Sunday, July 8, 2012

The only thing Crystal Mangum took from Reginald Daye was a beating


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As problematic as the first degree murder charge is against Crystal Mangum, the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser, the two count charge of larceny that she also faces stretches the already excessive bounds of incredulity even further by using a little known, rarely used law… North Carolina General Statute § 14-75 Larceny in chose of action.
 First, to review the abject flaws in the first degree murder charge… Crystal Mangum was arrested on the morning of Sunday, April 3, 2011, hours after Reginald Daye, a man in his mid-forties with whom she had cohabitated for approximately one month, sustained a non-fatal stab wound to his left torso.

Durham Police, whose investigation into the stabbing resulted solely from accounts given by Mr. Daye and his nephew Carlos Wilson, suggested that Daye and Mangum were arguing over money, that Mangum stabbed Daye with a kitchen knife, grabbed his money, and then fled.

Investigators did note at Daye’s apartment, where the incident took place, that clumps of hair most likely belonging to Mangum were deposited at two sites, and that the bathroom door was kicked in.

Objective information readily accessible also included the fact that Daye had a stuporous alcohol blood level of 296 mg/dL, and a background check would have yielded that he had a lengthy past criminal record that included assault of a female.

Review of the EMS evaluation of Mangum would have brought forth the fact that she had a swollen lower lip, a small laceration around her left eye, and a lesion to the back of her left hand.

Investigators never interviewed Mangum for her side of the story before placing her under arrest for assault with intent to kill Reginald Daye.

Had authorities bothered, they would have learned from Ms. Mangum the truth behind the incident of April 3, 2011… events unfolding as follows:

Reginald Daye was a heavy alcoholic, who according to Crystal would drink up to a case of beer during a weekday, and consume a gallon of whiskey on weekends. He had been drinking the evening of Saturday, April 2, 2011, when they attended a birthday party arriving about an hour before midnight. Daye drank at the party, and then after a couple of hours, he drove himself and Crystal back to the apartment they shared.

In the parking lot nearby the apartment, Crystal saw a police officer she knew and began a conversation with him. Reginald Daye became jealous over the attention she gave to him and demanded that she accompany him to the apartment. When she lingered, Daye became enraged and began shouting at her, which led to an argument. Money, rent, and finances were not discussed or the subject of the argument.

Frightened and concerned about Daye’s outburst, Mangum asked the officer to give her a ride to a friend’s residence, whereupon the officer instructed Mangum and Daye to take their argument inside. Mangum complied and went with Daye to the second floor apartment… sustaining a cut to her knee when being dragged up some stairs.

Once inside the apartment, the intoxicated Daye punched her, spit on her, and pulled out her hair. When she retreated to the bathroom and locked the door behind her in seeking refuge from her abuser, Daye kicked in the door, knocking it off its hinges. The terror inside the apartment, which Mangum estimates at lasting an hour, included Daye bringing in steak knives from the kitchen and throwing them at her. Finally, when Daye was atop Mangum with both of his hand around her neck choking her, she desperately grabbed a knife that was lying within reach, and stabbed Daye once in the left side.

Daye got up off of Mangum after the stabbing and she jumped to her feet, grabbed her purse, which contained two cashier’s checks, and fled the apartment… with Daye giving short pursuit.

Mangum walked to a friend’s apartment close by, and was given shelter for the remainder of the morning… until police arrived and immediately handcuffed and arrested her. A statement given by the woman, Ms. Howard, to police recorded that upon answering the door, a sobbing Mangum said, “He beat me.”

Two days later, on Tuesday, April 5, 2011, police returned to Ms. Howard’s apartment and retrieved the two cashier’s checks that had been in Mangum’s purse. These two cashier’s checks would be the basis for the larceny charge against Mangum.

Reginald Daye’s condition on arrival to the emergency department at Duke University Hospital was stable enough to undergo a diagnostic CAT scan prior to emergency surgery. Findings at surgery revealed a laceration to the colon, which was repaired with sutures, and a small lesion to the spleen which was treated with electrocautery and Surgi-cel. Daye tolerated the successful surgery and had a prognosis for a full recovery.

Although Daye had received treatment for alcohol withdrawal, his signs and symptoms worsened with agitation, tachycardia, and high blood pressure to the point where he was transferred to the surgical intensive care unit.

On the third postoperative day, in preparation for a diagnostic study, contrast agent was introduced into Daye’s stomach via an n-g tube. Sometime shortly thereafter he vomited.

Concerns about protecting the airway from aspiration and to administer high concentrations of oxygen, the decision was made to intubate Daye. After receiving paralytic medication to facilitate the process, Daye was intubated with an 8 mm tube. However, the end tidal CO2 value, which indicates proper placement, was negative and tube placement was then reassessed visually and deemed to be correctly positioned.

Sometime thereafter, Daye went into a cardiac arrest, at which time cardiopulmonary resuscitation was begun. The endotracheal tube was removed and Daye was re-intubated with a smaller 7.5 mm tube. This placement gave a positive value for the EtCO2.

According to records, CPR lasted twenty minutes before the heart was resuscitated and began pumping oxygenated blood throughout the body. Unfortunately, the brain is extremely sensitive to oxygen deprivation and the brain cells died leaving Daye in what doctors considered to be an irreversible coma. After a week without any neurological improvement, the medical staff, with approval of Daye’s family, removed Reginald from life support after which he shortly succumbed.

Dr. Clay Nichols, the medical examiner, later produced an autopsy report which included findings not substantiated and contradicted by other medical records and logic… such as injuries and repairs to organs and tissues not mentioned in the operative report. Also Dr. Nichols concluded that the cause of death was due to complications of a stab wound to the chest… omitting mention that the proximate cause of Daye’s death was his elective removal from life support, not mentioning that Daye was removed from life support due to a diagnosis of irreversible brain death, not mentioning that esophageal intubation led to a cardiac arrest and brain death, and producing no nexus between Daye’s stab wound and his brain death or actual death.

Using this fraudulent and faulty autopsy report of April 14, 2011 as its basis, Prosecutor Kelly Gauger charged Crystal Mangum with first degree murder.

The first degree murder charge has a sentence that includes the death penalty and life in prison… and a life of imprisonment for Crystal Mangum would be the goal of the Durham prosecutor’s office. A requirement for charging a defendant with murder in the first degree is that the act be premeditated… something that would be impossible for the prosecutors to prove, so they get around this by using an insidious and draconian statute called the “felony-murder rule.”

The felony-murder rule enables prosecutors to upgrade charges of second degree murder where they cannot prove premeditation to first degree if they can show that the murder was linked to the commission of another felonious criminal act… such as robbery, rape, or burglary.

So the Durham District Attorney Leon Stanback and assistant D.A.s Kelly Gauger and Charlene Coggins-Franks are counting on their two count larceny charge to represent the related felonious action that would advance the murder charge from second to first degree.

However, the larceny charge is totally bogus on all accounts, and to charge Ms. Mangum with it is deceitful, malicious, and unethical. The relevant issues and facts regarding the basis of that charge are as follows:

Around the beginning of March 2011, Crystal Mangum and her three children moved into Reginald Daye’s apartment at his invitation. Within weeks, Mangum and Daye were involved in an intimate relationship. Reginald Daye worked as a house painter on weekdays during the hours when the apartment office was open. On Friday, March 25, 2011, Daye obtained a cashier’s check for $300.00 made out to Country Scene Apartments… the amount a little less than half of the monthly rent. That day he gave the check to Crystal so that she could drop it off at the rental office while he was at work on Monday, April 4, 2011. Crystal put the check in her purse for safekeeping.

The following Friday, April 1, 2011, Daye procured another cashier’s check listing Country Scene Apartments as the payee in the amount of $400.00. That day he also handed the check over to Mangum so that she could deliver it, along with the check for $300, which would cover the rent of $700, to the rental office the following Monday, April 4, 2011. As before, Crystal put the check in her purse, and gave it no further thought.

In the early morning hours of Sunday, April 3, 2011, an intoxicated Daye began arguing with Mangum because he perceived her to be flirting with a police officer. The argument had absolutely nothing to do with money, cashier’s checks or rent. Inside Daye’s apartment the argument turned violent and after approximately an hour of torment and terror, Mangum stabbed Daye in self defense, and before fleeing she grabbed her purse, which contained the two cashier’s checks.

Without obtaining her version of the events that transpired early that morning, Mangum was immediately arrested and charged with assault with intent to kill Reginald Daye. Two days later, police returned to Ms. Howard’s apartment to retrieve the two cashier’s checks.

Prosecutors charged Mangum with two counts of larceny (one count for each check) even though Daye gave both of the cashier’s checks to Crystal Mangum, Daye never asked for Crystal to return them, Crystal never took them from Daye, Crystal could not have converted them for her use as she was neither the payee nor the remitter, and that Daye always had the ability to redeem the value of the cashier’s checks as long as they were not claimed by the payee.

The fact that a cashier’s check can only be converted by the payee or remitter is so universally understood, that the State Employees Credit Union, upon which the cashier’s checks were drawn, have no written policy that explains what happens when a remitter loses a cashier’s check or has it stolen. It is understood by everyone that if unclaimed by the payee, a cashier’s check can be redeemed by the remitter without problem.

Therefore, although Daye may not have been in physical contact with the cashier’s checks, he always retained the value of them… they were of no fiscal value to Crystal Mangum. Consequently, it would make absolutely no sense for him to argue to take possession of the checks, for him to fret over not having physical possession of the checks, or for Mangum to covet the physical possession of them and refuse to turn them over to Daye upon his request. The case made by prosecutors for larceny involving the two cashier’s checks is absurd and defies not only the facts and evidence, but common sense and logic.

