the Supreme Court.
Why not try Judge Judy? I am sure whoever defends Duke would love to give you a chance to, in Judge Judy's words, make a fool of yourself on National tv in front of millions of people.
Imagine it. Hundreds of YouTube videos devoted to showing SIDNEY making a fool of himself.
walt, say more about your thoughts of why sid would not pursue the claim?
Anybody else, besides old cynical me, wonder about the credibility, actual educational effort, and true worthiness....involved in Mangum getting a degree from NCCU in 2008. I recall that her supposed presence as an enrolled student could not be verified. Kinda makes one wonder whether she got a pass from the local black community and the chancellor over at high achievement u. Given the quality of her writing, spelling, etc in the so-called Mangum motions, I'd say she didn't get much further than 7th grade......but, hey, they give degrees in afro studies out like candy over at duke these days.....and call people like Wahneeeema "scholars".....even tho she has YET to publish her now ten-year "forthcoming" book.
Is reverse racism alive and kickin? You bet it is. And is it just as ugly as the garden variety Klan kind.....you bet it is.
Sid: I have begun work on a secret project...
You remind me of Animal House.
I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Sidney B. Harr is just the guy to do it.
Crystal's case was continued to September 17.
However, big news: the case has moved to the second setting. Sidney, congratulations. The case is progressing.
Is there a news brief on what happened in mangum' court today? Just wondering
It is useful to know as much as possible of the truth of Mangum's background......not just the fantasy stuff in the media and/or the equally fantastical nonsense in her "book". There is no doubt she had a lousy beginning and that the parenting she got was not so great. (neither of her parents did anything at all about her claims of being raped in her teens....) She has a documented history of making accusations against male partners and supposed attackers that have turned out to be false She has a documented history of both alcohol and drug abuse. She has nine convictions for criminal offenses. She had her driver's license suspended three times before 2004. She has three children and until recently, the kids have not had stable relationships with male fathers/providers. One could make the argument she killed the man who actually offered her shelter and provision for her children. You can also say that the remark by the judge who said she was a "good mother" is wildly ridiculous.....she exposed her children to violence, vandalism on her part, drunkenness, sexual misconduct on her part, and...ultimately, exposed at least one to substantial risk by fleeing the scene of a killing and running directly to the place where her child was.....all the while not knowing whether the "attacker/victim" would follow her.
On the plus side, she can claim a degree from NCCU, part time work (doing what some of us consider a truly awful and degrading job), and an apparent ability to work/manipulate the "system".
What amazes me is how she has managed, for so long, to skirt responsibility, to be given a pass, to avoid paying the consequence of lying about the LAX guys, to get a lightweight punishment in 2010. It's pretty easy to make an argument that Crystal Mangum's continued misbehavior is at least, in part, directly related to her allowed and supported "victimhood" status in Durham
Why the continuance? Can't find anything in the news on this....
Anonymous said...
Why the continuance? Can't find anything in the news on this....
When it comes to Crystal Mangum's case, you can count on the media to go into "Cover-Up" mode. They keep everything about the case under concealment... except in their feeble attempts to put Mangum supporters in a bad light.
Here's some news you probably won't get in the media: I just filed a complaint with the State Bar against Woody Hayes.
Who is Woody Hayes? The ex-Ohio State football coach? Why does the Bar have jurisdiction over a dead football coach?
Sid: They [the media] keep everything about the case under concealment.
The media does not cover most trials. Most readers don't find Crystal's case particularly interesting. There is no cover-up.
Woody Hayes? What did he do or not do concerning Mangum? I hate to be ignert, as they say, but I have no clue whether you meant Woody Hayes or Woody Vann. And what does Woody Hayes have to do with Nifong??....supposedly your reason for this web site, as in Justice 4 NIFONG...
Usually it's pretty easy to go to the county gov/court web site and find the court schedule, notices, etc. I just couldn't locate this particular one. Lance or Walt, what's up?
wow, I have not ever experienced the media as covering up or favoring mangum......quite the contrary. One could hardly turn on the TV without the disgusting site of Nancy G. or the entire MSNBC crowd or Jesse or Al or Nifong slobbering all over the "victim". Talk about bias! The N&O, the Herald Sun-up-your-Axx, the local rags....all did a hatchet job on the LAX guys. The New York Times, that supposed icon of journalistic integrity, all but lynched the players.
I think Harr would say that the media were ALL, collectively, acting fairly and in an unbiased manner, so long as they were slobbering overe Mangum. When the truth emerged about Nifong and Mangum, and the same media darlings had to eat a supersize plate of crow, then, all of a sudden, they were biased and unfair. Yep, that's pretty much how it went down.
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