Prosecutor Charlene Coggins-Franks is using a little known – rarely used law in charging Mangum… North Carolina General Statute § 14-75 Larceny of chose in action. It begins as follows: “If any person shall feloniously steal, take and carry away, or take by robbery, any bank note, check or other order for the payment of money issued by or drawn on any bank or other society or corporation within this State or within any of the United States, or any treasury warrant, debenture, certificate of stock or other public security, or certificate of stock in any corporation, or any order, bill of exchange, bond, promissory note or other obligation”… This does not apply to Crystal’s case as the cashier’s checks were voluntarily given to her by Daye with the intention of her handing them over to the manager in the rental office.

It concludes: .. “either for the payment of money or for the delivery of specific articles, being the property of any other person, or of any corporation (notwithstanding any of the said particulars may be termed in law a chose in action), that person is guilty of a Class H felony.” This part of the rule is not applicable either because Mangum was in possession of one cashier’s check for nine days and the second one for two days, and she made no attempt to alter or convert them for her own use.

The importance of saddling Mangum with this larceny charge is for the purpose of bringing the felony-murder rule into play in order to upgrade the murder charge to first degree, as the prosecution is planning to try and have Mangum sentenced to life in prison.

The felony-murder rule in North Carolina’s homicide law reads as follows: “A murder which shall be committed in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of any arson, rape or a sex offense, robbery, kidnapping, burglary, or other felony committed or attempted with the use of a deadly weapon shall be deemed to be murder in the first degree, a Class A felony, and any person who commits such murder shall be punished with death or imprisonment in the State's prison for life without parole.”

The first degree murder charge is without basis on many aspects. First and foremost, Daye did not die as a result of the stab wound… he was electively removed from life support after a botched intubation by Duke University staff left him brain dead.

More importantly, Crystal Mangum stabbed Reginald Daye in self-defense.

Secondly, the underlying “larceny of chose in action” is bogus itself, as the cashier’s checks were given to Mangum by Daye and because she made no effort and had no intent to convert them to cash.

District Attorney Leon Stanback is wasting taxpayer money by allowing Prosecutor Charlene Coggins-Franks to proceed with this vendetta prosecution against Mangum as payback for her role in the Duke Lacrosse case. Taxpayer dollars are also going down the drain for her unjust incarceration in the Durham County Detention Center which is well over a year now.

The corruption and widespread conspiracy surrounding the cruel prosecution has claimed as conspirators and conspirators-after-the-fact: Governor Bev Perdue, Durham District Attorney Stanback, Prosecutor Coggins-Franks, and all of those who are aware of the injustice while being in positions to do something about it and yet refraining. The criminal justice system in the state is broken, especially in Durham County.

The problems that are currently plaguing Durham’s justice system would not be present if Mike Nifong were still in position as the Durham D.A. Mike Nifong is a man of integrity who represented himself in the truest sense as a “minister of justice”… meting out justice equally and in accordance with the law. A district attorney possessing integrity would not allow an innocent person to remain in custody on bogus charges based on a vendetta prosecution.

Durham District Attorney Leon Stanback knows that the murder and larceny charges against Ms. Mangum are fraudulent, but after witnessing the public crucifixion of Nifong by the state and the media when he dared to stand up and do the right thing by prosecuting the Duke Lacrosse case, the present D.A. has learned his lesson and will not challenge the Powers-That-Be… even when justice is on his side.

To recap, prosecutors wanted to have Crystal Mangum sentenced to life in prison for Reginald Daye’s death, which in actuality had nothing to do with the stab wound she inflicted in self-defense. Sentencing guidelines required that a Class A murder, punishable by death or life in prison without the possibility of parole, be premeditated. Because the stabbing of Daye was definitely not premeditated, prosecutors decided to use the “Felony-Murder rule” to bring the charge of murder in the first degree.

The felony-murder rule allows a murder to be classified as first degree if the victim’s death is linked to the commission of another felony crime. Because larceny in the amount of $700 is only a misdemeanor crime as it is less than the thousand dollar threshold needed for a felony, it would not be helpful in bringing the felony-murder rule into play.

The Larceny of Chose in Action charge is a little known-rarely used law that specifically addresses the theft of checks, money orders, and bank notes for their unlawful conversion. This crime is a felony irrespective of the value of the checks or bank notes… and so prosecutors elected to use it to meet prerequisites of the murder-felony rule.

The Larceny of Chose in Action charge is so rarely used that Attorney Woody Vann, who currently represents Ms. Mangum, told me that he couldn’t even recall hearing of such a charge being brought to court.

As a comparison, take the case of Daniel Edward Atkinson, in the Wake County Court for larceny of five checks. The arrest warrant stated that he used the checks to get $936… This would amount to a misdemeanor under the larceny of property NCGS statute § 14-72 …. However, under a charge of Larceny of Chose in Action, this crime would be a felony. This is a case that specifically applies to the crime committed by Mr. Atkinson, yet he was not charged with Larceny of Chose in Action… and he was not charged with five counts, one for each check unlawfully taken.

Ms. Mangum, on the other hand, never stole the checks… they were given to her by Reginald Daye. Unlike Mr. Atkinson, she never altered or attempted to convert the checks for her use. The basic requirements for the charge of Larceny of Chose in Action are never met in the prosecutor’s case against Mangum.

Keeping things in perspective, the value of both cashier’s checks to Mangum was nil. Theft of a roll of bathroom tissue would represent a more legitimate case for larceny than two cashier’s checks that are worthless to her.

Likewise, Reginald Daye, by not having physical possession of the cashier’s checks, always retained their value, and theft of a roll of bathroom tissue would represent a more substantial loss for Daye than the cashier’s checks.

If the larceny charge based on the two cashier’s checks was made in good faith, Mangum would have been charged with it shortly after her arrest on April 3, 2011. As it is, the Larceny of Chose in Action charge was filed on the same day as the murder charge, April 18, 2011, and was used to boost the murder to first degree… all for the purpose of keeping Crystal Mangum behind bars for life without the possibility of parole… a victim of domestic violence who inflicted a non-fatal stab wound to Daye in order to save her life.

D.A. Stanback and prosecutor Coggins-Franks are dearly holding on to the trumped up Larceny of Chose in Action charge for the cruel and inhumane purpose of keeping Crystal Mangum behind bars for the rest of her life.

I repeat… this travesty of justice would not be happening if Mike Nifong was still the Durham district attorney.

141 comments:

Anonymous said...

There are so many LIES, distortions, leaps of fantasy and downright hogwash buckets in this last piece from Harr that it is pointless to waste time and bandwidth rehashing them. Thgis guy is seriously ill, I mean, off his trolley.
Just to name ONE of the many LIES.....Mr. Daye did NOT have a lengthy criminal record and the charge of domestic assault was DROPPED against him!
Harr knows this, has been called out for the liar he is on this point several times, and yet continues to spew his lies.
Want to know who has the lengthy criminal record? Crystal Mangum........nine convictions!

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:


"The only thing Crystal Mangum took from Reginald Daye was a beating"

So why did her mug shot NOT show any evidence of a beating. Why did her ER exam show no evidence of a beating.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"As problematic as the first degree murder charge is against Crystal Mangum, the Duke Lacrosse victim/accuser..."

fCrystal Mangum is the Duke Lacrosse False accuser/victimizer.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Reginald Daye, a man in his mid-forties with whom she had cohabitated for approximately one month, sustained a non-fatal stab wound to his left torso."

In case you haven't noticed, SIDNEY, Mr. Daye is dead. He died of complications of the medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Daye had a stuporous alcohol blood level of 296 mg/dL, and a background check would have yielded that he had a lengthy past criminal record that included assault of a female."

If Reginald Daye had a blood alcohol level which was "stuporous" he would not have been able to perpetrate the attack you allege he perpetrated.

He would have been vulnerable to an assailant with a kitchen knife.

He had a history of an assault on a female which was dismissed by a District Attorney?

Why do you, like your boy KENHYDERAL, do you distort the facts?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:
"
Review of the EMS evaluation of Mangum would have brought forth the fact that she had a swollen lower lip, a small laceration around her left eye, and a lesion to the back of her left hand."

The ER record you posted noted that Crystal had minor injuries which required no treatment.

Why do you misrepresent the facts?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"
Frightened and concerned about Daye’s outburst, Mangum asked the officer to give her a ride to a friend’s residence, whereupon the officer instructed Mangum and Daye to take their argument inside. Mangum complied and went with Daye to the second floor apartment… sustaining a cut to her knee when being dragged up some stairs."

This is another fabricated attempt to make your implausible sound rational. It is more misrepresentation of the facts.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Dr. Clay Nichols, the medical examiner, later produced an autopsy report which included findings not substantiated and contradicted by other medical records and logic… such as injuries and repairs to organs and tissues not mentioned in the operative report."

SIDNEY, you have demonstrated in your blog posts you understand nothing about medicine or surgery.

You did the public a big favor and greatly increased public safety from questionable medical care when you left the practice of medicine.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Daye was intubated with an 8 mm tube. However, the end tidal CO2 value, which indicates proper placement, was negative and tube placement was then reassessed visually and deemed to be correctly positioned."

You are backing off from your claim that the ET tube was placed in the esophagus.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Once inside the apartment, the intoxicated Daye punched her, spit on her, and pulled out her hair. When she retreated to the bathroom and locked the door behind her in seeking refuge from her abuser, Daye kicked in the door, knocking it off its hinges. The terror inside the apartment, which Mangum estimates at lasting an hour, included Daye bringing in steak knives from the kitchen and throwing them at her. Finally, when Daye was atop Mangum with both of his hand around her neck choking her, she desperately grabbed a knife that was lying within reach, and stabbed Daye once in the left side. "

The source of all this is not the police report but Crystal who has been shown to be a false accuser and a non credible witness who likes to make up the"facts" she reports.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I repeat… this travesty of justice would not be happening if Mike Nifong was still the Durham district attorney"

That you call it a "travesty of justice" means nothing since you are conducting a vendetta which is a true mockery of justice.

No, this would not have happened if DA NIFONG were still DA NIFONG. DA NIFONG would not have been able to curry favor with the Durham black electorate by prosecuting a black woman.

Not much attention was paid to the prosecution of black rapist, Michael Jermaine Burch, who was allowed to plead to lesser charges.

Lance the Intern said...

"So the Durham District Attorney Leon Stanback and assistant D.A.s Kelly Gauger and Charlene Coggins-Franks are counting on their two count larceny charge to represent the related felonious action that would advance the murder charge from second to first degree."

Why no mention of the previous DA, Tracy Cline?

Lance the Intern said...

Since you seem to cherry pick those questions that you respond to, I will ask post this again:

"Hey, Lance. I have not spoken to Professor Coleman since April 14, 2010"

So -- Even though Professor Coleman is one of DU's advisers to the Innocence Project, you have not spoken to him (you're so-called "friend") in over 2 years, nor have you contacted the Innocence Project about Crystal Mangum's case -- a case in which you feel strongly that she is factually innocent and has been unjustly incarcerated for over 1 year?

That, Sid is staggeringly unbelievable.

You DO realize that you do not need to visit the DU campus in order to contact Professor Coleman, don't you?

Here -- I'll help you:
email: jcoleman@law.duke.edu
Tel: 919-613-7057

North Carolina Center on Actual Innocence:
email: admin@nccai.org

Lance the Intern said...

When are you going to post the contents of the 3 motions that Crystal wrote?

Anonymous said...

Where is kennyhyderal?

Anonymous said...

;ure dribble. and harr knows it. what a bleeping waste of time.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

You forgot to mention Crystal's pre Lacrosse case criminal record:

Stealing a car, driving drunk and speeding, attempting to run down a policeman.

That is a matter of public record you do not want to post on your blog.

Anonymous said...

Lie: no assault on female. that charge was DROPPED as has been confirmed many times. no lengthy criminal record
Omission: Mangum is the one with the lengthy criminal record. Nine convictions.
Not evidence: No documentation in record of ANY of Mangum self defense claim. No evidence of beating. No choke bruises or other marks on her throat. No injuries requiring treatment.
Not evidence: Mangum story about asking officer for help and being dragged up steps not in evidence/no record of this entire version is reported by officer(s)
Not evidence: No record of any hair plugs as being from Mangum, no record showing hair actually "pulled", no record of how long hair had been in apartment
Not in evidence: No record as to who may have damaged bathroom door, when the damage occured, how extensive it was, no report of evidence that knives were thrown at Mangum
Not in evidence: No "beating" physical evidence.
Not in evidence: No proof that Daye "gave" checks to Mangum. She will have testify and show WHY she had two checks, and held one for more than a week when her story was that the rent was due.
Lie and distortion: No documentation that Daye was an alcoholic or was in stupor. No medical evidence to support claim of alcoholism. No medical evidence to support claim that he was given drug specifically for delirium/withdrawal. Note: drugs he was given have MANY uses and applications, particularly for patient in his condition
LIE: Daye died of complications directly resulting from the stab wound. Proximate cause is clearly established. He was not medically murdered, Harr previously claimed
Unexplained: Why did Mangum pass multiple rental unit doors, where she could have screamed for help in escape from Daye? Why did she flee the scene and run to her aunt's home where she put her child at risk .....of attack from a following Daye?
Unexplained: Mangum's aunt said Mangum appeared to be drunk, laying apartment floor. Ordering her CHILD to call 911 and telling the child, word for word, what to say. Why didn't she tell the aunt to call 911?
Ironic: Daye had no history of violence toward others. Mangum did and does have this history....long before the fictional jihad heehaw ever began.
Illegal behavior on Harr's part: playing lawyer wannabe. Illegally published confidential information.
Immoral behavior on Harr's part: disrespecting the dead and the deceased's family by lying about Mr. Daye and publishing confidential medical records in violation of HIPPA. Harr urges readers to respect and have gratitude for a convicted felon, drug seller, Darnell Jones.
Lie: Harr's relationship with James Coleman. Harr is not a close personal friend to Professor Coleman.
Lie: Harr is for equal treatment and justice for ALL. harr endorses behavior of the bigoted racist, victoria peterson, and by doing so, endorses repeated human rights violations against LGBT people.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Reginald Daye, a man in his mid-forties with whom she had cohabitated for approximately one month, sustained a non-fatal stab wound to his left torso."

In case you haven't noticed, SIDNEY, Mr. Daye is dead. He died of complications of the medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound.


Daye died because of a medical mistake in treating impending delirium tremens... The intubation was not required for treating the stab wound (which was non-fatal).

Keep in mind that Daye would not have been stabbed had he not been choking Crystal.

Anonymous said...

Mangum will most likely be found guilty of second degree or manslaughter.....and she will get less than ten year sentence.
If they offer a plea deal, look for Vann to urge Mangum to take it. He does NOT want to put this woman on the stand.

Anonymous said...

Bull, there is NO evidence to support mangum's claim of self defense. None. Zip. Nada.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Daye had a stuporous alcohol blood level of 296 mg/dL, and a background check would have yielded that he had a lengthy past criminal record that included assault of a female."

If Reginald Daye had a blood alcohol level which was "stuporous" he would not have been able to perpetrate the attack you allege he perpetrated.

He would have been vulnerable to an assailant with a kitchen knife.

He had a history of an assault on a female which was dismissed by a District Attorney?

Why do you, like your boy KENHYDERAL, do you distort the facts?


I do not distort the facts:
Fact #1: Daye's blood alcohol was 296 mg/dL
Fact #2: A blood alcohol level of 296 would cause a non-alcoholic adult male to be in a stupor
Fact #3: Daye was not in a stupor because as an alcoholic he had developed tolerance to alcohol and could appear to function normally with such a level
Fact #4: Daye did have a lengthy criminal record that included assault on a female.

Tell me, amigo, where are the distortions?

Lance the Intern said...

Sid -- I ask again, when are you going to post the 3 motions Crystal wrote?

I'm starting to believe that you fear posting them, as any review of these documents would find indications that you were the author.

So post them, so that everyone can see.....

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
"So the Durham District Attorney Leon Stanback and assistant D.A.s Kelly Gauger and Charlene Coggins-Franks are counting on their two count larceny charge to represent the related felonious action that would advance the murder charge from second to first degree."

Why no mention of the previous DA, Tracy Cline?


Intern,
Ms. Cline was not mentioned because she is no longer the current district attorney. Kelly Gauger is mentioned because she was the initial and chief prosecutor and brought the charges and Charlene Coggins-Franks is the current prosecutor... and Mr. Stanback is the current district attorney.

Comprende?

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Once inside the apartment, the intoxicated Daye punched her, spit on her, and pulled out her hair. When she retreated to the bathroom and locked the door behind her in seeking refuge from her abuser, Daye kicked in the door, knocking it off its hinges. The terror inside the apartment, which Mangum estimates at lasting an hour, included Daye bringing in steak knives from the kitchen and throwing them at her. Finally, when Daye was atop Mangum with both of his hand around her neck choking her, she desperately grabbed a knife that was lying within reach, and stabbed Daye once in the left side. "

The source of all this is not the police report but Crystal who has been shown to be a false accuser and a non credible witness who likes to make up the"facts" she reports.


What is Daye's and/or the police version of events? They were arguing over cashier's checks that were worthless to Crystal and that Crystal kicked in the bathroom door, and that she pulled out her hair, and that she punched herself in the face, and then for no reason at all stabbed an intoxicated Daye in the side? I think Crystal's version makes much more sense.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Daye was intubated with an 8 mm tube. However, the end tidal CO2 value, which indicates proper placement, was negative and tube placement was then reassessed visually and deemed to be correctly positioned."

You are backing off from your claim that the ET tube was placed in the esophagus.


No, what I'm saying is that the 8.0mm tube was placed in the esophagus, and when the EtCO2 was negative (indicating that it was not in the airway), the Duke staff member visually checked the position and erroneously concluded that it was properly placed.

Let me know if you require further elucidation.

Anonymous said...

Daye had no liver damage and no other signs of chronic alcohol abuse. There is no history of criminal DUI, reckless driving. THIS history is Mangum's. You are so deluded that you can't remember who has the documented history of drunkenness!
The charge of assault was DROPPED and you know it. You are a liar.
Cline was not mentioned by you because she is a Nifong puppet and guilty of the same morally corrupt behavior as her convicted teacher.
The DA's version of events, as you call it, will be presented in court....not in public on this silly web site.
There was NO evidence of beating or choking, BRO.

Anonymous said...

prattle all you want. This woman is finally going to get what she should have gotten long ago.....i.e. ......justice! Not a pass, not an okiedoke-we-will-let-you-off-this-time, not a pity pardon like the AG graciously gave her, not a spank on the wrist. This time the evidence will be presented , in court, IF an attorney stays on the case long ago to take it to trial.
Fact is, you have no clue, no medical experience, no expertise that qualifies you to make the medical leaps of fantasy that you are making. Want to post your CV so that it can be compared to the team of surgeons who cared for Reginald Daye, Harr? Compared to the credentials and forensic experience of Dr. Nichols? come on, prove to us just how qualified YOU are to be playing not only lawyer but doctor.

Anonymous said...

OK, since you are in fantasy land, how about we take another look at the events of the night....with another "version".
They were both drinking and got in a lover's quarrel because he found out that she did not pay the rent with the checks and he wanted the checks given back to him. She refused to hand over the checks. The bathroom door had been broken a long time; not that night and not be a kick by him. There was no hair on the floor except her weaves which she strewed all over the floor because she was drunk and a slob of a houseguest. She threw objects at him, yelled at him, cursed him, and raised a racket so loud, the police were called. Both were told to take their argument inside and settle down. He went after her purse to get back his property and she, in a drunken rage, stabbed him. She left him on the floor, bloody, and hightailed it, with her purse, to her aunt's house. she made her kid call 911 and forced the kid to give a story of daye coming after her.
that, bro, is just as likely to have happened, based on the evidence, as your crackpot fantasy!

Anonymous said...

Another question....
Harr claims to have expertise superior to Nichols and the surgeons at Duke. He claims that HIS version of Daye's condition, his treatment, his death, etc. is accurate........NOT Nichols, not the documentation of care by the Duke surgeons. In fact, Harr paints himself as quite the expert, disputing the findings of Nichols.
So, here is the question, if Harr is an expert, why didn't Vann hire HIM as his expert witness? Harr would do it for free, I am sure, with no travel costs. Harr would get on the stand and enlighten the jury, dazzle them with his medical expertise and wow them into finding poor Mangum innocent. Why hire some paid witness from out of town if Harr is available?
Is it because Harr is NOT an expert? Is it because Harr is NOT credible?
Hmmmmmm............

Anonymous said...

With regard to the hour of sheer terror beating, pounding, choking, punching in the face that harr says happened.....
1. No physical injury to Mangum's throat...no bruises consistent with choking. FYI, attempts at choking a person almost ALWAYS leave bruises and marks. check it out...well established in forensic literature.
2.No physical evidence of punching. a tiny laceration/mark on her cheeck that one officer reported, another did not notice...and required no treatment.
one officer said her lip might be swollen. another said she had chapped lip. no treatment required.
3. harr claims she had scratch on her knee from being dragged. no evidence to support this claim.
4. harr claims daye pulled out her hair. no evidence to support this claim.
If daye, who harr describes as a woman beating wild man, in a drunken stupor, yet able to beat her up, get on top of her, roll off a bed with her, kick in a door chasing her, pull out her hair, throw knives at her......IF this guy was this wild, yet stuporously drunk, he must have been the weakest wimpiest puncher and choker in Durham that night. He beat the crap out of her for an hour, choked her.....and left no marks? Reallllyyyy????and she was so scared of this wimp that she stabbed him? He wailed on her for 60 minutes, left not one punch mark, and she is scared of him??? reallllly, harr, ya gotta do better. your stuff is gettin way boring....

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Fact #3: Daye was not in a stupor because as an alcoholic he had developed tolerance to alcohol and could appear to function normally with such a level
Fact #4: Daye did have a lengthy criminal record that included assault on a female."

Regard to fact number 3, you do not know that he was a chronic alcoholic - at autopsy his liver were normal. Even if he were an alcoholic, a Blood Alcohol, tolerance notwithstanding, would have rendered him incapacitated at the least.

With regard to fact number 4, you, probably deliberately, for at least the third time, have omitted that the DA dismissed that charge, which means you at least three times distorted this fact about Reginald Daye.

And you claim you have morals.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Ms. Cline was not mentioned because she is no longer the current district attorney. Kelly Gauger is mentioned because she was the initial and chief prosecutor and brought the charges and Charlene Coggins-Franks is the current prosecutor... and Mr. Stanback is the current district attorney."

Ms. Cline was probably not mentioned because she was an unethical black prosecutor who wrongfully prosecuted innocent people, at least two of whom were black, facts to which you choose to be blind.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"
What is Daye's and/or the police version of events? They were arguing over cashier's checks that were worthless to Crystal and that Crystal kicked in the bathroom door, and that she pulled out her hair, and that she punched herself in the face, and then for no reason at all stabbed an intoxicated Daye in the side? I think Crystal's version makes much more sense."

Yu are dragging in more red herrings.

Mr. Daye's report was that Crystal stabbed him and took his money.

OK, Crystal had checks, not money. Mr. Daye said she took them. He did not say he gave them to her. Crystal said that.

Crystal is a non credible witness who tries to fabricate stories in an attempt to institute personal posterior camouflage.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"No, what I'm saying is that the 8.0mm tube was placed in the esophagus, and when the EtCO2 was negative (indicating that it was not in the airway), the Duke staff member visually checked the position and erroneously concluded that it was properly placed.

Let me know if you require further elucidation."

So, what you are actually doing is distorting and misrepresenting another fact.

And you think you can provide elucidatiom?

That is not surprising, since you also think you are a man of high moral standards, even though you have been conducting a racially motivated vendetta against three innocent Caucasian(an innocuous term except to a blatant, unrepentant racist) men, you misrepresent facts in order to disparage a dead man.

Anonymous said...

In my comment of
July 9, 2012 10:53 AM I should have said:

Regard to fact number 3, you do not know that he was a chronic alcoholic - at autopsy his liver were normal. Even if he were an alcoholic, a Blood Alcohol of 296, tolerance notwithstanding, would have rendered him incapacitated at the least.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Where is your acolyte KENHYDERAL?

Is he still reeling from the proof that he misrepresented facts in order to support his claim that Crystal was raped?

His silence indicates he does not want to answer, he can not answer, or both.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"What is Daye's and/or the police version of events? They were arguing over cashier's checks that were worthless to Crystal and that Crystal kicked in the bathroom door, and that she pulled out her hair, and that she punched herself in the face, and then for no reason at all stabbed an intoxicated Daye in the side? I think Crystal's version makes much more sense."

This is from a man who says he believes Crystal was the victim of a gang rape perpetrated by members of the Duke Lacrosse team, even though there was no evidence the rape ever happened(a fact which SIDNEY has never addressed, only dodged).

What more can anyone say about what SIDNEY thinks makes sense?

Anonymous said...

Bahahahahahahahaha...... Harr on the witness stand as a defense expert witness! Perfect. When do the trial tickets go on sale??????

Anonymous said...

More Jeopardy

Answer: Heavy weight expert witness.

Question: What has Woody Vann not obtained to testify on behalf of Crystal Mangum, SIDNEY HARR's opinion notwithstanding?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

First Justice58 disappeared, then wacko quacko Kilgo, then the individual I called the anonymous irrelephant in the room. KENHYDERAL has not made an appearance in a few weeks.

It seems a lot of people have lost faith in your vendetta.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Or at least in your ability to carry it out.

Anonymous said...

I think it is comical that sidney continues to use the photo of mangum that was taken at her, uh, "press conference to release her, uh, book". it's the one with her all dressed up in her suit. Hilarious.
funny, too, how the rest of us can see, with no difficulty at all, the rest of the photos.....including the mug shot with her smirking at the camera, or the ones with her on the floor at the LAX party, the other dancer astraddle her, or the mugs of her from 2010 and 2011. but, nooooooo, harr shows us the one shot where she has been all cleaned up by Vincent Clark. (another user of her.....)
I don't object to harr using the photo he selects......what I object to is his utter lack of objectivity and fairness.....in refusing to show the rest of the photos! talk about bias...

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

By publishing the above named photo at the head of this post, you misrepresent the facts.

Crystal's mug shot, after she was taken into custody after the stabbing, after she was examined in the ER, shows not evidence she was assaulted. It was consistent with the ER finding, that she had minor injuries for which she required no treatment.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the whole business of the two cashier's checks isn't just another Harr herring..... The checks may not have had anything, at ALL, to do with the stabbing. We have only heard Harr bizarre version of the events. I am anxious for this case to come to trial so that we can hear the other side of the story. Given that Mangum has a history of battling with boyfriends (remember 2010), you would have to think there was drunkenness on the part of both Daye and Mangum, destruction of property (the apartment was trashed and showed evidence of disorder, liquor, etc, per the police report), obvious argument and loud disturbance (the police were called), and violence. (importantly, she showed NO evidence of physical assault by him, regardless of her tales of being beaten and choked).
I doubt this is first degree murder unless there is evidence we have not yet heard about....which could certainly be forthcoming during trial. It sounds very much like second or manslaughter. How Vann can prove this whole web of self defense without putting Mangum on the stand.....who knows.....but if I were him, I would not want Mangum on the stand. She is liable to change her story, just as she did with the LAX case.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR has put the defense in an untenable position. Crystal wants to say self defense. Woody Vann can not present this as her defense without putting Crystal on the stand.

Woody Vann does not have a heavyweight expert witness who can raise doubt about the autopsy findings.

Anonymous said...

Woody Vann's best chance of getting any kind of leniency for Crystal would be a plea bargain.

But can any one convince Crystal she should take a plea bargain. I say again, Woody Vann can not make a case for self defense without putting Crystal on the stand. Crystal would not stand up well under cross examination.

Anonymous said...

As much as Harr would like to fantasize otherwise, the law is pretty clear about proximate cause.....as far as this lay person knows. There is no way that Mangum-Harr,attorney wannabes , are going to gain any traction with the notion that Mangum is somehow not responsible for Daye's death. I can just hear Vann trying to make an argument that Duke killed Mr. Daye as part of the great white conspiracy and get-even fantasy that Harr spews regularly. Or, could Vann get in front of a jury and tell them that the entire media-Duke-justice system evil empire conspired to frame one Crystal Mangum and somehow murdered Daye?
This is ultimately going to come down to some sort of battle over second versus manslaugher.....with a sentence of less than ten years. I bet she gets less than five years.
Of course, I am NOT a lawyer nor a doctor wannabe, unlike Harr. Most all of us want a fair trial for Mangum and, I would go so far as to say....that most of us are just sick and tired of hearing about her, and her behavior, and her tales of woe.

Anonymous said...

That Duke killed Reginald Daye would be, I think, an affirmative defense. The defense would have to prove Duke killed Reginald Daye via medical malpractice or whatever.

SIDNEY HARR would not be acceptable to the court as an expert witness.

Woody Vann's hired gun is a lightweight compared to Doctor Nichols.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_defense:

"Because an affirmative defense requires an assertion of facts beyond those claimed by the plaintiff, generally the party who offers an affirmative defense bears the burden of proof.[6]"

The source cited is Oran, Daniel; Mark Tosti (2000). Oran's Dictionary of the Law. Delmar. p. 20. ISBN 0-7668-1742-3.

Anonymous said...

This is interesting:

From http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Affirmative+Defense:

"The rules that govern Pleading in most courts require a defendant to raise all affirmative defenses when first responding to the civil claim or criminal charges against him or her. Failure to do so may preclude assertion of that kind of defense later in the trial."

Did Crystal claim self defense at the time of the initial pleading?

Anonymous said...

Lance and Walt? What's the deal with affirmative defense and the timing of Mangum's version that this was self defense? Does anybody know what Shella had in mine before he withdrew?
Note: I am not asking Harr...

Anonymous said...

the photo Harr has attached to his latest piece of trash is , as another poster has indicated, misleading and highly misrepresentative. It is a photo taken the day she had a big deal press conference about her book with vincent clark. it is not current. harr should have shown her mug shot from the 2011 event but he won't do it because it clearly shows she had NO injuries consistent with this severe beating she was supposed to have suffered. false and misleading.

Anonymous said...

What do you call a white man who would actually want to have sex with Crystal Mangum - blind.

Anonymous said...

Interesting coincidence?
Mangum said, in front of a police officer, that she was "going to stab you, XXXXXX" in 2010...during the brawl with the then-current BF. And, she stabs Daye.
Mangum said one of the LAX guiys told her, during the non-existence attack, "you're not going anywhere". She now says , per Harr, that Daye uttered those EXACT SAME words, "You're not going anywhere" during the brawl they had.
Two episodes of drunk fighting and violence....involving threat and reality of stabbing. Two episodes involving claimed violence, toward her, with her attacker uttering identical words during the attack.
Oh....and a third nasty little similarity/coincidence. Her children were directly involved in the 2010 cow-fight and her child was made to place the 2011 911 call...seeing her drunk, and rolling on the floor in her aunt's residence. NICE, huh.

Anonymous said...

All the people who thought Mangum ought to get a pass for lying about the rape hoax should be, at least in some measure, held accountable for Mr. Daye's death and for the abuse heaped on Mangum's children over the years by her own choices. I hope the Duke 88, and Jesse, and Al, and Peterson, and the Panthers, and Nancy Grace, and the NY Times are proud of themselves. Where are they now? Who among them has the courage and decency to apologize to the Daye family? Why isn't Wahneema Lubiano, the Listening Ad author, offering to help the Mangum children who Crystal exposed to a sorry lifestyle? Why isn't Harr offering sympathy and respect to the Daye family instead of lying about and defaming Mr. Daye?
How many lives have been hurt, destroyed, crushed because of the liar Mangum and the amoral Nifong

Anonymous said...

I get fund raising requests from Duke every year. Every year I send them 88 pennies. 'Nuff said.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Have you lost your way to the library?

Where is KENHYDERAL?

For that mater, what ever happened to Justice58, to wacko quacko Kilgo, to the anonymous irrelephant in the room, all erstwhile SIDNEY HARR supporters?

Anonymous said...

"the cruel and inhumane purpose of keeping Mangum behind bars the rest of her life"...... wow, sidney, you the judge and jury now? we don't even have to have trials anymore....do we. let's just have good old lawyer-doctor-wannabe Harr make the decision and, so long as it all fits with his evil-white-oppressor agenda, the accused will be excused! think of taxpyer money we can save, folks. of course, there is that teeny little problem of "justice".
Harr doesn't want to include Cline in his DA rant because (a) she is black and (b)she is a Nifong pawn. Would be kinda embarrassing for the minister of justice if Harr had to admit that it was CLINE who was in office when good old Sista got herself in jail and got charged.....in 2010 and 2011. Yep, that would be a little bit embarrassing for Atticus Harr.....to have to admit that the notorious OVERcharger was the UNDERcompetent no-conscious Cline

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
prattle all you want. This woman is finally going to get what she should have gotten long ago.....i.e. ......justice! Not a pass, not an okiedoke-we-will-let-you-off-this-time, not a pity pardon like the AG graciously gave her, not a spank on the wrist. This time the evidence will be presented , in court, IF an attorney stays on the case long ago to take it to trial.
Fact is, you have no clue, no medical experience, no expertise that qualifies you to make the medical leaps of fantasy that you are making. Want to post your CV so that it can be compared to the team of surgeons who cared for Reginald Daye, Harr? Compared to the credentials and forensic experience of Dr. Nichols? come on, prove to us just how qualified YOU are to be playing not only lawyer but doctor.


I know nothing of the credentials of Dr. Nichols. I only know that his findings in the autopsy report of April 14, 2011, are not supported and contradicted by the operative report... for example the operative report mentioned nothing about lesions to the left lung, diaphragm, left kidney or fundus of the stomach.... and no lesions to the left upper extremity. The conclusion by Dr. Nichols fails to mention Daye's problems with alcoholic withdrawal, omits mention of the botched intubation which led to brain death and cardiac arrest, omits mention of the elective removal of Daye from life support which resulted in Daye's death. You don't need an MD sheepskin to understand that the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols lacks credibility.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
OK, since you are in fantasy land, how about we take another look at the events of the night....with another "version".
They were both drinking and got in a lover's quarrel because he found out that she did not pay the rent with the checks and he wanted the checks given back to him. She refused to hand over the checks. The bathroom door had been broken a long time; not that night and not be a kick by him. There was no hair on the floor except her weaves which she strewed all over the floor because she was drunk and a slob of a houseguest. She threw objects at him, yelled at him, cursed him, and raised a racket so loud, the police were called. Both were told to take their argument inside and settle down. He went after her purse to get back his property and she, in a drunken rage, stabbed him. She left him on the floor, bloody, and hightailed it, with her purse, to her aunt's house. she made her kid call 911 and forced the kid to give a story of daye coming after her.
that, bro, is just as likely to have happened, based on the evidence, as your crackpot fantasy!


Your version of events is lacking in logic. First, the cashier's checks were given to Mangum in order for her to drop them off at the rental office on Monday, April 4, 2011. The altercation in which she fought for her life took place the wee hours of Sunday, April 3, 2011. Ergo, your version is without a motive... no reason for the conflict to take place.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Another question....
Harr claims to have expertise superior to Nichols and the surgeons at Duke. He claims that HIS version of Daye's condition, his treatment, his death, etc. is accurate........NOT Nichols, not the documentation of care by the Duke surgeons. In fact, Harr paints himself as quite the expert, disputing the findings of Nichols.
So, here is the question, if Harr is an expert, why didn't Vann hire HIM as his expert witness? Harr would do it for free, I am sure, with no travel costs. Harr would get on the stand and enlighten the jury, dazzle them with his medical expertise and wow them into finding poor Mangum innocent. Why hire some paid witness from out of town if Harr is available?
Is it because Harr is NOT an expert? Is it because Harr is NOT credible?
Hmmmmmm............


You forget. It is not I who lack credibility... it is the autopsy report of April 14, 2011 by Dr. Nichols.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"
What is Daye's and/or the police version of events? They were arguing over cashier's checks that were worthless to Crystal and that Crystal kicked in the bathroom door, and that she pulled out her hair, and that she punched herself in the face, and then for no reason at all stabbed an intoxicated Daye in the side? I think Crystal's version makes much more sense."

Yu are dragging in more red herrings.

Mr. Daye's report was that Crystal stabbed him and took his money.

OK, Crystal had checks, not money. Mr. Daye said she took them. He did not say he gave them to her. Crystal said that.

Crystal is a non credible witness who tries to fabricate stories in an attempt to institute personal posterior camouflage.


Nice of you to admit that Daye lied when he told police that Mangum took his "money." But because someone other than Crystal lied it's no big deal... right?

Is it Daye's version that this was essentially an armed robbery? To my knowledge, she was never charged with that.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
In my comment of
July 9, 2012 10:53 AM I should have said:

Regard to fact number 3, you do not know that he was a chronic alcoholic - at autopsy his liver were normal. Even if he were an alcoholic, a Blood Alcohol of 296, tolerance notwithstanding, would have rendered him incapacitated at the least.


Correction... a blood alcohol of 296 mg/dL would render a non-alcoholic adult male stuporous. His alcoholism, enable Daye to function at a level which would have incapacitated a vast majority of men.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I know nothing of the credentials of Dr. Nichols. I only know that his findings in the autopsy report of April 14, 2011, are not supported and contradicted by the operative report".

You could find out something about the credentials of Dr. Nichols had you searched on the internet. Just like you chose to be ignorant of Leon Brown and Frankie Washington, you chose to be ignorant of Dr. Nichols credentials.

So far as your "knowledge" of the autopsy report, why don't you offer your services to Crystal gratis as an expert witness. Let's see if the court believes you have the qualifications to be an expert witness on pathology and surgery.

Questions you would be asked on cross examination would be, How many major surgical procedures have you performed. How many autopsies have you performed. Just ask your so called friend, Professor Coleman.

Your answer to both questions would have to be, ZERO. That would destroy your credibility as an expert witness.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
As much as Harr would like to fantasize otherwise, the law is pretty clear about proximate cause.....as far as this lay person knows. There is no way that Mangum-Harr,attorney wannabes , are going to gain any traction with the notion that Mangum is somehow not responsible for Daye's death. I can just hear Vann trying to make an argument that Duke killed Mr. Daye as part of the great white conspiracy and get-even fantasy that Harr spews regularly. Or, could Vann get in front of a jury and tell them that the entire media-Duke-justice system evil empire conspired to frame one Crystal Mangum and somehow murdered Daye?
This is ultimately going to come down to some sort of battle over second versus manslaugher.....with a sentence of less than ten years. I bet she gets less than five years.
Of course, I am NOT a lawyer nor a doctor wannabe, unlike Harr. Most all of us want a fair trial for Mangum and, I would go so far as to say....that most of us are just sick and tired of hearing about her, and her behavior, and her tales of woe.


A piece of free elucidation for you: The bogus charges against Mangum will never go to trial because the prosecution has no case... nada... nil... zip.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The conclusion by Dr. Nichols fails to mention Daye's problems with alcoholic withdrawal, omits mention of the botched intubation".

As someone who has done autopsies and has signed autopsy reports, I say a pathologist is in no position to comment on whether or not the deceased had gone through alcohol withdrawl.

The medical records posted illegally by you document that the ET tube was correctly placed. This is another example of you deliberately misrepresenting facts.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
Woody Vann's best chance of getting any kind of leniency for Crystal would be a plea bargain.

But can any one convince Crystal she should take a plea bargain. I say again, Woody Vann can not make a case for self defense without putting Crystal on the stand. Crystal would not stand up well under cross examination.


Hah! A plea bargain is just what the prosecution is praying for because they know they have no case.

Thereby, go ye enlightened.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"A piece of free elucidation for you: The bogus charges against Mangum will never go to trial because the prosecution has no case... nada... nil... zip."

No matter how much you say that, it has no legal weight or significance at all.

It is just another manifestation of your deluded megalomania, you belief that you and Crystal are above the law.

You have been saying for months that the charges would be dropped. The charges still stand.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Hah! A plea bargain is just what the prosecution is praying for because they know they have no case.

Thereby, go ye enlightened."

Go yourself and enlighten yourself. Your meddling in the case has made Woody Vann's chance of proving self defense impossible. Woody Vann can not make such a defense without putting Crystl on the stand and Crystal will not stand up to cross examination. She will not be able to prove self defense.

You can not testify to what Crystal told you. Just ask your so called friend Professor Coleman.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Just something incidental. You claim Professor Coleman is your friend. Where has Professor Coleman ever claimed you as a friend. Where has Professor Coleman actually publicly said something like, SIDNEY HARR is my friend?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Correction... a blood alcohol of 296 mg/dL would render a non-alcoholic adult male stuporous. His alcoholism, enable Daye to function at a level which would have incapacitated a vast majority of men."

Wrong. Even in a chronic alcoholic, a blood alcohol that high would have rendered the victim non functional.

Anonymous said...

1 SIDNEY HARR:

"Nice of you to admit that Daye lied when he told police that Mangum took his "money." But because someone other than Crystal lied it's no big deal... right?

Is it Daye's version that this was essentially an armed robbery? To my knowledge, she was never charged with that."

Red Herring, Straw Man defense.

You said, "What is Daye's and/or the police version of events?", implying that Reginald Daye's version of events is unknown.

Reginald Daye version of events was that his girlfriend stabbed him and took his money. According to Mr. Daye's nephew, and this is not in dispute, Crystal was Mr. Daye's girlfriend.

The account of Reginald Daye attacking Crystal and severely beating Crystal comes from Crystal. Crystal has been shown to be non credible, to fabricate explanations of what happened. There was no evidence on the ER record or on Crystal's mug shot, after she was arrested for stabbing Mr. Daye, showed no evidence of a severe beating.

If I recall correctly, she alleged a severe beating at the hands of the Lacrosse players on the night of 13/14 March 2006. Neither the physical exam nor the police photo of Crystal taken shortly after she alleged rape, showed no evidence of a severe beating.

SIDNEY, why don't you deal with the facts instead of disparaging the deceased.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Your repeated use of red herrings and straw men shows you can not make a case for the innocence of Crystal.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"You forget. It is not I who lack credibility... it is the autopsy report of April 14, 2011 by Dr. Nichols."

Who besides you says the autopsy report of Dr. Nichols lacks credibility.

You again show you think you are above the law. You think your decision that the autopsy report lacks credibility trumps the court's authority.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Why don't you ask your so called friend Professor Coleman whether or not the autopsy report lacks credibility?

Or is your friendship with Professor Coleman another lie you try to pass off as the truth.

And you claim you have credibility.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"You forget. It is not I who lack credibility..."

You tried to say that Moez Elmostafa was paid off by the Seligman family, something DA NIFONG never claimed.

You say that DA NIFONG's well deserved downfall was the result of a powerful carpetbagger jihad, the existence of which you have provide any hard evidence.

And you claim "It is not I who lack credibility..."!

You truly are a deluded megalomaniac.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Your version of events is lacking in logic. First, the cashier's checks were given to Mangum in order for her to drop them off at the rental office on Monday, April 4, 2011. The altercation in which she fought for her life took place the wee hours of Sunday, April 3, 2011. Ergo, your version is without a motive... no reason for the conflict to take place."

Whether or not this account is true, I do not know.

I do know, SIDNEY would do better for himself and for Crystal by trying to show that Self Defense is a proveable affirmative defense.

All SIDNEY does is make unsubstantiated allegations and demand the court accept them.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Your version of events is lacking in logic."

When have you ever demonstrated a grasp of what is or what is not logical. When have you grown pointed ears?

You, who have said that it is reasonable to believe in the carpetbagger jihad initiated by Mrs. Rae Evans?

I have pointed out to you on multiple occasions that Mrs. Evans did not make her statement to 60 Minutes until the case against DA NIFONG was largely completed.

Just like you choose to be ignorant of Dr. Nichols credentials, you choose to be ignorant of that fact.

And, again, you claim logic shows there is a carpetbagger jihad.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

How come it took you two plus days to find your way back to the library?

And where are KENHYDERAL, Justice58, wacko quacko Kilgo and the anonymous irrelephant in the room, all who have at one time expressed support for your views.

Lance the Intern said...

When are you going to post the contents of the 3 motions that Crystal wrote?

Lance the Intern said...

Why haven't you contacted Professor Coleman or the North Carolina Center on Actual Innocence?

Anonymous said...

How did sister get beat and choked for an hour without having any injuries consistent with that kind of attack?
Not going to trial, harr? Care to make a wager? The only way mangum is not going to trial is if she pleads to a lesser charge.
Wanna bet on it bro?

Anonymous said...

I repeat.....mangum will plead and get five years or less with time served. Vann has no choice .

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

We are all awaiting to see what kind of straw men, what kind of red herrings you will try to create today.

Anonymous said...

Why did you interfere with Shella and create further delays for Mangum? Why did you interfere and cause Mangum to have to have the very attorney she did NOT want, a year ago? Why have you violated inappropriate practice guidelines, yet again, by being involved in preparation of a second set of motions? why have you consistently LIED about Mr. Daye's criminal record, or lack thereof? Why have you consistently accused Duke of medical murder and consistently claimed that you, with zero forensic experience, have superior knowledge and expertise to Dr. Nichols? Why have you denied your racist and homophobic attitudes that are clearly and repeatedly demonstrated in your statements and actions?
Why????

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

Just something incidental. You claim Professor Coleman is your friend. Where has Professor Coleman ever claimed you as a friend. Where has Professor Coleman actually publicly said something like, SIDNEY HARR is my friend?


I consider James Coleman to be a friend of mine... yes. Whether or not he considers me to be his friend is a question you need to bring before him.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"Correction... a blood alcohol of 296 mg/dL would render a non-alcoholic adult male stuporous. His alcoholism, enable Daye to function at a level which would have incapacitated a vast majority of men."

Wrong. Even in a chronic alcoholic, a blood alcohol that high would have rendered the victim non functional.


Your statement contradicts the facts of the case.
Fact # 1: Daye had a blood alcohol of 296 mg/dL.
Fact #2: Daye was functional, walking around and talking coherently even after being stabbed in the torso.

Your statement is thereby proved to be faulty.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I consider James Coleman to be a friend of mine... yes. Whether or not he considers me to be his friend is a question you need to bring before him."

It seems to me you are presuming on the friendship of Professor Coleman. He probably does not know you from Adam.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

Your repeated use of red herrings and straw men shows you can not make a case for the innocence of Crystal.


The case for Crystal Mangum's innocence is in truth and the facts of the case. The Autopsy report of April 14, 2011 is flawed... full of bogus findings which are contradicted by the operative report and other medical record documents. The conclusion that Daye died secondary to complications of a stab wound are not supported, and prejudiced by the omission of Daye's impending bout of delirium tremens, omission of the botched intubation of Daye, and omission of the fact that Daye died after being electively removed from life support.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Your statement contradicts the facts of the case.
Fact # 1: Daye had a blood alcohol of 296 mg/dL.
Fact #2: Daye was functional, walking around and talking coherently even after being stabbed in the torso.

Your statement is thereby proved to be faulty."

No it hasn't.What is faulty is your knowledge of what happened, derived as it was from proven non credible witness Crystal Mangum.

If Reginald Daye was functional, it is likely the finding of a blood alcohol of 296 was a lab error.

If he did have a blood alcohol of 296, he would have been incapacitated.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I consider James Coleman to be a friend of mine... yes. Whether or not he considers me to be his friend is a question you need to bring before him."

It seems to me you are presuming on the friendship of Professor Coleman. He probably does not know you from Adam.


He knew me well enough to intercede with the security guard on my behalf and prevent Duke campus police from arresting me.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The case for Crystal Mangum's innocence is in truth and the facts of the case."

Considering how you have distorted the facts of the case, you have shown you are incapable of determining the truth.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The Autopsy report of April 14, 2011 is flawed... full of bogus findings which are contradicted by the operative report and other medical record documents".

So say you. Are you willing to go to court and testify in behalf of Crystal as an expert witness? I think not. You would not want to expose yourself to cross examination which would demonstrate you are not qualified to make that statement with any authority.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"You forget. It is not I who lack credibility... it is the autopsy report of April 14, 2011 by Dr. Nichols."

Who besides you says the autopsy report of Dr. Nichols lacks credibility.

You again show you think you are above the law. You think your decision that the autopsy report lacks credibility trumps the court's authority.


When Dr. Christena Roberts presents her report about her evaluation of the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols, you will have another opinion in support of the fact that the autopsy report is bogus and flawed.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
How did sister get beat and choked for an hour without having any injuries consistent with that kind of attack?
Not going to trial, harr? Care to make a wager? The only way mangum is not going to trial is if she pleads to a lesser charge.
Wanna bet on it bro?


I do not make bets with anonymi for how can I collect my bet when I win?

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"The conclusion that Daye died secondary to complications of a stab wound are not supported, and prejudiced by the omission of Daye's impending bout of delirium tremens, omission of the botched intubation of Daye".

It is supported that Reginald Daye died as complications of medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound. The medical records you illegally posted show that Reginald Daye was not improperly intubated.

Again, I ask, why don't you testify in open court as an expert witness for Crystal? Probably because you can not establish yourself as any kind of expert in this matter.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"[T]he fact [is] that Daye died after being electively removed from life support."

Mr. Daye was removed from life support after he became brain dead as a result of complications of medical treatment necessitated by the stab wound.

Nifong Supporter said...


Hey, Intern.

I've been busy. Besides they're not much to see, and the copies of them do not make good images as the originals were made in pencil.

When I have a breather, I'll try to find the energy to post them. Believe me, it's no smoking pistol.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"He(Professor Coleman) knew me well enough to intercede with the security guard on my behalf and prevent Duke campus police from arresting me."

Professor Coleman might have taken pity on you. That is not enough for you to presume on his friendship. He apparently was not willing to testify on your behalf in your frivolous lawsuit against Duke.

What has happened to your appeal.

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
When are you going to post the contents of the 3 motions that Crystal wrote?


(Sorry, got a little confused in the previous response and left out the question. I'll repeat it now!)
I've been busy. Besides they're not much to see, and the copies of them do not make good images as the originals were made in pencil.

When I have a breather, I'll try to find the energy to post them. Believe me, it's no smoking pistol.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"When Dr. Christena Roberts presents her report about her evaluation of the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols, you will have another opinion in support of the fact that the autopsy report is bogus and flawed."

Christena Roberts would have to establish her credentials as an expert for her report to have any significance. Her credentials, compared to Dr. Nichols, are minimal. Besides, she is a hired gun, rendering an opinion in return for a fee.

It is a situation similar to someone testifying for a prosecutor in return for a lighter sentence.

The prosecution could get independent confirmation of the validity of Dr. Nichols' report. Can Woody Vann get anyone to confirm Christena Roberts' opinion, should it disagree with Dr. Nichols' opinion.

Your endorsements of Christena Roberts means nothing. You don't have the credentials to support whatever opinion she might have.

Besides, you are not willing to testify in behalf of Crystal for fear of being exposed as a questionably competent physician.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I do not make bets with anonymi for how can I collect my bet when I win?"

Another example of your hypocrisy.

Some time ago you offered to pay off anyone who could prove a certain point about Mrs. Rae Evans, who did not instigate the non existent carpetbagger jihad you imagine.

The payment was contingent on the family of Brittany Willis paying James Arthur Johnson a reward. You knew the family of Brittany Willis was not going to pay off James Arthur Johnson.

So you had no intention of paying anyone.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I've been busy. Besides they're not much to see, and the copies of them do not make good images as the originals were made in pencil.

When I have a breather, I'll try to find the energy to post them. Believe me, it's no smoking pistol."

No one would believe you about anything.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"

I consider James Coleman to be a friend of mine... yes. Whether or not he considers me to be his friend is a question you need to bring before him."

As usual, SIDNEY, you are ducking the question.

Anonymous said...

Sidney Harr us a liar. We all know it.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

You beat a rather hasty retreat from the Library today.

Anonymous said...

We all kow you are lying, harr.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Your so called friendship with Professor Coleman is another instance in which you misrepresent the facts.

Anonymous said...

here are just a few of the many questions you refuse to answer.
1. no evidence of beating or choking...how can you claim it happened with no evidence
2. why do you continue to lie about daye's criminal record
3. why didn't mangum make a partial payment with the first check she got from daye....she had it a week
4. why didn't mangum run to the nearest apartment door and bang on it for help/ why run to her aunt's house
5. why do you claim there was improper medical care at duke when the record shows no such thing
6. how can you claim forensic expertise when you have none
7. why did you, twice, violate NC prohibitions against practicing law without a license
8. why did you run off Shella and thus put Mangum back in with Vann, who she rejected more than a year ago
9. why have you lied about calling professor coleman a close personal friend?

Lance the Intern said...

"
I've been busy. Besides they're not much to see, and the copies of them do not make good images as the originals were made in pencil.

When I have a breather, I'll try to find the energy to post them. Believe me, it's no smoking pistol."


You had no problems posting the Riccardo Darnell Jones motion. It appears to be hand-written as well.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"When Dr. Christena Roberts presents her report about her evaluation of the autopsy report by Dr. Nichols, you will have another opinion in support of the fact that the autopsy report is bogus and flawed."

Christena Roberts would have to establish her credentials as an expert for her report to have any significance. Her credentials, compared to Dr. Nichols, are minimal. Besides, she is a hired gun, rendering an opinion in return for a fee.

It is a situation similar to someone testifying for a prosecutor in return for a lighter sentence.

The prosecution could get independent confirmation of the validity of Dr. Nichols' report. Can Woody Vann get anyone to confirm Christena Roberts' opinion, should it disagree with Dr. Nichols' opinion.

Your endorsements of Christena Roberts means nothing. You don't have the credentials to support whatever opinion she might have.

Besides, you are not willing to testify in behalf of Crystal for fear of being exposed as a questionably competent physician.


If I'm called to testify, I would be more than happy to do so... however, that hypothetical will not happen as the case against Mangum doesn't pass the smell test and will not take place.

Furthermore, it doesn't take a medical expert to conclude that the autopsy report of April 14, 2011 - upon which the murder charge is based - is fraudulent... just a reading and comprehension level of a sixth grader and command of the English language. That's all it takes to determine that the findings and conclusion of Dr. Nichols' report is false.

Nifong Supporter said...


Anonymous said...
SIDNEY HARR:

"I do not make bets with anonymi for how can I collect my bet when I win?"

Another example of your hypocrisy.

Some time ago you offered to pay off anyone who could prove a certain point about Mrs. Rae Evans, who did not instigate the non existent carpetbagger jihad you imagine.

The payment was contingent on the family of Brittany Willis paying James Arthur Johnson a reward. You knew the family of Brittany Willis was not going to pay off James Arthur Johnson.

So you had no intention of paying anyone.


The family of Brittany Willis should be grateful to James Arthur Johnson because he solved the tragic crimes against the young lady. He had absolutely nothing to do with the perpetration of the senseless crimes against Ms. Willis. Finally, he earned the reward by coming forward. Of the three people who were not involved in the crime but knew about it, the two who went to the police with information about it and led to the crimes being solved, both ended up arrested and spending time behind bars. The one person who did not go to the police was the only one not charged, not arrested, and not spending time in jail related to the crime.

The family should pay Johnson the reward, as promised, and I do not consider that they will continue to hold out forever, once a religious conscientiousness kicks in.

Nifong Supporter said...


Lance the Intern said...
"
I've been busy. Besides they're not much to see, and the copies of them do not make good images as the originals were made in pencil.

When I have a breather, I'll try to find the energy to post them. Believe me, it's no smoking pistol."

You had no problems posting the Riccardo Darnell Jones motion. It appears to be hand-written as well.


Intern, I don't recall if Riccardo Jones' motion was written in pencil or ink, as I received a copy of it from the Courthouse. I only know that its image printed out far better than the one by Mangum. I'll try to get it posted some time in the future.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"
The family of Brittany Willis should be grateful to James Arthur Johnson because he solved the tragic crimes against the young lady. He had absolutely nothing to do with the perpetration of the senseless crimes against Ms. Willis. Finally, he earned the reward by coming forward. Of the three people who were not involved in the crime but knew about it, the two who went to the police with information about it and led to the crimes being solved, both ended up arrested and spending time behind bars. The one person who did not go to the police was the only one not charged, not arrested, and not spending time in jail related to the crime.

The family should pay Johnson the reward, as promised, and I do not consider that they will continue to hold out forever, once a religious conscientiousness kicks in."

What do you know about religious conscientiousness. You invoke the man from Nazareth but you pursue a vendetta against innocent Caucasian(an innocuous term except to a blatant unrepentant racist) men because they were not wrongfully convicted of raping a black woman. The crime of which Crystal accused them never happened. That was documented by the evidence which corrupt DA NIFONG gathered in the case but was unwilling to share with the defense.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"If I'm called to testify, I would be more than happy to do so... however, that hypothetical will not happen as the case against Mangum doesn't pass the smell test and will not take place."

You have been saying that for well over a year and the charges against Crystal still stand, in spite of your interference which has compromised her defense.

"Furthermore, it doesn't take a medical expert to conclude that the autopsy report of April 14, 2011 - upon which the murder charge is based - is fraudulent... just a reading and comprehension level of a sixth grader and command of the English language. That's all it takes to determine that the findings and conclusion of Dr. Nichols' report is false."

So you admit you are not qualified to testify as an expert witness. Try telling that to the court that "it doesn't take a medical expert to conclude that the autopsy report of April 14, 2011...is fraudulent".

You again manifest your arrogance, your belief that you are above the law, that Crystal is above the law, that you can dictate to the court what is credible and what is not.

You show again, rather graphically this time, that you do not respect the law.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"Intern, I don't recall if Riccardo Jones' motion was written in pencil or ink, as I received a copy of it from the Courthouse. I only know that its image printed out far better than the one by Mangum. I'll try to get it posted some time in the future."

That seems like an excuse on your part not to publish Crystal's motions.

In any event, it shows your disrespect for the law when you demand that charges against Crystal be dropped because a convicted felon with a long rap sheet supports your view of the case against Crystal.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

You seem to again have beaten a hasty retreat from the library.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

Where is KENHYDERAL? Is he looking for more facts to distort and misrepresent?

Lance the Intern said...

I agree with you that someone with a 6th grade reading and comprehension level could come to an erroneous conclusion upon reading Dr. Nichol's autopsy report for Reginald Daye.

I'm surprised you'd admit it, however.

Anonymous said...

Good point lance. Harr continues to dodge and weave and hide and whine. Pathetic little man

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:


"The only thing Crystal Mangum took from Reginald Daye was a beating"

If that is so, explain why the ER did not record any findings consistent with a beating, why her mug shot(which is available on line but which you do not publish on your blog) showed no evidence of a beating.

Anonymous said...

BAHAHAHAHABAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Harr, you are a riot. Please do testify .......you and courageous vicky were made for each other.......the bigot twins,

Anonymous said...

Answer the question harr. A beating and choking? With no evidence of it? You and mangum are lying. The other explanation for what happened is far more plausible and consistent with the evidence.
Shame on you. We all knew you were racist. Now we know you lie.

Harr Supporter said...

Sidney:

Do you have any comment on the N&O interview with Crystal?

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/07/15/2196533/mangum-stabbing-was-self-defense.html

Her admission that she set the clothes on fire in connection with her 2010 arrest contradicts your explanation and her statements in her press conference.

She chased him out of the apartment with a step-ladder, she said, and was so angry she put his clothes in the bathtub and lit them on fire. She planned to put the fire out, she said, but the police arrived and handcuffed her.

Sidney, you have advanced Mangum's denial as fact and you have accused DPD Cpl. John Tyler of a felony.

Sidney, I do not accuse you of deliberately promoting a lie. You may simply be guilty of horrendous judgment in treating Mangum's statements as credible. You owe your readers an explanation.

Unless the N&O falsely attributed this statement to Mangum, she has once again been exposed as either delusional or a liar. Her admission and her denial cannot both be true.

Sidney, if Mangum is either delusional or a liar, why should anyone believe her claim of self-defense, unless there is substantial evidence to validate that claim? You owe an explanation of why Mangum retains any credibility.

Unless you prove that the N&O falsely attributed the statement to Mangum, you owe Cpl. Tyler an apology for each time you falsely accused him of a felony.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if SIDNEY HARR and his J4N gang are deluded enough to believe that putting Crystal's "defense" into the public record will get her acquitted.

He seemed to think he could make his case against Duke University by putting his allegations against Duke into the public record.

If so, SIDNEY it doesn't work that way.

Anonymous said...

Bleepin hilarious! I counted numerous contradictions to the Daye tale in the N-O. And the version harr tells now. This lady lies so damn much, she trips over her own mouth. And of course, we have harr prattling his own bucket of lies as well. Sister actually admitted to the arson charge that she got out of .......hilarious.
Cant wait for the trial....

Anonymous said...

Wives with knives???? Perfect...... Just perfect. Only problem......sister was, uh, shackin with daye......who was nice enough to take her in.....

Anonymous said...

So now we have mangum telling about her interview for the wives with knives episode and she says it didnt go so well and that she had to have more anxiety medication afterward. Google her up, talking about the interview. A riot!
Vann must be having a cow, with mangum contradicting herself all over the place on the record. This is too funny , folks.

Anonymous said...

Crystal Mangum:

"'All you have is people who weren’t there saying that something didn’t happen,' she said."

I guess she missed David Evans' press conference in which he said the allegations of rape were false. David Evans was there.

None of the party attendees who were there said anything happened, including Kim Pittman/Roberts.

Anonymous said...

Crystal Mangum:

“'All you have is people who weren’t there saying that something didn’t happen,' she said."

Maybe she is referring to Reade Seligman and Colin Finnerty.

She identified each of them with 100% certainty as one of her assailants. Each pleaded not guilty. Each could prove with 100% certainty he had not been present at the alleged crime scene when the alleged crime allegedly took place.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone want to speculate about how Woody Vann is feeling right now?

Crystal is alleging she is being prosecuted because she accused members of the Lacrosse team of raping her. To get that into evidence, he will have to put her on the stand.

That means, she will be subject to cross examination, which means the prosecution can confront her with all the inconsistencies in the phony rape case

Anonymous said...

Poor old woody........
"wives with knives". .......now that's entertainment!
Vann will have to prove self defense. How would he do that without putting the professional victim on the stand ? She is on record saying what a great guy daye was........but he turns rabid.......funny how this happens and she has his checks in her purse. And maybe the whole argument was over her failure to pay the rent and he wanted his checks back !! And now we have sista on record saying she did, in fact, set the clothes on fire........with her children in the apartment. Yep, harr, thats a realllly good mother for ya.

Anonymous said...

Harr and mangum apparently are not bright enough, together, to get the fundamental principle of justice in america........innocent till proven guilty in a court of law. The burden of proof is on the accuser, halfwits. Nifong had no proof , no case.....in fact, the evidence, the proof, was that no rape occured. The DA will have the same burden when mangum goes to trial.
For mangum to be saying today that she was raped that night is a clear indication of just weak minded, amoral, and utterly characterless she is. Please, for the love of pole vaulting, come rescue your BF and haul her overused fanny to canada, hissy boy. We will take up a collection and buy her a one way ticket straight to your neighborhood!

Anonymous said...

Crystal Mangum:

"'All you have is people who weren’t there saying that something didn’t happen,' she said."

One person who was not there who said she was not raped was the ER doctor who examined her in the ER. At least her exam showed no evidence of a physical assault, no evidence of s rape.

Anonymous said...

Crystal Mangum:

“'All you have is people who weren’t there saying that something didn’t happen,' she said."

There are people who were not there who said she was raped, e.g. Vincent Clark, DA NIFONG, Kilgo, KENHYDERAL.

Where is KENHYDERAL? Is he out searching for Kilgo's anonymous Lacrosse player friend?

Anonymous said...

Crystal Mangum:

"'All you have is people who weren’t there saying that something didn’t happen,' she said."

Another irony about this statement, regarding Colin Finnerty and Reade Seligman.

Crystal laments that "people who weren't there" do not believe her allegations of rape. Yet she sees nothing inappropriate about accusing "people who weren't there" of perpetrating the alleged rape.

Anonymous said...

More people who were not there but who believed Crystal was raped:

Tara Levicy, Wendy Murphy(ska the serial fabricator), Nancy Grace, Myra Kinderknecht(read her comments on the reviews of Crystal's book on Amazon). Victoria Peterson, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the North Carolina NAACP, the whole gang of 88.

None of the above are expressing much belief in Crystal now.

Nifong Supporter said...


Harr Supporter said...
Sidney:

Do you have any comment on the N&O interview with Crystal?

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/07/15/2196533/mangum-stabbing-was-self-defense.html

Her admission that she set the clothes on fire in connection with her 2010 arrest contradicts your explanation and her statements in her press conference.

She chased him out of the apartment with a step-ladder, she said, and was so angry she put his clothes in the bathtub and lit them on fire. She planned to put the fire out, she said, but the police arrived and handcuffed her.

Sidney, you have advanced Mangum's denial as fact and you have accused DPD Cpl. John Tyler of a felony.

Sidney, I do not accuse you of deliberately promoting a lie. You may simply be guilty of horrendous judgment in treating Mangum's statements as credible. You owe your readers an explanation.

Unless the N&O falsely attributed this statement to Mangum, she has once again been exposed as either delusional or a liar. Her admission and her denial cannot both be true.

Sidney, if Mangum is either delusional or a liar, why should anyone believe her claim of self-defense, unless there is substantial evidence to validate that claim? You owe an explanation of why Mangum retains any credibility.

Unless you prove that the N&O falsely attributed the statement to Mangum, you owe Cpl. Tyler an apology for each time you falsely accused him of a felony.


I will address this issue in an upcoming blog.

Presently I will prepare to post the formal complaint I filed with the NC Attorney General's Office against Durham prosecutors.

Lance the Intern said...

Sid in December, 2010: "I am of the opinion that the police, most likely Officer Tyler, started the fire in the bathtub, not Crystal or her ex-boyfriend..."

I assume you'll be posting a retraction and apologizing to the police force and Officer Tyler specifically for this comment now that Crystal has stated publicly that she started the fire in Milton Walker's apartment.

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

"I will address this issue in an upcoming blog.

Presently I will prepare to post the formal complaint I filed with the NC Attorney General's Office against Durham prosecutors."

Anonymous said...

SIDNEY HARR:

To my last comment I add, That complaint will be as efficacious as your frivolous lawsuit against Duke, which I realize you are appealing in a vain, useless attempt to establish the credibility you never had.